Speaker 1: Welcome to Checking In with Michelle Williams, a production of
Speaker 1: iHeart Radio and The Black Effect.
Speaker 2: Great day, everybody, how y'all doing. I know it's been
Speaker 2: a tough time, y'all. It's been trying to understand everything
Speaker 2: that's going on overseas. You know, it's been tough to
Speaker 2: figure out everything that's biblical versus everything that's just people
Speaker 2: just being evil, lack of humanity, lack of love. And
Speaker 2: I've had to watch, you know, and get a lot
Speaker 2: of knowledge from trusted voices. And I encourage everyone to
Speaker 2: do the same so that we are not ignorant to
Speaker 2: what's going on, because lots of times we can be
Speaker 2: guilty saying, well, this ain't in the United States, so
Speaker 2: this don't affect me and my family. And I just
Speaker 2: think sometimes when we have that attitude, even when it
Speaker 2: comes to like voting in the elections and stuff, we
Speaker 2: can kind of think, well, it's not going to affect me,
Speaker 2: and then ten years from now you're realizing, oh, it
Speaker 2: affects me somehow, you know, with your taxes, or with
Speaker 2: certain benefits, or even zoning of zip codes which dictate
Speaker 2: where your children can go to school. It's just yeah,
Speaker 2: so let's be vigilant. It seems like I came in on.
Speaker 2: I came on this podcast swinging within the first two
Speaker 2: minutes of asking how are y'all doing? But I can
Speaker 2: imagine there's a lot of confusion. There's a lot of
Speaker 2: people wondering. There's a lot of fear, fear not and
Speaker 2: how can you have no fear? You know, when you
Speaker 2: decide to willingly get more knowledge about the times we're
Speaker 2: living in and get more knowledge about things that are
Speaker 2: going on outside of your zip code, your county, your state,
Speaker 2: your country, get to figuring out what goes on, you know,
Speaker 2: for other genders, other races, other sexualities. You know, let's
Speaker 2: not be so ignorant and think that we don't have
Speaker 2: to have knowledge. But your brothers and sisters and what
Speaker 2: my brothers and sisters are going through. Everyone is a
Speaker 2: brother or a sister. Somehow, we're all connected. We're all
Speaker 2: human and diamond. So yes, all I could do is
Speaker 2: be pray, you know, and sometimes you feel like your
Speaker 2: prayers are helpless because there are hundreds thousands of people dying. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was just telling somebody, you.
Speaker 3: Know, I feel helpless. You know, what do I do?
Speaker 2: You know? So if everyone can just be loving.
Speaker 3: Listen.
Speaker 2: Hold space for people with their perspectives and their opinions.
Speaker 2: Should they differ from yours, hold space. Hold space. So
Speaker 2: if this recording sounds different, it is because I'm in
Speaker 2: my safe space. I am in North Carolina. I'm in
Speaker 2: hit to Night, North Carolina, at my favorite spot at
Speaker 2: Living Waters. This place changed my life. So there was
Speaker 2: a fall family day on Saturday this past Saturday, and
Speaker 2: it would hay rides, y'all, barbecue.
Speaker 3: Just food, folks and fun.
Speaker 2: You hear me, y'all.
Speaker 3: I needed it.
Speaker 2: I needed to. Oh and y'all hear that poppin yes,
Speaker 2: Because I'm literally sitting in front of the fireplace. So
Speaker 2: this is in real time. I don't have my recording
Speaker 2: equipment because I thought I would be home by now,
Speaker 2: but I decided to stay and rest. So if you
Speaker 2: hear some crackling, it is this beautiful fireplace. Just came
Speaker 2: here to rest. And so this place, y'all, if you
Speaker 2: go to Livingwaters Ministry dot com, I want you to
Speaker 2: register for one of the Healing the Heart retreats because
Speaker 2: that retreat changed my inentire life. It changed how I moved,
Speaker 2: It changed how I respond to things. That changed how
Speaker 2: I love and you know I'm being tested.
Speaker 3: It's amazing.
Speaker 2: When you're on a healing journey, you will be tested
Speaker 2: in the area of your calling. You will be tested
Speaker 2: in the area of whatever you're assigned to. You'll be
Speaker 2: tested in the area of the in the area that
Speaker 2: you're trying to heal from.
Speaker 3: And I might share more about that.
Speaker 2: I will say this year some triggers of rejection, some
Speaker 2: areas that I hadn't healed from regarding rejection, were triggered
Speaker 2: this summer in the May juneish time of this year.
Speaker 2: So just been working through that. You guys, rejection does
Speaker 2: not feel good. And rejection could be someone simply dismissing
Speaker 2: how you feel about something, could be the rejection of
Speaker 2: who you actually are, like your actual being can be rejected.
Speaker 2: And I didn't think you know I would ever. I
Speaker 2: don't know why it affected me so much. It seemed
Speaker 2: like the entire month of June I was physically sick.
Speaker 2: I may go into details about it. You guys know
Speaker 2: that I always try to share, especially if there's a
Speaker 2: lesson learned from anything regarding my life. Now, before y'all
Speaker 2: get to sideye am, this rejection was not from a
Speaker 2: romantic relationship. It was not from you know, anything like that,
Speaker 2: but it was from a friendship where I live. It
Speaker 2: was from a friendship. So the reason why I have
Speaker 2: to say say that because y'all thinking I don't have
Speaker 2: no other friends outside of Beyonce and Kelly.
Speaker 3: I do have.
Speaker 2: I do have other friends, Okay, because y'all be thinking, Okay,
Speaker 2: when people start talking personally, y'all be thinking it's about
Speaker 2: a boyfriend or it's about y'all. Know how y'all can
Speaker 2: be come on and raise your hand and say I'm
Speaker 2: talking to you, okay. So I just wanted to clear
Speaker 2: that up. So yeah, it's just been a great time
Speaker 2: of reflection and a great time of recalibration.
Speaker 3: I encourage everyone, if you can.
Speaker 2: Y'all get up here, get to one of these Healing
Speaker 2: the Heart retreats. I volunteer at as many as I can.
Speaker 2: The last one in November is already full, but they
Speaker 2: will resume in January of twenty twenty four. The reason
Speaker 2: why I say this is because you know, I found
Speaker 2: myself in a pattern of certain responses or certain triggers
Speaker 2: or you know. Yeah, so this place really really healed me.
Speaker 2: So I love to come back here and just reset,
Speaker 2: recalibrate the mountains, the farm land. I'm gonna I'll post
Speaker 2: some pictures in my story about how country.
Speaker 3: It is and how beautiful it is.
Speaker 2: So I guess what I was trying to say was, Hey,
Speaker 2: you might not have a spot in North Carolina to
Speaker 2: come to, but sitting by a lake taking a walk
Speaker 2: just to get away from the noise.
Speaker 3: Can be quite healing.
Speaker 2: If you can just you know, or you would be
Speaker 2: surprised in your state where you reside, one of the
Speaker 2: national parks, grab a cabin somewhere and just just go.
Speaker 2: Just breathe, pray, meditate, take safe people.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Right now, I'm sitting by a fireplace. I'm gonna get
Speaker 2: some apple cider or hot cocoa, one of the two, y'all,
Speaker 2: and just just be just get away from a noise
Speaker 2: for a time. Because I can imagine the job you're
Speaker 2: on schooling, or maybe there's a relationship that's not going
Speaker 2: the way you desire for it to go. Maybe you
Speaker 2: need to steal away and just get some time. I
Speaker 2: encourage you to get some time away. So when that's
Speaker 2: that's what I'm doing, I'm getting some time away and
Speaker 2: rereading material and that I needed to go through again.
Speaker 2: Did y'all hear that crackling?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I did not know how to start a fire. But
Speaker 2: even though I started reckless fires when I was a
Speaker 2: little girl, I'm talking about the actual fire where you
Speaker 2: bring the wood in from outside and you get the kindling.
Speaker 2: I think it's called So, y'all, please, I hope this, y'all,
Speaker 2: please forgive me. But I wanted to do a podcast,
Speaker 2: a solo episode, just to so y'all could hear my
Speaker 2: voice so that I could, you know, just have an
Speaker 2: intimate moment with you.
Speaker 3: So if the.
Speaker 2: Popping is too much, I am so sorry, but it
Speaker 2: sounds good to me and it feels good. I also
Speaker 2: wanted to acknowledge that this is the season for season depression.
Speaker 2: And when I look back over the times that I've
Speaker 2: experienced seasonal depression, especially when I was living in Illinois,
Speaker 2: it was something about the changing of the seasons. But
Speaker 2: now I deal with it so much better, especially I
Speaker 2: live in Georgia. I live in Atlanta now, so it
Speaker 2: doesn't get as cold and gloomy it seems. You know,
Speaker 2: it's been raining a lot or windy, but I don't
Speaker 2: know the weather, at least the weather's a little better.
Speaker 3: But seasonal depression is a real thing. It really does
Speaker 3: affect people.
Speaker 2: So how do you know if you're going through seasonal depression? Well, literally,
Speaker 2: when the seasons change, you get down and it occurs
Speaker 2: at the same time every year. Seasonal effective disorder occurs
Speaker 2: in climates where there is less sunlight at certain times
Speaker 2: of the year. Okay, So I want to just encourage
Speaker 2: you guys who deal with that. Again, it is triggered
Speaker 2: by changes in season. This form of depression usually occurs
Speaker 2: during the fall and winter months when there is less
Speaker 2: sunlight and the days get shorter, and it's called sad sad. Again,
Speaker 2: seasonal effective disorder usually lives during the spring and summer months.
Speaker 3: I promise you. It never failed from.
Speaker 2: About who November around March. It definitely affected me living
Speaker 2: in the Midwest with all the snow and so you know,
Speaker 2: I had to get away and get in the climate
Speaker 2: where it was warmer out for me. I have to
Speaker 2: have warmth, even though Atlanta can get cold. But yes,
Speaker 2: that is so true. So during the winter months when
Speaker 2: there's less sunlight and the days get shorter, all right,
Speaker 2: Not according to SAMHSA dot gov. Not everyone with SAD
Speaker 2: has the same symptoms, but they can include sad, anxious
Speaker 2: or empty feelings, feelings of hopelessness, guilt, worthlessness or helplessness,
Speaker 2: loss of interest or pleasure, and activities you used to enjoy.
Speaker 2: Fatigue and decreased energy, Difficulty concentrating, remembering details and making decisions,
Speaker 2: thoughts of death or suicide, oversleeping, overeating, particularly with the
Speaker 2: craving for carbohydrates. What if I'm just greedy, honey, I
Speaker 2: love a good Texas toast, honey, y'all, y'all, I love
Speaker 2: just putting bread with butter on it and putting it
Speaker 2: in the oven on the broiler.
Speaker 3: It's different than putting your.
Speaker 2: Toast in a toaster. You gotta let that butter kind
Speaker 2: of bake ino and melt into the Breadge out, yes
Speaker 2: and okay, okay, okay, greedy smurf over here symptoms.
Speaker 3: Let's get back to the symptoms.
Speaker 2: Weight gain, social withdrawing, kind of you feel like hibernating,
Speaker 2: difficulty sleeping, lack of appetite, irritability, and agitation.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: There is a such thing as a light. It's called light.
Speaker 2: It's like light therapy or a happy light. You can
Speaker 2: literally go on Amazon and get this light and you
Speaker 2: can put it on your desk out of you know,
Speaker 2: and people absolutely love it. Or therapy to antidepressants, Vitamin
Speaker 2: D supplements may improve symptoms. And I don't know, for
Speaker 2: some reason, I feel like I've heard it before that
Speaker 2: black people are prone to having more of a vitamin
Speaker 2: D deficiency. So these symptoms sound similar and are exactly
Speaker 2: what depression is. It is a form. It is a
Speaker 2: form of depression, all right. So and if you notice
Speaker 2: that you literally get sad in the fall and it
Speaker 2: lasts till about the springtime, it literally is called s
Speaker 2: a d. Now, light therapy, let's go talk about light therapy. Okay,
Speaker 2: there literally is a light therapy lamp. Y'all their online
Speaker 2: for as low. I see one for twenty nine to
Speaker 2: ninety nine child at CBS. You can get go on
Speaker 2: Amazon right now and get you a light therapy lamp
Speaker 2: fifty one dollars, thirty nine dollars, twenty dollars, thirty dollars,
Speaker 2: seventy dollars. Child. They got light therapy lamps in all
Speaker 2: brackets as far as you know what you would want.
Speaker 3: To pay for it.
Speaker 2: But I always say, definitely consult your doctor first. And
Speaker 2: I am not dealing with sad at the moment, but
Speaker 2: I still think I'm gonna order me a lamp child.
Speaker 2: And that's why I love, I love. I think you know,
Speaker 2: having doing you know, Florida ceiling windows, being able to
Speaker 2: have a lot of light come in, come in in
Speaker 2: your house, having a lot of light in. Now, if
Speaker 2: you walk around your house naked all the time, you
Speaker 2: might want to, you know, get you some shears.
Speaker 3: Or maybe you don't care.
Speaker 2: Maybe you're free, maybe you don't mind people walking down
Speaker 2: the street and they look in your condo or your brownstone,
Speaker 2: your apartment and see your sweet cheeks in the window
Speaker 2: because you like to walk around naked in e KK
Speaker 2: I D so, I definitely wanted to speak into those
Speaker 2: that have sad.
Speaker 3: I have had it.
Speaker 2: It is not fun, especially when you already you know,
Speaker 2: have dealt with depression in the past that had nothing
Speaker 2: to do with this season. You know, I've had depression
Speaker 2: in July, and you know, so I get it, But
Speaker 2: again I do, I do know what sad feels like.
Speaker 3: I could call oh.
Speaker 2: And maybe about two years ago I could feel it
Speaker 2: trying to come on, and I was like, uh uh,
Speaker 2: So now that I know what it is, and if
Speaker 2: I feel something similar, I just counter it. I was like, no,
Speaker 2: And that's the good thing about having the tools, you know,
Speaker 2: going through enough therapy, going through enough healing. You know,
Speaker 2: if I didn't have enough healing, you know, I would
Speaker 2: probably be in a moment of sad. But now when
Speaker 2: it's cloudy out, I pray for rain, like, oh Lord,
Speaker 2: let the rain come and watch this patio of you know,
Speaker 2: if it's cloudy, like all right, even though it's calledy,
Speaker 2: I know the sun is still shining up there somewhere.
Speaker 3: And that's from life.
Speaker 2: It may seem cloudy, it may seem dim, but just
Speaker 2: know the sun is still up there. Isn't that amazing
Speaker 2: Even when it's cloudy out, there's still some light in
Speaker 2: the clouds that cover the sun, and the light are temporary.
Speaker 3: Even the cloud's gotta move.
Speaker 2: The sadness has got to move, The anxiety has got
Speaker 2: to move, the worry has got to move, the fear
Speaker 2: has got to move. Light is so much powerful then
Speaker 2: the fear, worried, depression, anxiety, it's so powerful. Get into
Speaker 2: the light. Tell me what your light is. Get into
Speaker 2: the light is the light, just sitting down. I'm literally
Speaker 2: I'm in a rocking chair in front of the light,
Speaker 2: the fire, this fireplace. Get into the light. Get into
Speaker 2: the light of positive thinking and positive conversation. If you
Speaker 2: know you did with sadness, anger, or worry, Why engage
Speaker 2: in conversations that's only going to trigger it and make
Speaker 2: it worse.
Speaker 3: Get into the light.
Speaker 2: Get into the light kind of, Get into the light
Speaker 2: with some ice cream, Get into the light with some
Speaker 2: teasing cameo, Get into the light with the word, get
Speaker 2: into the light with prayer, Get into the light with dance,
Speaker 2: Get into the light with music.
Speaker 3: Get into the light.
Speaker 2: Get into the light. All right, I ain't gonna tell
Speaker 2: you no more. I felt the need to speak into
Speaker 2: someone who possibly is feeling the weight of the sadness
Speaker 2: due to the seasons changing. All right, again, please talk
Speaker 2: to your doctors, your therapists, through your job, and through
Speaker 2: your school. Help is available. Resources are available, especially if
Speaker 2: you're in school. Some resources are free, okay, so take advantage.
Speaker 2: And again, as far as the light therapy, you know,
Speaker 2: make sure you.
Speaker 3: Research it for yourself.
Speaker 2: But there are people who should not use light therapy,
Speaker 2: especially if you have diseases. That involve the retina of
Speaker 2: the eyes, such as diabetes and the use of photo
Speaker 2: sensitizing medications like lithium, melatonin, antipsychotics, and certain antibiotics, you know,
Speaker 2: all right, I had a bronchitis. Oh to have olvers
Speaker 2: sin it's infection them. So I was treated with the antibiotic.
Speaker 2: And you can't go you can't be in the sun
Speaker 2: on an antibiotics. So please please please figure out you know,
Speaker 2: the light therapy. There are images literally, y'all. Just google
Speaker 2: light therapy and you'll see people literally sitting in front
Speaker 2: of the light. All right, Okay, Well, I am literally
Speaker 2: just wanting to check in with you, guys. This is
Speaker 2: a hard season, hard times, but I pray you again.
Speaker 2: I always encourage safe people to process this all with
Speaker 2: and if you don't know, I hope to provide some
Speaker 2: resources of truth. And I'm excited I'm gonna have somebody
Speaker 2: on maybe the next episode that can and shed light
Speaker 2: on some things that our world is facing right now,
Speaker 2: all right, And I just know that I love you,
Speaker 2: and it's been you know. I was so happy to
Speaker 2: see some of my East Coast loves at the Mental
Speaker 2: Wealth Expo in New York that was really really it
Speaker 2: was really good. It was really good to see you guys,
Speaker 2: and so I really really really appreciate it. And you know,
Speaker 2: to see so many people y'all the men's panel, to
Speaker 2: see men talking and being vulnerable about their mental health journey,
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, oh, y'all can get it. Okay, wait,
Speaker 2: let me see all of them. That might be a stretch,
Speaker 2: but a few of them up there was real. That
Speaker 2: was my type.
Speaker 3: They was real cute.
Speaker 2: You know, obviously I have been equal opportunity as far
Speaker 2: as color is concerned. But listen, when they was up
Speaker 2: there talking, I says, see a man that's in tune
Speaker 2: with himself and his journey and doing things.
Speaker 3: To better himself. Now this is for me. Now for me.
Speaker 3: I loved it.
Speaker 2: I thought it was amazing.
Speaker 3: Okay, because.
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of men are taught to hold
Speaker 2: their pain inside, hold the pain inside, don't talk, so
Speaker 2: then when you try to have a deep conversation with him,
Speaker 2: they can't say more than three words mm hmm. Process,
Speaker 2: get that pain out, get rid of that baggage, get riten,
Speaker 2: get rid of that hurt. I'm reading something and it
Speaker 2: says pain held inside festers and causes more pain. This
Speaker 2: is from healing and restoring the heart by my spiritual
Speaker 2: mom Denise Bogs. It just says pain held inside faster
Speaker 2: and causes more pain. The festering occurs because you are
Speaker 2: still hurt and angry. Anxiety and depression are symptoms of
Speaker 2: unresolved pain that has been held onto. Depression is anger
Speaker 2: held inward, all right, and so pain inside. You know,
Speaker 2: a friend of mine, their son fell Lord Jesus and
Speaker 2: fell and hit his head child on the table until
Speaker 2: he's you know, his brow cut in the eyebrown. So
Speaker 2: it required a lot of stitches.
Speaker 3: And so I heard.
Speaker 2: Someone say, oh, man, you're gonna be all right, and
Speaker 2: I said, don't say that. Don't dismiss this little boy's pain.
Speaker 2: Don't also dismiss he's got stitches.
Speaker 3: He's gonna have a whole scar. Now. I got a
Speaker 3: scar under my eye.
Speaker 2: Because I think me and my brother were playing. What
Speaker 2: we were planning, was he really mad at me and
Speaker 2: hit me in the eye, and their belt buckle hit
Speaker 2: me under my eye. I got a little scot under there, y'all.
Speaker 2: Don't leave him alone. He didn't mean it, and that's
Speaker 2: my brother, and I love him so but we teach,
Speaker 2: we teach, especially young boys. Man, you're gonna be all right,
Speaker 2: tough it up, you'll be fine. And I'm like, don't
Speaker 2: tell that little boy that. And then they said, well,
Speaker 2: he was acting up, and he would. He was being
Speaker 2: disobedient and was playing and was doing something he had
Speaker 2: no business doing and.
Speaker 3: He fell on the table. Oh Lord Jesus.
Speaker 2: Either way, I'm still not dismissing that young boy's pain.
Speaker 2: And I'm not gonna tell him to tough it up,
Speaker 2: no matter if he was playing and wasn't supposed to
Speaker 2: be playing and he fell. So what this little boy
Speaker 2: got stitches in his forehead? All right? AnyWho, pain demands
Speaker 2: to be felt, and so once you deal with the pain,
Speaker 2: it is gone and it cannot affect you any longer.
Speaker 2: The pain found beneath depression. It's all anger, and you
Speaker 2: have to allow yourself to feel the pain in order
Speaker 2: to release it. You can begin releasing the anger by
Speaker 2: acknowledging who hurt you, all right, and you must break
Speaker 2: your families. Don't talk rule and talk it out. Okay,
Speaker 2: So there are things that family you know, don't talk
Speaker 2: about it. Minimize it, you know, sweep it under the rug.
Speaker 2: So all dysfunctional families have four unspoken rules that keep
Speaker 2: pain bird inside. Don't talk, don't feel, don't trust, and
Speaker 2: don't rock the boat. And these rules are what keep
Speaker 2: a family dysfunctional and therefore must be broken for a
Speaker 2: family to be healthy. How many of us come from
Speaker 2: families where you don't talk about how you feel, or
Speaker 2: you're so numb you don't feel, or you or you're
Speaker 2: told don't trust, don't rock the boat because if I
Speaker 2: say something, Daddy's gonna get mad. If I say something,
Speaker 2: Mom's gonna get upset, don't rock the boat. So you know,
Speaker 2: you keep your pain inside just to keep the peace,
Speaker 2: and then you grow up with no peace in your heart,
Speaker 2: you know. So this is just what mother Michelle be
Speaker 2: up here in North Carolina doing processing and mine in
Speaker 2: my business. But I still think of my checking in
Speaker 2: listeners often. Thank you y'all for allowing me to just
Speaker 2: help touch you in a way and perfectly. You know,
Speaker 2: I keep checking in to be a safe place for you.
Speaker 2: And congratulations to all the folks that our recipients of
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Speaker 3: But not destroyed.
Speaker 2: When I tell you I'm excited, I'm excited his book
Speaker 2: is a New York Times bestseller, and you should be
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Speaker 2: being sent out. So I'm excited for y'all to get
Speaker 2: y'all's books. And yeah, I want you to go, just
Speaker 2: go right quick to Livingwatersministry dot com and register for
Speaker 2: a Healing the Heart retreat. So if y'all know it
Speaker 2: is checking in, there's a heart in the branding.
Speaker 3: It's because my heart has come a long, long, long.
Speaker 2: Way, and I have this place to thank for it.
Speaker 2: It is faith based, but no matter what your faith is,
Speaker 2: no matter what your belief is, when you strip all
Speaker 2: that away, we have been the recipients of some unmet needs.
Speaker 2: We don't know how to grieve losses properly. That turn
Speaker 2: into depression, that make you more anxious, you know. And
Speaker 2: when you don't grieve a loss properly, addictions form habits
Speaker 2: for him if you cannot get out of those first
Speaker 2: three steps of grieving a loss properly, which is shock, anger,
Speaker 2: and sadness. Right. So, I've had to grieve some losses, y'all.
Speaker 2: But the only way that I can stand before y'all
Speaker 2: and talk to y'all and not feel like a hypocrite
Speaker 2: is because of the ongoing work. But I love this journey.
Speaker 2: I love it and I love the people that God
Speaker 2: has blessed me to be able.
Speaker 3: To journey with and who journey with me. Right, So
Speaker 3: I want your to come. I want try to.
Speaker 2: Make sure y'all register and get to a Healing the
Speaker 2: Heart retreat for twenty twenty four. Do not come on,
Speaker 2: y'all come on, and I want to say hello. There was.
Speaker 3: A couple of retreats ago.
Speaker 2: Someone walked up to a friend of mine and said, Hey,
Speaker 2: I'm here because I heard Michelle talk about Healing the
Speaker 2: Heart on one of her podcasts.
Speaker 3: So I just want to say thank you.
Speaker 2: I'm excited that you.
Speaker 3: Came and you showed up.
Speaker 2: I want to hear about your experience. Okay, so if
Speaker 2: you're listening, let me know about your experience. I don't
Speaker 2: say the name, because you know, we hold all confidentiality
Speaker 2: you know up here. So I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited.
Speaker 2: All right, catch me in Philly this weekend, all right,
Speaker 2: October twenty second, at the Circle of Sisters event in Philly.
Speaker 3: I'm excited.
Speaker 2: I think I make my appearance at four PM at
Speaker 2: the Circle of Sisters.
Speaker 3: Event in Philly.
Speaker 2: I always love coming to Philly, so I hope to
Speaker 2: see y'all there, And just please know that I certainly
Speaker 2: do love you, and I hope that something that I
Speaker 2: said on this episode touched you, or if you feel
Speaker 2: like you need to, let a friend listen to it.
Speaker 2: Seasonal effective disorder is real again because the days are
Speaker 2: shorter and there's less sunlight. So please please please know
Speaker 2: that you are not alone. Okay, all right, thanks for
Speaker 2: checking in, all right, bye bye.
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