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Speaker 1: Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: In final hour Wednesday edition of the program, we're going

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Speaker 2: to be joined by Katie Miller. Had a great sit

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Speaker 2: down interview with Elon Musk, her boss for quite a

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Speaker 2: Trump two point zero.

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Speaker 1: We will discuss that with her.

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Speaker 2: Also Australia, many of you weighing in on the sixteen

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Speaker 2: and under social media ban. Breaking news during that last

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Speaker 2: commercial break, the Fed has cut the interest rate by

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Speaker 2: a quarter point nine to three vote, so it was

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Speaker 2: not unanimous, but the interest rates now have dropped to

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Speaker 2: a three point five to three point seventy five level

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Speaker 2: that is going to continue to bring borrowing cost back

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Speaker 2: down to some form of normalcy after the Biden craziness

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Speaker 2: with inflation and there is basically stock markets pretty much

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Speaker 2: even as this was expected to occur. We will update

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Speaker 2: you on anything relating to that going forward. But yet

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Speaker 2: another rate cut again three point five to three point

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Speaker 2: seventy five percent. We bring in now Katie Miller. She's

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Speaker 2: set down with Elon Musk. I believe that episode dropped yesterday.

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Speaker 2: It's receiving a great deal of attention. Katie, What can

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Speaker 2: you tell us about the interview? Also news with Elon.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we've talked about this. That SpaceX, one

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Speaker 2: of the many companies that he is involved in, may well,

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Speaker 2: according to Bloomberg, be going public this coming year in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six at a one point five trillion dollar valuation,

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Speaker 2: which would mean if that occurs, that Elon Musk would

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Speaker 2: basically become the first trillionaire in the history.

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Speaker 1: Of the world.

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Speaker 2: And so I'll start with that. What is Elon like?

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Speaker 2: What would surprise people about him? What did you find

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Speaker 2: your experience spending so much time around him to be like?

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Speaker 2: What should we know?

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me on, guys. Elon is a I

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Speaker 3: would say this if no one else knowing about him.

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Speaker 3: He is a truly great man who cares first and

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Speaker 3: foremost about fixing humanity. He is not showy about his wealth.

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Speaker 3: You would not know it if you've hung out with

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Speaker 3: him or spend time with him. How much money he

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Speaker 3: is truly worth, because he is one of the few

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Speaker 3: billionaires in which I've not come across during my time

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Speaker 3: the Trump administration who truly doesn't act or behave like it.

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Speaker 3: He huber eats like the rest of us, He sleeps

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Speaker 3: on couches, he stays in front houses. His house is

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Speaker 3: not grand or grandiose. He is just someone who's truly

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Speaker 3: passionate about saving humanity. And so through his time with

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Speaker 3: doche really believes in balancing the budget and that we

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Speaker 3: need to get costs under control. And when he found

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Speaker 3: out that dog was not the best way and time

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Speaker 3: of his myss to be doing so, he said, great,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to go do AI and robotics and create

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Speaker 3: companies that increase our country's GDP. And so when you

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Speaker 3: talk about SpaceX's valuation, which I don't know if they're

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Speaker 3: going public or not, I haven't heard any conversations like that,

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Speaker 3: but nor would I. But what I would say is

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of lays for Elon to become a chillionaire,

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Speaker 3: whether that be through robotics at Tesla, whether that be

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Speaker 3: currently donating to. And so when you're the first company

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Speaker 3: which is such a great internet if anyone's ever used it.

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Speaker 3: That he is truly a man who has never screened

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Speaker 3: an employee. If you go to any of his companies,

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Speaker 3: they're all mission driven. And it was an honor to

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Speaker 3: work for him. I still do work for him, and

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Speaker 3: overall I do wish him the best. It was an

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Speaker 1: Katie. It's bock to the degree you can having spent

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Speaker 1: time around him, Can you just try to lay out

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Speaker 1: for us why is it? What about him make him able?

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Speaker 1: What about Elon Musk puts him in this place where

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Speaker 1: he's able to do any one of these companies that

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Speaker 1: it almost seems superhuman. So what are the Elon x

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Speaker 1: factors as you've seen them? Why is he able to

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Speaker 3: I would make a joke and say his brain is computer.

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Speaker 3: His brain functions in a way that yours or mind

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Speaker 3: simply couldn't. The way he processes information, the way he

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Speaker 3: is a fascinating time to have a conversation with him,

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Speaker 3: is smarter than everybody else he comes in contact with.

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Speaker 3: But how he does this in his day, and he

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Speaker 3: thought process multiple times over Right, So if you're doing

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Speaker 2: He told you in the interview that in retrospect, he

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Speaker 1: He also talked with you about AI.

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Speaker 2: I know you've got young kids, and we'll get to

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Speaker 2: a question relating to kids in social media going forward.

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Speaker 2: But knowing Elon as you do, how optimistic are you

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Speaker 2: about his sort of analysis in retrospect that he wishes

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Speaker 3: I think Doge was done at a great expense to him,

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Speaker 3: to a short period of time that him as an

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Speaker 3: probably reach AGI advanced global intelligence by now and have

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Speaker 3: what you and I are thinking it could do. Right,

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Speaker 3: that's replacing so many of the functions of human life.

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Speaker 3: It's what Elon talks about me about the podcast when

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Speaker 3: like all day long. I can do much more complex

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Speaker 3: that's a lot less learning for our children. And also

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of abuses of it that are very scary.

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Speaker 1: Speaking to Katie Miller, she is the host of a

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Speaker 1: fantastic podcast which you should all go check out. It's

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Speaker 1: a pretty clear moment here, I think, Katie, for us

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Speaker 1: involves children and protecting children. This ban on those under

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Speaker 3: I haven't had this conversation with my husband or anyone

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Speaker 1: No doubt.

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Speaker 2: Katie Miller with us right now, Katie Miller Podcast. Just

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Speaker 2: talked with Elon Musk and had a great interview. You

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Speaker 2: the world we're in. We played earlier Erica Kirk, She's

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Speaker 3: It's incredibly sad. And I've had the conversation with Erica

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Speaker 3: very sad realization that just for speech, you can be

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Speaker 3: a grieving widow, and then there is of a CEO.

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Speaker 3: And it said privileged to watch her step into today,

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Speaker 3: watching her on Outnumbered, watching her step into that CEO

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Speaker 1: You know, Katie, this is taking you in a far

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Speaker 3: Now, they're typically all the really good movies that like

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Speaker 1: Thank you Katie.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back in Clay and Buck here. Okay,

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Speaker 4: New safety trigger finger is your safety? Six hour Pete

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Speaker 1: Monica from Lincoln, Nebraska. QQ hit it.

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Speaker 5: The Internet, I always say, is the wild wild West.

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Speaker 5: We have not tamed it, we have not contained it.

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Speaker 5: And just like the wild West, we had to have laws.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, but these kids shouldn't be out there.

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Speaker 1: Agreed. Agree Clay and I agree. All right, we're just

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We thank

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Speaker 2: with r are I don't think we've hit this one.

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Speaker 2: Enrique in Saint Louis. What you got for us?

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Speaker 1: Are are in this country?

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Speaker 6: You can be fifteen years old and meet a twenty

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Speaker 1: But I grew up in New York where it was seventeen,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Sacramento Radio SSU is fired up, says Rush Limbaugh

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Speaker 1: Let's listen, playing bug for more government regulation.

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Speaker 1: it's a government regulation that you can't vote until you're eighteen.

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Speaker 1: So should we just get rid of it and you

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Speaker 1: can vote when you're twelve? I mean. Not all government

440
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Speaker 1: regulation is like over regulation and it's bad. There are

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Speaker 1: some regulations that make sense and need to be in place,

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Speaker 1: and the protection of children, which is what we are

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Speaker 1: talking about, certainly seems to be a place where we

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Speaker 1: understand you have to draw lines. Would you say if

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Speaker 1: a nine year old decided that he or she wanted

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Speaker 1: to drive to downtown, would you say, oh, I can't

447
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Speaker 1: believe the government's regulating what age kid can drive. I

448
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Speaker 1: think most people would say no, there should be an

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Speaker 1: age limit now. Sometimes kids are ready to drive at sixteen,

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Speaker 1: other times they're not. Eighty seven percent of you on

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Speaker 1: Twitter agree with us that an age limit for social

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Speaker 1: media of sixteen actually makes sense. Government restricts when you

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Speaker 1: can smoke cigarettes, government restricts when you can drink beer.

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Speaker 1: Bet way, the car thing isn't really that's just an

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Speaker 1: insurance issue. The rental in the rental car issue, that's

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Speaker 1: just because the truth is young guys are far more

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Speaker 1: likely to get into car accidents and stuff. You get

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Speaker 1: a little bit older, you realize it's not worth going

459
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Speaker 1: play Travis Speed, for example, to get their thirty seconds

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Speaker 1: faster when you could be safe on the road no

461
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Speaker 1: problems going buck style right at the speed limit. Nice,

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Speaker 1: Miss Daisy, all right, Miss Daisy.

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Speaker 2: Marlene in Sacramento wants away in Marlene fire away.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 7: I work in the emergency room of a big hospital

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Speaker 7: here in Sacramento. I'm a clinical social worker. The number

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Speaker 7: one reason I see children in the emergency room for

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Speaker 7: psychiatric problems is their suicidal And the reason they are

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Speaker 7: is because the parent has taken the phone away as

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Speaker 7: a consequence of a you know, of some issue. But

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Speaker 7: they're addicted to the phones. They live and die by

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Speaker 7: the phones. You take that thing away, they can't function sometimes.

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Speaker 1: So this is this is wild you're saying.

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Speaker 2: You're saying the number one reason you see people in

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Speaker 2: your job for suicidal ideation is that the phone has

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Speaker 2: been taken away.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, Martine got there.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, if I didn't hear her wrong, she

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Speaker 2: said that at a hospital, in an emergency room, the number

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Speaker 2: one thing she sees as kids behaving in a suicidal

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Speaker 2: fashion as their phone's being taken away. If that's true,

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Speaker 2: and I don't have any reason to discount her story,

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Speaker 2: I mean, isn't that a sign of how addicted kids

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Speaker 2: are to the question. I wanted to ask her the

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Speaker 2: question I want to ask her, and so if she comes,

487
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Speaker 2: calls back, or she just wants to answer this for

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Speaker 2: producer Greg on the phones, is are the kids saying

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Speaker 2: there suicidal as like a they're I mean, it's very extreme,

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Speaker 2: you don't do this, but you know they're essentially like

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Speaker 2: an extreme pouting. Or do they really seem psychiatrically at

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Speaker 2: risk of suicidal ideation because.

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Speaker 1: Their phone is no longer in their hands? I mean

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Speaker 1: is that those are different? Right? I mean you know

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Speaker 1: people say like the little kid will say to his parents,

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Speaker 1: if you don't do this, I'm gonna hold my breath. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: technically you could hold your breath then you could die,

498
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Speaker 1: but I mean, no one's gonna do that, right. The

499
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Speaker 1: kid always ends up breathing. Are these kids in there

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Speaker 1: because they're saying, if you don't give me back my phone,

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Speaker 1: you know they're threatening self harm as a way of

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Speaker 1: getting the phone back, or they actually so psychiatrically compromed.

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Speaker 1: Do you see what I mean?

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Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, no, I think also when I hear

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Speaker 2: this threat, it immediately makes me think of what they've

506
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Speaker 2: tried to do with trans issues. They say, would you

507
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Speaker 2: rather have a dead daughter or a living son, right

508
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Speaker 2: to try to emotionally blackmail parents into allowing their minor

509
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Speaker 2: children to have sex reassignment surgeries, and all these different

510
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Speaker 2: things that are frankly should not be attributable to minors.

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Speaker 2: I'll give you another example, Buck. I bet our caller

512
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Speaker 2: who was saying, hey, Russia's rolling over his grave, I

513
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Speaker 2: think he was also in Sacramento. I bet he wouldn't

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Speaker 2: think that kids under the age of eighteen should be

515
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Speaker 2: able to have genital mutilation surgery. That's a government action

516
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Speaker 2: saying we're trying to protect minors. I would argue one

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Speaker 2: of the most important roles of government in all of

518
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Speaker 2: society is protecting children from poor choices and or predators

519
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Speaker 2: that would otherwise take advantage of them. I might argue

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Speaker 2: with you that is the single most important thing that

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Speaker 2: government does for children.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting. I just I check this. I

523
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Speaker 1: want to make sure the minimum age to join the

524
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Speaker 1: military is actually seventeen, but you need parental consent, But

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Speaker 1: you can join the military at seventeen. I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of people just assume it's eighteen. You can sign

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Speaker 1: present eighteen.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if that's a function of graduation because some

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Speaker 2: kids graduate from high school at seventeen.

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Speaker 1: You could join the Marine Corps at seventeen. You can

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Speaker 1: do that is that is a real thing, but your

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Speaker 1: parents have to sign off on it. So that's where

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Speaker 1: that parental guardian consent part comes in. But I just

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Speaker 1: I think that's fascinating.

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Speaker 2: I know that, But I mean, don't you agree with

536
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Speaker 2: me that maybe the most important thing government can do

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Speaker 2: is protect kids? Like I don't understand the argument of

538
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Speaker 2: we shouldn't have government regulations for kids. I think kids

539
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Speaker 2: one hundred billion percent. If we're going to have government

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Speaker 2: regulations for anybody, it should be for children to make

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Speaker 2: sure that they're protected. I mean, do you think that

542
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Speaker 2: having fences around pools, for instance, is probably a good idea?

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Speaker 2: I do buy and large. When we start off in

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Speaker 2: law school, Buck, one of the things you learn about

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Speaker 2: legally liability is attractive nuisance. You know, things that draw kids,

546
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Speaker 2: attractions that can lead to death or disfigurement on your property,

547
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Speaker 2: and your responsibility to try and protect that from kids.

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Speaker 2: I mean, one of the foundational elements of governmental responsibility

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Speaker 2: since the United States has existed as a country is

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Speaker 2: laws that are designed to protect, protect minors. So I

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Speaker 2: just it's a really bad argument to me to call

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Speaker 2: in and say we shouldn't be doing things that we

553
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Speaker 2: think protect minors. Now, if you want to argue that

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Speaker 2: sixteen year olds or whatever age it is, should have

555
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Speaker 2: unfettered access to the Internet, I mean you can make

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Speaker 2: that argument that they're going to have to learn it

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Speaker 2: at some point in time, that you need to not

558
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Speaker 2: have a security blanket. That's a different argument.

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, Well there's different There's there should be

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Speaker 1: no age restriction on Internet stuff at all, because like regulations,

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Speaker 1: I think that's too simplistic and kind of an honestly

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Speaker 1: absurd and approach. Then there's the well, you know, eighteen

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Speaker 1: for access to meaning you view it right, eighteen as

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Speaker 1: you said in Tennessee, to be able to view adult

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Speaker 1: pornographic material. Sixteen to be on social media. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: if maybe some people could say no, no, no, I

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Speaker 1: think by fourteen or fifteen you could be able to

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Speaker 1: be on Facebook. Maybe there's some restrictions that Facebook has

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Speaker 1: to put in place. That's a discussion, fine, but I

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Speaker 1: think it's clear there has to mean you should not

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Speaker 1: have ten year olds just roaming social media sites and

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Speaker 1: seeing what happens. It's not a good idea, you know

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Speaker 1: what's actually scary. And this is a part of this too.

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of minor accounts run by parents

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Speaker 1: that are subscribed to overwhelmingly by men. Dance dance pageant

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Speaker 1: moms like all this stuff. There's a big article about it,

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Speaker 1: I think in the New York Times, to their credit,

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Speaker 1: there is so much toxicity out there. A lot of

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Speaker 1: parents aren't doing the job. I just I think bad

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Speaker 1: demonic people out there. Yeah, dudes. And it's one thing.

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Speaker 1: You know, if the demon wants to come into my house,

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Speaker 1: I know how to handle that. But if the demon

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Speaker 1: is trying to get to your kids via the Internet,

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Speaker 1: and maybe he is overseas somewhere or whatever, you know,

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Speaker 1: this is where the government protected it. The same way

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Speaker 1: you can't protect yourself of North Korea invades. You actually

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Speaker 1: need government to, you know, to have a military response

588
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Speaker 1: to this. I think the government's protecting kids from these

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Speaker 1: online predators, especially because it's a global problem, makes a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of sense to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, the reason why I love this response

592
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Speaker 2: in particular is because most kids respond by saying every

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Speaker 2: other kid is doing it, and if you have a

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Speaker 2: universal law, then parents can say, well, that's not legal.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's a little bit like curfew. Right.

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Speaker 2: If every other kid doesn't have a curfew, it gets

597
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Speaker 2: harder and harder to enforce it for your own self.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: And look, we have restricted it. This is one of

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Speaker 2: the things we got right. We didn't give our kids

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Speaker 2: phones until they were fourteen. My kids have told us

602
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Speaker 2: that for years they were the only kid in school

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Speaker 2: that didn't have a phone, the only kid on the

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Speaker 2: soccer team, football team, baseball team.

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Speaker 1: Is right, I'm going to follow in your footsteps on

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Speaker 1: this one. By the way, I've thought ever since you

607
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Speaker 1: said that that you and Laura got this one totally

608
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Speaker 1: totally right, and that this is you need to have oversight,

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Speaker 1: certainly on the phones until fourteen or fifteen.

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Speaker 2: I think it's the right call, and I think increasingly

611
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Speaker 2: social media. This is my theory. I think it's going

612
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Speaker 2: to be seen as the cigarettes of our era. Everybody

613
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Speaker 2: likes to think that they will never have super unhealthy

614
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Speaker 2: choices that they were making in their life. You look

615
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 2: back at people and you say, oh, my goodness, how

616
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Speaker 2: in the world did they smoke cigarettes on the airplane?

617
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Speaker 2: How in the world did they do all these things

618
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Speaker 2: that we later find out, Why were they lancing people

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Speaker 2: who were sick and taking their blood and thinking that

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Speaker 2: that was going to make I think that we are

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Speaker 2: going to look at social media and the fact that

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Speaker 2: it was on our phones and our pockets and people

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Speaker 2: were on it all the time as one of the

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Speaker 2: most deletarious to public health choices that people voluntarily made

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Speaker 2: in any of our lives. And I think the longer

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Speaker 2: we can keep kids from using it regularly, the better

627
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Speaker 2: off they're likely to be.

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Speaker 1: You know what else is deleterious to public health? Clay

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Speaker 1: excessive speeding, mister Redfoot. All right, I'm just saying over

630
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Speaker 1: all the time. By the way, I got a speeding

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Speaker 1: ticket the other day. I'd gone like five years without

632
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Speaker 1: a speeding ticket. I got pulled over in Florida. You

633
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Speaker 1: know what I tried to do, buck, I tried to

634
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Speaker 1: shake the hand of the officer. I was like, sorry,

635
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Speaker 1: you know it, stuck my hand out the window. He's like, sir,

636
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Speaker 1: I can't touch you. I didn't know that was a rule.

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Speaker 2: But so anyway, I got a speeding ticket in the

638
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Speaker 2: middle of nowhere, Florida, coming back from the Florida State

639
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Speaker 2: Miami game.

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Speaker 1: Must not have been a Valls fan? What can I

641
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Speaker 1: tell you? All right? But he was a fan, no surprise.

642
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Speaker 2: to say tumultuous, going back to the Mom Donnie issue.

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Speaker 2: Let's see what he has to say.

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Speaker 2: Christmas music comes around like for like twenty five days

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Speaker 2: out of three hundred and sixty four days.

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Speaker 1: Want a dumb take too much Christmas?

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Speaker 4: Get shut up?

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Speaker 1: New York City not doing well? Yeah, lucky, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that his math was great there, But

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Speaker 2: but he's from New York, you know, and people aren't

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Speaker 2: great at math there. Stephen from you got a Stephen

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Speaker 4: CEC, you're a mean one, Lay Trevis, you really are?

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Speaker 1: He? I think you got you one voice. I'm not

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Speaker 1: think he's got some some pipes.

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Speaker 2: More than one. Oh wait, CC one, he doubled up.

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Speaker 2: Let's try CEC one. Is that the one we got?

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Speaker 2: I don't know audio was Grint's light there to close

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Speaker 2: up the final segment. I don't know what happened on

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Speaker 2: the Christmas music or anything else.

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Speaker 1: So play is going to be out tomorrow. Hopefully he's

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Speaker 1: gonna show up with shoes because he did his radio

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Speaker 1: show today. He left his shoes at home. How did

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Speaker 1: you do that? I drove.

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Speaker 2: I like to drive in flip flops or barefoot, and

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Speaker 2: I had my shoes by the door. And then when

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Speaker 2: I we out here in Birmingham for the event tonight,

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Speaker 2: I realized I only have flip flops. So I've got

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Speaker 2: to go to a shoe store now to go find

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Speaker 2: shoes somewhere so I can wear them, so I don't

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Speaker 2: show up shoeless for the speech tonight.

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Speaker 1: So Nick from Raleigh, see what I mean, buddy, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Buck Island, where we don't drive without shoes on.

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Speaker 1: What is this? What are you? The barbarians? Shoeless driving madness?

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Speaker 1: At least I'm not going twenty miles an hour.