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Speaker 1: Happy hour type of crazy ship make And right now,
Speaker 1: when you talk about the death finition of CEO, when
Speaker 1: you talk about a person who stood by hip hop
Speaker 1: and put it on the likes of people in your
Speaker 1: favorite acts like boot Tank Clan, Big Punt Uh Dead
Speaker 1: Prazu marb Deep Uh. These are people that you probably
Speaker 1: wouldn't even You probably wouldn't even know if this guy,
Speaker 1: you know, gave Fact Joe a great opportunity. This guy
Speaker 1: is out here and he's still out here. He's dated
Speaker 1: some of the most beautiful women in the world. So
Speaker 1: we're gonna get into that. We also already had the
Speaker 1: keys to a Vegas Strip club by himself in a
Speaker 1: beautiful way. He look, he's blushing. That's a beautiful way
Speaker 1: this guy has been doing. You know, I've been out
Speaker 1: in this music industry. Has Kevin Industree team invented the
Speaker 1: street Team? He invented it. If you look at the
Speaker 1: Woot Tank Clan documentary, so I think is one of
Speaker 1: the ghost uh greatest beautiful list documentary, you can see
Speaker 1: him in there. He actually has hair phenomenal here too,
Speaker 1: he looked like the fawns. If you don't know, I'm
Speaker 1: talking about talking about my good friend Steve motherfucking Now,
Speaker 1: that is a debate. That is a hip hop debate, Right,
Speaker 1: who invented the Street Team? Okay? But if you remember, okay,
Speaker 1: when we did drink Champs in l A in my
Speaker 1: office and what Puff said, Okay, I've got I've got there.
Speaker 1: There was someone's going on that. What did he say?
Speaker 1: He did them? Yeah? He did? What is trying to
Speaker 1: say that he no, no, he never you know, he
Speaker 1: never mean Me and p were always close. I mean,
Speaker 1: but how did you develop even that? Right, Steve because
Speaker 1: at the time hip hop was just it was like billboard,
Speaker 1: uh driven and things of that nature. How did you say,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm getting a crew and you know,
Speaker 1: because like it's basically like likes something was It was
Speaker 1: more than that. I was really dyslexic as a kid.
Speaker 1: We're all dyslexic. So you know where all Jews go
Speaker 1: when they get They moved down to Miami. So my
Speaker 1: grandparents moved to Miami and my grandfather called. My grandfather
Speaker 1: called me and he said, um, you gotta get your
Speaker 1: ship together. You gonna end up better, you gonna end
Speaker 1: up in jail. He goes, why don't you go work
Speaker 1: with your dad? So my dad had a label called
Speaker 1: Spring Records, So that was Fat Back Band who put
Speaker 1: out the first hip hoper record, Billie Jackson, Joe Simon
Speaker 1: and James and James Brown and James Brown through polygraph Yes.
Speaker 1: So he sent me on the road when I was
Speaker 1: eighteen years old. I didn't go to college, so I'm
Speaker 1: visiting radio stations and visiting people my age now, and
Speaker 1: I was like, what the fund do I want to
Speaker 1: hang out with a fifty year old? So I ended
Speaker 1: up going back to the college. So I knew what
Speaker 1: an intern was, you know, where I would be like,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna send you some records. You know, nobody
Speaker 1: was making really T shirts at the time. There was
Speaker 1: no really postal boards, there wasn't any of that, and
Speaker 1: I just saw so I started zigzagging across the country
Speaker 1: and I just put a network of people together. So
Speaker 1: and that's how it really is, just the precursor of
Speaker 1: like street teams and reached this is so you know,
Speaker 1: then my dad gave Russell his first deal, yeah, at
Speaker 1: Spring with a record called Dollar Billio by Jimmy Spicer.
Speaker 1: So I kept on just they just kept me on
Speaker 1: the road and I just started networking and just meeting
Speaker 1: like all these colds you said, they keep you want
Speaker 1: to go about like artists only two months label, well
Speaker 1: the label was really my dad's label, but I really
Speaker 1: wasn't working for him. He was just trying to see
Speaker 1: if I had any heart and any balls to do this.
Speaker 1: And you know, look at that difficult There was no GPS.
Speaker 1: You would have to take out a map and just
Speaker 1: figure out how you gonna get from Atlanta to Alabama.
Speaker 1: And just like the paper, no cell phones, so you'd
Speaker 1: have to walk around. You know, every night I left,
Speaker 1: it would be like ten dollars worth of Cortis and
Speaker 1: just so okay. So when it was when was it
Speaker 1: with the point where you said, this is a street
Speaker 1: team like like this this is that was because most
Speaker 1: other labels hiring you to do that. This was something
Speaker 1: he was doing. So the marketing company I had before
Speaker 1: there was Loud, there was a Stephen Rifkin Company, right,
Speaker 1: so that was the mark. Yeah, I thought was after
Speaker 1: Loud it just tace. That was the second record with
Speaker 1: So Stephen Rifkin Company was an independent promotion company, right.
Speaker 1: So I moved Metachick moved out to a hooked up
Speaker 1: with a company called The Delicious. Final they had yet
Speaker 1: to Young City, so new Heavies were on, did the
Speaker 1: whole campaign for all these records, and it was just
Speaker 1: now putting the street team together. They moved, They moved,
Speaker 1: and I really always wanted to have my own company
Speaker 1: because I was like, you know, I'm going to keep
Speaker 1: your guys office. So I think I had three thousand
Speaker 1: dollars to my name, and I made brochures and I
Speaker 1: was going to New York for um my cousin's wedding
Speaker 1: and I sent um all the broshures that have to
Speaker 1: all the different labels, and I came back with a
Speaker 1: hundred dollars worth of business. Yeah, like I said, I
Speaker 1: put I sent every record company and I just said,
Speaker 1: this is what we're gonna handle. We're gonna handle B Team,
Speaker 1: gonna handle empty pe, We're gonna handle college radio. We're
Speaker 1: gonna handle mixshow radio. And it was never about and
Speaker 1: it was never about mainstream radio and not coming with you,
Speaker 1: I mean with the mix show power Summers came from
Speaker 1: but like because like that was that came from her name,
Speaker 1: but that came like in the midnight and that and
Speaker 1: that was after how can I Be Down? To how
Speaker 1: can I Be down? Sort of inspiring all that though, Okay,
Speaker 1: what was Jack the Rapper was the first one? The original?
Speaker 1: That the original? So it's Jack the Rapper, Then it's
Speaker 1: what thenn it's how can I do that? Then it's
Speaker 1: but there was a convention that I want to the
Speaker 1: college radio the Gavin Report. But my dad took me
Speaker 1: to a convention when I was eighteen years old. I
Speaker 1: mean it was just was in Miami and they took
Speaker 1: him that hotel. It was called the Non Convention and
Speaker 1: it was mostly your sales convention. It just happened right now.
Speaker 1: But the pushy there was like holy shi the pussy
Speaker 1: was we weren't ready. I mean, it was just ridiculous.
Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, I think I really want to
Speaker 1: be in this Recordnisse and this is so boom. Now
Speaker 1: you developed the street team, now Loud, I know, I'm
Speaker 1: bouncing around that. Let's just just go because this was
Speaker 1: this was like quit assentially, like if you were you know,
Speaker 1: from an artist that just wanted to stay, an artist
Speaker 1: that was known that. Now lets you do what the
Speaker 1: fun you have? Did you want to do? But I
Speaker 1: gotta be honest with you. It started with Woultang Klan.
Speaker 1: I can remember me seeing Protect your Neck for the
Speaker 1: first time, and I'm like, no one cares about these people.
Speaker 1: Like that was like definitely like so like what what what?
Speaker 1: What was it? What was it like meeting? I know
Speaker 1: we spoken who were the first artists signed the remember
Speaker 1: seeing a Twister? Twister was the first artist and then
Speaker 1: shortly after so it was Twister was a group out
Speaker 1: of l A called Mad Cat that had caught a
Speaker 1: nice little buzz. Now then the Lips and this is
Speaker 1: your time in l A. That's inspiring. These last started
Speaker 1: in l A. So that's why, because you're you're you're
Speaker 1: coming out of New York at some point and it's
Speaker 1: you're signing these underground l A artists exactly the Licks exhibit,
Speaker 1: all these guys. So exhibit was after it was the Licks.
Speaker 1: And then I was in New York to my thirty
Speaker 1: first birthday and Rizzards just showed up after me trying
Speaker 1: to reach him for three weeks and he was m rocking.
Speaker 1: He was Prince Christop. So he comes up. I'm in
Speaker 1: an office no bigger than this, no bigger than this table,
Speaker 1: and I was with these swift from the alcoholics, and
Speaker 1: he goes, do you mind if I bring the guys up?
Speaker 1: He's shipping alcoholis the same No, Rizzi is saying that,
Speaker 1: So the whole, the whole plan comes up office was
Speaker 1: the size of this table. They put the record on,
Speaker 1: they stopped performing. Is a protecting that it was protecting
Speaker 1: that some guy comes running through the office And to
Speaker 1: this day, I don't know if I was set up
Speaker 1: by Rizzo or the guy really worked. And he says,
Speaker 1: that's that ships that I've never seen him again, because
Speaker 1: this is That's what I don't want to know for you.
Speaker 1: Right at the time, you're a hip hop fan, all right,
Speaker 1: and everything in hip hop, right if you was to
Speaker 1: bring even component or people will compare us to markti Uh,
Speaker 1: he was a great repair. You know. It's it's you
Speaker 1: know they grant there that you rock him. Na, that's
Speaker 1: rock him at the time when it's nine motherfucker's there
Speaker 1: is not one fucking thing that you can compare them too.
Speaker 1: So did that? Did that? Did that frustrate you? Didn't
Speaker 1: because it seemed it wasn't intimidating either. So many people
Speaker 1: just don't forget. I never considered myself and our guy, right,
Speaker 1: I always consider myself a promotion guy. I mean that
Speaker 1: that's what I came first. So before there was research,
Speaker 1: there was right, I had the street chinga. So my
Speaker 1: guy in Detroit is calling my a and our guy
Speaker 1: on the West coast. This record is blowing the funk
Speaker 1: up like white They white labeled it prior to they
Speaker 1: were doing their own thing, one of the original records.
Speaker 1: I never knew that they that original video was doing
Speaker 1: doing it. Yeah, oh, never doing college college. I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking when I first saw that, I was there's
Speaker 1: no record label that they loved him. Man like you
Speaker 1: about my first time seeing it, because you know you
Speaker 1: have all this get William videos at the time. Later
Speaker 1: we hype his first video. Wait a minute, did we
Speaker 1: just go there? No? No, no open right now? How
Speaker 1: many bottles are you opening? They just wanted to take
Speaker 1: this back to the I'm sure I'll let you get
Speaker 1: it again. Come on, may go still they goddamn well,
Speaker 1: I can't hold on. You gave hypeers first. I'm almost positive. Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean this is this, No, this is kind of
Speaker 1: be also simple with with three and goest. I didn't
Speaker 1: even realize that was like Canada. It's so simple, I
Speaker 1: can't sing. Let me finish that. So okay, because we
Speaker 1: bounced all around me meet businesses. It's nine of us,
Speaker 1: because it wasn't tim at first, I was eight. It
Speaker 1: was everybody but Kappa was away. It was away. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you meet these guys. How was the first time
Speaker 1: me hold dirty Bastard? I mean, every time I see
Speaker 1: old dirty bast he was digging up his nose a
Speaker 1: switter like every time. I've never really I don't I
Speaker 1: think I've getting dating bastard or five. Like I've met
Speaker 1: dirty bast like like forty five times in my life
Speaker 1: and I'm probably getting a real five like twice because
Speaker 1: I've always been like, yeah, come on, he's just always
Speaker 1: he's just always a foul character around me with me
Speaker 1: at a heart of goal, Like, I mean, I was
Speaker 1: like big bro to him. I mean it was weird.
Speaker 1: I mean it's never had one ounce, you know, like
Speaker 1: the day that they ran, when he ran on the
Speaker 1: stage in the Grammys when he said thanks for the children.
Speaker 1: I lived across the street and I already knew that
Speaker 1: we lost, like you know, we got the call and
Speaker 1: he's like, well, how came you not going? I said,
Speaker 1: we already lost. Man. He goes, I just put this
Speaker 1: two thousand dollar suit, this, that, so on so on.
Speaker 1: So after he jumps on stead what did it lose to?
Speaker 1: Lauren Hill has google um When he goes on stage,
Speaker 1: he takes you know, the trophy, He comes to my house,
Speaker 1: knocks on the door. It was like, how do I do?
Speaker 1: H That was like hip hop's first vibral moment because
Speaker 1: that was like you would do that all the time
Speaker 1: I saw him, and how can I do? Where it was?
Speaker 1: I think Capleton was performing. Were you there when he
Speaker 1: jumped on stage and he did some crazy stuff and
Speaker 1: it was he like interrupted the whole show. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you a story. We were doing a performance at Gabin,
Speaker 1: New Orleans. So, um, we're flying there, I'm with my
Speaker 1: wife was pregnant with that first child, and I feel
Speaker 1: like you're private. I feel like you're private. I feel
Speaker 1: like he was like the first dude I knew frying
Speaker 1: private plane. Get back, took back to that. Let's make
Speaker 1: some yeah, said pirate plane. He places you taking private
Speaker 1: planes like it was like it was like changing drawers.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna live with they don't there loud boys,
Speaker 1: but this was commercial. So I hear dirty, but as
Speaker 1: the first of my food. First class was the first
Speaker 1: first class taken that that I paid for him. So
Speaker 1: we're sitting in first class and I heard dirty, and
Speaker 1: he goes to his seat and I don't know what happened,
Speaker 1: but he starts going off okay, and then the flight
Speaker 1: attendant comes to me. They said, um, Mr Jones, his
Speaker 1: last name was Jones, is requesting to see you. And
Speaker 1: he's not the first class. He's on electric budget at
Speaker 1: the time. Um, so I go, I have to talk
Speaker 1: to him, and he just you know, I had a
Speaker 1: feeling about the plane. So I was like, ship, maybe,
Speaker 1: then let's if you're having this feeling, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: take and cancel. Let's get the fun up. He goes,
Speaker 1: you're really gonna get off with me. I'm like here,
Speaker 1: he goes, now, then we're good. Like as long as
Speaker 1: I know that we're wait together, we're going down again.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, I'm like show and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm positive. Right, I'm panicking the whole fucking flight. One
Speaker 1: middle fucking bump. I'm just like, right, so and he's
Speaker 1: at like a light sleeping and like before hours, you know,
Speaker 1: my hands are like so, so I guess what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to ask you, right, is this is like probably
Speaker 1: the biggest gamble, right because having a nine people, I'm like,
Speaker 1: having a four man group is just one man group.
Speaker 1: So because because I imagined in the beginning they all
Speaker 1: had one manager, I managed magetting, they all just listened
Speaker 1: to reason, I imagine you can you can refute this.
Speaker 1: This is just me being a fans. I really was
Speaker 1: too young. I'm like a couple of years later, but
Speaker 1: I imagine, but when I see it. Let's look at
Speaker 1: the documentary. What was my was a brother name? I
Speaker 1: can't imagine that it was when it was all pieces
Speaker 1: and cream. But when is the moment where you saying
Speaker 1: to myself, when you say to yourself, holy sh it,
Speaker 1: I got we're going to be considered the new rock
Speaker 1: stars and they're fucking signed to me, Like, when does
Speaker 1: that moment hit you? It never really come on, Steve No,
Speaker 1: I mean I was just you know, I found out
Speaker 1: we went gold the day you got Sun got shot
Speaker 1: damn um and this is the first album, just the
Speaker 1: first Alba yeah, and all you know, my brothers with me,
Speaker 1: who was my partner and God blesses, God bless um.
Speaker 1: So it was like I never really thought it. To me,
Speaker 1: was just always was. I always felt we were the underdog.
Speaker 1: So to me, it was just always taking it to
Speaker 1: the next eleven. So if we went to gold, have
Speaker 1: we get the platinum? Everything like that. So let me
Speaker 1: ask you, when you say it's great what you just said,
Speaker 1: it felt like he was the underdog. I have to ask, well,
Speaker 1: underdog compared to like puff Daddy, what they had going on,
Speaker 1: def Jam or was it in this universal we were
Speaker 1: at BMG at the time. But when I'm saying me
Speaker 1: really just because I didn't know how to read the
Speaker 1: right So I was twelve thirteen years old, you know,
Speaker 1: my DELEXI me getting in trouble was like my family
Speaker 1: always looked at me like, oh, he's you know, the
Speaker 1: crazy one. Just that you know, my brother went to school.
Speaker 1: I didn't go to school. He had a real job,
Speaker 1: you know, he worked at Electric Records. He was the
Speaker 1: youngest national promotion guy. So I'm talking about God. It
Speaker 1: was his name again, Jonathan, Jonathan Johnson. We have a
Speaker 1: whole lout sh but continued. So I just always felt
Speaker 1: that was the end dog And it was like I
Speaker 1: never at I thought I was never in competition with Puff.
Speaker 1: I never wanted to, you know, Puff was Did you
Speaker 1: have a criteria when you were looking at these artists,
Speaker 1: like you wanted something for you that you liked or
Speaker 1: something that you thought was going to resonate? Were like
Speaker 1: great questions, That's an amazing question. So with woud Tang,
Speaker 1: I have a corny saying the streets don't buy right.
Speaker 1: So my feedback from the Street team was just giving
Speaker 1: me that information that I just knew we had something
Speaker 1: when mob Deep came up to the office, I mean
Speaker 1: proud of you. Wasn't there, but it was happening. And
Speaker 1: just Twin Twin you know that that that HEP crew
Speaker 1: and they created Ruckus from the second we had the
Speaker 1: first meeting, and I was like, you know what, this
Speaker 1: is the perfect follow up to what I'm going to
Speaker 1: tell you. The energy people want to tell you as
Speaker 1: a person that was living in the streets, like after Woutang,
Speaker 1: like I'm going to tell you to be honest, this
Speaker 1: is no one really thought Would Tang was going on
Speaker 1: like not only get signed, but when because it's a
Speaker 1: difference to us in the hood getting signed, we thought
Speaker 1: we won that ship meant nothing. Getting sign was one
Speaker 1: part of it. You have to actually go out there
Speaker 1: and make some amazing records and things like that. But
Speaker 1: when Wu Tang and the fact that you know, you
Speaker 1: would always see these artists like they'll they'll come out
Speaker 1: and they'll get a little success and then they'll get
Speaker 1: polished and then they have something, well Wou Tang, it
Speaker 1: was like it didn't matter like if one of them
Speaker 1: were Hollywood, like if a method man wore another pants
Speaker 1: or something, it would be like you knew ghost Face
Speaker 1: would say something about it, like why are you doing that?
Speaker 1: Like they all kept each other balanced. And this was
Speaker 1: the first time that I've seen hip hop like developed
Speaker 1: from star from just being startled and too mega startup
Speaker 1: where these guys were in Japan and Itchy Bomb and
Speaker 1: Kolniki Way and ship like that, and like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like like this this is I'm wondering.
Speaker 1: Like you, you didn't sit back and just was like, Wow,
Speaker 1: I didn't have time. Wow I didn't have to. There
Speaker 1: was Land. There was still the marketing company. So at
Speaker 1: that time, wo I was still promoting pretty much every
Speaker 1: hip I break it into business. You're still working for
Speaker 1: other labels. Yeah, so SRC is still a functioning comp
Speaker 1: as a street team or one of the marketing street
Speaker 1: team and consulting the labels. So Leo calls in him
Speaker 1: has to be mad at ship that you come on.
Speaker 1: Doesn't want to help me get out of here? No,
Speaker 1: I was just playing around. I want to know, let's
Speaker 1: get out of here, because I think I think you
Speaker 1: might have scared him up. I think you do you
Speaker 1: think I mean we just I mean, I guess did
Speaker 1: I go back and for us? Since some sixteen years old. Right.
Speaker 1: But Leo on the other hand, to me, oh man,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I didn't I didn't expect to hear this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So when was the when was the moment you and
Speaker 1: Leo you think fell out? We never really fell out,
Speaker 1: you know, but when I realized, like this is really
Speaker 1: a business, that it's that it's not love. And when
Speaker 1: he tried to stay flex Okay, that's right, from flexes
Speaker 1: down UM sixty minutes of funk, right. Oh, and Leo
Speaker 1: came in trying to snap and snoop them. Okay, it
Speaker 1: makes sense, makes sense. They don't play that ship. You guys,
Speaker 1: two guys did not play that, can you When it
Speaker 1: comes to that? So what what what? What is that?
Speaker 1: From CEO to CEO? UM Okay, hit us out though,
Speaker 1: you set up Leo to to have one of the
Speaker 1: biggest acts ever because when you signed Loud, I think
Speaker 1: that UM still to this day is one of the
Speaker 1: most genius hip hop deals ever. Because I'm sorry, I'm
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, thank you when you sound lu
Speaker 1: tang still but you allowed them to go out and
Speaker 1: and method Man was the first one that was signed
Speaker 1: to Deathcap. Actually Dirty was the first one signed to
Speaker 1: the lest your first My history is fucking getting fun
Speaker 1: off snipped off? How close was it to the Deally
Speaker 1: y'all did? Wasn't it like time? No, it was maybe
Speaker 1: a month before because I thought pain, I thought bringing
Speaker 1: the pain. But Beth came, Meth came out of the
Speaker 1: action that broke out came first off again he had
Speaker 1: the NBT or TRAG record, right, so that which was
Speaker 1: a wood Tank record, right, so that jump started his
Speaker 1: solo career right. Then we came with Cream right, so
Speaker 1: that was Ray Go, I mean Ray Deck and Math
Speaker 1: on the hooking up. So and that record just death
Speaker 1: Cam signed them from there or Deathcam signed from the
Speaker 1: NBT record. Let me so, let me ask you, Ann
Speaker 1: known bouncing all over the place. Did they have to
Speaker 1: come to you for Clarence? No? So our deal was
Speaker 1: don't get start off as a single deal, the whole plan,
Speaker 1: the whole plan. Start up as a single deal. This
Speaker 1: is how many singles, just one singles, just one single,
Speaker 1: and if it hit a certain plateau about him turned
Speaker 1: into an app. Okay, So within the first week we
Speaker 1: did the first week, right, So our copies not the
Speaker 1: ship that they're doing now. So automatic I think goes
Speaker 1: into goes into the album Leland Russell Mass. I think
Speaker 1: it was a buck semi five, which was in those
Speaker 1: days like five million dollars and the open. Yeah, there
Speaker 1: was no I mean, as much as I wanted to
Speaker 1: match it, there was no way I couldn't match it
Speaker 1: at the time. At the time so Um and he
Speaker 1: wanted to be at depth Cham anyway. So I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what the talking bad. So in the late eighties,
Speaker 1: I was managing New Edition for a minute. Oh ship
Speaker 1: Mike so Um and Ralph was wanting to leave the
Speaker 1: group and everything and yeah, and that's why Johnny came in.
Speaker 1: So I was like, the group will always be bigger
Speaker 1: than the solo besides my besides Michael. So I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, you know, and to me it was about survival, right.
Speaker 1: I didn't consider myself. I didn't have an A and
Speaker 1: our staff yet. I had one guy in l A.
Speaker 1: I didn't have Maddie or Free yet or anything like that.
Speaker 1: So it was like, so you didn't have to sign
Speaker 1: off the math it was basically, but he did. He
Speaker 1: came to you as an adverse. They know they had
Speaker 1: to end the deal. We had first, right, Okay, first, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I was getting there. So that's um, you
Speaker 1: have regretted that you haven't regretted like I mean, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of things I say, wouldn't have paid for it,
Speaker 1: you know. Um, I mean when Jane Day came, we
Speaker 1: get into that. Yeah, let's right now. So I mean
Speaker 1: I had a report to our c A. So we
Speaker 1: came out into blue your distribution be we we came
Speaker 1: out of a blue people based in l A. I
Speaker 1: was creat creating, having you know, I was spontify fucking nuts, right,
Speaker 1: I had a temper everything else like that, so I
Speaker 1: wasn't allowing um our say to shoot on us, you know.
Speaker 1: And then we got lucky. There was a guy who
Speaker 1: after he turned into a brother rows got the name
Speaker 1: of Mojo Nicosia, who was a promotion guy at our
Speaker 1: c A. And we just brought him into our family.
Speaker 1: And you know, this this guy Jesse, he stayed at
Speaker 1: our CIA and just busted his ass and he went
Speaker 1: on a van and he zigzagged across the country with
Speaker 1: the group on our CIA Stein you know that, you know,
Speaker 1: and then you know he got hit by a truck
Speaker 1: helping promote, you know, promoting our stuff. So and it
Speaker 1: was like when he got yeah, when he um, when
Speaker 1: he was halfway healed, I said, funk, you're coming with us,
Speaker 1: you know. And then him and my brother and then
Speaker 1: there's Rich Isaacson. They literally ran the company. Um so
Speaker 1: they literally you know, round the company, Johnson Mojo around
Speaker 1: the whole streets and radio Rich rand the company. And
Speaker 1: it was really you know, the four of us that
Speaker 1: just you know, and then we brought in Maddie and
Speaker 1: then we brought in Free as already and our guys
Speaker 1: and you know as Loud had a motherfucking run man,
Speaker 1: Holy block. The movie. I mean it defined like the
Speaker 1: classic era that people talk about in like the early
Speaker 1: to mid nineties of hip hop that allowed to me
Speaker 1: to find it. Yeah. Now, okay, Boom the Clan drops
Speaker 1: thirty six shapes, right you know you you know you
Speaker 1: got you know, you got the new Mega Stars, right Boom,
Speaker 1: But no Method Man Um and Method Man is at death,
Speaker 1: jam Old b is at electric exactly. Yeah, Boom, but
Speaker 1: didn't you come out with another classic? But before that, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to sign Mike drown him wow before Mark,
Speaker 1: this is okay, this is right around Oh yeah, at
Speaker 1: the same time. So I meet her, okay, and we
Speaker 1: couldn't get this fucking sample quit for I forget the
Speaker 1: name of the single, but you know, but what it
Speaker 1: his first single one, right, So we couldn't get the
Speaker 1: sample cleard and and I actually said, just don't waste
Speaker 1: your time, and it's just focused on whoo and just
Speaker 1: and shook. One's starting to bubble. Oh yeah, that was
Speaker 1: that was a great But I don't know, but if
Speaker 1: if we did the deal with her, you would have
Speaker 1: got J baby a lot of DM DMX. I mean,
Speaker 1: it would have been it would have been a game changer.
Speaker 1: It would it would have been a whole different start.
Speaker 1: And they went to t VT with Steve Gottlieb like Gerano, Wow,
Speaker 1: So who do you think it's crazier O d V
Speaker 1: or DMX. I managed DMX. Now that's what I got.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't look at it as crazy. I
Speaker 1: mean I look at it as just passionate, just genius
Speaker 1: they both. I mean, I mean I wish and I
Speaker 1: told me like I would have loved to hurt a
Speaker 1: conversation between the two of them of love that too.
Speaker 1: But you got ten minutes to get one artist across
Speaker 1: the street ten minutes, right, and I just missed just
Speaker 1: for the rack of and you're gonna make ten million dollars.
Speaker 1: So you got old and I'm left and you got
Speaker 1: damn not tying buck. They're both engaged in having fun
Speaker 1: as it ticks around and like that. But there's one
Speaker 1: person you gotta get across, just between the two of them,
Speaker 1: between the twur the I would have probably had to
Speaker 1: go with Dirty. I mean, he was already easy. So
Speaker 1: you're saying Dirty is easier to work with the GMx. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: saying because he was already in the group, so it's
Speaker 1: kind of like a team player already. I mean it
Speaker 1: was just like I already had that relationship with them,
Speaker 1: So it's easy. Okay, it's easy. Okay, Because let me
Speaker 1: just tell you something, Steve. You've worked with Pun Pun Pun,
Speaker 1: you worked with Faginal, you worked with some of the
Speaker 1: wildest boys, like you know what I mean, dead Press exhibit,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, alcoholics. They're still crazy to this day. Yeah. Like,
Speaker 1: there's there's people that people won't even be around, and
Speaker 1: you just did great this six do six Monthfia just
Speaker 1: had DJ um. Yeah, so like, um, like you talk
Speaker 1: the business with hip hops elite but also hip hop's
Speaker 1: elite crazies. I was crazy, goddamn make some noise. So um,
Speaker 1: you andle are getting back to that for a second,
Speaker 1: right nearly or cool. It's just you know, there's there's
Speaker 1: but you know you're is about We are in his
Speaker 1: team and you know what. I respect, But it's like
Speaker 1: fun everybody else, right, I respect that. Yeah, not as concerts.
Speaker 1: You're doing. This is the second one of this is
Speaker 1: the first is the first one. It's the first one
Speaker 1: because you do so we're gonna do We were gonna
Speaker 1: do it at the Predential Center in New York, in
Speaker 1: New York, Okay, And my heart really was like my
Speaker 1: dream was always Radio City. So um when Radio City
Speaker 1: came available, Wow, congratulations I pulled it from the Predential Center. Mhmm.
Speaker 1: You're coming right, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm definitely gonna try
Speaker 1: to make it happy. We need Yeah, listen, man, I
Speaker 1: think I think, for for one, I think that this
Speaker 1: is so important. I think that you're setting another trend
Speaker 1: the same way you did with the street teams, the
Speaker 1: same street team, the same way you did with Loud
Speaker 1: the same way you did with in the If out
Speaker 1: the Box thinking with signing people like I think this
Speaker 1: is it as well. I commended because the thing is
Speaker 1: your legacy is so rich like Loud um um. I
Speaker 1: I feel sorry for sometimes for this generation when I
Speaker 1: look at this generation and they don't have powerhouse like Alloud,
Speaker 1: and they don't have that rich history where you know,
Speaker 1: back then being from the hood and going to a
Speaker 1: record label, it was like going to paradise. Like even
Speaker 1: though like you're still in Chinatown or some ship, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, You're not like lug of your
Speaker 1: part of the city, but just being out of the
Speaker 1: city and just I mean being out of the hood
Speaker 1: and just opportunity to being an opportunity to being able
Speaker 1: to sit down and smoke weed and get a haircut
Speaker 1: at the record label. Like and I'm I feel sorry
Speaker 1: that they don't really have that no more, like you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like at home feeling like you know,
Speaker 1: when I remember, you know, seeing having and being they
Speaker 1: would just be happy to go to a Loud. Don't
Speaker 1: go to LOUD. I'm like, oh ship, Like what the
Speaker 1: is that? A club like that? That's how happy they
Speaker 1: were like that they their their album came out. I
Speaker 1: shut the office stand, we go want to the park
Speaker 1: to playball. God damn, this is the CEO of a
Speaker 1: c You can see yourself down like an artist friendly
Speaker 1: CEO because the CEOs don't funk with artists at all.
Speaker 1: And then this CEO is that this CEOs like, I know,
Speaker 1: I'm getting locked up. Call him bro. I never get
Speaker 1: to myself as CEO. I always consider myself the artist first,
Speaker 1: and I think that's why the labels were probably always
Speaker 1: always scanted me, because I'd ever looked at a budget.
Speaker 1: It was like, if the artists really needs that, it
Speaker 1: makes sense. All right, we'll going, you know, if it's
Speaker 1: me sending rich or Jonathan on Mojo, like we're doing
Speaker 1: whatever the funk we have to do to really to
Speaker 1: get this stunt. That's well, and this will get back
Speaker 1: to this concept you got, Mark d I got everybody.
Speaker 1: Are you going to say, I'm so surprised as you've
Speaker 1: got Come on, come on, let's tell us though, I mean,
Speaker 1: are you committing? This is just no because I really
Speaker 1: wanted people to come out. Um, I forget who's on
Speaker 1: the list that you got that I got everybody why
Speaker 1: I got woo wow. And when you say wotan clan,
Speaker 1: you ain't talking about got will you one of the
Speaker 1: people in the world again? One of them won the phone?
Speaker 1: He wasn't you manage her? Who tang too? Before we go?
Speaker 1: Not really mad? I mean me and Rizrael like brothers.
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, Divine is the manager. Okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: well my mom and hopefully there'll be special guests doing prodigies.
Speaker 1: I might come out to give it up, give it
Speaker 1: up too much that I would. I would. Um, Joe
Speaker 1: and Remy are doing punk, Okay, I could do both sets. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Steve managing me right now, you're working both. Let's go
Speaker 1: dead President m op alcoholics, alcoholics Exhibit pretty six Fox,
Speaker 1: Pete Rock. Um, I'm trying to see what other label,
Speaker 1: other label can pull this all. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: And this is a tour, Let's be clear. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's a toy yet. We're gonna see how
Speaker 1: the first one goes. No, it's a tour. Steve could
Speaker 1: be a great tour, but he's being careful. Get me wrong.
Speaker 1: It's a headache talk because this is like a venue tour.
Speaker 1: This is uh, this is a summer jam tour like
Speaker 1: but this could be just could be a festival. That's
Speaker 1: that's what I'm that's that's what I'm trying to get that.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. Um no, we got everybody and
Speaker 1: the surprise guess are gonna be the surprise guys? Right?
Speaker 1: Holy ship? Elliott Wilson Okay, tell yeah, I ain't answering
Speaker 1: this question. He got her line, um so um so,
Speaker 1: so you you don't think I think it's I think
Speaker 1: it could be a tour. I think it would be
Speaker 1: a tour. I think it definitely could be a talk right,
Speaker 1: but let's you know, because because who who by themselves?
Speaker 1: Like I'm not gonna lie. I had to show what
Speaker 1: Wu Tang San Diego and that was one of the
Speaker 1: aircraft carriers. Yes, and oh my god still to this day,
Speaker 1: like I still like getting straight fan more like when
Speaker 1: I start seeing them like and then it's crazy because
Speaker 1: you know they're older now and you know before they
Speaker 1: used the clash on stage and like and now they're older,
Speaker 1: like so they like they know exactly where to be
Speaker 1: on stage at with time, and it's like it's like
Speaker 1: why for me, it's like watching the four Tops. So
Speaker 1: you know, like like you know, the Temptations or something
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, But our version of
Speaker 1: the tempt tastes because they're not you know, dancing and
Speaker 1: holding the mic and thrown it on the floor and
Speaker 1: bringing it back up. But it's our version of that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I love to see it
Speaker 1: like we did Australia a year ago, okay, at at
Speaker 1: the City our pre house, and I mean it just
Speaker 1: worked a perfection. I mean, mm hmm. That is that
Speaker 1: is that? Is that your favorite group you ever discovered?
Speaker 1: I know you can't say that. I mean, I mean
Speaker 1: it's your most proud moment. You know, we can't love
Speaker 1: change more than the other. But you know, you know
Speaker 1: there my first child there on my first plaque, okay, um.
Speaker 1: And you know with with the guys, I you know,
Speaker 1: I have a relationship with all of them. You know,
Speaker 1: me and Matth have the same birthday, so you know, um,
Speaker 1: me and still talk to three times a week. Me
Speaker 1: and Ray talk twice someone. Um so I see Matth
Speaker 1: give Mike Kaiser um dust Andrew Dust. It was the
Speaker 1: funniest thing in the world, he said. It was the
Speaker 1: funniest thing in the world. He was out in Vegas
Speaker 1: and you know, this is the time, and my guys
Speaker 1: were still like friends, Like he smokes weel and ship
Speaker 1: like that, and Math said, you'll Norri, don't smoke that
Speaker 1: blood said what he said? Everything else a little this one.
Speaker 1: So I said, you know what I'm smoking that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: say with it. I was a little mos and white
Speaker 1: guys that gave over. He had the blood and boy,
Speaker 1: it was a different thing. Man, is I'm gonna let
Speaker 1: you know my kind I got you. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: blow it up my fellow, my brother I got But
Speaker 1: do you ever realized that, um, what is it called fraternity?
Speaker 1: Like you know, in college, you know, you guys go
Speaker 1: to you know, they do all this ship. But years
Speaker 1: later that's what a fraternity is. Years later they come
Speaker 1: and they see each other and they look out for
Speaker 1: each other. I feel like hip hop is finally at
Speaker 1: the stage of becoming a fraternity. Like if I was
Speaker 1: ever walk in the hotel and I was to see
Speaker 1: so Pepper, my first thing is let me make sure
Speaker 1: they okay, as opposed to like, yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like I'm automatically protective do you feel like
Speaker 1: hip hop is becoming this fraternity? I think it's been
Speaker 1: for a minute. I think it would be Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's great. Even even with the divisions of the generations,
Speaker 1: it seems like like one thing is So for example,
Speaker 1: what why did you feel that right now was the
Speaker 1: time to do this concert? Was there a reason for it?
Speaker 1: Just came together that way? I saw a puff through
Speaker 1: his show which we were at the we were in
Speaker 1: the one in Vegas, right, right, So I went to
Speaker 1: the show in l A. And it blew my mind away,
Speaker 1: like literally just blew my mind with it. I'm coming
Speaker 1: off a heart attack, like and I'm watching this. And
Speaker 1: I remember texting him the next morning and saying, I
Speaker 1: saw Michael Jackson perform at the Apolo first time. After
Speaker 1: We've got to get back to this, right, so James Brown, right,
Speaker 1: and and I said, Pop, I've never seen a show
Speaker 1: like this in my life. And I said, I wonder
Speaker 1: if I could do it? And this was three years ago.
Speaker 1: So I had a heart attack, you know. So I'm
Speaker 1: just getting you know better, And then you know, I
Speaker 1: started working with you, So you know that took some time,
Speaker 1: and then the opportunity of this just Kane. So it's
Speaker 1: like a legacy show for you. I mean that's what
Speaker 1: I think that the Bad Boy one was a legacy thing.
Speaker 1: I mean this is this is more like when you
Speaker 1: said it's like I never took the time to smell
Speaker 1: the roses. Did Yeah, I believe I agree with you. Right,
Speaker 1: So I think this one I'm patting myself on the
Speaker 1: back and saying, hey, alright, look what it was, right,
Speaker 1: but it was, but it was puff show that really
Speaker 1: jumps off. Yeah. But I think I think this is
Speaker 1: definitely a tour. I think that um, we've interviewed everybody
Speaker 1: from like uh that press to having Pete Rock, Um
Speaker 1: obviously Wu Tang and um everyone always salute to as
Speaker 1: the you know, the o G the guy that you know,
Speaker 1: the CEO that was for the artist, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So I feel like I feel like everyone
Speaker 1: will come together and just be like, yo, man, let's
Speaker 1: get like you know, I don't want to say like
Speaker 1: like the last Hurrah, but like you remember how the
Speaker 1: Wayne way he did the last you know, the man
Speaker 1: and the last stance. Like I feel like this is
Speaker 1: for Loud, you know what I'm saying, Like for Loud,
Speaker 1: I think everyone will come together. You know we really
Speaker 1: for for artist. I mean, I gotta arrest it before
Speaker 1: throwing a chair through a glass door. Um, it happens
Speaker 1: for fighting for wou Tank getting the money that I
Speaker 1: felt they deserved a video, not not for a video.
Speaker 1: It was the renegotiation. It was for Rae Kwon solo
Speaker 1: record for Human Links, and it was for the wou
Speaker 1: Tank Forever album. So with our c A and I
Speaker 1: say dollars apart, I just give him the fucking money.
Speaker 1: And the business fans was a woman and she said,
Speaker 1: Stephen Riffin, I'm tired of your ship. I've never hit
Speaker 1: a woman in my life. But I took this chair
Speaker 1: and if I was facing this way with thirty six
Speaker 1: fours and it's going on Broadway, and I turned it
Speaker 1: around and I threw it through the glass door. Thirty
Speaker 1: six blows. You're taking the thirty six. So you know,
Speaker 1: the cops came, security came. Wow, that's great, that's great,
Speaker 1: that's great. Um, what do you feel about like the
Speaker 1: Me Too movement? Like because like you know, they got
Speaker 1: russelled like in Tahiti somewhere right now, they got him
Speaker 1: in Ted, he got himself. That's my man, but like, like,
Speaker 1: what do you feel about that? Like, like I don't
Speaker 1: I've personally see Russell be loose, but I've never seen
Speaker 1: him like the ship come on, like him raping somebody.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see that. I don't see what
Speaker 1: going on man um. I mean, Russell is like a
Speaker 1: brother to me, right, So you know, I wasn't around
Speaker 1: when you know, telling people are pressing trash from thirty
Speaker 1: five years ago, Like who the funk even remembers thirty
Speaker 1: five years that's crazy. So it was like, you know,
Speaker 1: he was always like even when he was when we
Speaker 1: had the Jimmy Spice record on my dad's Like, I mean,
Speaker 1: he was crazy, but he was always polite and just
Speaker 1: like you know, like Bill Cosby. I've seen some ship
Speaker 1: with Bill, Like you know what I mean, I ain't
Speaker 1: come on like Russell. Just Russell wasn't drug duging, like
Speaker 1: I don't see that, Like but Bill was slipping pills
Speaker 1: and she's like he got a little I ain't bills
Speaker 1: found Nick. I tell I'm just leave that alone. But so,
Speaker 1: but you have DAYD Gabriel Union. No, it wasn't Gabriel, No,
Speaker 1: it wasn't everybody. I know somebody and lacoln I was good.
Speaker 1: I was I'm going to live. Yeah, I thought it
Speaker 1: was both. No, no, God, it's just she's like a sister.
Speaker 1: She induced me later, that's art. She's a beautiful girl.
Speaker 1: How how does that happen? I mean, how didn't happen
Speaker 1: to me? He was pret this is pretty like TMZ
Speaker 1: days too. If you did eat you up in the
Speaker 1: TMZ days. No, they killed me, they killed you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they killed him out. That was like because I just
Speaker 1: got out of my marriage and it was like they
Speaker 1: called her a home record and ship like that, and
Speaker 1: it was just like, get out there. Yeah, she wasn't
Speaker 1: home record. That's just clear her the way you said.
Speaker 1: You gotta say it with more basic please all right? Cool,
Speaker 1: So making up you're cool, but you're still cool, man,
Speaker 1: very cool. She's cool with my ex wife. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: And at one point you left your wife and you
Speaker 1: um too. You took it down puffs like a maid
Speaker 1: or something like that. Right, you like, man, listen, But
Speaker 1: Stephen lived a life man in the same way I
Speaker 1: get rappers here and fair like you know, I listen
Speaker 1: listen as a married man. I admire when people were
Speaker 1: singing there days of being single and having fun because okay,
Speaker 1: don't worry. But you know that's kind I mean, the
Speaker 1: issue was, you know, I funked up. You know, oh shit,
Speaker 1: I didn't expect that. When I was single, I didn't
Speaker 1: have money. So you know, when these records started coming
Speaker 1: to check started coming, crazy ship change CEO checks is
Speaker 1: different talk. As I started with the BMG checks BMG,
Speaker 1: I just look at it. Let go. I just felt
Speaker 1: freaking like that we have used them because now now
Speaker 1: they believe you, right, because like now they didn't have
Speaker 1: a choice, they didn't have fucking I mean, now we
Speaker 1: just put them in the I mean it was just
Speaker 1: like they knew when I threw the chair, they knew
Speaker 1: I wasn't playing. Yeah. But but at one point, I
Speaker 1: remember fact Joe I said like, yo, man, I'm going
Speaker 1: on private jet with Steve River. And I was like,
Speaker 1: what the funk recently me back then, like I remember
Speaker 1: at one point you was taking private jet. So Quincy
Speaker 1: Jones termed me on to the pract of plants. I
Speaker 1: love how he his name dropped. Game is so nice,
Speaker 1: you know, Quincy Jones Jones, I was like, I goes
Speaker 1: a little bit, you know through the marketing company. I
Speaker 1: was in something Quincy's label in my mind. You you
Speaker 1: you're speaking to Quincy Jones. I was drinking a glass
Speaker 1: of wine and he said, what are you doing up
Speaker 1: commery show. No, this is imagining. I could me and
Speaker 1: my fiance, I'm talking about our wedding day and clost
Speaker 1: in the house called Rings and it's Quincy and I
Speaker 1: remember this like it was yesterday. He goes, hey, Steve,
Speaker 1: it's cute. I'm like, oh, he was cute. And I
Speaker 1: gotta and not an email. Brett Ratt and called me,
Speaker 1: who made the introduction, goes, Quincey is gonna be calling
Speaker 1: you man, name dropping, right, So Brett goes, Quincy is
Speaker 1: gonna be calling you just he want to talk to
Speaker 1: you help him consult his label. So he calls me
Speaker 1: and he goes, what are you doing tomorrow night? Like
Speaker 1: I don't know. He goes, have been with me. He goes,
Speaker 1: We're going to just place called Dre's. The finest women
Speaker 1: are finest women in l A would be there. Okay,
Speaker 1: I thought Dreves was in Vegas, but this, yeah, this
Speaker 1: is it was last thing and I gotta relaxed, and
Speaker 1: we just listened okay. So, um, I got me Quincy
Speaker 1: and it's like love at first sight, like then the woman.
Speaker 1: It's me and Quincy and like ten women, I mean,
Speaker 1: one more beautiful than the other. Because I want to
Speaker 1: bring you in as a consultant. He goes, what are
Speaker 1: you doing next Monday? Next Tuesday, and I said nothing,
Speaker 1: goes come to Chicago with me. I'm doing open and
Speaker 1: I'm showcasing my new brand new waters. To me, new
Speaker 1: brand of water, no new artists, okay, to me brand water. Okay. So, um,
Speaker 1: I end up in Chicago with Quincy. You have flu together. Yeah,
Speaker 1: on his plane to Chicago and I was like, just
Speaker 1: as you said, no more, no more American, I mean
Speaker 1: see you later. United took goodbye. So for two years,
Speaker 1: whenever wherever Quincy went, I went, and it was just well,
Speaker 1: so he taught me how to play with money. Wow,
Speaker 1: and that's where you private change. Yeah. So I was like, well,
Speaker 1: like I think when the Sony check came then I
Speaker 1: was like, funck y'all, this is that Joel's questions. Joel said, um,
Speaker 1: let me just pull up it's questions. So you know
Speaker 1: when I that's when I do interviews. He says, how
Speaker 1: much dough did he blow? And then how big of
Speaker 1: a deal did he do with Sony? Because that must
Speaker 1: have been your that must have been your fuck you moment.
Speaker 1: That was a real fuck you moment, fuck you moment.
Speaker 1: This makes a moist of I could imagine, Thank you Tommy,
Speaker 1: get him on drink champs too. So this is this
Speaker 1: is after whoop tang works, this after everybody works. Everybody works.
Speaker 1: Now you have a choice to go anywhere in the world.
Speaker 1: But because it isn't r c a um, wasn't that
Speaker 1: merged into the same Sony system? Not yet? Alright, So
Speaker 1: break so breaking down. So Jimmy Ivy was my mentor,
Speaker 1: and he's so and he's paying me a shipload of
Speaker 1: money to consult, to consult Jesus at least getting money
Speaker 1: for everywhere Steve. So all Jimmy Captain saying to me
Speaker 1: is fuck the bottom line and just think about the
Speaker 1: top line. Right. So Quincy told me about planes, Jimmy
Speaker 1: told me about the chef and the driver. Jesus, they
Speaker 1: teach you how living life. None of these type of friends.
Speaker 1: So did you have me? And you gotta make it develops.
Speaker 1: You gotta way better friends. And I'm just like g So,
Speaker 1: I have a meeting with Strauss ell Nic and Pete
Speaker 1: Jones Strasonic was the CEO and b MG and Pete
Speaker 1: Jones was send Um Distribution and they said, you know,
Speaker 1: we need more profits from you, and I said, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna do more profits. I'm I'm building these fucking artists.
Speaker 1: Fuck you like whatever happens happens. And the next day
Speaker 1: my locals, you know, they're willing to let you go.
Speaker 1: Who's what? Who's saying that when this you go? My
Speaker 1: attorney called me. He said, they're willing to let you go. Whoa.
Speaker 1: So it's Clyde Davis is free Grammy Part. I walk
Speaker 1: in there and it was like the red So you
Speaker 1: opened up like every like everybody just came at me.
Speaker 1: You know, Tommy this one, that one. And I didn't
Speaker 1: say a word you because I didn't even know, like
Speaker 1: because you're going too crazy for listeners. I mean say
Speaker 1: time you gotta say Tommy with Tommy say dull, you
Speaker 1: gotta say. They're just thinking like it's dolls from down
Speaker 1: to black and like the don't so to the university.
Speaker 1: Um So, every CEO of every music group is calling
Speaker 1: and they're kissing my ass during the whole fucking night, right,
Speaker 1: I didn't have a chance to tell my wife him.
Speaker 1: So she goes, what the fund is going on? I'm like,
Speaker 1: I said, I'll tell you when I get home. So
Speaker 1: I picked time because what they based on the meetings
Speaker 1: or no, So because you took everyone's meeting, I took
Speaker 1: everybody's meeting. Um, my first choice was really Jimmy, and
Speaker 1: but I don't know, something was up whatever. I think
Speaker 1: Jimmy was maybe redoing his deal or whatever. And I
Speaker 1: was like nah, and master P was really blowing up
Speaker 1: at that time. Priority Yeah, I mean he was just
Speaker 1: blowing I mean everything that he put out, I mean
Speaker 1: was going on planet. And I was like what, like,
Speaker 1: how the fun is he doing? I mean I know
Speaker 1: how he was doing it, but I wanted to see
Speaker 1: with my own eyes. So I went on a toy
Speaker 1: bus for six weeks, no by myself and I and
Speaker 1: I just did the South and just trying to get
Speaker 1: what are you trying to get a field of, like
Speaker 1: what the fund is really going? So three six Mafia
Speaker 1: was signed to Relativity and every and everybody everywhere that
Speaker 1: I went to was Alan Groenluck involved in that deal.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he was people's on Relativity to in the beginning. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I was. But everybody everywhere I went, everybody started
Speaker 1: talking about the next thing topop, this three six mafia.
Speaker 1: So when me and Tommy had a meeting, he was
Speaker 1: who do you want to be at Columbia Epic? I said,
Speaker 1: I want Relativity? Wow, and he looked at me like
Speaker 1: I was on crack. You wanted to acquire Relativity. So
Speaker 1: so we didn't acquire it, but we emerged. It was
Speaker 1: the first time got into music business where you being
Speaker 1: with Sony to do that move. I had lab right,
Speaker 1: so what b MG out? So now I want I
Speaker 1: emerge woud into Relativity. So now we're the third major.
Speaker 1: So that's how you suggested, okay now, and I didn't
Speaker 1: really was three six and you were one of the
Speaker 1: first labels too. Besides obviously priority of master p to
Speaker 1: see that future in the South. Yeah. Well he was
Speaker 1: the first one. He was the first one. God bless,
Speaker 1: Holy Moly Guacamoa. This is history right here, man, this
Speaker 1: is history. Sold. He emerged, we emerged, and then we
Speaker 1: had one amazing year and then it just became too
Speaker 1: corporate for me. Yeah, it was like quarterly numbers, this numbers,
Speaker 1: that numbers, and I was miserable. Wow, wow, so what
Speaker 1: that's that's when you so basically all right, so you're
Speaker 1: saying you sold the company. Basically, yeah, sold the company.
Speaker 1: And I had not worked for the company that I sold,
Speaker 1: and so like so Russell, like for instance, Russell, I
Speaker 1: think Russell had to do that with Deaf Well Russell's
Speaker 1: I mean stayed leg became the CEO of right, so
Speaker 1: and you hated it. You hated because of your face,
Speaker 1: trying to convince him and be like, no, don't say that,
Speaker 1: and he's not. So I remember going to Hawaii with
Speaker 1: my son and my wife and I said, I think
Speaker 1: I'm gonna send Time in with Toller back his money
Speaker 1: ship and I'm just gonna leave, right And I'm playing ball,
Speaker 1: and I see these big to samoans coming running to
Speaker 1: the courts were tribe was there, and nobody knew or
Speaker 1: I was except for my mother. Um, and I'm like
Speaker 1: something somebody died, right, And they said, you have an
Speaker 1: emergency on the mainland. So I called my office and
Speaker 1: they just sent me straight to rich Yeah, and Bridge
Speaker 1: said Punt had a heart attack or he's not dead yet,
Speaker 1: So I called Joe and just as I called Joe,
Speaker 1: he just passed. And in my mind I was retirement.
Speaker 1: I think I was going to move to Hawaii. And
Speaker 1: I just got back from the wife to say the
Speaker 1: two that's crazy. That's why this story is sucking me
Speaker 1: up in a different way. But I continue. So I am,
Speaker 1: I'm like, who knows? And Joe said nobody said, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna call Angie because you know she was part of
Speaker 1: terrof spot in a crazy Martine Andrew Martine. Yeah, Um,
Speaker 1: I called the Angie. I told him, and I just
Speaker 1: like the letter that I wrote Tommy, I ripped up,
Speaker 1: jumped on the plane, dropped everybody off in l A
Speaker 1: and I watched, you know, straight to New York. But
Speaker 1: I didn't retire, but so I stayed there another to
Speaker 1: three years. But and you know, speaking on that, you know,
Speaker 1: Punt was like our closest friend, was one of our
Speaker 1: best friends. Um, I mean, you guys had that amazing
Speaker 1: record together. Yeah we have, we have. Yeah, but guys
Speaker 1: that you came up video yeah yeah, yeah, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you so that thank you for because I was about
Speaker 1: to go, thank you, thank you, Steve. You know, I
Speaker 1: was about to go like, you know, depressing, Yeah, depressing,
Speaker 1: and he just let me tell you something about that video.
Speaker 1: The reason why you guys had a two hour overridge
Speaker 1: on the video is because you remember the guy jumps
Speaker 1: from the thing. You know, Punny really wanted to do that.
Speaker 1: So the whole time punts like one's like, I don't
Speaker 1: even know stunt man and he's got me over there.
Speaker 1: He's like, right, Nori, and I'm like, fun, you know,
Speaker 1: you don't want to say right, because I know my
Speaker 1: friend is over When you can't jump over the fucking building,
Speaker 1: you know what's up on the building? He jumps over,
Speaker 1: So they so they have a stunt man there to
Speaker 1: do it. And the stuntman is like a hundred pounds
Speaker 1: like and punts like he's not gonna look like me,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it, And he kept trying to say
Speaker 1: your Nori, tell him that I could do it, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, there's no way you're gonna give you. But
Speaker 1: that's the that was the craziest funny part. So if
Speaker 1: you ever remember you had guys that like two hours
Speaker 1: over it, because I was sitting there like, nah, man,
Speaker 1: I can't I can't allow you to do it Pump,
Speaker 1: but Pump was punting. Really. You know. The beautiful thing
Speaker 1: about Punt is being a celebrity. He loves being a celebrity.
Speaker 1: And he never felt big, like he moved like he
Speaker 1: was lighted in. Everyone in this place like, I kid
Speaker 1: you not okay, So I'll tell you a great story,
Speaker 1: please still not a players blowing up, blowing up. He
Speaker 1: comes back from you know, doing the show. He buys
Speaker 1: himself with the most beautiful Cuban link bracelet. That's a
Speaker 1: big punish it and I was like, wow, show money
Speaker 1: really must be mad. He said, this bracelets beautiful. Right.
Speaker 1: He goes if he goes, if we go platinum, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get you one. I go punt the shipping platinum. Right.
Speaker 1: He goes to me. I'm like, now we'll be at
Speaker 1: two million in a week, right, And I'm not thinking anything.
Speaker 1: So it's like, if we do four million, you know,
Speaker 1: you can get me something. And I'm working around, not
Speaker 1: even thinking. Cut to a year and a half day
Speaker 1: that we hit the four million rom that you know,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, and the guy don't even grow Hunter,
Speaker 1: who was our product manager, walks into my office. He goes,
Speaker 1: Punt wants to see you today, m to discuss the
Speaker 1: next album. So I'm like, all right, So I called Joe.
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, it's a cool pun wants to come in.
Speaker 1: He goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, comes in and I'm sucking
Speaker 1: around with him. I'm like, you know what, you gave
Speaker 1: me your word. You're gonna buy me a fucking Cuban
Speaker 1: link bracelet. You know when we went before me and
Speaker 1: we're at four point three and you don't have ship,
Speaker 1: I mean, I gave you my word reach just out
Speaker 1: of packet, goes fucking mother and he throws this box,
Speaker 1: you know, all all wrapped up with the most beautiful frame,
Speaker 1: like in a in a in a box with my
Speaker 1: name on it, all diamonds. Damn. It makes it looks
Speaker 1: so um, you know, not to like, you know, be
Speaker 1: all like you know, but from puning you have to
Speaker 1: speak about prodigy, Like where where was you at? You
Speaker 1: got dad news? I was here, My daughter was Miami,
Speaker 1: you say here before I was in four, I was
Speaker 1: in Florida, right, so yeah, my daughter was taking a
Speaker 1: road test complex and rich Eyes is kept on calling me,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, all right, something, I mean he's calling
Speaker 1: me like four times in a row. So it's the
Speaker 1: videos of bad news and I don't want to hear
Speaker 1: any thing until I see her. And he texted me,
Speaker 1: called me now urgent, Rich Rich, So I see my
Speaker 1: daughter coming in from taking her road tests and she passed.
Speaker 1: I'm like, now I'm on the phone with Rich. You guys,
Speaker 1: are you sitting down? I'm like, funk, what's just right?
Speaker 1: And I'm not sitting down. I go, what's the matter?
Speaker 1: He was? He died and she's walking in and I
Speaker 1: can't tell she passed and not passed. But I'm a
Speaker 1: sterical crying now and she passed. I couldn't really enjoy that,
Speaker 1: but it was just that was a hard one. Now
Speaker 1: I gotta be wound a little more. Apologies, but we're
Speaker 1: all on the subject. Now, your first group, your first sons,
Speaker 1: you like, you know, the first like you know child,
Speaker 1: it was like a Wu Tang clan. You know, you
Speaker 1: got cappadatta that went away or whatever. But the passing
Speaker 1: of od B comes home. He wasn't quite like Wu
Speaker 1: tan clan. When he came home. He was quite like
Speaker 1: like you would tell he was in like a confused state.
Speaker 1: And I want to say because I don't want to
Speaker 1: say he was Rockefeller or any of that. I just
Speaker 1: want to say that, you know, he just came home.
Speaker 1: He wanted to be in itself, but then he that
Speaker 1: he passes away, that has has to be there. So
Speaker 1: I'm flying. I'm flying to New York at m I
Speaker 1: land the second I put on my phone from the
Speaker 1: plane the way, I don't have LAD at the time anymore.
Speaker 1: Now I have SEC records, right, and a kind of
Speaker 1: is blowing the funk up at the same banners on it.
Speaker 1: It's locked up. So the vine calls wan and too
Speaker 1: dirty just past twenty minutes ago, my gel, he says,
Speaker 1: the studio. So I just went straight to the stud
Speaker 1: you his body was still that god damn like you know,
Speaker 1: um for people like who's CEOs, for people who's rappers,
Speaker 1: and people are just human beings like because you you
Speaker 1: you attached to this is not like you. You're not
Speaker 1: You're not one of those. I'm not comment with Toller.
Speaker 1: I'm not dug monst. I mean, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: you know without saying that, let me because you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes the audience might not understand that what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is you're human, like like you're a person that's involved,
Speaker 1: like you're not You're not looking at a person like
Speaker 1: there's numbers. So dealing with that, like how do you
Speaker 1: cope every day? Like like you know what I mean
Speaker 1: because I can imagine your artists, was your friends as well.
Speaker 1: I mean all of it really just just I mean,
Speaker 1: it takes and then you know, um, you know, dealing
Speaker 1: with the Punt that stayed and you know, you know unifact,
Speaker 1: Joe was one of my best friends and you know,
Speaker 1: like how did that just feel? Like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like saying, well, Punt was signed to Joe,
Speaker 1: so I never me and Punt had a relationship, but
Speaker 1: all business stuff. I dealt with Joe on the attorneys right,
Speaker 1: so you know. And the thing is, Joe gets a
Speaker 1: bad rap, you know for what people say, you know
Speaker 1: what you did with Punt, but it's really not true.
Speaker 1: But that's real ship. So I mean he treated Punk
Speaker 1: like a brother. I know, true Punk got everything that
Speaker 1: he deserved. Yeah I know that, I know that, but
Speaker 1: when I when I say it makes me feel like
Speaker 1: it just because you know, brother, Yeah, like I'm buying
Speaker 1: So that's why you I mean that was him, like
Speaker 1: you know, he said that you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But Steve Man, I just want to um, I just
Speaker 1: want to reiterate you know how great you are Man.
Speaker 1: I appreciate UM. I know you for years and whenever
Speaker 1: I had one of your artists on the record, or
Speaker 1: whenever UM your artists, I've seen see you an out
Speaker 1: and dinner, it's just Steve always he's the greatest places
Speaker 1: in the world. You know what I'm saying. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I see you and you always kept your word,
Speaker 1: and I just want to salute you for that. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I want to salute you back
Speaker 1: when you was the when you was like you know,
Speaker 1: coming up in the game to the biggest in the game,
Speaker 1: to still like just maintain that your your your your bigness.
Speaker 1: He was always has been a person of your world.
Speaker 1: So now what is it? We got the concert? What
Speaker 1: is the next? And we can understand you're managing DMX
Speaker 1: as First of all, how is dm Max? He's good?
Speaker 1: He's good, He's good? Is he is? He okay? And
Speaker 1: he's on def JAM right, he's on def JAM. That's
Speaker 1: the beautiful thing that makes me d back. He's what
Speaker 1: depth jam? Um? I hear other podcasts critique you, and
Speaker 1: I hear other podcasts like, you know, actually diss you,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna just tell you something there. I disagree
Speaker 1: with those podcasts in totality. The fact that you guys
Speaker 1: Dot L L cool J and d M Mex back
Speaker 1: on your roster. To me, that's kind of like dope,
Speaker 1: Like that's like loud starting to get with utank Klan.
Speaker 1: I would love that Paul's at the realm of so
Speaker 1: Paul at is that the real richest number two Paul, right,
Speaker 1: so pick him up. Even though I heard he's not
Speaker 1: fans of us, It's okay, really not in a bad way,
Speaker 1: not in a bad way. He just you know, he
Speaker 1: just don't want him to come on because we're smoking. Guy,
Speaker 1: Look Steve didn't smoking get high. We're having a great interview,
Speaker 1: a great example. I got a lot of He did
Speaker 1: not hate on us. I just heard he just you know,
Speaker 1: did block us. Okay, But Paul's a real hip hop
Speaker 1: pet guys back in the day, scam the guy he
Speaker 1: was just fall I respect to the fullest and then
Speaker 1: rich you know the pedigree. You know, it's like we
Speaker 1: both learned from my dad, right, so you know, even
Speaker 1: though you know he has thought Rich was Jonathan. Did
Speaker 1: you know the crazy ship? And I always thought Jonathan
Speaker 1: was Rich. That's the crazy thing. I was like Rich.
Speaker 1: So we all grew up around the corner from each other.
Speaker 1: This is Manhattan. No, this is a long hour. What
Speaker 1: part America? Listen to Merrick people? If you're American, y'all
Speaker 1: broken up? Yeah. So it's like we always had, you know,
Speaker 1: the dream, like all right, well all of it. You know.
Speaker 1: Rich was a lawyer by trade, went to law school,
Speaker 1: went to Ivy League school. Jonathan went to the University
Speaker 1: of Maryland. And it was always our dream to just
Speaker 1: always work together, like rock and Fellow, like like all
Speaker 1: these these great record labels. You are you a fan
Speaker 1: of these new record labels. I'm a fan of my
Speaker 1: son's new label. Oh what is that? My son has
Speaker 1: a jail through Atlantic quote chose chosen and and what's
Speaker 1: what think? His name is Alex, Alex Alex Ricky So
Speaker 1: and how he's doing it. He's taking a mixture of
Speaker 1: what's going on today, you know, digitally and then um
Speaker 1: my blueprint on how I did it. He's just signed
Speaker 1: al d Bastards. He just signed his kid out of Detroit, okay,
Speaker 1: which reminds you of an MP. You know, like he's
Speaker 1: on the road now, so it's like he's doing that.
Speaker 1: But then who like have conversations with SoundCloud, right that
Speaker 1: conversations with Spotify. But he's on the road, like he's
Speaker 1: living on the road away, I was living on the road.
Speaker 1: So the advice, so he did it at all. No,
Speaker 1: So he's a ballplayer. He played college ball, he played
Speaker 1: D one ball, everything, so he's taken. He took that
Speaker 1: work ethic, that's all. He took that work echic, work
Speaker 1: ethic and and put it to you know, like with
Speaker 1: somebody on his team was like a producer. You guys,
Speaker 1: you know this kid has incredible beats. Just that whatever, right,
Speaker 1: And the smoke is not that's okay me like and
Speaker 1: it was like it's not him, it's a smoke from
Speaker 1: from lost so he um, you know. So I'm really
Speaker 1: like he took his basketball work ethic or a sports
Speaker 1: work ethic and and just like like he you know,
Speaker 1: when we announced the show, you just like hate dad.
Speaker 1: It would be nice if his new artists was actually bubbling,
Speaker 1: not to get out of Detroit, but the Southern Cadet
Speaker 1: in Sia. Can you open it? Can he be the
Speaker 1: first one to open up to show? Yeah, of course,
Speaker 1: you know so New Yorker Radio City Music Hall. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a great fucking opportunity. So but I'm really
Speaker 1: proud of what he's doing. And then you know, my
Speaker 1: youngest son, it's a rapper ballplayer. So he made a record. Um,
Speaker 1: he's gonna company when he sees this. But it was like,
Speaker 1: the kid can really fucking spit because why they don't
Speaker 1: They don't want to. Now he's still in high school.
Speaker 1: Like you know, his team is like top five in
Speaker 1: the country. Brianie's on his teams. He waits on it,
Speaker 1: you know. So it's like, because you ever heard of
Speaker 1: Rapper Russ had a rap a rapper rust and Rapper
Speaker 1: Russ got on him and he was because people his
Speaker 1: father was in the industry, so they called him my
Speaker 1: industry plan and he hated that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: He hated that. So you think your kids would think
Speaker 1: that that's not My kids are on nothing to do it,
Speaker 1: like they're doing it all Like like I had ton
Speaker 1: of idea. Like when Ryan did this record and he
Speaker 1: did it with three of his friends, Alex called me
Speaker 1: because you hear the record. I'm like, what record? He goes,
Speaker 1: Ryan did the record this? And he goes, it's fire,
Speaker 1: sends me to record and I was like, holy ship,
Speaker 1: like the kids are like he I called him like
Speaker 1: Ryan who wrote? He goes either so you speak? Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: come on, let's get let's get a seat for John. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's call Mr Leasey did you won? What about us?
Speaker 1: I think that's soon. Yeah, that's my older son. Cool.
Speaker 1: Do you mean the mike? Let's get him on min Yeah, Jonathan.
Speaker 1: You know there's a little shot where's Brandy ready left.
Speaker 1: He's land though, he's getting he's getting a signature, getting
Speaker 1: you're gonna happen. Randy might as one join come on.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this me and man,
Speaker 1: he would nes that's just camera hole. If we put
Speaker 1: him here this' that's too much guy. Yeah, it'll be
Speaker 1: all behind the scenes. Guys, that's what he says. That's
Speaker 1: the se guy that's in the sea. Nothing everybody not there.
Speaker 1: Let's make it work so he's comfortable when we can
Speaker 1: all look at each other's face. Oh damn, you just
Speaker 1: destroyed equipment. Actually, thanks, so leave didn't make sure that's
Speaker 1: a rock shine and to do stay too that we
Speaker 1: go because I've been getting pressure like like unbelievably like
Speaker 1: one more. Okay, man, don't taking this blind. Come on,
Speaker 1: come on, you're a legend, John, you gotta do it.
Speaker 1: Come on, you gotta be a head to come on
Speaker 1: the all a legend. Let's do it. I should have
Speaker 1: to drink on drink, Champs. You should have a drink
Speaker 1: to drink. Come drinks. All right, let's go have a shot.
Speaker 1: Ye I don't really small every more of a drink
Speaker 1: that I'm not gonna lie. I'm still with little Wayne. Yeah,
Speaker 1: bumble bumbo. I had a great sleep this morning, but
Speaker 1: I did not diet at all. I woke up and
Speaker 1: I eat like a motherfucking motherfucker. And I've been eating
Speaker 1: for two weeks. And I've been up the white where
Speaker 1: you said there I was. I didn't not me, bro,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna because I've been. I've been. I've been
Speaker 1: the only thing you've been taking here, you know, I've
Speaker 1: been everywhere. The only place that I fucking I didn't
Speaker 1: enjoy was Hanno Lulu Bit because I went out there
Speaker 1: as I was performing. So I promised myself about to
Speaker 1: go back there, um, and I didn't. I played myself,
Speaker 1: so I gotta go back to honolulple. But mommy is
Speaker 1: my favorite. Yo, all eyes because you know I could
Speaker 1: bring my friends that you know on the run, you know,
Speaker 1: because I said that they can still go. Yeah, come on,
Speaker 1: we come. He's doing he's doing, Pie says, okay, free
Speaker 1: way for Usually we just go without what I've read it.
Speaker 1: I want this industry, talk on this industry. I want
Speaker 1: to be because e FN was the street team that
Speaker 1: you hire. That's here was our Miami guy. Yep, that's hard,
Speaker 1: that's hard. Did we high us? I'll tell you right now,
Speaker 1: trust me, he has at Okay, look he knows, he
Speaker 1: knows who it is. Watch this, he knows everything about it.
Speaker 1: Let's go. If wed be people Randy hand and we
Speaker 1: want John the motherfucker perfect of the hand. Are you
Speaker 1: tell you what? You're ready? You got something? You want
Speaker 1: some cheese? I got some mac chees coming to all right,
Speaker 1: We're ready. We're back, motherfucking drink chap listen, so listen,
Speaker 1: so listen. We just broke in. Oh god day. I
Speaker 1: love Boris sometimes some talk bos sometimes I love most
Speaker 1: of this. But we got motherfucking Randy Acker here, we
Speaker 1: got motherfucking Jonathan Rifkin here, and we got motherfucker's Steve
Speaker 1: Ripping here. These are the behind the scenes, are behind
Speaker 1: the scenes. So this is just I would like the
Speaker 1: call of people. This is a pure game right now?
Speaker 1: Do you understand pure game? Do you remember how louds run?
Speaker 1: And where were you out there when loud was just DESTROYINGO?
Speaker 1: Was you the opposite side? I don't know if I
Speaker 1: was the opposite side. I feel like I was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: before I was even in hip hop, I lived across
Speaker 1: the hall from Steve on Street when I was working
Speaker 1: at SPK Records with p Cave and Allies and Wilson
Speaker 1: Phillips and teenage meeting Ninja Turtsy whoa wild pitch Pendulum
Speaker 1: Records at them across the hall from Steve. That's where
Speaker 1: I'm main sort. Yea, yeah, jeez, Louise, Papa, jeez. So
Speaker 1: how y'all said, Yea, y'all didn't know that y'all was
Speaker 1: both in the music industry. We knew we did, but
Speaker 1: I really wasn't in his part of the business. Then.
Speaker 1: I was in e M. I I was in business affairs.
Speaker 1: I wasn't in Hippop, not until I got into death
Speaker 1: jam that. So he was on the appreciation for what
Speaker 1: he really had done. Right, So you used on the
Speaker 1: lawyer side at the time. We had literally each other, yes, okay,
Speaker 1: and you were and you knew it was popping. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was. He was the guy I knew that. I
Speaker 1: just wasn't in it. I knew who he was for sure.
Speaker 1: So jeer, when was the first time you met Chris Lady?
Speaker 1: The first time at Chris Lady? Wow, UM had to
Speaker 1: be at seven forty one Broadway, eight forty Broadway, Um,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's the first first office UM in New York.
Speaker 1: And I think I met him with with I want
Speaker 1: to say, Peter Thomas. They were both how could I
Speaker 1: be down? I think they were both. They were both
Speaker 1: it's some way, shape or form. They were both working
Speaker 1: with Deft Jam and they were and they were they
Speaker 1: were up to the office. I don't know if they
Speaker 1: were together, but they were. I mean they were friends
Speaker 1: and Chris was, as you know, a great friend of mine.
Speaker 1: I was going to actually the same question. Two were
Speaker 1: the first time you met Chris Lady? And then I
Speaker 1: would just see Chris everywhere. Um shot can introduced me
Speaker 1: to Chris Flavor Unit Flavor. We're at it. You don't remember, Yeah,
Speaker 1: my office, you know, like wow, you know like and
Speaker 1: then um we just developed for relationship. Was he the
Speaker 1: one who broke Deep? Wow? So he wasn't managing Mam
Speaker 1: Deep a woman by name of Tammy. I forget how
Speaker 1: last name brought me. Had you even heard that first
Speaker 1: album they did? The premier was Executive? Yeah, from the
Speaker 1: back Yeah, and hasn't heard that in spof that's a
Speaker 1: hold on this story. When did you first meet Chris Lady?
Speaker 1: I met Chris Lady won sixty Barracks sheet was six. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is death jam. The first Deep Tong King is
Speaker 1: across the street, and the next building across the street.
Speaker 1: That's probably like the ist like at that point the
Speaker 1: Arab that it was, it was bananas because Simmons I
Speaker 1: managed everybody, because Russell Management was in there as well.
Speaker 1: At that point, Violator had their label deal there. So
Speaker 1: Chris was in the bats watch the department. But the
Speaker 1: whole building was just out of control. I mean when
Speaker 1: I'm really really I had met Chris, but he got
Speaker 1: into an altercation with one of the artists. He was
Speaker 1: mistaken for being an artist brother, and it was that
Speaker 1: was like not the first day I met him, but uh,
Speaker 1: it had started to develop a relationship after that, like
Speaker 1: we had talked, we know each other, but um, you
Speaker 1: know because I had ended up working with X, which
Speaker 1: was very strange because I was a lawyer at def
Speaker 1: JAM and then somehow, I don't know, I guess when
Speaker 1: you're in a small company and it's exploding, it's all
Speaker 1: you know, everybody does whatever needs to happen. At that point,
Speaker 1: EARV had to kind of, you know, go be with
Speaker 1: job a little more and there's no one really be
Speaker 1: with X. And they were like, oh actor, you know
Speaker 1: the rough Riders. And I had no idea, but I
Speaker 1: just wet as this wet Chris was like he he's
Speaker 1: very mentoring, like he always was like very warm and
Speaker 1: welcoming and opening and wanted to share game with me
Speaker 1: and with other people not just me. I mean I
Speaker 1: just found him to be like that, alight. So so
Speaker 1: so before we get crazy, UM, I still don't believe
Speaker 1: Chris killed this though. I just need your your opinion.
Speaker 1: What do you think? I mean, I know how much
Speaker 1: he loved those kids, right, yes, So, I mean we
Speaker 1: all have kids, and I just no matter how down
Speaker 1: you know, I could be, I mean I wouldn't. I mean,
Speaker 1: his kids were in his life. So so basically you're
Speaker 1: saying you're with me. You don't believe me killed though
Speaker 1: you think it's a conspiracy theory something where I spoke
Speaker 1: to him that that what the day that he's supposed
Speaker 1: to kill hisself. Okay, you know what it was? I
Speaker 1: needed fifty for something, Yeah, okay, I think all right, so, um,
Speaker 1: these boxing promoters wanted to have a Floyd member the
Speaker 1: fight in the body and it would have been the
Speaker 1: biggest fight in the history of fights. Okay, and I
Speaker 1: needed fifty to get the Floyd. Wow. Sure, And you
Speaker 1: spoke to Chris that day. All right, Now, I've never
Speaker 1: heard this story. This is me, this is this is
Speaker 1: not even for me. This is me personally. He sounded
Speaker 1: like he was going to kill himself. Now he sounded
Speaker 1: like he was bad that then. I've never heard the stories.
Speaker 1: So this is you know that we had our laugh
Speaker 1: you guys, is that money to be made. I'm like,
Speaker 1: Chris would make my money on this one shot that
Speaker 1: we'll have to make it. Our lives because I just want,
Speaker 1: you know, to people to know that I've been saying
Speaker 1: this this. You know, I've been through doing this for
Speaker 1: four years consistently, we've been saying that. I've always said
Speaker 1: that I've never never believed that. Yet you know, I'm
Speaker 1: glad that you know you didn't even know that and
Speaker 1: you're you're giving your side of the story, and that's
Speaker 1: something awesome for me. Man, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But but but in that note, we talked about Big Pun,
Speaker 1: we talked about Prodigy, we talked about where don't you
Speaker 1: gonna say something about jay Z? So that we're coming
Speaker 1: back to that. But I just wanted for our fallen
Speaker 1: shoulders everyone that we just talked from, everybody from louds
Speaker 1: and everyone. We're gonna take a shot for them. Man,
Speaker 1: solo solo solo solo solo, and this is how do we?
Speaker 1: How do we wait? No more pronounced this boom combire.
Speaker 1: I got two great press stories, so you met Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: you want to go to press story because I got
Speaker 1: some car gate ship. I want to hit you with
Speaker 1: it because no, I didn't. I didn't manage kind of
Speaker 1: he was around him during the Make America had great
Speaker 1: wasn't something with merge. No, No, it ran like, oh
Speaker 1: that's right, but it was all because I don't know you,
Speaker 1: was you I'm not gonna make America great. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: make America great, but in my way, yes, yes, it's
Speaker 1: not maga exactly. I'm gonna tell you something about Kanye.
Speaker 1: I love him like a son. I love him like
Speaker 1: that's all. I want him to dispute my sneakers and
Speaker 1: they can only call me back. I mean, I don't know. Look,
Speaker 1: I want you to dispute my kid. He has a
Speaker 1: he has a heart of goal, and Kanye when he
Speaker 1: was wearing that, he doesn't want to be dictated to saying, hey,
Speaker 1: you gotta vote for Bob, you gott you know. So
Speaker 1: it's like he's his own man, so and he wants
Speaker 1: to make his choice. So whatever he says sometimes it's
Speaker 1: just it comes out of his heart the way he
Speaker 1: doesn't like. All right, let me bring it back and
Speaker 1: let let me say this movie. This guy has passion
Speaker 1: like this no tomorrow. When me and him when our
Speaker 1: on different way, like and it was neutral, he goes,
Speaker 1: I want to take care of you for two years.
Speaker 1: Don't have to do that, like forty hours later, you know,
Speaker 1: like a severance package type of thick. Yeah, and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: just I'm here for you, just you know, whatever, whatever
Speaker 1: it is. Um. So when he wore the hat, I
Speaker 1: don't think he was doing it because he loves Trump
Speaker 1: so much. Because you remember the first picture it was
Speaker 1: it was him Lee or I took the picture, you know,
Speaker 1: Lucy and that's the guy from university. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: So did you know how this pictures are gonna go crazy? No?
Speaker 1: I wasn't even paying attention to the fucking act, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: So because he didn't see that use the shirt that
Speaker 1: he walked with free Laddy hoop, damn me, nobody saw that.
Speaker 1: No one's sold. Wow, that's you know cool. We have
Speaker 1: to put that picture up again. Even that out real quick,
Speaker 1: right yeah, okay, continue. So, I mean I think Kinnie
Speaker 1: doesn't want to make American read again, but his way,
Speaker 1: which you know, if he wants it to be a
Speaker 1: free America, right he you know, So it's not like
Speaker 1: I'm fort Trump. I mean, Trump just had that hat.
Speaker 1: I think Kindie is like, all right, let's your own mind.
Speaker 1: You can speak whatever the fun you want without worried
Speaker 1: like so outrage culture. Ship is going crazy like so
Speaker 1: that's really what it was. But the two years that
Speaker 1: we were together, I mean they were I mean I
Speaker 1: worked for so you wasn't almost that ship. Naomi was Yomi.
Speaker 1: Naomi wasn't wyoming for the album listing for the one
Speaker 1: just I would. It's not cool with me. I was
Speaker 1: not comfortable. So while so the first time was I
Speaker 1: think in Jackson right where we had the the album.
Speaker 1: I like the fourth season, whatever, the four that's the
Speaker 1: only And then around three months ago he called. He goes,
Speaker 1: if I send you a plane, it's not to send
Speaker 1: me send you a plane. Yeah, if I send you
Speaker 1: a plane, can you come see me. I need to
Speaker 1: talk to you. Okay, it doesn't tell you where not
Speaker 1: with him? So UM sent me the plane. We had
Speaker 1: our lunch, we had on meeting, we spent the night,
Speaker 1: and I flew back the next morning. But he really is.
Speaker 1: He's an amazing father. It's amazing. I think he's a genius.
Speaker 1: There's no let me tell you something. I went on
Speaker 1: Nick Cannon's show, right asked me about the album, and
Speaker 1: I can't like the album. I liked it, but you
Speaker 1: like it and you just you just feed me the
Speaker 1: whole time. No, like so, like I just said I
Speaker 1: didn't like the album. So people thought that like I
Speaker 1: was like being malicious about this kid. I didn't say
Speaker 1: that at all. I didn't giving your honest why are
Speaker 1: you in that's this argument? Your opinion? You could have
Speaker 1: said I didn't like him, like it was something personal
Speaker 1: for us, like Kanye his first daughter, his name, her
Speaker 1: nickname is Nori, Like why would I ever like disrespect?
Speaker 1: But I just gave my honest opinion, like I'm honored.
Speaker 1: Like the first time I met Kim Kardashian, Kevin kr Um,
Speaker 1: Kanye grab kicking on that Shi and walked to old
Speaker 1: over to me and said, this is who we named after, Nori.
Speaker 1: This is Nori I. This is real ship. Like this
Speaker 1: is on the E Hollywood channel. They blocked my face
Speaker 1: out because I ain't signing off, But you didn't get
Speaker 1: about I was just I was just throwing off. I
Speaker 1: was like, what the fun is going on? I didn't
Speaker 1: know you know what I mean? So like like it
Speaker 1: was like yeah, like they when they even just in
Speaker 1: the job doc, I was like, watched on y'all is
Speaker 1: one of the phone. But you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: but what I'm gonna say is like I didn't mean
Speaker 1: it to be malicious when I said that, I just
Speaker 1: disliked you just kick because I'm thinking this is a
Speaker 1: superior Rapp album when this kind of was a goschool album,
Speaker 1: and that's cool. That's cool. If I was talking there
Speaker 1: and they just took that line and just ran whateverything
Speaker 1: they never but happening. I was the other ninty nine
Speaker 1: episodes and Drink Chance. But I'm saying college drop out
Speaker 1: when I'm saying Kanye is a you know, I said
Speaker 1: I vote for Kanye for president. They just took it.
Speaker 1: They just took that one sound bite. And I didn't
Speaker 1: mind because I seen beauty what's my man's name, um
Speaker 1: a Car's brother. I've seen people and I was I
Speaker 1: was like, what's up and he was like what's up?
Speaker 1: He said what's up? I was like, tell Kryea one
Speaker 1: who on one drink Chance? And he looked at me like,
Speaker 1: you know you don't want car And I'm looking like,
Speaker 1: because this is this is technically I was having a
Speaker 1: conversation like we're not nothing's coming out of our mouths.
Speaker 1: Like I said, yo to Kanye at one more. He
Speaker 1: looked at me like in our mind stopped talking. He said,
Speaker 1: you don't I said, I'm and he's looking at He's like, no,
Speaker 1: I heard what you said. One statement. This is in
Speaker 1: our minds. I don't even know what this really So
Speaker 1: you don't have the seen Watson Homes. I went to ball.
Speaker 1: Watching homes is a nobody knows what watching the homes
Speaker 1: please pull it up, damn homes. I watched all though,
Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, I watch all the
Speaker 1: white movies, the white dumb movies, like like you know,
Speaker 1: the dumb and dumb mors. White watch it and watching.
Speaker 1: You don't know what I'm talking about. Now it's hum Yeah, yea,
Speaker 1: that ship is hilarious. I'm sorry I went too far.
Speaker 1: I went to so now Loud motherfucking Records. This motherfucking thing.
Speaker 1: You've been to, the bad Boy thing, it's this Loud Records.
Speaker 1: A tour Randy Actor. This is a tour. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean just that show he's doing. If you look
Speaker 1: down the listures bestally want to get to say a
Speaker 1: couple of prodsy verses. I think this is a toll
Speaker 1: tour with drink Champs a tax to it. I've heard
Speaker 1: that it's right because I'm looking at the flies. There's
Speaker 1: no host to the drowning out the motherfucker, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Any kind what all my kids? Jonathan
Speaker 1: said he should take drink Champs on the road with
Speaker 1: the loud toll. We are together like we've been fits back.
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you know. The crazy thing is
Speaker 1: one of my best friends, one of my great friends.
Speaker 1: It's Bust the Rhunds, right, and I funk with him
Speaker 1: every leg two or three months, right, Like somebody would
Speaker 1: ask me like the biggest bag where they be like
Speaker 1: if you think Buster would take it? And I always
Speaker 1: funk a Buster because I know he's never wanted to
Speaker 1: do it. You know, I just trying to manage coom
Speaker 1: bust me. Let me just say something, my Buster, if
Speaker 1: you want to be funny, this is my brother list.
Speaker 1: This is the funniest joke. I won't deal with numbers,
Speaker 1: but let's just say this is the number Buster one. Right,
Speaker 1: you would give Buster to that same number plus a
Speaker 1: little something. But if you say it's an old school
Speaker 1: show you want to I don't know if it cool
Speaker 1: on the fund. I just sat you bring us to
Speaker 1: the the same bag. Baby one might be a little bigger,
Speaker 1: but Buster feels like, nah, I'm not old school, so
Speaker 1: I never have to do an old school show. And
Speaker 1: that is the most honorable thing that I can tell you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna dude, like, that's honorable because me, I don't
Speaker 1: want to give a fuck. Old schools above the thirty
Speaker 1: called me old nigger basic and take two. I was
Speaker 1: there with that generation because I'm in the empty light
Speaker 1: of them. I don't get but listen, lem tate some
Speaker 1: of Bustter runs bro I've tried, And then for three
Speaker 1: years after I tried, I just funk with him, like
Speaker 1: if I ever bring him my offer, you just be
Speaker 1: looking at it like I know this somewhere that's old school,
Speaker 1: and listen, I'm gonna be honest. At first, I was like,
Speaker 1: you know's just crazy, But now like late years later,
Speaker 1: I realized, and I was because integrity. I respect his
Speaker 1: morals and I respect his stands. He is as a
Speaker 1: brother that's been in the hip hop logan all of
Speaker 1: us probably, But guess what if he wants to take
Speaker 1: that stands up he's in the middle of He's a genie.
Speaker 1: I have to respect him. He's a motherfucking genie in
Speaker 1: my hid speak, the bust of rockers on the floor
Speaker 1: on the phone, his ship is, he's just floating in there.
Speaker 1: He's just in there like he's a genie, and I
Speaker 1: respect him. He's my brother. So the first record I
Speaker 1: ever posted through the Street Team, like when I came
Speaker 1: at the Hunter party, was he just under the schools
Speaker 1: the PTN. It's just another case of yeah, don't anybody
Speaker 1: nobody's sick to look? What the fuck? Yeah, that's you know,
Speaker 1: you impress that record. Amazing record that record and Red
Speaker 1: Nubian slowed Down. Yeah so you did that. No, that
Speaker 1: was on electric. But those are the two first two
Speaker 1: records that I promoted it through, but through the efficient
Speaker 1: Street Team. Yet, do you think there's anything that you
Speaker 1: guys were doing in the Street Team era, like the
Speaker 1: physical Street Team era, that couldn't be applied today. I
Speaker 1: think you need both today, I really do. I mean
Speaker 1: to me, it's like when I go into a market,
Speaker 1: I'm going to a Walmart still and just hearing what
Speaker 1: people are talking at twelve one o'clock in the morn
Speaker 1: so and that was my thing. Listen, my father had
Speaker 1: one of the most successful labels. We didn't grow up
Speaker 1: on the street, right, so I always had to figure
Speaker 1: out what that advantage was for me. So when I
Speaker 1: put the street team together and we started making some noise.
Speaker 1: Now my wife and kids live in l A. But
Speaker 1: I was still spent one weekend night in a month here.
Speaker 1: So I would start off that um king plasm mall
Speaker 1: and go with one of the stores and just hang
Speaker 1: out and hear what the kids were saying. King's Plot
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn. Yeah okay. Then I ended up a few
Speaker 1: hours later Dr Jason thirty fourth Street and just I
Speaker 1: got to one of my best friends on training camp,
Speaker 1: Reme do you go sneak a store? And that's a
Speaker 1: great workers right, so you know, and I would I
Speaker 1: would end up working at training Camp like behind the
Speaker 1: kind of just hearing what you know, what this saying,
Speaker 1: and then I would end up at a place called
Speaker 1: DJ's in Washington Heights on and that would be my Saturday.
Speaker 1: I ain't a lot You sound like a cocaine dealer
Speaker 1: was so street, but I so I always came back
Speaker 1: to just like I always I'm a little competitive. So
Speaker 1: I had an up you know, m like, hey, you
Speaker 1: know about this you know, and they're looking at me like,
Speaker 1: how the fund is you? Knowing all this ship? But
Speaker 1: to be that one Saturday a month where I would
Speaker 1: start off in Brooklyn and up in Westernton nights, Now,
Speaker 1: how problem was it? Like? Because dead Press? Right, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be honest, when you listen to dead Press lyrics, right,
Speaker 1: it's probably the most anti white lyrics that can probably be.
Speaker 1: How do you remove yourself from that? Like, you know,
Speaker 1: our fan of dead Press, that's hard. I didn't imagine
Speaker 1: that what I'm Florida, that's family and that's that's what
Speaker 1: of those people don't what I'm saying this like, how
Speaker 1: could you like because I always imagine, like you know,
Speaker 1: when I hear the public Enemy, and I realized that
Speaker 1: people that's pushing in Public Enemy was Leo cons and
Speaker 1: things like that, but I hadn't learned that later. And
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is like when you hear dead Press,
Speaker 1: there they they're just the most pro black Is people
Speaker 1: ever And you guys signed them all their music records
Speaker 1: speak the records were and you know what, at the
Speaker 1: end of the day there before me, right, But I
Speaker 1: could look at myself in the barr that I know
Speaker 1: I did right by them, right and whatever their belief saw,
Speaker 1: their belief saw do. I wish there was more of
Speaker 1: a trust because I wasn't the Antichrist, right if there
Speaker 1: wasn't real question other way, me and my pad, the
Speaker 1: way me and who had, the way Joe fun had,
Speaker 1: they might have been the biggest group I had. But
Speaker 1: prior to you even signing them, their ideology and their
Speaker 1: beliefs towards a certain group of people were that. It
Speaker 1: wasn't like they signed and then became that they were there.
Speaker 1: They were that from the from the get go. Jam Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he brought them to me and you knew what Jaman. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean that's that's that's that's it. That's ill,
Speaker 1: that's it. And so so I like even like didn't
Speaker 1: you work with Public Enemy? I did my first project
Speaker 1: when I walked in the door to works Public Enemy
Speaker 1: and he was at at some of the messages, so
Speaker 1: like like so how is that just like that like
Speaker 1: like help me like described like you know, because I
Speaker 1: mentioned like people you know, you guys are saying the
Speaker 1: people are they're saying it's not me, but they're still saying,
Speaker 1: like you know, it was a little tricky for me
Speaker 1: because I came in as the young lawyer and they
Speaker 1: were making a movie soundtrack with Spike Lee, who's also
Speaker 1: pretty confident. The right day, No, it was he got
Speaker 1: game and we did the soundtrack. So I had to
Speaker 1: get in and figure out all the deals. So I
Speaker 1: had to do a phone call with Chuck and Spike.
Speaker 1: You know, Spikes a legend, truck, a lawyer, you could
Speaker 1: have been whatever you doing. They went right into share
Speaker 1: croppers and the field of copyright and were stealing our stuff.
Speaker 1: And YO, tell that New York like it just went
Speaker 1: left right away. But you know, I tried to be
Speaker 1: you know, consilivatory. My job was just to get the
Speaker 1: deals done, what producers, records got to come out. So
Speaker 1: I just kind of took it. I wasn't going to
Speaker 1: get into the conversation of because I didn't even understand
Speaker 1: it at that point. It took a while to kind
Speaker 1: of understand that the subculture is a lot of the
Speaker 1: you know kind of things that dead Press would talk
Speaker 1: about or the five percenters that what Time would talk about.
Speaker 1: Like that job is to push that envelope and push
Speaker 1: that art form to the fringes, and that it is
Speaker 1: what it is. You know. The Dead Press came in
Speaker 1: with some tea shirts one day. I was like, can
Speaker 1: I have one? Give me ten bucks? I don't know
Speaker 1: if I was expect it's kind of they they didn't
Speaker 1: back down, right, So I did respect, right, and I
Speaker 1: gave him the time box. It wasn't where I wasn't
Speaker 1: where I paid for the shirt. It wasn't like, hey,
Speaker 1: I paid for you know. And I always looked at
Speaker 1: as like I'm not that I am. But it was
Speaker 1: like a situation we never had it. We never always polite,
Speaker 1: you know, like you never people. Yeah, I ran to
Speaker 1: stick yeah yeah right on the plane, yeah from here,
Speaker 1: from Atlantity here actually right, and we spoke you know
Speaker 1: for a two hours. I mean it was amazing. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm one, you know, called you know, to get this
Speaker 1: thing done. You know, it's like I really want to
Speaker 1: be it. So still I respect that. I respect that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like I was, I respected.
Speaker 1: Whatever happened. You're not gonna know this, but me and
Speaker 1: my boy Eddie, he's here. We worked the Loud Street team.
Speaker 1: We were the I told you he was, and then
Speaker 1: we took back that I told you he's gonna remember this.
Speaker 1: But I've always been wondering what happened to Buddha. Buddhist
Speaker 1: got me his brother, right, so Buddhism. Yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: when we worked. That's when we were the street team
Speaker 1: was heavy and the whole reggae tone and just that's fine.
Speaker 1: Got me some Gobby's looking like he looking at half
Speaker 1: of a man. Yeah, yeah, he respect I'm so happy,
Speaker 1: not only I expect you, I love you and I'm
Speaker 1: happy for you. Got be like I'm not see like
Speaker 1: he got a super smile ship he like that, Scott,
Speaker 1: he just got a huge check. Oh yeah, I forget
Speaker 1: the kid that he just saw it. Just did a
Speaker 1: deal with something, become some new hot kids. Something crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean in the scope I don't even just not
Speaker 1: gonna say hip hop because because because he was like
Speaker 1: your guy, that's just you clear so got me. So
Speaker 1: it was bud was over there to write quarter we
Speaker 1: can rob every so so into this when I did
Speaker 1: the whole sap pole. Right. So, Buddhoo is the head
Speaker 1: of the street team. He brings his what seventeen years
Speaker 1: all at the time, right, so I'm in the back
Speaker 1: of he brings gobby. He brings gobby, right, So I
Speaker 1: have seventy five grand of kesh on for no reason.
Speaker 1: Just got to you know, let's make some wrist moers
Speaker 1: for the seven grand alright, So in those days, we're
Speaker 1: going on the road for six weeks. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: bring any clothes. Everything we go into, I just find
Speaker 1: a Nike town or just whatever, just just go. So
Speaker 1: I'm in the back of the bus and I hess
Speaker 1: somebody just I don't know who god he is, but
Speaker 1: I'm peeing in my pants. That's how hard on that
Speaker 1: whoever the he's you know, cracking on. So I said,
Speaker 1: you know what, you're staying with me, and you hold
Speaker 1: onto this bag and don't go in this bag. Just
Speaker 1: hold it with your life. So you know, like these
Speaker 1: tall buses, they can't talk in front of the bus, right,
Speaker 1: So we have to like fifteen days. I have twenty
Speaker 1: Nike bags now from just going to the foot lockers
Speaker 1: of the world. And he said, you know, wherever the
Speaker 1: funk we are, because I would buy clothes for the day,
Speaker 1: so he would have to bring it. I said, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna funk with him. Take a thousand dollars at any
Speaker 1: bad Yeah, and I'm like, who has his money? Like,
Speaker 1: we're missing a thousand dollars. Meanwhile, he's like choking himself
Speaker 1: because he has like twenty bags around this. He really
Speaker 1: so he really starts to have a panic at time.
Speaker 1: So got me and then I realized, you know what,
Speaker 1: this guy is a fucking soldier and he's the he's
Speaker 1: with me for life. So cut too. We come back
Speaker 1: from doing this tour. You know, somebody breaks into our stock.
Speaker 1: Remember the old start allowed jackets that we had never
Speaker 1: had one good continue, they break, they break in, and
Speaker 1: they still a hundred thousand illar was worth the jackets.
Speaker 1: Then no young was worth neither. Right, So the videotape,
Speaker 1: it's gott be his cousin and Buddhist cousin the medic
Speaker 1: So now they so they both are gonna quit. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna quit, and I'm sucking around. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you just gonna bring me back a finger. So cut
Speaker 1: to two days later, my my cell phone and it's spooted.
Speaker 1: He goes, I don't have him, but I got his
Speaker 1: wife tied up. What you want me to get her finger?
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to make noise for them. That didn't happen.
Speaker 1: Actually there was no finger taking, but I mean, but
Speaker 1: it was like David, I mean, you talk about two
Speaker 1: guys that were just so fucking loyal. Now, that whole
Speaker 1: squad was incredible. Man, you guys were incredible to work with.
Speaker 1: You remember I remember being honor for like executive a
Speaker 1: year and my dad's with me. He's like, what his
Speaker 1: own gotta being Buddha because he fell in love with him.
Speaker 1: I said, watch, I'm at the Delano Hotel by the pool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and gotta be Buddha at the hotel next door, right,
Speaker 1: I said, you know, we just went the two ways.
Speaker 1: I was like, get over here. Within thirty seconds you
Speaker 1: hit just team cars crashing like they just jumped out
Speaker 1: of the clock. Didn't put it in your pocket, just
Speaker 1: destroyed the whole, the whole right, and you hear it
Speaker 1: by the pool. I said. My father's like, what the
Speaker 1: guy that that's gotta be in Buddha. So if you
Speaker 1: had to do it all over again, is this something
Speaker 1: you you wouldn't do it? What would you wouldn't do
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have sold the sony damn stave. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest. I need to understand why with Sony. We
Speaker 1: were the small fish in the ocean compared to MG
Speaker 1: being the big fish in the park. And if I
Speaker 1: didn't listen, as much as I love Jimmy, if I
Speaker 1: just just thought about the bottom line a little bit,
Speaker 1: was Jimmy was both forering you what Jimmy wasn't right.
Speaker 1: He was just saying, fuck BMG, don't worry about the
Speaker 1: bottom and they're making so much money if you this
Speaker 1: way that way market, youre this that bonusing up the
Speaker 1: ask And um, I mean and he was paying me,
Speaker 1: you should load of money. So you wish you would
Speaker 1: have went with Jimmy. No, I wish I would have
Speaker 1: just I should have stay. I would have just staged.
Speaker 1: He said, let me do what the funk I wanted
Speaker 1: to do. If if I wanted to change that, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry to cut you off, Steve, but it's that what
Speaker 1: do you what do you feel on that situation? Um? No,
Speaker 1: I think he has a point. But on the flip side,
Speaker 1: I mean, we did have a great opportunity at Sony
Speaker 1: with relativity, and I mean we did a hundred million
Speaker 1: dollars in building and in one quarter. Excuse me, tell
Speaker 1: let's need to say, was just him sorry that a
Speaker 1: hundred hundred one building cycle in the fourth quarter. The
Speaker 1: next thing to that, Jesus and not where I only
Speaker 1: are on def jam because the year before they put
Speaker 1: out the two d m X records, I think um
Speaker 1: and they had that crazy fourth quarters had a record
Speaker 1: at that time. I did not throw out too records.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I was a little guyn you were never
Speaker 1: a little guy. So I took ly was blue prods like,
Speaker 1: you know what, let's stack up the fourth quarter. So
Speaker 1: we had a Wool record, a Prodigy record, a three
Speaker 1: six Mafia recorded, an Exhibit record basically record, Yeah, a
Speaker 1: flex uh Flex record, Project Pat record, MLP record at
Speaker 1: that press record was going to Project Pat record as well.
Speaker 1: And Chris was up there at that time. No Chris,
Speaker 1: you know, Chris was was my manage from the beginning.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. Let me just tell you something.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember that when it came
Speaker 1: time for my soul, that was the thing. It was
Speaker 1: loud or it was definitely just like they kept going
Speaker 1: when they kept going, And the thing was Chris was like, man,
Speaker 1: you know what, I just I wanted to be mobb
Speaker 1: deep spelling, but I could have like like Chris told me,
Speaker 1: the kid kept real. It was just like, yo that
Speaker 1: if this is a queen's guy, let it be a
Speaker 1: mom deep Vieling. And that's the reason why I went
Speaker 1: to that chat. This is real ship, this is real ship.
Speaker 1: Steve was my land always like I don't give you
Speaker 1: coming away with me. I'm saying, but it was Chris.
Speaker 1: But that's why I wanted all you guys, you know,
Speaker 1: to share the story. But like so so so so
Speaker 1: you guys always worked. Okay, I'm sorry, No, I just
Speaker 1: I remember I remember a year man someone when we
Speaker 1: had was to BMG and our office in l A
Speaker 1: was in the BMG building and I think that's where
Speaker 1: it was. And Stephen had some sort of episode with
Speaker 1: somebody and you came in at the right time to
Speaker 1: come down. That's me and exhibit we're going out, Yes,
Speaker 1: tell us this story. No, that's a fact. I walked in.
Speaker 1: I walked in the sea sticky. I don't know what
Speaker 1: exhibit was was was on, but I walked in. I
Speaker 1: was wrong. I toltdally eximple to go fund himself or
Speaker 1: something that I mean, I was, I mean, but that
Speaker 1: was our relationship. And then he came like you, I
Speaker 1: could say no the phone, say it to my face.
Speaker 1: And he came in and we got each other's face,
Speaker 1: and I happened to be coming to see you, and
Speaker 1: I think you guys and exhibit, and he was, and
Speaker 1: I said, new, I could not allow it, but because
Speaker 1: of me as its great great friends. And then I'm
Speaker 1: and with exhip. It's over the son of my oldest
Speaker 1: son and born the same day. Wow, God bless that
Speaker 1: godless he's bey. No, that's beautiful, man, that's beautiful. I'm
Speaker 1: telling I'm trying to tell y'all, um, this would be
Speaker 1: y'all like y'all, y'all lee, worry Jesson. When I say
Speaker 1: worry Jesson, you remember how like the Jetson's would travel,
Speaker 1: they would be in the same place to go to
Speaker 1: a different I don't if you'll realize that the Jestic jestice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're traveling, but they're keeping the same thing. That's exactly
Speaker 1: what that talk could be. The talk could be the
Speaker 1: traveling label. I like to drink champ slot talk. I
Speaker 1: love to drink chatman, because we don't sounds strong. It
Speaker 1: sounds strong. It sounds like really really got to make announcement.
Speaker 1: Now that's like we're gonna do with just we're gonna
Speaker 1: set it off. What day is the actual January thirty next,
Speaker 1: Thurst dirty And Okay, I think there's some way we
Speaker 1: can make some way something, make it hark. We can
Speaker 1: do it. So we could u do it in that
Speaker 1: green room where we talked with all of ours as
Speaker 1: they're going in and out of the show. But but
Speaker 1: but we would do we provide even more than that.
Speaker 1: We're great, we're great street team people and services. But
Speaker 1: we would do is that's behind the scenes. But we
Speaker 1: were also hosts because you know, you gotta have somebody
Speaker 1: talking in between that press and and you know, he
Speaker 1: had finished being one of the grey and then I'm
Speaker 1: coming out of his host But then every night, behind
Speaker 1: the scenes, it's a drink Camps episode that I'm not
Speaker 1: going to. But that's really that's really what this industry
Speaker 1: is about. It is like us as people that have
Speaker 1: been that I said it earlier, fraternity. That's what I
Speaker 1: finally getting to feel like, like you know, the other
Speaker 1: day boosey Wa Kappa Kappa Kappa shirt and the fucking
Speaker 1: college people lost their mind. Sorry, sorry, exactly what I'm
Speaker 1: saying it lost a mind. Okay, I'm sorry, sir. I
Speaker 1: appreciate yourself. What I'm trying to say is that that's
Speaker 1: what I feel like hip hop should be. Like I
Speaker 1: feel like, if you've got ten years in this game
Speaker 1: a hip hop, we should have a flag shirt because
Speaker 1: this is because this is you know, for lack of
Speaker 1: a better term, like one of the people say that
Speaker 1: coach your vultures, and like ten years, fifteen years in
Speaker 1: this game, you should have we should we should have
Speaker 1: a pen. We should have a pen like generals, like generals,
Speaker 1: like the Marines, decorations that they called decorations like this
Speaker 1: isn't trying to say forty yearsn't And you have never
Speaker 1: been called a culture vulture ever? Or have you not gonna?
Speaker 1: I don't know, No, I don't think you have based
Speaker 1: and I don't think you have, but I don't think
Speaker 1: you have. But what we're going honest, man, what do
Speaker 1: you think that if you had? What do you think that?
Speaker 1: What do you do? That means? What that I haven't
Speaker 1: been called one? What it means? I don't even know
Speaker 1: what it means. It's taking advantage of somebody. I mean
Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's where you'd go, Yeah, what did
Speaker 1: you do? It warranted them calling you that he was
Speaker 1: apposed to dash that out of what they're referred to me.
Speaker 1: But I think I think that the idea behind the
Speaker 1: name is that you're profiting off of hip hop culture
Speaker 1: and not giving back, that you don't respect the culture,
Speaker 1: that you don't participate. You're just trying to exploit it
Speaker 1: and get money. And that's where your concern ends. But
Speaker 1: that's a real concern. I think it's totally leg There's
Speaker 1: a history of plenty of people exploiting other people based
Speaker 1: on color, based on their job, based on male or female.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of exploitation. I just don't think it's
Speaker 1: just restricted to music and hip hop and no, it
Speaker 1: was a culture vulture and all kinds of cultures whatever. Culture. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think I think, man, you know what, we
Speaker 1: have been doing this in hip hop and hip hop
Speaker 1: has been succeeding. And I think that we all together
Speaker 1: as a people, know who's this is. I want me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like Steve, I did not hope for you
Speaker 1: to drink this old. I can't drink heart because because
Speaker 1: she really had like a heart, Yeah, I had a
Speaker 1: real heart. Attack. He has a heart. Scary, scary because
Speaker 1: I remember it was like a Steve and then this,
Speaker 1: this is the after. This is the after Steve. No,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm trying to say, Like you know,
Speaker 1: before Steven was nuts, the wild Steve. He's very crazy.
Speaker 1: I like him. But this is the calm the post
Speaker 1: protect your hearts to Yes, you have I mean accident
Speaker 1: deflated right here. That's definitely gonna calm you down. Sure,
Speaker 1: I have no idea what you just said. If saulate
Speaker 1: so you know when your heart stops, it's just no,
Speaker 1: I do not. No, It's like the electric joint. Oh ship,
Speaker 1: Yeah you have one built in Yeah? No, holy ship?
Speaker 1: And I'm smoking like this not what could moving back? No? No,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I just can't smoke, but I could
Speaker 1: get take edible? Have you? I have? I beenly Is
Speaker 1: We have a Beverly Hills is phenomenal. By the way,
Speaker 1: drink this is a little way and ship? Why you
Speaker 1: have this Colombia that's my ship? I know what? Never trying?
Speaker 1: Yes man, you say it again? Boom boom boom boom.
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's not sisting on the pork chorse.
Speaker 1: Brobably listen on the Bumbo Bumbo. She's like my mom
Speaker 1: like fan move, but I really it's my Eyeland sister.
Speaker 1: You know good, it's good, it's good. All right, that's
Speaker 1: false and I listened to us. That's it all you
Speaker 1: other guys. I don't trust you at you give me
Speaker 1: false and shot. Tell me one more years. Take a shot,
Speaker 1: grab something shot all right, but let's take a shot.
Speaker 1: Motherfucking come take a shock. Take a shot. Take you
Speaker 1: gonna take a shot. You gotta track me, white man,
Speaker 1: you gotta take your ship. Got to mixing. Stop talking
Speaker 1: about the Listen. I'm not gonna lie at that out Steven, Steve,
Speaker 1: give Steve. Listen Steve. This is about Steve whipping. So
Speaker 1: we're gonna We're gonna keep with Steve. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: You're one of the best CEOs out there. You're a
Speaker 1: person that still stick by your artists no matter what. Uh,
Speaker 1: it doesn't even matter if you agree with the ideologies
Speaker 1: or not. You're standing there at that and that's the
Speaker 1: that's the definition of hip hop. That's the definition of
Speaker 1: what hip hop is supposed to be. Sometimes it's like
Speaker 1: you know what that ship is like right now? Like
Speaker 1: when I listened to the young generation. I don't agree
Speaker 1: with none of the ship, but I still box to it.
Speaker 1: I can line, but I'll be thinking it. So that's
Speaker 1: the definition of hip hop. I'm taking on like you
Speaker 1: know me. Also, the definition, right is it's not about
Speaker 1: the win sometimes because fact how many times you get up?
Speaker 1: So to me, that's what hip hop. Okay, so let's
Speaker 1: just salute to that, to that so little everybody, Okay,
Speaker 1: down quickly, that's fine. One. I gotta use your back.
Speaker 1: I think I piggies first. I got me go first.
Speaker 1: I got said what I'm saying to say this morning.
Speaker 1: Now after all this ship, right, well, you don't even
Speaker 1: take it down brown man, you came down to hang
Speaker 1: out with them. Now, this would tank our album. What
Speaker 1: did you? What did you? Girl? What's the those days? Correl? No,
Speaker 1: that's not that's not even listen. I'll never get a
Speaker 1: second guest prison. I'm not what that was his I
Speaker 1: understand what it was A dope idea. The idea was basic.
Speaker 1: It's dope there. It just got exploited in the wrong
Speaker 1: way by that got in the wrong hand, right, So
Speaker 1: that's so that's all. But I would never second guess
Speaker 1: at all. But it's like when the mty teacher the
Speaker 1: man's records are coming. I stayed in New York for
Speaker 1: the summer. He would come up to the office every
Speaker 1: single day with a notebook and it had and it
Speaker 1: had twenty seven lines. If he would have twenty seven
Speaker 1: questions right, and I would say yes to six out
Speaker 1: of seven, And he would say to me, why are
Speaker 1: you saying yes? Are you scanning me? I'm like, why
Speaker 1: would I be scary? Everything that you're asking for is
Speaker 1: making sense. And the one thing that I might have
Speaker 1: to say no to is because maybe I just don't
Speaker 1: have the money. But that even makes sense, So it
Speaker 1: has nothing to do about fear. What was there ever
Speaker 1: any of these artists or any of these records that
Speaker 1: were presented to you that you thought, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't want to touch this. No, I never like when
Speaker 1: Mom Deep came, you know how Now, Like if someone
Speaker 1: brings a a piece of content or a project that
Speaker 1: had previously had a deal and wasn't necessarily commercially successful,
Speaker 1: they might be like, no, I don't want to touch that.
Speaker 1: Like what made you see that mob Deep could be
Speaker 1: mob Deep? What they were in the day they came
Speaker 1: he wasn't there always have and just the rest of
Speaker 1: the mob deep they had this energy that just I mean,
Speaker 1: it was like had Woo performed, they just so don't
Speaker 1: matter what they had done before that, that happum was
Speaker 1: a break right right what mom, Like, I'm asking like
Speaker 1: from the back album. Hit it from the back album.
Speaker 1: So so when they came in, like they just took
Speaker 1: over the whole room and it was like, I gotta
Speaker 1: have these guys. Remember that they went into the men's
Speaker 1: room to smoke a blunt there and the fire and
Speaker 1: the water just came down. I was like, this is
Speaker 1: the perfect spinoff, was a matter of fact, and they
Speaker 1: kicked up BMG, kick this out where it's like you
Speaker 1: guys gotta have your own office now. So but but um,
Speaker 1: but I said, we take in between Woo. Did Nas
Speaker 1: come out before after we tang before around the same time,
Speaker 1: Actually google it Nas on though he had to record
Speaker 1: with the third search and Patre Yeah, back to the
Speaker 1: grill again And so I had was before and then
Speaker 1: um he might have had a single before us, because
Speaker 1: I remember when Nas called rizzm m um, they were
Speaker 1: ecstatic that Rizzo was gonna do two or three beats
Speaker 1: on the album, but they're all ninety three releases. Both
Speaker 1: of them were ninety three, like official album releases. I
Speaker 1: think they I think NAS came ninety four. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: because Tank came to Vember nag right, what Tang came
Speaker 1: November nine and the week he came out was tried
Speaker 1: and R Kelly, and then Snoop came that's different today,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, and then Snoop came out to sixteen Night,
Speaker 1: but it was out ninety two though Snoop with with
Speaker 1: this his first solo, don't say it was two. Check
Speaker 1: that scene definitely, that's definitely late nine three. Can we
Speaker 1: can we check the date though I'm almost possibly it's
Speaker 1: November sixteen. Yes, it's definitely late ninety three. I know
Speaker 1: that for facts. I love this right now. But you
Speaker 1: know what makes it confusing because back then people were
Speaker 1: promoting albums all right, yeah, yeah, like a year like now,
Speaker 1: nobody could conceive that that someone would have singles to
Speaker 1: lead him to an album almost a year year. Agree
Speaker 1: with this surprise album? How about you? How about Johnathan? Johnathan?
Speaker 1: I wanted to as I said, oh you got this
Speaker 1: surprise album? Like nowadays there's no promotion at all. There's
Speaker 1: no need for a street team, there's no need for nothing.
Speaker 1: They just like, there's just a problem. If you have
Speaker 1: these people, they just drop a surprise album. Do you
Speaker 1: agree with? That's only if they have the following that
Speaker 1: that makes it has the pot. But so many these
Speaker 1: people think they have the following and they they're very
Speaker 1: they're gonna Drake. Drake has to follow, Drake has a
Speaker 1: follow up. Beyonce and the Mega Star could do that,
Speaker 1: but nobody. Eminem did it last week. This word of
Speaker 1: mouth now, I mean it's like light switch speed travel
Speaker 1: so fast now it's been fresh on the buck. I
Speaker 1: mean like I would saying we would generally release three
Speaker 1: twelve inches at least before we're dropping an album with
Speaker 1: punt before it's still not a player. Three videos and
Speaker 1: the original version. So we had you Ain't to Kill Him?
Speaker 1: That's the white label, the real Wait, we had you
Speaker 1: Ain't to Kill U? The original You're not to Play
Speaker 1: with the o js right, the original without and then
Speaker 1: we came was still not a player. Then we came
Speaker 1: six weeks later with the Twins Right, which was a
Speaker 1: deep cover record R right. And then we came with
Speaker 1: Your record, and we came and came up right, So
Speaker 1: we had five singles within a matter of you think
Speaker 1: you think, you think, damn that that's that's that's that's
Speaker 1: freaking awesome. By the way, we you just broke that down.
Speaker 1: Everybody listening like that ship was ill. So we four videos,
Speaker 1: so we did it was one of the five solo layout.
Speaker 1: You think anybody could do that? Now they're dealing with Drake.
Speaker 1: I don't know any new artists that could. You got
Speaker 1: me on that one. I don't know, no little way
Speaker 1: you could do it, little right, but not a brand
Speaker 1: new artist. But when you think it gets them, the
Speaker 1: results of that one million in the first week or
Speaker 1: the million in the first week, don't I don't know
Speaker 1: how this whole streaming ship works now. I know the
Speaker 1: record companies are getting paid a fortune, right, I know
Speaker 1: Universal gets like five million dollars a year from Spotify,
Speaker 1: So really, I mean it's something right, right, Mandy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they split up the uh subscription fees. And I think
Speaker 1: the reason it works so good in the surprise albums
Speaker 1: is because back when we started, your friend would have
Speaker 1: to buy it and then you have to tape it
Speaker 1: from you and the other friend would have to buy it.
Speaker 1: Now once it comes out, everyone has access to it.
Speaker 1: So it's just a word of mouth thing that can
Speaker 1: spread like that. I'm working. You don't have to pay
Speaker 1: anything extra. I'm working with the Suicide Boys. Now, okay,
Speaker 1: that's why that they are maker. This is it's a
Speaker 1: punk band right there, h two kids. Not New Orleans
Speaker 1: a city, but the country of New Orleans. And the
Speaker 1: way they are streaming right this second is crazy, right.
Speaker 1: I would deal is up with Universal in six months.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be the biggest bidding warm and I've never
Speaker 1: had a bidding war in my whole career. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be the biggest bidding warm of the year. M hm.
Speaker 1: And they can on your masters took well, they own
Speaker 1: we own our we own our own right. So do
Speaker 1: you do you recommend an artist that has that kind
Speaker 1: of following that you're talking about? Could they go independent?
Speaker 1: Because it allows you to be We are in the
Speaker 1: autonomous We are independent. We're going through Caroline right the second,
Speaker 1: which is owned by the Universal Right, So we are
Speaker 1: So what's what's what's the pros? And going to a
Speaker 1: major label at this there's no more pro lax all
Speaker 1: the time we were opposite side of this. You're all
Speaker 1: still taking advances And he said, then, huh, I don't know.
Speaker 1: We're hanging out with its leave. But two days. If
Speaker 1: you're a brand new artist right in today's marketplace, right,
Speaker 1: you gotta jump start to record yourself before they're back,
Speaker 1: before the labels, before the labels come. So if you
Speaker 1: run out of money, then you do need the label, right.
Speaker 1: But if you could figure out a way to get
Speaker 1: that money, keep that money, own your own ship and
Speaker 1: do it yourself, you're gonna make a fucking force. And
Speaker 1: if you have a team that knows how to monetize properly,
Speaker 1: it's just I mean, but that's my it's not being
Speaker 1: gonna It's like, if I could help you make ten
Speaker 1: million dollars, please do that right And if God, but
Speaker 1: if I even needed something from you, I think you
Speaker 1: would be there for me. And I'm not talking about money, right.
Speaker 1: So that's always been my thing with me and Puff
Speaker 1: were together at BMG, even though he was at our
Speaker 1: stuff and I was at our say, I gave him
Speaker 1: my connect to the chairman's boss, the chim that's what
Speaker 1: he calls himself. Now go himselves. The Chiman that makes
Speaker 1: looks for the Chimman. So that's how I've always just
Speaker 1: in life. If if I if I could help you, great,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna watched the but I'm not asking for
Speaker 1: anything in return. I still got to rely on myself
Speaker 1: and my team to do what we have to do
Speaker 1: all right now. So we also know if you have
Speaker 1: like like the good music connected, is that good music
Speaker 1: connects coming out at this show? I don't think so
Speaker 1: is it a DMX like you know out of if
Speaker 1: we have straight to the motherfucking there might be something.
Speaker 1: It might be something like that because if you remember
Speaker 1: ran right he had on the third album of the
Speaker 1: Flex album, we had the first single with DMX, I
Speaker 1: don't single was that I forget the name of it was.
Speaker 1: We shot the video in Toronto. We shot the videos
Speaker 1: you remember, and then the dog ran off the runway
Speaker 1: ors what I mean? It was something yeah, yeah, So
Speaker 1: when they gave all the drugs to the white guy
Speaker 1: because customs came out the private yea even one more shot.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Was you know, ex is crazy out of
Speaker 1: his mind. Great guys, but we had my school and
Speaker 1: Chris working taught us. Yeah, they were Christmas called. We
Speaker 1: stayed outside the excess house for maybe two hours while
Speaker 1: the jets just sat there. No one knew if you
Speaker 1: were going to come. Every I was nervous. I was
Speaker 1: like a confused in front of um excess house. We
Speaker 1: put the jet so planes the way you said it
Speaker 1: was actually experting in white planes and we had the
Speaker 1: jet originally coming out of teter where we moved to
Speaker 1: jet from Teterborough to white planes to just make it
Speaker 1: as easy as possible. He still didn't make it. I
Speaker 1: think it's liver in my kissco though at all time.
Speaker 1: Actually he made it. We got there late, hours, hours,
Speaker 1: laid over, just crazy, but we made it. It happened.
Speaker 1: And remember remember Leo calling me. He goes, he is
Speaker 1: my biggest artist and I'm gonna do everything possible not
Speaker 1: to make this happen. You know that whole ship caused
Speaker 1: a whole lot of problems. We're talking about Chris so
Speaker 1: you just for a performance that he became the singing
Speaker 1: so just just him recording the records. The problem video
Speaker 1: he did video, he didn't get the video everything. He
Speaker 1: did twelve million records in what six months, So he's
Speaker 1: def Jam's biggest artist. Chris, we've def jam to come
Speaker 1: become our partner pretty much right and then and then Todd,
Speaker 1: I'm in Italy. I know that you're gonna stop because
Speaker 1: I kept saying you were the first things, like listen,
Speaker 1: we gotta the last name is very important. We say
Speaker 1: we need our listeners to google ship in Moscow. So
Speaker 1: Tom Musto was left. He was so with Chris, he
Speaker 1: was even death Champ. We didn't even have the deal yet.
Speaker 1: But I guess Leo found out and he kicked him
Speaker 1: out of the bill. Am I correct? And there's something
Speaker 1: he found out? Yeah, I'm in Italy dealing with the
Speaker 1: new owner of Red Distribution, which we which we still
Speaker 1: known to this day. We had a sign off on
Speaker 1: the deal and I wasn't signing off. I was a
Speaker 1: knucklehead in those days. I wasn't right and le Or
Speaker 1: I don't have the funk. He reached me, but he
Speaker 1: found me in Lake Pomo, Italy, and he says, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do it. This is very right. I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: everything possible. When does Alfacino come into the picture again,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do everything possible to block this. Just DMX
Speaker 1: being on a single, but I don't think it was
Speaker 1: about me. I think it was more about Chris Moscut's leaving.
Speaker 1: All right, so I'm going to funk with y'all. Chris came.
Speaker 1: Chris came first, and then Moscuts came like six months. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can see where Leo is coming from. You guys
Speaker 1: that I would have done the same you guys was
Speaker 1: a threat and then you had the number one album
Speaker 1: on your first single, number one. Honest, he was ruthless, bro,
Speaker 1: he was true. This just makes a nice for me.
Speaker 1: Who you are? Who you are, bro? Like who you are?
Speaker 1: Do you still have it? I mean, I'm just me.
Speaker 1: I mean. And then and so ship got my notes
Speaker 1: so that say you're Kanye but you're on the dogs.
Speaker 1: It was great. Oh, we hope to see for him soon.
Speaker 1: Is that with focuses? So when I left Kanye, okay,
Speaker 1: are you left one of Kanye's things recently? Did you
Speaker 1: make it happen? That's so I'm gonna tell I'll tell
Speaker 1: you how the whole thing with it? So who No,
Speaker 1: it was neutral with me and ye and I got
Speaker 1: a phone call from the head of c A Music
Speaker 1: to barm c I c A created nation. That's totally wrong.
Speaker 1: So let's say it very confident. See. So they said
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do now? And I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm gonna You know, he just paid
Speaker 1: me literally for two years, and he was spending me
Speaker 1: a lot of one. So I said, I'm going to
Speaker 1: figure it out, but I know I want I don't
Speaker 1: know if I want to work anybody again. I want
Speaker 1: my own thing. He goes, there's this management company that
Speaker 1: manage a whole bunch of dance arts, Um, Steve Ioki,
Speaker 1: you know, a whole bunch of DJs. You just got
Speaker 1: a shipload of money from a company, from a private
Speaker 1: equity company out of London, and they're looking to go
Speaker 1: into the urban space. Do you want to take a
Speaker 1: meeting with that? So I was like, all right, cool,
Speaker 1: take the meeting and we work at the deal where
Speaker 1: it's called lab Management, and I had nobody um, And
Speaker 1: then X performed at Sunday Service Wow. And that night,
Speaker 1: that Sunday night after I had a dream that I
Speaker 1: was gonna make his new comeback out a dream a dream.
Speaker 1: So I called Rich Isaacson. I was like, who's managing X?
Speaker 1: And you said, I got the name with pat Alla,
Speaker 1: right and so I tried calling Pat, didn't call me back.
Speaker 1: You know, you know this, So Ali got me a Pat,
Speaker 1: flew to New York, sat down with um X, worked
Speaker 1: it out, sat down with the Rough Riders, who I love,
Speaker 1: UM work what they needed, and now the next month
Speaker 1: or two we're going to make a new album. Okay,
Speaker 1: he's he's he's because I'm really not abbressed. Um is
Speaker 1: he out of exactly? Okay? Big him up? Feel um?
Speaker 1: You know, I realized, like yesterday was the interview a
Speaker 1: little way, and I realized how much of a box
Speaker 1: that he put himself in. And I realized how much
Speaker 1: of a box I put myself in. But I don't
Speaker 1: never want to be in a super box. So the
Speaker 1: fact that I didn't even know what d MX is
Speaker 1: out makes me know that I gotta get back off
Speaker 1: my ship. I gotta. I should have knew that I
Speaker 1: should That shouldn't have been a question. One of the shot.
Speaker 1: Let's done at the shots that your living Pepper got
Speaker 1: Living Pepper. Yeah, I know that too. Let's take the shot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of motherfucker brackets, brand Yak and John our
Speaker 1: motherfucker Rifkin and motherfucker's Steve and Steve Riber your interviews.
Speaker 1: Who want to do something that we implicated new It's
Speaker 1: called quick Time with Slime? Are you ready? Six slime?
Speaker 1: Holy moldy? What come only folks? You know what time
Speaker 1: it is? He knows what time it is. She knows
Speaker 1: what time it is. And I think we know what
Speaker 1: time it is. It is quick time. What's America's favorite
Speaker 1: game show? Holding? We're just gonna give you one. You
Speaker 1: just gotta just picking one real quick and just can't
Speaker 1: not doing all right? Okay, it's just big picker one,
Speaker 1: pick one, pick one, don't give you two choices? You ready? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Brief the boxes? That's that. I didn't see this coming,
Speaker 1: MP Martha. Any of it is my favorite record of
Speaker 1: all Time's great person Lis Damn. That's that's I'm mean.
Speaker 1: They're twins, right, so I can't let you get away
Speaker 1: because he's got maybe more. It's a real great No
Speaker 1: they were who time was my first child? Okay boom
Speaker 1: somm d mov boom big fun ex int it bo
Speaker 1: I can't answer that. Vegas, my head, Vegas. Should you
Speaker 1: want to say that? But yeah, but you know that's
Speaker 1: that's where I had to keep the key. Bob White woman,
Speaker 1: black woman, you know that answer? What needs you to
Speaker 1: answer with them? Blackman? Okay, Chris comment is suicide of
Speaker 1: christ not cost Kristin not people keep dropping of it
Speaker 1: my head. Um, okay, hold on, hold on, let's do it. No,
Speaker 1: it's jaz. I'm not answering that great office like that
Speaker 1: two black bag, not answering that either. But Tupac was
Speaker 1: my roommate though room start. The best roommates have to
Speaker 1: rock carry. I didn't take it from so you're Tupac?
Speaker 1: What happened his first album, Jimmy Hi at us don't
Speaker 1: get He wasn't on Yeah, they just Scope. Originally he
Speaker 1: was through a guy any of agent Gregory and Let's Go.
Speaker 1: Athan Gregory managed did You Don't Underground? They signed Pop's Go.
Speaker 1: So we would do these promotion to us Thursday to Monday,
Speaker 1: come back sometime one day, and then we'd have to
Speaker 1: go back out on Thursday using Wednesday. He's staying at
Speaker 1: my place for a year? Is it in l A
Speaker 1: in l A studio city? Wow, like a live bust.
Speaker 1: The rhymes told me someone lives to the same story.
Speaker 1: We're gonna keep playing quick Slid with Fly Are you ready?
Speaker 1: Flat has you ready. That was a great story. He
Speaker 1: brought away all ready we left over two pocket Biggie. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel like you disagree with me. I feel like
Speaker 1: you don't know what? Yeah you ready alight? Cool po
Speaker 1: little kid with Fox Bro Kim, Kevin mar or Chris Rock. Wow,
Speaker 1: I'm going with Christian I was good alcohol Onleen. I
Speaker 1: don't either quality control music or t d E man.
Speaker 1: So to me, it's two different types of It's like
Speaker 1: it's just one questions. I got it. You know this
Speaker 1: is m It's it's like bad boy and live that's
Speaker 1: fucking phenomenal. You gotta pick one, man, I'm living with's
Speaker 1: gonging with top okay, cash money at that brong cash
Speaker 1: money Okay, that is the quintessential right now, eminem m
Speaker 1: g k or geez ham on that and that is
Speaker 1: called the quicker time side. That was all. I'm sorry. So,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I love I love my ship. I'm just
Speaker 1: being so now we got us all together? Huh, what
Speaker 1: what's going on? I got a chicken wing. You got
Speaker 1: a chicken wing over there, chicken wing of chick away
Speaker 1: sick so yo. So now this is the first loud experience.
Speaker 1: What's it called without experience. Damn you named it the
Speaker 1: Loud experience times Strange Champs experience experience. I got one
Speaker 1: more shot left to me before I wrap it up.
Speaker 1: Do you realize the rabbit up the shot? The shot exit? Yeah,
Speaker 1: shot exit speech rabbit UPO. Yeah, that's so safe. It's safe.
Speaker 1: So we asked every way show that comes here, and
Speaker 1: we asked every you know, I guess to come. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what is your favorite error in the hip hop? Give
Speaker 1: us a timid ten ten years spent or give us
Speaker 1: this your fucking army us. It doesn't matter. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say my ladder okay, and now his loud
Speaker 1: can you assump is loud? That is that a ten
Speaker 1: year for one year of what year? Two thousand two?
Speaker 1: It's definitely yeah. I think it won that one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think. All right, okay, all right, I agree ninety
Speaker 1: two two thousand or two. Have we think the best
Speaker 1: era bestr Yeah, ninety two two thousand two. I agree? Well, well,
Speaker 1: hold on, hold actually no, no, I gotta say eight.
Speaker 1: I gotta say, man, I'm probably also biased, you know.
Speaker 1: I think the time when I went but to two
Speaker 1: thousand and seven, that era that was really driven by
Speaker 1: Rockefeller rough Riders. M hm to me, that one my
Speaker 1: favorite name. I had another run from two thousand to
Speaker 1: two thousand ten, which might even be bigger than that
Speaker 1: when Vanner got it. This is a kind of bad
Speaker 1: and yeah, just sport the city and heat doing different
Speaker 1: sort the city would like everything, right, No, no, you
Speaker 1: guys are killing it big up to David Banner. He's
Speaker 1: a big friend of the show as well. He might
Speaker 1: be giving us a surprise music David. That's basically takes
Speaker 1: some shots. So I see loud, motherfucking records, Steve, motherfucker
Speaker 1: rip John, We're fucking ready act that we're all here.
Speaker 1: I am gonna take this down. That's wants you to know. Man.
Speaker 1: You know, in our game neue time people get you know,
Speaker 1: ten years or more, and they want to kick us
Speaker 1: out of this game. And the thing is, the more
Speaker 1: you get seasoned your wine, the more better it tastes.
Speaker 1: The morning you get knocked down, the better you got up.
Speaker 1: Nobody thought that was good, right, s RC might not
Speaker 1: have been as cool as Live, but it was just
Speaker 1: as big as not bigger. So before we get up
Speaker 1: out of here, everything's going And how did the health
Speaker 1: like how did the health like just up? Yeah, like
Speaker 1: what was going on? I never went to a doctor.
Speaker 1: You're you're like really black. That's like I didn't go
Speaker 1: to the doctor thirty years Okay, damn yeah that's really black. Continue.
Speaker 1: So it was my so if I went to a
Speaker 1: doctor that he would told me my blood pressure was
Speaker 1: sucked up like shore, it was stopped up, getting the
Speaker 1: boss a lot of stress games, weight that I shouldn't
Speaker 1: have gained. That was that was before. So just I
Speaker 1: mean I died three times? Wow? Wait you said he
Speaker 1: died three times? Um the table? I mean where was
Speaker 1: it during the table emergency? In the emergency room? Yeah,
Speaker 1: they shocked him three times a shock? Who shocked? Do
Speaker 1: you remember that? So it was Christmas Eve six years
Speaker 1: ago with this best Christmas Eve. I was playing my
Speaker 1: oldest Sun was still in high school, but he was
Speaker 1: a basketball player. He dunked on me and he was
Speaker 1: hanging from the rim and his nuts was in my face.
Speaker 1: So I so I punched him in the face, not
Speaker 1: out of anger, joking around like this is the most
Speaker 1: disrespectful a sunk and ever a dude to a spot.
Speaker 1: So my ex wife is from Trinidad, so she sees
Speaker 1: what's going on and her accents. She starts jelling at me,
Speaker 1: calling me an animal, this, that, But we're laughing. Next thing,
Speaker 1: you know, I can't breathe all right, and I don't
Speaker 1: have chest pains, but I have a pain in my
Speaker 1: back around. I said, maybe I pulled the muscle from
Speaker 1: the swing. I mean, I had no idea what it was.
Speaker 1: I said, something doesn't matter. She goes, just take a
Speaker 1: shower and go sleep. It's Christmas. Seed. No, we're in.
Speaker 1: We're in close enough. I go, I'm staying in her
Speaker 1: guesthouse was very beautiful too as well. I'm staying in
Speaker 1: a guesthouse. I call nine one, take his annex and
Speaker 1: take a shower. They came and said, oh, you gotta
Speaker 1: take you in. He took me and remember them cutting
Speaker 1: my shirt. Tell me I am having an art attack.
Speaker 1: And there's the doctor. Actually, the doctor who was in
Speaker 1: the emergency room was my father's doctor. He goes, are
Speaker 1: you related to Julie Rifkin. I'm like yeah, he goes,
Speaker 1: I'm his doctor. So I felt some type of because
Speaker 1: he lived down here. Oh my dad, yeah, um, because
Speaker 1: the doctor was Yeah, the doctor was my dad's doctor.
Speaker 1: So I felt literally and next thing, you know, the
Speaker 1: thing that they put in your throat to keep your breathing.
Speaker 1: I ripped it out and yeah, not a good looking that.
Speaker 1: It's just kind of it's kind of it's kind of weird,
Speaker 1: like you're talking about your U. But I don't know
Speaker 1: if I funked up my lion next um and I
Speaker 1: was in the hospital for a week and ever since then,
Speaker 1: you know, God bless me, you know, so just God
Speaker 1: bless amen. So can you say hold before that, no
Speaker 1: lessen to the jay Z story. Yeah, man, you guys
Speaker 1: were leaving. No before that. You have to get a
Speaker 1: jay Z story because I feel like this was like
Speaker 1: twice that you drive like, so what what? What exactly happened?
Speaker 1: So I go back with Dames since sixteen years old
Speaker 1: Dan Right? So Damien's managing Original Flavors with his cousin
Speaker 1: Damien Right and I had a relationship and I was
Speaker 1: doing the promotion for Original Flavor. Were they signed to
Speaker 1: a label? Day was signed to? Okay, Oh so c
Speaker 1: Craik Cowbor wasn't did that long? Craig was that? Yeah right,
Speaker 1: he wasn't the Bosher, but Craig was connected. Craig is
Speaker 1: one that was putting me on all these rugs. You listen,
Speaker 1: If Craig Day is original flavor, I'm gonna be Craig
Speaker 1: signed boys, bad boys, bad boys. You know, family did
Speaker 1: should be nobody in that building bigger than Correc should
Speaker 1: be the biggest dude in the by. Now that was something.
Speaker 1: This was I'll tell you exactly what that day with
Speaker 1: a teenager. So I'll tell you exactly what it was.
Speaker 1: I'm asking you, is Julia Mike kas is bigger than Craig. No, No,
Speaker 1: Julie No. Kaiser's head of Urban um D, president of
Speaker 1: Erman CEO and Craig All right there, all right, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Continue the day that Christian Latner hit the shot against
Speaker 1: Kentucky Christian lay what was that ninety two nine two?
Speaker 1: That's when, um, that's when I met Damon's cousin, Darren
Speaker 1: d So cut to because darreny here Denver sell a
Speaker 1: lot of wet and assisted Stacy does, right, So cut
Speaker 1: to ninety you know whatever it was, Dane, Jay come
Speaker 1: to the office, well maybe just dat and he plays me.
Speaker 1: Jay's out. I want to do the I want to
Speaker 1: do right, but I have to get permission, as I'll see, no,
Speaker 1: I have to get permisson from b MG to sign it.
Speaker 1: It's Claude Davids. No, there was strouds Zelnick and Kevin
Speaker 1: Zinger so and I forget who the president was at
Speaker 1: the time, Joe Glante. I think um at our at
Speaker 1: our c A. And it was the time right around
Speaker 1: the time that I threw the chair, you know. So
Speaker 1: it was like, DMG never let me sign Jack or
Speaker 1: Rocket Fellow. So that's the real story. I mean, I
Speaker 1: would never pass on something like that. But because I'm
Speaker 1: like big face Gary, I don't know. I see, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know Gary, because b face Gary his a
Speaker 1: subject was he came to do you guys, um and
Speaker 1: you didn't sign. We didn't. We didn't do. But I
Speaker 1: wanted I had listened to me. I had the best
Speaker 1: day in our guys in the business. They brought it
Speaker 1: to me. I was never gonna say no. If Mattie's
Speaker 1: got free brought something right, I signed punt on the
Speaker 1: spot without hearing a record because Maddie showed up at
Speaker 1: the office, did the same Maddie from the source. Yeah yeah, ready,
Speaker 1: see So that's that's how I signed. That's how I
Speaker 1: signed Matty was in the the office here, No I
Speaker 1: found punt was. I was intocogo with Quincy on the
Speaker 1: private plane. As you know where we are, guy, I
Speaker 1: didn't even Nicky Benson calls me. Mickey calls me with
Speaker 1: Fat Joe on the phone. I said, Joe, I mean Chicago.
Speaker 1: I'll be in New York on Monday. Let's be Tuesday.
Speaker 1: From Thursday to Tuesday, I must get eight to ten
Speaker 1: calls that I shouldn't sign Joe because he's a gangster,
Speaker 1: he's an extortionist, exists, he's that. Joe comes to your office,
Speaker 1: I said, before we start the meeting, let me talk
Speaker 1: to you for a second. I said, I got ten
Speaker 1: calls that I shouldn't sign him or put Everybody says
Speaker 1: you're a gangster, you're an extortionist, And I said, you
Speaker 1: know what, but I'm a gangster and I love gangsters.
Speaker 1: I said, so we're gonna figures out that anaming. That's well.
Speaker 1: I love you. Jill is probably one of those people
Speaker 1: to be in life. Hey till me the same story
Speaker 1: word for word for big think could have made his
Speaker 1: side of the story, and you're could have made this
Speaker 1: your story, and it could be word for word for baid. Wait,
Speaker 1: it's I just want you to let you know thank you.
Speaker 1: It believes me like, like, that's that's crazy. So so
Speaker 1: say I forget, So say we meet. I meet Joe
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. I'm going back to l A on Thursday.
Speaker 1: Said can you come back tomorrow and bring Punt and
Speaker 1: the meetings earlier because I gotta catch a flight back
Speaker 1: to l A. So me say around eleven o'clock and Maddie,
Speaker 1: who has she had an office with, is in the office.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the funk are you doing here again?
Speaker 1: I got a six figure of royalty check waiting for
Speaker 1: him that he hasn't picked up in six weeks. Maddow,
Speaker 1: here's an ant your meeting punk. I'm like, you came
Speaker 1: for this. The second day, walk into the meeting Joe
Speaker 1: and Pump, I said, you gotta deal. Who's your lawyer?
Speaker 1: Everybody's like, are you bullshit me up? Like, I'm not
Speaker 1: not bullshitting it, and Maddie goes, well, what are you
Speaker 1: gonna do? I said, your job to make the ricket
Speaker 1: and your head push do you want to hear this?
Speaker 1: And that's how the deal was done. I couick the boy.
Speaker 1: It was tim and the bout called bigger about them.
Speaker 1: He was more lawyer at the time, and the deal
Speaker 1: was done within a week. And what what and you
Speaker 1: go did you did you think? Like? Because all right,
Speaker 1: Joe at the time, Um well, I'm not inven sure
Speaker 1: Joe was kind of gold time. No it wasn't. It
Speaker 1: wasn't even gold. But he was funny as how. He
Speaker 1: made me laugh. It was when night. I guess Chris
Speaker 1: was managing him for a minute two but right, yeah, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: So there was one day meet and Chris were on
Speaker 1: the way to play bowling, had to stop at the studio.
Speaker 1: You and Christmas all the way what played basketball? Okay?
Speaker 1: All right, and Joe was outside the studio. I don't
Speaker 1: know Joe at the time, but he cracked a joke.
Speaker 1: The window was open, and I mean I was just laughing. So,
Speaker 1: like I said, I can only judge you, but how
Speaker 1: do you treat me? You know? And that's how I'm
Speaker 1: going to treat you. So I mean, and that's what
Speaker 1: people literally called you all said don't yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know who's gonna keep Benton tall. And he's
Speaker 1: told his story on Drink Care. So many tells it's
Speaker 1: so great to Yeah, so like, let's say this story
Speaker 1: because he told his story. So we had a meeting. Um,
Speaker 1: you know what, Jeremy's the guy from ut Okay, right,
Speaker 1: so I brought Joe to That's the guy I introduced it.
Speaker 1: Gu Yeah, so Joe told him the story the end
Speaker 1: the day and I'm like, yeah, it's true. God damn
Speaker 1: makes a larger stay working. And then you know, we
Speaker 1: took Joe to Vegas with us. That's that's because I've
Speaker 1: been hearing this. You have the keys to a private
Speaker 1: room in a strip club in Vegas. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's specting the day. I mean it
Speaker 1: was the Crazy Horse to Crazy Horse. I knew that. Know,
Speaker 1: if you want to our uncle, our uncle, your uncle
Speaker 1: all day? What kind of uncle's it sounds like some
Speaker 1: shot ship, like like mafia ship making the day. I
Speaker 1: ain't a lot of your father. I ain't a lot
Speaker 1: your father on the record, Labe when your uncles the car?
Speaker 1: What's going on here? We're good, we're here high school.
Speaker 1: This is the mafia? Dog is really I respected? I
Speaker 1: would saying that we had house in acts in case
Speaker 1: people don't know, man, and we're doing it man, Yo,
Speaker 1: Steve Man, thank you for taking time out. But let's
Speaker 1: also let's pick up this motherfucking concert that's going down.
Speaker 1: What is it going down? And what date is it?
Speaker 1: January thirty, New York City Radio City Music Hall, January
Speaker 1: thirty of motherfucking New York City. A lot of experience,
Speaker 1: a lot of Tradio City Music Hall having hip hop
Speaker 1: shows with that man. Tomorrow, I'm going to shot from
Speaker 1: my jacket because it sounds very cold, because I don't
Speaker 1: do the cold no more in New York City. Let's
Speaker 1: try not to. I checked the weather. It says to
Speaker 1: be degrees. That's cold to me, sir. What was the
Speaker 1: first hip hop show? Ranging? City Music Cup? What? What
Speaker 1: was the first hip hop show ranging? I would say
Speaker 1: the MTB Awards. What was the first one? I think
Speaker 1: it was The Roots The Roots in two thousand five
Speaker 1: with the BC Boys opening from Madonna The Like Emergent album.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I called that all the way
Speaker 1: hip hop show. Yeah, boys headlines, OBC Boys participated, partician
Speaker 1: half hip hop, But I don't know you're right with that.
Speaker 1: Where did they get food? They got? Guys? It was
Speaker 1: Madonna's crowd, like you know, oh Diabo that Drake at
Speaker 1: Um Tyler Um the career that crowd tying the Yeah
Speaker 1: you don't know, like Drake got booed Drake at Tyler's festival.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, I said, the said man definitely whatever that
Speaker 1: makes it real better. But yeah, yeah that so you
Speaker 1: said best boys dealt Drake. So this is the Drake
Speaker 1: Boys from from Madonna. But what tour was it? Like?
Speaker 1: It was like the Black Emergent talk like up so
Speaker 1: test for the very Crow saying it's before and everything
Speaker 1: knew that act. They were just like getting hot and
Speaker 1: they but Drake been hot. He's not supposed to be.
Speaker 1: He's not supposed to be. He was not. Did you
Speaker 1: see that year? I heard about it. Yet his fans
Speaker 1: is terrible class. Let's just be clear. I don't want
Speaker 1: but Tyler responded he was dope the way he like
Speaker 1: he came back at his fan, Yeah him to fun him?
Speaker 1: Then he no him? Was he not? When I tried
Speaker 1: signing him Thylan Future Future, which is sucking ill the
Speaker 1: whole cruise because up the swasticker what they did? What? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And I guess they were trying to get a reaction
Speaker 1: out of me, and it was just like a real
Speaker 1: swastika or the Chinese they drew a real swastick in
Speaker 1: the conference room the meeting that I was having. Not funny.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, okay, I can't. So I was just
Speaker 1: like as a little to Yeah, not funny. I think
Speaker 1: that's we're in it. Yeah, we're just phenomenon. But let's
Speaker 1: let's what this is this concert again? This is January
Speaker 1: THIRTI next Thursday, Radio City Music Hall. When this comes
Speaker 1: out this Thursday, Yes, this Thursday comes out, this coming Thursday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when this comes out, it's this Thursday, because yeah, being
Speaker 1: like Monday. Has somebody liked this Thursday, January thirtieth, Yes,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna get up. We're gonna get us up
Speaker 1: there because Steve got the private platte. There were quite
Speaker 1: we gotta quis play, you know, just real quick, bring
Speaker 1: chess for hostess and get the funk about it. He's
Speaker 1: orchestading in the band. Yeah, man, John d Man, Randy
Speaker 1: accum Man, y'all, thank y'all for you know, Randia is
Speaker 1: a part of you know us but you know you guys,
Speaker 1: but you know, you know, we really appreciate what you do, guys.
Speaker 1: Till for the business does stan told for your artists
Speaker 1: and we respect that and thank you guys, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean what and then h drops. Thanks for
Speaker 1: joining us for another episode of Drink Champs hosted by
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