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Speaker 1: Welcome to Malik's book show, bringing a world together with books,
Speaker 1: culture and community. This has been a wonderful community week.
Speaker 1: So hey, I'm your host. I'm a leak, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna bring to you and inspired, revolutionary, inspirational, motivating episode
Speaker 1: called I Read to See Me. It was a community
Speaker 1: event then focused on multicultural children books and I got
Speaker 1: a chance to stomp the ground and talk to so
Speaker 1: many wonderful authors that attended the event. I also was
Speaker 1: able to talk to the producer of the event as
Speaker 1: of as the host, the Cown State University Dean Dr
Speaker 1: Julianna Marvel, and she put on this event in conjunction
Speaker 1: with all the ethnic study departments to bring a multi
Speaker 1: culture event card I Read to See Me because representation matters.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna bring that inspiring conversation with so many
Speaker 1: different authors as well as the producer and director. Now
Speaker 1: I'm gonna spread it out over the next two weeks. Also,
Speaker 1: ain't continuation of the Bomber Shop talk that I started
Speaker 1: last week. I'm bringing part two of that conversation because
Speaker 1: it was a very very lefty conversation, but yet very timely,
Speaker 1: and these brothers had a lot to say, and they
Speaker 1: spoke in mind. And when I'm interviewing, I'll let you
Speaker 1: speak your mind. I'll let you bring your thoughts. I'm
Speaker 1: not here to um debate you on your position. I
Speaker 1: just want to year your position. You know. That's what
Speaker 1: this is all about. It's a dialogue, you know, not
Speaker 1: a monologue. So I'm here to help other authors speak
Speaker 1: their truth and so forth. There are times when I
Speaker 1: speak my truth and what I think. But so, hey,
Speaker 1: so enjoy this episode. And it's called I Read to
Speaker 1: see Me. Okay, I'm with the professor here at Kyle St.
Speaker 1: L A. The person hosting this event here at cow
Speaker 1: State l A. Julie and mart vote right, Dr Julian
Speaker 1: Man of the College of Ethnic Studies here at caw
Speaker 1: say l A. So, this is a project of the
Speaker 1: College of Ethnic Studies. We have three departments reporting to us.
Speaker 1: I have Pan African Studies, to Kindo Latina Studies, and
Speaker 1: Asian Asian American Studies. And so the purpose of doing
Speaker 1: a multicultural book fair was again all my departments together
Speaker 1: to work on what we have in common. Young people's
Speaker 1: litter and seen absolutely and this is a wonderful simply
Speaker 1: of authors. Then I'm witnessing the day and on this
Speaker 1: podcast you're gonna hear a lot of them because I've
Speaker 1: been on the stump interviewing them. But I got the dean,
Speaker 1: the director, the host, so you know, speak on what
Speaker 1: you hope to accomplish from such an event like this.
Speaker 1: There are three things that I wanted to do. Number one,
Speaker 1: I wanted to have more visibility for the College of
Speaker 1: Ethnic Seties were only two years old. I'm the inaugural dan.
Speaker 1: I'm the first dean that started in June of one,
Speaker 1: so I want people to know about us. Number Two,
Speaker 1: I want young people to know about us when we
Speaker 1: talk about education. You know, we often talk about the
Speaker 1: number of young people who don't go to college. But
Speaker 1: if we expose of the college, when there's five, six, seven,
Speaker 1: you see the little ones running around, they go, they go,
Speaker 1: I want to go back there. And so even though
Speaker 1: we're playing to see that might not blossom for ten
Speaker 1: twelve years, we still want to plant the seed. And
Speaker 1: if they don't come to say that we want them
Speaker 1: to go somewhere to somebody's college. And then third, our
Speaker 1: multicultural authors are important and need to be lifted up
Speaker 1: and recognized, and that's why we invited so many. We
Speaker 1: actually also, as you know, giving out free two books
Speaker 1: to the first young people who come and they can
Speaker 1: pick their book based on their age, and they can
Speaker 1: pick there, but we got a whole table books there
Speaker 1: for them to pick. So it was really visibility for
Speaker 1: the college, basically intersectionality and visibility for our authors. How
Speaker 1: important is representation? Representation is everything? I think back, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm of a certain age. Um. Actually, I ain't shy.
Speaker 1: I turned sixty nine on September twenty two. I tell
Speaker 1: it because I don't look at. If I looked at
Speaker 1: I wouldn't tell it. But but but I remember back
Speaker 1: to elementary school where we didn't have representation. I remember
Speaker 1: the fifth grade history class where they had two act
Speaker 1: people in the book Um. One looked like she had
Speaker 1: escaped from a bunch of mama's box and the other
Speaker 1: would look like Uncle Ben and uh, the teacher had
Speaker 1: the nervo to talk about happy slaves. Um. Blessedly, my
Speaker 1: parents were both educators, and I read everything we had
Speaker 1: the house. UM My mom recently passed and I inherited
Speaker 1: her five thousand books. I have to figure out what
Speaker 1: to do with all of them. But representation is critical
Speaker 1: and this I think here's I read to see me.
Speaker 1: When a young person sees a book that reflects them,
Speaker 1: it incites them, it inspires them to that I can
Speaker 1: do this too. And so representation is so important, always
Speaker 1: saying when you look at when a person look at
Speaker 1: the picture, the first thing they look for is themselves exactly,
Speaker 1: you know. And I think our young people want to
Speaker 1: be reinforced in their presence in the world. And that's
Speaker 1: why we're here, and we appreciate all you know. Now,
Speaker 1: just you've been activists for quite some time, oh your
Speaker 1: whole life, and you've written some books. Yeah, so tell
Speaker 1: us about your landmark book. I believe it's called well,
Speaker 1: I have several, but my favorite book love their all favorite,
Speaker 1: but Surviving and Thriving three sixty Facts and Black Economic History.
Speaker 1: I described it as a love note to my people.
Speaker 1: We've reissued it with a forward by Roland Martin. Um
Speaker 1: it'll be out on shelves probably the next month or so,
Speaker 1: but we reprinted it Uh, the three D sixty five
Speaker 1: facts have not changed, but our relationship to their house
Speaker 1: have not changed. So what we're gonna do about that.
Speaker 1: We're gonna keep struggling. We gotta keep working. We're gonna
Speaker 1: keep right. That's all we can do. That's all we
Speaker 1: can do. Hey, we do not accept and we do
Speaker 1: not accept the marginalization of black people. We do not
Speaker 1: accept it. No, never, never give up, never except We're
Speaker 1: not a pon exactly. Thank you, thank you, thank you,
Speaker 1: appreciate you and all these you've done and continue to do,
Speaker 1: and we just love you and keep up with good work.
Speaker 1: Malik Books is at a children's festival out here at
Speaker 1: Coyle Stay l A. That's what's happening in the community.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a big celebration of books and people
Speaker 1: and love and peace in the world of books. We
Speaker 1: got a lot of books, children books here. We've got
Speaker 1: a lot of children authors here. And you know what
Speaker 1: I do best. I get on the stump and I
Speaker 1: talked to the authors because this is Malik's book show,
Speaker 1: bringing a world together with books, culture and community. So
Speaker 1: we're here and I'm gonna have an opportunity. The first
Speaker 1: interview I have an author named Zena Plisky say it again, Zena,
Speaker 1: here you go. Okay, okay, hello, Little One. A modernarch
Speaker 1: butterfly story. It's a beautiful book about the life of
Speaker 1: a butterfly. But hey, I got the author, so she
Speaker 1: gonna tell you all about it. Well, this is a
Speaker 1: this is a book about intergenerational friendship. It's a book
Speaker 1: about the monarch caterpillar. Really, once a friend meets the
Speaker 1: monarch butterfly in a two week window, in the two
Speaker 1: weeks that they can actually hang out together because the
Speaker 1: lifespans of both the very small short um and so
Speaker 1: they so they the younger. Uh, it's youth meets age
Speaker 1: and age meets youth and they share what they both
Speaker 1: their both their life perspectives with each other um and
Speaker 1: then they move on to the next cycle, the next
Speaker 1: part of their cycle. This sounds very educational. So we
Speaker 1: got a two, got a calipar and a blafly. They
Speaker 1: both wanted the same the other one just already met
Speaker 1: meta what's the word metamorphosis? Metamorphosis and the little calipillar
Speaker 1: hasn't gone through that process yet. So tell us what
Speaker 1: kids can really learn from reading this book? I think
Speaker 1: they can learn about about mentors and intergenerational friendship. And
Speaker 1: it's a life cycle book, and so of course at
Speaker 1: the end of life cycles is death. And so it's
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a Greek like for your
Speaker 1: parents that need a book to talk gently about grief
Speaker 1: and losing an elder um transformation, wormason and also being
Speaker 1: in the moment right being like each each both of
Speaker 1: them share with each other, the younger verse, the younger
Speaker 1: shares with the older, and the older shares with the younger,
Speaker 1: and it's about that you know the deep respect that
Speaker 1: two generations can have for each other and learn one wonderful,
Speaker 1: wonderful This is an extremely beautiful book, illustrated, wonderfully story
Speaker 1: written beautifully. Thank you Xena for this opportunity interview you,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, thank you. Mollie. Okay, okay, this
Speaker 1: event is festive with authors festive and I have busin
Speaker 1: him now. He wrote a book called Alex Good Fortune,
Speaker 1: another book called Little Ce and I'm gonna let him
Speaker 1: tell you about his book. Hi, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for having me. Um So alex is Good Fortune is
Speaker 1: about different ways to celebrate the lunar New Year, and
Speaker 1: it was inspired by my family growing up and all
Speaker 1: the little traditions that we do. So everyone celebrates very
Speaker 1: different a little bit differently. So I hope people that
Speaker 1: read it will add a little tradition to their lunar celebration. Wonderful,
Speaker 1: wonderful it is. That's the one called Alex Good Fortune, Okay,
Speaker 1: And then what does what is Little Seed about? So?
Speaker 1: Little Seed I want to talk about how, you know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of different ways to show love, a
Speaker 1: lot of different ways to hug and the book kind
Speaker 1: of touches upon some people love to be embraced and hugging,
Speaker 1: some people don't, and that is okay. So it's kind
Speaker 1: of like touching the baseline of what is paying respect
Speaker 1: really to each other and having that respect. And that's
Speaker 1: what Little Seeds about. Are these the only books you
Speaker 1: have authored? No? I also have another book called Alex
Speaker 1: with the Great Kaiju, And so that one is about
Speaker 1: a little Kaiju. So an example of Kaiju. It's Godzilla
Speaker 1: and all godzalas we know destroy everything in sight. But
Speaker 1: Aso's superpower is not a fire of destruction, but of flowers.
Speaker 1: So how can you destroy using flowers? Or does he
Speaker 1: want to? So the idea is that how do you
Speaker 1: stay true to yourself even though you have this expectations
Speaker 1: of family and society of to be a true destroyer,
Speaker 1: but in your heart you actually want to bring joy
Speaker 1: to your city and not destruction. Three books, three different storylines,
Speaker 1: very creative. It's I guess you got some more it works.
Speaker 1: I do thank you for asking. I do have a
Speaker 1: sequel to ans you the Great Credu called as you
Speaker 1: the Great Listener, and that one is really about um
Speaker 1: in the phase of sadness. Sometimes one of the most
Speaker 1: important things we can do is to listen to each
Speaker 1: other and respect each other that way, and that's what
Speaker 1: that story is about. Well, hey Benson, thank you for
Speaker 1: sharing with my audience on League Book Show about all
Speaker 1: of your wonderful books and upcoming Thank you appreciate it. Ashley,
Speaker 1: you can't bring me no books without being on my
Speaker 1: podcast Good Morning Love. So you're gonna have to talk
Speaker 1: to a straight actually about what is this book on
Speaker 1: the Boss He is a novel, So talk to me
Speaker 1: about this Leik's Book Show. Audists want to know good
Speaker 1: Morning Love. I love it. So Good Morning Love is
Speaker 1: a story about Carly Hinton. She's an inspiring songwriter. Um,
Speaker 1: chasing after she's stuck between a job and a dream, right, so,
Speaker 1: trying to pursue songwriting but working full time in New
Speaker 1: York City. Um, she meets Tyle Anderson, who's a rising
Speaker 1: R and B star, and things get a little choppy.
Speaker 1: Her calculated world gets thrown into a frenzy when he's
Speaker 1: a client of her media agency and it's his book one.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be a sequel. This is book one,
Speaker 1: is my debut novel. Um, and we'll see. I mean,
Speaker 1: let's talk to Simon and Schustair about whether we want
Speaker 1: to hear more about Carly and Tal because I'm sure
Speaker 1: it's more to it, you know. Now, this is for
Speaker 1: all adults. Yeah, so this is an adult book. But
Speaker 1: I will say that when I was a teenager in
Speaker 1: high school, I read books like these. But it does
Speaker 1: land under adult fiction. Um, so it has a you
Speaker 1: know a little bit more kind of meat, a bit
Speaker 1: to it. But um, I think that if you trust
Speaker 1: your older teens, they could probably get into it as
Speaker 1: wacause we get a lot of teams they come in
Speaker 1: and read like it's just a soldier bo coats. Whenever
Speaker 1: they said I read that in high school and then
Speaker 1: you know that baby is real graphic, but it's relatable
Speaker 1: and and it leads generations. And I know that you know,
Speaker 1: you wrote your book to reach you know, audience, and
Speaker 1: hopefully yours can reach generations. And I just want to
Speaker 1: know a little about about you, Ashley, as an upcoming
Speaker 1: new writer. Sure. So, I mean, for me, I've worked
Speaker 1: in plus ures in the music industry. So I'm a
Speaker 1: director at the Recording Academy which puts on the Grammys,
Speaker 1: um and also a writer. So this book really chronicles
Speaker 1: a lot behind the music industry. Um. So it's a
Speaker 1: great kind of collide of my world because I also freelance, right,
Speaker 1: so I've written for The Cut and Essence dot Com, etcetera.
Speaker 1: Um So this is like a good mashup of my
Speaker 1: two worlds, working in music and also writing. You just listen,
Speaker 1: you got a little background story here to you. You
Speaker 1: can feel the fire as a writer. You aren't starting
Speaker 1: from the pits as a writer. You're coming from the
Speaker 1: entertainment world and you have started you in position and
Speaker 1: so you jumping into the literary world. It seemed like
Speaker 1: a great fit. So how has it been as a
Speaker 1: you know, cross sleeping into another industry. Well, I feel
Speaker 1: like it's been humbling, right because I do have a
Speaker 1: very full of robust career with the music. But no
Speaker 1: one knows you when you're a debut author, right, So
Speaker 1: it's really still a grind and still just telling people
Speaker 1: about your work and what you do and trying to
Speaker 1: get connect with the people who you know will really
Speaker 1: benefit from reading a book. So absolutely, absolutely thank you
Speaker 1: Ashley for sharing with Melik's bookshelf audience, and we hope
Speaker 1: to continue our relationship as you evolved as a writer.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. I'm here with Angela Shante. She
Speaker 1: got a few books she wrote When My Cousin Comes
Speaker 1: to Town. Okay, that's one her latest coming up, Sunday Dinner,
Speaker 1: and I got the pleasure of being able to talk
Speaker 1: to her about her books and her publishing company. I
Speaker 1: believe it's called Sunday Dinner Publishing. So Shante, welcome to
Speaker 1: Malik's Book Show. Bringing a world together with books, culture
Speaker 1: and community. Than wonderful. So I just we're gonna jump
Speaker 1: right into to us about your books and your publishing company. Sure,
Speaker 1: so my books are picture of ugs um that feature highlight, black, joyous, stories,
Speaker 1: the first one being The Noisy Classroom, which came out
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. It's about unruly teacher, unruly classroom and
Speaker 1: UH school change. It's it's my project. And the second
Speaker 1: book for that series is coming out next year. It's
Speaker 1: called When My Cousins Comes Sorry, The Noisy Classroom Goes
Speaker 1: to the Museum and again all about inquiry based UH
Speaker 1: fun times in school UH non traditional learning. Have another
Speaker 1: book called Sunday Dinner, which is published underneath my publishing company,
Speaker 1: Sunday Dinner Publishing UM, where we highlight inclusive stories and
Speaker 1: we work with specifically with bipod creatives in publishing to
Speaker 1: make sure that they have space and voice and are
Speaker 1: getting paid. UM. My last my last book that came
Speaker 1: out last year, When My Cousins Come to Town, is
Speaker 1: all about cousin culture, Black cousin culture, UM and how
Speaker 1: we get our nicknames and it being kind of like
Speaker 1: a badge of honor. So the little girl in the book,
Speaker 1: she doesn't have a nickname. She's the only cousin without
Speaker 1: a nickname, and she UM, she does a couple of
Speaker 1: like trying on her cousin's nickname and pretending to be
Speaker 1: in them but really, you know, in black culture, it's
Speaker 1: about just being yourself. And so that's how she gets
Speaker 1: her nickname at the end of the story after they
Speaker 1: watched The Whiz because you know that's that's my favorite movie. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: most books are written they touched right at home about
Speaker 1: something about self or things that we like or desire.
Speaker 1: So that's wonderful, wonderful. So right now, how many books
Speaker 1: have you published. I've published as an author for titles.
Speaker 1: One was published was Scholastic. That's a nonfiction book about
Speaker 1: the nineteen sixty three civil rights movement. I've published three
Speaker 1: other titles UM with West Margin Press. UM, and I
Speaker 1: have four titles soon to be seven titles on the
Speaker 1: Sunday Dinner Publishing. Our first adult title and first chapter
Speaker 1: book are coming out next year. UM, and our fairy
Speaker 1: book just published the beginning of this month. This Carse
Speaker 1: We're off to find a fairy. Wow. Wow, Wow, you're
Speaker 1: doing a big time, you know. And um, you went
Speaker 1: from being an author to now having your own publishing
Speaker 1: company and that it is wonderful And so what um
Speaker 1: inspired you to want to open your own publishing company. Well,
Speaker 1: I've been in publishing for a while. I used to
Speaker 1: work as a content writer at educational publishing companies. I
Speaker 1: worked as an editor. Now I'm an author, so I've
Speaker 1: seen the front, the back, the ugly, the good of publishing,
Speaker 1: and I do know that there are not enough opportunities
Speaker 1: for marginalized voices and publishing and I wanted to be
Speaker 1: a part of the solution. So at Sundays in a
Speaker 1: publishing we specifically seek out inclusive stories, marginalized stories, lgbt
Speaker 1: Q stories, um and we worked with bipart Creative so
Speaker 1: that they are being paid fairly and that they have
Speaker 1: an avenue for you know, showcasing. There's their voices and
Speaker 1: their art. So yeah, I started it because there was
Speaker 1: a need, you know. And that's what I'm doing. Be
Speaker 1: about it, not talk about it. That's what I'm talking about. Action,
Speaker 1: speak louder than work. Don't be the problem, be the solution.
Speaker 1: And I love the fight. Did you stepped up instead
Speaker 1: of complaining about the lock of representation. You went out
Speaker 1: here and started a publishing company and now you're publishing
Speaker 1: books by yourself and other people to speak voice loudly
Speaker 1: because we know that Malique book, we give voice to
Speaker 1: the voice. So hey, I'm with all of that. I'm
Speaker 1: tired of people talking and complaining, but they gotta step
Speaker 1: up and do something instead of talking about it. And
Speaker 1: that's what I love see because you the minute you
Speaker 1: said that, oh, I got the goat in all that.
Speaker 1: I love this energy. I love this energy. Yes. So
Speaker 1: if you're out there and you want to support us,
Speaker 1: follow us on Sunday thenner pub on Instagram and Twitter.
Speaker 1: If you want to follow my journey, I'm author Angela
Speaker 1: Shawntay on Instagram and Facebook. Yes, just connects. Send me
Speaker 1: a d M. If you want to work on something
Speaker 1: cool together. Thank you, thank you, thank you. You heard it.
Speaker 1: Love at I read to see me children event out
Speaker 1: here at Cow's Day l A whoa it up on
Speaker 1: another one. Her name is Angela Dalton. Her book is
Speaker 1: Show the World. It's beautiful illustration, beautifully done. But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna let her talk to you about the book. How
Speaker 1: y'all doing? Thank you for having me. It is good
Speaker 1: to finally see you in person. So blessed to see you.
Speaker 1: Thank you. So. Show the World is my new book
Speaker 1: that just came out this year. It is my love
Speaker 1: letter to the brown and black children of Oakland, California
Speaker 1: and their creativity and their engineity, ingenuity and all that
Speaker 1: they put into the world, and to tell them we
Speaker 1: see you, we appreciate you. Please keep doing and showing
Speaker 1: us what you can do, because we need to see you.
Speaker 1: We need to see you out there. And I want
Speaker 1: children to know I see you. And that's why I
Speaker 1: write books, because I see children not just their hair,
Speaker 1: not just their bodies, but I see their entire selves
Speaker 1: and I want to celebrate that. And this is not
Speaker 1: the only book you have. You have another book. Tell
Speaker 1: us about some of your other books and the No One.
Speaker 1: They are about to come out in January. Yes, I
Speaker 1: would love too, So yes, I have two other books.
Speaker 1: Ruby's Reuni Day Dinner, which is all about soul food,
Speaker 1: a love letters to the cooks of my family who
Speaker 1: made soul food Reunion Day dinners every every year and
Speaker 1: bringing them all together celebrating family. UM. And I have
Speaker 1: UM If you Look up to the Sky and if
Speaker 1: you look at this Guy, is about a grandmother teaching
Speaker 1: her granddaughter that they will always be connected if they
Speaker 1: look to this guy for signals and way to connect
Speaker 1: with each other. And then one that's coming out next year,
Speaker 1: which I'm so excited about hope you all will support
Speaker 1: it in love and remembrance. Is called to boldly go
Speaker 1: how Michelle Nichols and Star Trek help to advance civil rights.
Speaker 1: And it is my love letter of homage to Miss
Speaker 1: Nichols as Lieutenant Ahura, who brought science fiction into my life,
Speaker 1: who introduced me to Octavia E. Butler, who just enriched
Speaker 1: my life with technology and and and space and astronomy.
Speaker 1: And I will always be and forever indebted to her
Speaker 1: for what the work that she did only on the show,
Speaker 1: but just being a beautiful, strong black woman in the world. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a track. I didn't watch everything. Hello,
Speaker 1: I didn't seen every episode, every movie. I love science fiction.
Speaker 1: I used to read that before I read any other books.
Speaker 1: You really should, you know what science fiction really is
Speaker 1: a mirror of the world. It's a way, a palpable
Speaker 1: way for us to deal with the wrongs and the
Speaker 1: rights of the world in a way that brings us
Speaker 1: all together. That doesn't make it necessarily about race, doesn't
Speaker 1: necessarily make it about your religious beliefs. It just has
Speaker 1: to do with that we are all people and we
Speaker 1: have to learn how to get how to work together,
Speaker 1: how to get along with each other. And it's possible.
Speaker 1: It's possible if we treat each other with respect and
Speaker 1: we see each other for who we are and and
Speaker 1: appreciate that we can do that. And that's what science
Speaker 1: fiction shows us. It's possible. It is possible, but it
Speaker 1: takes each one of us to do the work to
Speaker 1: get their imagination and determination. Yes, yeah, that's why I love.
Speaker 1: It opens my mind, it makes me think outside the box.
Speaker 1: It gives me new ideas. This has been wonderful. Angela Dalton. Listen.
Speaker 1: If you don't have a books, go out and Bob
Speaker 1: Malik books got them and they are soul wherever books
Speaker 1: are sold. Thank you for this interview. Appreciate you. Peace.
Speaker 1: This is a continuation from the Barbershop Talk Part one
Speaker 1: from last week. This is part two, so enjoy Barbershop
Speaker 1: Talk Part two. God made naturally the man and the
Speaker 1: woman to be attracted to each other. That's a natural attraction.
Speaker 1: So whenever we see beauty in God creation, we are
Speaker 1: naturally attracted to that. The bad part about it when
Speaker 1: that beauty is used for manipulation, just to catch somebody
Speaker 1: just you know what I'm saying. You want to attract
Speaker 1: the person's mind, just not the body, because the body
Speaker 1: is gonna change the pass away. The body gonna change
Speaker 1: the pass away. We're gonna get older in life. We're
Speaker 1: not gonna keep this young, strong, night looking body that
Speaker 1: we have when we was young. Well, why why shouldn't
Speaker 1: a person who's beautiful use that to the advantage you
Speaker 1: her beauty, her beauty, her beauty, because she's not attracting
Speaker 1: a man. Brother, she's not a trap the man buy
Speaker 1: his spirit and the soul. She's a trap of the
Speaker 1: man with the with carnality. See, the flesh is gonna change,
Speaker 1: They're gonna pass away. You see what I'm saying. So,
Speaker 1: but you and I both known as men night right
Speaker 1: both But what gets our attention? You? You and us
Speaker 1: both know you know, you know that physical attraction is
Speaker 1: what causes us to bond before we get to know
Speaker 1: the inside right now, to be like, let's keeping why yeah,
Speaker 1: look like that spark they step outside the door. Keep
Speaker 1: looking at that one like like that spark. Look I
Speaker 1: like looking at them like whoa. At the same time,
Speaker 1: I hear you on that, because that the first thing
Speaker 1: you're gonna see. You don't see the thinking of a
Speaker 1: person too much. You don't see what's going on there.
Speaker 1: You see the physical. But if you just stay at
Speaker 1: the physical and never get into the spiritual, then you're
Speaker 1: gonna end up in court and that towns aboard court
Speaker 1: case and y'all gonna be batting back up. You guys
Speaker 1: never got to know each other on the spiritual level.
Speaker 1: It was just that love of it tried should come first,
Speaker 1: opposite track. You know, you're looking for something and you
Speaker 1: see it and it attracts you to get to know
Speaker 1: the person and learn the beauty of the inside. Right.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, though it depends on that
Speaker 1: person what he's he or she is, but that if
Speaker 1: that's your only value is your physical appearance, then I
Speaker 1: don't think the relations gonna last too long. You know
Speaker 1: it won't. It won't because because because beauty can turn ugly.
Speaker 1: If your ways are ugly, else they're gonna get that
Speaker 1: physical too. That's right. Let's say they like that person
Speaker 1: physical more than they like yours. You know, tomorrow you
Speaker 1: gonna hold different trip because now they don't like this
Speaker 1: or they don't like that. They just just so they
Speaker 1: can get out of this situation quickly. So they're gonna
Speaker 1: find the next person that they already found you just
Speaker 1: didn't though, no, no, but I tell you though, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, as we get older, we got to evolve,
Speaker 1: we had to get wiser and so you know, when
Speaker 1: you're young, you know, you're a ball of fire. So
Speaker 1: as you get wiser than you kind of understand things differently.
Speaker 1: So initially, yeah, I like that, Smark. We all do.
Speaker 1: We like that initial spark. But at some point we
Speaker 1: want to know the person. We want to know the inside,
Speaker 1: because the most important beauty is on the inside. But
Speaker 1: my brother, I want to come back to a point
Speaker 1: you made earlier. You you mentioned about here at the
Speaker 1: Bobby shop. It's the Bobby shop talk. A lot of
Speaker 1: men coming here and sit in your chair, and they
Speaker 1: have these issues with their spouses of girlfriends because you
Speaker 1: said that they talk too much or what I say that.
Speaker 1: Being a barber, brother and being open to you know,
Speaker 1: the public, you hear a lot. I get a lot
Speaker 1: of brother coming here. You know, I'm very busy. I'm
Speaker 1: very successful at the barber, thank God for that. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, I hear in this barber chair
Speaker 1: from the majority of my clients who have marital problems,
Speaker 1: problems with their girlfriend. I hear the same exact topic
Speaker 1: and complaints coming from the brothers, and none of these
Speaker 1: brothers are rehearsing this among themselves. Or let's get in
Speaker 1: front of the barber and let's say this, say that
Speaker 1: to know the the brothers come in at the end
Speaker 1: of a different times and they got good profession and
Speaker 1: good profession, good brothers, good dudes, good fathers, good husband.
Speaker 1: But they but but but I hear, man, my wife
Speaker 1: don't respect. She talks above me, she over talks me.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. She don't know how to
Speaker 1: show me respect and don't how to show my man.
Speaker 1: Talks to me like I'm a child. She done whatever
Speaker 1: she wants to do. She tell me she ain't gonna good,
Speaker 1: she ain't gonna do this, She ain't gonn do that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And I even heard that
Speaker 1: from the sisters in here. When when we have to yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't have to do Yeah, it's a new day
Speaker 1: and age. It's two thousand two, Like God put that
Speaker 1: in the Bible. Oh, in two thousand twenty two, you
Speaker 1: can just stop doing whatever the hell it is. I said, dude,
Speaker 1: because it's a new day in age. So do whatever
Speaker 1: you want to do. So when we got to go
Speaker 1: answer to him at the end of the day, guess
Speaker 1: what you're gonna say. I never said do what you
Speaker 1: want to do, but hey, let us tell it. We
Speaker 1: could do whatever we want because we got freedom whatever.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned next week for part three of Barbershop Talk.
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