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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Ketty.

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and Gatty and he Armstrong and Getty.

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Speaker 3: Chipotle launched a collaboration today with the luggage company Base

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Speaker 3: to offer a forty eight dollars crossbody bag designed to

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Speaker 3: carry one of their burritos because your stomach.

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Speaker 4: Was not.

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Speaker 5: I know it was going to be something like that.

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Speaker 5: When I saw that luggage Chipotle is going to go

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Speaker 5: down that road, I was just aware of that.

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Speaker 2: We didn't need to talk about that.

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Speaker 5: Michigan football coach still don't quite understand what's going on there.

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Speaker 5: I mean, very very uncool. You're married with kids and

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Speaker 5: you're having an affair. They're at work, and I just

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Speaker 5: saw a thing that said it was a worst kept

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Speaker 5: secret at Michigan, like lots of people knew it. How'd

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Speaker 5: you end up arrested? You don't get arrested for that. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: there are plenty of clues.

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Speaker 1: I think I know what went on, and it's pretty ugly,

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Speaker 1: but we'll get to that in a little bit. I

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Speaker 1: want to preface this conversation by saying, and I wish

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Speaker 1: I could remember the headline. I was getting ready for

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Speaker 1: the show today, just plowing through all sorts of different stuff,

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Speaker 1: and I came across a couple of stories. One of

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Speaker 1: them had to do with reforming college campuses. The other one,

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Speaker 1: as I recall, had something to do with enforcing actual

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Speaker 1: civil rights, ending racism by ending racism, not by promoting

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Speaker 1: more racism. And I thought to myself, only Donald J.

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Speaker 1: Trump and his administration to have the balls to do

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Speaker 1: this would take on the media and the entrenched activist

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Speaker 1: class and the Democratic Party and call you know, call

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Speaker 1: reality what it is. And I thought, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: hate losing this. And I hope whoever succeeds Trump and

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Speaker 1: the Republican Party can keep the momentum going anyway, you know.

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Speaker 1: And the border has closed it and I'm just so

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Speaker 1: grateful for a lot of the good things that have

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Speaker 1: happened during the Trump administration. But as I've told Jack

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Speaker 1: both on the air and off the air, I have

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Speaker 1: a gut feeling honed over many years of watching this

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Speaker 1: stuff that this is a ship that is heading for

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Speaker 1: the rocks. It does not have the feeling of something

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Speaker 1: coming together. It has the feeling of something falling apart. Well,

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Speaker 1: and we got three full years left, and the standard

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Speaker 1: lane duckery of the last two years in office, the

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Speaker 1: midterm elections frequently makes it really tough for a president

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Speaker 1: to be productive. And that's not Donald Jay's faults. It's

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Speaker 1: just the system, right, It's just the way the cookie.

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Speaker 2: Tends to crumble.

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Speaker 1: But if you look at both some of the numbers

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Speaker 1: and some of the trends that are unmistakable. Peggy Nowtan

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Speaker 1: is absolutely fantastic writing for the Journal, cites a couple

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Speaker 1: of polls. You know, we've all heard that the approval

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Speaker 1: rating on economic matters for Trump is down substantially, because

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Speaker 1: that was always his bedrock. His approval on immigration numbers

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Speaker 1: are down substantially, and then she points out that look

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Speaker 1: a year into the term, every president gets on people's nerves.

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Speaker 1: You disappoint your fans a little because you over promise

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Speaker 1: during the campaign everybody else, and you're infuriating your foes.

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Speaker 1: Be goes, well, they're your foes, so that's to be expected.

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Speaker 1: But then she gets to the Marjorie Taylor Green thing

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Speaker 1: breaking away from Trump on the Epstein files, among other things.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, it's we're thrown in I think

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Speaker 1: Marjorie Taylor Green's a nut. I think she's wrong about

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Speaker 1: most things.

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Speaker 2: Well, and she's said some crazyes in her career.

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Speaker 1: Right, So this is not pitching one side or the other,

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Speaker 1: is right, We're just watching the football game and analyzing

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Speaker 1: how the players are playing. But then Peggy Noonan points

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Speaker 1: out that once someone makes a jail break, though, who

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Speaker 1: defies Trump comes out right against him. And wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: the world didn't turn on her and attack her, and

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Speaker 1: the entire Republican Party and the MAGA world are not

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Speaker 1: savaging her. In fact, a lot of people are saying, wait,

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Speaker 1: she made the jail break, I got my own issues.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to break out too. This changes the conversation

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Speaker 1: in the prison yard. Guards are eyed differently, the warden's

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Speaker 1: mystique is diminished, and so she writes about that a

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Speaker 2: When Trump is erratic, Well, do you think they think

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Speaker 2: that's fair to start with?

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Speaker 5: Because they asked that question when I didn't watch the

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Speaker 5: whole MTG interview on sixty minutes. Man, you want to

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Speaker 5: become rich, be a conservative. That then turns on the

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Speaker 5: Republican Party or the sitting Republican president. Guaranteed wealth because

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Speaker 5: the mainstream media will embrace you and you get to

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Speaker 5: be Joe Scarborough or who's the other chick that's on

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Speaker 5: There was a speech writer for Bush and turned against

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Speaker 5: all everything Republican.

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Speaker 2: She's on later, But man, that's a guarantee. You just

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Speaker 5: And Marjorie Taylor Green's trying to kind of get in

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Speaker 5: that treatment right now. I don't know how far she's

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Speaker 5: willing to go. But so Leslie Stall in sixty minutes

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Speaker 5: kept trying to portray her as like Trump won, you

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Speaker 5: had to resign.

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Speaker 2: She's not a bad angle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she doesn't see it that way, but yeah, she's

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Speaker 1: not wrong. Leslie Stall is not wrong. Annoying, but not wrong.

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Speaker 1: You know, as long as we're talking MTG here she

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Speaker 1: is talking to a super genius, Wolf Blitzer on CNN.

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Speaker 2: Of the Day. You got that, Michael.

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Speaker 6: President Trump posted yesterday that you are quote and I'm

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Speaker 6: quoting him now, not America First or MAGA and your

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Speaker 6: quote new views are those of a very dumb person.

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Speaker 6: That's the President of the United States speaking about your

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Speaker 6: speaking about you. What's your response to these latest attacks.

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Speaker 7: Well, actually, Wolf, I feel very sorry for President Trump,

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Speaker 7: I genuinely do. It has to be a hard place

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Speaker 7: for someone that is constantly so hateful and puts so

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Speaker 7: much vitriol, name calling, and really tells lies about people

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Speaker 7: in order to try to get his way or win

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Speaker 7: some kind of fight. And I think that's exactly what's

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Speaker 7: wrong in America today. That's what's wrong in this toxic

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Speaker 7: political environment that has ripped our country apart. And I

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Speaker 7: personally think that that's poor leadership from a president, you know.

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Speaker 5: While so the mainstream media is now treating her the

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Speaker 5: way they're treating her, despite the fact that they used

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Speaker 5: to beat her up for the fact that she thought

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Speaker 5: nine to eleven was an inside job, no plane hit,

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Speaker 5: the Pentagon space lasers funded by the Jews, were linked

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Speaker 5: to Democrats, and a number of other things that she

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Speaker 5: used to get beaten up with. But so turns on Trump,

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Speaker 5: She's a hero.

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Speaker 1: So Peggy Noonan talks about Trump's hate stoking and is

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Speaker 1: you know, making really strong accusations and how that's more

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Speaker 1: dangerous because we're in a dark time and Peggy's very

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Speaker 1: much a traditionalist. But when you've got Peggy Noonan and

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Speaker 1: MTG both agreeing that, look all the vitriol, all the insults,

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Speaker 2: It's just not helpful.

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Speaker 1: And then Peggy moves on to the affordability as a

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Speaker 1: democratic hoax while he's building the giant ballroom. I don't

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Speaker 1: think many people actually care about the ballroom, but.

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Speaker 2: It just doesn't have a good feel.

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Speaker 1: But with AI and inflation in the air, people are scared,

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Speaker 1: and the administration doesn't seem like it understands that. It's

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Speaker 1: not acting like it understands that. So I thought that

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Speaker 2: It's funny.

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Speaker 1: The Free Press sent one of their reporters to MTG's

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Speaker 1: the reddest district in Georgia. And that's like the reddest

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Speaker 1: apple or the reddest firetruck. That's friggin' red folks. That's

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Speaker 1: really really red. And it's interesting. A lot of voters,

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Speaker 1: many many of all but one she talked to, had said,

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Speaker 1: I'm done with Trump.

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Speaker 2: MTG is right. I'm not MAGA.

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Speaker 1: I'm America first, and Trump isn't America first anymore. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's funny about this. And again, this is not rooting

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Speaker 1: with like everybody quoted in this article about what America's

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Speaker 1: foreign policy ought to be.

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Speaker 2: I think they're wrong.

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Speaker 1: I think they have a very oversimplified new to politics angry.

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Speaker 1: Why are we wasting money on Furner's point of view?

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Speaker 1: That's just not realistic. So it's not like I agree

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Speaker 1: with MTG in her people, but it's undeniably something that's happening.

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Speaker 1: The Hispanic vote, which famously switched over to Trump up

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Speaker 1: and the Republicans, appears to have gone now according to

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Speaker 1: a lot of polls, things are changing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a lot of that.

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Speaker 5: I think it can all come down to prices, and

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Speaker 5: you know, mock the word affordability all you want, but

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Speaker 5: that all kinds of punditry was done around why various

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Speaker 5: groups moved toward Trump, and he famously grew his vote

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Speaker 5: in every single county in the entire America, in the

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Speaker 2: But like two, I think.

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Speaker 5: It was almost like entirely about things are too expensive,

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Speaker 5: and it wasn't all these other issues that they tried

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Speaker 1: I would throw immigration into that delicious sandwich, but because

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Speaker 1: that was such an egregious and horrifying problem.

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Speaker 2: But and you know it's funny.

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Speaker 1: I Trump's greatest gift is that he is disdainful of

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Speaker 1: his critics, because a lot of his critics deserved nothing

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Speaker 1: but disdain. His greatest weakness is that he's disdainful of

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Speaker 1: He's lost a lot of support on the immigration thing

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Speaker 1: think it's because, as usual with Trump, he went twenty

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Speaker 1: illegal human crowd. Those people are idiots and Marxists, and

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Speaker 1: I don't you know, they're wrong, They're just completely wrong.

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Speaker 2: But the crowd's saying, look.

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Speaker 1: Let's keep it narrowly to the criminals and the guy

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Speaker 2: That's going to erode support.

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Speaker 1: Let's go gentle on him, Let's figure out what to

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Speaker 2: He was disdainful of that too. Well, these next couple

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Speaker 1: going to be a pretty unhappy populous if inflation continues.

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Speaker 7: And everyone knows that.

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Speaker 5: I agree with you, Joe, Joe, you met her, right,

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Speaker 5: got your picture taken with her?

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Speaker 7: Yes, that was quite entertaining.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: Well, you're on the same plane or went on a

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Speaker 5: date or I don't remember what the story is. We're

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Speaker 5: at the same gate in an airport and you approached her,

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Speaker 5: she approached you. Why would she approach me because you're

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Speaker 5: a radio star?

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Speaker 1: Oh right, uh uh no, I just yeah, it was Hey,

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Speaker 1: how are you mind if I say, oh, of course,

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Speaker 1: I have about a click. I should have engaged her

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Speaker 1: more conversation, but there are a bunch of people wanting

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Speaker 1: to talk to her, and I just I'm not that guy.

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Speaker 5: I don't you know monopolies. How'd she look in person

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Speaker 5: compared to on TV smaller? She's bad built, bush body?

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Speaker 1: In response, and I apologize because there's a lady present.

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Speaker 5: Let's not delay. Let's just get this over with. The

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Speaker 5: Well, Trump, I go to Europe to talk to European leaders.

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Speaker 1: At the same time, though, the deal as it seems

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Speaker 2: This is crazy. I just this is a unique.

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Speaker 1: Situation in that the arbitrator is the only one who's

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Speaker 5: Well that's yesterday's war. Nobody's interested in that anymore. Back

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Speaker 1: Well, Trump is saying that the Europeans aren't, are they.

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Speaker 2: It's your continent.

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Speaker 5: You may have no money left because of our general

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Speaker 5: as wealtha of state you.

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Speaker 2: Take that's the lead.

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Speaker 5: That would be awesome if we're just hey, we're way

442
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Speaker 5: over here. What do we have to do with it? Well,

443
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Speaker 5: fun NATO, but we got nothing to do with it. It's

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Speaker 5: your continent. But that's not the way it works. It's

445
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Speaker 5: about whether Trump agrees or not, because you all are

446
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Speaker 5: just a bunch.

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Speaker 2: Of I was gonna say a bad word. Oh my.

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Speaker 5: I wonder if Putin has the slightest desire to have

449
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Speaker 5: this come to an end. I mean even the slightest.

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Speaker 5: He might not have the slightest desire to come for it.

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Speaker 5: It's possible that he's like, man, this has cost a

452
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Speaker 5: lot of people and a lot of money and everything

453
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Speaker 5: like that, and I'm not sure it turned out the

454
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Speaker 5: way I wanted to. So if I could get you know,

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Speaker 5: that chunk of donetskin and blah blah bah all this stories.

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Speaker 2: But he might not have any interesting stopping like zero.

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Speaker 2: That's the question.

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Speaker 1: Is put In looking for an off ramp, even a

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Speaker 1: good one, or does he have the utter nomination of

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Speaker 1: Ukraine in mind and any agreement he comes to will

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Speaker 1: just be a stepping stone toward that goal. That's the question.

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Speaker 1: I happen to believe it's the latter. The second choice.

463
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Speaker 1: He needs to dominate all of Ukraine because of his

464
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Speaker 1: Tsarist wishes to restore the Russian Republic in one reading.

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Speaker 1: The other reading is the Russia has long been paranoid

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Speaker 1: about its security, especially coming from that direction from the West,

467
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Speaker 1: because they have no natural barriers blah blah blah, and

468
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Speaker 1: they need a buffer zone. And so yes, he needs

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Speaker 1: to have a pretty good control of Ukraine. Either way

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Speaker 1: you look at it. I think that's his goal. He's

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Speaker 1: unless he gets that. He's a megalomaniac who spends human

472
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Speaker 1: lives like I spend dimes. He doesn't want enough ram

473
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Speaker 1: he doesn't need it.

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Speaker 5: Different article in the Wall Street Journal, in which they're

475
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Speaker 5: quoting Trump behind the scenes, is saying Ukraine's losing the war.

476
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Speaker 5: It's only going to get worse. The Wall Street Journal

477
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Speaker 5: opinion was Russia after nearly four years of war, by

478
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Speaker 5: which time the Soviet Union in World War Two had

479
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Speaker 5: fended off a German invasion and seized Berlin. And so

480
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Speaker 5: it's a long time to do a lot of stuff

481
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Speaker 5: militarily is far from taking the eastern Dunetsk province, a

482
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Speaker 5: target since its first invasion of Ukraine in twenty fourteen,

483
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Speaker 5: in other words, their main target.

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Speaker 2: After four years of war and.

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Speaker 5: Expending a million people, they haven't been able to pull

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Speaker 5: it off.

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Speaker 1: So what do you mean Ukraine's losing well? In Ukraine's

488
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Speaker 1: commanders are saying, no, we're not. They make incremental Greek gains,

489
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Speaker 1: but then we just take them back again, or they,

490
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Speaker 1: you know, take some little town. It makes a lot

491
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Speaker 1: of news, but it's fine. They can have the town.

492
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Speaker 1: We're not giving ground in the important places.

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Speaker 5: So and I haven't come across this today. I heard

494
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Speaker 5: this on NPR this morning. I meant to google it

495
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Speaker 5: that Zelensky made some noises about being willing to put

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Speaker 5: it to a vote. You know, they haven't had any

497
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Speaker 5: elections in Ukraine during the war because it's really hard

498
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Speaker 5: to have elections during the war.

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Speaker 2: But he has said a constitution says you're not supposed to.

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Speaker 5: He said he'd be willing to put it to a

501
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Speaker 5: vote to the people whether or not they want to

502
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Speaker 5: accept this peace plan where we give up land and

503
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Speaker 5: limit the size of our army et cetera.

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Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, yeah, I think he has a pretty good

505
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Speaker 1: idea of how that vote would come out. Do you

506
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Speaker 1: think you think it would be overwhelmingly No, that's my

507
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 1: perception based on what I've heard, but I haven't heard recently.

508
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: I suspect he has a better idea and it may

509
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Speaker 1: be a message to Trump because and Donald J likes this.

510
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Speaker 1: Every single aspect of this goes through the lens of

511
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Speaker 1: Trump when Britain's talked, with a few exceptions, I guess,

512
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Speaker 1: but Zelensky is trying to talk to Trump through that poll,

513
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Speaker 1: I think, or that vote rather, you know, the Russians

514
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Speaker 1: are talking through Trump to Zelensky.

515
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Speaker 2: And it's just I don't know.

516
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Speaker 1: It's you don't have two parties interested in making a deal,

517
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Speaker 1: and to the extent that they're kind of sort of

518
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Speaker 1: maybe you know, theoretically interested in making a deal. They're

519
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: major if this is there's no way we're making a deal.

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Speaker 1: They all stand both sides. This is I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I can't imagine the emotional mental toll this has taken

522
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Speaker 5: on Zelenski.

523
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Speaker 2: Four years coming up in February.

524
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Speaker 5: All the other world leaders are different now than when

525
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,239
Speaker 5: it started. He's still the same guy dealing with this

526
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 5: like right at his doorstep literally could lose his life

527
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 5: on a daily basis.

528
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Speaker 2: That God, that'd be tiring. I can't even imagine happier news.

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Speaker 2: Yes what there was there more.

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559
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Speaker 5: then watch a Christmas movie. Last week we watched Home Alone.

560
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Speaker 5: I mean, it's gonna be a movie we've seen before

561
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Speaker 5: almost certainly. What's what's a good go to?

562
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Speaker 2: Michael? What's your go to?

563
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Speaker 1: You like?

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Speaker 2: Elfdy? Like elf?

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Speaker 5: Kids feel like they've seen it too many times? That

566
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Speaker 5: one we did run pretty hard into the.

567
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Speaker 2: Ground when they were younger. That's a good one.

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Speaker 5: And it's got Bob Newhart in it. What's not the

569
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Speaker 5: like Katie a big fan of Bad Santa. Bad Santa.

570
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 5: That's uh, Billy Bob Thorpe.

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Speaker 2: I like that one too. I don't know if I've

572
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Speaker 2: seen Bad Santa. Oh, it's so good.

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Speaker 5: Okay, well that's what we're doing tonight. Is that appropriate

574
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Speaker 5: for teens? King?

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Speaker 4: No?

576
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 2: Actually, ah, it's not. Probably a scene or two that

577
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 2: you always checked.

578
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 5: The common sense media thing before we watch movies. So

579
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 5: but yeah, because we started to watch what's the really

580
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Speaker 5: bloody one?

581
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: Oh Night Violin? Good God, I saw that, so it

582
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: it's so unnecessary.

583
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 5: God, So it makes Quentin Tarantino seem like you're watching,

584
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 5: you know, the fifties production of Oklahoma.

585
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: Oh, what's the sequel going to be called? Deck the

586
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: Halls with the Bowels of Holly. I mean, that's just disgusting.

587
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 5: I feel like you weren't really wondering about a sequel,

588
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 5: You just wanted to get that play on words.

589
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Speaker 1: And oh, speaking of ugly things happening, did you hear

590
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: the the Nobel Prize winning lady from Venezuela is Maschado

591
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: Maria Mushado almost died in her escape.

592
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 2: No, oh, the untold story is now the told story.

593
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Speaker 5: Cool Deck the Bowels, so he said, no, you got

594
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Speaker 5: all that on the way.

595
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Speaker 2: Stay here.

596
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 5: China just unveiled their giant giant transport plane, or we

597
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 5: just saw it for the first time that can transport

598
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 5: gazillions of drones anywhere they want to in the world.

599
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 5: They could just fly this giant plane over and release

600
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Speaker 5: all these drones.

601
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 2: Wow.

602
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: Wow, those those big giant cargo planes amaze me. Yeah,

603
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: I think they probably amaze everybody. And I assume China is.

604
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: I assume China's is extra insanely large. And you know

605
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: what if that big weather balloon had had a whole

606
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: bunch of drones in it that we let fly clear

607
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:11,959
Speaker 1: across the country under Biden, unbelievable, What a moment that was. So,

608
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: you know, it's funny. I've remarked a number of times

609
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Speaker 1: that most people are in jobs they'd never heard of

610
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: as a kid. Very few of us grow up to

611
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: be cowboys or hockey players or whatever. And also that

612
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: you know, there are very very few kids that would say.

613
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Speaker 2: When I grow up, I want to be an insurance broker.

614
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: Though being an insurance broker is a honorable and fine

615
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: way to make a living in sport your family, more

616
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: kids need to want to grow up to be extraction specialists.

617
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Speaker 2: What is that? The story of how it sounds like

618
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: a dentist, doesn't it?

619
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Speaker 1: The way they got Maria Machado out of Venezuela and

620
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: to Europe is a story. It's the sort of thing

621
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Speaker 1: they make an adventure movie out of, and people like it,

622
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: like the well I Am the Captain now movie.

623
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Speaker 2: You know, it's got that field to it.

624
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 5: She's the opposition leader of Nobel Peace Prize winner.

625
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: Indeed, yes, who made her way to Norway. So Brian

626
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Speaker 1: Stern is kind of the star of this story. He's

627
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: a bearded US combat veteran. He makes his living doing

628
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: clandestine extractions from hostile countries and war zones.

629
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Speaker 2: Well, that would not be a boring job.

630
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Speaker 1: WHOA If we need somebody out of a very very

631
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Speaker 1: dangerous place, Brian and his company, they go get him.

632
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: And he was in charge of linking up with Ms

633
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,959
Speaker 1: Maschado and her couple of people who are in country

634
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: who are smuggling her out. And we'd mentioned to you

635
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: that she and her small crew were going bad out

636
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: of Hell style across the Caribbean Sea during heavy winds

637
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Speaker 1: and high seas.

638
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm going out in a boat

639
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 2: on the sea off of Ven's Way. I just don't

640
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 2: know if that's a good idea.

641
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Speaker 1: Well, they'd called our military, they had, you know, Brian

642
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: and company were coordinating all this and said, hey, if

643
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: you see a red boat going real fast, it's your girl, Maria.

644
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 2: Please don't be blasting it.

645
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: But anyway, so evidently the sea was so violent their

646
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: GPS transmitter got bucked overboard, but they.

647
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: Had a backup, but the backup.

648
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: Didn't more so, can you imagine, so Operation Golden Dynamite

649
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: reference to Alfred Nobel, Swedish chemist invented dynamite.

650
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 2: Eta was looking very, very bad.

651
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Speaker 1: She failed to come to the liaison point, and Brian Stern,

652
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: the guy we're talking about, and others were.

653
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 2: Like, oh boy, here we go.

654
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: And they had to find her out in the ocean.

655
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: Now it's not the Pacific Ocean, but it's it's a

656
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Speaker 1: big enough area. And they finally did find her, floating around,

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Speaker 1: not sure where they were and where to go, but

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Speaker 1: it took hours.

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Speaker 2: Wow, glad she didn't die out there. So, uh, this

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Speaker 2: is so interesting. Do we have a minute.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Extracting Mashada would entail moving an instantly recognizable person,

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00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: Venezuela's iconic opposition later who was in hiding? Uh just

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Speaker 1: when everyone expects her to be on the move, everyone

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Speaker 1: knows her face, turn said, moving Maria's like moving Hillary Clinton.

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Speaker 1: They planned at least nine possible scenarios, from air or

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Speaker 1: helicopter rescues to taking her out through Guiana or Colombia.

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Speaker 2: I have a front loader.

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Speaker 1: Wo.

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Speaker 2: Wow? Is that a shot at h'll wow?

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Speaker 1: Anyway, Stern said his team planted false rumors to keep

671
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Speaker 1: the world looking for her in the wrong places. Some

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00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: tales put her in Europe, others in a car headed

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Speaker 1: for Colombia. Another that she had sneaked out of the

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Speaker 1: country aboard a US flight that had dropped off deporties

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Speaker 1: from Venezuela. So part of this guy's gig is intelligence

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Speaker 1: and counter intelligence to lay the groundwork for what they

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Speaker 1: do inside and outside Venezuela. People were falling closely debated

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Speaker 1: whether the Maduro regime had infiltrating her movement, was letting

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Speaker 1: her leave or not. Bobba Stern says, no, we didn't

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Speaker 1: get any help from the Venezuelans whatsoever. So she left

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Speaker 1: her heide out in a wig and a disguise, made

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Speaker 1: her way through ten military checkpoints and.

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Speaker 2: Onto the sea.

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Speaker 5: While she was in a disguise with a wig, went

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Speaker 5: through ten military checkpoints that had to be nerve wracking.

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Speaker 1: So you got the guys at the beach. She finally

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Speaker 1: gets there and they say, yeah, good news is we're

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00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: here with the boat. Bad news is we got some

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Speaker 1: pretty serious mechanical issues. They had chosen intentionally run down

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Speaker 1: fishing boat, so it just didn't look like something anybody

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Speaker 1: would ever use for that sort of thing. Well, for

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00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,479
Speaker 1: good reason. Fixing the engine problem caused a twelve dout

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Speaker 1: hour delay. They left as the sun was setting instead

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Speaker 1: of one it was rising. Once at sea, the open

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Speaker 1: boat face waves up to ten feet that led one

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Speaker 1: of the crew members to vomit overboard for much of

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Speaker 1: the journey. Oh heck, I've been on whale watches where

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Speaker 1: people vomited over the railing most of the journey anyway,

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Speaker 1: So it ended up being a hairy, hairy operation. But

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Speaker 1: they finally got her.

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Speaker 5: I am surprised that it was that precarious for her.

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Speaker 5: I just said, God, Maduro would be making such a

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00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 5: bad political move if he were to arrest her. Certainly

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Speaker 5: if he was to harmer or kill her. God, the

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00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 5: condemnation that would come down on him. I mean, he's

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Speaker 5: already in a bad situation. She would be a n

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Speaker 5: a Volney like character if she got arrested.

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Speaker 2: Well, you saw what happened with him. He ended up dead.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Putin's fine. That's actually an interesting question. What

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Speaker 1: would the calculus be within a totalitarian system like theirs?

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Speaker 1: If you know, they did dispatch her somehow. Anyway, She's okay,

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Speaker 1: made it to Euroupe.

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Speaker 2: What a life to live, to be in the extraction business.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that would capture your full attention.

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Speaker 1: You're rarely leaning back in your chair looking out the

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Speaker 1: window saying another day, same old crap.

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Speaker 5: Could I call him if I'm at a party and

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Speaker 5: I want to get out of a conversation. Does he

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Speaker 5: do stuff at that level? It'll cost you

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and getty