1 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI. He is the Matt 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: Williamson and it is time Matt on the Drive for 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: the Fantasy Football Focus. 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 2: Let's do it. 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: And it is a Wednesday, which means we go over 6 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: everybody's practice schedules. 7 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: Here. 8 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: We start to get some guys news and notes on 9 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: guys who were in and out. And the first one 10 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about is Kyler Murray is back. 11 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: Interesting. I was just asking you off the area and 12 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 2: the league we're in together, and I'm torn between Sam 13 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 2: Howe and Kyler Murray. I mean, the upside's there. I 14 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: actually saw my podcast today thinking this Arizona offense could 15 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 2: be pretty decent the rest of the way. Their line 16 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: isn't horrible. They got weapons McBride and Brown and Wilson 17 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: and Connor coming back sooner than later. I don't know 18 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: that they're going to be a good football team, but 19 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 2: I think they could have an average offense. 20 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, Connor his window was activated to twenty one day 21 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: windows as well today. We'll see if he comes back, 22 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: But I mean that would be a big boost on 23 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: both ends of that for them. I just don't know 24 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: how much Kyler is going to run I know, and 25 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: he hasn't played football year. 26 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna start howl over him. Yeah, yeah, just 27 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: because i've seen him. Yeah, but it is. 28 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: The Falcons now. The Falcons past defense had been pretty good, 29 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: but they've started to lose some pieces here and there. 30 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:15,559 Speaker 2: But he needs to run to be really be working. 31 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:16,839 Speaker 1: He needs to run the Yeah, because he's. 32 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 2: Not Keffrey will or not right. 33 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't know. 34 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: I'm intrigued to watch them though. This league in general, 35 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 2: fantasy aside, could use a boost and quarterback, yeah, I 36 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: means better than Clayton Tune. 37 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: Nico Collins with the calf injury, was limited Wednesday's practice. 38 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: He's only Houston receiver who didn't have one hundred yards 39 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: last week. 40 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: I still think he's their best guy, but it wasn't 41 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 2: his day like it was horrible. Keep an eye on him, though. 42 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: I think he's an every week starter. 43 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: Michael Wilson with the Cardinals, he's dealing with the shoulder. 44 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: He was limited in practice on Wednesday. 45 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: Do you want him on your roster? I'm interested in Yeah, 46 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: I'm interested. I like the player. 47 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: Amari Demarcado, with a toe injury, did not practice. 48 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 2: On Wednesday, Cardinal News. 49 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: As I mentioned James Connor officially limited to a in 50 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: his first back out there. Yea, probably not this week, 51 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: maybe next week. 52 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 2: I would think that's the timeline, and then. 53 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: You're rolling the dice with James Connor. 54 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,839 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but there's a lot of running back star 55 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 2: teams out there. They are using can. 56 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 1: Certainly are Josh Palmer. News Chargers coach Brandon Staley said, 57 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: Josh Palmer is dealing with a springed knee. That sounds 58 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: like several weeks. 59 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: See, I thought he was going on IR, so maybe 60 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 2: that's good news. 61 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: Actually, well, he didn't go on IR last week, so 62 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: that they knew he wasn't gonna play. 63 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily want to own him. I mean, even 64 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: when he's healthy. I mean, I'm not holding on to 65 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 2: him while he's hurt. But it's not like Quinton Johnson's 66 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 2: picking up a slack either. 67 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: No, I think that. I mean, they played it. That's 68 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: a tough wide receiver matchup against the Jets. 69 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: It is. 70 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: I think this week against Detroit they might have thrown 71 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: a little bit more. I'd be interested to see. I 72 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: would at least have Johnson on my watch list. 73 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: I guess maybe the second half of his rookie season 74 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: is better than the first. 75 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: Kind of like to Michael Wilson situation, the opportunities are 76 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: going to be there. 77 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 2: They are, they are. Maybe it's a Gerald Everett's a 78 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: little bit of a bump, or maybe more throws deckl 79 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: or you know, I'd take that too. Yeah, yeah, t 80 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 2: Higgins he looked great this week. 81 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: Dealing with the hamstring and was limited today. 82 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 2: Okay, I assume that's stuff from did he have a 83 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: hammy before? 84 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: I didn't think it was a hammer. 85 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 2: I didn't think it was When you said hamstring, I 86 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 2: was about to say, he's probably just feeling it from the 87 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: old injury. But yeah, he had a great game. Yeah, 88 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 2: Chase's banged out. Chase is questionable with a back injury. 89 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 2: So they they're missing their top two Houston. I think 90 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: they lose if they don't have both lose if they 91 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: don't Deebo Samuel with the shoulder was a full participant 92 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: in I'm not seeing that. I'm not predicting it. But 93 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: then they're in the same boat as if they lost 94 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 2: the Bills last. 95 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: Week, right, except they had the tire breaker on the Bills. 96 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: Who both of them might. 97 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 2: Be all those AFC losses. 98 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: Houston might be in the driver's seat. 99 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, he be. That'd be a huge win for no 100 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: matter how they get. 101 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: It great shape. Deebo Back is a full participant this week. 102 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: It looks like he's going to return. 103 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: Coming off by I think that's what they were shooting 104 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: for when he got hurt. 105 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: However, Trent Williams did not practice. 106 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: I don't think he's gonna play. We're talking Niners today. 107 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 2: That's a big deal for them. Yeah, huge deal in 108 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 2: Jacksonville too. 109 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. The Mario Douglas was limited in Wednesday's practice with 110 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: an ankle injury for the Patriots, just when he's starting. 111 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 2: Say, they're a little buzz around him, but you can 112 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 2: have him. 113 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: DeVante Parker, with a concussion, was limited. He's not fantasy relevant. 114 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: David Montgomery was a full participant in Wednesday's practice with 115 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 1: that rib issue. Now, Dan Campbell has said they're going 116 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:41,799 Speaker 1: to go with a committee. 117 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 2: Approach, but it's gonna be him and Gibbs. 118 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: It's gonna be two guys. Montgomery is going to get 119 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: the goal line touches. 120 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, if. 121 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: They're winning, Montgomery is going to get the football. 122 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 2: And they may even be on the field together here 123 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: and there. I mean it's like I'm. 124 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: Looking at it, I bet it's more of like a 125 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: six the forty split in favor. 126 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 2: Of Montgomery in terms of carries. Yeah, yeah, maybe even 127 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 2: overall touches. Maybe Gibbs is really good this past week there. 128 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: Montgomery, they're a good team and they should be winning 129 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,799 Speaker 1: the majority of their games down the stretch. 130 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 2: No, I mean then they're going to close you out. Yeah, 131 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,119 Speaker 2: behind a good line. No, I mean they're both starting. 132 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: Both Yeah, I think they're both starters. I just think 133 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: this will probably end up being more what people thought 134 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: it was going to be going into the season. 135 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: I agree, I agree. I don't think. I think Gibbs 136 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 2: is a little bit of a one off with his 137 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: usage last week. Yeah, I mean that's. 138 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: They don't they know they want him to be the 139 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift of Montgomery's Jamal Williams. 140 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, gadget guy catch a lot of balls, right, and 141 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 2: he looked great doing it. 142 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh. Bocks cornerback Jamal Dean, with a concussion, did 143 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: not practice on Wednesday. Past defense was bad with him. 144 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't say they got thrown on like crazy, 145 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 2: and people are throwing all over Tampa. 146 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's worth knowing. They are playing Tennessee this week. 147 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: I mean, would you fire up Will Levis? 148 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 2: I think it's like, none of this is not the 149 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,239 Speaker 2: worst start I've ever had. If you're like, if Jalen 150 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 2: Hurts is your starter and he's off or something like that, yeah, 151 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: I mean he's perfect for that. 152 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: Zay Jones with the knee was limited Wednesday. At least 153 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: he's trending in the right direction. 154 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: I don't know how that affects Ridley kirk Ingram, et cetera. 155 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 2: To me, it just seems like one more mouth to feed. 156 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: When he's played. They've used him. 157 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 2: They've used him, right, they're paying them. They like him. Yeah. 158 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 1: The key here this week is that I think the 159 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: forty nine ers will score some points against them. They're 160 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: not going to just be able to hand the ball 161 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: off to Travis atn No No. I heard the interesting 162 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: stat today, By the way, speaking of atn you know 163 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: who the two leading leaders in broken tackles are in 164 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: the NFL this year broken tackles McCaffrey and ATN AT 165 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: and leads was seventeen. Number two is not Harris with fourteen. 166 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 2: That actually doesn't surprise me. I mean a lot of 167 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: them were behind the line of scrimmage, you know, but 168 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 2: even when he's gotten Yeah, that doesn't surprise me. 169 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: And people are talking Harris is averaging two yards per 170 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: carry after contract after contact. 171 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: Which is good, it's real good. Yeah, we're talking about him. 172 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: Like he's having a bad year. He's just not getting 173 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: the football's. 174 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 2: Much no, right, right, And his explosive run ratio is 175 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 2: better than it's ever been, you know, things like that 176 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 2: he kept breaking off. 177 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: He's got four twenty yard runs this year. 178 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: No, that doesn't surprise me with the broken tackles. 179 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: But does he has Jay Jones if he comes back. 180 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what that I mean maybe so. I 181 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: think if I looked at it, I think that the 182 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: games that Jay Jones has played, they haven't used the 183 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: tight end as much. 184 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 2: I think that's true too, after doing Jacksonville research recently. 185 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: But he's only played a couple of games. 186 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 2: It just so happened in the first couple of games 187 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 2: of the year. 188 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: That those games were the games that really Ingram didn't 189 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: do anything. The first those games that did, Jay Jones played, 190 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: and it. 191 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 2: Felt like they wanted to get Ridley more involved than 192 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: they had. But actually the leading receiver like Jones is 193 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 2: my last choice to start. 194 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, because you have to start Ingerhm at 195 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: this point. 196 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think you'd have to start Kirking Ridley 197 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 2: pretty close. 198 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: But you don't, especially against the forty forty nine ers, 199 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: give up the yardage to the outside receivers. Yeah. 200 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: I mean it's good for Lawrence of course. 201 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. Interesting Curtis Samuel with the toe is limited Wednesday's practice. 202 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 2: I don't think it's an accident that Dotson's really spiked 203 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: since Samuel's been hund. 204 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, but if Samuel comes back, what's that do to Dotson? 205 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 2: I think they're both good players, but it hurts him. 206 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 1: Yeah. Josh Dollens with a knee did not prascice on Wednesday. 207 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: It doesn't look good for me now. 208 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 2: Because he gave it a shot and quickly came out 209 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 2: of the game last time. Yeah, I mean I didn't 210 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 2: think he was gonna. 211 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: Play, just when you thought he was ready to. 212 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. I wonder when they're by is. 213 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: I'm not positive that might either. 214 00:08:55,920 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: I don't think they've had it though, so maybe it's 215 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: after that, But I think, yeah, I think it's a concern. 216 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson. Vikings coach Kevin O'Connell said it would be 217 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: a little aggressive for Justin Jefferson to play in Week 218 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: ten against the Saints. They started his window this week, 219 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: but they're not going to rush this like. 220 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 2: I wouldn't think. But they could be a playoff team. 221 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: They could be. But even even if they lose this 222 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: game to the Saints this week, they're still in the 223 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: driver's seat because they've they've got they've they've been on 224 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 1: a heater waiting. 225 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 2: Last week is a long It goes a long way 226 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 2: them and then. 227 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: You get Jefferson back and it's like, okay, now we 228 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: can do something here. 229 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 2: Dobbs is fine, but I don't know that their offense 230 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 2: is going to be great. 231 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: It's not gonna be dynamical. Let's see here, we got 232 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: a lot of offensive linement and stuff. Cole Comet was 233 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: removed from the Week ten injury report and we'll play 234 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: against the Panthers. Cole Comet's like, actually tight end number five. 235 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: He's been way better than I expected. I think it's 236 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 2: what mostly a tea bag thing, you know, Like I 237 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 2: think he loves them, but they love him to him 238 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 2: and they gave him good money and I've never been 239 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 2: a believer. 240 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: No. I mentioned Jamar Chase. He did not practice on Wednesday. 241 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 2: I bet he's a true game time decision that. 242 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: Could very well be. I mean he's gonna be banged 243 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: up all week. 244 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 245 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 1: Khalil Herbert, with an ankle, is officially questionable for week ten. 246 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: Thursday night, he's off ir windows against the Panthers. He's 247 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 2: actually okay. 248 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,359 Speaker 1: That sounds like it's going to be kind of a gamecas. 249 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: I don't think, I know Fields isn't playing. I don't 250 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: know if her Fields is doubtful. What's crazy about that game? 251 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 2: We'll talk about more yesterday. The they're playing the Panthers 252 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 2: and they have both first round picks. Yeah, that are 253 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 2: premium premium picks. 254 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: Like if you win, you win, if you lose, you win. 255 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: Right, But one of them changes. We were joking about 256 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 2: it on the podcast today. It's like, ideally maybe it 257 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 2: would beat the tie. Yeah, don't go to for two 258 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 2: to win it, just kick can send it the overtime. 259 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: The Lions listed Donovan People's Jones in his first week 260 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: of Lions practice as a questionable. 261 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 2: With a rib injury in how much he's involved, but yeah, 262 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 2: I think he was more insurance the trade deadline. 263 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: Revan Jordan did not participate in practice Wednesday for the 264 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: Houston Texans. He's a non factor at disappoint Dalton Schultz. 265 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 2: Schultz is the guy and the receivers are the guys. 266 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: Like the last I think the last five games, Dalton 267 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: Schultz has had double digit Fantasy points. 268 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, I know he's having. 269 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: And they're playing Cincinnati this week. Cincinnati has not covered 270 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 1: tight ends well all season. They're like thirtieth and that. 271 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 2: I knew it was bad, but I know it was 272 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 2: that low. I mean, you're firing up Stroud and Nico 273 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 2: and Dell and Schultz right yeah, they're they're hot right now. 274 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 2: They're good players. Roll with it, yeah, roll with it. 275 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: Mentioned Christian Watson, uh, Steven Sullivan with the Panthers, he 276 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: did not. He's been been a starter Christian Watson, though 277 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: I can't trust him. 278 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: He's getting a lot of end zone targets and Souff 279 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 2: like that, but man, not that whole passing game for off. 280 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: He's almost he's reaching the point now where you start 281 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: him and hope he has like a I don't know, Yeah, yeah, 282 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: it's a home run. Shot. 283 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean the thing is he's the deep threat, 284 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 2: and Rogers was a great d passer and loves a 285 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 2: terrible deep passer. 286 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it just doesn't of course, just doesn't work. As 287 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:25,599 Speaker 1: we mentioned. Uh, Tommy DeVito will start to name the 288 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: starter for the Giants this week against the Cowboys. 289 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 2: There's sixteen point dogs and it keeps climbing. Yeah, I 290 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 2: don't know how much. 291 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: I don't know where. 292 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 2: Well, they could have got. 293 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: Three touchdowns will probably be my limit. 294 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 2: And the over unders like thirty six. 295 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: I don't know how they score. 296 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: Would say the Giants get the double digit points, I'd 297 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 2: be shocked. Does Parsons have five sacks? 298 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: I don't understand. So they signed Matt Barkley. He's been 299 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: named the backup. 300 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 2: I don't is this a tank job. 301 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: Matt Barkley's got to be your starter. Matt Barkley was 302 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: with Brian day Ball. 303 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 2: He knows the system. 304 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: Reason Yeah, yeah, he knows your system. 305 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 2: It's never been good, but he's better than Tommy DeVito. 306 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I wonder if Tommy DeVito wasn't a good 307 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 2: college quarterback. No, and he was there for six years. 308 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 2: Yeah that's yeah, he's on the blue Tarsky plan. I 309 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 2: think that's a tank. I don't. 310 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: I already did it. They beat without Waller, With Waller 311 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,359 Speaker 1: on IR, I didn't want to start any Giants Receivers 312 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: as it was. No, I don't know if I want 313 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: to start Barkley this week, you have to. I understand, 314 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: he's going to get volume right until until the score 315 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: is you know, thirty one nothing. 316 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 2: He's going to get beat up the rest of the 317 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 2: way in a big way too. 318 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: Yeah he's good. 319 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not his fault, but Lion stinks. 320 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. They don't even block that one all year, Like 321 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: he's going to see fourteen man boxes. 322 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 2: Yeah. Is Tyrod back in three weeks or something? 323 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah he can come back. 324 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: I mean, not that he's a superstar, but it be's 325 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: a lot better than what they got. 326 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. I just I can't understand starting to. 327 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 2: No, I think they might want to lose. 328 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: I don't know how you look around the locker room 329 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: and say, hey, guys, we're gonna start Tommy DeVito this week. 330 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 2: I know, I mean they know he should really shouldn't 331 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 2: be an. 332 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: Elaite like Jets fans right now are going well, at 333 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: least our guys, not Tommy DeVito. 334 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 2: No, they're not close. They're not even close. Right. The 335 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 2: Vito is lucky to being a roster. 336 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: I can't believe it. Oh. Johan Dotson missed practice on 337 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: Wednesday for personal reasons, but it's expected to be back 338 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: on Thursday. 339 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 2: Oh okay, good now. 340 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: Tyson Badgen is expected to start Thursday's game against Carolina 341 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: with justin Fields doubtful. 342 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 2: Sounds like he'll go ten days from then though. Yeah, 343 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 2: we're gonna be back to seeing them. That was one 344 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: of the only thing that I was looking forward to 345 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 2: for the Thursday night game. I wanted to see young 346 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 2: verset fields at least, I mean, see what the young 347 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 2: guys are up to. 348 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: Now. 349 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 2: The big storyline is just draft lots, but they own 350 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 2: both spots, like is badging? 351 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: Remember we have four teams off this week. He's rushed 352 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: for ninety seven yards in his three starts. 353 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, which you take? I mean, yeah, that's helpful for fantasy, 354 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: of course, against terrible team. 355 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: Against a terrible team, Caroline's not gonna have Brian Burns, 356 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: who's their best. 357 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 2: Pass run more revenge game. 358 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: It's a dj more revenge game. 359 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 2: Any Mooney and comet man. 360 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: He's targeting comet in the red zone. 361 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 2: I know what you're about to ask, and the answer 362 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 2: still no, Okay, I mean I'm starting, like I mean, 363 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 2: I'm not starting to veto over him. 364 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: Would you start Kenny picking over Tyson Badget? 365 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I wish Kenny ranmore, though, Kenny, he's not 366 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 2: running this. She's not running at all. Right, I mean 367 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 2: this is. 368 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: Where some of the disconnect comes between I think the 369 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: way Pickett is playing overall and in the national perception. 370 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: So many people look at this as a fantasy. 371 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 2: Football right and same with Love. 372 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: It's like, look, they're playing, well. 373 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 2: Really started them right, right, you're starting fantasy. No, people 374 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 2: look thinking through a fantasy lens too much. Yeah, you 375 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 2: have to separate right in terms of is he a 376 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 2: really good player or not being used? 377 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: Robert Woods did not practice today. In addition to I 378 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: think he Brown though, No Brown had a huge game, 379 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: huge game, and that was only on six targets. 380 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 2: So I'm not running to pick up No Brown. But 381 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 2: I think he is ahead of Woods. 382 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: Would you start the little dude? Yeah, Tank del Yeah. 383 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: I think he's a wide receiver. Two yeah, I think 384 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 2: he's he's legit. I think he's an every week starter. Basically, 385 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 2: would you. 386 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: Start him over? There's a bunch of guys. I'd have 387 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: to look at that. 388 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 2: One to see who deals or Pickens, I mean Pickings production. 389 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: Squeaky wheel. 390 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 2: I do think there's a squeaky wheel narrative. We'll talk 391 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 2: about that later in the week, I'm sure. But that's 392 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 2: a perfect example. Oh, Pickens isn't having a good year 393 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 2: with he's useless when Johnson's out there. No, he just 394 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 2: isn't putting a fantasy. 395 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: If he catches, if he catches the touchdown. Last week, 396 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: nobody cares that he had two catches for minus one 397 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: yards because now all of a sudden, he has three 398 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: catches for twenty seven yards and a touchdown. Yeah, okay, 399 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: it wasn't a great week, but he scored. 400 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 2: But he's doing dirty work out there. I mean he's 401 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 2: got you know, getting you know, a lot of coverage 402 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 2: rolled his way and things like that. Like he's not 403 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 2: playing terrible. 404 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: No, right, No, Damian Pierce was not a practice on Wednesday. 405 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: I thought this was not good. Yeah, I'm such not 406 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 2: a I know you hate Devin Singletary, I know, but 407 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 2: if he's going to be the only game in town, 408 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 2: one way I think is a good offense. Yeah, you 409 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 2: start single tear. 410 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, Pierre Strong. 411 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 2: I thought Pierce is going to have a big year. 412 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: Yeah I did too. 413 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. I like their line, although the line got all hurt, 414 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 2: but that's not his. 415 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: I mean, Pierre Strong did not practice on Wednesday. He 416 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: has a hamstring. He was in that kind of a 417 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: three headed mix. 418 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 2: I think they like him. I mean they traded for him. 419 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 2: Ford's the guy to own there. 420 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: Though, Ford is the guy to own. Len is a 421 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: round just enough to tick off the Ford owners. 422 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like what it was hunting the game. Yeah, 423 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 2: but that was also a blowout late too. I think 424 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 2: Ford got the more meaningful action. 425 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: David and Joekut not practicing on Wednesday. He's gonna knee. 426 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 2: So that brings me to the question rough year for David. 427 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: Now Deshaun Watson. Everybody was talking about what you know 428 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: he Oh, he's he's back, he's playing. Well, you know, 429 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: who would you start over Deshaun Watson this week? They 430 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: remember they have to go to Baltimore. 431 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 2: Oh many, I mean I'd start, like the the conversation 432 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 2: I started with, I'd start Howe or Kyler over him. 433 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 2: I mean I can't I don't think I'm starting Kenny 434 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 2: or Love over him. How about Levis Levis versus again 435 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 2: against Tampa Bay. Hmm, that's tough. Maybe that's tough. Maybe, 436 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 2: I mean I'm not thrilled to star Watson. 437 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: I might start Kenny over him this week. 438 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 2: I mean, that's a neighborhood Watsons in right now. 439 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: We just saw what they did, what Baltimore did last week. Smith, Yeah, 440 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: it's they're gonna rush the passer. And remember Cleveland's tackles 441 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: are out. The tackles are out. 442 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 2: Yea. So how about like Amary, you probably don't have 443 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 2: anyone batter. 444 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: You probably yeah, you probably almost have to. But I 445 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: would if Amar or tanked Del Del I mean George 446 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: Pickens are tanked or George Pickens or Mari Cooper. 447 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 2: Cooper Okay, yeah, I mean for Fantasy, the numbers with 448 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 2: Johnson scare me with Pickens. But I do think he'll 449 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 2: get more targets this week no matter what. Yeah, I mean, 450 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 2: I think he's a great player. 451 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: Johnson or Collins, Yeah, not Collins, Mark. 452 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 2: Cooper, Cooper Cooper, but any tie I am favoring, not Cooper. 453 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't get that's a bad matchup. 454 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 2: It's in the same tier. It's it's not. 455 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: I mean Metcalf had one catch last week. 456 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, I mean that's a tough team to 457 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 2: play against. There's no doubt, dared what I am about. 458 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 2: On the other side, are you starting a Flowers against 459 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 2: the brown hit won target last week? He's not getting 460 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 2: anything either, and Bateman and Beckham are getting more. But no, 461 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 2: definitely aren't certain. 462 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: I will say this, So the Browns number one against 463 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: opposing tight ends this year, but he still play in 464 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: the first matchup against Baltimore up there, and I remember 465 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 1: Cleveland didn't have a quarterback in that game, but it 466 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: was five for sixty and two touchdowns for Andrews. 467 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 2: This is a strange side note, Andrews. I think you 468 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: start no matter what. I don't care who you know, 469 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 2: I don't care as much about when you look at 470 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 2: you know, making your decisions. Well, they're number one against 471 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 2: tight ends, you know, Like, I think that's not as 472 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 2: sticky as people think, especially earlier in the year, Like 473 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 2: we played Kelsey, Kittle and Hawkinson. 474 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: All their last against tight ends. 475 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 2: They played Marcidan Lewis, you know. Yeah, I mean I 476 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 2: think that position more so than number one vers running 477 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 2: backs quarterbacks receivers isn't as sticky. 478 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Drake London was limited in his turns of 479 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: practice on Wednesday. He's still dealing with that groin injury, 480 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: but it looks like he's trending towards playing. 481 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 2: He's a wide receiver three. But that offense like. 482 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: Again though, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean you probably he's 483 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: probably been starting him. 484 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 2: Say you're probably counting on the start him. Yeah. 485 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: So I like the player a lot, yeah, Arthur Smith, No, it's. 486 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 2: Just a frustrating offense. 487 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: Three top ten picks. He don't give that, give. 488 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 2: Him him, coul Patterson, Right. 489 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it just makes no sense, nonsensical. I don't understand 490 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: why that the owners Arthur Blank is not going in 491 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: and global guy, what are we doing here? 492 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 2: I'd be upset? What are we doing? 493 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: I'm paying these guys top ten money. We use the 494 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: top ten picks on me, you don't utilize them. 495 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 2: Why don't we draft Jaded Carter right whether quarterback? 496 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: They can't all be decoys. 497 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, it's a little bind bogged one. 498 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: Anyways, that's going to do it for the fantasy football focus. 499 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: He is the Matt Williamson I am Dale Lolly, We'll 500 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: be back with more. 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My favorite part of the show. 521 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: Terry Bradshaw or Ben Roethlisberger The longest pass in a 522 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: Steelers game against Green Bay. 523 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 2: Oh, come on, No one on the planet knows that. 524 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 2: I'll go with he threw it more often. Of course 525 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 2: that's wrong. 526 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 1: Think about this for a second, Matt, Why the blonde 527 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: bomber Ben would chuck it around too? Not like that 528 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: though he had more passive and everything back in the 529 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: day was down the field. 530 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 2: On the field, I mean, don't get who do you 531 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,719 Speaker 2: think through the more passes against the Packers who they 532 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 2: play every four years. I'm guessing Ben, But I have 533 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 2: no clue. 534 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean probably, but that was my logic. 535 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 2: Neither ones bashful, Neither ones, Derek Carr, you know, check 536 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 2: down near Alex Smith. 537 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: Oh again, just go to the opposite. 538 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 2: Of whatever Matt I should today. That really should be 539 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 2: the rule from this point. 540 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: Steely Fridge. You can also gear up with the latest 541 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: sideline apparel, hats or jerseys of your favorite players, authentic memorabilia, 542 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: custom items, and exclusives you can only find directly from 543 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: the team at one of the official Steelers pro shops. 544 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 1: They're located at a grocer Stadium, Grove City Premium outlets, 545 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: or Tanger outlets, or visit us online at shop Dottlers 546 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: dot com. You can go get that Deontay Johnson jersey. 547 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 1: Maybe get him to sign my training camp next year, 548 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: or you could win one on. 549 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 2: In chat if you do the opposite of what I say. 550 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 2: All right, honest question for you. We've been in chatting 551 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 2: here for a while. Yes, what do you think my 552 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 2: hit percentage. 553 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: Is about thirty thirty percent? 554 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 2: Okay? By the by your tone, I was going to 555 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 2: guess it's way under fifty percent, no doubt about it. 556 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: I don't usually give away the answers. 557 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 2: Okay, I know, but you can read between the lines. Yeah, 558 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 2: another honest question. What do you think your hit percentage would. 559 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: Be between sixty and seventy percent? 560 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 2: I would have guessed more. Okay, I don't know them all, 561 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 2: but I mean some of them pretty. I mean the. 562 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: Bradshaw versus been longest passing them, I would have burst 563 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: the pack. I would have guessed it was Bradshaw just 564 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 1: because of what I said. They turned the ball deep 565 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: more often back then. 566 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: But as you were saying, but you didn't know that 567 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 2: off top of your head. 568 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: No, it's the top of my head. 569 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 2: I remember the yard other stuff I've off the top of. 570 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: My head, Like you know, there's just thumbers that stick, yeah, yeah, yeah, 571 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: you know. Fourteen ninety two. 572 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 2: Some of them pretty though, you know, like verse of 573 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 2: the Packers don't remember every Steeler Packer game. 574 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: I remember too. I always did you know a package 575 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,959 Speaker 1: where I'd look up previous games. You know, it's some 576 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 1: of my previous stops, and here's a history lesson against 577 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: this team, and I'd look for something interesting, interesting games. Okay, 578 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 1: there we go that. 579 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 2: I remember that long bomber. Yeah. 580 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: Anyways, so interesting conversation with Mitch Trubisky today, and we'll 581 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: play this back in the next segment here, Matt, but yeah, 582 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: I'm slit to hear that we were talking and he said, look, 583 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 1: you know, I said, you know how we're talking about 584 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 1: valuing the football. Pickets only got one fumble this year. 585 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: He's got five in his career in twenty one games, 586 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: which is really good, really good. 587 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 2: If you go back a couple of rewind a few segments, 588 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 2: there's some guys that are like won a game, yeah, 589 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 2: and one every other game, you all right. 590 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: In his last sixteen games, he's starting eleven touchdown passes 591 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: and just six interceptions. You think about, you know, when 592 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: he first broke in the lineup, he had two touchdowns 593 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: and seven interceptions, and in his first five games. Yeah, 594 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: people agains, Well, he just doesn't throw any touchdown passes. 595 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: You didn't throw any interceptions either, So if you're putting 596 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: your team in scoring position, and okay, would you like 597 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: your touchdown passes to be higher? 598 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 2: Oh, of course, of course, and you hope that's coming. Yeah, yeah, 599 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 2: But if. 600 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: You're not throwing interceptions, you're giving your team, you're not 601 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: turning the ball over, You're giving your team, your team 602 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: a chance to win each week. 603 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 2: And there's a fine line here, and this is a 604 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 2: hard way to live, but that's how they have to 605 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 2: live right now, and they're making it work. And I 606 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 2: do think some teams are better at winning one score 607 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 2: games than others, without question, and that type of game, 608 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 2: just like in any sport. I mean, I knew you 609 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 2: were a Pistons fan. Weren't they a real physical, certain brand, 610 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 2: you know? I mean, like I remember the Devil's. 611 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: Growing when they play the Bad Boys. 612 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 2: I bet, I mean, I bet that they were a 613 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 2: certain style. I mean when I watched hockey, they the 614 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 2: Devils will win two to one. You know, it was 615 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 2: like no fun, But that's how you play. Yeah, and 616 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 2: you're gonna kill all their forwards for not scoring enough goals, 617 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 2: you know, not if the're playing defense all the time. 618 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: You know, really that's that's a good comparison between mean, 619 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: what the Steelers are doing in that Devil's neutral zone 620 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 1: trap stuff. Yeah right, right, like, Okay, we're not going 621 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: to score a bunch of points, but neither are you. 622 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 2: And we have a real good goalie, yeah, you know, 623 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 2: and we're going to make his life as easy as 624 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 2: possible too, and probably the first one to two wins. 625 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 2: Yeah right, it's not the most. You don't want them 626 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 2: on your fantasy hockey team, but they. 627 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: Says, boy, they're one of the best teams in hockey. 628 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 2: But well, I think they want a cover or two. 629 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 2: I mean, I know Brodors in the Hall of Fame, 630 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 2: so they were doing something right. 631 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think, you know, it's a style that 632 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: you can play. He'd like to be able to open 633 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: things up a little bit more, but we're talking about that. 634 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,719 Speaker 1: And then he mentioned, you know the way that Mike Sullivan, 635 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: the Steelers quarterbacks coach, gets them to value the football 636 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 1: in the pocket and it. 637 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 2: Has to be stressed from the coaching staff. Yeah, I 638 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 2: mean thoroughly. 639 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 1: And he said, you know, they they view fumbles the 640 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: same way they view interceptions, which is the way I 641 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: do it. 642 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm glad you said, I don't think people 643 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 2: do they count the same. They count the same. 644 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: And I said, really know, if you fumble the football, 645 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: you really got a fifty to fifty chance of recovering it. 646 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean everyone knows I'm big on all that. 647 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 2: I mean, once the ball comes out of your hands, 648 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 2: you have a slightly over fifty percent chance. 649 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 1: Because you know you fumbled it. 650 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 2: You may have been the first one to jump right 651 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 2: on it or you know whatever. But the other thing too, 652 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 2: A fumble is going to be at the line for 653 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 2: a quarterback. In particular, it's gonna be at the line 654 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 2: of scrimmage maybe yeh. Where there's some interceptions they're just 655 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 2: arm punts. You know, it's third and. 656 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,360 Speaker 1: Well, and that's some of the pick His early interceptions 657 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 1: were that if you think about the first one he threw, 658 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: his first thing was on his first pass. But there's 659 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: a deep ball to Chase Claypole, Oh right, uns off 660 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: and the defender picks it off. Another one came on 661 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: a hail Mary. 662 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, those aren't all. Not all interceptions will created the same. 663 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: You know that he threw two in the game against 664 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: the Dolphins in the final four minutes in the end zone, 665 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: trying to get trying to win the game. That's what 666 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: some of his stuff this year has been that, Like. 667 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 2: Levis's interception against you, I'm not gonna kill. 668 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: Him, kill him for that. He's trying to win the game. 669 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's trying to win the game. That's all they 670 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 2: got left. 671 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: Now, there were a couple others earlier in that drive 672 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: you're like. 673 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 2: Oh, no doubt, that's a bad decision or that's a 674 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 2: bad throw or whatever. 675 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: I think the first the first throw of the on 676 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: that series, he was almost an interception on the left 677 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: I can't remember. I think it might. 678 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 2: It seemed like so long ago. 679 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: It might have been Wallace, you know, dropped that one 680 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: on the left side of it a game right there. 681 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: And again then the Titans don't finish with more yards, 682 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: and the Steelers there was another one you know where 683 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: you know they So that stuff happens, you know, in 684 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: those kinds of situations. But by and Largs you look 685 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: at pick it in the fourth quarter, like I I 686 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,479 Speaker 1: didn't go back and take those games out of the equations. 687 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: A one o eight point two passer rating in the 688 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. It's not an accident. We talked about it Monday, 689 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: like he's good at that stuff. 690 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 2: He's good that stuff. And I also think he gathers 691 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 2: information as the game goes on to you know. 692 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: Realizes which throws he can get away with, which ones 693 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: he can't. So there's there's some of that processing as 694 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: well what they're trying to do. 695 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 2: And if you think about it, like how often, I mean, 696 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 2: he's still so young. I'm sure Ben played several defensive 697 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 2: players Luke Keikley, whoever, you know, played him eight times 698 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 2: in his career, and you get to know their tendencies 699 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 2: as opposed to watch them on tape where Kenny like 700 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 2: still the first time I've played that guy first I've 701 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 2: ever seen Fred Warner or whatever it is. You know, 702 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 2: like as you're betting the league a little longer. It's 703 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 2: not a pitcher hitter thing because he's having more, but 704 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 2: at least you understand who your opponents are a little 705 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 2: bit better. 706 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: He also talked about because of valuing the football in 707 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: the pocket, where Sullivan's stresses keeping two hands on the 708 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: football in the pocket or when you're running bad or 709 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: when you're running with the ball. Yeah, Like, how many 710 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: times you see these these quarterbacks they break the pocket 711 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: and they're running with the football out by then. 712 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 2: It makes me crazy. Why are you special? I mean, 713 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 2: if a running back did that, they would get destroyed, 714 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 2: unless you're Walter Peaton. 715 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: Once I get it, when you run up to the 716 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and you still haven't wont a pump. 717 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 2: Fag yeah, yeah, yeah, But once you. 718 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: Cross the line of scrimmage, tuk the damn thing. 719 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 2: Away exactly exactly, yeah, I mean, why tight tight, Jerome 720 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 2: or anybody else. I mean, you're a ball carrier, value 721 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 2: that thing. You're not. 722 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: By the way, most of the guys on the field 723 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: are probably faster. 724 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 2: Than you, absolutely and even more not more incentivized to 725 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 2: hit you. But try to get the ball out coming 726 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 2: in from. 727 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: Behind and ye all kinds of stuff. So I wanted 728 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: to look at the roughing the passer has been. We've 729 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: seen several call this year already, especially in the last 730 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: few weeks. You're like, that's not roughing the passer. So 731 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: I wanted to see if it was up this year. 732 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm curious. 733 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: Because that was one of the things he talked about. 734 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: There's so many defender. Defenders now because of the way 735 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: it's being called, are just coming in and ball searching. Oh, 736 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: they're going for the ball in the pocket. 737 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 2: Because they don't want to get the call. 738 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: They don't want to get called on. 739 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 2: That makes sense. 740 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: We've seen sixty four roughing the passer penalties called through 741 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty six games this year. That's one 742 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: won every four point seven to one game, or four 743 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: point seven one per game, forty seven point. 744 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 2: Per okay, like half one show, I gotcha. 745 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: Last year it was at thirty two point eight percent. 746 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 2: So it's up. It's up ten percent or so. 747 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: Last year there were ninety three roughing the passer penalties 748 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: called in two hundred and eighty four games. The year 749 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: before that though, one hundred and fifty four. 750 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 2: Wow, So last year was. 751 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: The anomaly it was. 752 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 2: Last year was low. 753 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: Last year was way lower than any of the previous years. 754 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 2: So a lot to digest there. My first thought why 755 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 2: last year would be low, It's because the leagues are 756 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 2: going to so much too high stuff maybe and I 757 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 2: bet time to throw came down. Yeah, Like I decided 758 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 2: to get on my hand blitzing as much. You know, 759 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna run around, try to make the big 760 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 2: playdown field. I'm just gonna dump it off and play 761 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 2: that brand. I understand that there's too many flags and 762 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 2: it's unwatchable and makes me crazy. 763 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: The ones that drive me nuts are the ones where 764 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: they're obviously clean. 765 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 2: And you see there's been a couple of bats. 766 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: The one on Kean O'Neil a couple of weeks ago 767 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: was brutal, and the league didn't find him for it, 768 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: so the league's thought that they shouldn't have been a penalty. 769 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 2: All that being said, it's hard on the viewer, but 770 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 2: there's such a shortage of quarterbacks. 771 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: You want to see the quarterbacks protected. 772 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 2: I can understand why the league is doing that, but. 773 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: It's it's also a reason why I fumbles are up. 774 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, if you look at the last quarterbacks there 775 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 2: used to be so. 776 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: Right now we're on pace to have let's see one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, 777 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: eight nine. Ten quarterbacks finished with ten or more fumbles 778 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: this year and they all the quarterbacks are always the 779 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: leaders in fumbles. 780 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,239 Speaker 2: That makes it every year. Yeah, I mean they're getting hit 781 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 2: in compromise position. Last year there were four with ten 782 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 2: or more with ten. 783 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: Or more, and that included Matt Ryan with fifteen and 784 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: twelve games. 785 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 2: You were joking fifteen and twelve games. 786 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, you was just like if you got near if 787 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: a pass rusher got near Matt Ryan last year, he 788 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: just threw the ball in near. 789 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you come out of frankenside outfit and scare them 790 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 2: and think. 791 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: It, get out here, get away from me. 792 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 2: I hit anymore, so I would do. I mean, I'm 793 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 2: not complain him, but yeah. Interesting. So now the fumble 794 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 2: things big and it's part of the Steelers' reasons for winning. 795 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: I think it should be included in quarterback rating. 796 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 2: I don't even know how they colleclate quarterback rating, but 797 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,800 Speaker 2: it should be. It matters. 798 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 1: I mean, if you turn the ball over that many 799 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: times again, you may have I'd love that. I have 800 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: never done this. I've never gone back and looked at 801 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: say Aaron Rodgers all those years when he was throwing two. 802 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 2: Interceptions interceptions, did touchdowns? Yeah, yeah, I don't know. 803 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: I don't think he did. 804 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 2: I don't remember him being a fumbler. There's Brady, a 805 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 2: notorious fumbler that nobody talks about that I don't know. 806 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think Ben was No. 807 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you know there were some years where he 808 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: had more than others, but he. 809 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 2: Also got sackmore nay one in history. There's Brady finally 810 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 2: kind of passed them. 811 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: Which they also should be get taken into considered. The 812 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: sacks are quarterback stat. 813 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 2: They are, but if you have a tear, they are 814 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 2: I think they're fifty. 815 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: It's a fifty to fifty thing. 816 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 2: Same with yards after cat. 817 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: I mean, fumbles can be interceptions can be a fifty 818 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: to fifty thing. Absolutely, quarterback takes all the heat for it, 819 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: but he may not have been at fault. No, I'm 820 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: throwing to a but the receiver went the wrong way. 821 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 1: The receiver ran the we're in the route three yards 822 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: shorter than what he was supposed to. I'm throwing it 823 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: to the depth where he's supposed to be and he 824 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 1: didn't get there. 825 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 2: Or a tipball at the line scrimmage or something like 826 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 2: that too. Yea, So no, you're dead on with thought. 827 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: That's why it's again, Kenny Pickett's a young guy. He's 828 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,439 Speaker 1: not turning the ball over. 829 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:18,760 Speaker 2: That's a fact. 830 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 1: It's a fact fact. And there are other young quarterbacks 831 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: who that is not the case for including the guy 832 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 1: the Steelers will play Sunday. 833 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll talk more Packer Steelers, you know, next two days. 834 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 2: But I think turnovers are going to be a huge, huge, 835 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 2: I mean they always are, but more so than this 836 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 2: game than and there's some disturbing trends if I were 837 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 2: on the Packers side of that. 838 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 1: Absolutely, we're gonna take a break when we come back. 839 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: We will hear those interviews today with Mitch Trubisky and 840 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 1: then Kenny Pickett see what he had to say as well. 841 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: He's Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lallie. You're listening to the 842 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.