WEBVTT - #119 - Andy Mineo 0:00:03.480 --> 0:00:08.280 Dagger a bushki A shout out to my guy TK, 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:15.840 Man Tk TK go follow him at TK What is It? 0:00:15.960 --> 0:00:19.239 The Wizard? Hey, welcome to the bluelet Cap podcast. Man, 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:22.079 what's good? You know we talked about my good friend 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:24.959 TK for a second, who happens to be my in 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:28.120 house engineer here at Breddy Says Studios. And it only 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:30.120 makes sense that we talk about TK because he is 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:33.640 a devout Christian and the artist who is on the 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:39.839 podcast today is also a devout Christian. His name is 0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:43.120 Andy Mineo. Shout out to him. He came by the podcast. 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:47.040 We talked about Jesus Christ, amongst other things. He's an 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:50.279 incredible rapper, got a dope just movement going on. Man, 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:53.600 I really respect what he's got going on, and that's 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:57.360 coming from an atheist me, So we chop it up 0:00:58.120 --> 0:00:59.960 and yeah. Shout out to our sponsors. Man. Go to 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:03.440 odd socks Official dot com make sure you go tap 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:05.840 in at Hot odd Socks Get you some socks. Save 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:09.160 twenty percent off by using the promo code Bootleg cavet checkout. 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:12.400 They got the most comfortable socks, the most affordable socks, 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:15.440 really the best socks in the world. And whatever you're 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:17.480 looking for. They got the odd socks basics lines, which 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:20.000 my favorite is sold just it's like walking on clouds. 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:22.320 And they got the crazy designs. 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How often do you get like maneo 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:59.040 or oh, it's butchered every time? What is like the 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:01.800 most annoying renounciation for you, like when people get it 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:05.720 wrong mineo because it sounds like mayonnaise, So you know 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:09.080 that's the one. I'm like, I no respect, no respect, 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:10.920 no respect. At this point, I don't even care. It's 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:13.680 crazy because in one of my one of my bigger 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:16.080 records that went gold, that's say it in the record. 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:21.000 I'm like, it's Mineo. Say it with me, Minio. Okay great. 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:26.080 Uh So you know they're like, I'm a huge fan man, Mineo. 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:28.720 I'm like, you've never heard a song in your life 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:30.440 because you would have at least heard that record. And 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:32.560 I'm happy to hear to hear that you like my 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:35.079 song that went viral on TikTok. Yeah, yeah, that's right. 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:37.440 That's right. I'm happy to hear you like coming in Hot. 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:43.400 That's right. That's right, huge, huge, fucking fit yo. So yeah, 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:45.720 of course, of course. Yeah, we're giving everyone free pubb 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:49.120 big shout out to a mountain. I meant check Ghost Energy, 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:53.000 need to cut that check. So has this been your 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:56.000 first time hitting the road since the world Yeah, fin 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:59.760 ste old panty. This is uh, you know, we actually 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:03.200 had a whole It's funny look on the back of this. 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:05.800 This is like the tour merch that was all the 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:08.000 cities we were supposed to hit, right, but it wasn't that. 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:09.760 It was only like what like eight or something, right 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:12.840 or right now we're only doing nine cities, right, But 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:15.280 on the you know, we had these pressed before the 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:17.760 whole thing shifted gear. But we were gonna do twenty 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:21.360 four cities or something like that. I had a whole band, 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:26.360 and basically what happened is when we started figuring out 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:28.240 what was going on with the mandates, what was also 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:31.040 happening with like if anybody gets sick, what you have 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:33.240 to deal with. We were like, yo, we can't take 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:35.760 this risk because financially, you could just sink yourself. So 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:40.000 it had a full band, and if one person gets sick, 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:42.480 you can't put them on the bus, you can't fly 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:44.600 him home. You have to leave them in that city 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:48.960 for ten days, pay for their hotels, pay them, pay 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:52.000 them their per diem, fly someone new end the same day, 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:54.600 have them learn all the parts, and then pay them. 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:56.880 So now you're paying double triple. And that's only if 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:59.800 one person gets sick. So imagine get right and then 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:02.160 you know that's going to happen, right, somebody get exposed. 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:04.400 So we was like, yo, we can't be out here 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:09.040 paying for thirty hotel you know, nights and doing so. 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:10.960 It just didn't make sense. So we just shrunk the 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:15.520 show down. We limited our exposure down to like seventeen 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:18.760 days on the road instead of forty, right, so if 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:21.120 anyone gets sick by the time, you know, we find out, 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:24.120 hopefully they can be home to quarantine. But everyone's good 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:27.720 so far. Damn. It's weird, man, it's a weird time. 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:29.919 Even the tour too. So that was gonna say, like 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:33.960 I know, like you know, the homies Chris Webby and 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:37.080 Dizzy and Futuristic had of tour that they just canceled 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:39.760 because of all the shit that was going and they 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:42.400 didn't want to deal with the mandates. Chris was like, Yo, 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:46.320 I'm not gonna make nobody. Who's my fan? Get mandyvac 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:49.960 see what I'm saying. So it's weird. Are you vaccinated? 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:52.480 I am? Yep. Yeah, you and me both, we're both 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:55.960 jabbed up. Yeah, I got the h I got ma 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:58.279 and me too. Pfizer poppies in the building. Yeah, my 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:00.960 dog got the Johnson and john And how's he doing 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:03.440 with your life? He's like, I'm barely vas know what 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:06.520 I'm doing now. Yo. The Johnson and Johnson just sounded 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:09.719 good because it was like, so it's just one and done, yeah, 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:12.320 and then everyone and then you grow, you know, a 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:14.400 third eye. So this is what it is. Yo. It's 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:18.000 crazy though, because we were talking like how the mandate 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:19.520 ship mat. I just feel like we're just living in 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:21.359 a very weird time. You were saying, how like some 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:24.039 of your California shows that usually would sell out aren't 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:26.600 selling how they usually would would because because a lot 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:30.360 of your fans are not wanting to adhere to some 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:33.760 of the local policies as far as vaccinations and et cetera. 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:37.040 And a lot of people moved so like you know, 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:40.760 I was saying I was hitting my community, and people, Yeah, 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:42.760 they just like, Oh, I don't even live there no more, Bro, 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:47.159 I'm gone. So this is the strangest selling. But what's 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:49.640 crazy is the rest of the tour has been selling 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:52.440 fun in the Southern states in Florida and Texas all that. 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:55.400 So it's like, I'm like, oh, I think it might 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:59.040 just be Cali on lockdown still, but I don't know. 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:01.960 Who knows. Man, It's just very strange, No, it is, man. 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:04.680 I feel like like like I just every day some 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:07.039 new shit happens and I'm like, are we fucking living 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:10.479 in a simulation? Yeah? Bro, the world has really changed, 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:15.240 and they're firing nurses out here for not getting vaccinated 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:17.640 and they were working during the pandemic. What the fuck 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:20.680 is going on? Like a lot of nurses also not 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:22.960 want to get vaxed. I'm like, there's so many there's 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:25.640 just so many angles. It's like, what is happening? Yeah, 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:28.800 Like why are the like? Yeah, it's just it's it's crazy, bro, 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:32.040 I don't know, boy our boy Kyrie not gonna be 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:35.080 able to play in New York and what's psychotic? You 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:37.719 know what's wild is I don't know if this is true, 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:42.520 but I saw on Twitter someone had said that Michael 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:45.280 Porter Junior is going to be able to play in 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:47.760 New York and he's not getting vaccinated. So when he 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:49.479 comes to New York, he's gonna be able to play, 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:52.680 but they won't like Kyrie play, which would be kind 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:57.920 of wild. Maybe because he's I don't know, maybe because 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:01.640 New York pays him what, you know, he's in different states. 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:05.000 He's going to play different taxes for merch that I sell. 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:07.360 That that might make sense because he's all his tax 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:11.440 money's coming through New York. Maybe maybe the Kyrie shit 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:14.920 is crazy though it is wild. Shout out MPJ. I 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:17.880 did a little MPJ freestyle. He's gonna pop out and 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:20.840 done right next week. Oh really Yeah, it's the homie man, 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:23.480 Michael Porter Junior popping out at the show. Yeah, it's 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:29.360 gonna pop out, und axed, unvaxxed at a show. Might 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:33.280 have to you might be the reason why the Nuggets 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:37.880 have a breakout. He's not coming. He's not coming to 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:40.080 the show. There's the kind of fire if you had 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:42.960 him pull up though. Yeah. I mean he's on my 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:46.520 fantasy basketball team, so okay, perfect. I hope oh you 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:49.200 got him. Yeah. I think a lot of people let 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:51.120 him slip because they were like, he's not vaxed. I'm like, 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:55.040 fuck that. Oh yeah, okay, run me, MPJ baby and 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:58.200 have a breakout your and could definitely hurt your fantasy 0:07:58.240 --> 0:07:59.720 if he gets if you go out for a week, 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:02.600 you know what. It's crazy about it. When I was 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:04.680 talking with MPJ, we did like a I did a 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:08.360 freestyle before the album came, MPJ freestyle. So he jumped 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:10.480 on a live with me. He was talking a little 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:13.840 bit and he said when he actually got COVID right 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:17.560 before the bubble, and what happens is after you get COVID, 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.840 it could take like months for you to get a 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:24.920 negative test, right, So these antibodies hanging around exactly, just hanging. 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:27.320 So he was like, yo, I almost couldn't play in 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:29.800 the bubble because even though I had it a month before, 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:32.720 I couldn't produce a negative test. And so it just 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:34.840 you kept up to get tested every single day until 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:37.800 you finally get that green light. But that's I mean. 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:40.880 I was gonna do some overseas travel this year and 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:43.800 I got COVID and I couldn't reproduce a negative test, 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:45.839 and so we were just like, I can't go to 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:50.720 Italy and then be stuck over there? Are you Italian? Yeah? Yeah, OK, 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:54.079 So I'm like I can't go over there? Are you talking? No? No, No, 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:59.199 I'm just a lot of Caucasidy, German and Irish Russian, 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:03.199 just the kids of Heinzweise. He's got blue eyes. It's 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:08.120 one of this. Yeah, that's what it is. No? What what? 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:10.880 What was? You're just a fan of Michael Porter Jr. 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:13.040 Like how did it? Like? Like, yeah, he came out 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:14.840 to a few of the shows a couple of years 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:17.079 ago as he was getting ready to go to the league, 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:19.400 and we would just kick it when being Denver and 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:24.160 then I had a line in this just like freestyle. 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:26.640 I was writing. I was like, there's a lot of 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:29.360 merried men in the NBA. GOT showed these in Cities 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:32.640 on n DA's love keep your Hand on MPJ dyn 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:34.760 keep his pants on n Behave. I was just like, 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:37.520 I like that. It's like, oh, I should just call 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:40.760 u MPJ freestyle. So I did, and then he just 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:43.880 happened to be the homie. So it's like, Yo, I 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:45.960 named the song after you, and he's like, you know, 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:49.640 promoted it, jumped on IG Live. But yeah, it kind 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:52.480 of just happened that way. You're obviously a big basketball guy, 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:54.880 are you. Are you a Knicks fan or what's your team? 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:58.440 So this is strange. I'm actually none of them. None 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:00.800 of my teams are from New York, even though I'm 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.960 from New York. Right, I'm a Utah Jazz fan. Are 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:08.960 you Mormon? Yes? One hundred Mormon? Uh to me in 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:11.640 my seventeen wives, No, shout out to the Mormons out there, 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:16.760 choose the right. Yeah, nah, I just I grew up 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:21.000 Stockton Malone. That's an interesting uh horn of sack. You 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:22.840 know what? Always it was be a kid growing up 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:24.400 the same time we grew up in to be like, 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:27.160 you know what, HORNI sacks stocked in? Those are my guys, 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:29.840 you know, yeah, yeah, you got Jordan dunkan Off, yeah 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:31.480 right right, right right, yeah, you know what it was. 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:34.880 It was just like one I like their jerseys, the 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:37.800 Utah Jazz, Like the jerseys were fired and they have 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:40.320 music notes on all and then it was just like 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:45.800 seeing these unassuming high shorts, white dude balling out. I 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:48.640 was just like, Wow, I have a chance. Yeah, I 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:51.320 have a chance. Maybe I can make the league. So 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:54.560 seeing stocked in it was always so funny. I'll hear 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:56.720 these stories about John Stockton. It would just make me 0:10:56.760 --> 0:11:00.640 crack up. So like Gary Payton would try to like 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:04.200 get in Stockton's head right and he's like, uh, He's 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:06.640 like I banged your mom last night on the court 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:08.800 and stocked him and just be like she's a great lady. 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:12.320 Just run up there, yo, Like just wouldn't let people 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:15.679 into Psyche's a great leg. And he's like, oh, I'm 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:18.679 gonna shove a banana up here, and he's like tons 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:21.080 of protein and tons of potassium and just run up 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:24.000 the cart. I'm like, Yo, this dude is just And 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:28.160 then he would walk around for the uh uh. The Olympics, 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:29.880 and no one would bother him. I'm just like an 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:33.640 unassuming no. He always would have a little collared shirt on. Yeah, 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:36.800 just balling out. I just always thought that was so funny. So, 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:39.840 so you're a Jazz fan, that's like your number one team. Yeah. 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:41.719 I mean, but I'm gonna keep it a buck. I 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:45.120 don't follow that, are you okay? You know what I'm saying. 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:46.880 It's just like I'll catch a game here and there, 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:50.840 but it's kind of that's my childhood team, and and 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:52.800 so I stick with them. It's like Green Bay Packers 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:55.720 on my football team. But I had to do with 0:11:55.840 --> 0:12:00.400 like Farve the Lambeau leap, cheese on your head. It 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:02.520 was like I was watching the game with my sister 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:04.040 when I was a kid, and they did the Lambo leap. 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:05.920 I was like, why they why they jumping in the crowd. 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:08.280 She's like, that's what they do at Lambo. I was like, 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:10.480 it's like a stage dive right right. I was like, 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:12.280 why they got cheese on their heads? Like they produced 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:14.320 a lot of I was like, that's it. That's my man. 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:16.400 He's gonna have a square on you. Like, that's so 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:20.720 crazy to me. So Hey, shout out to the packers 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:23.160 and uh and to uh the the jazz of Utah. 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:27.040 That's it. Yeah, shout out them like yeah pirates how 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:30.280 like their logo? So weird kid? How was uh you 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:32.679 do you go to Utah on tour? No? We got 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:34.440 an off day coming up on our way to Denver, 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:39.320 stop in, stop in the Salt Lake save what's up 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:43.680 to some of the the Mormon homies, absolutely Mormon homies 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:46.760 and their six wives. Uh. Yeah, we're gonna try to 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:48.320 get an off day. I mean, they're all gonna get 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:51.360 their own planets, by the way too, when they die. 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:53.760 Is that in the contract I grew I grew up 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:57.440 in Mesa, Arizona, which is the second largest Mormon population 0:12:57.520 --> 0:12:59.839 in the world. So yeah, it's pretty wild. Yeah. Where 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:02.120 do you land on religion stuff these days? I'm an 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:05.559 atheist atheist? Yeah, you're like, Okay, I just want to 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:08.080 ask you because I hear people call you a Christian rapper, 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:13.440 and I listen to your music and obviously there's like 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:17.160 like stuff in there that's like godly right like lines. 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:19.840 But it's not like I don't look at you that way. 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:21.160 I just look at you as like a rapper who 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:23.960 happens to be a Christian as opposed to be in 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:25.840 like a because you know, when I grew up, man 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:30.360 Christian rappers corny as fuck, and I feel like La 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:32.080 Craze was like the first guy to come along to 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:35.200 be like, oh no, he's just dope. But he also, 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:37.280 you know, is obviously like how do you do you 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:39.920 consider yourself like quote unquote Christian rapper or is that 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:43.480 something that you embrace well for It's an interesting commo 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:47.120 because for years I've just tried to like just be like, yo, 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:49.040 can I just be a rapper and be a part 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:51.040 of the community, because I always felt like in some 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:56.080 way in hip hop, to be called something before your title, 0:13:56.720 --> 0:14:01.800 like a female rapper, a gay whatever, a Christian so 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:06.199 you know, gender orientation or religion, anything those that preceded title, 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:08.880 it always feels like it marginalizes, like right away people 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:11.840 already have yeah, so it's like, oh, that's a female rapper, right, 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:15.120 you know, it's all those things. So I tried to 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:17.280 just be like, man, I feel like I'm just a 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:19.480 part of hip hop, but I am a Christian, So 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:22.280 I would never deny being a Christian, right, just be 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:26.880 like that title it's a weird It's a weird conversation 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:29.440 because people be like, oh, yeah, we'll play you on Sunday. 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:32.920 Then you know, on the radio, you're like, what I take. 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:36.440 I took a meeting one time. One of my albums, 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:38.400 the first Neverland, it was like doing really well on 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:40.480 the charts. I took a meeting at this is fifty 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:43.520 and fifty cent was there and so I walked by him. 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:45.360 I was like, yo, what's up? Man? He was like 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:49.320 lifting weights and he was like, you know, didn't give 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:51.080 me no time. He was like yeah, yeah, what up? 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:52.800 And then his man was like, yo, he got the 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:55.080 number one album on iTunes right now. And then he 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:57.800 was like, oh, word, coming to my office right. So 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:01.560 I ended up hanging out with fifty for like two hours. Random. 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:04.360 I'm like, I looked at my manager. I was like, yo, 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:07.200 I'm gonna go in the office. Yeah, And I went 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:09.640 in and he just started asking me questions because you 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:11.600 know at that time, like he's just a smart dude. 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:13.000 He wants to learn. So he's like, you had a 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:16.040 number one album, like what's going on? Starts asking me 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:18.680 all these questions. I start telling them about this. I'm like, yo, 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:24.800 When I first started, like, you know, ten years plus 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:29.800 years ago, I had some very explicitly Christian bars. I 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:33.160 was juiced up about my relationship with Jesus, you know, 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:37.920 so I think that's where that initial thing comes from, 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:39.040 you know what I'm saying. And a lot of my 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:43.560 core fans share those same ideals, right, so you get that. 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:45.760 But over the years, just my sound, my view, the 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:49.960 way I approach things has evolved. And so anyways, when 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:51.400 I was talking with him, he was like, yeah, bro, 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:55.000 people are going to try to if you continue basically like, 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:57.000 if people continue to see you that way and just 0:15:57.040 --> 0:15:58.560 not a part of hip hop, they're going to try 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:02.000 to marginalize you to the Gospel Hour on Sunday or something, 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:04.040 you know what I'm saying. And I was like, oh man, 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:07.320 that was never my intention. But at the end of 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:10.120 the day, I've just let go of trying to control 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:13.000 that narrative to a degree because it's like, you're just 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.240 gonna do you and like people feel how they feel. 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:16.960 That's it. Man, at the end of the day, you 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:21.000 can't really control it. And it's also it's like when 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:23.760 you tell people, hey, man, I don't really call myself that, 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:27.960 then that becomes the headline of the interview, and it 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:29.760 just it's a circle, you know what I'm saying. So 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:31.920 I'm like, whatever y'all want to call it, is the 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:35.520 music dope. I was like, like, I think, like, you know, 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:37.440 if you think of Kanye when he first came out, 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:40.040 like you know, outside of his mixtape shit, but you know, 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:42.560 if we think of Jesus walks like yeah, Jesus. Like, 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:44.760 people didn't look at Kanye as like a Christian rapper. 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:46.200 They just looked at him as like, oh shit, this 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:49.040 is a rapper that's did a song about Jesus. This 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:51.440 is different. And it was hard because I think up 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:54.680 until that song, any songs about God and like hip 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:57.080 hop were always like I remember, you know, I grew 0:16:57.160 --> 0:17:00.520 up around a bunch of hardcore Christians that used to 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:02.560 have Channel twenty one on in Phoenix, which was like 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:06.720 the Christian channel, and it would be the wackiest fucking music. Really, 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:10.679 Oh my gosh. There was some guy named damn it. 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:13.800 What was the guy's name, Carmen, I don't know. There 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:15.879 was this dude I got that's like, do you know 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:17.840 what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about? 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:21.080 I do? And then Kirk Franklin obviously was like, you 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:22.879 know who kind of crossed over a bit. You know, 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:25.280 he did gospel and then he had some he put 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:28.280 some rap stuff in there. Yeah, Like what's it? I 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:31.280 was going to ask you, like for you, like do 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:34.760 you what you collabor like, like do you kind of 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:36.919 watch who you collaborate with if they don't kind of 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:39.320 align with like where you are? Well? Yeah, I think 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:42.280 like as just a as a man with principles, like 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:45.240 I want to create the way I want to create 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:48.000 art is I have some brand filters for myself. I 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:50.960 always want to make things that I think are incredibly dope, 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:54.040 artistically excellent, but I also want things that are wholesome, 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:56.640 you know what I'm saying. So, like, you don't cuss 0:17:56.640 --> 0:18:01.240 in your music, right? Nah? I don't. I saw music 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:04.359 as like a dividing something that like divided me and 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:07.679 my my family. And at a certain point time, you know, 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:09.440 I get in the car on my cannabis, cit'd be 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:11.560 broken in half for you know what I'm saying. So 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:13.600 my mom just was like, nah, you can't play it. 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:16.280 She just didn't, you know, when you're fourteen fifty appreciate 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:21.400 it retarded. Yeah, she didn't she did. But now it's 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:24.320 a great song by the way it is. It's it's 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:29.920 not PC anymore, right, and word nometry yes and second 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:34.000 round ko. So yeah, but now it's it's cool to 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:35.879 see the music that I make is able to bring 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:38.640 people together. I'll see, like at a show, a guy 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:40.439 will be there and he'll bring his son. He's like, 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:42.639 this is my twelve year old son. It's his first 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:45.280 concert ever and we get to come and do this together. 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:48.560 You know, that's crazy. So yeah, when I go to 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:53.320 do collaborations like I've done, you know, I've had collaborations 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:55.720 with people from all different walks of life and world views. 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:57.800 But we just try to make sure that when we 0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:00.639 create something, we create something that your fan be aligned with. 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:02.840 You know what I'm saying, Like, there's middle ground, there's 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:05.639 there's stuff we can create. So Fonte just jumped on 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:09.160 the record and we did something that was great. So yeah, 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:11.360 little brother man one of the greatest. I just had 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:15.440 a conversation with Looke from Dreamville about because his manager's 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:21.120 big pooh, oh my gosh, they moved. Yeah, So he's 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:23.160 got a little brother on this album, the Dreamville album 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:25.000 that just came out, Gold Mouth and I was like, 0:19:25.600 --> 0:19:28.439 he's from North Carolina. I was like, you realize how 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:31.800 big of a deal that is? M He's like, bro, Honestly, 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:33.680 I didn't really even fucking know about a Little Brother 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:36.800 until like six years ago, and then I started working 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:39.480 with Pooh. You know, he really hadn't like tapped into 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:41.840 the music, but little Brother. Yeah, Fante, how'd you link 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:44.680 up with Fante? I just hit him on Twitter? You're 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:46.760 just a fan? Right? Yeah. I was just working on 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:51.560 this last project and I was like, oh, Fante would 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:53.800 sound crazy on this. Actually, Dell, my manager, was like 0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:57.359 I think he'd I was like, oh yeah, just shoot 0:19:57.359 --> 0:19:59.680 my shot. Most of a lot of the connections of 0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:01.480 relations have you've just been that and then you find 0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:04.359 out somehow that they're a fan of you. Listen, like 0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:09.800