WEBVTT - Episode 197 w/ Steve Rifkind 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:16.960 And his Drink Chas motherfucking podcast. He's a legendary Queen's rappers. 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:19.320 He's agree that's your boy in O R. He's a 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:22.680 Miami hippoper lioneer. One up is d j e FN. 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:25.639 Together they drinking up with some of the biggest players, 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:30.000 I mean, in the most professional, unprofessional podcast and yet 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:34.240 number one sorts for drunk back Mother is New Year's 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:38.560 z Just time for Drink Champs trick up Mother, Mother. 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:47.240 Wouldn't good be hoping he shoot me? This is your boy? 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:49.839 And oh what up is d J e F And 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:52.800 this is motherfucking tape? Crazy War podcast, motherfucking Drink Champs 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:58.880 Happy hour type of crazy ship make And right now, 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:01.360 when you talk about the death finition of CEO, when 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:03.400 you talk about a person who stood by hip hop 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:05.080 and put it on the likes of people in your 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:09.280 favorite acts like boot Tank Clan, Big Punt Uh Dead 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:12.880 Prazu marb Deep Uh. These are people that you probably 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:15.479 wouldn't even You probably wouldn't even know if this guy, 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:18.440 you know, gave Fact Joe a great opportunity. This guy 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:20.760 is out here and he's still out here. He's dated 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:22.520 some of the most beautiful women in the world. So 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:25.120 we're gonna get into that. We also already had the 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:28.360 keys to a Vegas Strip club by himself in a 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:31.000 beautiful way. He look, he's blushing. That's a beautiful way 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:33.959 this guy has been doing. You know, I've been out 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:37.720 in this music industry. Has Kevin Industree team invented the 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:40.120 street Team? He invented it. If you look at the 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:42.280 Woot Tank Clan documentary, so I think is one of 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:46.120 the ghost uh greatest beautiful list documentary, you can see 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:50.360 him in there. He actually has hair phenomenal here too, 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:53.040 he looked like the fawns. If you don't know, I'm 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:59.960 talking about talking about my good friend Steve motherfucking Now, 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:03.240 that is a debate. That is a hip hop debate, Right, 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:11.960 who invented the Street Team? Okay? But if you remember, okay, 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:14.520 when we did drink Champs in l A in my 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:19.520 office and what Puff said, Okay, I've got I've got there. 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:21.400 There was someone's going on that. What did he say? 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:24.200 He did them? Yeah? He did? What is trying to 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:26.440 say that he no, no, he never you know, he 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:30.440 never mean Me and p were always close. I mean, 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:33.320 but how did you develop even that? Right, Steve because 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:36.160 at the time hip hop was just it was like billboard, 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:40.000 uh driven and things of that nature. How did you say, 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:42.640 you know what, I'm getting a crew and you know, 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:46.840 because like it's basically like likes something was It was 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:50.040 more than that. I was really dyslexic as a kid. 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:54.920 We're all dyslexic. So you know where all Jews go 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:57.360 when they get They moved down to Miami. So my 0:02:57.400 --> 0:03:03.320 grandparents moved to Miami and my grandfather called. My grandfather 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:07.400 called me and he said, um, you gotta get your 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:09.800 ship together. You gonna end up better, you gonna end 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:12.000 up in jail. He goes, why don't you go work 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:15.400 with your dad? So my dad had a label called 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:19.200 Spring Records, So that was Fat Back Band who put 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:23.040 out the first hip hoper record, Billie Jackson, Joe Simon 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:28.000 and James and James Brown and James Brown through polygraph Yes. 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:32.480 So he sent me on the road when I was 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:36.240 eighteen years old. I didn't go to college, so I'm 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:41.840 visiting radio stations and visiting people my age now, and 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:43.480 I was like, what the fund do I want to 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:46.040 hang out with a fifty year old? So I ended 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:50.560 up going back to the college. So I knew what 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:52.120 an intern was, you know, where I would be like, 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:54.760 I'm just gonna send you some records. You know, nobody 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:56.440 was making really T shirts at the time. There was 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:59.400 no really postal boards, there wasn't any of that, and 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:02.000 I just saw so I started zigzagging across the country 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:06.240 and I just put a network of people together. So 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:10.680 and that's how it really is, just the precursor of 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:18.200 like street teams and reached this is so you know, 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:26.360 then my dad gave Russell his first deal, yeah, at 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:29.280 Spring with a record called Dollar Billio by Jimmy Spicer. 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:36.200 So I kept on just they just kept me on 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:40.080 the road and I just started networking and just meeting 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:41.840 like all these colds you said, they keep you want 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:44.600 to go about like artists only two months label, well 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:47.520 the label was really my dad's label, but I really 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:49.279 wasn't working for him. He was just trying to see 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:52.280 if I had any heart and any balls to do this. 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:55.480 And you know, look at that difficult There was no GPS. 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:56.839 You would have to take out a map and just 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:58.720 figure out how you gonna get from Atlanta to Alabama. 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:03.680 And just like the paper, no cell phones, so you'd 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:06.120 have to walk around. You know, every night I left, 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:08.960 it would be like ten dollars worth of Cortis and 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:14.480 just so okay. So when it was when was it 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:16.640 with the point where you said, this is a street 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:22.039 team like like this this is that was because most 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:24.520 other labels hiring you to do that. This was something 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:27.560 he was doing. So the marketing company I had before 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:30.280 there was Loud, there was a Stephen Rifkin Company, right, 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:34.760 so that was the mark. Yeah, I thought was after 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:38.760 Loud it just tace. That was the second record with 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:44.719 So Stephen Rifkin Company was an independent promotion company, right. 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:49.839 So I moved Metachick moved out to a hooked up 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:53.440 with a company called The Delicious. Final they had yet 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:58.400 to Young City, so new Heavies were on, did the 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:01.400 whole campaign for all these records, and it was just 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:05.640 now putting the street team together. They moved, They moved, 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:07.760 and I really always wanted to have my own company 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:09.040 because I was like, you know, I'm going to keep 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:11.640 your guys office. So I think I had three thousand 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:15.200 dollars to my name, and I made brochures and I 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:19.240 was going to New York for um my cousin's wedding 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:23.279 and I sent um all the broshures that have to 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:25.839 all the different labels, and I came back with a 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:30.920 hundred dollars worth of business. Yeah, like I said, I 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:32.960 put I sent every record company and I just said, 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:35.599 this is what we're gonna handle. We're gonna handle B Team, 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:37.720 gonna handle empty pe, We're gonna handle college radio. We're 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:41.560 gonna handle mixshow radio. And it was never about and 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:47.120 it was never about mainstream radio and not coming with you, 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:49.760 I mean with the mix show power Summers came from 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:53.279 but like because like that was that came from her name, 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:55.839 but that came like in the midnight and that and 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:58.440 that was after how can I Be Down? To how 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:00.520 can I Be down? Sort of inspiring all that though, Okay, 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:04.359 what was Jack the Rapper was the first one? The original? 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:07.480 That the original? So it's Jack the Rapper, Then it's 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:11.120 what thenn it's how can I do that? Then it's 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:14.520 but there was a convention that I want to the 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:19.080 college radio the Gavin Report. But my dad took me 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:20.720 to a convention when I was eighteen years old. I 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:22.280 mean it was just was in Miami and they took 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:24.200 him that hotel. It was called the Non Convention and 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:26.920 it was mostly your sales convention. It just happened right now. 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:30.840 But the pushy there was like holy shi the pussy 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:37.160 was we weren't ready. I mean, it was just ridiculous. 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:38.400 I was like, Wow, I think I really want to 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:41.840 be in this Recordnisse and this is so boom. Now 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:46.360 you developed the street team, now Loud, I know, I'm 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:49.400 bouncing around that. Let's just just go because this was 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:53.160 this was like quit assentially, like if you were you know, 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:56.600 from an artist that just wanted to stay, an artist 0:07:57.600 --> 0:07:59.480 that was known that. Now lets you do what the 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:01.920 fun you have? Did you want to do? But I 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:04.600 gotta be honest with you. It started with Woultang Klan. 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:09.200 I can remember me seeing Protect your Neck for the 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:12.800 first time, and I'm like, no one cares about these people. 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:17.480 Like that was like definitely like so like what what what? 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:19.680 What was it? What was it like meeting? I know 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:23.280 we spoken who were the first artists signed the remember 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:26.840 seeing a Twister? Twister was the first artist and then 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:30.360 shortly after so it was Twister was a group out 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:32.839 of l A called Mad Cat that had caught a 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:35.959 nice little buzz. Now then the Lips and this is 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:39.679 your time in l A. That's inspiring. These last started 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:42.040 in l A. So that's why, because you're you're you're 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:44.319 coming out of New York at some point and it's 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:47.960 you're signing these underground l A artists exactly the Licks exhibit, 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:50.720 all these guys. So exhibit was after it was the Licks. 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:52.920 And then I was in New York to my thirty 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:56.839 first birthday and Rizzards just showed up after me trying 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:59.079 to reach him for three weeks and he was m rocking. 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:04.640 He was Prince Christop. So he comes up. I'm in 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:07.480 an office no bigger than this, no bigger than this table, 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:11.920 and I was with these swift from the alcoholics, and 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:13.400 he goes, do you mind if I bring the guys up? 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:17.520 He's shipping alcoholis the same No, Rizzi is saying that, 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:22.120 So the whole, the whole plan comes up office was 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:25.080 the size of this table. They put the record on, 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:29.280 they stopped performing. Is a protecting that it was protecting 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:32.920 that some guy comes running through the office And to 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:34.240 this day, I don't know if I was set up 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:37.880 by Rizzo or the guy really worked. And he says, 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:44.520 that's that ships that I've never seen him again, because 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:46.640 this is That's what I don't want to know for you. 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:49.679 Right at the time, you're a hip hop fan, all right, 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:52.000 and everything in hip hop, right if you was to 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:56.400 bring even component or people will compare us to markti Uh, 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:58.680 he was a great repair. You know. It's it's you 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:01.959 know they grant there that you rock him. Na, that's 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:06.840 rock him at the time when it's nine motherfucker's there 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:09.960 is not one fucking thing that you can compare them too. 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:13.400 So did that? Did that? Did that frustrate you? Didn't 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:17.439 because it seemed it wasn't intimidating either. So many people 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:22.640 just don't forget. I never considered myself and our guy, right, 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:25.760 I always consider myself a promotion guy. I mean that 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:30.160 that's what I came first. So before there was research, 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:34.280 there was right, I had the street chinga. So my 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:37.920 guy in Detroit is calling my a and our guy 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:41.440 on the West coast. This record is blowing the funk 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:45.840 up like white They white labeled it prior to they 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:48.960 were doing their own thing, one of the original records. 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:52.840 I never knew that they that original video was doing 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:58.600 doing it. Yeah, oh, never doing college college. I'm thinking, 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:00.480 I'm thinking when I first saw that, I was there's 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:02.679 no record label that they loved him. Man like you 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:05.640 about my first time seeing it, because you know you 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:09.520 have all this get William videos at the time. Later 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:13.640 we hype his first video. Wait a minute, did we 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:17.080 just go there? No? No, no open right now? How 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:20.079 many bottles are you opening? They just wanted to take 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:23.000 this back to the I'm sure I'll let you get 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:25.240 it again. Come on, may go still they goddamn well, 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:29.760 I can't hold on. You gave hypeers first. I'm almost positive. Okay, 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:34.280 I mean this is this, No, this is kind of 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:37.440 be also simple with with three and goest. I didn't 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:41.560 even realize that was like Canada. It's so simple, I 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:45.839 can't sing. Let me finish that. So okay, because we 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:50.319 bounced all around me meet businesses. It's nine of us, 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:53.800 because it wasn't tim at first, I was eight. It 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:58.240 was everybody but Kappa was away. It was away. Okay, 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:01.319 so you meet these guys. How was the first time 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:06.880 me hold dirty Bastard? I mean, every time I see 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:08.600 old dirty bast he was digging up his nose a 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:12.920 switter like every time. I've never really I don't I 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:15.120 think I've getting dating bastard or five. Like I've met 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:18.440 dirty bast like like forty five times in my life 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:21.880 and I'm probably getting a real five like twice because 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:23.760 I've always been like, yeah, come on, he's just always 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:28.320 he's just always a foul character around me with me 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:30.800 at a heart of goal, Like, I mean, I was 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:32.839 like big bro to him. I mean it was weird. 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:36.040 I mean it's never had one ounce, you know, like 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:38.800 the day that they ran, when he ran on the 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:41.440 stage in the Grammys when he said thanks for the children. 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:44.640 I lived across the street and I already knew that 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:47.319 we lost, like you know, we got the call and 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:50.200 he's like, well, how came you not going? I said, 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:52.000 we already lost. Man. He goes, I just put this 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:53.959 two thousand dollar suit, this, that, so on so on. 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:56.679 So after he jumps on stead what did it lose to? 0:12:56.760 --> 0:13:03.720 Lauren Hill has google um When he goes on stage, 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:07.600 he takes you know, the trophy, He comes to my house, 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:09.760 knocks on the door. It was like, how do I do? 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:15.800 H That was like hip hop's first vibral moment because 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:17.199 that was like you would do that all the time 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:19.800 I saw him, and how can I do? Where it was? 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:21.880 I think Capleton was performing. Were you there when he 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:24.680 jumped on stage and he did some crazy stuff and 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:27.160 it was he like interrupted the whole show. I'll tell 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:31.839 you a story. We were doing a performance at Gabin, 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:42.280 New Orleans. So, um, we're flying there, I'm with my 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:47.280 wife was pregnant with that first child, and I feel 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:49.000 like you're private. I feel like you're private. I feel 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:50.480 like he was like the first dude I knew frying 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:53.440 private plane. Get back, took back to that. Let's make 0:13:53.440 --> 0:14:01.079 some yeah, said pirate plane. He places you taking private 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:03.520 planes like it was like it was like changing drawers. 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:06.000 I'm not gonna live with they don't there loud boys, 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:11.680 but this was commercial. So I hear dirty, but as 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:13.400 the first of my food. First class was the first 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:16.720 first class taken that that I paid for him. So 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:20.520 we're sitting in first class and I heard dirty, and 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:25.960 he goes to his seat and I don't know what happened, 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:31.600 but he starts going off okay, and then the flight 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:36.640 attendant comes to me. They said, um, Mr Jones, his 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:40.960 last name was Jones, is requesting to see you. And 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:44.640 he's not the first class. He's on electric budget at 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:48.640 the time. Um, so I go, I have to talk 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:53.160 to him, and he just you know, I had a 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:57.360 feeling about the plane. So I was like, ship, maybe, 0:14:57.680 --> 0:14:59.840 then let's if you're having this feeling, I'm not gonna 0:14:59.840 --> 0:15:01.840 take and cancel. Let's get the fun up. He goes, 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:03.320 you're really gonna get off with me. I'm like here, 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:06.400 he goes, now, then we're good. Like as long as 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:09.120 I know that we're wait together, we're going down again. 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:13.360 I'm like, I'm like, I'm like show and he's like, yeah, 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:16.360 I'm positive. Right, I'm panicking the whole fucking flight. One 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:21.360 middle fucking bump. I'm just like, right, so and he's 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:24.640 at like a light sleeping and like before hours, you know, 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:28.160 my hands are like so, so I guess what I'm 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:32.520 trying to ask you, right, is this is like probably 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:36.280 the biggest gamble, right because having a nine people, I'm like, 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:41.600 having a four man group is just one man group. 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:47.520 So because because I imagined in the beginning they all 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:50.400 had one manager, I managed magetting, they all just listened 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:52.880 to reason, I imagine you can you can refute this. 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:55.360 This is just me being a fans. I really was 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:58.280 too young. I'm like a couple of years later, but 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:00.840 I imagine, but when I see it. Let's look at 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:04.320 the documentary. What was my was a brother name? I 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:06.160 can't imagine that it was when it was all pieces 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:08.600 and cream. But when is the moment where you saying 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:11.920 to myself, when you say to yourself, holy sh it, 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:16.440 I got we're going to be considered the new rock 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:20.720 stars and they're fucking signed to me, Like, when does 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:24.280 that moment hit you? It never really come on, Steve No, 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:28.040 I mean I was just you know, I found out 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:31.080 we went gold the day you got Sun got shot 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:35.400 damn um and this is the first album, just the 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:39.200 first Alba yeah, and all you know, my brothers with me, 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:49.359 who was my partner and God blesses, God bless um. 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:53.120 So it was like I never really thought it. To me, 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:55.680 was just always was. I always felt we were the underdog. 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:58.280 So to me, it was just always taking it to 0:16:58.320 --> 0:16:59.760 the next eleven. So if we went to gold, have 0:16:59.880 --> 0:17:03.280 we get the platinum? Everything like that. So let me 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:05.840 ask you, when you say it's great what you just said, 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:09.520 it felt like he was the underdog. I have to ask, well, 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:13.400 underdog compared to like puff Daddy, what they had going on, 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:17.600 def Jam or was it in this universal we were 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:19.960 at BMG at the time. But when I'm saying me 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:22.520 really just because I didn't know how to read the 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:24.439 right So I was twelve thirteen years old, you know, 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:28.200 my DELEXI me getting in trouble was like my family 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:30.560 always looked at me like, oh, he's you know, the 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:34.359 crazy one. Just that you know, my brother went to school. 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:36.040 I didn't go to school. He had a real job, 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:37.760 you know, he worked at Electric Records. He was the 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:42.240 youngest national promotion guy. So I'm talking about God. It 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:50.680 was his name again, Jonathan, Jonathan Johnson. We have a 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:54.960 whole lout sh but continued. So I just always felt 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:57.240 that was the end dog And it was like I 0:17:57.320 --> 0:18:01.640 never at I thought I was never in competition with Puff. 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:05.159 I never wanted to, you know, Puff was Did you 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:07.399 have a criteria when you were looking at these artists, 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:10.040 like you wanted something for you that you liked or 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:12.800 something that you thought was going to resonate? Were like 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:16.600 great questions, That's an amazing question. So with woud Tang, 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:20.320 I have a corny saying the streets don't buy right. 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:25.080 So my feedback from the Street team was just giving 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:27.760 me that information that I just knew we had something 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:31.480 when mob Deep came up to the office, I mean 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:33.760 proud of you. Wasn't there, but it was happening. And 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:38.040 just Twin Twin you know that that that HEP crew 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:42.240 and they created Ruckus from the second we had the 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:44.399 first meeting, and I was like, you know what, this 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:46.159 is the perfect follow up to what I'm going to 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:48.040 tell you. The energy people want to tell you as 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:52.120 a person that was living in the streets, like after Woutang, 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:54.119 like I'm going to tell you to be honest, this 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:56.800 is no one really thought Would Tang was going on 0:18:56.920 --> 0:19:00.040 like not only get signed, but when because it's a 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:03.640 difference to us in the hood getting signed, we thought 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:06.959 we won that ship meant nothing. Getting sign was one 0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:08.640 part of it. You have to actually go out there 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:10.840 and make some amazing records and things like that. But 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:14.280 when Wu Tang and the fact that you know, you 0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:18.520 would always see these artists like they'll they'll come out 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:20.400 and they'll get a little success and then they'll get 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:22.960 polished and then they have something, well Wou Tang, it 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:25.280 was like it didn't matter like if one of them 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:28.240 were Hollywood, like if a method man wore another pants 0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:30.239 or something, it would be like you knew ghost Face 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:32.919 would say something about it, like why are you doing that? 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:35.320 Like they all kept each other balanced. And this was 0:19:35.359 --> 0:19:38.600 the first time that I've seen hip hop like developed 0:19:38.640 --> 0:19:42.200 from star from just being startled and too mega startup 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:45.000 where these guys were in Japan and Itchy Bomb and 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:47.520 Kolniki Way and ship like that, and like you know 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:50.280 what I'm saying, like like this this is I'm wondering. 0:19:50.359 --> 0:19:53.320 Like you, you didn't sit back and just was like, Wow, 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:56.800 I didn't have time. Wow I didn't have to. There 0:19:56.840 --> 0:19:58.639 was Land. There was still the marketing company. So at 0:19:58.680 --> 0:20:01.280 that time, wo I was still promoting pretty much every 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:04.720 hip I break it into business. You're still working for 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:08.680 other labels. Yeah, so SRC is still a functioning comp 0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:11.600 as a street team or one of the marketing street 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:16.040 team and consulting the labels. So Leo calls in him 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:17.600 has to be mad at ship that you come on. 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:20.720 Doesn't want to help me get out of here? No, 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:24.040 I was just playing around. I want to know, let's 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:25.960 get out of here, because I think I think you 0:20:26.040 --> 0:20:28.439 might have scared him up. I think you do you 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:31.040 think I mean we just I mean, I guess did 0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:33.360 I go back and for us? Since some sixteen years old. Right. 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:38.000 But Leo on the other hand, to me, oh man, 0:20:38.080 --> 0:20:40.880 I'm sorry, I didn't I didn't expect to hear this. Yeah, 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:42.680 So when was the when was the moment you and 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:46.040 Leo you think fell out? We never really fell out, 0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:50.880 you know, but when I realized, like this is really 0:20:50.880 --> 0:20:53.640 a business, that it's that it's not love. And when 0:20:53.640 --> 0:20:57.520 he tried to stay flex Okay, that's right, from flexes 0:20:57.560 --> 0:21:01.880 down UM sixty minutes of funk, right. Oh, and Leo 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:05.399 came in trying to snap and snoop them. Okay, it 0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:08.800 makes sense, makes sense. They don't play that ship. You guys, 0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:10.280 two guys did not play that, can you When it 0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:12.840 comes to that? So what what what? What is that? 0:21:12.880 --> 0:21:16.920 From CEO to CEO? UM Okay, hit us out though, 0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:20.240 you set up Leo to to have one of the 0:21:20.280 --> 0:21:23.120 biggest acts ever because when you signed Loud, I think 0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:25.280 that UM still to this day is one of the 0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:31.320 most genius hip hop deals ever. Because I'm sorry, I'm 0:21:31.440 --> 0:21:33.359 thank you, thank you, thank you when you sound lu 0:21:33.480 --> 0:21:38.879 tang still but you allowed them to go out and 0:21:38.880 --> 0:21:40.960 and method Man was the first one that was signed 0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:44.159 to Deathcap. Actually Dirty was the first one signed to 0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:47.520 the lest your first My history is fucking getting fun 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:50.080 off snipped off? How close was it to the Deally 0:21:50.160 --> 0:21:55.200 y'all did? Wasn't it like time? No, it was maybe 0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:58.400 a month before because I thought pain, I thought bringing 0:21:58.400 --> 0:22:01.040 the pain. But Beth came, Meth came out of the 0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:03.679 action that broke out came first off again he had 0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:06.359 the NBT or TRAG record, right, so that which was 0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:10.960 a wood Tank record, right, so that jump started his 0:22:11.119 --> 0:22:15.479 solo career right. Then we came with Cream right, so 0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:18.200 that was Ray Go, I mean Ray Deck and Math 0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:21.680 on the hooking up. So and that record just death 0:22:21.720 --> 0:22:24.480 Cam signed them from there or Deathcam signed from the 0:22:24.560 --> 0:22:27.000 NBT record. Let me so, let me ask you, Ann 0:22:27.040 --> 0:22:30.159 known bouncing all over the place. Did they have to 0:22:30.160 --> 0:22:33.040 come to you for Clarence? No? So our deal was 0:22:33.080 --> 0:22:36.520 don't get start off as a single deal, the whole plan, 0:22:37.080 --> 0:22:39.200 the whole plan. Start up as a single deal. This 0:22:39.240 --> 0:22:43.119 is how many singles, just one singles, just one single, 0:22:43.160 --> 0:22:46.680 and if it hit a certain plateau about him turned 0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:50.639 into an app. Okay, So within the first week we 0:22:50.680 --> 0:22:55.119 did the first week, right, So our copies not the 0:22:55.160 --> 0:23:00.399 ship that they're doing now. So automatic I think goes 0:23:00.440 --> 0:23:05.360 into goes into the album Leland Russell Mass. I think 0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:08.320 it was a buck semi five, which was in those 0:23:08.400 --> 0:23:12.800 days like five million dollars and the open. Yeah, there 0:23:12.880 --> 0:23:15.119 was no I mean, as much as I wanted to 0:23:15.160 --> 0:23:18.320 match it, there was no way I couldn't match it 0:23:19.000 --> 0:23:24.359 at the time. At the time so Um and he 0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:27.600 wanted to be at depth Cham anyway. So I was like, 0:23:27.640 --> 0:23:35.160 you know what the talking bad. So in the late eighties, 0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:37.600 I was managing New Edition for a minute. Oh ship 0:23:41.400 --> 0:23:46.679 Mike so Um and Ralph was wanting to leave the 0:23:46.720 --> 0:23:50.280 group and everything and yeah, and that's why Johnny came in. 0:23:50.520 --> 0:23:52.359 So I was like, the group will always be bigger 0:23:52.359 --> 0:23:57.320 than the solo besides my besides Michael. So I was like, 0:23:57.480 --> 0:24:00.439 all right, you know, and to me it was about survival, right. 0:24:00.680 --> 0:24:02.399 I didn't consider myself. I didn't have an A and 0:24:02.400 --> 0:24:04.240 our staff yet. I had one guy in l A. 0:24:04.600 --> 0:24:06.879 I didn't have Maddie or Free yet or anything like that. 0:24:06.920 --> 0:24:08.320 So it was like, so you didn't have to sign 0:24:08.359 --> 0:24:10.760 off the math it was basically, but he did. He 0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:12.800 came to you as an adverse. They know they had 0:24:12.840 --> 0:24:15.800 to end the deal. We had first, right, Okay, first, Yeah, 0:24:15.800 --> 0:24:20.440 that's what I was getting there. So that's um, you 0:24:20.800 --> 0:24:23.560 have regretted that you haven't regretted like I mean, there's 0:24:23.560 --> 0:24:27.679 a lot of things I say, wouldn't have paid for it, 0:24:27.800 --> 0:24:32.399 you know. Um, I mean when Jane Day came, we 0:24:32.480 --> 0:24:36.680 get into that. Yeah, let's right now. So I mean 0:24:36.720 --> 0:24:39.600 I had a report to our c A. So we 0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:44.320 came out into blue your distribution be we we came 0:24:44.320 --> 0:24:46.399 out of a blue people based in l A. I 0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:51.600 was creat creating, having you know, I was spontify fucking nuts, right, 0:24:51.640 --> 0:24:53.479 I had a temper everything else like that, so I 0:24:53.520 --> 0:24:57.879 wasn't allowing um our say to shoot on us, you know. 0:24:57.960 --> 0:25:00.280 And then we got lucky. There was a guy who 0:25:00.320 --> 0:25:02.600 after he turned into a brother rows got the name 0:25:02.600 --> 0:25:06.040 of Mojo Nicosia, who was a promotion guy at our 0:25:06.119 --> 0:25:09.720 c A. And we just brought him into our family. 0:25:10.200 --> 0:25:14.120 And you know, this this guy Jesse, he stayed at 0:25:14.119 --> 0:25:17.600 our CIA and just busted his ass and he went 0:25:18.000 --> 0:25:21.240 on a van and he zigzagged across the country with 0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:25.800 the group on our CIA Stein you know that, you know, 0:25:25.880 --> 0:25:28.119 and then you know he got hit by a truck 0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:31.600 helping promote, you know, promoting our stuff. So and it 0:25:31.720 --> 0:25:36.240 was like when he got yeah, when he um, when 0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:39.680 he was halfway healed, I said, funk, you're coming with us, 0:25:40.440 --> 0:25:42.840 you know. And then him and my brother and then 0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:49.639 there's Rich Isaacson. They literally ran the company. Um so 0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:54.200 they literally you know, round the company, Johnson Mojo around 0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:58.359 the whole streets and radio Rich rand the company. And 0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:00.639 it was really you know, the four of us that 0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:02.760 just you know, and then we brought in Maddie and 0:26:02.760 --> 0:26:05.560 then we brought in Free as already and our guys 0:26:05.600 --> 0:26:08.200 and you know as Loud had a motherfucking run man, 0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:11.520 Holy block. The movie. I mean it defined like the 0:26:11.560 --> 0:26:14.320 classic era that people talk about in like the early 0:26:14.359 --> 0:26:16.439 to mid nineties of hip hop that allowed to me 0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:21.560 to find it. Yeah. Now, okay, Boom the Clan drops 0:26:21.560 --> 0:26:23.680 thirty six shapes, right you know you you know you 0:26:23.760 --> 0:26:26.879 got you know, you got the new Mega Stars, right Boom, 0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:31.040 But no Method Man Um and Method Man is at death, 0:26:31.200 --> 0:26:40.399 jam Old b is at electric exactly. Yeah, Boom, but 0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:44.000 didn't you come out with another classic? But before that, okay, 0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:48.960 I'm trying to sign Mike drown him wow before Mark, 0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:52.119 this is okay, this is right around Oh yeah, at 0:26:52.119 --> 0:26:57.760 the same time. So I meet her, okay, and we 0:26:57.800 --> 0:27:00.800 couldn't get this fucking sample quit for I forget the 0:27:00.840 --> 0:27:04.320 name of the single, but you know, but what it 0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:08.119 his first single one, right, So we couldn't get the 0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:12.879 sample cleard and and I actually said, just don't waste 0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:17.080 your time, and it's just focused on whoo and just 0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:20.080 and shook. One's starting to bubble. Oh yeah, that was 0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:24.280 that was a great But I don't know, but if 0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:27.280 if we did the deal with her, you would have 0:27:27.280 --> 0:27:33.000 got J baby a lot of DM DMX. I mean, 0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:35.040 it would have been it would have been a game changer. 0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:37.359 It would it would have been a whole different start. 0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:43.960 And they went to t VT with Steve Gottlieb like Gerano, Wow, 0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:46.720 So who do you think it's crazier O d V 0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:54.240 or DMX. I managed DMX. Now that's what I got. 0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:01.439 I mean, I don't look at it as crazy. I 0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:05.760 mean I look at it as just passionate, just genius 0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:09.800 they both. I mean, I mean I wish and I 0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:11.520 told me like I would have loved to hurt a 0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:14.880 conversation between the two of them of love that too. 0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:19.280 But you got ten minutes to get one artist across 0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:24.560 the street ten minutes, right, and I just missed just 0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:27.879 for the rack of and you're gonna make ten million dollars. 0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:31.440 So you got old and I'm left and you got 0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:34.760 damn not tying buck. They're both engaged in having fun 0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:37.600 as it ticks around and like that. But there's one 0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:40.720 person you gotta get across, just between the two of them, 0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:43.240 between the twur the I would have probably had to 0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:45.280 go with Dirty. I mean, he was already easy. So 0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:47.640 you're saying Dirty is easier to work with the GMx. No, 0:28:47.680 --> 0:28:53.960 I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. Well, I'm 0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:57.160 saying because he was already in the group, so it's 0:28:57.200 --> 0:28:59.040 kind of like a team player already. I mean it 0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:01.440 was just like I already had that relationship with them, 0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:05.440 So it's easy. Okay, it's easy. Okay, Because let me 0:29:05.520 --> 0:29:08.800 just tell you something, Steve. You've worked with Pun Pun Pun, 0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:11.280 you worked with Faginal, you worked with some of the 0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:15.760 wildest boys, like you know what I mean, dead Press exhibit, 0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:22.960 Oh my god, alcoholics. They're still crazy to this day. Yeah. Like, 0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:25.520 there's there's people that people won't even be around, and 0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:28.680 you just did great this six do six Monthfia just 0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:34.760 had DJ um. Yeah, so like, um, like you talk 0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:38.600 the business with hip hops elite but also hip hop's 0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:48.520 elite crazies. I was crazy, goddamn make some noise. So um, 0:29:50.680 --> 0:29:52.640 you andle are getting back to that for a second, 0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:56.560 right nearly or cool. It's just you know, there's there's 0:29:57.360 --> 0:30:01.200 but you know you're is about We are in his 0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:04.480 team and you know what. I respect, But it's like 0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:08.520 fun everybody else, right, I respect that. Yeah, not as concerts. 0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:11.360 You're doing. This is the second one of this is 0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:13.200 the first is the first one. It's the first one 0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:15.880 because you do so we're gonna do We were gonna 0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:17.840 do it at the Predential Center in New York, in 0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:21.240 New York, Okay, And my heart really was like my 0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:27.640 dream was always Radio City. So um when Radio City 0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:35.960 came available, Wow, congratulations I pulled it from the Predential Center. Mhmm. 0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:38.800 You're coming right, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm definitely gonna try 0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:44.000 to make it happy. We need Yeah, listen, man, I 0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:47.840 think I think, for for one, I think that this 0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:51.800 is so important. I think that you're setting another trend 0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:54.920 the same way you did with the street teams, the 0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:58.240 same street team, the same way you did with Loud 0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:00.560 the same way you did with in the If out 0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:03.600 the Box thinking with signing people like I think this 0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:06.400 is it as well. I commended because the thing is 0:31:06.760 --> 0:31:11.720 your legacy is so rich like Loud um um. I 0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:15.200 I feel sorry for sometimes for this generation when I 0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:18.040 look at this generation and they don't have powerhouse like Alloud, 0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:20.440 and they don't have that rich history where you know, 0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:23.040 back then being from the hood and going to a 0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:26.000 record label, it was like going to paradise. Like even 0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:28.880 though like you're still in Chinatown or some ship, you 0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:30.600 know what I'm saying, You're not like lug of your 0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:32.520 part of the city, but just being out of the 0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:34.520 city and just I mean being out of the hood 0:31:34.560 --> 0:31:37.280 and just opportunity to being an opportunity to being able 0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:39.120 to sit down and smoke weed and get a haircut 0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:41.640 at the record label. Like and I'm I feel sorry 0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:43.760 that they don't really have that no more, like you 0:31:43.840 --> 0:31:45.840 know what I mean, like at home feeling like you know, 0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:48.800 when I remember, you know, seeing having and being they 0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:50.400 would just be happy to go to a Loud. Don't 0:31:50.440 --> 0:31:52.240 go to LOUD. I'm like, oh ship, Like what the 0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:55.239 is that? A club like that? That's how happy they 0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:58.320 were like that they their their album came out. I 0:31:58.400 --> 0:31:59.880 shut the office stand, we go want to the park 0:31:59.920 --> 0:32:02.880 to playball. God damn, this is the CEO of a 0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:09.200 c You can see yourself down like an artist friendly 0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:11.680 CEO because the CEOs don't funk with artists at all. 0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:14.480 And then this CEO is that this CEOs like, I know, 0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:18.400 I'm getting locked up. Call him bro. I never get 0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:21.640 to myself as CEO. I always consider myself the artist first, 0:32:22.120 --> 0:32:25.720 and I think that's why the labels were probably always 0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:28.760 always scanted me, because I'd ever looked at a budget. 0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:30.240 It was like, if the artists really needs that, it 0:32:30.320 --> 0:32:33.400 makes sense. All right, we'll going, you know, if it's 0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:36.880 me sending rich or Jonathan on Mojo, like we're doing 0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:40.760 whatever the funk we have to do to really to 0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:44.160 get this stunt. That's well, and this will get back 0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:47.200 to this concept you got, Mark d I got everybody. 0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:50.120 Are you going to say, I'm so surprised as you've 0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:52.680 got Come on, come on, let's tell us though, I mean, 0:32:52.920 --> 0:33:01.920 are you committing? This is just no because I really 0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:05.360 wanted people to come out. Um, I forget who's on 0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:07.080 the list that you got that I got everybody why 0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:10.080 I got woo wow. And when you say wotan clan, 0:33:10.160 --> 0:33:14.120 you ain't talking about got will you one of the 0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:16.160 people in the world again? One of them won the phone? 0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:18.520 He wasn't you manage her? Who tang too? Before we go? 0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:21.040 Not really mad? I mean me and Rizrael like brothers. 0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:25.560 It's like, Okay, Divine is the manager. Okay, okay, okay, 0:33:25.600 --> 0:33:29.480 well my mom and hopefully there'll be special guests doing prodigies. 0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:32.400 I might come out to give it up, give it 0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:36.400 up too much that I would. I would. Um, Joe 0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:40.200 and Remy are doing punk, Okay, I could do both sets. Yeah, 0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:43.720 Steve managing me right now, you're working both. Let's go 0:33:44.360 --> 0:33:57.640 dead President m op alcoholics, alcoholics Exhibit pretty six Fox, 0:33:57.760 --> 0:34:02.200 Pete Rock. Um, I'm trying to see what other label, 0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:05.480 other label can pull this all. I don't think so. 0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:08.160 And this is a tour, Let's be clear. I don't 0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:09.520 know if it's a toy yet. We're gonna see how 0:34:09.560 --> 0:34:13.560 the first one goes. No, it's a tour. Steve could 0:34:13.560 --> 0:34:17.759 be a great tour, but he's being careful. Get me wrong. 0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:20.919 It's a headache talk because this is like a venue tour. 0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:23.040 This is uh, this is a summer jam tour like 0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:25.719 but this could be just could be a festival. That's 0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:27.200 that's what I'm that's that's what I'm trying to get that. 0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:30.640 Thank you, thank you. Um no, we got everybody and 0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:32.759 the surprise guess are gonna be the surprise guys? Right? 0:34:33.360 --> 0:34:41.400 Holy ship? Elliott Wilson Okay, tell yeah, I ain't answering 0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:47.279 this question. He got her line, um so um so, 0:34:47.800 --> 0:34:49.200 so you you don't think I think it's I think 0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:50.600 it could be a tour. I think it would be 0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:53.040 a tour. I think it definitely could be a talk right, 0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:56.680 but let's you know, because because who who by themselves? 0:34:56.800 --> 0:34:59.360 Like I'm not gonna lie. I had to show what 0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:03.279 Wu Tang San Diego and that was one of the 0:35:03.360 --> 0:35:07.000 aircraft carriers. Yes, and oh my god still to this day, 0:35:07.120 --> 0:35:10.040 like I still like getting straight fan more like when 0:35:10.080 --> 0:35:12.480 I start seeing them like and then it's crazy because 0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:14.920 you know they're older now and you know before they 0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:17.399 used the clash on stage and like and now they're older, 0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:19.600 like so they like they know exactly where to be 0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:21.960 on stage at with time, and it's like it's like 0:35:22.080 --> 0:35:24.759 why for me, it's like watching the four Tops. So 0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:29.640 you know, like like you know, the Temptations or something 0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:31.239 like you know what I'm saying, But our version of 0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:33.719 the tempt tastes because they're not you know, dancing and 0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:35.440 holding the mic and thrown it on the floor and 0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:37.759 bringing it back up. But it's our version of that, 0:35:37.880 --> 0:35:39.040 you know what I mean. I love to see it 0:35:39.160 --> 0:35:42.160 like we did Australia a year ago, okay, at at 0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:44.520 the City our pre house, and I mean it just 0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:50.120 worked a perfection. I mean, mm hmm. That is that 0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:52.440 is that? Is that your favorite group you ever discovered? 0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:55.960 I know you can't say that. I mean, I mean 0:35:57.080 --> 0:35:59.759 it's your most proud moment. You know, we can't love 0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:01.719 change more than the other. But you know, you know 0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:06.879 there my first child there on my first plaque, okay, um. 0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:09.680 And you know with with the guys, I you know, 0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:12.120 I have a relationship with all of them. You know, 0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:15.200 me and Matth have the same birthday, so you know, um, 0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:18.160 me and still talk to three times a week. Me 0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:22.239 and Ray talk twice someone. Um so I see Matth 0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:24.800 give Mike Kaiser um dust Andrew Dust. It was the 0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:34.040 funniest thing in the world, he said. It was the 0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:35.840 funniest thing in the world. He was out in Vegas 0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:38.640 and you know, this is the time, and my guys 0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:40.759 were still like friends, Like he smokes weel and ship 0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:43.400 like that, and Math said, you'll Norri, don't smoke that 0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:48.319 blood said what he said? Everything else a little this one. 0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:50.439 So I said, you know what I'm smoking that, Yeah, 0:36:51.680 --> 0:36:55.120 say with it. I was a little mos and white 0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:58.120 guys that gave over. He had the blood and boy, 0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:00.600 it was a different thing. Man, is I'm gonna let 0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:05.000 you know my kind I got you. I'm not gonna 0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:08.360 blow it up my fellow, my brother I got But 0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:12.719 do you ever realized that, um, what is it called fraternity? 0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:16.880 Like you know, in college, you know, you guys go 0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:20.719 to you know, they do all this ship. But years 0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:23.359 later that's what a fraternity is. Years later they come 0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:24.920 and they see each other and they look out for 0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:27.359 each other. I feel like hip hop is finally at 0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:30.040 the stage of becoming a fraternity. Like if I was 0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:31.799 ever walk in the hotel and I was to see 0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:34.680 so Pepper, my first thing is let me make sure 0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:37.640 they okay, as opposed to like, yeah, you know what 0:37:37.680 --> 0:37:40.759 I'm saying, Like I'm automatically protective do you feel like 0:37:40.840 --> 0:37:43.080 hip hop is becoming this fraternity? I think it's been 0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:45.120 for a minute. I think it would be Okay, Okay, 0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:47.719 that's great. Even even with the divisions of the generations, 0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:50.440 it seems like like one thing is So for example, 0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:52.719 what why did you feel that right now was the 0:37:52.800 --> 0:37:55.239 time to do this concert? Was there a reason for it? 0:37:55.520 --> 0:37:58.799 Just came together that way? I saw a puff through 0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:01.560 his show which we were at the we were in 0:38:01.600 --> 0:38:06.800 the one in Vegas, right, right, So I went to 0:38:06.920 --> 0:38:09.600 the show in l A. And it blew my mind away, 0:38:10.200 --> 0:38:13.239 like literally just blew my mind with it. I'm coming 0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:18.120 off a heart attack, like and I'm watching this. And 0:38:18.200 --> 0:38:22.680 I remember texting him the next morning and saying, I 0:38:22.760 --> 0:38:25.279 saw Michael Jackson perform at the Apolo first time. After 0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:31.480 We've got to get back to this, right, so James Brown, right, 0:38:31.960 --> 0:38:33.920 and and I said, Pop, I've never seen a show 0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:36.640 like this in my life. And I said, I wonder 0:38:36.680 --> 0:38:38.560 if I could do it? And this was three years ago. 0:38:39.560 --> 0:38:43.239 So I had a heart attack, you know. So I'm 0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:46.120 just getting you know better, And then you know, I 0:38:46.160 --> 0:38:48.879 started working with you, So you know that took some time, 0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:53.920 and then the opportunity of this just Kane. So it's 0:38:53.960 --> 0:38:57.360 like a legacy show for you. I mean that's what 0:38:57.440 --> 0:38:59.759 I think that the Bad Boy one was a legacy thing. 0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:04.759 I mean this is this is more like when you 0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:07.319 said it's like I never took the time to smell 0:39:07.400 --> 0:39:10.279 the roses. Did Yeah, I believe I agree with you. Right, 0:39:10.440 --> 0:39:12.480 So I think this one I'm patting myself on the 0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:14.839 back and saying, hey, alright, look what it was, right, 0:39:14.920 --> 0:39:17.600 but it was, but it was puff show that really 0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:21.520 jumps off. Yeah. But I think I think this is 0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:25.480 definitely a tour. I think that um, we've interviewed everybody 0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:31.160 from like uh that press to having Pete Rock, Um 0:39:32.080 --> 0:39:35.640 obviously Wu Tang and um everyone always salute to as 0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:37.560 the you know, the o G the guy that you know, 0:39:37.920 --> 0:39:40.200 the CEO that was for the artist, you know what 0:39:40.239 --> 0:39:42.280 I mean. So I feel like I feel like everyone 0:39:42.400 --> 0:39:44.520 will come together and just be like, yo, man, let's 0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:46.520 get like you know, I don't want to say like 0:39:46.920 --> 0:39:49.160 like the last Hurrah, but like you remember how the 0:39:49.200 --> 0:39:51.399 Wayne way he did the last you know, the man 0:39:51.680 --> 0:39:53.560 and the last stance. Like I feel like this is 0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:55.640 for Loud, you know what I'm saying, Like for Loud, 0:39:55.640 --> 0:39:58.200 I think everyone will come together. You know we really 0:39:58.239 --> 0:40:01.360 for for artist. I mean, I gotta arrest it before 0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:06.120 throwing a chair through a glass door. Um, it happens 0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:11.080 for fighting for wou Tank getting the money that I 0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:14.479 felt they deserved a video, not not for a video. 0:40:14.760 --> 0:40:17.439 It was the renegotiation. It was for Rae Kwon solo 0:40:17.520 --> 0:40:21.520 record for Human Links, and it was for the wou 0:40:21.600 --> 0:40:23.800 Tank Forever album. So with our c A and I 0:40:23.880 --> 0:40:27.560 say dollars apart, I just give him the fucking money. 0:40:28.360 --> 0:40:31.359 And the business fans was a woman and she said, 0:40:31.400 --> 0:40:33.840 Stephen Riffin, I'm tired of your ship. I've never hit 0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:36.000 a woman in my life. But I took this chair 0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:39.520 and if I was facing this way with thirty six 0:40:39.560 --> 0:40:41.440 fours and it's going on Broadway, and I turned it 0:40:41.480 --> 0:40:43.320 around and I threw it through the glass door. Thirty 0:40:43.360 --> 0:40:49.080 six blows. You're taking the thirty six. So you know, 0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:57.439 the cops came, security came. Wow, that's great, that's great, 0:40:57.520 --> 0:41:00.320 that's great. Um, what do you feel about like the 0:41:00.440 --> 0:41:02.759 Me Too movement? Like because like you know, they got 0:41:02.840 --> 0:41:05.799 russelled like in Tahiti somewhere right now, they got him 0:41:05.800 --> 0:41:11.840 in Ted, he got himself. That's my man, but like, like, 0:41:12.080 --> 0:41:14.040 what do you feel about that? Like, like I don't 0:41:14.520 --> 0:41:17.359 I've personally see Russell be loose, but I've never seen 0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:21.160 him like the ship come on, like him raping somebody. 0:41:21.200 --> 0:41:22.560 I don't. I don't see that. I don't see what 0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:26.680 going on man um. I mean, Russell is like a 0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:32.520 brother to me, right, So you know, I wasn't around 0:41:32.840 --> 0:41:35.520 when you know, telling people are pressing trash from thirty 0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:37.640 five years ago, Like who the funk even remembers thirty 0:41:37.680 --> 0:41:40.200 five years that's crazy. So it was like, you know, 0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:43.440 he was always like even when he was when we 0:41:43.480 --> 0:41:45.520 had the Jimmy Spice record on my dad's Like, I mean, 0:41:47.160 --> 0:41:49.520 he was crazy, but he was always polite and just 0:41:49.680 --> 0:41:52.839 like you know, like Bill Cosby. I've seen some ship 0:41:52.960 --> 0:41:54.359 with Bill, Like you know what I mean, I ain't 0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:58.360 come on like Russell. Just Russell wasn't drug duging, like 0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:01.080 I don't see that, Like but Bill was slipping pills 0:42:01.120 --> 0:42:05.799 and she's like he got a little I ain't bills 0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:09.880 found Nick. I tell I'm just leave that alone. But so, 0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:15.200 but you have DAYD Gabriel Union. No, it wasn't Gabriel, No, 0:42:15.560 --> 0:42:19.160 it wasn't everybody. I know somebody and lacoln I was good. 0:42:19.160 --> 0:42:21.239 I was I'm going to live. Yeah, I thought it 0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:23.799 was both. No, no, God, it's just she's like a sister. 0:42:24.120 --> 0:42:37.160 She induced me later, that's art. She's a beautiful girl. 0:42:37.200 --> 0:42:42.080 How how does that happen? I mean, how didn't happen 0:42:42.120 --> 0:42:44.880 to me? He was pret this is pretty like TMZ 0:42:45.120 --> 0:42:47.800 days too. If you did eat you up in the 0:42:47.880 --> 0:42:50.480 TMZ days. No, they killed me, they killed you. Yeah, 0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:52.239 they killed him out. That was like because I just 0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:54.200 got out of my marriage and it was like they 0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:56.040 called her a home record and ship like that, and 0:42:56.160 --> 0:43:00.200 it was just like, get out there. Yeah, she wasn't 0:43:00.239 --> 0:43:05.279 home record. That's just clear her the way you said. 0:43:05.280 --> 0:43:09.160 You gotta say it with more basic please all right? Cool, 0:43:09.360 --> 0:43:11.239 So making up you're cool, but you're still cool, man, 0:43:12.200 --> 0:43:16.160 very cool. She's cool with my ex wife. Oh yeah. 0:43:16.840 --> 0:43:18.920 And at one point you left your wife and you 0:43:19.200 --> 0:43:22.359 um too. You took it down puffs like a maid 0:43:22.560 --> 0:43:35.239 or something like that. Right, you like, man, listen, But 0:43:35.360 --> 0:43:37.920 Stephen lived a life man in the same way I 0:43:38.000 --> 0:43:42.399 get rappers here and fair like you know, I listen 0:43:42.520 --> 0:43:45.279 listen as a married man. I admire when people were 0:43:45.320 --> 0:43:50.200 singing there days of being single and having fun because okay, 0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:52.840 don't worry. But you know that's kind I mean, the 0:43:52.920 --> 0:43:56.040 issue was, you know, I funked up. You know, oh shit, 0:43:56.480 --> 0:44:00.680 I didn't expect that. When I was single, I didn't 0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:04.319 have money. So you know, when these records started coming 0:44:04.400 --> 0:44:09.080 to check started coming, crazy ship change CEO checks is 0:44:09.120 --> 0:44:14.480 different talk. As I started with the BMG checks BMG, 0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:18.760 I just look at it. Let go. I just felt 0:44:18.800 --> 0:44:24.160 freaking like that we have used them because now now 0:44:24.640 --> 0:44:26.920 they believe you, right, because like now they didn't have 0:44:26.960 --> 0:44:29.600 a choice, they didn't have fucking I mean, now we 0:44:29.760 --> 0:44:31.320 just put them in the I mean it was just 0:44:31.520 --> 0:44:34.600 like they knew when I threw the chair, they knew 0:44:34.640 --> 0:44:37.200 I wasn't playing. Yeah. But but at one point, I 0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:40.200 remember fact Joe I said like, yo, man, I'm going 0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:42.480 on private jet with Steve River. And I was like, 0:44:42.680 --> 0:44:45.880 what the funk recently me back then, like I remember 0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:48.600 at one point you was taking private jet. So Quincy 0:44:48.680 --> 0:44:50.600 Jones termed me on to the pract of plants. I 0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:54.920 love how he his name dropped. Game is so nice, 0:44:55.600 --> 0:45:01.759 you know, Quincy Jones Jones, I was like, I goes 0:45:02.200 --> 0:45:05.480 a little bit, you know through the marketing company. I 0:45:05.600 --> 0:45:09.160 was in something Quincy's label in my mind. You you 0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:11.640 you're speaking to Quincy Jones. I was drinking a glass 0:45:11.640 --> 0:45:13.160 of wine and he said, what are you doing up 0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:19.360 commery show. No, this is imagining. I could me and 0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:23.919 my fiance, I'm talking about our wedding day and clost 0:45:23.960 --> 0:45:27.200 in the house called Rings and it's Quincy and I 0:45:27.280 --> 0:45:29.480 remember this like it was yesterday. He goes, hey, Steve, 0:45:29.560 --> 0:45:33.480 it's cute. I'm like, oh, he was cute. And I 0:45:33.560 --> 0:45:36.880 gotta and not an email. Brett Ratt and called me, 0:45:36.960 --> 0:45:38.919 who made the introduction, goes, Quincey is gonna be calling 0:45:38.960 --> 0:45:44.600 you man, name dropping, right, So Brett goes, Quincy is 0:45:44.600 --> 0:45:46.960 gonna be calling you just he want to talk to 0:45:47.000 --> 0:45:50.440 you help him consult his label. So he calls me 0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:54.800 and he goes, what are you doing tomorrow night? Like 0:45:55.400 --> 0:45:57.120 I don't know. He goes, have been with me. He goes, 0:45:57.120 --> 0:45:59.759 We're going to just place called Dre's. The finest women 0:45:59.800 --> 0:46:02.640 are finest women in l A would be there. Okay, 0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:05.680 I thought Dreves was in Vegas, but this, yeah, this 0:46:05.840 --> 0:46:07.600 is it was last thing and I gotta relaxed, and 0:46:07.640 --> 0:46:12.200 we just listened okay. So, um, I got me Quincy 0:46:13.440 --> 0:46:16.759 and it's like love at first sight, like then the woman. 0:46:16.880 --> 0:46:19.560 It's me and Quincy and like ten women, I mean, 0:46:19.680 --> 0:46:22.600 one more beautiful than the other. Because I want to 0:46:22.719 --> 0:46:24.600 bring you in as a consultant. He goes, what are 0:46:24.640 --> 0:46:29.759 you doing next Monday? Next Tuesday, and I said nothing, 0:46:29.840 --> 0:46:31.719 goes come to Chicago with me. I'm doing open and 0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:35.000 I'm showcasing my new brand new waters. To me, new 0:46:35.080 --> 0:46:41.520 brand of water, no new artists, okay, to me brand water. Okay. So, um, 0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:50.200 I end up in Chicago with Quincy. You have flu together. Yeah, 0:46:50.320 --> 0:46:55.080 on his plane to Chicago and I was like, just 0:46:55.200 --> 0:46:59.799 as you said, no more, no more American, I mean 0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:04.720 see you later. United took goodbye. So for two years, 0:47:05.360 --> 0:47:09.439 whenever wherever Quincy went, I went, and it was just well, 0:47:09.520 --> 0:47:13.520 so he taught me how to play with money. Wow, 0:47:14.320 --> 0:47:18.480 and that's where you private change. Yeah. So I was like, well, 0:47:18.560 --> 0:47:22.239 like I think when the Sony check came then I 0:47:22.360 --> 0:47:27.200 was like, funck y'all, this is that Joel's questions. Joel said, um, 0:47:27.360 --> 0:47:29.160 let me just pull up it's questions. So you know 0:47:29.200 --> 0:47:34.080 when I that's when I do interviews. He says, how 0:47:34.200 --> 0:47:38.400 much dough did he blow? And then how big of 0:47:38.520 --> 0:47:42.359 a deal did he do with Sony? Because that must 0:47:42.400 --> 0:47:45.560 have been your that must have been your fuck you moment. 0:47:45.960 --> 0:47:48.080 That was a real fuck you moment, fuck you moment. 0:47:48.480 --> 0:47:55.040 This makes a moist of I could imagine, Thank you Tommy, 0:48:00.280 --> 0:48:02.600 get him on drink champs too. So this is this 0:48:02.760 --> 0:48:06.480 is after whoop tang works, this after everybody works. Everybody works. 0:48:07.200 --> 0:48:09.520 Now you have a choice to go anywhere in the world. 0:48:10.400 --> 0:48:15.279 But because it isn't r c a um, wasn't that 0:48:15.440 --> 0:48:18.800 merged into the same Sony system? Not yet? Alright, So 0:48:18.920 --> 0:48:24.040 break so breaking down. So Jimmy Ivy was my mentor, 0:48:24.760 --> 0:48:29.200 and he's so and he's paying me a shipload of 0:48:29.280 --> 0:48:32.279 money to consult, to consult Jesus at least getting money 0:48:32.320 --> 0:48:35.200 for everywhere Steve. So all Jimmy Captain saying to me 0:48:35.360 --> 0:48:37.880 is fuck the bottom line and just think about the 0:48:37.920 --> 0:48:44.720 top line. Right. So Quincy told me about planes, Jimmy 0:48:44.800 --> 0:48:48.400 told me about the chef and the driver. Jesus, they 0:48:48.440 --> 0:48:51.840 teach you how living life. None of these type of friends. 0:48:53.160 --> 0:48:57.200 So did you have me? And you gotta make it develops. 0:48:58.760 --> 0:49:05.800 You gotta way better friends. And I'm just like g So, 0:49:09.320 --> 0:49:11.640 I have a meeting with Strauss ell Nic and Pete 0:49:11.719 --> 0:49:14.000 Jones Strasonic was the CEO and b MG and Pete 0:49:14.080 --> 0:49:17.640 Jones was send Um Distribution and they said, you know, 0:49:18.040 --> 0:49:21.080 we need more profits from you, and I said, I'm 0:49:21.120 --> 0:49:24.920 not gonna do more profits. I'm I'm building these fucking artists. 0:49:25.080 --> 0:49:30.279 Fuck you like whatever happens happens. And the next day 0:49:30.320 --> 0:49:33.800 my locals, you know, they're willing to let you go. 0:49:36.120 --> 0:49:38.840 Who's what? Who's saying that when this you go? My 0:49:38.920 --> 0:49:43.719 attorney called me. He said, they're willing to let you go. Whoa. 0:49:44.200 --> 0:49:51.560 So it's Clyde Davis is free Grammy Part. I walk 0:49:51.600 --> 0:49:55.759 in there and it was like the red So you 0:49:55.800 --> 0:50:00.560 opened up like every like everybody just came at me. 0:50:00.920 --> 0:50:03.439 You know, Tommy this one, that one. And I didn't 0:50:03.440 --> 0:50:05.120 say a word you because I didn't even know, like 0:50:05.840 --> 0:50:09.279 because you're going too crazy for listeners. I mean say 0:50:09.360 --> 0:50:12.000 time you gotta say Tommy with Tommy say dull, you 0:50:12.040 --> 0:50:15.879 gotta say. They're just thinking like it's dolls from down 0:50:15.920 --> 0:50:21.320 to black and like the don't so to the university. 0:50:23.160 --> 0:50:26.760 Um So, every CEO of every music group is calling 0:50:27.560 --> 0:50:30.920 and they're kissing my ass during the whole fucking night, right, 0:50:31.120 --> 0:50:32.680 I didn't have a chance to tell my wife him. 0:50:34.440 --> 0:50:36.719 So she goes, what the fund is going on? I'm like, 0:50:37.360 --> 0:50:39.920 I said, I'll tell you when I get home. So 0:50:41.760 --> 0:50:46.400 I picked time because what they based on the meetings 0:50:46.760 --> 0:50:50.400 or no, So because you took everyone's meeting, I took 0:50:50.440 --> 0:50:55.960 everybody's meeting. Um, my first choice was really Jimmy, and 0:50:56.520 --> 0:51:00.520 but I don't know, something was up whatever. I think 0:51:00.560 --> 0:51:02.880 Jimmy was maybe redoing his deal or whatever. And I 0:51:03.000 --> 0:51:07.600 was like nah, and master P was really blowing up 0:51:07.640 --> 0:51:11.320 at that time. Priority Yeah, I mean he was just 0:51:11.360 --> 0:51:13.480 blowing I mean everything that he put out, I mean 0:51:13.600 --> 0:51:15.680 was going on planet. And I was like what, like, 0:51:15.920 --> 0:51:17.440 how the fun is he doing? I mean I know 0:51:17.520 --> 0:51:18.799 how he was doing it, but I wanted to see 0:51:18.840 --> 0:51:20.839 with my own eyes. So I went on a toy 0:51:20.880 --> 0:51:26.200 bus for six weeks, no by myself and I and 0:51:26.280 --> 0:51:27.960 I just did the South and just trying to get 0:51:28.000 --> 0:51:30.040 what are you trying to get a field of, like 0:51:30.280 --> 0:51:34.160 what the fund is really going? So three six Mafia 0:51:34.640 --> 0:51:38.680 was signed to Relativity and every and everybody everywhere that 0:51:38.840 --> 0:51:41.719 I went to was Alan Groenluck involved in that deal. 0:51:42.800 --> 0:51:45.759 I'm sure he was people's on Relativity to in the beginning. Yeah, 0:51:46.360 --> 0:51:50.520 so I was. But everybody everywhere I went, everybody started 0:51:50.520 --> 0:51:52.800 talking about the next thing topop, this three six mafia. 0:51:53.840 --> 0:51:55.239 So when me and Tommy had a meeting, he was 0:51:55.239 --> 0:51:57.480 who do you want to be at Columbia Epic? I said, 0:51:57.480 --> 0:52:01.360 I want Relativity? Wow, and he looked at me like 0:52:01.440 --> 0:52:04.759 I was on crack. You wanted to acquire Relativity. So 0:52:05.320 --> 0:52:07.440 so we didn't acquire it, but we emerged. It was 0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:10.920 the first time got into music business where you being 0:52:11.200 --> 0:52:15.920 with Sony to do that move. I had lab right, 0:52:16.120 --> 0:52:21.480 so what b MG out? So now I want I 0:52:21.560 --> 0:52:25.960 emerge woud into Relativity. So now we're the third major. 0:52:27.000 --> 0:52:29.920 So that's how you suggested, okay now, and I didn't 0:52:29.920 --> 0:52:32.400 really was three six and you were one of the 0:52:32.440 --> 0:52:36.440 first labels too. Besides obviously priority of master p to 0:52:36.800 --> 0:52:39.600 see that future in the South. Yeah. Well he was 0:52:39.640 --> 0:52:42.200 the first one. He was the first one. God bless, 0:52:43.400 --> 0:52:46.520 Holy Moly Guacamoa. This is history right here, man, this 0:52:46.680 --> 0:52:53.600 is history. Sold. He emerged, we emerged, and then we 0:52:53.719 --> 0:52:57.480 had one amazing year and then it just became too 0:52:57.560 --> 0:53:02.360 corporate for me. Yeah, it was like quarterly numbers, this numbers, 0:53:02.400 --> 0:53:07.000 that numbers, and I was miserable. Wow, wow, so what 0:53:07.160 --> 0:53:10.839 that's that's when you so basically all right, so you're 0:53:10.840 --> 0:53:13.680 saying you sold the company. Basically, yeah, sold the company. 0:53:13.680 --> 0:53:15.399 And I had not worked for the company that I sold, 0:53:15.640 --> 0:53:18.040 and so like so Russell, like for instance, Russell, I 0:53:18.080 --> 0:53:20.640 think Russell had to do that with Deaf Well Russell's 0:53:20.760 --> 0:53:26.279 I mean stayed leg became the CEO of right, so 0:53:26.440 --> 0:53:29.719 and you hated it. You hated because of your face, 0:53:30.200 --> 0:53:31.880 trying to convince him and be like, no, don't say that, 0:53:31.960 --> 0:53:36.719 and he's not. So I remember going to Hawaii with 0:53:36.920 --> 0:53:40.160 my son and my wife and I said, I think 0:53:40.160 --> 0:53:42.080 I'm gonna send Time in with Toller back his money 0:53:42.800 --> 0:53:49.960 ship and I'm just gonna leave, right And I'm playing ball, 0:53:51.440 --> 0:53:55.480 and I see these big to samoans coming running to 0:53:55.600 --> 0:54:00.120 the courts were tribe was there, and nobody knew or 0:54:00.160 --> 0:54:05.320 I was except for my mother. Um, and I'm like 0:54:05.800 --> 0:54:10.040 something somebody died, right, And they said, you have an 0:54:10.080 --> 0:54:14.960 emergency on the mainland. So I called my office and 0:54:15.080 --> 0:54:20.720 they just sent me straight to rich Yeah, and Bridge 0:54:20.760 --> 0:54:24.000 said Punt had a heart attack or he's not dead yet, 0:54:24.239 --> 0:54:28.439 So I called Joe and just as I called Joe, 0:54:28.920 --> 0:54:33.240 he just passed. And in my mind I was retirement. 0:54:33.280 --> 0:54:35.759 I think I was going to move to Hawaii. And 0:54:38.040 --> 0:54:39.560 I just got back from the wife to say the 0:54:39.640 --> 0:54:42.640 two that's crazy. That's why this story is sucking me 0:54:42.760 --> 0:54:46.839 up in a different way. But I continue. So I am, 0:54:49.920 --> 0:54:52.040 I'm like, who knows? And Joe said nobody said, I'm 0:54:52.040 --> 0:54:55.200 gonna call Angie because you know she was part of 0:54:55.400 --> 0:55:00.239 terrof spot in a crazy Martine Andrew Martine. Yeah, Um, 0:55:00.280 --> 0:55:04.880 I called the Angie. I told him, and I just 0:55:06.280 --> 0:55:08.520 like the letter that I wrote Tommy, I ripped up, 0:55:10.040 --> 0:55:12.279 jumped on the plane, dropped everybody off in l A 0:55:12.320 --> 0:55:14.880 and I watched, you know, straight to New York. But 0:55:17.120 --> 0:55:20.440 I didn't retire, but so I stayed there another to 0:55:20.640 --> 0:55:23.560 three years. But and you know, speaking on that, you know, 0:55:23.640 --> 0:55:25.759 Punt was like our closest friend, was one of our 0:55:25.800 --> 0:55:28.360 best friends. Um, I mean, you guys had that amazing 0:55:28.440 --> 0:55:32.040 record together. Yeah we have, we have. Yeah, but guys 0:55:32.080 --> 0:55:37.200 that you came up video yeah yeah, yeah, I'll tell 0:55:37.239 --> 0:55:39.000 you so that thank you for because I was about 0:55:39.000 --> 0:55:40.880 to go, thank you, thank you, Steve. You know, I 0:55:40.960 --> 0:55:43.880 was about to go like, you know, depressing, Yeah, depressing, 0:55:44.160 --> 0:55:46.399 and he just let me tell you something about that video. 0:55:47.920 --> 0:55:50.440 The reason why you guys had a two hour overridge 0:55:50.520 --> 0:55:53.280 on the video is because you remember the guy jumps 0:55:53.360 --> 0:55:56.560 from the thing. You know, Punny really wanted to do that. 0:55:57.239 --> 0:56:00.439 So the whole time punts like one's like, I don't 0:56:00.480 --> 0:56:02.759 even know stunt man and he's got me over there. 0:56:02.800 --> 0:56:05.320 He's like, right, Nori, and I'm like, fun, you know, 0:56:05.400 --> 0:56:07.200 you don't want to say right, because I know my 0:56:07.320 --> 0:56:10.040 friend is over When you can't jump over the fucking building, 0:56:10.280 --> 0:56:12.239 you know what's up on the building? He jumps over, 0:56:12.719 --> 0:56:14.719 So they so they have a stunt man there to 0:56:14.840 --> 0:56:17.920 do it. And the stuntman is like a hundred pounds 0:56:18.080 --> 0:56:20.200 like and punts like he's not gonna look like me, 0:56:20.920 --> 0:56:22.879 I'm gonna do it, And he kept trying to say 0:56:22.920 --> 0:56:25.080 your Nori, tell him that I could do it, and 0:56:25.160 --> 0:56:28.360 I'm like, there's no way you're gonna give you. But 0:56:28.680 --> 0:56:31.120 that's the that was the craziest funny part. So if 0:56:31.160 --> 0:56:33.480 you ever remember you had guys that like two hours 0:56:33.560 --> 0:56:36.239 over it, because I was sitting there like, nah, man, 0:56:36.280 --> 0:56:37.879 I can't I can't allow you to do it Pump, 0:56:37.920 --> 0:56:41.120 but Pump was punting. Really. You know. The beautiful thing 0:56:41.160 --> 0:56:44.320 about Punt is being a celebrity. He loves being a celebrity. 0:56:44.600 --> 0:56:47.840 And he never felt big, like he moved like he 0:56:48.000 --> 0:56:50.399 was lighted in. Everyone in this place like, I kid 0:56:50.440 --> 0:56:53.320 you not okay, So I'll tell you a great story, 0:56:53.920 --> 0:56:57.360 please still not a players blowing up, blowing up. He 0:56:57.480 --> 0:56:59.640 comes back from you know, doing the show. He buys 0:56:59.719 --> 0:57:03.160 himself with the most beautiful Cuban link bracelet. That's a 0:57:03.239 --> 0:57:05.600 big punish it and I was like, wow, show money 0:57:05.640 --> 0:57:08.600 really must be mad. He said, this bracelets beautiful. Right. 0:57:08.680 --> 0:57:10.640 He goes if he goes, if we go platinum, I'm 0:57:10.640 --> 0:57:16.920 gonna get you one. I go punt the shipping platinum. Right. 0:57:17.120 --> 0:57:19.800 He goes to me. I'm like, now we'll be at 0:57:19.840 --> 0:57:23.040 two million in a week, right, And I'm not thinking anything. 0:57:23.160 --> 0:57:25.080 So it's like, if we do four million, you know, 0:57:25.400 --> 0:57:27.160 you can get me something. And I'm working around, not 0:57:27.240 --> 0:57:30.000 even thinking. Cut to a year and a half day 0:57:30.040 --> 0:57:33.000 that we hit the four million rom that you know, 0:57:33.360 --> 0:57:36.640 whatever it is, and the guy don't even grow Hunter, 0:57:36.640 --> 0:57:39.840 who was our product manager, walks into my office. He goes, 0:57:39.880 --> 0:57:43.240 Punt wants to see you today, m to discuss the 0:57:43.320 --> 0:57:46.680 next album. So I'm like, all right, So I called Joe. 0:57:46.760 --> 0:57:50.200 I'm like, hey, it's a cool pun wants to come in. 0:57:50.680 --> 0:57:54.760 He goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, comes in and I'm sucking 0:57:54.800 --> 0:57:56.440 around with him. I'm like, you know what, you gave 0:57:56.480 --> 0:57:58.360 me your word. You're gonna buy me a fucking Cuban 0:57:58.440 --> 0:58:00.920 link bracelet. You know when we went before me and 0:58:01.000 --> 0:58:04.080 we're at four point three and you don't have ship, 0:58:04.280 --> 0:58:07.520 I mean, I gave you my word reach just out 0:58:07.560 --> 0:58:11.400 of packet, goes fucking mother and he throws this box, 0:58:11.840 --> 0:58:15.840 you know, all all wrapped up with the most beautiful frame, 0:58:16.280 --> 0:58:18.560 like in a in a in a box with my 0:58:18.680 --> 0:58:22.439 name on it, all diamonds. Damn. It makes it looks 0:58:27.200 --> 0:58:30.680 so um, you know, not to like, you know, be 0:58:30.920 --> 0:58:34.440 all like you know, but from puning you have to 0:58:34.440 --> 0:58:37.760 speak about prodigy, Like where where was you at? You 0:58:37.880 --> 0:58:42.120 got dad news? I was here, My daughter was Miami, 0:58:42.560 --> 0:58:44.160 you say here before I was in four, I was 0:58:44.200 --> 0:58:47.200 in Florida, right, so yeah, my daughter was taking a 0:58:47.320 --> 0:58:52.560 road test complex and rich Eyes is kept on calling me, 0:58:53.880 --> 0:58:55.320 and I'm like, all right, something, I mean he's calling 0:58:55.360 --> 0:58:57.440 me like four times in a row. So it's the 0:58:57.480 --> 0:58:59.640 videos of bad news and I don't want to hear 0:58:59.720 --> 0:59:08.400 any thing until I see her. And he texted me, 0:59:08.720 --> 0:59:13.800 called me now urgent, Rich Rich, So I see my 0:59:13.920 --> 0:59:20.440 daughter coming in from taking her road tests and she passed. 0:59:21.520 --> 0:59:23.160 I'm like, now I'm on the phone with Rich. You guys, 0:59:23.160 --> 0:59:25.400 are you sitting down? I'm like, funk, what's just right? 0:59:25.800 --> 0:59:28.439 And I'm not sitting down. I go, what's the matter? 0:59:28.520 --> 0:59:32.240 He was? He died and she's walking in and I 0:59:32.360 --> 0:59:35.360 can't tell she passed and not passed. But I'm a 0:59:35.400 --> 0:59:44.600 sterical crying now and she passed. I couldn't really enjoy that, 0:59:46.240 --> 0:59:50.720 but it was just that was a hard one. Now 0:59:50.720 --> 0:59:54.400 I gotta be wound a little more. Apologies, but we're 0:59:54.400 --> 0:59:58.160 all on the subject. Now, your first group, your first sons, 0:59:58.240 --> 1:00:00.600 you like, you know, the first like you know child, 1:00:01.240 --> 1:00:03.680 it was like a Wu Tang clan. You know, you 1:00:03.760 --> 1:00:06.880 got cappadatta that went away or whatever. But the passing 1:00:06.960 --> 1:00:11.960 of od B comes home. He wasn't quite like Wu 1:00:12.080 --> 1:00:13.760 tan clan. When he came home. He was quite like 1:00:13.880 --> 1:00:16.120 like you would tell he was in like a confused state. 1:00:16.280 --> 1:00:17.520 And I want to say because I don't want to 1:00:17.520 --> 1:00:20.320 say he was Rockefeller or any of that. I just 1:00:20.440 --> 1:00:21.720 want to say that, you know, he just came home. 1:00:21.800 --> 1:00:25.160 He wanted to be in itself, but then he that 1:00:25.360 --> 1:00:27.520 he passes away, that has has to be there. So 1:00:28.000 --> 1:00:32.440 I'm flying. I'm flying to New York at m I 1:00:32.640 --> 1:00:34.960 land the second I put on my phone from the 1:00:35.000 --> 1:00:38.160 plane the way, I don't have LAD at the time anymore. 1:00:38.200 --> 1:00:41.760 Now I have SEC records, right, and a kind of 1:00:41.840 --> 1:00:43.760 is blowing the funk up at the same banners on it. 1:00:44.480 --> 1:00:52.000 It's locked up. So the vine calls wan and too 1:00:52.160 --> 1:00:55.120 dirty just past twenty minutes ago, my gel, he says, 1:00:55.160 --> 1:00:59.919 the studio. So I just went straight to the stud 1:01:00.080 --> 1:01:09.000 you his body was still that god damn like you know, 1:01:09.440 --> 1:01:14.640 um for people like who's CEOs, for people who's rappers, 1:01:14.760 --> 1:01:18.720 and people are just human beings like because you you 1:01:18.880 --> 1:01:21.800 you attached to this is not like you. You're not 1:01:21.920 --> 1:01:24.000 You're not one of those. I'm not comment with Toller. 1:01:24.040 --> 1:01:26.200 I'm not dug monst. I mean, you know, you know, 1:01:26.560 --> 1:01:28.200 you know without saying that, let me because you know, 1:01:28.880 --> 1:01:31.760 sometimes the audience might not understand that what I'm saying 1:01:31.920 --> 1:01:35.400 is you're human, like like you're a person that's involved, 1:01:35.480 --> 1:01:37.400 like you're not You're not looking at a person like 1:01:37.440 --> 1:01:41.440 there's numbers. So dealing with that, like how do you 1:01:41.600 --> 1:01:43.840 cope every day? Like like you know what I mean 1:01:43.960 --> 1:01:47.000 because I can imagine your artists, was your friends as well. 1:01:48.080 --> 1:01:52.000 I mean all of it really just just I mean, 1:01:52.400 --> 1:02:01.240 it takes and then you know, um, you know, dealing 1:02:01.280 --> 1:02:03.600 with the Punt that stayed and you know, you know unifact, 1:02:03.640 --> 1:02:05.760 Joe was one of my best friends and you know, 1:02:06.160 --> 1:02:07.720 like how did that just feel? Like you know what 1:02:07.800 --> 1:02:10.439 I'm saying, like saying, well, Punt was signed to Joe, 1:02:11.080 --> 1:02:15.920 so I never me and Punt had a relationship, but 1:02:16.240 --> 1:02:22.560 all business stuff. I dealt with Joe on the attorneys right, 1:02:22.760 --> 1:02:25.920 so you know. And the thing is, Joe gets a 1:02:26.000 --> 1:02:28.360 bad rap, you know for what people say, you know 1:02:28.400 --> 1:02:31.640 what you did with Punt, but it's really not true. 1:02:31.880 --> 1:02:35.680 But that's real ship. So I mean he treated Punk 1:02:35.800 --> 1:02:37.960 like a brother. I know, true Punk got everything that 1:02:38.040 --> 1:02:40.760 he deserved. Yeah I know that, I know that, but 1:02:40.840 --> 1:02:42.760 when I when I say it makes me feel like 1:02:42.800 --> 1:02:44.919 it just because you know, brother, Yeah, like I'm buying 1:02:45.040 --> 1:02:48.560 So that's why you I mean that was him, like 1:02:48.720 --> 1:02:49.880 you know, he said that you know what I mean. 1:02:50.240 --> 1:02:53.760 But Steve Man, I just want to um, I just 1:02:53.840 --> 1:02:56.680 want to reiterate you know how great you are Man. 1:02:56.760 --> 1:03:01.520 I appreciate UM. I know you for years and whenever 1:03:01.600 --> 1:03:04.160 I had one of your artists on the record, or 1:03:04.280 --> 1:03:07.600 whenever UM your artists, I've seen see you an out 1:03:07.680 --> 1:03:09.920 and dinner, it's just Steve always he's the greatest places 1:03:09.960 --> 1:03:11.800 in the world. You know what I'm saying. I don't 1:03:11.800 --> 1:03:13.919 know if I see you and you always kept your word, 1:03:14.040 --> 1:03:15.720 and I just want to salute you for that. You 1:03:15.760 --> 1:03:17.440 know what I'm saying. I want to salute you back 1:03:17.600 --> 1:03:22.120 when you was the when you was like you know, 1:03:22.280 --> 1:03:25.560 coming up in the game to the biggest in the game, 1:03:25.720 --> 1:03:29.680 to still like just maintain that your your your your bigness. 1:03:29.720 --> 1:03:32.360 He was always has been a person of your world. 1:03:32.440 --> 1:03:37.200 So now what is it? We got the concert? What 1:03:37.440 --> 1:03:40.120 is the next? And we can understand you're managing DMX 1:03:42.960 --> 1:03:45.200 as First of all, how is dm Max? He's good? 1:03:45.440 --> 1:03:47.960 He's good, He's good? Is he is? He okay? And 1:03:48.000 --> 1:03:50.040 he's on def JAM right, he's on def JAM. That's 1:03:50.040 --> 1:03:54.920 the beautiful thing that makes me d back. He's what 1:03:55.120 --> 1:03:58.240 depth jam? Um? I hear other podcasts critique you, and 1:03:58.320 --> 1:04:00.960 I hear other podcasts like, you know, actually diss you, 1:04:01.400 --> 1:04:04.280 and I'm gonna just tell you something there. I disagree 1:04:04.320 --> 1:04:07.400 with those podcasts in totality. The fact that you guys 1:04:08.040 --> 1:04:12.560 Dot L L cool J and d M Mex back 1:04:12.640 --> 1:04:14.960 on your roster. To me, that's kind of like dope, 1:04:15.080 --> 1:04:17.760 Like that's like loud starting to get with utank Klan. 1:04:18.320 --> 1:04:20.600 I would love that Paul's at the realm of so 1:04:21.280 --> 1:04:26.640 Paul at is that the real richest number two Paul, right, 1:04:26.840 --> 1:04:28.680 so pick him up. Even though I heard he's not 1:04:28.800 --> 1:04:32.640 fans of us, It's okay, really not in a bad way, 1:04:32.840 --> 1:04:34.360 not in a bad way. He just you know, he 1:04:34.480 --> 1:04:36.640 just don't want him to come on because we're smoking. Guy, 1:04:36.880 --> 1:04:40.120 Look Steve didn't smoking get high. We're having a great interview, 1:04:41.040 --> 1:04:43.480 a great example. I got a lot of He did 1:04:43.560 --> 1:04:45.640 not hate on us. I just heard he just you know, 1:04:45.960 --> 1:04:49.200 did block us. Okay, But Paul's a real hip hop 1:04:49.240 --> 1:04:54.960 pet guys back in the day, scam the guy he 1:04:55.080 --> 1:04:58.920 was just fall I respect to the fullest and then 1:04:59.200 --> 1:05:02.680 rich you know the pedigree. You know, it's like we 1:05:02.800 --> 1:05:06.480 both learned from my dad, right, so you know, even 1:05:06.520 --> 1:05:10.200 though you know he has thought Rich was Jonathan. Did 1:05:10.240 --> 1:05:12.240 you know the crazy ship? And I always thought Jonathan 1:05:12.360 --> 1:05:16.400 was Rich. That's the crazy thing. I was like Rich. 1:05:16.480 --> 1:05:19.080 So we all grew up around the corner from each other. 1:05:20.160 --> 1:05:23.000 This is Manhattan. No, this is a long hour. What 1:05:23.120 --> 1:05:27.200 part America? Listen to Merrick people? If you're American, y'all 1:05:27.240 --> 1:05:33.960 broken up? Yeah. So it's like we always had, you know, 1:05:35.120 --> 1:05:37.040 the dream, like all right, well all of it. You know. 1:05:37.160 --> 1:05:38.920 Rich was a lawyer by trade, went to law school, 1:05:38.920 --> 1:05:41.760 went to Ivy League school. Jonathan went to the University 1:05:41.800 --> 1:05:43.720 of Maryland. And it was always our dream to just 1:05:44.600 --> 1:05:49.040 always work together, like rock and Fellow, like like all 1:05:49.080 --> 1:05:51.640 these these great record labels. You are you a fan 1:05:51.720 --> 1:05:53.960 of these new record labels. I'm a fan of my 1:05:54.000 --> 1:05:57.360 son's new label. Oh what is that? My son has 1:05:57.400 --> 1:06:07.760 a jail through Atlantic quote chose chosen and and what's 1:06:07.840 --> 1:06:13.760 what think? His name is Alex, Alex Alex Ricky So 1:06:14.120 --> 1:06:17.480 and how he's doing it. He's taking a mixture of 1:06:17.760 --> 1:06:21.920 what's going on today, you know, digitally and then um 1:06:22.720 --> 1:06:25.320 my blueprint on how I did it. He's just signed 1:06:25.320 --> 1:06:29.800 al d Bastards. He just signed his kid out of Detroit, okay, 1:06:31.200 --> 1:06:34.240 which reminds you of an MP. You know, like he's 1:06:34.280 --> 1:06:36.440 on the road now, so it's like he's doing that. 1:06:37.000 --> 1:06:44.200 But then who like have conversations with SoundCloud, right that 1:06:44.920 --> 1:06:47.840 conversations with Spotify. But he's on the road, like he's 1:06:47.840 --> 1:06:49.520 living on the road away, I was living on the road. 1:06:49.600 --> 1:06:52.600 So the advice, so he did it at all. No, 1:06:52.800 --> 1:06:55.000 So he's a ballplayer. He played college ball, he played 1:06:55.040 --> 1:06:57.160 D one ball, everything, so he's taken. He took that 1:06:57.240 --> 1:07:01.360 work ethic, that's all. He took that work echic, work 1:07:01.400 --> 1:07:04.240 ethic and and put it to you know, like with 1:07:04.360 --> 1:07:06.240 somebody on his team was like a producer. You guys, 1:07:06.280 --> 1:07:09.080 you know this kid has incredible beats. Just that whatever, right, 1:07:09.400 --> 1:07:14.280 And the smoke is not that's okay me like and 1:07:14.480 --> 1:07:20.960 it was like it's not him, it's a smoke from 1:07:21.280 --> 1:07:27.080 from lost so he um, you know. So I'm really 1:07:27.240 --> 1:07:29.400 like he took his basketball work ethic or a sports 1:07:29.440 --> 1:07:33.280 work ethic and and just like like he you know, 1:07:34.160 --> 1:07:37.440 when we announced the show, you just like hate dad. 1:07:38.240 --> 1:07:41.600 It would be nice if his new artists was actually bubbling, 1:07:41.640 --> 1:07:43.240 not to get out of Detroit, but the Southern Cadet 1:07:43.280 --> 1:07:45.080 in Sia. Can you open it? Can he be the 1:07:45.120 --> 1:07:47.880 first one to open up to show? Yeah, of course, 1:07:48.120 --> 1:07:51.680 you know so New Yorker Radio City Music Hall. Yeah, 1:07:51.760 --> 1:07:54.320 it was a great fucking opportunity. So but I'm really 1:07:54.360 --> 1:07:56.440 proud of what he's doing. And then you know, my 1:07:56.600 --> 1:08:01.400 youngest son, it's a rapper ballplayer. So he made a record. Um, 1:08:02.920 --> 1:08:04.720 he's gonna company when he sees this. But it was like, 1:08:05.560 --> 1:08:07.560 the kid can really fucking spit because why they don't 1:08:07.640 --> 1:08:09.440 They don't want to. Now he's still in high school. 1:08:09.480 --> 1:08:11.200 Like you know, his team is like top five in 1:08:11.280 --> 1:08:13.960 the country. Brianie's on his teams. He waits on it, 1:08:14.040 --> 1:08:16.280 you know. So it's like, because you ever heard of 1:08:16.400 --> 1:08:19.960 Rapper Russ had a rap a rapper rust and Rapper 1:08:20.080 --> 1:08:23.920 Russ got on him and he was because people his 1:08:24.080 --> 1:08:25.880 father was in the industry, so they called him my 1:08:25.920 --> 1:08:29.599 industry plan and he hated that, you know what I mean. 1:08:29.680 --> 1:08:32.240 He hated that. So you think your kids would think 1:08:32.280 --> 1:08:34.519 that that's not My kids are on nothing to do it, 1:08:34.640 --> 1:08:37.639 like they're doing it all Like like I had ton 1:08:37.680 --> 1:08:40.000 of idea. Like when Ryan did this record and he 1:08:40.080 --> 1:08:42.519 did it with three of his friends, Alex called me 1:08:42.560 --> 1:08:45.400 because you hear the record. I'm like, what record? He goes, 1:08:45.479 --> 1:08:47.120 Ryan did the record this? And he goes, it's fire, 1:08:49.280 --> 1:08:51.559 sends me to record and I was like, holy ship, 1:08:51.920 --> 1:08:54.920 like the kids are like he I called him like 1:08:55.000 --> 1:09:00.400 Ryan who wrote? He goes either so you speak? Yeah, man, 1:09:03.560 --> 1:09:05.479 come on, let's get let's get a seat for John. Yeah, 1:09:05.720 --> 1:09:09.200 let's call Mr Leasey did you won? What about us? 1:09:09.560 --> 1:09:15.000 I think that's soon. Yeah, that's my older son. Cool. 1:09:15.720 --> 1:09:17.960 Do you mean the mike? Let's get him on min Yeah, Jonathan. 1:09:18.640 --> 1:09:20.960 You know there's a little shot where's Brandy ready left. 1:09:21.560 --> 1:09:27.200 He's land though, he's getting he's getting a signature, getting 1:09:27.200 --> 1:09:31.760 you're gonna happen. Randy might as one join come on. 1:09:32.800 --> 1:09:33.920 I don't know if you know this me and man, 1:09:33.960 --> 1:09:38.840 he would nes that's just camera hole. If we put 1:09:38.920 --> 1:09:42.439 him here this' that's too much guy. Yeah, it'll be 1:09:43.120 --> 1:09:45.720 all behind the scenes. Guys, that's what he says. That's 1:09:46.160 --> 1:09:55.400 the se guy that's in the sea. Nothing everybody not there. 1:09:58.600 --> 1:10:00.360 Let's make it work so he's comfortable when we can 1:10:00.400 --> 1:10:02.760 all look at each other's face. Oh damn, you just 1:10:03.560 --> 1:10:18.280 destroyed equipment. Actually, thanks, so leave didn't make sure that's 1:10:18.280 --> 1:10:22.640 a rock shine and to do stay too that we 1:10:22.840 --> 1:10:29.280 go because I've been getting pressure like like unbelievably like 1:10:34.240 --> 1:10:39.360 one more. Okay, man, don't taking this blind. Come on, 1:10:39.600 --> 1:10:43.280 come on, you're a legend, John, you gotta do it. 1:10:43.840 --> 1:10:45.640 Come on, you gotta be a head to come on 1:10:45.720 --> 1:10:47.400 the all a legend. Let's do it. I should have 1:10:47.439 --> 1:10:49.439 to drink on drink, Champs. You should have a drink 1:10:49.920 --> 1:10:53.160 to drink. Come drinks. All right, let's go have a shot. 1:10:54.200 --> 1:10:55.920 Ye I don't really small every more of a drink 1:10:56.160 --> 1:11:02.400 that I'm not gonna lie. I'm still with little Wayne. Yeah, 1:11:02.960 --> 1:11:08.400 bumble bumbo. I had a great sleep this morning, but 1:11:08.560 --> 1:11:10.400 I did not diet at all. I woke up and 1:11:10.479 --> 1:11:14.679 I eat like a motherfucking motherfucker. And I've been eating 1:11:14.680 --> 1:11:16.320 for two weeks. And I've been up the white where 1:11:16.360 --> 1:11:18.400 you said there I was. I didn't not me, bro, 1:11:18.800 --> 1:11:21.960 I ain't gonna because I've been. I've been. I've been 1:11:21.960 --> 1:11:24.639 the only thing you've been taking here, you know, I've 1:11:24.680 --> 1:11:28.840 been everywhere. The only place that I fucking I didn't 1:11:28.920 --> 1:11:31.240 enjoy was Hanno Lulu Bit because I went out there 1:11:31.320 --> 1:11:34.000 as I was performing. So I promised myself about to 1:11:34.240 --> 1:11:37.559 go back there, um, and I didn't. I played myself, 1:11:37.640 --> 1:11:40.439 so I gotta go back to honolulple. But mommy is 1:11:40.479 --> 1:11:43.280 my favorite. Yo, all eyes because you know I could 1:11:43.280 --> 1:11:45.280 bring my friends that you know on the run, you know, 1:11:45.479 --> 1:11:51.400 because I said that they can still go. Yeah, come on, 1:11:51.520 --> 1:11:57.320 we come. He's doing he's doing, Pie says, okay, free 1:11:57.360 --> 1:11:59.880 way for Usually we just go without what I've read it. 1:12:01.439 --> 1:12:04.320 I want this industry, talk on this industry. I want 1:12:04.360 --> 1:12:10.000 to be because e FN was the street team that 1:12:10.160 --> 1:12:13.519 you hire. That's here was our Miami guy. Yep, that's hard, 1:12:14.200 --> 1:12:19.120 that's hard. Did we high us? I'll tell you right now, 1:12:19.360 --> 1:12:26.519 trust me, he has at Okay, look he knows, he 1:12:26.640 --> 1:12:29.400 knows who it is. Watch this, he knows everything about it. 1:12:33.479 --> 1:12:37.080 Let's go. If wed be people Randy hand and we 1:12:37.160 --> 1:12:40.400 want John the motherfucker perfect of the hand. Are you 1:12:41.280 --> 1:12:44.479 tell you what? You're ready? You got something? You want 1:12:44.479 --> 1:12:47.720 some cheese? I got some mac chees coming to all right, 1:12:47.760 --> 1:12:51.120 We're ready. We're back, motherfucking drink chap listen, so listen, 1:12:51.760 --> 1:12:54.920 so listen. We just broke in. Oh god day. I 1:12:55.000 --> 1:12:59.120 love Boris sometimes some talk bos sometimes I love most 1:12:59.120 --> 1:13:04.880 of this. But we got motherfucking Randy Acker here, we 1:13:05.000 --> 1:13:08.679 got motherfucking Jonathan Rifkin here, and we got motherfucker's Steve 1:13:08.800 --> 1:13:10.840 Ripping here. These are the behind the scenes, are behind 1:13:10.920 --> 1:13:13.280 the scenes. So this is just I would like the 1:13:13.360 --> 1:13:16.160 call of people. This is a pure game right now? 1:13:16.680 --> 1:13:23.320 Do you understand pure game? Do you remember how louds run? 1:13:24.560 --> 1:13:28.360 And where were you out there when loud was just DESTROYINGO? 1:13:28.600 --> 1:13:32.600 Was you the opposite side? I don't know if I 1:13:32.720 --> 1:13:36.960 was the opposite side. I feel like I was. Yeah, 1:13:37.439 --> 1:13:39.679 before I was even in hip hop, I lived across 1:13:39.680 --> 1:13:42.280 the hall from Steve on Street when I was working 1:13:42.320 --> 1:13:46.799 at SPK Records with p Cave and Allies and Wilson 1:13:46.880 --> 1:13:56.200 Phillips and teenage meeting Ninja Turtsy whoa wild pitch Pendulum 1:13:56.240 --> 1:13:59.840 Records at them across the hall from Steve. That's where 1:13:59.840 --> 1:14:04.920 I'm main sort. Yea, yeah, jeez, Louise, Papa, jeez. So 1:14:05.080 --> 1:14:08.120 how y'all said, Yea, y'all didn't know that y'all was 1:14:08.160 --> 1:14:10.760 both in the music industry. We knew we did, but 1:14:10.840 --> 1:14:12.760 I really wasn't in his part of the business. Then. 1:14:12.800 --> 1:14:14.839 I was in e M. I I was in business affairs. 1:14:14.920 --> 1:14:18.400 I wasn't in Hippop, not until I got into death 1:14:18.479 --> 1:14:21.200 jam that. So he was on the appreciation for what 1:14:21.400 --> 1:14:24.080 he really had done. Right, So you used on the 1:14:24.200 --> 1:14:26.960 lawyer side at the time. We had literally each other, yes, okay, 1:14:27.040 --> 1:14:30.800 and you were and you knew it was popping. Yeah, 1:14:30.920 --> 1:14:33.040 he was. He was the guy I knew that. I 1:14:33.160 --> 1:14:36.960 just wasn't in it. I knew who he was for sure. 1:14:37.320 --> 1:14:43.479 So jeer, when was the first time you met Chris Lady? 1:14:45.360 --> 1:14:51.400 The first time at Chris Lady? Wow, UM had to 1:14:51.520 --> 1:14:56.200 be at seven forty one Broadway, eight forty Broadway, Um, 1:14:56.320 --> 1:15:00.639 that's that's that's the first first office UM in New York. 1:15:00.840 --> 1:15:07.599 And I think I met him with with I want 1:15:07.600 --> 1:15:10.360 to say, Peter Thomas. They were both how could I 1:15:10.400 --> 1:15:15.160 be down? I think they were both. They were both 1:15:16.000 --> 1:15:18.880 it's some way, shape or form. They were both working 1:15:18.920 --> 1:15:22.240 with Deft Jam and they were and they were they 1:15:22.280 --> 1:15:23.880 were up to the office. I don't know if they 1:15:23.920 --> 1:15:26.160 were together, but they were. I mean they were friends 1:15:26.240 --> 1:15:29.240 and Chris was, as you know, a great friend of mine. 1:15:30.120 --> 1:15:31.720 I was going to actually the same question. Two were 1:15:31.760 --> 1:15:34.120 the first time you met Chris Lady? And then I 1:15:34.120 --> 1:15:40.400 would just see Chris everywhere. Um shot can introduced me 1:15:40.479 --> 1:15:46.479 to Chris Flavor Unit Flavor. We're at it. You don't remember, Yeah, 1:15:47.720 --> 1:15:54.439 my office, you know, like wow, you know like and 1:15:54.560 --> 1:16:01.120 then um we just developed for relationship. Was he the 1:16:01.160 --> 1:16:06.080 one who broke Deep? Wow? So he wasn't managing Mam 1:16:06.160 --> 1:16:08.439 Deep a woman by name of Tammy. I forget how 1:16:08.520 --> 1:16:11.360 last name brought me. Had you even heard that first 1:16:11.400 --> 1:16:15.920 album they did? The premier was Executive? Yeah, from the 1:16:15.960 --> 1:16:21.600 back Yeah, and hasn't heard that in spof that's a 1:16:21.680 --> 1:16:23.800 hold on this story. When did you first meet Chris Lady? 1:16:24.160 --> 1:16:27.720 I met Chris Lady won sixty Barracks sheet was six. Yeah, 1:16:28.160 --> 1:16:31.320 that is death jam. The first Deep Tong King is 1:16:31.320 --> 1:16:34.920 across the street, and the next building across the street. 1:16:35.120 --> 1:16:39.600 That's probably like the ist like at that point the 1:16:39.680 --> 1:16:44.400 Arab that it was, it was bananas because Simmons I 1:16:44.640 --> 1:16:47.599 managed everybody, because Russell Management was in there as well. 1:16:50.320 --> 1:16:53.080 At that point, Violator had their label deal there. So 1:16:53.520 --> 1:16:56.680 Chris was in the bats watch the department. But the 1:16:56.720 --> 1:16:59.760 whole building was just out of control. I mean when 1:16:59.800 --> 1:17:03.320 I'm really really I had met Chris, but he got 1:17:03.400 --> 1:17:06.200 into an altercation with one of the artists. He was 1:17:06.320 --> 1:17:12.920 mistaken for being an artist brother, and it was that 1:17:13.040 --> 1:17:17.680 was like not the first day I met him, but uh, 1:17:19.439 --> 1:17:22.720 it had started to develop a relationship after that, like 1:17:22.840 --> 1:17:25.320 we had talked, we know each other, but um, you 1:17:25.400 --> 1:17:28.679 know because I had ended up working with X, which 1:17:28.760 --> 1:17:31.280 was very strange because I was a lawyer at def 1:17:31.400 --> 1:17:34.640 JAM and then somehow, I don't know, I guess when 1:17:34.640 --> 1:17:37.680 you're in a small company and it's exploding, it's all 1:17:38.240 --> 1:17:41.719 you know, everybody does whatever needs to happen. At that point, 1:17:41.800 --> 1:17:44.800 EARV had to kind of, you know, go be with 1:17:44.920 --> 1:17:46.880 job a little more and there's no one really be 1:17:47.040 --> 1:17:48.560 with X. And they were like, oh actor, you know 1:17:48.600 --> 1:17:53.000 the rough Riders. And I had no idea, but I 1:17:53.160 --> 1:17:58.960 just wet as this wet Chris was like he he's 1:17:59.040 --> 1:18:01.840 very mentoring, like he always was like very warm and 1:18:02.080 --> 1:18:04.800 welcoming and opening and wanted to share game with me 1:18:05.680 --> 1:18:07.320 and with other people not just me. I mean I 1:18:07.400 --> 1:18:10.080 just found him to be like that, alight. So so 1:18:10.320 --> 1:18:16.960 so before we get crazy, UM, I still don't believe 1:18:17.040 --> 1:18:21.400 Chris killed this though. I just need your your opinion. 1:18:21.880 --> 1:18:24.200 What do you think? I mean, I know how much 1:18:24.200 --> 1:18:27.400 he loved those kids, right, yes, So, I mean we 1:18:27.439 --> 1:18:30.240 all have kids, and I just no matter how down 1:18:31.439 --> 1:18:35.360 you know, I could be, I mean I wouldn't. I mean, 1:18:35.400 --> 1:18:38.519 his kids were in his life. So so basically you're 1:18:38.520 --> 1:18:40.599 saying you're with me. You don't believe me killed though 1:18:40.840 --> 1:18:45.200 you think it's a conspiracy theory something where I spoke 1:18:45.240 --> 1:18:49.000 to him that that what the day that he's supposed 1:18:49.040 --> 1:18:55.560 to kill hisself. Okay, you know what it was? I 1:18:55.680 --> 1:19:01.400 needed fifty for something, Yeah, okay, I think all right, so, um, 1:19:04.120 --> 1:19:08.000 these boxing promoters wanted to have a Floyd member the 1:19:08.080 --> 1:19:10.200 fight in the body and it would have been the 1:19:10.280 --> 1:19:15.080 biggest fight in the history of fights. Okay, and I 1:19:15.160 --> 1:19:20.080 needed fifty to get the Floyd. Wow. Sure, And you 1:19:20.160 --> 1:19:23.360 spoke to Chris that day. All right, Now, I've never 1:19:23.439 --> 1:19:25.240 heard this story. This is me, this is this is 1:19:25.280 --> 1:19:29.960 not even for me. This is me personally. He sounded 1:19:30.000 --> 1:19:32.000 like he was going to kill himself. Now he sounded 1:19:32.000 --> 1:19:35.080 like he was bad that then. I've never heard the stories. 1:19:35.400 --> 1:19:37.840 So this is you know that we had our laugh 1:19:38.040 --> 1:19:39.400 you guys, is that money to be made. I'm like, 1:19:39.520 --> 1:19:41.360 Chris would make my money on this one shot that 1:19:41.400 --> 1:19:45.840 we'll have to make it. Our lives because I just want, 1:19:45.920 --> 1:19:47.360 you know, to people to know that I've been saying 1:19:47.400 --> 1:19:49.320 this this. You know, I've been through doing this for 1:19:49.400 --> 1:19:52.439 four years consistently, we've been saying that. I've always said 1:19:52.479 --> 1:19:55.200 that I've never never believed that. Yet you know, I'm 1:19:55.240 --> 1:19:57.640 glad that you know you didn't even know that and 1:19:57.760 --> 1:19:59.960 you're you're giving your side of the story, and that's 1:20:00.000 --> 1:20:01.720 something awesome for me. Man, you know what I mean. 1:20:02.320 --> 1:20:05.880 But but but in that note, we talked about Big Pun, 1:20:06.560 --> 1:20:09.960 we talked about Prodigy, we talked about where don't you 1:20:10.000 --> 1:20:12.639 gonna say something about jay Z? So that we're coming 1:20:12.680 --> 1:20:14.759 back to that. But I just wanted for our fallen 1:20:14.840 --> 1:20:18.479 shoulders everyone that we just talked from, everybody from louds 1:20:18.560 --> 1:20:20.720 and everyone. We're gonna take a shot for them. Man, 1:20:20.800 --> 1:20:29.800 solo solo solo solo solo, and this is how do we? 1:20:29.960 --> 1:20:43.400 How do we wait? No more pronounced this boom combire. 1:20:43.800 --> 1:20:46.439 I got two great press stories, so you met Okay, okay, 1:20:46.479 --> 1:20:48.080 you want to go to press story because I got 1:20:48.160 --> 1:20:49.600 some car gate ship. I want to hit you with 1:20:49.680 --> 1:20:53.040 it because no, I didn't. I didn't manage kind of 1:20:53.160 --> 1:20:55.559 he was around him during the Make America had great 1:20:59.120 --> 1:21:02.840 wasn't something with merge. No, No, it ran like, oh 1:21:02.960 --> 1:21:05.200 that's right, but it was all because I don't know you, 1:21:05.840 --> 1:21:08.599 was you I'm not gonna make America great. I'm gonna 1:21:08.720 --> 1:21:11.760 make America great, but in my way, yes, yes, it's 1:21:11.760 --> 1:21:14.120 not maga exactly. I'm gonna tell you something about Kanye. 1:21:15.560 --> 1:21:17.160 I love him like a son. I love him like 1:21:17.280 --> 1:21:19.880 that's all. I want him to dispute my sneakers and 1:21:19.880 --> 1:21:23.200 they can only call me back. I mean, I don't know. Look, 1:21:23.240 --> 1:21:25.320 I want you to dispute my kid. He has a 1:21:25.479 --> 1:21:33.840 he has a heart of goal, and Kanye when he 1:21:33.960 --> 1:21:37.639 was wearing that, he doesn't want to be dictated to saying, hey, 1:21:37.760 --> 1:21:40.320 you gotta vote for Bob, you gott you know. So 1:21:40.439 --> 1:21:44.000 it's like he's his own man, so and he wants 1:21:44.040 --> 1:21:50.519 to make his choice. So whatever he says sometimes it's 1:21:50.560 --> 1:21:53.040 just it comes out of his heart the way he 1:21:53.120 --> 1:21:55.360 doesn't like. All right, let me bring it back and 1:21:55.479 --> 1:21:58.559 let let me say this movie. This guy has passion 1:21:58.840 --> 1:22:01.840 like this no tomorrow. When me and him when our 1:22:01.960 --> 1:22:05.040 on different way, like and it was neutral, he goes, 1:22:05.080 --> 1:22:06.400 I want to take care of you for two years. 1:22:07.760 --> 1:22:11.200 Don't have to do that, like forty hours later, you know, 1:22:11.400 --> 1:22:14.439 like a severance package type of thick. Yeah, and I'm like, yeah, 1:22:14.640 --> 1:22:17.759 just I'm here for you, just you know, whatever, whatever 1:22:17.840 --> 1:22:23.360 it is. Um. So when he wore the hat, I 1:22:23.439 --> 1:22:27.240 don't think he was doing it because he loves Trump 1:22:27.320 --> 1:22:30.000 so much. Because you remember the first picture it was 1:22:30.160 --> 1:22:36.000 it was him Lee or I took the picture, you know, 1:22:40.160 --> 1:22:43.880 Lucy and that's the guy from university. Oh my god, 1:22:44.560 --> 1:22:47.880 So did you know how this pictures are gonna go crazy? No? 1:22:47.960 --> 1:22:51.200 I wasn't even paying attention to the fucking act, right, Okay, 1:22:51.760 --> 1:22:57.280 So because he didn't see that use the shirt that 1:22:57.400 --> 1:23:04.680 he walked with free Laddy hoop, damn me, nobody saw that. 1:23:05.040 --> 1:23:12.320 No one's sold. Wow, that's you know cool. We have 1:23:12.400 --> 1:23:15.080 to put that picture up again. Even that out real quick, 1:23:15.200 --> 1:23:19.880 right yeah, okay, continue. So, I mean I think Kinnie 1:23:19.920 --> 1:23:23.439 doesn't want to make American read again, but his way, 1:23:24.680 --> 1:23:26.880 which you know, if he wants it to be a 1:23:26.920 --> 1:23:30.120 free America, right he you know, So it's not like 1:23:30.920 --> 1:23:33.439 I'm fort Trump. I mean, Trump just had that hat. 1:23:33.640 --> 1:23:36.360 I think Kindie is like, all right, let's your own mind. 1:23:36.360 --> 1:23:38.360 You can speak whatever the fun you want without worried 1:23:38.439 --> 1:23:41.479 like so outrage culture. Ship is going crazy like so 1:23:41.720 --> 1:23:45.479 that's really what it was. But the two years that 1:23:45.600 --> 1:23:47.920 we were together, I mean they were I mean I 1:23:47.960 --> 1:23:52.040 worked for so you wasn't almost that ship. Naomi was Yomi. 1:23:53.439 --> 1:23:59.760 Naomi wasn't wyoming for the album listing for the one 1:23:59.840 --> 1:24:07.040 just I would. It's not cool with me. I was 1:24:07.200 --> 1:24:10.960 not comfortable. So while so the first time was I 1:24:11.040 --> 1:24:16.200 think in Jackson right where we had the the album. 1:24:16.960 --> 1:24:19.439 I like the fourth season, whatever, the four that's the 1:24:19.439 --> 1:24:25.960 only And then around three months ago he called. He goes, 1:24:26.560 --> 1:24:28.800 if I send you a plane, it's not to send 1:24:28.840 --> 1:24:33.040 me send you a plane. Yeah, if I send you 1:24:33.080 --> 1:24:34.800 a plane, can you come see me. I need to 1:24:34.840 --> 1:24:39.640 talk to you. Okay, it doesn't tell you where not 1:24:40.120 --> 1:24:44.880 with him? So UM sent me the plane. We had 1:24:44.920 --> 1:24:46.920 our lunch, we had on meeting, we spent the night, 1:24:47.200 --> 1:24:50.920 and I flew back the next morning. But he really is. 1:24:51.160 --> 1:24:55.599 He's an amazing father. It's amazing. I think he's a genius. 1:24:55.720 --> 1:24:59.800 There's no let me tell you something. I went on 1:25:00.080 --> 1:25:04.400 Nick Cannon's show, right asked me about the album, and 1:25:04.479 --> 1:25:06.600 I can't like the album. I liked it, but you 1:25:06.720 --> 1:25:08.360 like it and you just you just feed me the 1:25:08.400 --> 1:25:11.040 whole time. No, like so, like I just said I 1:25:11.040 --> 1:25:12.960 didn't like the album. So people thought that like I 1:25:13.160 --> 1:25:15.599 was like being malicious about this kid. I didn't say 1:25:15.640 --> 1:25:19.439 that at all. I didn't giving your honest why are 1:25:19.479 --> 1:25:22.400 you in that's this argument? Your opinion? You could have 1:25:23.040 --> 1:25:25.160 said I didn't like him, like it was something personal 1:25:25.240 --> 1:25:28.160 for us, like Kanye his first daughter, his name, her 1:25:28.280 --> 1:25:31.680 nickname is Nori, Like why would I ever like disrespect? 1:25:31.760 --> 1:25:34.200 But I just gave my honest opinion, like I'm honored. 1:25:34.240 --> 1:25:37.280 Like the first time I met Kim Kardashian, Kevin kr Um, 1:25:38.200 --> 1:25:40.760 Kanye grab kicking on that Shi and walked to old 1:25:40.840 --> 1:25:44.400 over to me and said, this is who we named after, Nori. 1:25:44.720 --> 1:25:48.120 This is Nori I. This is real ship. Like this 1:25:48.240 --> 1:25:50.920 is on the E Hollywood channel. They blocked my face 1:25:50.920 --> 1:25:55.280 out because I ain't signing off, But you didn't get 1:25:55.840 --> 1:25:58.080 about I was just I was just throwing off. I 1:25:58.120 --> 1:25:59.760 was like, what the fun is going on? I didn't 1:25:59.800 --> 1:26:01.640 know you know what I mean? So like like it 1:26:01.760 --> 1:26:03.720 was like yeah, like they when they even just in 1:26:03.800 --> 1:26:07.360 the job doc, I was like, watched on y'all is 1:26:07.400 --> 1:26:09.439 one of the phone. But you know what I'm saying, 1:26:09.640 --> 1:26:12.599 but what I'm gonna say is like I didn't mean 1:26:12.840 --> 1:26:15.160 it to be malicious when I said that, I just 1:26:15.280 --> 1:26:18.240 disliked you just kick because I'm thinking this is a 1:26:18.320 --> 1:26:20.760 superior Rapp album when this kind of was a goschool album, 1:26:20.800 --> 1:26:23.160 and that's cool. That's cool. If I was talking there 1:26:23.280 --> 1:26:26.360 and they just took that line and just ran whateverything 1:26:26.360 --> 1:26:29.040 they never but happening. I was the other ninty nine 1:26:29.080 --> 1:26:32.080 episodes and Drink Chance. But I'm saying college drop out 1:26:32.080 --> 1:26:35.479 when I'm saying Kanye is a you know, I said 1:26:35.520 --> 1:26:38.160 I vote for Kanye for president. They just took it. 1:26:38.520 --> 1:26:42.000 They just took that one sound bite. And I didn't 1:26:42.040 --> 1:26:45.519 mind because I seen beauty what's my man's name, um 1:26:45.800 --> 1:26:49.120 a Car's brother. I've seen people and I was I 1:26:49.200 --> 1:26:50.920 was like, what's up and he was like what's up? 1:26:51.120 --> 1:26:53.120 He said what's up? I was like, tell Kryea one 1:26:53.920 --> 1:26:55.960 who on one drink Chance? And he looked at me like, 1:26:56.640 --> 1:26:59.920 you know you don't want car And I'm looking like, 1:27:00.160 --> 1:27:02.400 because this is this is technically I was having a 1:27:02.720 --> 1:27:07.080 conversation like we're not nothing's coming out of our mouths. 1:27:07.320 --> 1:27:09.680 Like I said, yo to Kanye at one more. He 1:27:09.720 --> 1:27:13.960 looked at me like in our mind stopped talking. He said, 1:27:14.680 --> 1:27:20.120 you don't I said, I'm and he's looking at He's like, no, 1:27:20.320 --> 1:27:23.680 I heard what you said. One statement. This is in 1:27:23.760 --> 1:27:28.439 our minds. I don't even know what this really So 1:27:28.920 --> 1:27:31.880 you don't have the seen Watson Homes. I went to ball. 1:27:32.200 --> 1:27:36.160 Watching homes is a nobody knows what watching the homes 1:27:36.280 --> 1:27:41.479 please pull it up, damn homes. I watched all though, 1:27:42.560 --> 1:27:44.800 for lack of a better term, I watch all the 1:27:45.000 --> 1:27:48.720 white movies, the white dumb movies, like like you know, 1:27:48.960 --> 1:27:52.200 the dumb and dumb mors. White watch it and watching. 1:27:52.600 --> 1:27:59.000 You don't know what I'm talking about. Now it's hum Yeah, yea, 1:28:00.920 --> 1:28:05.080 that ship is hilarious. I'm sorry I went too far. 1:28:05.120 --> 1:28:13.240 I went to so now Loud motherfucking Records. This motherfucking thing. 1:28:13.960 --> 1:28:16.400 You've been to, the bad Boy thing, it's this Loud Records. 1:28:16.400 --> 1:28:19.559 A tour Randy Actor. This is a tour. Oh yeah, 1:28:19.920 --> 1:28:21.840 I mean just that show he's doing. If you look 1:28:21.880 --> 1:28:24.280 down the listures bestally want to get to say a 1:28:24.360 --> 1:28:26.559 couple of prodsy verses. I think this is a toll 1:28:26.640 --> 1:28:29.559 tour with drink Champs a tax to it. I've heard 1:28:29.600 --> 1:28:37.800 that it's right because I'm looking at the flies. There's 1:28:37.800 --> 1:28:41.360 no host to the drowning out the motherfucker, you know 1:28:41.400 --> 1:28:49.360 what I mean? Any kind what all my kids? Jonathan 1:28:49.400 --> 1:28:52.880 said he should take drink Champs on the road with 1:28:53.200 --> 1:28:57.160 the loud toll. We are together like we've been fits back. 1:29:02.560 --> 1:29:04.920 I'll be honest with you know. The crazy thing is 1:29:05.800 --> 1:29:07.800 one of my best friends, one of my great friends. 1:29:07.840 --> 1:29:10.280 It's Bust the Rhunds, right, and I funk with him 1:29:10.320 --> 1:29:12.960 every leg two or three months, right, Like somebody would 1:29:12.960 --> 1:29:15.479 ask me like the biggest bag where they be like 1:29:15.640 --> 1:29:17.880 if you think Buster would take it? And I always 1:29:17.960 --> 1:29:19.800 funk a Buster because I know he's never wanted to 1:29:19.880 --> 1:29:21.920 do it. You know, I just trying to manage coom 1:29:21.960 --> 1:29:25.200 bust me. Let me just say something, my Buster, if 1:29:25.200 --> 1:29:27.160 you want to be funny, this is my brother list. 1:29:27.280 --> 1:29:31.719 This is the funniest joke. I won't deal with numbers, 1:29:31.920 --> 1:29:35.760 but let's just say this is the number Buster one. Right, 1:29:38.160 --> 1:29:40.960 you would give Buster to that same number plus a 1:29:41.040 --> 1:29:43.880 little something. But if you say it's an old school 1:29:44.000 --> 1:29:50.639 show you want to I don't know if it cool 1:29:50.720 --> 1:29:54.360 on the fund. I just sat you bring us to 1:29:54.439 --> 1:29:58.439 the the same bag. Baby one might be a little bigger, 1:29:59.360 --> 1:30:02.560 but Buster feels like, nah, I'm not old school, so 1:30:02.680 --> 1:30:06.439 I never have to do an old school show. And 1:30:06.680 --> 1:30:09.880 that is the most honorable thing that I can tell you. 1:30:10.000 --> 1:30:14.559 I'm gonna dude, like, that's honorable because me, I don't 1:30:14.560 --> 1:30:21.639 want to give a fuck. Old schools above the thirty 1:30:24.760 --> 1:30:31.800 called me old nigger basic and take two. I was 1:30:32.000 --> 1:30:34.880 there with that generation because I'm in the empty light 1:30:35.000 --> 1:30:37.080 of them. I don't get but listen, lem tate some 1:30:37.160 --> 1:30:42.160 of Bustter runs bro I've tried, And then for three 1:30:42.280 --> 1:30:44.680 years after I tried, I just funk with him, like 1:30:45.120 --> 1:30:46.800 if I ever bring him my offer, you just be 1:30:46.920 --> 1:30:50.559 looking at it like I know this somewhere that's old school, 1:30:52.040 --> 1:30:54.240 and listen, I'm gonna be honest. At first, I was like, 1:30:54.439 --> 1:30:58.040 you know's just crazy, But now like late years later, 1:30:58.640 --> 1:31:02.040 I realized, and I was because integrity. I respect his 1:31:02.240 --> 1:31:07.120 morals and I respect his stands. He is as a 1:31:07.200 --> 1:31:09.240 brother that's been in the hip hop logan all of 1:31:09.439 --> 1:31:13.679 us probably, But guess what if he wants to take 1:31:13.760 --> 1:31:17.080 that stands up he's in the middle of He's a genie. 1:31:18.280 --> 1:31:24.360 I have to respect him. He's a motherfucking genie in 1:31:24.479 --> 1:31:26.559 my hid speak, the bust of rockers on the floor 1:31:26.800 --> 1:31:29.719 on the phone, his ship is, he's just floating in there. 1:31:30.720 --> 1:31:33.840 He's just in there like he's a genie, and I 1:31:34.000 --> 1:31:36.320 respect him. He's my brother. So the first record I 1:31:36.360 --> 1:31:38.280 ever posted through the Street Team, like when I came 1:31:38.320 --> 1:31:41.840 at the Hunter party, was he just under the schools 1:31:42.240 --> 1:31:51.519 the PTN. It's just another case of yeah, don't anybody 1:31:52.840 --> 1:31:57.960 nobody's sick to look? What the fuck? Yeah, that's you know, 1:31:58.040 --> 1:32:03.240 you impress that record. Amazing record that record and Red 1:32:03.320 --> 1:32:08.680 Nubian slowed Down. Yeah so you did that. No, that 1:32:08.760 --> 1:32:10.519 was on electric. But those are the two first two 1:32:10.560 --> 1:32:14.439 records that I promoted it through, but through the efficient 1:32:14.439 --> 1:32:18.400 Street Team. Yet, do you think there's anything that you 1:32:18.520 --> 1:32:20.920 guys were doing in the Street Team era, like the 1:32:21.000 --> 1:32:24.479 physical Street Team era, that couldn't be applied today. I 1:32:24.560 --> 1:32:26.439 think you need both today, I really do. I mean 1:32:26.760 --> 1:32:29.360 to me, it's like when I go into a market, 1:32:31.840 --> 1:32:34.080 I'm going to a Walmart still and just hearing what 1:32:34.160 --> 1:32:37.760 people are talking at twelve one o'clock in the morn 1:32:38.680 --> 1:32:42.120 so and that was my thing. Listen, my father had 1:32:42.160 --> 1:32:45.559 one of the most successful labels. We didn't grow up 1:32:45.560 --> 1:32:47.920 on the street, right, so I always had to figure 1:32:47.920 --> 1:32:51.760 out what that advantage was for me. So when I 1:32:51.840 --> 1:32:54.080 put the street team together and we started making some noise. 1:32:54.160 --> 1:32:56.800 Now my wife and kids live in l A. But 1:32:56.880 --> 1:32:59.120 I was still spent one weekend night in a month here. 1:32:59.479 --> 1:33:04.200 So I would start off that um king plasm mall 1:33:05.280 --> 1:33:07.639 and go with one of the stores and just hang 1:33:07.680 --> 1:33:11.320 out and hear what the kids were saying. King's Plot 1:33:11.360 --> 1:33:13.680 in Brooklyn. Yeah okay. Then I ended up a few 1:33:13.760 --> 1:33:17.519 hours later Dr Jason thirty fourth Street and just I 1:33:17.560 --> 1:33:20.240 got to one of my best friends on training camp, 1:33:21.120 --> 1:33:25.000 Reme do you go sneak a store? And that's a 1:33:25.000 --> 1:33:32.519 great workers right, so you know, and I would I 1:33:32.520 --> 1:33:36.880 would end up working at training Camp like behind the 1:33:36.920 --> 1:33:39.400 kind of just hearing what you know, what this saying, 1:33:39.560 --> 1:33:41.240 and then I would end up at a place called 1:33:41.320 --> 1:33:45.839 DJ's in Washington Heights on and that would be my Saturday. 1:33:45.880 --> 1:33:48.040 I ain't a lot You sound like a cocaine dealer 1:33:50.840 --> 1:33:55.080 was so street, but I so I always came back 1:33:55.760 --> 1:33:59.040 to just like I always I'm a little competitive. So 1:33:59.200 --> 1:34:02.439 I had an up you know, m like, hey, you 1:34:02.479 --> 1:34:03.960 know about this you know, and they're looking at me like, 1:34:04.040 --> 1:34:06.320 how the fund is you? Knowing all this ship? But 1:34:06.400 --> 1:34:08.519 to be that one Saturday a month where I would 1:34:08.560 --> 1:34:11.160 start off in Brooklyn and up in Westernton nights, Now, 1:34:11.240 --> 1:34:14.280 how problem was it? Like? Because dead Press? Right, I'm 1:34:14.280 --> 1:34:17.040 gonna be honest, when you listen to dead Press lyrics, right, 1:34:17.920 --> 1:34:21.600 it's probably the most anti white lyrics that can probably be. 1:34:22.600 --> 1:34:25.920 How do you remove yourself from that? Like, you know, 1:34:26.160 --> 1:34:30.719 our fan of dead Press, that's hard. I didn't imagine 1:34:30.760 --> 1:34:34.360 that what I'm Florida, that's family and that's that's what 1:34:34.439 --> 1:34:36.439 of those people don't what I'm saying this like, how 1:34:36.479 --> 1:34:39.760 could you like because I always imagine, like you know, 1:34:39.880 --> 1:34:42.080 when I hear the public Enemy, and I realized that 1:34:42.960 --> 1:34:46.000 people that's pushing in Public Enemy was Leo cons and 1:34:46.080 --> 1:34:48.840 things like that, but I hadn't learned that later. And 1:34:49.040 --> 1:34:50.960 what I'm saying is like when you hear dead Press, 1:34:51.040 --> 1:34:54.439 there they they're just the most pro black Is people 1:34:54.560 --> 1:35:01.400 ever And you guys signed them all their music records 1:35:01.560 --> 1:35:04.439 speak the records were and you know what, at the 1:35:04.560 --> 1:35:08.920 end of the day there before me, right, But I 1:35:09.000 --> 1:35:10.840 could look at myself in the barr that I know 1:35:10.960 --> 1:35:13.439 I did right by them, right and whatever their belief saw, 1:35:13.520 --> 1:35:15.760 their belief saw do. I wish there was more of 1:35:15.840 --> 1:35:20.160 a trust because I wasn't the Antichrist, right if there 1:35:20.200 --> 1:35:23.160 wasn't real question other way, me and my pad, the 1:35:23.200 --> 1:35:26.000 way me and who had, the way Joe fun had, 1:35:26.520 --> 1:35:31.280 they might have been the biggest group I had. But 1:35:31.439 --> 1:35:34.919 prior to you even signing them, their ideology and their 1:35:35.000 --> 1:35:38.439 beliefs towards a certain group of people were that. It 1:35:38.600 --> 1:35:41.720 wasn't like they signed and then became that they were there. 1:35:41.760 --> 1:35:45.040 They were that from the from the get go. Jam Yeah, 1:35:45.040 --> 1:35:50.200 he's he brought them to me and you knew what Jaman. Yeah. 1:35:50.920 --> 1:35:54.920 So yeah, I mean that's that's that's that's it. That's ill, 1:35:55.160 --> 1:35:58.639 that's it. And so so I like even like didn't 1:35:58.640 --> 1:36:02.160 you work with Public Enemy? I did my first project 1:36:02.200 --> 1:36:05.599 when I walked in the door to works Public Enemy 1:36:05.640 --> 1:36:07.800 and he was at at some of the messages, so 1:36:07.960 --> 1:36:10.320 like like so how is that just like that like 1:36:10.479 --> 1:36:13.240 like help me like described like you know, because I 1:36:13.439 --> 1:36:18.280 mentioned like people you know, you guys are saying the 1:36:18.360 --> 1:36:22.599 people are they're saying it's not me, but they're still saying, 1:36:22.720 --> 1:36:26.439 like you know, it was a little tricky for me 1:36:26.479 --> 1:36:28.720 because I came in as the young lawyer and they 1:36:28.800 --> 1:36:32.080 were making a movie soundtrack with Spike Lee, who's also 1:36:32.120 --> 1:36:35.080 pretty confident. The right day, No, it was he got 1:36:35.160 --> 1:36:38.720 game and we did the soundtrack. So I had to 1:36:38.840 --> 1:36:41.080 get in and figure out all the deals. So I 1:36:41.160 --> 1:36:43.519 had to do a phone call with Chuck and Spike. 1:36:44.320 --> 1:36:51.360 You know, Spikes a legend, truck, a lawyer, you could 1:36:51.360 --> 1:37:01.639 have been whatever you doing. They went right into share 1:37:01.720 --> 1:37:05.320 croppers and the field of copyright and were stealing our stuff. 1:37:05.400 --> 1:37:08.760 And YO, tell that New York like it just went 1:37:08.960 --> 1:37:11.080 left right away. But you know, I tried to be 1:37:12.920 --> 1:37:16.000 you know, consilivatory. My job was just to get the 1:37:16.040 --> 1:37:18.960 deals done, what producers, records got to come out. So 1:37:19.040 --> 1:37:20.519 I just kind of took it. I wasn't going to 1:37:20.600 --> 1:37:24.120 get into the conversation of because I didn't even understand 1:37:24.240 --> 1:37:26.800 it at that point. It took a while to kind 1:37:26.840 --> 1:37:30.080 of understand that the subculture is a lot of the 1:37:30.600 --> 1:37:33.080 you know kind of things that dead Press would talk 1:37:33.120 --> 1:37:35.519 about or the five percenters that what Time would talk about. 1:37:35.560 --> 1:37:37.960 Like that job is to push that envelope and push 1:37:38.040 --> 1:37:41.200 that art form to the fringes, and that it is 1:37:41.240 --> 1:37:43.360 what it is. You know. The Dead Press came in 1:37:43.439 --> 1:37:45.880 with some tea shirts one day. I was like, can 1:37:45.960 --> 1:37:51.360 I have one? Give me ten bucks? I don't know 1:37:51.400 --> 1:37:57.719 if I was expect it's kind of they they didn't 1:37:57.720 --> 1:38:01.840 back down, right, So I did respect, right, and I 1:38:01.880 --> 1:38:03.920 gave him the time box. It wasn't where I wasn't 1:38:03.960 --> 1:38:06.080 where I paid for the shirt. It wasn't like, hey, 1:38:06.120 --> 1:38:08.920 I paid for you know. And I always looked at 1:38:08.960 --> 1:38:12.960 as like I'm not that I am. But it was 1:38:13.120 --> 1:38:17.719 like a situation we never had it. We never always polite, 1:38:17.960 --> 1:38:21.680 you know, like you never people. Yeah, I ran to 1:38:21.760 --> 1:38:25.920 stick yeah yeah right on the plane, yeah from here, 1:38:26.040 --> 1:38:28.680 from Atlantity here actually right, and we spoke you know 1:38:28.760 --> 1:38:30.840 for a two hours. I mean it was amazing. You know, 1:38:31.040 --> 1:38:35.600 I'm one, you know, called you know, to get this 1:38:35.720 --> 1:38:37.360 thing done. You know, it's like I really want to 1:38:37.640 --> 1:38:40.960 be it. So still I respect that. I respect that, 1:38:41.520 --> 1:38:44.280 you know what I mean? Like I was, I respected. 1:38:47.600 --> 1:38:50.479 Whatever happened. You're not gonna know this, but me and 1:38:50.560 --> 1:38:54.439 my boy Eddie, he's here. We worked the Loud Street team. 1:38:54.439 --> 1:39:00.240 We were the I told you he was, and then 1:39:00.280 --> 1:39:03.840 we took back that I told you he's gonna remember this. 1:39:04.560 --> 1:39:07.639 But I've always been wondering what happened to Buddha. Buddhist 1:39:07.680 --> 1:39:12.160 got me his brother, right, so Buddhism. Yeah, that's that's 1:39:12.160 --> 1:39:14.040 when we worked. That's when we were the street team 1:39:14.080 --> 1:39:18.320 was heavy and the whole reggae tone and just that's fine. 1:39:21.720 --> 1:39:26.200 Got me some Gobby's looking like he looking at half 1:39:26.240 --> 1:39:32.880 of a man. Yeah, yeah, he respect I'm so happy, 1:39:32.960 --> 1:39:35.840 not only I expect you, I love you and I'm 1:39:35.880 --> 1:39:37.760 happy for you. Got be like I'm not see like 1:39:37.880 --> 1:39:42.639 he got a super smile ship he like that, Scott, 1:39:42.680 --> 1:39:45.160 he just got a huge check. Oh yeah, I forget 1:39:45.200 --> 1:39:46.560 the kid that he just saw it. Just did a 1:39:46.640 --> 1:39:49.240 deal with something, become some new hot kids. Something crazy. 1:39:49.560 --> 1:39:54.360 I mean in the scope I don't even just not 1:39:54.439 --> 1:39:56.960 gonna say hip hop because because because he was like 1:39:57.200 --> 1:39:59.840 your guy, that's just you clear so got me. So 1:40:01.000 --> 1:40:04.160 it was bud was over there to write quarter we 1:40:04.200 --> 1:40:10.360 can rob every so so into this when I did 1:40:10.400 --> 1:40:14.920 the whole sap pole. Right. So, Buddhoo is the head 1:40:14.960 --> 1:40:18.519 of the street team. He brings his what seventeen years 1:40:18.520 --> 1:40:20.760 all at the time, right, so I'm in the back 1:40:20.800 --> 1:40:23.720 of he brings gobby. He brings gobby, right, So I 1:40:23.800 --> 1:40:26.479 have seventy five grand of kesh on for no reason. 1:40:26.880 --> 1:40:29.519 Just got to you know, let's make some wrist moers 1:40:29.600 --> 1:40:36.559 for the seven grand alright, So in those days, we're 1:40:36.600 --> 1:40:40.280 going on the road for six weeks. Yeah, I don't 1:40:40.320 --> 1:40:43.439 bring any clothes. Everything we go into, I just find 1:40:43.479 --> 1:40:47.720 a Nike town or just whatever, just just go. So 1:40:50.400 --> 1:40:52.960 I'm in the back of the bus and I hess 1:40:53.320 --> 1:40:55.439 somebody just I don't know who god he is, but 1:40:56.280 --> 1:40:58.840 I'm peeing in my pants. That's how hard on that 1:40:59.240 --> 1:41:04.040 whoever the he's you know, cracking on. So I said, 1:41:04.080 --> 1:41:07.280 you know what, you're staying with me, and you hold 1:41:07.320 --> 1:41:11.240 onto this bag and don't go in this bag. Just 1:41:11.880 --> 1:41:15.360 hold it with your life. So you know, like these 1:41:15.400 --> 1:41:18.680 tall buses, they can't talk in front of the bus, right, 1:41:18.760 --> 1:41:23.280 So we have to like fifteen days. I have twenty 1:41:23.400 --> 1:41:27.040 Nike bags now from just going to the foot lockers 1:41:27.080 --> 1:41:28.840 of the world. And he said, you know, wherever the 1:41:28.880 --> 1:41:31.320 funk we are, because I would buy clothes for the day, 1:41:32.200 --> 1:41:34.240 so he would have to bring it. I said, I'm 1:41:34.240 --> 1:41:36.960 gonna funk with him. Take a thousand dollars at any 1:41:37.000 --> 1:41:42.320 bad Yeah, and I'm like, who has his money? Like, 1:41:42.400 --> 1:41:45.160 we're missing a thousand dollars. Meanwhile, he's like choking himself 1:41:45.200 --> 1:41:49.439 because he has like twenty bags around this. He really 1:41:49.640 --> 1:41:51.439 so he really starts to have a panic at time. 1:41:53.200 --> 1:41:55.400 So got me and then I realized, you know what, 1:41:55.760 --> 1:41:59.160 this guy is a fucking soldier and he's the he's 1:41:59.240 --> 1:42:03.960 with me for life. So cut too. We come back 1:42:04.200 --> 1:42:07.920 from doing this tour. You know, somebody breaks into our stock. 1:42:08.160 --> 1:42:12.680 Remember the old start allowed jackets that we had never 1:42:12.760 --> 1:42:16.600 had one good continue, they break, they break in, and 1:42:16.680 --> 1:42:18.599 they still a hundred thousand illar was worth the jackets. 1:42:18.960 --> 1:42:25.320 Then no young was worth neither. Right, So the videotape, 1:42:25.840 --> 1:42:31.040 it's gott be his cousin and Buddhist cousin the medic 1:42:35.080 --> 1:42:46.600 So now they so they both are gonna quit. I'm like, 1:42:46.760 --> 1:42:49.120 you're not gonna quit, and I'm sucking around. I'm like, 1:42:49.439 --> 1:42:54.479 you just gonna bring me back a finger. So cut 1:42:54.560 --> 1:42:57.960 to two days later, my my cell phone and it's spooted. 1:42:58.000 --> 1:43:01.400 He goes, I don't have him, but I got his 1:43:01.479 --> 1:43:03.479 wife tied up. What you want me to get her finger? 1:43:11.240 --> 1:43:17.080 I'm supposed to make noise for them. That didn't happen. 1:43:17.120 --> 1:43:21.519 Actually there was no finger taking, but I mean, but 1:43:21.640 --> 1:43:23.920 it was like David, I mean, you talk about two 1:43:23.920 --> 1:43:27.320 guys that were just so fucking loyal. Now, that whole 1:43:27.400 --> 1:43:30.120 squad was incredible. Man, you guys were incredible to work with. 1:43:30.280 --> 1:43:33.880 You remember I remember being honor for like executive a 1:43:34.000 --> 1:43:37.720 year and my dad's with me. He's like, what his 1:43:37.840 --> 1:43:42.320 own gotta being Buddha because he fell in love with him. 1:43:42.520 --> 1:43:48.800 I said, watch, I'm at the Delano Hotel by the pool. Yeah, 1:43:49.040 --> 1:43:53.160 and gotta be Buddha at the hotel next door, right, 1:43:53.280 --> 1:43:55.120 I said, you know, we just went the two ways. 1:43:55.280 --> 1:43:59.479 I was like, get over here. Within thirty seconds you 1:43:59.560 --> 1:44:03.400 hit just team cars crashing like they just jumped out 1:44:03.400 --> 1:44:04.680 of the clock. Didn't put it in your pocket, just 1:44:04.840 --> 1:44:07.800 destroyed the whole, the whole right, and you hear it 1:44:07.840 --> 1:44:10.160 by the pool. I said. My father's like, what the 1:44:10.439 --> 1:44:20.320 guy that that's gotta be in Buddha. So if you 1:44:20.400 --> 1:44:25.599 had to do it all over again, is this something 1:44:25.680 --> 1:44:29.000 you you wouldn't do it? What would you wouldn't do 1:44:29.640 --> 1:44:33.080 I wouldn't have sold the sony damn stave. I'm gonna 1:44:33.080 --> 1:44:42.519 be honest. I need to understand why with Sony. We 1:44:42.640 --> 1:44:46.920 were the small fish in the ocean compared to MG 1:44:47.320 --> 1:44:53.280 being the big fish in the park. And if I 1:44:53.320 --> 1:44:55.640 didn't listen, as much as I love Jimmy, if I 1:44:55.800 --> 1:44:59.200 just just thought about the bottom line a little bit, 1:45:00.000 --> 1:45:02.320 was Jimmy was both forering you what Jimmy wasn't right. 1:45:02.360 --> 1:45:04.160 He was just saying, fuck BMG, don't worry about the 1:45:04.160 --> 1:45:05.840 bottom and they're making so much money if you this 1:45:05.920 --> 1:45:08.120 way that way market, youre this that bonusing up the 1:45:08.200 --> 1:45:11.920 ask And um, I mean and he was paying me, 1:45:12.000 --> 1:45:13.880 you should load of money. So you wish you would 1:45:13.880 --> 1:45:15.640 have went with Jimmy. No, I wish I would have 1:45:15.720 --> 1:45:19.320 just I should have stay. I would have just staged. 1:45:19.760 --> 1:45:21.320 He said, let me do what the funk I wanted 1:45:21.360 --> 1:45:24.840 to do. If if I wanted to change that, I'm 1:45:24.880 --> 1:45:26.760 sorry to cut you off, Steve, but it's that what 1:45:26.880 --> 1:45:30.000 do you what do you feel on that situation? Um? No, 1:45:30.080 --> 1:45:32.240 I think he has a point. But on the flip side, 1:45:32.360 --> 1:45:35.280 I mean, we did have a great opportunity at Sony 1:45:35.920 --> 1:45:39.120 with relativity, and I mean we did a hundred million 1:45:39.160 --> 1:45:44.240 dollars in building and in one quarter. Excuse me, tell 1:45:48.000 --> 1:45:53.800 let's need to say, was just him sorry that a 1:45:53.880 --> 1:45:58.360 hundred hundred one building cycle in the fourth quarter. The 1:45:58.640 --> 1:46:08.880 next thing to that, Jesus and not where I only 1:46:08.960 --> 1:46:12.680 are on def jam because the year before they put 1:46:12.720 --> 1:46:14.880 out the two d m X records, I think um 1:46:15.240 --> 1:46:18.160 and they had that crazy fourth quarters had a record 1:46:18.200 --> 1:46:25.360 at that time. I did not throw out too records. 1:46:25.439 --> 1:46:28.280 And yeah, I was a little guyn you were never 1:46:28.320 --> 1:46:31.439 a little guy. So I took ly was blue prods like, 1:46:31.479 --> 1:46:33.200 you know what, let's stack up the fourth quarter. So 1:46:33.320 --> 1:46:36.000 we had a Wool record, a Prodigy record, a three 1:46:36.080 --> 1:46:40.479 six Mafia recorded, an Exhibit record basically record, Yeah, a 1:46:40.560 --> 1:46:45.160 flex uh Flex record, Project Pat record, MLP record at 1:46:45.160 --> 1:46:48.439 that press record was going to Project Pat record as well. 1:46:56.320 --> 1:46:58.519 And Chris was up there at that time. No Chris, 1:46:58.840 --> 1:47:02.320 you know, Chris was was my manage from the beginning. 1:47:02.439 --> 1:47:04.000 I'm not gonna lie. Let me just tell you something. 1:47:04.000 --> 1:47:07.400 I don't know if you remember that when it came 1:47:07.479 --> 1:47:09.479 time for my soul, that was the thing. It was 1:47:09.680 --> 1:47:14.040 loud or it was definitely just like they kept going 1:47:14.080 --> 1:47:16.920 when they kept going, And the thing was Chris was like, man, 1:47:17.000 --> 1:47:20.200 you know what, I just I wanted to be mobb 1:47:20.320 --> 1:47:24.400 deep spelling, but I could have like like Chris told me, 1:47:24.520 --> 1:47:27.760 the kid kept real. It was just like, yo that 1:47:28.240 --> 1:47:29.920 if this is a queen's guy, let it be a 1:47:29.960 --> 1:47:32.240 mom deep Vieling. And that's the reason why I went 1:47:32.320 --> 1:47:35.439 to that chat. This is real ship, this is real ship. 1:47:35.680 --> 1:47:38.120 Steve was my land always like I don't give you 1:47:38.200 --> 1:47:41.240 coming away with me. I'm saying, but it was Chris. 1:47:41.439 --> 1:47:44.200 But that's why I wanted all you guys, you know, 1:47:44.520 --> 1:47:50.720 to share the story. But like so so so so 1:47:52.120 --> 1:47:54.320 you guys always worked. Okay, I'm sorry, No, I just 1:47:54.600 --> 1:47:58.360 I remember I remember a year man someone when we 1:47:58.520 --> 1:48:02.120 had was to BMG and our office in l A 1:48:02.280 --> 1:48:04.760 was in the BMG building and I think that's where 1:48:04.760 --> 1:48:08.280 it was. And Stephen had some sort of episode with 1:48:08.479 --> 1:48:10.840 somebody and you came in at the right time to 1:48:10.960 --> 1:48:14.320 come down. That's me and exhibit we're going out, Yes, 1:48:16.880 --> 1:48:20.200 tell us this story. No, that's a fact. I walked in. 1:48:20.320 --> 1:48:23.320 I walked in the sea sticky. I don't know what 1:48:23.479 --> 1:48:26.600 exhibit was was was on, but I walked in. I 1:48:26.720 --> 1:48:28.519 was wrong. I toltdally eximple to go fund himself or 1:48:28.520 --> 1:48:30.720 something that I mean, I was, I mean, but that 1:48:30.920 --> 1:48:33.160 was our relationship. And then he came like you, I 1:48:33.200 --> 1:48:34.639 could say no the phone, say it to my face. 1:48:35.200 --> 1:48:37.200 And he came in and we got each other's face, 1:48:37.439 --> 1:48:39.920 and I happened to be coming to see you, and 1:48:40.080 --> 1:48:42.920 I think you guys and exhibit, and he was, and 1:48:43.000 --> 1:48:47.519 I said, new, I could not allow it, but because 1:48:47.520 --> 1:48:50.800 of me as its great great friends. And then I'm 1:48:51.040 --> 1:48:53.120 and with exhip. It's over the son of my oldest 1:48:53.120 --> 1:48:56.040 son and born the same day. Wow, God bless that 1:48:56.200 --> 1:49:03.080 godless he's bey. No, that's beautiful, man, that's beautiful. I'm 1:49:03.120 --> 1:49:07.080 telling I'm trying to tell y'all, um, this would be 1:49:07.320 --> 1:49:09.680 y'all like y'all, y'all lee, worry Jesson. When I say 1:49:10.000 --> 1:49:13.400 worry Jesson, you remember how like the Jetson's would travel, 1:49:14.080 --> 1:49:16.080 they would be in the same place to go to 1:49:16.160 --> 1:49:20.639 a different I don't if you'll realize that the Jestic jestice. Yeah, 1:49:20.680 --> 1:49:24.599 they're traveling, but they're keeping the same thing. That's exactly 1:49:24.640 --> 1:49:27.080 what that talk could be. The talk could be the 1:49:27.240 --> 1:49:30.920 traveling label. I like to drink champ slot talk. I 1:49:31.040 --> 1:49:34.400 love to drink chatman, because we don't sounds strong. It 1:49:34.520 --> 1:49:43.200 sounds strong. It sounds like really really got to make announcement. 1:49:43.280 --> 1:49:46.120 Now that's like we're gonna do with just we're gonna 1:49:46.120 --> 1:49:50.200 set it off. What day is the actual January thirty next, 1:49:50.240 --> 1:49:53.760 Thurst dirty And Okay, I think there's some way we 1:49:53.800 --> 1:49:57.640 can make some way something, make it hark. We can 1:49:57.720 --> 1:50:00.760 do it. So we could u do it in that 1:50:00.960 --> 1:50:03.640 green room where we talked with all of ours as 1:50:03.680 --> 1:50:05.400 they're going in and out of the show. But but 1:50:05.720 --> 1:50:08.160 but we would do we provide even more than that. 1:50:08.240 --> 1:50:11.720 We're great, we're great street team people and services. But 1:50:11.840 --> 1:50:13.720 we would do is that's behind the scenes. But we 1:50:13.800 --> 1:50:16.759 were also hosts because you know, you gotta have somebody 1:50:16.840 --> 1:50:21.880 talking in between that press and and you know, he 1:50:22.000 --> 1:50:24.519 had finished being one of the grey and then I'm 1:50:24.520 --> 1:50:27.160 coming out of his host But then every night, behind 1:50:27.240 --> 1:50:30.920 the scenes, it's a drink Camps episode that I'm not 1:50:31.040 --> 1:50:35.799 going to. But that's really that's really what this industry 1:50:35.880 --> 1:50:38.880 is about. It is like us as people that have 1:50:38.960 --> 1:50:42.560 been that I said it earlier, fraternity. That's what I 1:50:42.800 --> 1:50:48.000 finally getting to feel like, like you know, the other 1:50:48.120 --> 1:50:52.320 day boosey Wa Kappa Kappa Kappa shirt and the fucking 1:50:52.439 --> 1:51:01.160 college people lost their mind. Sorry, sorry, exactly what I'm 1:51:01.200 --> 1:51:05.600 saying it lost a mind. Okay, I'm sorry, sir. I 1:51:05.680 --> 1:51:13.080 appreciate yourself. What I'm trying to say is that that's 1:51:13.160 --> 1:51:15.080 what I feel like hip hop should be. Like I 1:51:15.120 --> 1:51:16.960 feel like, if you've got ten years in this game 1:51:17.040 --> 1:51:21.559 a hip hop, we should have a flag shirt because 1:51:21.720 --> 1:51:24.200 this is because this is you know, for lack of 1:51:24.280 --> 1:51:26.160 a better term, like one of the people say that 1:51:26.360 --> 1:51:31.160 coach your vultures, and like ten years, fifteen years in 1:51:31.200 --> 1:51:33.680 this game, you should have we should we should have 1:51:33.760 --> 1:51:37.679 a pen. We should have a pen like generals, like generals, 1:51:37.960 --> 1:51:42.800 like the Marines, decorations that they called decorations like this 1:51:42.840 --> 1:51:47.760 isn't trying to say forty yearsn't And you have never 1:51:47.880 --> 1:51:51.639 been called a culture vulture ever? Or have you not gonna? 1:51:51.640 --> 1:51:53.920 I don't know, No, I don't think you have based 1:51:54.479 --> 1:51:56.840 and I don't think you have, but I don't think 1:51:56.880 --> 1:52:01.200 you have. But what we're going honest, man, what do 1:52:01.280 --> 1:52:04.160 you think that if you had? What do you think that? 1:52:04.520 --> 1:52:07.200 What do you do? That means? What that I haven't 1:52:07.200 --> 1:52:10.400 been called one? What it means? I don't even know 1:52:10.479 --> 1:52:13.000 what it means. It's taking advantage of somebody. I mean 1:52:13.160 --> 1:52:16.559 that's I mean, that's where you'd go, Yeah, what did 1:52:16.600 --> 1:52:19.200 you do? It warranted them calling you that he was 1:52:19.360 --> 1:52:22.760 apposed to dash that out of what they're referred to me. 1:52:23.680 --> 1:52:26.960 But I think I think that the idea behind the 1:52:27.120 --> 1:52:30.000 name is that you're profiting off of hip hop culture 1:52:30.000 --> 1:52:32.160 and not giving back, that you don't respect the culture, 1:52:32.600 --> 1:52:36.200 that you don't participate. You're just trying to exploit it 1:52:36.280 --> 1:52:39.479 and get money. And that's where your concern ends. But 1:52:39.560 --> 1:52:43.120 that's a real concern. I think it's totally leg There's 1:52:43.160 --> 1:52:46.160 a history of plenty of people exploiting other people based 1:52:46.200 --> 1:52:50.240 on color, based on their job, based on male or female. 1:52:50.360 --> 1:52:53.360 There's a lot of exploitation. I just don't think it's 1:52:53.360 --> 1:52:58.400 just restricted to music and hip hop and no, it 1:52:58.520 --> 1:53:02.519 was a culture vulture and all kinds of cultures whatever. Culture. Yeah, 1:53:03.560 --> 1:53:07.760 but I think I think, man, you know what, we 1:53:07.960 --> 1:53:11.559 have been doing this in hip hop and hip hop 1:53:11.640 --> 1:53:15.759 has been succeeding. And I think that we all together 1:53:15.920 --> 1:53:21.719 as a people, know who's this is. I want me. Yeah, 1:53:22.680 --> 1:53:24.120 I feel like Steve, I did not hope for you 1:53:24.160 --> 1:53:28.280 to drink this old. I can't drink heart because because 1:53:28.280 --> 1:53:30.439 she really had like a heart, Yeah, I had a 1:53:30.560 --> 1:53:46.559 real heart. Attack. He has a heart. Scary, scary because 1:53:46.560 --> 1:53:48.439 I remember it was like a Steve and then this, 1:53:48.600 --> 1:53:52.120 this is the after. This is the after Steve. No, 1:53:52.320 --> 1:53:53.680 you know what I'm trying to say, Like you know, 1:53:54.000 --> 1:53:57.759 before Steven was nuts, the wild Steve. He's very crazy. 1:53:57.840 --> 1:54:01.960 I like him. But this is the calm the post 1:54:02.040 --> 1:54:04.960 protect your hearts to Yes, you have I mean accident 1:54:05.040 --> 1:54:08.680 deflated right here. That's definitely gonna calm you down. Sure, 1:54:09.160 --> 1:54:13.640 I have no idea what you just said. If saulate 1:54:13.800 --> 1:54:15.800 so you know when your heart stops, it's just no, 1:54:15.880 --> 1:54:19.760 I do not. No, It's like the electric joint. Oh ship, 1:54:19.960 --> 1:54:23.679 Yeah you have one built in Yeah? No, holy ship? 1:54:24.200 --> 1:54:27.600 And I'm smoking like this not what could moving back? No? No, 1:54:27.880 --> 1:54:29.760 I mean yeah, I just can't smoke, but I could 1:54:29.760 --> 1:54:36.840 get take edible? Have you? I have? I beenly Is 1:54:36.920 --> 1:54:38.840 We have a Beverly Hills is phenomenal. By the way, 1:54:43.120 --> 1:54:48.720 drink this is a little way and ship? Why you 1:54:48.800 --> 1:54:53.080 have this Colombia that's my ship? I know what? Never trying? 1:54:56.240 --> 1:54:58.920 Yes man, you say it again? Boom boom boom boom. 1:54:58.960 --> 1:55:01.960 I don't think anyone's not sisting on the pork chorse. 1:55:02.040 --> 1:55:06.160 Brobably listen on the Bumbo Bumbo. She's like my mom 1:55:07.120 --> 1:55:09.680 like fan move, but I really it's my Eyeland sister. 1:55:10.600 --> 1:55:14.080 You know good, it's good, it's good. All right, that's 1:55:14.160 --> 1:55:17.600 false and I listened to us. That's it all you 1:55:17.640 --> 1:55:21.440 other guys. I don't trust you at you give me 1:55:21.520 --> 1:55:27.080 false and shot. Tell me one more years. Take a shot, 1:55:27.400 --> 1:55:29.800 grab something shot all right, but let's take a shot. 1:55:29.960 --> 1:55:34.280 Motherfucking come take a shock. Take a shot. Take you 1:55:34.560 --> 1:55:40.120 gonna take a shot. You gotta track me, white man, 1:55:40.320 --> 1:55:43.440 you gotta take your ship. Got to mixing. Stop talking 1:55:43.440 --> 1:55:51.280 about the Listen. I'm not gonna lie at that out Steven, Steve, 1:55:51.680 --> 1:55:55.920 give Steve. Listen Steve. This is about Steve whipping. So 1:55:56.040 --> 1:55:59.400 we're gonna We're gonna keep with Steve. I'm not gonna lie. 1:56:00.120 --> 1:56:02.400 You're one of the best CEOs out there. You're a 1:56:02.520 --> 1:56:07.600 person that still stick by your artists no matter what. Uh, 1:56:08.960 --> 1:56:11.200 it doesn't even matter if you agree with the ideologies 1:56:11.280 --> 1:56:13.360 or not. You're standing there at that and that's the 1:56:13.680 --> 1:56:16.680 that's the definition of hip hop. That's the definition of 1:56:16.760 --> 1:56:18.760 what hip hop is supposed to be. Sometimes it's like 1:56:18.880 --> 1:56:21.160 you know what that ship is like right now? Like 1:56:21.600 --> 1:56:25.160 when I listened to the young generation. I don't agree 1:56:25.360 --> 1:56:28.520 with none of the ship, but I still box to it. 1:56:30.360 --> 1:56:36.000 I can line, but I'll be thinking it. So that's 1:56:36.040 --> 1:56:40.040 the definition of hip hop. I'm taking on like you 1:56:40.080 --> 1:56:44.920 know me. Also, the definition, right is it's not about 1:56:44.960 --> 1:56:47.280 the win sometimes because fact how many times you get up? 1:56:49.920 --> 1:56:54.640 So to me, that's what hip hop. Okay, so let's 1:56:54.720 --> 1:57:00.240 just salute to that, to that so little everybody, Okay, 1:57:01.320 --> 1:57:04.320 down quickly, that's fine. One. I gotta use your back. 1:57:07.600 --> 1:57:10.240 I think I piggies first. I got me go first. 1:57:11.880 --> 1:57:13.400 I got said what I'm saying to say this morning. 1:57:15.120 --> 1:57:17.840 Now after all this ship, right, well, you don't even 1:57:17.920 --> 1:57:24.040 take it down brown man, you came down to hang 1:57:24.120 --> 1:57:35.440 out with them. Now, this would tank our album. What 1:57:35.640 --> 1:57:39.120 did you? What did you? Girl? What's the those days? Correl? No, 1:57:39.240 --> 1:57:41.960 that's not that's not even listen. I'll never get a 1:57:41.960 --> 1:57:48.840 second guest prison. I'm not what that was his I 1:57:48.960 --> 1:57:52.320 understand what it was A dope idea. The idea was basic. 1:57:52.400 --> 1:57:56.040 It's dope there. It just got exploited in the wrong 1:57:56.120 --> 1:57:58.600 way by that got in the wrong hand, right, So 1:57:58.840 --> 1:58:02.200 that's so that's all. But I would never second guess 1:58:02.520 --> 1:58:05.760 at all. But it's like when the mty teacher the 1:58:05.880 --> 1:58:08.600 man's records are coming. I stayed in New York for 1:58:08.640 --> 1:58:10.760 the summer. He would come up to the office every 1:58:10.760 --> 1:58:15.360 single day with a notebook and it had and it 1:58:15.440 --> 1:58:19.280 had twenty seven lines. If he would have twenty seven 1:58:20.480 --> 1:58:24.240 questions right, and I would say yes to six out 1:58:24.280 --> 1:58:26.880 of seven, And he would say to me, why are 1:58:26.880 --> 1:58:29.400 you saying yes? Are you scanning me? I'm like, why 1:58:29.440 --> 1:58:31.640 would I be scary? Everything that you're asking for is 1:58:31.720 --> 1:58:34.040 making sense. And the one thing that I might have 1:58:34.160 --> 1:58:36.320 to say no to is because maybe I just don't 1:58:36.320 --> 1:58:40.640 have the money. But that even makes sense, So it 1:58:40.760 --> 1:58:45.520 has nothing to do about fear. What was there ever 1:58:45.720 --> 1:58:48.200 any of these artists or any of these records that 1:58:48.280 --> 1:58:50.480 were presented to you that you thought, I don't I 1:58:50.480 --> 1:58:56.960 don't want to touch this. No, I never like when 1:58:57.040 --> 1:58:59.320 Mom Deep came, you know how Now, Like if someone 1:58:59.480 --> 1:59:02.640 brings a a piece of content or a project that 1:59:02.720 --> 1:59:08.000 had previously had a deal and wasn't necessarily commercially successful, 1:59:08.240 --> 1:59:09.720 they might be like, no, I don't want to touch that. 1:59:10.400 --> 1:59:13.160 Like what made you see that mob Deep could be 1:59:13.320 --> 1:59:15.520 mob Deep? What they were in the day they came 1:59:16.320 --> 1:59:19.080 he wasn't there always have and just the rest of 1:59:19.120 --> 1:59:23.240 the mob deep they had this energy that just I mean, 1:59:23.320 --> 1:59:27.120 it was like had Woo performed, they just so don't 1:59:27.120 --> 1:59:31.080 matter what they had done before that, that happum was 1:59:31.120 --> 1:59:35.400 a break right right what mom, Like, I'm asking like 1:59:35.640 --> 1:59:37.640 from the back album. Hit it from the back album. 1:59:38.960 --> 1:59:42.720 So so when they came in, like they just took 1:59:42.760 --> 1:59:44.560 over the whole room and it was like, I gotta 1:59:44.600 --> 1:59:46.680 have these guys. Remember that they went into the men's 1:59:46.720 --> 1:59:50.360 room to smoke a blunt there and the fire and 1:59:50.440 --> 1:59:52.840 the water just came down. I was like, this is 1:59:52.920 --> 1:59:58.840 the perfect spinoff, was a matter of fact, and they 1:59:58.960 --> 2:00:01.000 kicked up BMG, kick this out where it's like you 2:00:01.080 --> 2:00:03.400 guys gotta have your own office now. So but but um, 2:00:03.720 --> 2:00:06.920 but I said, we take in between Woo. Did Nas 2:00:06.960 --> 2:00:10.520 come out before after we tang before around the same time, 2:00:10.560 --> 2:00:14.200 Actually google it Nas on though he had to record 2:00:14.280 --> 2:00:17.760 with the third search and Patre Yeah, back to the 2:00:17.800 --> 2:00:21.760 grill again And so I had was before and then 2:00:21.880 --> 2:00:25.800 um he might have had a single before us, because 2:00:25.800 --> 2:00:31.000 I remember when Nas called rizzm m um, they were 2:00:31.000 --> 2:00:33.080 ecstatic that Rizzo was gonna do two or three beats 2:00:33.680 --> 2:00:36.200 on the album, but they're all ninety three releases. Both 2:00:36.240 --> 2:00:38.720 of them were ninety three, like official album releases. I 2:00:38.800 --> 2:00:41.840 think they I think NAS came ninety four. Oh yeah, 2:00:44.960 --> 2:00:53.280 because Tank came to Vember nag right, what Tang came 2:00:53.360 --> 2:00:57.040 November nine and the week he came out was tried 2:00:57.760 --> 2:01:02.040 and R Kelly, and then Snoop came that's different today, 2:01:02.200 --> 2:01:08.520 yeah yeah, and then Snoop came out to sixteen Night, 2:01:08.760 --> 2:01:12.440 but it was out ninety two though Snoop with with 2:01:12.600 --> 2:01:21.160 this his first solo, don't say it was two. Check 2:01:21.240 --> 2:01:24.120 that scene definitely, that's definitely late nine three. Can we 2:01:24.240 --> 2:01:26.440 can we check the date though I'm almost possibly it's 2:01:26.480 --> 2:01:29.240 November sixteen. Yes, it's definitely late ninety three. I know 2:01:29.360 --> 2:01:33.320 that for facts. I love this right now. But you 2:01:33.360 --> 2:01:35.480 know what makes it confusing because back then people were 2:01:35.600 --> 2:01:42.760 promoting albums all right, yeah, yeah, like a year like now, 2:01:42.840 --> 2:01:45.960 nobody could conceive that that someone would have singles to 2:01:46.160 --> 2:01:49.360 lead him to an album almost a year year. Agree 2:01:49.400 --> 2:01:53.320 with this surprise album? How about you? How about Johnathan? Johnathan? 2:01:53.360 --> 2:01:55.280 I wanted to as I said, oh you got this 2:01:55.360 --> 2:01:58.880 surprise album? Like nowadays there's no promotion at all. There's 2:01:58.920 --> 2:02:02.160 no need for a street team, there's no need for nothing. 2:02:02.160 --> 2:02:04.000 They just like, there's just a problem. If you have 2:02:04.280 --> 2:02:08.240 these people, they just drop a surprise album. Do you 2:02:08.320 --> 2:02:10.080 agree with? That's only if they have the following that 2:02:10.160 --> 2:02:11.600 that makes it has the pot. But so many these 2:02:11.640 --> 2:02:13.960 people think they have the following and they they're very 2:02:14.040 --> 2:02:16.840 they're gonna Drake. Drake has to follow, Drake has a 2:02:16.920 --> 2:02:19.600 follow up. Beyonce and the Mega Star could do that, 2:02:19.680 --> 2:02:22.600 but nobody. Eminem did it last week. This word of 2:02:22.680 --> 2:02:26.520 mouth now, I mean it's like light switch speed travel 2:02:26.680 --> 2:02:29.320 so fast now it's been fresh on the buck. I 2:02:29.360 --> 2:02:33.240 mean like I would saying we would generally release three 2:02:33.400 --> 2:02:36.320 twelve inches at least before we're dropping an album with 2:02:36.760 --> 2:02:40.320 punt before it's still not a player. Three videos and 2:02:40.440 --> 2:02:42.880 the original version. So we had you Ain't to Kill Him? 2:02:43.880 --> 2:02:49.880 That's the white label, the real Wait, we had you 2:02:49.920 --> 2:02:53.400 Ain't to Kill U? The original You're not to Play 2:02:53.480 --> 2:02:56.720 with the o js right, the original without and then 2:02:56.760 --> 2:02:58.840 we came was still not a player. Then we came 2:02:59.000 --> 2:03:02.280 six weeks later with the Twins Right, which was a 2:03:02.320 --> 2:03:04.560 deep cover record R right. And then we came with 2:03:04.600 --> 2:03:06.440 Your record, and we came and came up right, So 2:03:06.600 --> 2:03:09.960 we had five singles within a matter of you think 2:03:10.000 --> 2:03:12.840 you think, you think, damn that that's that's that's that's 2:03:12.880 --> 2:03:15.720 freaking awesome. By the way, we you just broke that down. 2:03:16.120 --> 2:03:19.960 Everybody listening like that ship was ill. So we four videos, 2:03:20.120 --> 2:03:23.440 so we did it was one of the five solo layout. 2:03:24.600 --> 2:03:27.640 You think anybody could do that? Now they're dealing with Drake. 2:03:28.040 --> 2:03:31.320 I don't know any new artists that could. You got 2:03:31.400 --> 2:03:34.080 me on that one. I don't know, no little way 2:03:34.120 --> 2:03:38.040 you could do it, little right, but not a brand 2:03:38.040 --> 2:03:41.360 new artist. But when you think it gets them, the 2:03:41.400 --> 2:03:44.320 results of that one million in the first week or 2:03:44.360 --> 2:03:46.560 the million in the first week, don't I don't know 2:03:46.560 --> 2:03:48.440 how this whole streaming ship works now. I know the 2:03:48.520 --> 2:03:51.640 record companies are getting paid a fortune, right, I know 2:03:51.800 --> 2:03:54.680 Universal gets like five million dollars a year from Spotify, 2:03:55.880 --> 2:03:58.920 So really, I mean it's something right, right, Mandy. Yeah, 2:03:58.920 --> 2:04:02.800 they split up the uh subscription fees. And I think 2:04:02.840 --> 2:04:06.200 the reason it works so good in the surprise albums 2:04:06.680 --> 2:04:10.120 is because back when we started, your friend would have 2:04:10.240 --> 2:04:11.640 to buy it and then you have to tape it 2:04:11.720 --> 2:04:13.320 from you and the other friend would have to buy it. 2:04:13.400 --> 2:04:15.800 Now once it comes out, everyone has access to it. 2:04:16.320 --> 2:04:18.000 So it's just a word of mouth thing that can 2:04:18.040 --> 2:04:20.080 spread like that. I'm working. You don't have to pay 2:04:20.120 --> 2:04:23.000 anything extra. I'm working with the Suicide Boys. Now, okay, 2:04:24.480 --> 2:04:29.720 that's why that they are maker. This is it's a 2:04:29.760 --> 2:04:35.440 punk band right there, h two kids. Not New Orleans 2:04:35.520 --> 2:04:40.440 a city, but the country of New Orleans. And the 2:04:40.520 --> 2:04:44.840 way they are streaming right this second is crazy, right. 2:04:44.880 --> 2:04:48.560 I would deal is up with Universal in six months. 2:04:49.000 --> 2:04:50.800 It's gonna be the biggest bidding warm and I've never 2:04:50.840 --> 2:04:53.520 had a bidding war in my whole career. It's gonna 2:04:53.520 --> 2:04:56.040 be the biggest bidding warm of the year. M hm. 2:04:59.280 --> 2:05:01.520 And they can on your masters took well, they own 2:05:01.600 --> 2:05:03.720 we own our we own our own right. So do 2:05:03.760 --> 2:05:06.000 you do you recommend an artist that has that kind 2:05:06.000 --> 2:05:10.800 of following that you're talking about? Could they go independent? 2:05:10.920 --> 2:05:13.240 Because it allows you to be We are in the 2:05:13.320 --> 2:05:15.920 autonomous We are independent. We're going through Caroline right the second, 2:05:15.960 --> 2:05:18.760 which is owned by the Universal Right, So we are 2:05:19.040 --> 2:05:23.160 So what's what's what's the pros? And going to a 2:05:23.200 --> 2:05:31.080 major label at this there's no more pro lax all 2:05:31.080 --> 2:05:35.280 the time we were opposite side of this. You're all 2:05:35.320 --> 2:05:38.440 still taking advances And he said, then, huh, I don't know. 2:05:40.080 --> 2:05:49.640 We're hanging out with its leave. But two days. If 2:05:49.680 --> 2:05:54.720 you're a brand new artist right in today's marketplace, right, 2:05:54.960 --> 2:05:57.360 you gotta jump start to record yourself before they're back, 2:05:57.680 --> 2:06:00.560 before the labels, before the labels come. So if you 2:06:00.640 --> 2:06:03.720 run out of money, then you do need the label, right. 2:06:03.880 --> 2:06:06.800 But if you could figure out a way to get 2:06:06.880 --> 2:06:09.920 that money, keep that money, own your own ship and 2:06:10.000 --> 2:06:12.360 do it yourself, you're gonna make a fucking force. And 2:06:12.400 --> 2:06:14.760 if you have a team that knows how to monetize properly, 2:06:16.320 --> 2:06:19.200 it's just I mean, but that's my it's not being 2:06:19.400 --> 2:06:22.400 gonna It's like, if I could help you make ten 2:06:22.440 --> 2:06:26.160 million dollars, please do that right And if God, but 2:06:26.240 --> 2:06:28.680 if I even needed something from you, I think you 2:06:28.680 --> 2:06:31.840 would be there for me. And I'm not talking about money, right. 2:06:32.120 --> 2:06:35.080 So that's always been my thing with me and Puff 2:06:35.080 --> 2:06:37.040 were together at BMG, even though he was at our 2:06:37.120 --> 2:06:39.560 stuff and I was at our say, I gave him 2:06:39.600 --> 2:06:43.400 my connect to the chairman's boss, the chim that's what 2:06:43.560 --> 2:06:46.560 he calls himself. Now go himselves. The Chiman that makes 2:06:46.640 --> 2:06:53.680 looks for the Chimman. So that's how I've always just 2:06:55.520 --> 2:06:59.080 in life. If if I if I could help you, great, 2:06:59.120 --> 2:07:01.240 I'm not gonna watched the but I'm not asking for 2:07:01.280 --> 2:07:04.040 anything in return. I still got to rely on myself 2:07:04.160 --> 2:07:05.560 and my team to do what we have to do 2:07:06.280 --> 2:07:08.640 all right now. So we also know if you have 2:07:08.880 --> 2:07:11.800 like like the good music connected, is that good music 2:07:11.840 --> 2:07:17.080 connects coming out at this show? I don't think so 2:07:17.440 --> 2:07:20.360 is it a DMX like you know out of if 2:07:20.440 --> 2:07:23.960 we have straight to the motherfucking there might be something. 2:07:24.000 --> 2:07:27.520 It might be something like that because if you remember 2:07:27.640 --> 2:07:31.920 ran right he had on the third album of the 2:07:32.000 --> 2:07:35.640 Flex album, we had the first single with DMX, I 2:07:35.640 --> 2:07:39.440 don't single was that I forget the name of it was. 2:07:39.840 --> 2:07:42.480 We shot the video in Toronto. We shot the videos 2:07:44.600 --> 2:07:48.000 you remember, and then the dog ran off the runway 2:07:48.120 --> 2:07:50.960 ors what I mean? It was something yeah, yeah, So 2:07:52.880 --> 2:07:54.520 when they gave all the drugs to the white guy 2:07:56.400 --> 2:08:06.200 because customs came out the private yea even one more shot. 2:08:11.960 --> 2:08:15.440 That's amazing. Was you know, ex is crazy out of 2:08:15.520 --> 2:08:18.720 his mind. Great guys, but we had my school and 2:08:18.840 --> 2:08:24.040 Chris working taught us. Yeah, they were Christmas called. We 2:08:24.200 --> 2:08:26.600 stayed outside the excess house for maybe two hours while 2:08:26.640 --> 2:08:29.560 the jets just sat there. No one knew if you 2:08:29.600 --> 2:08:31.760 were going to come. Every I was nervous. I was 2:08:31.960 --> 2:08:36.440 like a confused in front of um excess house. We 2:08:36.520 --> 2:08:40.040 put the jet so planes the way you said it 2:08:40.800 --> 2:08:47.360 was actually experting in white planes and we had the 2:08:47.440 --> 2:08:49.240 jet originally coming out of teter where we moved to 2:08:49.320 --> 2:08:52.200 jet from Teterborough to white planes to just make it 2:08:52.280 --> 2:08:56.320 as easy as possible. He still didn't make it. I 2:08:56.320 --> 2:08:58.440 think it's liver in my kissco though at all time. 2:08:58.520 --> 2:09:03.520 Actually he made it. We got there late, hours, hours, 2:09:03.640 --> 2:09:07.000 laid over, just crazy, but we made it. It happened. 2:09:07.280 --> 2:09:12.600 And remember remember Leo calling me. He goes, he is 2:09:12.640 --> 2:09:16.160 my biggest artist and I'm gonna do everything possible not 2:09:16.320 --> 2:09:19.600 to make this happen. You know that whole ship caused 2:09:19.640 --> 2:09:25.560 a whole lot of problems. We're talking about Chris so 2:09:26.120 --> 2:09:30.400 you just for a performance that he became the singing 2:09:33.760 --> 2:09:36.920 so just just him recording the records. The problem video 2:09:37.400 --> 2:09:40.080 he did video, he didn't get the video everything. He 2:09:40.160 --> 2:09:43.280 did twelve million records in what six months, So he's 2:09:43.320 --> 2:09:47.280 def Jam's biggest artist. Chris, we've def jam to come 2:09:47.680 --> 2:09:51.360 become our partner pretty much right and then and then Todd, 2:09:51.520 --> 2:09:54.480 I'm in Italy. I know that you're gonna stop because 2:09:55.320 --> 2:09:57.400 I kept saying you were the first things, like listen, 2:09:57.480 --> 2:10:00.360 we gotta the last name is very important. We say 2:10:00.960 --> 2:10:04.840 we need our listeners to google ship in Moscow. So 2:10:04.920 --> 2:10:10.200 Tom Musto was left. He was so with Chris, he 2:10:10.400 --> 2:10:12.640 was even death Champ. We didn't even have the deal yet. 2:10:12.840 --> 2:10:14.720 But I guess Leo found out and he kicked him 2:10:14.720 --> 2:10:17.920 out of the bill. Am I correct? And there's something 2:10:18.000 --> 2:10:22.560 he found out? Yeah, I'm in Italy dealing with the 2:10:22.680 --> 2:10:29.280 new owner of Red Distribution, which we which we still 2:10:29.360 --> 2:10:35.520 known to this day. We had a sign off on 2:10:35.640 --> 2:10:37.640 the deal and I wasn't signing off. I was a 2:10:37.720 --> 2:10:40.640 knucklehead in those days. I wasn't right and le Or 2:10:40.920 --> 2:10:42.720 I don't have the funk. He reached me, but he 2:10:42.840 --> 2:10:47.760 found me in Lake Pomo, Italy, and he says, I'm 2:10:47.800 --> 2:10:54.400 gonna do it. This is very right. I'm gonna do 2:10:54.600 --> 2:10:59.360 everything possible. When does Alfacino come into the picture again, 2:11:00.280 --> 2:11:06.919 I'm gonna do everything possible to block this. Just DMX 2:11:06.960 --> 2:11:10.680 being on a single, but I don't think it was 2:11:10.680 --> 2:11:13.960 about me. I think it was more about Chris Moscut's leaving. 2:11:15.120 --> 2:11:18.320 All right, so I'm going to funk with y'all. Chris came. 2:11:18.400 --> 2:11:22.120 Chris came first, and then Moscuts came like six months. Yeah, 2:11:22.120 --> 2:11:25.280 I can see where Leo is coming from. You guys 2:11:25.760 --> 2:11:27.560 that I would have done the same you guys was 2:11:27.640 --> 2:11:30.440 a threat and then you had the number one album 2:11:30.520 --> 2:11:34.520 on your first single, number one. Honest, he was ruthless, bro, 2:11:34.760 --> 2:11:36.040 he was true. This just makes a nice for me. 2:11:36.240 --> 2:11:42.760 Who you are? Who you are, bro? Like who you are? 2:11:42.840 --> 2:11:45.160 Do you still have it? I mean, I'm just me. 2:11:45.680 --> 2:11:50.880 I mean. And then and so ship got my notes 2:11:58.880 --> 2:12:06.839 so that say you're Kanye but you're on the dogs. 2:12:06.960 --> 2:12:11.000 It was great. Oh, we hope to see for him soon. 2:12:11.920 --> 2:12:18.360 Is that with focuses? So when I left Kanye, okay, 2:12:19.040 --> 2:12:23.600 are you left one of Kanye's things recently? Did you 2:12:23.640 --> 2:12:25.880 make it happen? That's so I'm gonna tell I'll tell 2:12:25.920 --> 2:12:29.120 you how the whole thing with it? So who No, 2:12:29.280 --> 2:12:35.400 it was neutral with me and ye and I got 2:12:35.440 --> 2:12:37.760 a phone call from the head of c A Music 2:12:37.840 --> 2:12:49.200 to barm c I c A created nation. That's totally wrong. 2:12:49.640 --> 2:12:56.840 So let's say it very confident. See. So they said 2:12:56.880 --> 2:12:59.280 what are you gonna do now? And I was like, 2:13:00.000 --> 2:13:02.440 I don't know, I'm gonna You know, he just paid 2:13:02.520 --> 2:13:04.400 me literally for two years, and he was spending me 2:13:04.440 --> 2:13:07.000 a lot of one. So I said, I'm going to 2:13:07.080 --> 2:13:08.520 figure it out, but I know I want I don't 2:13:08.560 --> 2:13:09.960 know if I want to work anybody again. I want 2:13:09.960 --> 2:13:13.440 my own thing. He goes, there's this management company that 2:13:13.560 --> 2:13:16.760 manage a whole bunch of dance arts, Um, Steve Ioki, 2:13:17.120 --> 2:13:19.000 you know, a whole bunch of DJs. You just got 2:13:19.080 --> 2:13:21.480 a shipload of money from a company, from a private 2:13:21.520 --> 2:13:23.240 equity company out of London, and they're looking to go 2:13:23.320 --> 2:13:25.080 into the urban space. Do you want to take a 2:13:25.160 --> 2:13:30.920 meeting with that? So I was like, all right, cool, 2:13:31.840 --> 2:13:36.480 take the meeting and we work at the deal where 2:13:36.960 --> 2:13:46.200 it's called lab Management, and I had nobody um, And 2:13:46.280 --> 2:13:53.640 then X performed at Sunday Service Wow. And that night, 2:13:54.560 --> 2:13:58.920 that Sunday night after I had a dream that I 2:13:59.080 --> 2:14:03.320 was gonna make his new comeback out a dream a dream. 2:14:04.000 --> 2:14:08.280 So I called Rich Isaacson. I was like, who's managing X? 2:14:09.000 --> 2:14:10.440 And you said, I got the name with pat Alla, 2:14:13.240 --> 2:14:16.160 right and so I tried calling Pat, didn't call me back. 2:14:16.600 --> 2:14:21.080 You know, you know this, So Ali got me a Pat, 2:14:22.600 --> 2:14:28.480 flew to New York, sat down with um X, worked 2:14:28.520 --> 2:14:32.000 it out, sat down with the Rough Riders, who I love, 2:14:32.920 --> 2:14:39.280 UM work what they needed, and now the next month 2:14:39.320 --> 2:14:41.320 or two we're going to make a new album. Okay, 2:14:41.840 --> 2:14:46.480 he's he's he's because I'm really not abbressed. Um is 2:14:46.560 --> 2:14:56.560 he out of exactly? Okay? Big him up? Feel um? 2:14:56.920 --> 2:15:03.480 You know, I realized, like yesterday was the interview a 2:15:03.480 --> 2:15:05.640 little way, and I realized how much of a box 2:15:05.840 --> 2:15:08.520 that he put himself in. And I realized how much 2:15:08.520 --> 2:15:12.320 of a box I put myself in. But I don't 2:15:12.360 --> 2:15:14.880 never want to be in a super box. So the 2:15:14.960 --> 2:15:16.640 fact that I didn't even know what d MX is 2:15:16.640 --> 2:15:19.320 out makes me know that I gotta get back off 2:15:19.360 --> 2:15:21.520 my ship. I gotta. I should have knew that I 2:15:21.760 --> 2:15:24.200 should That shouldn't have been a question. One of the shot. 2:15:24.400 --> 2:15:32.560 Let's done at the shots that your living Pepper got 2:15:32.600 --> 2:15:39.520 Living Pepper. Yeah, I know that too. Let's take the shot. Yeah, 2:15:42.360 --> 2:15:45.720 a lot of motherfucker brackets, brand Yak and John our 2:15:45.800 --> 2:15:54.000 motherfucker Rifkin and motherfucker's Steve and Steve Riber your interviews. 2:15:54.040 --> 2:15:56.400 Who want to do something that we implicated new It's 2:15:56.440 --> 2:15:59.320 called quick Time with Slime? Are you ready? Six slime? 2:16:00.880 --> 2:16:06.040 Holy moldy? What come only folks? You know what time 2:16:06.120 --> 2:16:08.760 it is? He knows what time it is. She knows 2:16:08.840 --> 2:16:10.920 what time it is. And I think we know what 2:16:11.160 --> 2:16:16.440 time it is. It is quick time. What's America's favorite 2:16:18.000 --> 2:16:26.720 game show? Holding? We're just gonna give you one. You 2:16:26.760 --> 2:16:29.080 just gotta just picking one real quick and just can't 2:16:29.840 --> 2:16:32.640 not doing all right? Okay, it's just big picker one, 2:16:32.720 --> 2:16:37.119 pick one, pick one, don't give you two choices? You ready? Yeah? 2:16:38.000 --> 2:16:41.360 Brief the boxes? That's that. I didn't see this coming, 2:16:42.360 --> 2:16:49.240 MP Martha. Any of it is my favorite record of 2:16:49.400 --> 2:17:00.160 all Time's great person Lis Damn. That's that's I'm mean. 2:17:01.680 --> 2:17:05.360 They're twins, right, so I can't let you get away 2:17:07.200 --> 2:17:10.760 because he's got maybe more. It's a real great No 2:17:10.879 --> 2:17:14.160 they were who time was my first child? Okay boom 2:17:14.480 --> 2:17:19.280 somm d mov boom big fun ex int it bo 2:17:20.760 --> 2:17:26.920 I can't answer that. Vegas, my head, Vegas. Should you 2:17:27.000 --> 2:17:31.480 want to say that? But yeah, but you know that's 2:17:32.240 --> 2:17:36.640 that's where I had to keep the key. Bob White woman, 2:17:36.720 --> 2:17:40.000 black woman, you know that answer? What needs you to 2:17:40.040 --> 2:17:47.680 answer with them? Blackman? Okay, Chris comment is suicide of 2:17:47.840 --> 2:17:58.000 christ not cost Kristin not people keep dropping of it 2:17:58.360 --> 2:18:01.680 my head. Um, okay, hold on, hold on, let's do it. No, 2:18:01.840 --> 2:18:06.200 it's jaz. I'm not answering that great office like that 2:18:06.879 --> 2:18:10.400 two black bag, not answering that either. But Tupac was 2:18:10.440 --> 2:18:22.920 my roommate though room start. The best roommates have to 2:18:23.040 --> 2:18:29.840 rock carry. I didn't take it from so you're Tupac? 2:18:30.120 --> 2:18:36.200 What happened his first album, Jimmy Hi at us don't 2:18:36.240 --> 2:18:39.200 get He wasn't on Yeah, they just Scope. Originally he 2:18:39.320 --> 2:18:41.760 was through a guy any of agent Gregory and Let's Go. 2:18:42.440 --> 2:18:47.360 Athan Gregory managed did You Don't Underground? They signed Pop's Go. 2:18:49.240 --> 2:18:53.560 So we would do these promotion to us Thursday to Monday, 2:18:55.200 --> 2:18:58.760 come back sometime one day, and then we'd have to 2:18:58.760 --> 2:19:02.160 go back out on Thursday using Wednesday. He's staying at 2:19:02.200 --> 2:19:05.640 my place for a year? Is it in l A 2:19:06.040 --> 2:19:09.400 in l A studio city? Wow, like a live bust. 2:19:09.400 --> 2:19:12.160 The rhymes told me someone lives to the same story. 2:19:13.120 --> 2:19:16.840 We're gonna keep playing quick Slid with Fly Are you ready? 2:19:16.840 --> 2:19:21.160 Flat has you ready. That was a great story. He 2:19:21.240 --> 2:19:25.760 brought away all ready we left over two pocket Biggie. Yeah. 2:19:27.080 --> 2:19:28.640 I feel like you disagree with me. I feel like 2:19:28.680 --> 2:19:33.960 you don't know what? Yeah you ready alight? Cool po 2:19:35.120 --> 2:19:44.119 little kid with Fox Bro Kim, Kevin mar or Chris Rock. Wow, 2:19:48.600 --> 2:19:55.720 I'm going with Christian I was good alcohol Onleen. I 2:19:55.800 --> 2:20:08.400 don't either quality control music or t d E man. 2:20:08.680 --> 2:20:11.760 So to me, it's two different types of It's like 2:20:12.280 --> 2:20:15.000 it's just one questions. I got it. You know this 2:20:15.160 --> 2:20:19.560 is m It's it's like bad boy and live that's 2:20:19.600 --> 2:20:27.320 fucking phenomenal. You gotta pick one, man, I'm living with's 2:20:27.360 --> 2:20:31.800 gonging with top okay, cash money at that brong cash 2:20:31.840 --> 2:20:38.520 money Okay, that is the quintessential right now, eminem m 2:20:38.640 --> 2:20:48.040 g k or geez ham on that and that is 2:20:48.120 --> 2:20:56.800 called the quicker time side. That was all. I'm sorry. So, 2:20:56.920 --> 2:20:59.600 I'm sorry. I love I love my ship. I'm just 2:20:59.680 --> 2:21:06.160 being so now we got us all together? Huh, what 2:21:07.200 --> 2:21:10.040 what's going on? I got a chicken wing. You got 2:21:10.080 --> 2:21:14.280 a chicken wing over there, chicken wing of chick away 2:21:15.000 --> 2:21:24.080 sick so yo. So now this is the first loud experience. 2:21:24.440 --> 2:21:31.040 What's it called without experience. Damn you named it the 2:21:31.280 --> 2:21:39.520 Loud experience times Strange Champs experience experience. I got one 2:21:39.560 --> 2:21:41.920 more shot left to me before I wrap it up. 2:21:42.560 --> 2:21:47.480 Do you realize the rabbit up the shot? The shot exit? Yeah, 2:21:47.520 --> 2:21:53.920 shot exit speech rabbit UPO. Yeah, that's so safe. It's safe. 2:21:55.040 --> 2:21:57.920 So we asked every way show that comes here, and 2:21:58.040 --> 2:22:00.280 we asked every you know, I guess to come. Yeah, 2:22:00.520 --> 2:22:03.720 what is your favorite error in the hip hop? Give 2:22:03.800 --> 2:22:06.840 us a timid ten ten years spent or give us 2:22:06.879 --> 2:22:10.000 this your fucking army us. It doesn't matter. I mean, 2:22:10.080 --> 2:22:13.440 I'm gonna say my ladder okay, and now his loud 2:22:14.520 --> 2:22:17.160 can you assump is loud? That is that a ten 2:22:17.280 --> 2:22:20.680 year for one year of what year? Two thousand two? 2:22:21.840 --> 2:22:26.600 It's definitely yeah. I think it won that one. Yeah, 2:22:26.640 --> 2:22:35.120 I think. All right, okay, all right, I agree ninety 2:22:35.160 --> 2:22:37.920 two two thousand or two. Have we think the best 2:22:37.959 --> 2:22:43.959 era bestr Yeah, ninety two two thousand two. I agree? Well, well, 2:22:44.000 --> 2:22:47.000 hold on, hold actually no, no, I gotta say eight. 2:22:48.800 --> 2:22:51.800 I gotta say, man, I'm probably also biased, you know. 2:22:51.879 --> 2:22:54.760 I think the time when I went but to two 2:22:54.840 --> 2:22:58.160 thousand and seven, that era that was really driven by 2:22:58.320 --> 2:23:03.880 Rockefeller rough Riders. M hm to me, that one my 2:23:03.959 --> 2:23:08.400 favorite name. I had another run from two thousand to 2:23:09.280 --> 2:23:11.720 two thousand ten, which might even be bigger than that 2:23:12.000 --> 2:23:14.120 when Vanner got it. This is a kind of bad 2:23:14.720 --> 2:23:21.560 and yeah, just sport the city and heat doing different 2:23:22.440 --> 2:23:26.360 sort the city would like everything, right, No, no, you 2:23:26.440 --> 2:23:28.480 guys are killing it big up to David Banner. He's 2:23:28.480 --> 2:23:32.200 a big friend of the show as well. He might 2:23:32.280 --> 2:23:40.360 be giving us a surprise music David. That's basically takes 2:23:40.400 --> 2:23:45.400 some shots. So I see loud, motherfucking records, Steve, motherfucker 2:23:45.480 --> 2:23:48.800 rip John, We're fucking ready act that we're all here. 2:23:49.959 --> 2:23:59.200 I am gonna take this down. That's wants you to know. Man. 2:24:00.120 --> 2:24:04.520 You know, in our game neue time people get you know, 2:24:04.640 --> 2:24:07.120 ten years or more, and they want to kick us 2:24:07.160 --> 2:24:10.280 out of this game. And the thing is, the more 2:24:10.440 --> 2:24:14.560 you get seasoned your wine, the more better it tastes. 2:24:15.520 --> 2:24:18.360 The morning you get knocked down, the better you got up. 2:24:20.800 --> 2:24:23.920 Nobody thought that was good, right, s RC might not 2:24:24.000 --> 2:24:26.200 have been as cool as Live, but it was just 2:24:26.320 --> 2:24:30.160 as big as not bigger. So before we get up 2:24:30.200 --> 2:24:36.360 out of here, everything's going And how did the health 2:24:36.680 --> 2:24:40.520 like how did the health like just up? Yeah, like 2:24:40.879 --> 2:24:42.760 what was going on? I never went to a doctor. 2:24:44.480 --> 2:24:48.880 You're you're like really black. That's like I didn't go 2:24:48.920 --> 2:24:54.359 to the doctor thirty years Okay, damn yeah that's really black. Continue. 2:24:55.080 --> 2:24:57.480 So it was my so if I went to a 2:24:57.520 --> 2:24:59.200 doctor that he would told me my blood pressure was 2:24:59.280 --> 2:25:02.360 sucked up like shore, it was stopped up, getting the 2:25:02.440 --> 2:25:06.640 boss a lot of stress games, weight that I shouldn't 2:25:06.640 --> 2:25:16.920 have gained. That was that was before. So just I 2:25:16.959 --> 2:25:19.920 mean I died three times? Wow? Wait you said he 2:25:20.080 --> 2:25:25.480 died three times? Um the table? I mean where was 2:25:25.520 --> 2:25:29.520 it during the table emergency? In the emergency room? Yeah, 2:25:31.680 --> 2:25:41.880 they shocked him three times a shock? Who shocked? Do 2:25:41.959 --> 2:25:45.120 you remember that? So it was Christmas Eve six years 2:25:45.120 --> 2:25:47.760 ago with this best Christmas Eve. I was playing my 2:25:47.879 --> 2:25:50.000 oldest Sun was still in high school, but he was 2:25:50.040 --> 2:25:53.840 a basketball player. He dunked on me and he was 2:25:53.879 --> 2:25:56.240 hanging from the rim and his nuts was in my face. 2:25:56.959 --> 2:25:59.160 So I so I punched him in the face, not 2:25:59.280 --> 2:26:01.560 out of anger, joking around like this is the most 2:26:01.640 --> 2:26:04.640 disrespectful a sunk and ever a dude to a spot. 2:26:06.640 --> 2:26:12.560 So my ex wife is from Trinidad, so she sees 2:26:12.600 --> 2:26:15.640 what's going on and her accents. She starts jelling at me, 2:26:15.720 --> 2:26:19.240 calling me an animal, this, that, But we're laughing. Next thing, 2:26:19.280 --> 2:26:22.560 you know, I can't breathe all right, and I don't 2:26:22.600 --> 2:26:23.880 have chest pains, but I have a pain in my 2:26:23.959 --> 2:26:26.160 back around. I said, maybe I pulled the muscle from 2:26:26.160 --> 2:26:27.920 the swing. I mean, I had no idea what it was. 2:26:29.240 --> 2:26:31.360 I said, something doesn't matter. She goes, just take a 2:26:31.360 --> 2:26:35.560 shower and go sleep. It's Christmas. Seed. No, we're in. 2:26:36.240 --> 2:26:43.640 We're in close enough. I go, I'm staying in her 2:26:43.680 --> 2:26:47.280 guesthouse was very beautiful too as well. I'm staying in 2:26:47.320 --> 2:26:50.560 a guesthouse. I call nine one, take his annex and 2:26:50.720 --> 2:26:56.720 take a shower. They came and said, oh, you gotta 2:26:56.800 --> 2:27:01.840 take you in. He took me and remember them cutting 2:27:01.879 --> 2:27:04.560 my shirt. Tell me I am having an art attack. 2:27:06.240 --> 2:27:08.960 And there's the doctor. Actually, the doctor who was in 2:27:08.959 --> 2:27:12.080 the emergency room was my father's doctor. He goes, are 2:27:12.160 --> 2:27:14.800 you related to Julie Rifkin. I'm like yeah, he goes, 2:27:14.840 --> 2:27:17.600 I'm his doctor. So I felt some type of because 2:27:17.640 --> 2:27:22.480 he lived down here. Oh my dad, yeah, um, because 2:27:22.520 --> 2:27:25.360 the doctor was Yeah, the doctor was my dad's doctor. 2:27:25.440 --> 2:27:29.720 So I felt literally and next thing, you know, the 2:27:30.080 --> 2:27:32.320 thing that they put in your throat to keep your breathing. 2:27:33.000 --> 2:27:38.360 I ripped it out and yeah, not a good looking that. 2:27:40.600 --> 2:27:43.680 It's just kind of it's kind of it's kind of weird, 2:27:43.760 --> 2:27:46.360 like you're talking about your U. But I don't know 2:27:46.520 --> 2:27:50.480 if I funked up my lion next um and I 2:27:50.560 --> 2:27:55.440 was in the hospital for a week and ever since then, 2:27:55.560 --> 2:27:59.440 you know, God bless me, you know, so just God 2:27:59.520 --> 2:28:09.440 bless amen. So can you say hold before that, no 2:28:09.600 --> 2:28:12.039 lessen to the jay Z story. Yeah, man, you guys 2:28:12.120 --> 2:28:15.600 were leaving. No before that. You have to get a 2:28:15.760 --> 2:28:18.000 jay Z story because I feel like this was like 2:28:18.160 --> 2:28:22.640 twice that you drive like, so what what? What exactly happened? 2:28:23.360 --> 2:28:26.360 So I go back with Dames since sixteen years old 2:28:26.840 --> 2:28:33.600 Dan Right? So Damien's managing Original Flavors with his cousin 2:28:34.040 --> 2:28:41.240 Damien Right and I had a relationship and I was 2:28:41.280 --> 2:28:45.920 doing the promotion for Original Flavor. Were they signed to 2:28:45.959 --> 2:28:49.520 a label? Day was signed to? Okay, Oh so c 2:28:50.080 --> 2:28:56.040 Craik Cowbor wasn't did that long? Craig was that? Yeah right, 2:28:56.160 --> 2:29:00.920 he wasn't the Bosher, but Craig was connected. Craig is 2:29:00.920 --> 2:29:02.480 one that was putting me on all these rugs. You listen, 2:29:02.480 --> 2:29:04.959 If Craig Day is original flavor, I'm gonna be Craig 2:29:05.040 --> 2:29:15.039 signed boys, bad boys, bad boys. You know, family did 2:29:15.080 --> 2:29:18.080 should be nobody in that building bigger than Correc should 2:29:18.080 --> 2:29:24.240 be the biggest dude in the by. Now that was something. 2:29:24.640 --> 2:29:28.480 This was I'll tell you exactly what that day with 2:29:28.520 --> 2:29:31.000 a teenager. So I'll tell you exactly what it was. 2:29:31.280 --> 2:29:34.000 I'm asking you, is Julia Mike kas is bigger than Craig. No, No, 2:29:34.879 --> 2:29:38.680 Julie No. Kaiser's head of Urban um D, president of 2:29:39.000 --> 2:29:44.560 Erman CEO and Craig All right there, all right, I'm sorry. 2:29:44.640 --> 2:29:47.840 Continue the day that Christian Latner hit the shot against 2:29:47.920 --> 2:29:51.920 Kentucky Christian lay what was that ninety two nine two? 2:29:52.879 --> 2:29:56.560 That's when, um, that's when I met Damon's cousin, Darren 2:29:57.440 --> 2:30:02.200 d So cut to because darreny here Denver sell a 2:30:02.280 --> 2:30:11.080 lot of wet and assisted Stacy does, right, So cut 2:30:11.160 --> 2:30:19.000 to ninety you know whatever it was, Dane, Jay come 2:30:19.080 --> 2:30:23.320 to the office, well maybe just dat and he plays me. 2:30:23.920 --> 2:30:27.960 Jay's out. I want to do the I want to 2:30:28.000 --> 2:30:32.360 do right, but I have to get permission, as I'll see, no, 2:30:32.800 --> 2:30:35.760 I have to get permisson from b MG to sign it. 2:30:36.640 --> 2:30:40.240 It's Claude Davids. No, there was strouds Zelnick and Kevin 2:30:40.360 --> 2:30:45.640 Zinger so and I forget who the president was at 2:30:45.680 --> 2:30:48.560 the time, Joe Glante. I think um at our at 2:30:48.600 --> 2:30:54.160 our c A. And it was the time right around 2:30:54.200 --> 2:30:56.080 the time that I threw the chair, you know. So 2:30:56.200 --> 2:30:59.200 it was like, DMG never let me sign Jack or 2:30:59.400 --> 2:31:04.360 Rocket Fellow. So that's the real story. I mean, I 2:31:04.400 --> 2:31:07.480 would never pass on something like that. But because I'm 2:31:07.800 --> 2:31:10.640 like big face Gary, I don't know. I see, I don't. 2:31:10.640 --> 2:31:14.720 I don't know Gary, because b face Gary his a 2:31:14.840 --> 2:31:20.200 subject was he came to do you guys, um and 2:31:20.360 --> 2:31:23.760 you didn't sign. We didn't. We didn't do. But I 2:31:23.920 --> 2:31:25.879 wanted I had listened to me. I had the best 2:31:25.920 --> 2:31:27.360 day in our guys in the business. They brought it 2:31:27.440 --> 2:31:30.279 to me. I was never gonna say no. If Mattie's 2:31:30.320 --> 2:31:33.200 got free brought something right, I signed punt on the 2:31:33.240 --> 2:31:35.760 spot without hearing a record because Maddie showed up at 2:31:35.760 --> 2:31:41.199 the office, did the same Maddie from the source. Yeah yeah, ready, 2:31:41.200 --> 2:31:43.520 see So that's that's how I signed. That's how I 2:31:43.520 --> 2:31:48.880 signed Matty was in the the office here, No I 2:31:49.040 --> 2:31:52.440 found punt was. I was intocogo with Quincy on the 2:31:52.480 --> 2:31:59.440 private plane. As you know where we are, guy, I 2:31:59.480 --> 2:32:06.320 didn't even Nicky Benson calls me. Mickey calls me with 2:32:06.400 --> 2:32:09.400 Fat Joe on the phone. I said, Joe, I mean Chicago. 2:32:09.440 --> 2:32:11.800 I'll be in New York on Monday. Let's be Tuesday. 2:32:12.480 --> 2:32:15.119 From Thursday to Tuesday, I must get eight to ten 2:32:15.200 --> 2:32:18.760 calls that I shouldn't sign Joe because he's a gangster, 2:32:18.879 --> 2:32:23.080 he's an extortionist, exists, he's that. Joe comes to your office, 2:32:23.120 --> 2:32:24.480 I said, before we start the meeting, let me talk 2:32:24.480 --> 2:32:26.240 to you for a second. I said, I got ten 2:32:26.360 --> 2:32:32.640 calls that I shouldn't sign him or put Everybody says 2:32:32.640 --> 2:32:34.520 you're a gangster, you're an extortionist, And I said, you 2:32:34.600 --> 2:32:36.800 know what, but I'm a gangster and I love gangsters. 2:32:37.840 --> 2:32:46.640 I said, so we're gonna figures out that anaming. That's well. 2:32:46.680 --> 2:32:50.800 I love you. Jill is probably one of those people 2:32:50.959 --> 2:32:54.880 to be in life. Hey till me the same story 2:32:55.440 --> 2:33:06.240 word for word for big think could have made his 2:33:06.480 --> 2:33:08.880 side of the story, and you're could have made this 2:33:09.320 --> 2:33:13.800 your story, and it could be word for word for baid. Wait, 2:33:13.920 --> 2:33:17.720 it's I just want you to let you know thank you. 2:33:19.000 --> 2:33:28.720 It believes me like, like, that's that's crazy. So so 2:33:28.840 --> 2:33:31.000 say I forget, So say we meet. I meet Joe 2:33:31.080 --> 2:33:34.960 on Tuesday. I'm going back to l A on Thursday. 2:33:35.040 --> 2:33:39.520 Said can you come back tomorrow and bring Punt and 2:33:39.600 --> 2:33:41.320 the meetings earlier because I gotta catch a flight back 2:33:41.320 --> 2:33:44.720 to l A. So me say around eleven o'clock and Maddie, 2:33:44.840 --> 2:33:48.119 who has she had an office with, is in the office. 2:33:48.120 --> 2:33:50.920 I'm like, what the funk are you doing here again? 2:33:50.920 --> 2:33:53.280 I got a six figure of royalty check waiting for 2:33:53.320 --> 2:33:57.200 him that he hasn't picked up in six weeks. Maddow, 2:33:58.440 --> 2:34:01.560 here's an ant your meeting punk. I'm like, you came 2:34:01.640 --> 2:34:05.320 for this. The second day, walk into the meeting Joe 2:34:05.400 --> 2:34:07.840 and Pump, I said, you gotta deal. Who's your lawyer? 2:34:07.920 --> 2:34:09.920 Everybody's like, are you bullshit me up? Like, I'm not 2:34:10.040 --> 2:34:11.640 not bullshitting it, and Maddie goes, well, what are you 2:34:11.640 --> 2:34:13.400 gonna do? I said, your job to make the ricket 2:34:13.440 --> 2:34:14.800 and your head push do you want to hear this? 2:34:15.440 --> 2:34:17.560 And that's how the deal was done. I couick the boy. 2:34:17.560 --> 2:34:20.240 It was tim and the bout called bigger about them. 2:34:20.800 --> 2:34:24.320 He was more lawyer at the time, and the deal 2:34:24.440 --> 2:34:33.640 was done within a week. And what what and you 2:34:33.800 --> 2:34:36.760 go did you did you think? Like? Because all right, 2:34:36.840 --> 2:34:41.800 Joe at the time, Um well, I'm not inven sure 2:34:41.920 --> 2:34:44.440 Joe was kind of gold time. No it wasn't. It 2:34:44.600 --> 2:34:47.280 wasn't even gold. But he was funny as how. He 2:34:47.400 --> 2:34:50.720 made me laugh. It was when night. I guess Chris 2:34:50.879 --> 2:34:53.119 was managing him for a minute two but right, yeah, yes, yes, 2:34:53.240 --> 2:34:55.320 So there was one day meet and Chris were on 2:34:55.400 --> 2:34:57.120 the way to play bowling, had to stop at the studio. 2:34:57.879 --> 2:35:00.480 You and Christmas all the way what played basketball? Okay? 2:35:00.480 --> 2:35:04.600 All right, and Joe was outside the studio. I don't 2:35:04.600 --> 2:35:07.520 know Joe at the time, but he cracked a joke. 2:35:07.920 --> 2:35:11.160 The window was open, and I mean I was just laughing. So, 2:35:12.680 --> 2:35:14.680 like I said, I can only judge you, but how 2:35:14.680 --> 2:35:18.000 do you treat me? You know? And that's how I'm 2:35:18.000 --> 2:35:20.000 going to treat you. So I mean, and that's what 2:35:20.080 --> 2:35:23.800 people literally called you all said don't yeah, I mean, 2:35:23.840 --> 2:35:26.360 I don't know who's gonna keep Benton tall. And he's 2:35:26.400 --> 2:35:28.600 told his story on Drink Care. So many tells it's 2:35:28.720 --> 2:35:32.959 so great to Yeah, so like, let's say this story 2:35:32.959 --> 2:35:35.080 because he told his story. So we had a meeting. Um, 2:35:36.120 --> 2:35:39.520 you know what, Jeremy's the guy from ut Okay, right, 2:35:39.640 --> 2:35:43.080 so I brought Joe to That's the guy I introduced it. 2:35:43.640 --> 2:35:48.160 Gu Yeah, so Joe told him the story the end 2:35:48.240 --> 2:35:53.360 the day and I'm like, yeah, it's true. God damn 2:35:53.400 --> 2:36:00.720 makes a larger stay working. And then you know, we 2:36:00.800 --> 2:36:05.720 took Joe to Vegas with us. That's that's because I've 2:36:05.760 --> 2:36:09.640 been hearing this. You have the keys to a private 2:36:10.120 --> 2:36:13.400 room in a strip club in Vegas. I mean, I 2:36:13.440 --> 2:36:15.800 don't know if it's specting the day. I mean it 2:36:16.000 --> 2:36:20.080 was the Crazy Horse to Crazy Horse. I knew that. Know, 2:36:20.280 --> 2:36:23.480 if you want to our uncle, our uncle, your uncle 2:36:23.600 --> 2:36:26.960 all day? What kind of uncle's it sounds like some 2:36:29.200 --> 2:36:33.120 shot ship, like like mafia ship making the day. I 2:36:33.120 --> 2:36:35.520 ain't a lot of your father. I ain't a lot 2:36:35.600 --> 2:36:38.760 your father on the record, Labe when your uncles the car? 2:36:40.240 --> 2:36:46.000 What's going on here? We're good, we're here high school. 2:36:46.080 --> 2:36:52.920 This is the mafia? Dog is really I respected? I 2:36:52.959 --> 2:37:02.560 would saying that we had house in acts in case 2:37:02.600 --> 2:37:05.160 people don't know, man, and we're doing it man, Yo, 2:37:05.280 --> 2:37:07.680 Steve Man, thank you for taking time out. But let's 2:37:07.680 --> 2:37:10.400 also let's pick up this motherfucking concert that's going down. 2:37:11.160 --> 2:37:12.800 What is it going down? And what date is it? 2:37:13.320 --> 2:37:16.920 January thirty, New York City Radio City Music Hall, January 2:37:17.160 --> 2:37:21.560 thirty of motherfucking New York City. A lot of experience, 2:37:21.640 --> 2:37:25.880 a lot of Tradio City Music Hall having hip hop 2:37:25.920 --> 2:37:29.560 shows with that man. Tomorrow, I'm going to shot from 2:37:29.600 --> 2:37:34.520 my jacket because it sounds very cold, because I don't 2:37:34.600 --> 2:37:37.080 do the cold no more in New York City. Let's 2:37:37.080 --> 2:37:38.800 try not to. I checked the weather. It says to 2:37:38.879 --> 2:37:41.960 be degrees. That's cold to me, sir. What was the 2:37:42.080 --> 2:37:44.880 first hip hop show? Ranging? City Music Cup? What? What 2:37:45.120 --> 2:37:49.000 was the first hip hop show ranging? I would say 2:37:49.040 --> 2:37:52.800 the MTB Awards. What was the first one? I think 2:37:52.800 --> 2:37:56.240 it was The Roots The Roots in two thousand five 2:37:56.959 --> 2:38:02.360 with the BC Boys opening from Madonna The Like Emergent album. 2:38:02.640 --> 2:38:04.119 I don't know if I called that all the way 2:38:04.240 --> 2:38:09.879 hip hop show. Yeah, boys headlines, OBC Boys participated, partician 2:38:10.000 --> 2:38:13.200 half hip hop, But I don't know you're right with that. 2:38:13.520 --> 2:38:16.680 Where did they get food? They got? Guys? It was 2:38:16.760 --> 2:38:20.240 Madonna's crowd, like you know, oh Diabo that Drake at 2:38:20.320 --> 2:38:25.720 Um Tyler Um the career that crowd tying the Yeah 2:38:26.000 --> 2:38:29.760 you don't know, like Drake got booed Drake at Tyler's festival. 2:38:30.080 --> 2:38:38.120 Yeah exactly, I said, the said man definitely whatever that 2:38:38.240 --> 2:38:42.200 makes it real better. But yeah, yeah that so you 2:38:42.280 --> 2:38:45.240 said best boys dealt Drake. So this is the Drake 2:38:45.600 --> 2:38:48.720 Boys from from Madonna. But what tour was it? Like? 2:38:48.760 --> 2:38:52.160 It was like the Black Emergent talk like up so 2:38:53.240 --> 2:38:59.199 test for the very Crow saying it's before and everything 2:38:59.240 --> 2:39:03.040 knew that act. They were just like getting hot and 2:39:03.240 --> 2:39:06.600 they but Drake been hot. He's not supposed to be. 2:39:07.040 --> 2:39:08.880 He's not supposed to be. He was not. Did you 2:39:08.959 --> 2:39:12.320 see that year? I heard about it. Yet his fans 2:39:12.440 --> 2:39:15.080 is terrible class. Let's just be clear. I don't want 2:39:15.680 --> 2:39:18.160 but Tyler responded he was dope the way he like 2:39:18.280 --> 2:39:20.920 he came back at his fan, Yeah him to fun him? 2:39:21.440 --> 2:39:31.280 Then he no him? Was he not? When I tried 2:39:31.360 --> 2:39:36.560 signing him Thylan Future Future, which is sucking ill the 2:39:36.640 --> 2:39:42.480 whole cruise because up the swasticker what they did? What? Yeah? 2:39:42.680 --> 2:39:44.040 And I guess they were trying to get a reaction 2:39:44.080 --> 2:39:45.640 out of me, and it was just like a real 2:39:45.680 --> 2:39:51.080 swastika or the Chinese they drew a real swastick in 2:39:51.120 --> 2:39:53.880 the conference room the meeting that I was having. Not funny. 2:39:54.320 --> 2:39:58.120 Oh wow, yeah, okay, I can't. So I was just 2:39:58.280 --> 2:40:03.040 like as a little to Yeah, not funny. I think 2:40:03.080 --> 2:40:08.560 that's we're in it. Yeah, we're just phenomenon. But let's 2:40:08.640 --> 2:40:11.879 let's what this is this concert again? This is January 2:40:12.000 --> 2:40:15.800 THIRTI next Thursday, Radio City Music Hall. When this comes 2:40:15.800 --> 2:40:20.160 out this Thursday, Yes, this Thursday comes out, this coming Thursday. Yeah, 2:40:20.560 --> 2:40:23.160 when this comes out, it's this Thursday, because yeah, being 2:40:23.280 --> 2:40:28.119 like Monday. Has somebody liked this Thursday, January thirtieth, Yes, 2:40:28.280 --> 2:40:29.960 and we're gonna get up. We're gonna get us up 2:40:30.000 --> 2:40:35.160 there because Steve got the private platte. There were quite 2:40:35.200 --> 2:40:37.840 we gotta quis play, you know, just real quick, bring 2:40:38.000 --> 2:40:40.800 chess for hostess and get the funk about it. He's 2:40:40.879 --> 2:40:49.520 orchestading in the band. Yeah, man, John d Man, Randy 2:40:49.600 --> 2:40:52.640 accum Man, y'all, thank y'all for you know, Randia is 2:40:52.680 --> 2:40:55.400 a part of you know us but you know you guys, 2:40:55.480 --> 2:40:58.360 but you know, you know, we really appreciate what you do, guys. 2:40:58.440 --> 2:41:01.879 Till for the business does stan told for your artists 2:41:02.600 --> 2:41:05.400 and we respect that and thank you guys, you know 2:41:05.440 --> 2:41:16.760 what I mean what and then h drops. Thanks for 2:41:16.840 --> 2:41:19.360 joining us for another episode of Drink Champs hosted by 2:41:19.400 --> 2:41:21.600 yours truly, d J e f N and n O 2:41:21.760 --> 2:41:23.800 R E. Please make sure to follow us on all 2:41:23.840 --> 2:41:27.520 our socials. 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