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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: I am Dale Lollly. He is Matt Williamson, and this

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Speaker 1: is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. And well, even

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Speaker 1: though the Super Bowl hasn't taken place yet, Matt, everybody

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Speaker 1: is dropping their mock drafts, and our friend Cynthia Freeland

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Speaker 1: has dropped her analytics based first mock draft on NFL

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Speaker 1: dot Com. So I thought we talked about that here

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Speaker 1: to close out the segment or to close out the show. Um,

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Speaker 1: looks pretty chalky here, I haven't. We're gonna be going

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Speaker 1: through this for the first time together on this one,

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Speaker 1: so the city myself cool, this will be interesting. She

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Speaker 1: has the Chicago Bears taking Jalen Carter, the defensive tackle

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Speaker 1: at Georgia. Then she has the the Houston Texans at two,

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Speaker 1: taking Will Anderson, the edge rusher out of Alabama. Okay,

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks falling in Cynthia's draft, Yeah, I see that. Um,

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Speaker 1: just to tease this, you, myself and Mike Pursuit are

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Speaker 1: going to have a mock draft come out next week.

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Speaker 1: So I actually did mind I assume you've done yours already.

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Speaker 1: I have, and I know we don't do that necessarily

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Speaker 1: of who we would take, but if I were one,

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Speaker 1: I would take Carter over Andrew person. You and I

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Speaker 1: haven't had that conversation. Do you have a preference if

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Speaker 1: you were there, I would take. I would take the

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Speaker 1: big body over the edge rusher. Yeah, me too. I

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Speaker 1: think that's um this closer to the football, harder to

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Speaker 1: I would prefer the bigger guy, yeah, I think. And

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Speaker 1: it's easier to find the edge rushers than it is

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Speaker 1: to find big defensive, game changing defensive tackles. I get.

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Speaker 1: So this is interesting is she did it this way?

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Speaker 1: She also has Tyree Wilson, the edge rusher out of

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Speaker 1: Texas Tech, going to the Cardinals. Before a quarterback finally

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Speaker 1: goes at number four, Bryce Young goes to Indianapolis. Where's

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Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett stack up in this class of quarterbacks? Well,

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Speaker 1: I think there's two versions there. A year ago, Kenny

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Speaker 1: Pickett would probably be third for me. The picket that

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Speaker 1: I know I would not trade for anyone in this class.

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Speaker 1: What's kind of the way I feel about it too?

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Speaker 1: what you want. Like, he's better than Will Levis, right,

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Speaker 1: I think Levis and Richardson would behind him. I think

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Speaker 1: better than C. J. Stroud as well. You're talking about

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Speaker 1: the version and the reason. I say that again. You know,

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Speaker 1: the Ohio State quarterbacks have struggled. It's it's it's a

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Speaker 1: real thing. Oh, this class in general scares me quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Bryce Young's the best player in the draft.

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Speaker 1: I think it's very very real. I mean neither one

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Speaker 1: cornerback one. I think Gonzalez is Michael. I like Christian

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Speaker 1: At seven, she has the Raiders taking Pete Scronsky, the

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Speaker 1: four spots that Scronsky could fall into, you know what

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Speaker 1: At nineteen, she has the Buccaneers taking Emmanuel Forbes. He's

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