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Speaker 1: you know, to be sitting with a true diva as

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Speaker 1: We were going to ask you about that because, like

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Speaker 1: You know, it's they always think of diva like that.

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Speaker 1: And I was getting ready to say the green fingernails

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Speaker 1: a performer. When it is well written, and when you

424
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Speaker 1: know that's your role, they jump up off of that

425
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: page and into you. Their voice comes to you, the

426
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: way they walk, the way they talk. I mean, look

427
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 1: at me playing Barbara Howard. It is that I'm playing

428
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 1: a very different woman than myself. Yes there's a kernel

429
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 1: of me in her, but she's different. The way she

430
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: comports herself, the way she speaks, her voice is deeper,

431
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,719
Speaker 1: you know, the way she talks to people, you know,

432
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 1: the way she holds herself, her love of so many pearls.

433
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: You know, Oh my goodness. You know when you look

434
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 1: at me as d Mitchell in Molitia, another different woman,

435
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: when you look at me as um Nicki's lover in

436
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: Ray Donovan Happy Saint Patrick's Day, Um Ray Donovan, that

437
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: completely different woman, thank you, thank you. That was a

438
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: woman who swung on a pole. You know, that's a

439
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 1: whole different vibe. But all of them came up off

440
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: the page and said, you got me and I got you.

441
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: You're such a performer. Even when she's telling me stories

442
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 1: like I feel like yeah, because I feel like I

443
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: was at the party just but it gives me like

444
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: it gives me like, you know, like that Mike Tyson

445
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: had his one man you know show where he sat

446
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: and he yeah, I definitely couldn't you definitely see yourself

447
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 1: doing something like that just coming you have this book,

448
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 1: like could you can tell a story and you are

449
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 1: a Broadway just would you ever imagine doing something like that?

450
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: I was just asked by a producer if I would

451
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 1: consider coming to Broadway to do a one woman show

452
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: for a limited run. And my first action was hell, no,

453
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: I don't want to work that hard right now. But

454
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: the more I think about it, you know, as time

455
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: passes and I can you know, fit it into my schedule,

456
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: it's seeming more like hell, yeah, yeah, yeah, we've see that.

457
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: Because you know, I also feel like, even now, not

458
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 1: enough black people go see Broadway plays, and that's a

459
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: dog on shame. Yeah, because so many shows that we

460
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 1: should see. You should see the Michael Jackson just for

461
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: that talented young amazing mouth for us. Yeah, you should

462
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 1: see Miles for us. You should go and experience the

463
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: harder they come at the public theater to go to that.

464
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,239
Speaker 1: Tina Turner, you should Tina Turner. You know, there's so

465
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: many things that you we should see. But there seems

466
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 1: to be a problem with the Broadway community in not

467
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: knowing how to market to the black community. For whatever reason.

468
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: For forty five years that I know about, they have

469
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 1: had a problem reaching out to communities of color. Yeah,

470
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do about that, because I

471
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: want to go see for Color Girls on Broadway and

472
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: it came and went, Yes it do and I felt

473
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: like it wasn't properly marketed. It was not, you know,

474
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: but it was amazing. Yeah, it would you see thoughts

475
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: of a Colored Man. No, I didn't see that. That

476
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: one was another one. We got killed by m covid.

477
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: I was a producer on that. And then there was

478
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: the Ohio State Murders with Audra McDonald, a wonderful story

479
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 1: that a lot of people missed that should have seen.

480
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: I was a producer on that as well. But there's

481
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: so much out there. That's something I definitely want to

482
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: highlight more. Is going to see going to the theater, Yes,

483
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: because it is like the perfect I want to go

484
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: see The Black Odyssey on opening night and that's in

485
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: a play on Thirteenth Streets. So I went there to

486
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: go see that. But I enjoy going to the theater

487
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: so much your phone is away, you know, just like

488
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: going to the movies. And I think it's just another

489
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: level of of like the fact that it's a one

490
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: take things. You know, you go out there and cut.

491
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: There's no cut. Yeah, there's no Can I try that again? No,

492
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: you have to know your lines because everybody else is

493
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: depending upon you, and I can't tell, like if somebody

494
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: messed up a line, you know, to be able to

495
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: keep going so that we don't even know. That's a

496
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: whole another type of skill to have. I was doing

497
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: a show called Thoroughly Modern Millie on Broadway, and I

498
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: had this monologue about my green glass love and this

499
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: particular night, My god, what happens? I couldn't remember see

500
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: the hat happened? Remember, And I was talking about bottles

501
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: of green glass and green this and green. It would

502
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: have been perfect forum Saint Patrick's death. But I was

503
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: just lost the second time, the first time that happened

504
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: to me though, I was doing dream Girls, and um,

505
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: I remember it was one night only you won't oh

506
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: my love and my devotion, all of that honey. After

507
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: that blank blank, and I remember hearing the stage manager

508
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: say her MIC's dead. The on stage manager said her

509
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: brain is dead, And at that moment I realized it

510
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: might be time to take a long vacation and possibly

511
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: move on. And that's exactly what I did. Yeah, well,

512
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: that was a sign listen to your body. I listened

513
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: to all of it. I listened to the vibes. I

514
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: listened to the signs, all of that stuff. It's there.

515
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: All we have to do sometimes is listen, because you

516
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: know it's speaking to us. But sometimes we want to

517
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: listen to something else. You have to listen to your gut.

518
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: You have to listen to your own self. You have

519
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: to accept your own vibrations because they're there for you

520
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: to receive an answer. What was your first bag investment?

521
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: My first big myself? Yeah, my first big investment was

522
00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: in myself. I and that investment and in myself has

523
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: paid off. It is paid has paid off in the

524
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: way I look it is. It is paid off in

525
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: the way I've been able to raise my children. It

526
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,959
Speaker 1: has paid off in the way I've been able to

527
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: stay married to my second husband, Senator Vincent Hughes of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia.

528
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: In particular, it has paid off in the ways that

529
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: I've been able to build my brand, build my business,

530
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: you know, and uh as a Delta you know. You

531
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: know when we go to our conventions, your convention, my convention.

532
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: You know, everybody has something to sell. And I would

533
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: do these T shirts and the T shirts. I mean

534
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: there were times when I needed to sell some T

535
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: shirts and they got me over so much. We will

536
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: buy some apparel. Baby, I'm to this day to a

537
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: Delta event without guys. I'm telling because we will buy,

538
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: you know, building upon that. You know. Now my kids

539
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: have taken it over with their nonprofit Walk Good La

540
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: and you know, their merch and things, and my son

541
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: put out there, you know, the graphic of me and

542
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: this is what believing looks like. People bought the bags,

543
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: they bought the sweatshirts, they bought the T shirts, all

544
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: of that stuff. You know, it adds up. You know.

545
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: I was crazy about red lipstick, you know, and I

546
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: did the reds and people bought the lipsticks really good

547
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: lipstick too, you know. And I like to give people quality.

548
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: But I've learned this one thing. I always felt that

549
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: if I could give you the best for the least

550
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: amount of money, you would want it. That's not the case.

551
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: People like to pay. They want to pay. Yeah, people

552
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: think the more expensive it is the better. Yeah, that's it.

553
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: So now my days the lower price guilty because sometimes

554
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: I'm looking for stuff and I'm like, which my should

555
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: I get? I'm like, well this is cost a little more,

556
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: it's probably better. See the quality they got me. That's it.

557
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: What about being a doubts at and a sority, what

558
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: has that done for you? I don't have sisters, and

559
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: now I have the thousands of sisters, and it is

560
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: wonderful from me, and I'm sure you feel like this

561
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: with your soul wars. It is wonderful for me to

562
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: walk into a room of women who are one happy

563
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: to see you, two welcoming you with open arms, and

564
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: three want to tell you what's going on with them

565
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: and want to hear what's going on with you. And

566
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: that to me is absolutely magic. So I love also

567
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: the attention to scholarship, that education is important, the attention

568
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: to community, attention to the people in the community, and

569
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: now we're having a new shift to an attention towards self,

570
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: that your health and well being really matters. I just

571
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: love all of that. No, I'm mental health. I got

572
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: my green juice right here, Come on now and one

573
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: thing I wanted to ask you about in the book,

574
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: and you kind of you didn't get into detail about it.

575
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 1: You talk about the Me Too movement and you even

576
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: set an experience where a promoter like put his hand

577
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: on your leg and that would happen at times, right

578
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 1: and so, and I noticed that you didn't get into

579
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 1: detail about it. But do you feel like that's something

580
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: that a has had any effect on your career in

581
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: any way at all, and be that you would at

582
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: some point get more into detail about because it is,

583
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: like you said, with the Me Too movement and that

584
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: happening all the time, that's a hard thing for women

585
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: to even speak up about. Hans. I didn't say a

586
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: whole lot about it. Yeah, yeah, and not like detailing

587
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: names or who it is, but just even the effect

588
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: that that has on you because horrible, Yeah, because you know,

589
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's like I can think about these

590
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 1: things and I tell you there was one incidence where

591
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 1: I it was like the third time something like this

592
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: had happened to me, and I thought to myself, what

593
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: did I do to deserve that? I'm I'm, I'm my

594
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: skirt is at my knees, I have on a sweater blouse.

595
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: What made this man think that he could just come

596
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: over and put his hands on my body in front

597
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 1: of He didn't know me, right, he did not know me,

598
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: and I was in that. It passed. Years later, I

599
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: was in a situation and that man walked through the door.

600
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: He sat down at the table across from me. He

601
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: did not remember any of this, but I had to

602
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: let him know what he did that night. Oh, I

603
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: absolutely confronted. He was right there. I had to confront

604
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: him about it. Do you want to know what was

605
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 1: the shocking part? Everybody around the table was appalled that

606
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: I would stand up for myself. What they were appalled.

607
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: They told me that I should be ashamed of myself

608
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: and why would I even bring that up? And at

609
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: the dinner table. That's crazy, And that's why women find

610
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: it difficult to speak. That's why, because you don't get

611
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: the support. People don't believe you. They don't understand why

612
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: you're bringing it up. They're like, well, why didn't you

613
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 1: say something at the time, Because it's a feeling a

614
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: powerlessness that you have at the time, and you're also

615
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: shocked and people don't support you. Yeah, I could tell

616
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: you of another time This was a famous TV judge,

617
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: not Judge Mathis. I love him. He's a great man.

618
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: Not him, because I love Judge Mathis too, Judge. No, no no, no,

619
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: he's a great man. This was another one. I'm at

620
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: a very public place. I have on like you see me.

621
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: I was suited, I had my suit on. I was

622
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: handling my business for the teleg vision show I was

623
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: on at that time. He and I were on the

624
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: same network. This man walked in, grabbed me by the

625
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: back of my neck, turned me around and rammed his

626
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: nasty tongue down my throne, and everybody at the network

627
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: saw it, and the uh. The mayor of New Orleans

628
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: at the time was um with my blanket on. His name,

629
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: Mark Morial. I called Mark Morial, Mark Moreal. He said,

630
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: you want me to send the police there right now,

631
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 1: because we will fix his you know what, right now?

632
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: Somebody at the network tapped me on the show that

633
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: they said please don't do you know that They did

634
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: not want any bad press. Yeah, I can believe around

635
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: their show and did not care what had just happened

636
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Speaker 1: to me. It wasn't so bad, was it. That's the

637
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 1: kind of stuff that happens. Yeah, that's what happens. That's

638
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: what makes it hard for women to speak up about

639
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: these And I'm glad you said that because I hear

640
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: that all the time. When women come forward, people are like, well,

641
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: why is she telling this story now? Thank you? Well,

642
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: why didn't she say something when it happened? Thank you?

643
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: And that's why I don't get the support. Thank you?

644
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: And even and if they see it, they saw what happened.

645
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: It's not that bad, is it. Please don't say anything.

646
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: We don't need the bad press. It's a brand new show.

647
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 1: Yours is a new show. I was like, Lord, have mercy.

648
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: They don't think, well, this is gonna hit the fan

649
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: because he's gonna do this to somebody else, because we're

650
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: protecting this. Yeah, and even you questioning what you were wearing,

651
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: like what did I do to make this happen? Because

652
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: people think that too, well, what did you have on? Well?

653
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: Why did you bring that to his room? Well? He

654
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: told me we wanted to look at the script, you know,

655
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: and people act like it's your fault. You shouldn't have

656
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: been in that position, or you shouldn't have been wearing this.

657
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: So I just when I was reading that, I was like,

658
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,439
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine the things that you've been through

659
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: being in this business as long as you have, you know,

660
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: And I might not have heard it publicly, but I

661
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 1: just think it's important because there's so many women that

662
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: might feel like they got some power from here, and

663
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 1: you talk about it too. Well. I'm going to tell

664
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: you something. You know, if a man invites you up

665
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: to his room and it's the middle of the night,

666
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: don't go right to have him meet you down in

667
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: the lobby, right although I will tell you that one

668
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: time Michael Jordan invited me up to his room. What

669
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: time it was, in the middle of the night. I

670
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,479
Speaker 1: did go, and you know what we did. We ended

671
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 1: up playing backgammon. We talked about our parents, we talked

672
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: about our families, and we ended up being good friends

673
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: for a long time. We had no sex whatsoever. In fact,

674
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,439
Speaker 1: he referred to me as the big sister, and I said,

675
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 1: I'm always the big sister, you know, And we just

676
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: had the best time ever. Yeah, there's good people and

677
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: bad people, Yes there are. What kind of advice do

678
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 1: you have for someone who woul who works in Hollywood

679
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: is a woman and went through an experience like you

680
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 1: went through like what advice would you give them? Speak

681
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: up or no or it's hard. I would say nowadays,

682
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: speak up, tell your truth. Do not carry the burden

683
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: of that pain, and especially if it's something you feel

684
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: that you cannot work through, because you know, situations like

685
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: this experience is like this drive some people crazy. Yeah,

686
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: it hurts them to their core. They get changed forever.

687
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: You know, some people never work again, and they never

688
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: work again in this business. You know, I am shocked

689
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: that we're seeing what happened with the whole Harvey Weinstein

690
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: of it all. I'm shocked that they were actually able

691
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,439
Speaker 1: to take him down. You know, there's some other men

692
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 1: that can yell out live, just grab them by the

693
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: you know what, and they become president. They become exactly Yeah.

694
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: You know, so you just never know. And people do lie,

695
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: They straight up lie, and people do believe their lies.

696
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: And you can very you can get very deeply hurt.

697
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,720
Speaker 1: But try to protect yourself, you know, try to protect

698
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: your spirit as much as you can, and try you know,

699
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: there's a thing called discernment. Try to you know, we

700
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: say feel the room, feel the experience, feel the person's vibe.

701
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: Because people can't help but show you who they are,

702
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 1: you know, so protect yourself. Don't go anywhere you think

703
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: there might be trouble, Just don't do it. Listen to

704
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: the signs well, listen Sharer or Lee Ralph, We thank

705
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: you so much for coming through. We did like this

706
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: when a whole nother I feel like we could talk

707
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: to you for maybe like four or five hours. I'm

708
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: not even gonna lie just about everything because there's so

709
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: many gems in this bug Diva two point or twelve

710
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: life lessons from me for you, and I have to

711
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: say it did touch me. I learned a lot more

712
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: about you than I ever knew before just your whole

713
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: career path. We've always seen how talented and amazing you are,

714
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: so this just took it to another level for me.

715
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 1: And want to encourage other writers, you know, if you

716
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: really writers and celebrities, if you really really want to

717
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: get into publishing your book. Not everybody's a great self publisher.

718
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: You can find independent publishers like Wordy, Marva Allen and

719
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: I'm working on getting my own imprint. Yes, we want

720
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: to see your books and we want to help you

721
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: make your money. You don't have to wait on somebody else.

722
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 1: You don't have to wait on the Big five. If

723
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: it's your time, let's see what you've got. Let's read

724
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: your book. Let's help you get on the journey of

725
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: empowering yourself to make your own money. Yeah, get a

726
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 1: better deal. This way to a better deal. Better, we

727
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Speaker 1: all make money together. Thank you so much, Sharylie, Ralph