WEBVTT - CLASSIC: The Nunavut Ping 0:00:03.080 --> 0:00:04.720 Okay, felly conspiracy realist. 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:06.680 Here we are at the end door of the beginning 0:00:06.840 --> 0:00:11.479 of a year and our classic episode this evening takes 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:15.400 us to the most northern part of Canada that you 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:20.160 can get to now, something that wasn't even a thing 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:22.200 until nineteen ninety nine. 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:23.200 That's right, none of it. 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:26.280 And this really fits in with some conversations we've been 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:30.280 having recently about mysterious sounds things that have come up 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:34.840 in our Strange news segments, the idea of the windsor hum. 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:39.000 This one is the nineve ping. Not a hum, but 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:39.400 a ping. 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:40.479 Oh. 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:43.560 Yes, it's been around for quite a long time. Remember 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:46.680 in twenty sixteen were we had heard about this, but 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:50.600 I don't think we covered it until twenty twenty because 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:54.800 there were I believe there were some new pieces of 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:56.200 information that came out about it. 0:00:56.960 --> 0:01:02.560 Yeah, yeah, that's correct. This was an unexplained sound emerging 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:07.920 from deep beneath the waves, terrifying migratory animals, baffling local 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:12.040 hunters who know that land very well, and everybody got 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:16.240 so confused, perplexed, and frightened by this that the Canadian 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:19.160 government launched an official investigation. 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:20.920 Here's what they found. 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:25.880 From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:30.280 riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:33.319 learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:35.119 production of Iheartradiu. 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:47.080 Hello, welcome back to the show. 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:49.240 My name is Matt, my name is Nola. 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:52.040 They call me Ben. We are joined as always with 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:56.560 our super producer, all Michig Control decads. Most importantly, you 0:01:56.680 --> 0:02:00.400 are you. You are here, and that makes this stuff 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:04.559 they don't want you to know. Today's episode starts off 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:10.079 with something that's understandably a problem for many people. Strange noises. 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:14.519 We don't mean smacking, snoring, the squeak of styrophoam or 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:16.639 all those other demons of misophonia. 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:19.400 Don't know how about heavy breathing, guys. 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:22.240 People accuse me online of heavy breathing a lot, and 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:24.200 it's really made me self conscious to the point where 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:25.959 I lean away from the microphone really hard. 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:27.160 So thanks a lot, Internet. 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:32.320 So we're talking about something much less annoying, and we're 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:35.600 talking about something much more mysterious, or so some would 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:39.760 have us believe. Longtime listeners, fellow conspiracy realist, you've been 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:43.760 with us as we explored the story of the windsor hum, 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:46.720 which by the way, will be solved in this episode 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:50.040 as well as the story of the infamous Bloop. But 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:54.720 this mysterious noise occurs in the far North, in an 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:57.800 isolated part of the world, home to more animals than 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:01.840 people the local population and is apparently being haunted by 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:05.959 a bizarre well. Some would describe it as a hum, 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:10.120 some would describe it as a beep. Today it's best 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:14.160 known as the Nunavut ping. Here are the facts. 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:16.200 So first off, let's do a little geography. 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:21.960 Nunavut is in Canada, right, but where it's north really north, 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:25.160 about as far north as you can possibly go. The 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:30.120 area encompasses most of the Canadian Arctic Archipelago, and this 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:31.400 is Polar Bear Country. 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:33.000 Nunavut is the. 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:38.040 Largest and northernmost territory of Canada and the fifth largest 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:42.840 administrative division in the entire world. In fact, Nunavut alone 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:48.280 represents about twenty one percent of the entire area of Canada, 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:51.960 which is interesting considering how few people actually live there. 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:55.280 It's really strange to look at on something like Google 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:59.880 Earth or in another digital based globe just to see 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:03.960 essentially that ring, the Arctic ring around the North Pole. 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:06.800 There it's you're right up at the top. And this 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:09.720 whole area we're talking about here, Nunavut, it's a little 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:14.160 over two million kilometers in total area. That's around eight 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:16.880 hundred thousand square miles a little more than that, and 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:20.279 according to the latest numbers, it has a total population 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:23.080 of around thirty six thousand people. 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:28.760 Yeah, this one, this one gave gave me a weird 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:33.440 rabbit hole, Matt. The population's thirty five, nine hundred and 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:37.080 forty four as of the twenty sixteen census, and that 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:40.040 number still seems to hold about the same in twenty nineteen. 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:44.599 So I was looking for an easy comparison. You know, 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:48.440 what's maybe a more well known city or town that 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:54.360 has a comparable population. So I started looking at cities 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:57.960 in the US that have a population maybe around there. 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:01.120 I couldn't find any. So I started looking at smaller 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:04.320 and smaller and smaller places, and I stumbled on the 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:07.720 closest comparison I can find, which is Goose Creek City, 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:11.520 South Carolina, with a population of thirty five thousand, nine 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:15.599 hundred and thirty eight. So, residents of Goose Creek City, 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:16.560 shout out to. 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:21.279 You, yeah, shut shout out to Mount Pleasant and Bulls 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:23.800 Bay as well, which are right right down the street 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:24.120 from you. 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:28.000 Do you get there? Do you know about a creek city? 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:31.880 Yeah, dude, I'm all about some Goose Creek just from here. 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:34.640 You can you got to get to ninety five, but 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:36.960 head on up that way and then you can head 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:38.920 head east right over to Goose Creek. 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:39.560 Mint. 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:41.160 I'm just looking at a. 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:43.039 Map, Okay, okay. 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:45.880 I would have loved the idea of Matt having like 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:48.640 long lost family in Goose Creek that he's just now 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:50.920 like discovering on the air in real time. 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:54.560 Yes, as Nols said, please tell us your Goose Creek 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:59.440 City stories. Unlike the residents of Goose Creek City, the 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:04.479 residents of this territory are overwhelmingly Inuit, about eighty five 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:05.600 percent of the population. 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:07.600 This territory is. 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:13.280 Also incredibly new. It was officially created in nineteen ninety nine. 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:18.640 Before that, it was part of the pre existing Northwest Territories. Now, 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:22.039 if you want to go and counter the great outdoors 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:25.159 in this part of the world, you're going to need 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:31.240 to prepare. This is not an especially welcoming environment. It's 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:37.440 mostly composed of rocky, treeless tundra that's locked in permafrost. 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:42.200 The Arctic, as we know, is experiencing climate change, specifically 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:45.440 warming of the climate at a faster rate than a 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:47.679 lot of other parts of the world, and this also 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:53.560 affects Nunavut. Changes there include higher temperatures which melts the permafrost, 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:57.280 which reduces the ice, and the sea which causes the 0:06:57.320 --> 0:07:02.200 glaciers to diminish and retreat and diminishes the ice shelves 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:04.719 tale as old as time. We all know this pattern, 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:07.840 but it's also home to a mystery. And that's our 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:11.160 question today. Have you heard of the Nunavut ping? 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:13.560 And just another thing to point out here is just 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:17.080 how difficult it is to get to Nunavut from a 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:20.200 lot of other places or nearly anywhere else in the world, 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:24.400 considering where it is on the Earth, and how cold 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:26.640 it is, how much ice you're dealing with in the 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:30.680 lack of standard transportation or a very little standard transportation. 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:31.280 Yeah. 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:34.440 I actually when I was looking up researching for this episode, 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:38.760 I came across a YouTuber by the name of Olivia Young, who, 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:41.920 along with her husband at the time of the video, 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:44.960 which is in twenty eighteen, it just moved to ecollow it, 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:47.800 which is the capital city of Nunavut. 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:49.680 And she made two very helpful videos, one of which 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:52.000 was ten reasons you should move to a Call of 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:54.520 It and ten reasons you should not move to a 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:55.000 call It. 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:57.520 Not that she was trying to force anybody one way 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:00.560 or the other, but the reasons you should things like 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:04.480 we're talking about the gorgeous natural scenery, the hunting, the 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:08.200 camping opportunities, and just kind of the adventure of it. 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:10.120 All the reasons you shouldn't. 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:12.840 Apparently, cost of living is one of the highest in 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:15.960 all of Canada there largely because it is so remote. 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:18.680 There aren't very many chain things, so there's kind of 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:21.720 a monopoly on you know, goods and services on this 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:24.520 very remote, hard to get to place. And she was saying, 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:27.000 I guess they're talking about Canadian bucks. But it was 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:29.760 like around eighteen hundred dollars for a flight, like a 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:33.240 three hour flight from Call of It to I believe 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:35.680 Manitoba believes with theirs. 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:37.880 I can't quite remember where they would go home to 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:38.600 hang with. 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:42.079 Their folks, but apparently very very prohibitively expensive to fly 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:44.640 out of there, and not many flights go there, so 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:48.160 it's kind of a monopoly there too. Also commented on 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:50.439 the Internet being particularly slow, but then you pointed out 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:52.160 that they seem to have fixed that. 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:56.520 Yeah, yeah, And this is something this kind of inaccessibility 0:08:56.600 --> 0:09:00.320 is something that's very familiar to people who live in 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:04.520 areas of the world like this, but perhaps sounds strange 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:10.240 to people not acquainted with these environments. You know, there's 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:15.480 a reason, for instance, that department stores in Alaska tend 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:17.920 to do a little bit better than department stores in 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:22.600 the rest of the contiguous United States. That's because some 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:25.960 places just don't deliver. You know, you can't order something 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:30.120 online if it means that someone from Amazon or something 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:33.880 has to fly out on a small Cessna plane to 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:36.880 get you, you know, your dunk a Ruse or whatever 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:39.280 you're ordering. I imagine it's dunk a Ruse. 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:40.200 It's gotta be. 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:45.440 Yeah, just speaking to that. Shout out to the whoever 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:49.120 is working at and running the Hall Beach Airport that's 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:52.800 out there and nearby. It's one of the only ones 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:54.640 that I was able to find or that was big 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:57.080 enough to actually land, like you said, as Cessna or something. 0:09:57.160 --> 0:10:01.680 Well, and apparently there's no specialty medical faci there. Doctors 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:04.480 actually come in on a weekly basis that the woman 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:06.360 I was talking about who had the YouTube video was 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:08.840 pregnant at the time and was talking about how to 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:11.920 see a specialist. She had to wait until that individual 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:14.640 was actually making the rounds, which would require flying in 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:16.720 on a little plane like you're talking about. And also 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:18.880 one of the reasons she said if you don't want 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:21.440 to move here is if you don't like online shopping, 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:24.600 because that's sort of mainly where you're going to find 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:27.559 most of your options because there's really no chain department 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:30.160 stores or malls or walmarts or anything like that to 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:30.560 speak of. 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:33.960 So, as you can tell from that very high level look, 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:37.960 life here is very different than life in many other 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:43.000 parts of the world. Nunavut is home to a stunning 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:49.040 and rich history of indigenous culture, tradition, and practices, right 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:52.360 including hunting, which plays a big role in today's show. 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:56.880 This area is also home to a mystery. It's one 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:58.840 that a lot of people outside of the region have 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:03.680 not heard of. Have you heard of the Nunavut ping. 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:09.840 Here's where it gets crazy, because you see, this area 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:13.720 of the world is home to more than breathtaking natural 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:18.120 beauty and astonishing ancient culture. It's also home to something 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:20.959 that is most often I should say allegedly home to 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:26.320 something that is most often called a ping like ping like. 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:28.320 That sound of submarine makes right. 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:32.520 Maybe, well, it's it's interesting. It's been described a bunch 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:36.719 of different ways. Actually, sometimes it is that ping like 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:39.160 we just gave an example of. Sometimes it's more of 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:44.160 a m Sometimes it's a sound that you can't hear 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:48.280 unless you're recording. Sometimes it's a beep, more of a 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:50.760 bit like the ones that we make on this show 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:54.000 when we need to record something again that you go. 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:56.559 Behind the scenes. That's behind the scenes, Matt. That doesn't 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:59.280 make it to the final at a thank you, Mission Control. 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:02.959 Where's Michael Winslow when you need him? 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:04.640 I wish you had him as a guest right now. 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:06.760 He could do all of these sounds perfectly for us. 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:08.320 But I think you did a great job, Matt. 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:08.880 Well. 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:12.880 Thanks. So what you need to know is that there's 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:16.079 a specific area within this larger area that we've been 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:20.600 describing to you. It's called the Fury and Heckless Strait 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:23.920 of Nunavut. It's about one hundred and twenty kilometers or 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:26.560 seventy four miles from the small town of Igloic. 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:30.960 Yeah, and you were we were talking earlier off here, Matt, 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:34.840 you said that this is this is kind of the 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:40.400 closest point of human civilization that we can relate to this. 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:45.040 It's the Fury and Heckless Strait is sort of northwest 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:46.120 of this town. 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:51.320 Correct, correct. Yeah, and it's it's large, it's very open. 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:55.640 Many times, or in the past, I guess more frequently 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:59.199 in the past there would be ice floating in this area, 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:03.199 and not so much anymore, as you stated earlier, Ben, Yeah. 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:08.199 So this ping was first we could say, solidly confirmed 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:11.760 by a sailboat that was traveling through the strait back 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:14.800 in the summer of twenty sixteen. And the reason we 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:18.520 can say it was solidly confirmed is because the crew 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:20.959 of the boat and passengers on the boat were able 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:25.400 to register the sound with onboard sonar equipment. They weren't 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:28.120 looking for anything, they just had the sonar equipment for 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:33.440 the boat. Rumors had existed before this official confirmation. And 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:36.360 note to your earlier point, Matt, this is not the 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:40.079 same thing as recording the sound. They registered it, they 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:44.040 proved that it existed, but they didn't have an audio 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:48.520 file they could play for other people. The strait itself 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:50.920 is a word of the day. I don't know about 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:52.520 you all, but this I learned this word for the 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:56.160 first time. The strait is what is called a paulina. 0:13:56.240 --> 0:14:00.800 It's an area of open water that's surrounded by and 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:05.800 this is a cozy, cozy, perfect home for tons of 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:10.960 sea mammals. The sound itself, the ping or the hum or, 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:15.880 the can be heard throughout the summer. That's a big deal. Yeah, 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:19.240 there we go. That's a big deal because summer is 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:23.200 one of the major hunting seasons in this region, because 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:27.880 there is a typically historically there's a large number of 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:31.440 sea mammals that pass through this area, and so since 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:35.720 ancient days, when people are living there, they would harvest 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:39.360 these animals and use components of these animals throughout the 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:41.480 rest of the year for a multitude of things. 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:44.920 And if I'm not mistaken, you can find narwhals in 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:48.520 this region. The mythical yet perfectly real narwhal. 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:52.480 Yeah, God, guys, there a Arctic circle types the narwhal. 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:55.960 You know, they haven't quite yet franchised to the Caribbean, 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:59.120 but hey, the world's a changing place. Who knows, Maybe 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:01.800 we'll see a tropical Narwal. Draw us a picture of 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:04.720 what that looks like. Send it in conspiracy at iHeartRadio 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:05.320 dot com. 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:08.920 Probably just wearing a la and has like a tropical 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:11.280 drink of some kind. Narmals don't really have hands, though 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:13.080 it has. 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:16.320 It has like pineapples and stuff speared on the on 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:19.640 the whole, which is actually a great example left tooth 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:23.920 of the Narwal. Quite so weird it is, but the 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:27.160 ping is even weirder than an arwall, I would say, 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:30.000 because the sound can be heard throughout the summer. Multiple 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:33.600 people allegedly report it. Notice we had to drop the 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:36.200 allegedly on there. You'll find out why in a minute. 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:40.160 The booters who are aboard that private vessel passing through 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:42.960 the area, they said that they heard the sound. They 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:45.840 registered it on Sonart. They didn't have an audio recording, 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:49.560 but they went to a local radio show in Igloick 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:54.640 afterwards and they described their experience hearing the sound. And 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:59.280 when they described it, multiple people called into the radio 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:02.440 station to say, Hey, I've heard this too. 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:04.400 What gives just. 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:08.040 A quick thing to think about here. This incident occurred 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:13.440 in twenty sixteen, so you know, we can't know for sure, 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:16.200 but I assume that somebody on that private boat that 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:18.960 was traveling through the Strait had some kind of cellular 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:22.040 device that had recording capabilities on it, And it does 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:25.520 make me wonder why if they were hearing something as 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:29.120 strange as this sounds, they wouldn't begin rolling, similar to 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:32.280 if there's a UFO sighting or something, you'd want to 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:34.280 at least attempt to capture it. 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:35.880 It's a good point, Matt, but I think maybe we 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:39.720 take for granted sometimes how quick we are to pull 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:43.480 out stuff like that and record interesting sounds or videos. 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:45.040 Some people just don't think about it. 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:47.880 I think it's like second nature to us, I think, 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:49.720 since we're sort of tech eat nerd types. 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:51.720 But I don't know. It could go either way. It 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:52.360 is a little weird. 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:54.760 But I also know people that just never really occurs 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:57.000 to them, unless it's like snapping a picture to like 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:59.320 pull up the voice memo recorder. It is almost like 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:02.000 too many players of menu for some people on a phone. 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:03.840 I want to go back to what you said, Matt, 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:05.920 and I want to respond to you by saying ding 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:08.800 ding ding, or should I say ping ping ping, because 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:13.160 this is going to be important later in the story, right, 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:16.080 And I think your point holds know that it is 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:19.440 not normal or it's not you know, ubiquitous for everybody 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:21.800 to instantly take out a phone. As a matter of fact, 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:25.200 many of us listening along today when we have seen 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:28.320 something anomalous, perhaps in the sky or in the distance, 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:30.840 you know, it can be real pain to try to 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:34.360 get to your camera on your phone or your audio 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:38.119 recorder in time unless you've made it a habit and 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:42.160 normalized it. So with your point, Matt, I would say 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:45.000 one thing that alters, or I would say one thing 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:49.520 that influences the points we're making here, is that these 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:55.119 people were on a boat. They likely already had recording 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:59.479 equipment or communications equipment of some sort running, and we 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:02.679 don't without knowing how long their window of time was 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:05.159 hearing the ping, we don't know how much time they 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:07.520 had to respond. But it is interesting there was not 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:12.640 a recorded sound there. This acoustic anomaly. There's an important 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:16.760 part about it. It wasn't just affecting humans and hunters. 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:21.480 Locals had noticed that animals appear to hear this sound 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:25.720 as well, and they responded to it by turning tail 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:30.240 or turning fin or turning flipper and skiedaddling whatever this 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:34.240 sound was it seemed to frighten them. At least according 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:37.520 to initial reports, there were hardly any sea mammals in 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:40.560 the area during the summer of twenty fifteen, and that 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:44.560 became an issue of major concern to the local government. 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:48.600 Yeah, especially since when we're talking about tourism and even 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:52.400 like just locals, hunting is huge. So if your animals 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:55.240 are constantly getting spooked away by this sound, that's not 0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:58.440 going to go over well with the locals or with 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:01.520 tourists and the govern who are maybe thinking, oh, this 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:03.399 is a bumber. This is going to like make it 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:06.600 less attractive for people to come here. And you see 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:11.000 these these natural phenomenon are and perhaps you know, shoot them. 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:15.320 Yes, And to that end, we have a statement from 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:20.600 a legislative assemblyman from the area named George Kualute. He said, 0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:24.640 quote that passage is a migratory route for bowhead whales 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:28.399 and also bearded seals and ringed seals. There would be 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:32.680 so many in that particular area this summer there was none. 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:39.439 Which is amazing because usually these kind of declines step 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:45.359 down incrementally over time, right and over seasons. It's anomalous 0:19:45.400 --> 0:19:51.240 for an entire migratory population to change to disappear and 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:56.240 change route. So locals and visitors, humans and animals alike 0:19:56.520 --> 0:20:00.919 all seemed to know that something was happening, but no 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:04.600 one knew what, unless, of course we asked the animals, 0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:08.000 which no one really did. This means then the lack 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:13.080 of certitude, speculation thrives, and theories abound. What are we 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:23.840 talking about. We'll tell you afterword from our sponsor and 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:27.920 we have returned. We hope that everyone had an excellent 0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:32.520 commercial break. Maybe a few many adventures, we don't know 0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:35.520 tell us about them. But we had a discussion of 0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:39.280 our own during the break, and Matt, you brought up 0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:42.119 an important point that we need to hit before we 0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:43.840 dive into these theories dive in. 0:20:43.960 --> 0:20:48.320 Sorry guys, Oh we're really getting started in that realm ben. 0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:54.560 So just jumping back to that initial report that kind 0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:56.919 of broke this story back in twenty sixteen of the 0:20:57.040 --> 0:20:59.480 private boat and the people on board that went through 0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:04.400 and heard this ping with their sonar equipment, they they 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:09.000 at least stated they were able to discern that the 0:21:09.040 --> 0:21:13.840 sound appeared to be originating from the seafloor from below them, 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:19.119 way down at the bottom. And just keep that in 0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:23.560 mind as we're continuing down through these theories about what 0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:26.480 this sound could possibly be, and we have. 0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:31.160 A we have a couple of broad categories of theories 0:21:31.520 --> 0:21:37.840 with with very i would say, differing levels of plausibility. Right, 0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:41.680 So we start maybe if you guys, if you guys 0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:46.080 are into this, we can start with the very mundane 0:21:46.119 --> 0:21:49.080 one and the reason why it's very mundane, and then 0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:53.880 we can move progressively to some more conspiratorial stuff. The 0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:57.840 first theory centers on an outfit called the baffin Land 0:21:58.080 --> 0:22:04.439 Iron Minds Corporation. They had earlier conducted sonar surveys on 0:22:04.680 --> 0:22:10.119 a nearby Endlet steams by Endlet. This theory that a 0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:15.040 corporation in the mining industry could be responsible for this 0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:18.679 sound does have some sand, but not because of the 0:22:18.720 --> 0:22:24.840 mining corporation itself. Here, it's increasingly plausible because of recent 0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:30.800 revelations about the Windsor Hum, which we explored in previous episode. 0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:34.280 Rarely get to say this, this one has been proven. 0:22:34.359 --> 0:22:37.760 We can put this one to bed. Probably in that 0:22:37.880 --> 0:22:42.439 previous episode on the Windswor Hum, we examined this mysterious 0:22:42.480 --> 0:22:47.200 sound on the Canadian US border. Since about twenty eleven, 0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:51.359 people in Windsor Ontario and the area were reporting a weird, 0:22:51.520 --> 0:22:54.520 weird hum. Nobody knew what it was. Some people were 0:22:54.560 --> 0:23:00.359 saying secret government plans, usos UFOs, extra dimensional stuff, all 0:23:00.400 --> 0:23:03.560 the exciting stuff, all the hits, all the jazz. But 0:23:04.000 --> 0:23:08.800 just a few days before we recorded this episode, the 0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:11.880 announcement the news came on July twenty seventh. We're recording 0:23:11.880 --> 0:23:14.679 this On July twenty ninth, one of our theories from 0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:19.119 windsor hum was proven correct. The US Steel facility on 0:23:19.280 --> 0:23:23.480 Zug Island went into idle mode as the company scaled 0:23:23.520 --> 0:23:28.439 back operations across its Great Lakes facilities. And according to 0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:31.040 a guy named Colin Novak, who we may have cited 0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:34.800 in that episode, he's the lead researcher for the Canadian 0:23:34.880 --> 0:23:38.360