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Speaker 1: Let's start with a report that apparently the Dodgers and
Speaker 1: the Reds have talked about a Louis Castillo trade. Uh.
Speaker 1: The Yankees, Red Sox, Mariners, Med's Cardinals have also all
Speaker 1: checked in no surprise on any of those teams. So
Speaker 1: let's start putting our money where our mouth is Welsh
Speaker 1: in your opinion, who pulls the trigger or should I
Speaker 1: say who needs to pull the trigger most? Who is
Speaker 1: going to get Luis Castillo? Two different questions, not necessarily
Speaker 1: the same answer.
Speaker 3: Ooh okay, So I think who needs him the most
Speaker 3: are the Mariners And I don't know if it was
Speaker 3: you and I or you are myself and Bogwin talking
Speaker 3: about this. But I definitely think the Mariners, on this
Speaker 3: precipice of you know, obviously just building this team and
Speaker 3: trying to be a playoff contender, they need to be
Speaker 3: hyper aggressive, like they need to make those moves if
Speaker 3: they're gonna be competitive. So I think they're the ones
Speaker 3: that need to make this movie, because then you would
Speaker 3: have a Robbie ray Logan, Gilbert Luis Castillo, or you know,
Speaker 3: if you wanted to insert Frankie Montos. We're talking about Castillo.
Speaker 3: They need to be hyper, hyper aggressive. The team that
Speaker 3: I think gets this done the Dodgers. The Dodgers have
Speaker 3: a plethora of great prospects in their system. Pitching is
Speaker 3: also the big key because I would imagine I could
Speaker 3: be wrong about this, but I would imagine the Reds
Speaker 3: are going to move off at Luis Castillo, They're going
Speaker 3: to want to bring a pitcher back in. Is very
Speaker 3: funny because these teams have also done trades before the
Speaker 3: Josiah Great trade that ended up happening, and the Reds
Speaker 3: had traded away you know, this really solid young pitcher
Speaker 3: and Josiah Gray that went to the Dodgers and ended
Speaker 3: up getting moved that they need to bring one back.
Speaker 3: And the Dodgers currently have Bobby Miller, who I think
Speaker 3: could be the centerpiece of a trade like this. Could
Speaker 3: be Bobby Miller and one other piece. They've got guys
Speaker 3: like Land and Nat Gavin Stone. They've got three great,
Speaker 3: great pictures, and I'm probably forgetting a couple off the
Speaker 3: top of my head, plus hitting prospects Michael Bush, Miguel Vargas,
Speaker 3: Andy Payos. So if it costs two prospects, the Dodgers
Speaker 3: can do it easier than anybody else in this entire conversation.
Speaker 3: So I think it's the Dodgers that make it happen.
Speaker 3: I think the Mariners need to make it happen.
Speaker 1: I think it's the Dodgers that are going to make
Speaker 1: it happen for the reasons you said too.
Speaker 2: They have the right mix of prospects.
Speaker 1: I also think it's the Dodgers that need to because
Speaker 1: I keep looking ahead the Gonsolin's eventual fall off, which
Speaker 1: I think is just inevitable. I look at Kershaw's iffy health,
Speaker 1: Walker Buehler, forget it, You're a I don't know if
Speaker 1: I can depend on him.
Speaker 2: They need more.
Speaker 1: Their expectations are so high. To me, it's World championship
Speaker 1: or bust for the Dodgers. They really need to get
Speaker 1: this one's.
Speaker 3: And also, you know, like how many times? How how
Speaker 3: many times can they strike gold with these other pictures,
Speaker 3: Like you know, they got Tayler Anderson, they got Gonsolin.
Speaker 3: Is it gonna be worthwhile if it's needed to put
Speaker 3: the backs on the rest of the season on a
Speaker 3: guy like Bobby Miller, No, probably not. And and Miller
Speaker 3: is relatively ready as is you know, Land and Nak
Speaker 3: these are two older, you know, high end triple A pitchers,
Speaker 3: So that that I agree with. I mean, you can
Speaker 3: make a case for the Dodgers maybe being the top
Speaker 3: need team of all of these because they're so good.
Speaker 1: I just make the case, right, I mean, yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel like in for the penny, in for the pound
Speaker 1: they are they need to make this move because I
Speaker 1: don't think I don't think when the Dodgers get in
Speaker 1: a short if the Dodgers had a short series starting
Speaker 1: tomorrow for the playoffs, I think the Mets with the
Speaker 1: gram and uh insurs are the Padres with their many
Speaker 1: many aces that they could throw at you, like, I mean,
Speaker 1: the the Brewer and all that frontline pitching.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they could throw you.
Speaker 3: I mean the Dodgers will be the Dodgers will theoretically
Speaker 3: they get Buehler back, maybe in time for the playoffs,
Speaker 3: so they want to give theoretically.
Speaker 2: Man, I do not feel good about getting war back.
Speaker 2: I really do. I think that one is just like.
Speaker 3: This is what's like odd to me. Still, And we've
Speaker 3: talked like briefly about trades and stuff. There are more
Speaker 3: teams out there, these competitive windows are very different. Like
Speaker 3: you just go all in and I and I hate
Speaker 3: the thought of, like if I were a Dodger fan
Speaker 3: trading away all my good prospects, But why not, Like
Speaker 3: you continuously replace your system. You have a great scouting department,
Speaker 3: as do teams like the Mariners and the Yankees. You
Speaker 3: just trade to make these impactful trades. Don't allow yourself
Speaker 3: to have a hole anywhere when you're going into the playoffs.
Speaker 3: And that's why you make these moves. And pitching is
Speaker 3: the ultimate You know, these guys are gonna pay, These
Speaker 3: guys are going to pay exponentially for relief pitching. Once
Speaker 3: that market starts to open up, why not start the
Speaker 3: market on all the pitching and make the big impact
Speaker 3: trade E.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Dylan Carlson three hits yesterday and Corningworth hit a homer,
Speaker 1: reach base four times against the Rockies. Man Bachiado hit
Speaker 1: me another home run. Hooray, yay, fish in the barrel
Speaker 1: A shot them all. Corey Seger hit another home run again.
Speaker 1: But boy, he's been red hot over the last week
Speaker 1: or so, Tigers said to recall on our favorites like
Speaker 1: kil Bado. On Tuesday, Nolan Jones four runs knocked in
Speaker 1: there for him again for the Guardians, and Bobby Witt
Speaker 1: had four hits and stole a base a lot more.
Speaker 1: Bobby Witt talked to come before we get.
Speaker 2: To that Nolan Jones.
Speaker 1: You know when he came up, we really didn't do
Speaker 1: any profile on Nolan Jones. It kind of came up
Speaker 1: in a busy time there. So your thoughts on Nolan
Speaker 1: Jones rest of season for those people who are looking
Speaker 1: at him or might have him on their team already
Speaker 1: and re draft leagues.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a really good spot. Nolan Jones is
Speaker 3: an obp like magnet. That has always been his big thing.
Speaker 3: He struggled ironically as like he's just a big dude.
Speaker 3: I've been around him a whole bunch. He's he's struggled
Speaker 3: with like developing impactful power. That's something that you really
Speaker 3: haven't seen. In twenty twenty one, he hit the teen homers.
Speaker 3: Year before that he had hit fifteen, so you've never
Speaker 3: seen big, big stuff. But strikeout numbers are coming down.
Speaker 3: He's already rocking an eight eighteen percent walk rate. Big
Speaker 3: physical human being who could play over on the corners
Speaker 3: if needed. I'm actually here for Nolan Jones. The injuries
Speaker 3: have really kept him just like muted over the last
Speaker 3: couple of years, and then seeing him come back this
Speaker 3: year in TRIPA at absolutely get back to dominating. He
Speaker 3: was a contact hitter. He actually has it almost like
Speaker 3: a Goldie nature to him, where he's not a forceful
Speaker 3: power hitter. He's a good contact hitter that you're hoping
Speaker 3: it's going to translate into power. But he's been had
Speaker 3: so many injuries. I really do think he could be
Speaker 3: a guy like that, but he's more transitioned into the outfield,
Speaker 3: but he can play multiple spots. I actually think he's
Speaker 3: a sneaky pickup right now. He wasn't someone I had
Speaker 3: put on my radar because he lost like the whole season,
Speaker 3: the first half of the season, came up for twenty
Speaker 3: games I think in Triple A, and then now he's
Speaker 3: in the Major so like they were hyper aggressive with him,
Speaker 3: but it's pretty good rate. I would be looking at
Speaker 3: Nolan Jones because I think he could hit near the
Speaker 3: middle of that lineup. I think there's a.
Speaker 1: Big question here going around the chat from Brent Cox.
Speaker 1: Here are we hoping that Lance Linn makes a turnaround?
Speaker 2: I am. I know he doesn't look great. I know.
Speaker 3: Are we hope hope? You can hope in one hand?
Speaker 2: Are we hoping?
Speaker 3: Are we thinking?
Speaker 2: But let's let's.
Speaker 1: Dial back a little bit and let's talk about you know,
Speaker 1: so far going into the year, he went into the
Speaker 1: year with an injury. He was completely off his normal track.
Speaker 1: Things have not gone well. There's been a couple of moments,
Speaker 1: some spurts from lanceln I'll start here or there where
Speaker 1: you go, okay, well, maybe if I need a pitching
Speaker 1: I think this is one of these guys.
Speaker 2: In the second half after the All Star Break that
Speaker 2: I've actually been trying to buy on the cheap. I
Speaker 2: really would.
Speaker 1: I just feel like, at least you know what good
Speaker 1: Lance Linn is and I mean perhaps the injury is
Speaker 1: still bothering him.
Speaker 2: Maybe you can make that argument. I don't know.
Speaker 1: But in terms of by low pitchers that you have
Speaker 1: a track record, I don't know how many are out
Speaker 1: there that are available, and I feel like this is
Speaker 1: a guy that fits that bill.
Speaker 2: I would roll the dice on Lanceln and see what happens.
Speaker 2: Where do you stand with let Well?
Speaker 3: I mean, so I want him to turn around. I
Speaker 3: don't know if I'm not really so sure he's going
Speaker 3: to turn around. I'm always into these. Okay, so here's
Speaker 3: an overchow.
Speaker 2: Well, this is the by low. Would you buy low?
Speaker 3: Yes, that's the quest. If it's a true low I'll
Speaker 3: always take these type of risks because you actually laid
Speaker 3: it out really well. It's like these guys that have
Speaker 3: these really proven track records to be ace ish. I
Speaker 3: will buy low on if it is a true low cost,
Speaker 3: just because are we to really determined that the wall
Speaker 3: was just hit? I don't necessarily know so, but I
Speaker 3: am concerned and I would have to be really low.
Speaker 3: He's lost almost a mile and a half on his fastball.
Speaker 3: He's ditched the slider. Well, I shouldn't say ditch the slider. Fangrafts,
Speaker 3: they designate stuff weird where they're designating what was a
Speaker 3: slider last year is like a cutter, and then they're
Speaker 3: saying his slider has lost some v low so but
Speaker 3: still that's cut a little bit and he's just not
Speaker 3: getting it quite. His curveball's actually gone up, which is
Speaker 3: don't necessarily like to see. And he's been inconsistent across
Speaker 3: the board the half of his starts. He's given up
Speaker 3: five earned runs or more thirteen earned runs in his
Speaker 3: last two starts. You know, where are the positive signs?
Speaker 3: So if it's a cheat, by sure, I don't know
Speaker 3: if there's great stuff outside of track record that's telling
Speaker 3: us this will turn around, but I am willing to
Speaker 3: take risks on track record.
Speaker 1: I think I think it's also a matter of you know,
Speaker 1: maybe he gets a little reset mentally at the All
Speaker 1: Star break too. That is something that happens when you
Speaker 1: go look at splits of players every single year. You
Speaker 1: see splits, you're like, man, this guy stunk in the
Speaker 1: first half, and then look at the second half numbers.
Speaker 2: After the break.
Speaker 1: The pre impost is a real thing, and sometimes it's
Speaker 1: that mental break a little bit. It's the physical break,
Speaker 1: it's the mental break. I think this is a picture
Speaker 1: who has, you know, really earned my respect over the years.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows I'm a big fan of the physique as
Speaker 1: well when it comes to Lancelin. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: I feel like, if I'm gonna put my money on
Speaker 1: a bi low candidate, Lanceln's the exact kind of guy.
Speaker 1: The stock is hit rock bottom. He's on a good team,
Speaker 1: there's a track record of being good. I would be
Speaker 1: trying to buy him, and what's the worst that happened?
Speaker 2: You buy him low? It doesn't work out? Okay?
Speaker 1: A couple injury notes real quick, Jesus Lozardo facing live
Speaker 1: hitters today and Will Meyer starting rehab assignment today as well.
Speaker 2: But let's talk about this today. We're gonna do mine. Tomorrow,
Speaker 2: we're gonna do Welsh's.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the guys that we were
Speaker 1: most right and wrong about going into the season, and
Speaker 1: whether or not either of these trends both good or bad.
Speaker 2: Or sustainable. So let's talk about the el's first.
Speaker 1: These are the two guys that was most wrong about
Speaker 1: Trevor Rodgers most wrong. I thought there was a real
Speaker 1: chance this guy was gonna build on the first half
Speaker 1: of last year and how dominant he was.
Speaker 2: That has not happened.
Speaker 1: And then Brian Reynolds, who is now on the IL
Speaker 1: with an oblique so you know, obviously that season has
Speaker 1: not been where I wanted to be. I thought he
Speaker 1: was one of the best values. Those are two guys
Speaker 1: that was very in on coming into the season. I
Speaker 1: love their ADP could not have been more wrong on both.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna ask this question, is there any time
Speaker 1: here left in the season for either of these two
Speaker 1: guys to turn it around or is it just an
Speaker 1: abject failure now eighty five games.
Speaker 2: Into the season.
Speaker 3: I'm over Trevor Rodgers. I'm done the Trevor Rodgers thon. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think like the lefty.
Speaker 1: Sometimes the big lefty mechanically steps to figure things out.
Speaker 1: Like I think that's what it is, you know, because
Speaker 1: we've seen that with Randy Johnson even back in the past.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean Treva Rodgers, not Randy Johnson. But
Speaker 3: I'm one of those people though I don't ever write
Speaker 3: someone off completely like that. It's the story's completely done.
Speaker 3: But I'm over needing to sit around and figure out
Speaker 3: if it happens for me this year. I just don't
Speaker 3: need it. The strikeouts are crazy, a lovel the walks
Speaker 3: are absolutely insane. It's a pretty big home run rate
Speaker 3: for him, and this is now actually two years of
Speaker 3: pitching to a three hundred plus Babbitt. There's about a
Speaker 3: run differential between xt FIP and ERA, but it's still
Speaker 3: not good. I just don't I just don't think you
Speaker 3: need to sit around and doctor Glenn said it perfectly
Speaker 3: without a whole bunch of breakdown. Reynolds, Yes, Rogers, No,
Speaker 3: that's how I feel. Reynold's on the IL right now,
Speaker 3: still makes solid contact. I think he's fine. It just
Speaker 3: I was never a big neither one of these guys.
Speaker 3: Was I ever really that big on And it depends
Speaker 3: what Reynolds you were buying. I think you and I
Speaker 3: had like tons of discussions about being Reynolds in this offseason.
Speaker 3: I just think he's a fine hitter, mediocre power guy.
Speaker 3: He's one of those guys that's like seventy seventy run
Speaker 3: RBI in my mind set, maybe seventy five to seventy
Speaker 3: five twenty homers.
Speaker 1: See, I thought he was a little bit better than that,
Speaker 1: and I thought maybe getting to another team with like
Speaker 1: I thought he was a get off to a good start,
Speaker 1: get Delta a contender, and then really, you know, the
Speaker 1: seventy five run guy becomes a ninety five run guy.
Speaker 1: You know, it all sudden done if he can get
Speaker 1: those last three months with a better team. But alas
Speaker 1: that's probably not gonna happen. Here the guys that was
Speaker 1: right about ooh, I was right. I was very aggressive
Speaker 1: on Bobby Wood Junior in redraft leagues. I know it
Speaker 1: was a rough April, but here we stand right now
Speaker 1: where Bobby Wood Junior had five hits, two runs, three
Speaker 1: steals in the doubleheader yesterday. That brings him up to
Speaker 1: twelve home runs and sixteen stone bases on the season.
Speaker 1: So if you were aggressive on Bobby Wood Junior, like
Speaker 1: I certainly was, this is a win.
Speaker 2: And some people were not. Like some people are like, no, no,
Speaker 2: it's too rich to pay for him.
Speaker 3: Me Nope, pump people with the with the rookies. So
Speaker 3: I'd say I was actually the Fantasy Pro's highest ranker
Speaker 3: going into Bobby wit March on Bobby Wit yeah, like
Speaker 3: Bobman and I do. We do.
Speaker 2: We just had an hour right behind you. Then we
Speaker 2: had Yeah, we do.
Speaker 3: An analysis on this every single year, and there was
Speaker 3: no human being who had submitted their ranks that was
Speaker 3: higher than me. But I think that might have got
Speaker 3: surpassed on the back end.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a bad one. I mean, I'm sorry. The other
Speaker 1: good one for me was Christian Javier. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: you love I love Tavier coming into the year. Uh
Speaker 1: And and remember when Oderezi came back and started pitching, Well,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh no, this is gonna do. I said,
Speaker 1: you know what, no, go out there, buy him everywhere. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Now that everyone's pissed off that he's getting bumped from
Speaker 1: the rotation again, Odoresei got hurt well a week later,
Speaker 1: two weeks later, whatever it was, and then he's I mean,
Speaker 1: you can't take him out of that rotation, just can't.
Speaker 2: He's been absolutely dominant. So yes, those are two things
Speaker 2: I will take the victory lap.
Speaker 1: On tomorrow, we're gonna talk about Welsh's Uh so he's
Speaker 1: going to pick out a couple of names too that
Speaker 1: he was right too, that he was wrong about.
Speaker 2: But let's get to the names too.
Speaker 1: On the h on the big board where we talk
Speaker 1: about the guys who are gonna be the Home Run
Speaker 1: Derby participants. Now, I know we were talking about how
Speaker 1: we want to run this Welsh. I'm gonna propose this
Speaker 1: to you. I want to see how you think about it.
Speaker 1: I thought about this all day, all night.
Speaker 3: I can tell. I can tell the lighting telle what
Speaker 3: I thought.
Speaker 1: That's why I blew out all the electricity in my house.
Speaker 1: I think we should everybody should pick who they think
Speaker 1: is going to win the Home Run Derby. If you
Speaker 1: get it right, you get two points. I think that's
Speaker 1: what you should do. I think that is the simplest
Speaker 1: way for the bot to function properly, so that everybody
Speaker 1: can just go.
Speaker 2: Ahead and make because I think two is that's nice.
Speaker 2: You get you get two.
Speaker 1: A bump up there if you want to make it
Speaker 1: three and you want to feel sassy, okay, But I
Speaker 1: think two for whoever just picks the.
Speaker 2: Guy that wins.
Speaker 1: Obviously, you have a finite number of choices. What do
Speaker 1: you think about that? Is that not exciting or sexy
Speaker 1: in it?
Speaker 3: It looks like Mary's saning Wonkee As a proposal for this,
Speaker 3: I'm all good with all of that. When I was
Speaker 3: originally say it, I hadn't even thought of it from
Speaker 3: a macro perspective. I was literally saying, you myself and
Speaker 3: we draft two people from the comments.
Speaker 1: We can still do that anyway, and we could have
Speaker 1: a little personal competition you myself, Mayor and Wonky.
Speaker 2: We could do that.
Speaker 3: That'd be fun. Yeah, let's still has a plan. There
Speaker 3: might be a little bit alteration, but I think whatever
Speaker 3: it is, your plan makes a lot of sense for everybody,
Speaker 3: especially if you're getting the bot into it.
Speaker 1: Okay, So Wonky, he's got a plan, which is good.
Speaker 1: That's why she's in charge of things. So Wonky, you
Speaker 1: send me the plan and I will talk about on
Speaker 1: the show. You can put in the home run channel
Speaker 1: and everybody can get involved in this, because I don't
Speaker 1: want a night where we're not picking home runs.
Speaker 2: That seems ridiculous. I want to do that.
Speaker 1: Also, I want to talk about these guys who have
Speaker 1: ops is under seven hundred for the year, and I
Speaker 1: want to know if you think the second half is
Speaker 1: going to go better for them or worse. Let's start
Speaker 1: with Matt Chapman was sitting two nineteen with a six
Speaker 1: ninety nine ops. He's got thirteen bombs, though has been
Speaker 1: a little bit better of late. I also want to note,
Speaker 1: Matt Chapman, can he have a better second half or no?
Speaker 2: Yes or no?
Speaker 3: Welsh Oh, you know, I'm gonna say he can, but
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say no because I think it's gonna be
Speaker 3: a lot like the first half. And I don't think
Speaker 3: even if he hits two thirty, I don't think that's
Speaker 3: I mean, it is technically better, but I don't think
Speaker 3: that's what you're talking about. I think when you're talking
Speaker 3: about this, you're talking like exponential relatively exponential growth. And
Speaker 3: then under that I'd kind of say no.
Speaker 2: All right. JT.
Speaker 1: Real Muto seven homers, thirty five ribies, two forty, batting
Speaker 1: average six eighty four ops.
Speaker 2: Better or worse.
Speaker 1: And he's a catcher, so I always tend to say
Speaker 1: worse in the second half. So I'm gonna say worse.
Speaker 3: What do you think I'm gonna say it better? I'm
Speaker 3: gonna say better. He he's done the old Bryce Harper
Speaker 3: where you struggle on one side of the field and
Speaker 3: you make yourself more valuable. Where Harper would do this,
Speaker 3: where when he's not hitting for power, he steals more bases,
Speaker 3: and Ramuto has done the same thing. When he's not
Speaker 3: hitting for good contact and the power numbers, maybe he's
Speaker 3: used to he's stealing bases. I think that turns around
Speaker 3: in the second half. I think he improves.
Speaker 1: Cabrian Hayes four homers who have grossed fifty batting average
Speaker 1: six eighty ops, better or worse in the second half.
Speaker 3: Ooh, this is blind faith. I'm gonna say better. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna say better. I'm just I'm kind of a Cabrian
Speaker 3: Hayes guy. I really am waiting for him to click.
Speaker 3: I truly believe. I just don't know if it's gonna
Speaker 3: be this second half. It's gonna be next year. There's
Speaker 3: gonna be a year where it really clicks for Kei,
Speaker 3: Brian Hayes. Maybe maybe it's.
Speaker 2: Post All Star Break. He could be.
Speaker 1: Certainly those guys Nick Cassianos eight homers, two fifty one,
Speaker 1: batting average six seventy three ops. Oh, his OBP is
Speaker 1: two ninety seven this year. What in the world is
Speaker 1: going on? I think it's gotta be better.
Speaker 3: Welsh, right, it has to be better. How can it
Speaker 3: not be better?
Speaker 2: I mean, those are all by Lows.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's basically what we're giving you here is
Speaker 1: all these Bylows. But you could do the inverse about
Speaker 1: guys are doing too well. But just looking at the list,
Speaker 1: those are some of the major guys. And then last
Speaker 1: one Haave or Bayez two to eleven batting average on
Speaker 1: the year through seventy four games, nine home runs, a
Speaker 1: six twenty ops. That is disgusting, Welsh better or worse
Speaker 1: in the second half for the same man.
Speaker 3: This is what he's built off. He's built a He's
Speaker 3: built a mansion off of just being inconsistent and then
Speaker 3: going bonkers. I'm gonna say he doesn't do it because
Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna be big. But I could
Speaker 3: be wrong about this because he literally can just pull
Speaker 3: off like six weeks of you know, number one overall
Speaker 3: fantasy stuff. It's just I don't know, seems we don't.
Speaker 3: I don't feel like we have the same hobber bias
Speaker 3: with the Tigers anymore. This seems like a different version
Speaker 3: of the one that we've known.
Speaker 2: It certainly does.
Speaker 1: The last guy who actually were slated to talk more
Speaker 1: about later on, Spencer Torkosen over seven yesterday and the
Speaker 1: double day up, strikeout, slashing one, two, two ninety six.
Speaker 1: They got to send him down. I mean, it's it is,
Speaker 1: literally right now, the worst debut season ever for a
Speaker 1: former number one pick. So that tells you everything that's
Speaker 1: going on.
Speaker 3: Man, I don't disagree with you.
Speaker 2: It's definitely the thing crazy. Now do it now or
Speaker 2: on the All Star break?
Speaker 1: So he can, you know, just take a deeper breath,
Speaker 1: you can get away from Detroit a little bit. You
Speaker 1: can just focus on what's gonna do. You're missing basically
Speaker 1: a week of games. Give him the rest of July,
Speaker 1: call him back August first. That's what I would do right.
Speaker 3: Now, you know, man, I've've actually been thinking a lot
Speaker 3: about Spencer Torkelsen. Of all the rookie things that have
Speaker 3: happened this year, I'm the most shocked at how unsuccessful
Speaker 3: he is. I'm not shocked by well, I mean, the
Speaker 3: stolen bases by Julio is maybe actually truly number one.
Speaker 3: But like I'm not shocked by Julio's success, I'm not
Speaker 3: shocked by Bobby WIT's success. I am shocked at how
Speaker 3: bad Torklsen is. And there's been no adjustment whatsoever. And
Speaker 3: he's played playing with a you know, a great great
Speaker 3: leader and coach if you will, and Miguel Cabrera and
Speaker 3: stuff like that, and there's just no improvement whatsoever. I
Speaker 3: don't know what they do, because I agree you should
Speaker 3: send him down to get his head right, but who
Speaker 3: are you bringing in place? And what does that really
Speaker 3: cure for a Tigers team. I don't know they I mean,
Speaker 3: they probably need to get some outside coaching help, but
Speaker 3: hopefully Torklsen gets some like serious outside coaching help, hitting
Speaker 3: help in the offseason, because it's bonkers and he is
Speaker 3: way too talented to be.
Speaker 1: Here's a loaded question, and I know this is gonna
Speaker 1: upset a lot of people. Is Spencer Torkosen the next
Speaker 1: Nick Senzel?
Speaker 3: It's definitely looking like that. Of all the rookies, he's
Speaker 3: the best possibility because of name value, because there's no other.
Speaker 1: Like Polish college hitter. Everybody thought, can't miss, fastest guy
Speaker 1: to rise to the big leagues. All those things were
Speaker 1: there for Nick Senzel. People forget Kelnick. Maybe Kelnick may
Speaker 1: be the real Nixon. Funny, you should mention Kelnick because
Speaker 1: fun fact, I went, you know, I haven't looked at
Speaker 1: Kelenicks numbers in a while. How's he doing intrible A,
Speaker 1: He's doing well. He's got ten homers in two ninety nine.
Speaker 1: The ops is above like nine to fifty. He's been outstanding.
Speaker 1: Got a couple of steels as well.
Speaker 3: I mean he ar kelnil or what my favorite? Yeah? Yes,
Speaker 3: by the way, it is. One of my favorite things
Speaker 3: about you is when you get excited to a play
Speaker 3: and you turn into Jerry Seinfield, You're like, he's doing well.
Speaker 3: I love I love good things. Yeah. No, PCL is this.
Speaker 3: This is literally a PCL is. PCL is a crazy
Speaker 3: high end hitting environment. What you want from a guy
Speaker 3: like Kelnick is you want to see him hitting three seventy.
Speaker 3: You want to see him put up what Joe Adell
Speaker 3: stuff did uh for a time, but then Adella struggled.
Speaker 3: It is very problematic that kel Nick looks all the
Speaker 3: part of a quad player. This is how I feel
Speaker 3: about kell Nick. I don't think you're gonna see an
Speaker 3: in season change from him at any point in his career.
Speaker 3: You're just gonna see a season where it clicks. He's
Speaker 3: a crazy hard He's really tough on himself. I think
Speaker 3: there's a lot of like mental game that goes on
Speaker 3: with him. When I interviewed him a long time ago,
Speaker 3: he was talking about how him and his parents and
Speaker 3: his agents they sat around and they would think about goal.
Speaker 1: I remember when he came up with the Remember I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, dude, we gotta buy Hellenic merched. I
Speaker 1: can't wait for the I mean, there's got to be
Speaker 1: on clearance right now, it's got.
Speaker 2: To be clear.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a kmart. Probably find some celnic at
Speaker 3: a good will. But like it's like, I think he
Speaker 3: really gets into his head, and I think he works
Speaker 3: really hard, and I think there'll be a time where
Speaker 3: he can attempt to fix this. I just don't know
Speaker 3: how great it will ever be. And it really doesn't
Speaker 3: look like it's gonna happen in season because I don't
Speaker 3: know if it's pitch recognition. Everything about him is gonna
Speaker 3: been completely lost. And it's so funny because Kelnick was like,
Speaker 3: you know, seeing as like the bigger brother to Julio Rodriguez.
Speaker 3: Those guys were roommates for a bit, and like this
Speaker 3: was the guy. This was the guy, And it's it's
Speaker 3: most quad a that I can recall. I mean, him
Speaker 3: and Joey Dell. It's I'm actually shocked that both of
Speaker 3: them have gone so quad a at this point, it's
Speaker 3: just not gonna happen in season.
Speaker 2: The second R in his name is weighing him down.
Speaker 2: That's according to Wonkey, that's what she says. But yeah,
Speaker 2: there you go.
Speaker 1: Uh also just for SS and g's because I'm a jerk.
Speaker 1: Taylor Ward last thirty days, h one home run, two
Speaker 1: a five batting average through a four OBP three O
Speaker 1: eight slugging.
Speaker 2: Just wanted to throw that out six twelve ops? What's what?
Speaker 2: What's it? What's the worst looking for? Oh? Yeah, I
Speaker 2: told you, Sow. I told you, Oh, I told you so,
Speaker 2: I told you Sow. Stop it all right.
Speaker 1: This day in baseball nineteen seventy nine, thousands of fans
Speaker 1: overrun Comiskey Park Field during Disco Demolition Night, causing the
Speaker 1: White Sox to forfeit the second game of a doubleheader.
Speaker 1: All I could think about when I saw this was,
Speaker 1: could you imagine the statements that would be made? Well,
Speaker 1: you know, these fans that came over, they would be
Speaker 1: all this arrests and things and public statements from from
Speaker 1: the White Sox and security and stuff that, and all
Speaker 1: I could think of was in the seventies. That was
Speaker 1: just like a Tuesday. It was just a Tuesday, and
Speaker 1: then we just like, I guess we have to cancel
Speaker 1: this game because people were on the field and they
Speaker 1: went nuts.
Speaker 2: We'll see tomorrow. It's nineteen seventy nine.
Speaker 3: And there was no outlets to like, there's no like
Speaker 3: major outlets to talk about it. So every just buddy
Speaker 3: moved on. Probably people didn't even know about what was
Speaker 3: going on either.
Speaker 2: Well, they found out like during the week, like they've
Speaker 2: read it in the newspaper. Yeah, you know, came acros.
Speaker 1: They read about it two days later, and they're like us, that's.
Speaker 3: When the last time you picked up a newspaper, I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 1: Probably to kill oh I know, not to kill a bug,
Speaker 1: but no, I would say, pick up a newspaper. I
Speaker 1: used to love, especially early fantasy man like I used
Speaker 1: to love having the newspaper. You peel through some of
Speaker 1: the stats, you could just see everything there on the
Speaker 1: one page.
Speaker 2: Probably to light the fire.
Speaker 1: Pit, because sometimes we get like the little newspaper things
Speaker 1: sent to us and that helps to light the fireport year.
Speaker 2: This year, last year, Oh okay, let the fire pit.
Speaker 3: Yet you know what I actually this season, I also
Speaker 3: picked up one. I picked probably picked up one last week,
Speaker 3: but it was the people throwing it on my driveway
Speaker 3: me picking up and putting it immediately in the trash.
Speaker 1: Doctor Glenn says, my lighting today looks like breaking bad
Speaker 1: films at the cartel scene.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe we shall see.
Speaker 1: All right, here's your tribute question for the day. Who
Speaker 1: owns the longest home run in home run Derby history
Speaker 1: since twenty sixteen? Started to track these with stack cast,
Speaker 1: So this Glenn traveling distance since twenty sixteen. Who has
Speaker 1: the biggest of all the monster shots? If you know,
Speaker 1: drop it in the chat. That's what we want to do.
Speaker 1: Running through the stat heroes, Michaelis five k's, no walks,
Speaker 1: one earned Mitch Keller same deal for him over seven innings,
Speaker 1: both of them. Merle Kelly's seven innings just four k's.
Speaker 1: But it was Max Scherzer who was all the rage
Speaker 1: yesterday with his nine strikeouts. By the way it went
Speaker 1: over hit that nailed it yesterday on the prop bets
Speaker 1: Yond Diaz three for three, Jake Morisnik two for three
Speaker 1: with a dinger, Leote Taveres three for four with three
Speaker 1: ribis and a steel Jake Cronenworth, we mentioned his big
Speaker 1: day with a homer three for four, Luis Gillormey with
Speaker 1: a homer, two for three. Corey Dickerson is the name
Speaker 1: we haven't said in a long time two for three
Speaker 1: with a dinger.
Speaker 2: Same for CJ.
Speaker 1: Abrams two for four with a homer, Charlie Blackman two
Speaker 1: for four, and Vinie Pesquentino my people two for four
Speaker 1: with a home run. Had youtha win the stat zero's
Speaker 1: Lancelyn eight earned runs, nine hits not good. Aaron Nole
Speaker 1: five earned seven innings. Told you yesterday was a hot mess.
Speaker 3: He did hit the seven k's, we got the case.
Speaker 2: He did hit the seven k's, but legit in the
Speaker 2: seven k's.
Speaker 1: So again we crushed the props yesterday. And Brian Bayo
Speaker 1: was bad. Five earned run for case for him. Also,
Speaker 1: Colby Allard gave up five earned in a third of
Speaker 1: an inning.
Speaker 2: That's an accomplishment.
Speaker 1: Matt Olsen over four to four k's, he's another one
Speaker 1: of these by low guys. For me, I feel like
Speaker 1: Olsen hasn't quite adjusted yet. I look for him for
Speaker 1: I have a big second half. Goldie over four to
Speaker 1: three ks. So that was the one bad one. There
Speaker 1: we talked about Torkosin and CJ. Crown also over four
Speaker 1: to three K, so hope he sold high on him.
Speaker 1: Well she got a you got a guest here for
Speaker 1: who might have the biggest of all the home runs?
Speaker 3: Man, you know what I was gonna say, but then
Speaker 3: you said sixteen. I was gonna say Prince Fielder from
Speaker 3: back to twenty sixteen. Yeah, so I don't Hobby Bias
Speaker 3: as the person came to my mind. But I don't
Speaker 3: even know if he's I don't remember if he's even
Speaker 3: been in a home run derby. So I really.
Speaker 1: Didn't get it right in the chat. It was five
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty feet by the way in course field
Speaker 1: and twenty twenty one JP on it boom wow one one.
Speaker 1: That's right baby, and Frank also got it. So there
Speaker 1: you go.
Speaker 2: So Juan Soto is the master of his remain. There
Speaker 2: you have it now the home run board.
Speaker 1: I thought I was up to twenty six. I was
Speaker 1: informed that is incorrect. I am still at twenty five.
Speaker 3: Wrong.
Speaker 1: I could have sworn that I was at twenty five.
Speaker 1: After two Austin Riley's over the weekend. I kind of
Speaker 1: I feel like there's other forces at play here, but.
Speaker 2: Now I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think there might be I think there might be
Speaker 1: a committee hearing about this in Congress at some point.
Speaker 1: But Mike Mayor is still at twenty eight, to Larry
Speaker 1: See at thirty, the title Chaser at thirty, to Blum
Speaker 1: at thirty two, and of course Hikobi's still at the
Speaker 1: top of thirty four. And we've got a lot of
Speaker 1: people tied at twenty six. So we've got six people,
Speaker 1: maybe seven.
Speaker 2: If you count me. But I don't know.
Speaker 1: I've been told that I am incorrect. So not the
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Speaker 2: I like Chris Sale.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about a gimme on FanDuel four and a
Speaker 1: half is the k prop against Tampa, Yes, I don't
Speaker 1: care if it's minus one forty eight. Yes, Spencer Streider
Speaker 1: on FanDuel seven and a half ks, Yes, I'll take
Speaker 1: the over on that one minus one forty six, Okay,
Speaker 1: Garrett Cole at BETMGM seven and a half, I'll still
Speaker 1: go the over because it's Kansas City at minus one
Speaker 1: ten And then you got Trout and Otani today against
Speaker 1: Houston plus one point fifteen plus one twenty respectively for
Speaker 1: the one and a half total base props. But Welsh
Speaker 1: you've got something on Otani as well today and a
Speaker 1: pitcher from the Cardinals, I believe.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well also I would say I want to one correction.
Speaker 3: It's adjusted because Spence Strader is now six and a
Speaker 3: half and the on the over, so you can get
Speaker 3: six and a half, which is the number one for
Speaker 3: as well. Let me see I have it up here
Speaker 3: seven and a half.
Speaker 2: Maybe they weren't getting action.
Speaker 3: It's the lower n bet YOUNI BET's got six and
Speaker 3: a half. Everybody else might be seven and a half.
Speaker 2: That's where you bet with all the people have one
Speaker 2: eyebrow bet there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be my number one. I love love
Speaker 3: Striter my other two you mentioned Otani, that's actually my
Speaker 3: probably true number one. You're getting plus money one and
Speaker 3: a half versus Houston absolutely on DraftKings and with Matthew
Speaker 3: Libertor strikeouts three and a half, very low number on
Speaker 3: the Dodgers, it's a pretty easy number to hit. Libertor
Speaker 3: has actually been pretty solid on the season. So Libs,
Speaker 3: Strider and Otani for me.
Speaker 2: Don't forget to take your libertore.
Speaker 3: Make sure you take I like that sale one too.
Speaker 3: I would just get dicey about innings and stuff. But
Speaker 3: you go get these dog pitchers that have come back
Speaker 3: like Brandon Woodruff. I was like, I'm gonna bet the
Speaker 3: under at eight and he had like nine and three innings,
Speaker 3: So you're you're probably on percent.
Speaker 2: Right. It's so low, I mean, come on, I mean.
Speaker 3: Well, but it's because it's Tampa. Because Tampa doesn't strike out.
Speaker 2: Care I care?
Speaker 1: Four and a half is gott says nothing. All right,
Speaker 1: let's go through the DFS slate today. Expensive pitchers, uh
Speaker 1: Dylan sees at nine to seven on DK to me,
Speaker 1: is the best value if you want to go with
Speaker 1: him and Spencer Stryder. That's the best way to combine
Speaker 1: and just kind of fade away Garret Cole at the top.
Speaker 1: If you want to go Chris Alee and do a
Speaker 1: little oppo in the tournament, I'm fine with that too,
Speaker 1: But Season Strider is what I would do. I would
Speaker 1: pay up on the FanDuel side. Again, I don't think
Speaker 1: you have to pay all the way at the top
Speaker 1: of Garrett Cole at ten six. I think you can
Speaker 1: go to Gosman at nine to nine and do that
Speaker 1: or nine point one with Stryder. Use him in tournaments.
Speaker 1: Your stacks tonight, Yankees, Padres, Cardinals.
Speaker 2: Blue Jays.
Speaker 1: Those are the four best offenses in my opinion, with
Speaker 1: their matchups where they are. Uh and then of course
Speaker 1: lineup builders. Matt Carpenter on DK three nine, Alex Carrol
Speaker 1: off at three, Dylan Carlson three to two on FanDuel,
Speaker 1: Matt Chapman at two eight, Kepler two six, Dylan Carlson
Speaker 1: at two three. I'm gonna take Aaron Judge, even though
Speaker 1: everyone says I'm lame.
Speaker 2: That's right, He'll be. It's three tonight in the Great
Speaker 2: American Small Park.
Speaker 1: We have Mayor taking rowdy tells whatever, and then Welsh,
Speaker 1: who are you taking for your home run tonight?
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I guess I'm going a little bit boring
Speaker 3: like you. I'm gonna go with Otani or Toni a
Speaker 3: little five for fifteen track record against Luis Garcia, a
Speaker 3: couple I'm looking for a couple of bombs looking to
Speaker 3: get going. Or I'll just watch all of you guys far.
Speaker 1: And I expect you to go as soon as I
Speaker 1: am gone. August first. I expect you to go on
Speaker 1: a monumental run for the last two months of the season.
Speaker 2: Nice time you're overdue.
Speaker 3: Yeah, except you're gonna be You'll be gone, and like
Speaker 3: Mayor will be at number one on the board. So
Speaker 3: every day I'll be like, all right, may Pabody, I'll
Speaker 3: just be rooting for everybody to just get above that.
Speaker 1: Please weel see, all right, that'll do it for us.
Speaker 1: But the story of the game goes on for the Welsh.
Speaker 2: I'm Joey p. We'll see you next time. Kids, enjoy
Speaker 2: your baseball.
Speaker 3: The thing that