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Speaker 1: you know. Um, I mean when Jane Day came, we

426
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 1: get into that. Yeah, let's right now. So I mean

427
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: I had a report to our c A. So we

428
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: came out into blue your distribution be we we came

429
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Speaker 1: out of a blue people based in l A. I

430
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: was creat creating, having you know, I was spontify fucking nuts, right,

431
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,479
Speaker 1: I had a temper everything else like that, so I

432
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 1: wasn't allowing um our say to shoot on us, you know.

433
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 1: And then we got lucky. There was a guy who

434
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 1: after he turned into a brother rows got the name

435
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: of Mojo Nicosia, who was a promotion guy at our

436
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: c A. And we just brought him into our family.

437
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 1: And you know, this this guy Jesse, he stayed at

438
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: our CIA and just busted his ass and he went

439
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: on a van and he zigzagged across the country with

440
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: the group on our CIA Stein you know that, you know,

441
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 1: and then you know he got hit by a truck

442
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: helping promote, you know, promoting our stuff. So and it

443
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: was like when he got yeah, when he um, when

444
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 1: he was halfway healed, I said, funk, you're coming with us,

445
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: you know. And then him and my brother and then

446
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 1: there's Rich Isaacson. They literally ran the company. Um so

447
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: they literally you know, round the company, Johnson Mojo around

448
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 1: the whole streets and radio Rich rand the company. And

449
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 1: it was really you know, the four of us that

450
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: just you know, and then we brought in Maddie and

451
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: then we brought in Free as already and our guys

452
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 1: and you know as Loud had a motherfucking run man,

453
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: Holy block. The movie. I mean it defined like the

454
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: classic era that people talk about in like the early

455
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 1: to mid nineties of hip hop that allowed to me

456
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: to find it. Yeah. Now, okay, Boom the Clan drops

457
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 1: thirty six shapes, right you know you you know you

458
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 1: got you know, you got the new Mega Stars, right Boom,

459
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: But no Method Man Um and Method Man is at death,

460
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 1: jam Old b is at electric exactly. Yeah, Boom, but

461
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: didn't you come out with another classic? But before that, okay,

462
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: I'm trying to sign Mike drown him wow before Mark,

463
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 1: this is okay, this is right around Oh yeah, at

464
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: the same time. So I meet her, okay, and we

465
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: couldn't get this fucking sample quit for I forget the

466
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: name of the single, but you know, but what it

467
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 1: his first single one, right, So we couldn't get the

468
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: sample cleard and and I actually said, just don't waste

469
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: your time, and it's just focused on whoo and just

470
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: and shook. One's starting to bubble. Oh yeah, that was

471
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: that was a great But I don't know, but if

472
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: if we did the deal with her, you would have

473
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: got J baby a lot of DM DMX. I mean,

474
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: it would have been it would have been a game changer.

475
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: It would it would have been a whole different start.

476
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: And they went to t VT with Steve Gottlieb like Gerano, Wow,

477
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: So who do you think it's crazier O d V

478
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: or DMX. I managed DMX. Now that's what I got.

479
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't look at it as crazy. I

480
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: mean I look at it as just passionate, just genius

481
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: they both. I mean, I mean I wish and I

482
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: told me like I would have loved to hurt a

483
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 1: conversation between the two of them of love that too.

484
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: But you got ten minutes to get one artist across

485
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: the street ten minutes, right, and I just missed just

486
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: for the rack of and you're gonna make ten million dollars.

487
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: So you got old and I'm left and you got

488
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: damn not tying buck. They're both engaged in having fun

489
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: as it ticks around and like that. But there's one

490
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: person you gotta get across, just between the two of them,

491
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: between the twur the I would have probably had to

492
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: go with Dirty. I mean, he was already easy. So

493
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: you're saying Dirty is easier to work with the GMx. No,

494
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. Well, I'm

495
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: saying because he was already in the group, so it's

496
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: kind of like a team player already. I mean it

497
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: was just like I already had that relationship with them,

498
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: So it's easy. Okay, it's easy. Okay, Because let me

499
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: just tell you something, Steve. You've worked with Pun Pun Pun,

500
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: you worked with Faginal, you worked with some of the

501
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: wildest boys, like you know what I mean, dead Press exhibit,

502
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god, alcoholics. They're still crazy to this day. Yeah. Like,

503
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: there's there's people that people won't even be around, and

504
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: you just did great this six do six Monthfia just

505
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: had DJ um. Yeah, so like, um, like you talk

506
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: the business with hip hops elite but also hip hop's

507
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: elite crazies. I was crazy, goddamn make some noise. So um,

508
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: you andle are getting back to that for a second,

509
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: right nearly or cool. It's just you know, there's there's

510
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: but you know you're is about We are in his

511
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: team and you know what. I respect, But it's like

512
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: fun everybody else, right, I respect that. Yeah, not as concerts.

513
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: You're doing. This is the second one of this is

514
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: the first is the first one. It's the first one

515
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: because you do so we're gonna do We were gonna

516
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: do it at the Predential Center in New York, in

517
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: New York, Okay, And my heart really was like my

518
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: dream was always Radio City. So um when Radio City

519
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: came available, Wow, congratulations I pulled it from the Predential Center. Mhmm.

520
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: You're coming right, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm definitely gonna try

521
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: to make it happy. We need Yeah, listen, man, I

522
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: think I think, for for one, I think that this

523
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: is so important. I think that you're setting another trend

524
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: the same way you did with the street teams, the

525
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: same street team, the same way you did with Loud

526
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: the same way you did with in the If out

527
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: the Box thinking with signing people like I think this

528
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: is it as well. I commended because the thing is

529
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: your legacy is so rich like Loud um um. I

530
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: I feel sorry for sometimes for this generation when I

531
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: look at this generation and they don't have powerhouse like Alloud,

532
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: and they don't have that rich history where you know,

533
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: back then being from the hood and going to a

534
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: record label, it was like going to paradise. Like even

535
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: though like you're still in Chinatown or some ship, you

536
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, You're not like lug of your

537
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: part of the city, but just being out of the

538
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: city and just I mean being out of the hood

539
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: and just opportunity to being an opportunity to being able

540
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: to sit down and smoke weed and get a haircut

541
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: at the record label. Like and I'm I feel sorry

542
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: that they don't really have that no more, like you

543
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like at home feeling like you know,

544
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: when I remember, you know, seeing having and being they

545
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: would just be happy to go to a Loud. Don't

546
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: go to LOUD. I'm like, oh ship, Like what the

547
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,239
Speaker 1: is that? A club like that? That's how happy they

548
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: were like that they their their album came out. I

549
00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: shut the office stand, we go want to the park

550
00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: to playball. God damn, this is the CEO of a

551
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: c You can see yourself down like an artist friendly

552
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: CEO because the CEOs don't funk with artists at all.

553
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: And then this CEO is that this CEOs like, I know,

554
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: I'm getting locked up. Call him bro. I never get

555
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: to myself as CEO. I always consider myself the artist first,

556
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: and I think that's why the labels were probably always

557
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: always scanted me, because I'd ever looked at a budget.

558
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: It was like, if the artists really needs that, it

559
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: makes sense. All right, we'll going, you know, if it's

560
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: me sending rich or Jonathan on Mojo, like we're doing

561
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: whatever the funk we have to do to really to

562
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: get this stunt. That's well, and this will get back

563
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: to this concept you got, Mark d I got everybody.

564
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: Are you going to say, I'm so surprised as you've

565
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: got Come on, come on, let's tell us though, I mean,

566
00:32:52,920 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: are you committing? This is just no because I really

567
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: wanted people to come out. Um, I forget who's on

568
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: the list that you got that I got everybody why

569
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: I got woo wow. And when you say wotan clan,

570
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: you ain't talking about got will you one of the

571
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: people in the world again? One of them won the phone?

572
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: He wasn't you manage her? Who tang too? Before we go?

573
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: Not really mad? I mean me and Rizrael like brothers.

574
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, Divine is the manager. Okay, okay, okay,

575
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: well my mom and hopefully there'll be special guests doing prodigies.

576
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: I might come out to give it up, give it

577
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: up too much that I would. I would. Um, Joe

578
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: and Remy are doing punk, Okay, I could do both sets. Yeah,

579
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: Steve managing me right now, you're working both. Let's go

580
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: dead President m op alcoholics, alcoholics Exhibit pretty six Fox,

581
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: Pete Rock. Um, I'm trying to see what other label,

582
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: other label can pull this all. I don't think so.

583
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: And this is a tour, Let's be clear. I don't

584
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: know if it's a toy yet. We're gonna see how

585
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: the first one goes. No, it's a tour. Steve could

586
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: be a great tour, but he's being careful. Get me wrong.

587
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,919
Speaker 1: It's a headache talk because this is like a venue tour.

588
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: This is uh, this is a summer jam tour like

589
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: but this could be just could be a festival. That's

590
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: that's what I'm that's that's what I'm trying to get that.

591
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. Um no, we got everybody and

592
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: the surprise guess are gonna be the surprise guys? Right?

593
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: Holy ship? Elliott Wilson Okay, tell yeah, I ain't answering

594
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: this question. He got her line, um so um so,

595
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: so you you don't think I think it's I think

596
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: it could be a tour. I think it would be

597
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: a tour. I think it definitely could be a talk right,

598
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: but let's you know, because because who who by themselves?

599
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: Like I'm not gonna lie. I had to show what

600
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: Wu Tang San Diego and that was one of the

601
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: aircraft carriers. Yes, and oh my god still to this day,

602
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: like I still like getting straight fan more like when

603
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: I start seeing them like and then it's crazy because

604
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: you know they're older now and you know before they

605
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 1: used the clash on stage and like and now they're older,

606
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: like so they like they know exactly where to be

607
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: on stage at with time, and it's like it's like

608
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: why for me, it's like watching the four Tops. So

609
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: you know, like like you know, the Temptations or something

610
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, But our version of

611
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: the tempt tastes because they're not you know, dancing and

612
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: holding the mic and thrown it on the floor and

613
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: bringing it back up. But it's our version of that,

614
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I love to see it

615
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: like we did Australia a year ago, okay, at at

616
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: the City our pre house, and I mean it just

617
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: worked a perfection. I mean, mm hmm. That is that

618
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: is that? Is that your favorite group you ever discovered?

619
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: I know you can't say that. I mean, I mean

620
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: it's your most proud moment. You know, we can't love

621
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: change more than the other. But you know, you know

622
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 1: there my first child there on my first plaque, okay, um.

623
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: And you know with with the guys, I you know,

624
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: I have a relationship with all of them. You know,

625
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: me and Matth have the same birthday, so you know, um,

626
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: me and still talk to three times a week. Me

627
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: and Ray talk twice someone. Um so I see Matth

628
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 1: give Mike Kaiser um dust Andrew Dust. It was the

629
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: funniest thing in the world, he said. It was the

630
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: funniest thing in the world. He was out in Vegas

631
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: and you know, this is the time, and my guys

632
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: were still like friends, Like he smokes weel and ship

633
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: like that, and Math said, you'll Norri, don't smoke that

634
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: blood said what he said? Everything else a little this one.

635
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 1: So I said, you know what I'm smoking that, Yeah,

636
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: say with it. I was a little mos and white

637
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: guys that gave over. He had the blood and boy,

638
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: it was a different thing. Man, is I'm gonna let

639
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: you know my kind I got you. I'm not gonna

640
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: blow it up my fellow, my brother I got But

641
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: do you ever realized that, um, what is it called fraternity?

642
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: Like you know, in college, you know, you guys go

643
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: to you know, they do all this ship. But years

644
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 1: later that's what a fraternity is. Years later they come

645
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: and they see each other and they look out for

646
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 1: each other. I feel like hip hop is finally at

647
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: the stage of becoming a fraternity. Like if I was

648
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: ever walk in the hotel and I was to see

649
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: so Pepper, my first thing is let me make sure

650
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: they okay, as opposed to like, yeah, you know what

651
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like I'm automatically protective do you feel like

652
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: hip hop is becoming this fraternity? I think it's been

653
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: for a minute. I think it would be Okay, Okay,

654
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: that's great. Even even with the divisions of the generations,

655
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: it seems like like one thing is So for example,

656
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: what why did you feel that right now was the

657
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: time to do this concert? Was there a reason for it?

658
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: Just came together that way? I saw a puff through

659
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: his show which we were at the we were in

660
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 1: the one in Vegas, right, right, So I went to

661
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: the show in l A. And it blew my mind away,

662
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: like literally just blew my mind with it. I'm coming

663
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: off a heart attack, like and I'm watching this. And

664
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: I remember texting him the next morning and saying, I

665
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: saw Michael Jackson perform at the Apolo first time. After

666
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: We've got to get back to this, right, so James Brown, right,

667
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: and and I said, Pop, I've never seen a show

668
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: like this in my life. And I said, I wonder

669
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: if I could do it? And this was three years ago.

670
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: So I had a heart attack, you know. So I'm

671
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: just getting you know better, And then you know, I

672
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 1: started working with you, So you know that took some time,

673
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: and then the opportunity of this just Kane. So it's

674
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: like a legacy show for you. I mean that's what

675
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: I think that the Bad Boy one was a legacy thing.

676
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: I mean this is this is more like when you

677
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: said it's like I never took the time to smell

678
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: the roses. Did Yeah, I believe I agree with you. Right,

679
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: So I think this one I'm patting myself on the

680
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: back and saying, hey, alright, look what it was, right,

681
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: but it was, but it was puff show that really

682
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: jumps off. Yeah. But I think I think this is

683
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: definitely a tour. I think that um, we've interviewed everybody

684
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: from like uh that press to having Pete Rock, Um

685
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: obviously Wu Tang and um everyone always salute to as

686
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: the you know, the o G the guy that you know,

687
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: the CEO that was for the artist, you know what

688
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 1: I mean. So I feel like I feel like everyone

689
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: will come together and just be like, yo, man, let's

690
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: get like you know, I don't want to say like

691
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: like the last Hurrah, but like you remember how the

692
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 1: Wayne way he did the last you know, the man

693
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: and the last stance. Like I feel like this is

694
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: for Loud, you know what I'm saying, Like for Loud,

695
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: I think everyone will come together. You know we really

696
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: for for artist. I mean, I gotta arrest it before

697
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: throwing a chair through a glass door. Um, it happens

698
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: for fighting for wou Tank getting the money that I

699
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,479
Speaker 1: felt they deserved a video, not not for a video.

700
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,439
Speaker 1: It was the renegotiation. It was for Rae Kwon solo

701
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: record for Human Links, and it was for the wou

702
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 1: Tank Forever album. So with our c A and I

703
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: say dollars apart, I just give him the fucking money.

704
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: And the business fans was a woman and she said,

705
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: Stephen Riffin, I'm tired of your ship. I've never hit

706
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: a woman in my life. But I took this chair

707
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: and if I was facing this way with thirty six

708
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: fours and it's going on Broadway, and I turned it

709
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 1: around and I threw it through the glass door. Thirty

710
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: six blows. You're taking the thirty six. So you know,

711
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:57,439
Speaker 1: the cops came, security came. Wow, that's great, that's great,

712
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 1: that's great. Um, what do you feel about like the

713
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: Me Too movement? Like because like you know, they got

714
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: russelled like in Tahiti somewhere right now, they got him

715
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 1: in Ted, he got himself. That's my man, but like, like,

716
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: what do you feel about that? Like, like I don't

717
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 1: I've personally see Russell be loose, but I've never seen

718
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: him like the ship come on, like him raping somebody.

719
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see that. I don't see what

720
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: going on man um. I mean, Russell is like a

721
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: brother to me, right, So you know, I wasn't around

722
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: when you know, telling people are pressing trash from thirty

723
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: five years ago, Like who the funk even remembers thirty

724
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: five years that's crazy. So it was like, you know,

725
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: he was always like even when he was when we

726
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: had the Jimmy Spice record on my dad's Like, I mean,

727
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: he was crazy, but he was always polite and just

728
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 1: like you know, like Bill Cosby. I've seen some ship

729
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 1: with Bill, Like you know what I mean, I ain't

730
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 1: come on like Russell. Just Russell wasn't drug duging, like

731
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: I don't see that, Like but Bill was slipping pills

732
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: and she's like he got a little I ain't bills

733
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: found Nick. I tell I'm just leave that alone. But so,

734
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: but you have DAYD Gabriel Union. No, it wasn't Gabriel, No,

735
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: it wasn't everybody. I know somebody and lacoln I was good.

736
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: I was I'm going to live. Yeah, I thought it

737
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: was both. No, no, God, it's just she's like a sister.

738
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: She induced me later, that's art. She's a beautiful girl.

739
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: How how does that happen? I mean, how didn't happen

740
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: to me? He was pret this is pretty like TMZ

741
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 1: days too. If you did eat you up in the

742
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: TMZ days. No, they killed me, they killed you. Yeah,

743
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: they killed him out. That was like because I just

744
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: got out of my marriage and it was like they

745
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: called her a home record and ship like that, and

746
00:42:56,160 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: it was just like, get out there. Yeah, she wasn't

747
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: home record. That's just clear her the way you said.

748
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: You gotta say it with more basic please all right? Cool,

749
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: So making up you're cool, but you're still cool, man,

750
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: very cool. She's cool with my ex wife. Oh yeah.

751
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: And at one point you left your wife and you

752
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: um too. You took it down puffs like a maid

753
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 1: or something like that. Right, you like, man, listen, But

754
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: Stephen lived a life man in the same way I

755
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 1: get rappers here and fair like you know, I listen

756
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: listen as a married man. I admire when people were

757
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: singing there days of being single and having fun because okay,

758
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 1: don't worry. But you know that's kind I mean, the

759
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: issue was, you know, I funked up. You know, oh shit,

760
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: I didn't expect that. When I was single, I didn't

761
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: have money. So you know, when these records started coming

762
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: to check started coming, crazy ship change CEO checks is

763
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: different talk. As I started with the BMG checks BMG,

764
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,760
Speaker 1: I just look at it. Let go. I just felt

765
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: freaking like that we have used them because now now

766
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: they believe you, right, because like now they didn't have

767
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: a choice, they didn't have fucking I mean, now we

768
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: just put them in the I mean it was just

769
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: like they knew when I threw the chair, they knew

770
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: I wasn't playing. Yeah. But but at one point, I

771
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: remember fact Joe I said like, yo, man, I'm going

772
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: on private jet with Steve River. And I was like,

773
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: what the funk recently me back then, like I remember

774
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: at one point you was taking private jet. So Quincy

775
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: Jones termed me on to the pract of plants. I

776
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 1: love how he his name dropped. Game is so nice,

777
00:44:55,600 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: you know, Quincy Jones Jones, I was like, I goes

778
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: a little bit, you know through the marketing company. I

779
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: was in something Quincy's label in my mind. You you

780
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: you're speaking to Quincy Jones. I was drinking a glass

781
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: of wine and he said, what are you doing up

782
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 1: commery show. No, this is imagining. I could me and

783
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:23,919
Speaker 1: my fiance, I'm talking about our wedding day and clost

784
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: in the house called Rings and it's Quincy and I

785
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: remember this like it was yesterday. He goes, hey, Steve,

786
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: it's cute. I'm like, oh, he was cute. And I

787
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: gotta and not an email. Brett Ratt and called me,

788
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,919
Speaker 1: who made the introduction, goes, Quincey is gonna be calling

789
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: you man, name dropping, right, So Brett goes, Quincy is

790
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: gonna be calling you just he want to talk to

791
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: you help him consult his label. So he calls me

792
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 1: and he goes, what are you doing tomorrow night? Like

793
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. He goes, have been with me. He goes,

794
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: We're going to just place called Dre's. The finest women

795
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: are finest women in l A would be there. Okay,

796
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: I thought Dreves was in Vegas, but this, yeah, this

797
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: is it was last thing and I gotta relaxed, and

798
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: we just listened okay. So, um, I got me Quincy

799
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: and it's like love at first sight, like then the woman.

800
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: It's me and Quincy and like ten women, I mean,

801
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: one more beautiful than the other. Because I want to

802
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: bring you in as a consultant. He goes, what are

803
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: you doing next Monday? Next Tuesday, and I said nothing,

804
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: goes come to Chicago with me. I'm doing open and

805
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: I'm showcasing my new brand new waters. To me, new

806
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: brand of water, no new artists, okay, to me brand water. Okay. So, um,

807
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: I end up in Chicago with Quincy. You have flu together. Yeah,

808
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: on his plane to Chicago and I was like, just

809
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: as you said, no more, no more American, I mean

810
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 1: see you later. United took goodbye. So for two years,

811
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:09,439
Speaker 1: whenever wherever Quincy went, I went, and it was just well,

812
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: so he taught me how to play with money. Wow,

813
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: and that's where you private change. Yeah. So I was like, well,

814
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: like I think when the Sony check came then I

815
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: was like, funck y'all, this is that Joel's questions. Joel said, um,

816
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: let me just pull up it's questions. So you know

817
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: when I that's when I do interviews. He says, how

818
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: much dough did he blow? And then how big of

819
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 1: a deal did he do with Sony? Because that must

820
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: have been your that must have been your fuck you moment.

821
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: That was a real fuck you moment, fuck you moment.

822
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: This makes a moist of I could imagine, Thank you Tommy,

823
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: get him on drink champs too. So this is this

824
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: is after whoop tang works, this after everybody works. Everybody works.

825
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: Now you have a choice to go anywhere in the world.

826
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: But because it isn't r c a um, wasn't that

827
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 1: merged into the same Sony system? Not yet? Alright, So

828
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: break so breaking down. So Jimmy Ivy was my mentor,

829
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: and he's so and he's paying me a shipload of

830
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: money to consult, to consult Jesus at least getting money

831
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: for everywhere Steve. So all Jimmy Captain saying to me

832
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: is fuck the bottom line and just think about the

833
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:44,720
Speaker 1: top line. Right. So Quincy told me about planes, Jimmy

834
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: told me about the chef and the driver. Jesus, they

835
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 1: teach you how living life. None of these type of friends.

836
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: So did you have me? And you gotta make it develops.

837
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 1: You gotta way better friends. And I'm just like g So,

838
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: I have a meeting with Strauss ell Nic and Pete

839
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: Jones Strasonic was the CEO and b MG and Pete

840
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: Jones was send Um Distribution and they said, you know,

841
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: we need more profits from you, and I said, I'm

842
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: not gonna do more profits. I'm I'm building these fucking artists.

843
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: Fuck you like whatever happens happens. And the next day

844
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 1: my locals, you know, they're willing to let you go.

845
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: Who's what? Who's saying that when this you go? My

846
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: attorney called me. He said, they're willing to let you go. Whoa.

847
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: So it's Clyde Davis is free Grammy Part. I walk

848
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: in there and it was like the red So you

849
00:49:55,800 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: opened up like every like everybody just came at me.

850
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,439
Speaker 1: You know, Tommy this one, that one. And I didn't

851
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: say a word you because I didn't even know, like

852
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: because you're going too crazy for listeners. I mean say

853
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: time you gotta say Tommy with Tommy say dull, you

854
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 1: gotta say. They're just thinking like it's dolls from down

855
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 1: to black and like the don't so to the university.

856
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,760
Speaker 1: Um So, every CEO of every music group is calling

857
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: and they're kissing my ass during the whole fucking night, right,

858
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: I didn't have a chance to tell my wife him.

859
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: So she goes, what the fund is going on? I'm like,

860
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: I said, I'll tell you when I get home. So

861
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: I picked time because what they based on the meetings

862
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: or no, So because you took everyone's meeting, I took

863
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: everybody's meeting. Um, my first choice was really Jimmy, and

864
00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: but I don't know, something was up whatever. I think

865
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: Jimmy was maybe redoing his deal or whatever. And I

866
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: was like nah, and master P was really blowing up

867
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 1: at that time. Priority Yeah, I mean he was just

868
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: blowing I mean everything that he put out, I mean

869
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: was going on planet. And I was like what, like,

870
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 1: how the fun is he doing? I mean I know

871
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 1: how he was doing it, but I wanted to see

872
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 1: with my own eyes. So I went on a toy

873
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: bus for six weeks, no by myself and I and

874
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: I just did the South and just trying to get

875
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: what are you trying to get a field of, like

876
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: what the fund is really going? So three six Mafia

877
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: was signed to Relativity and every and everybody everywhere that

878
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: I went to was Alan Groenluck involved in that deal.

879
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: I'm sure he was people's on Relativity to in the beginning. Yeah,

880
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: so I was. But everybody everywhere I went, everybody started

881
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 1: talking about the next thing topop, this three six mafia.

882
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: So when me and Tommy had a meeting, he was

883
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: who do you want to be at Columbia Epic? I said,

884
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: I want Relativity? Wow, and he looked at me like

885
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 1: I was on crack. You wanted to acquire Relativity. So

886
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: so we didn't acquire it, but we emerged. It was

887
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: the first time got into music business where you being

888
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: with Sony to do that move. I had lab right,

889
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: so what b MG out? So now I want I

890
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: emerge woud into Relativity. So now we're the third major.

891
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: So that's how you suggested, okay now, and I didn't

892
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 1: really was three six and you were one of the

893
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: first labels too. Besides obviously priority of master p to

894
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: see that future in the South. Yeah. Well he was

895
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: the first one. He was the first one. God bless,

896
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: Holy Moly Guacamoa. This is history right here, man, this

897
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: is history. Sold. He emerged, we emerged, and then we

898
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: had one amazing year and then it just became too

899
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 1: corporate for me. Yeah, it was like quarterly numbers, this numbers,

900
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: that numbers, and I was miserable. Wow, wow, so what

901
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 1: that's that's when you so basically all right, so you're

902
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: saying you sold the company. Basically, yeah, sold the company.

903
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 1: And I had not worked for the company that I sold,

904
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: and so like so Russell, like for instance, Russell, I

905
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: think Russell had to do that with Deaf Well Russell's

906
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: I mean stayed leg became the CEO of right, so

907
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: and you hated it. You hated because of your face,

908
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: trying to convince him and be like, no, don't say that,

909
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 1: and he's not. So I remember going to Hawaii with

910
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: my son and my wife and I said, I think

911
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna send Time in with Toller back his money

912
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: ship and I'm just gonna leave, right And I'm playing ball,

913
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: and I see these big to samoans coming running to

914
00:53:55,600 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: the courts were tribe was there, and nobody knew or

915
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 1: I was except for my mother. Um, and I'm like

916
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: something somebody died, right, And they said, you have an

917
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: emergency on the mainland. So I called my office and

918
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:20,720
Speaker 1: they just sent me straight to rich Yeah, and Bridge

919
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: said Punt had a heart attack or he's not dead yet,

920
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:28,439
Speaker 1: So I called Joe and just as I called Joe,

921
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:33,240
Speaker 1: he just passed. And in my mind I was retirement.

922
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 1: I think I was going to move to Hawaii. And

923
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: I just got back from the wife to say the

924
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: two that's crazy. That's why this story is sucking me

925
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 1: up in a different way. But I continue. So I am,

926
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, who knows? And Joe said nobody said, I'm

927
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: gonna call Angie because you know she was part of

928
00:54:55,400 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: terrof spot in a crazy Martine Andrew Martine. Yeah, Um,

929
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: I called the Angie. I told him, and I just

930
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: like the letter that I wrote Tommy, I ripped up,

931
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: jumped on the plane, dropped everybody off in l A

932
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 1: and I watched, you know, straight to New York. But

933
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: I didn't retire, but so I stayed there another to

934
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: three years. But and you know, speaking on that, you know,

935
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: Punt was like our closest friend, was one of our

936
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 1: best friends. Um, I mean, you guys had that amazing

937
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: record together. Yeah we have, we have. Yeah, but guys

938
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: that you came up video yeah yeah, yeah, I'll tell

939
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: you so that thank you for because I was about

940
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 1: to go, thank you, thank you, Steve. You know, I

941
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 1: was about to go like, you know, depressing, Yeah, depressing,

942
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,399
Speaker 1: and he just let me tell you something about that video.

943
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: The reason why you guys had a two hour overridge

944
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,280
Speaker 1: on the video is because you remember the guy jumps

945
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: from the thing. You know, Punny really wanted to do that.

946
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,439
Speaker 1: So the whole time punts like one's like, I don't

947
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 1: even know stunt man and he's got me over there.

948
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 1: He's like, right, Nori, and I'm like, fun, you know,

949
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: you don't want to say right, because I know my

950
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: friend is over When you can't jump over the fucking building,

951
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: you know what's up on the building? He jumps over,

952
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: So they so they have a stunt man there to

953
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 1: do it. And the stuntman is like a hundred pounds

954
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: like and punts like he's not gonna look like me,

955
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:22,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it, And he kept trying to say

956
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: your Nori, tell him that I could do it, and

957
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, there's no way you're gonna give you. But

958
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: that's the that was the craziest funny part. So if

959
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: you ever remember you had guys that like two hours

960
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 1: over it, because I was sitting there like, nah, man,

961
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 1: I can't I can't allow you to do it Pump,

962
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: but Pump was punting. Really. You know. The beautiful thing

963
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 1: about Punt is being a celebrity. He loves being a celebrity.

964
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 1: And he never felt big, like he moved like he

965
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 1: was lighted in. Everyone in this place like, I kid

966
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 1: you not okay, So I'll tell you a great story,

967
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 1: please still not a players blowing up, blowing up. He

968
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: comes back from you know, doing the show. He buys

969
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: himself with the most beautiful Cuban link bracelet. That's a

970
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: big punish it and I was like, wow, show money

971
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: really must be mad. He said, this bracelets beautiful. Right.

972
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: He goes if he goes, if we go platinum, I'm

973
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: gonna get you one. I go punt the shipping platinum. Right.

974
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: He goes to me. I'm like, now we'll be at

975
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: two million in a week, right, And I'm not thinking anything.

976
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: So it's like, if we do four million, you know,

977
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: you can get me something. And I'm working around, not

978
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: even thinking. Cut to a year and a half day

979
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: that we hit the four million rom that you know,

980
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: whatever it is, and the guy don't even grow Hunter,

981
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 1: who was our product manager, walks into my office. He goes,

982
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: Punt wants to see you today, m to discuss the

983
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: next album. So I'm like, all right, So I called Joe.

984
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, it's a cool pun wants to come in.

985
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: He goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, comes in and I'm sucking

986
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: around with him. I'm like, you know what, you gave

987
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: me your word. You're gonna buy me a fucking Cuban

988
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 1: link bracelet. You know when we went before me and

989
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: we're at four point three and you don't have ship,

990
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I gave you my word reach just out

991
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: of packet, goes fucking mother and he throws this box,

992
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: you know, all all wrapped up with the most beautiful frame,

993
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: like in a in a in a box with my

994
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:22,439
Speaker 1: name on it, all diamonds. Damn. It makes it looks

995
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: so um, you know, not to like, you know, be

996
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 1: all like you know, but from puning you have to

997
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 1: speak about prodigy, Like where where was you at? You

998
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: got dad news? I was here, My daughter was Miami,

999
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: you say here before I was in four, I was

1000
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: in Florida, right, so yeah, my daughter was taking a

1001
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: road test complex and rich Eyes is kept on calling me,

1002
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 1: and I'm like, all right, something, I mean he's calling

1003
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 1: me like four times in a row. So it's the

1004
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: videos of bad news and I don't want to hear

1005
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 1: any thing until I see her. And he texted me,

1006
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: called me now urgent, Rich Rich, So I see my

1007
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 1: daughter coming in from taking her road tests and she passed.

1008
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, now I'm on the phone with Rich. You guys,

1009
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: are you sitting down? I'm like, funk, what's just right?

1010
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,439
Speaker 1: And I'm not sitting down. I go, what's the matter?

1011
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: He was? He died and she's walking in and I

1012
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: can't tell she passed and not passed. But I'm a

1013
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 1: sterical crying now and she passed. I couldn't really enjoy that,

1014
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: but it was just that was a hard one. Now

1015
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: I gotta be wound a little more. Apologies, but we're

1016
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: all on the subject. Now, your first group, your first sons,

1017
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 1: you like, you know, the first like you know child,

1018
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: it was like a Wu Tang clan. You know, you

1019
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: got cappadatta that went away or whatever. But the passing

1020
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 1: of od B comes home. He wasn't quite like Wu

1021
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 1: tan clan. When he came home. He was quite like

1022
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 1: like you would tell he was in like a confused state.

1023
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: And I want to say because I don't want to

1024
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: say he was Rockefeller or any of that. I just

1025
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: want to say that, you know, he just came home.

1026
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: He wanted to be in itself, but then he that

1027
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 1: he passes away, that has has to be there. So

1028
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 1: I'm flying. I'm flying to New York at m I

1029
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 1: land the second I put on my phone from the

1030
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 1: plane the way, I don't have LAD at the time anymore.

1031
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: Now I have SEC records, right, and a kind of

1032
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: is blowing the funk up at the same banners on it.

1033
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 1: It's locked up. So the vine calls wan and too

1034
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 1: dirty just past twenty minutes ago, my gel, he says,

1035
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:59,919
Speaker 1: the studio. So I just went straight to the stud

1036
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 1: you his body was still that god damn like you know,

1037
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: um for people like who's CEOs, for people who's rappers,

1038
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 1: and people are just human beings like because you you

1039
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 1: you attached to this is not like you. You're not

1040
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 1: You're not one of those. I'm not comment with Toller.

1041
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 1: I'm not dug monst. I mean, you know, you know,

1042
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 1: you know without saying that, let me because you know,

1043
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: sometimes the audience might not understand that what I'm saying

1044
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 1: is you're human, like like you're a person that's involved,

1045
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 1: like you're not You're not looking at a person like

1046
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 1: there's numbers. So dealing with that, like how do you

1047
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 1: cope every day? Like like you know what I mean

1048
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 1: because I can imagine your artists, was your friends as well.

1049
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 1: I mean all of it really just just I mean,

1050
01:01:52,400 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 1: it takes and then you know, um, you know, dealing

1051
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: with the Punt that stayed and you know, you know unifact,

1052
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 1: Joe was one of my best friends and you know,

1053
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 1: like how did that just feel? Like you know what

1054
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,439
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like saying, well, Punt was signed to Joe,

1055
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 1: so I never me and Punt had a relationship, but

1056
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 1: all business stuff. I dealt with Joe on the attorneys right,

1057
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 1: so you know. And the thing is, Joe gets a

1058
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 1: bad rap, you know for what people say, you know

1059
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 1: what you did with Punt, but it's really not true.

1060
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 1: But that's real ship. So I mean he treated Punk

1061
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: like a brother. I know, true Punk got everything that

1062
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 1: he deserved. Yeah I know that, I know that, but

1063
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 1: when I when I say it makes me feel like

1064
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:44,919
Speaker 1: it just because you know, brother, Yeah, like I'm buying

1065
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 1: So that's why you I mean that was him, like

1066
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 1: you know, he said that you know what I mean.

1067
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 1: But Steve Man, I just want to um, I just

1068
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: want to reiterate you know how great you are Man.

1069
01:02:56,760 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 1: I appreciate UM. I know you for years and whenever

1070
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 1: I had one of your artists on the record, or

1071
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 1: whenever UM your artists, I've seen see you an out

1072
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 1: and dinner, it's just Steve always he's the greatest places

1073
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 1: in the world. You know what I'm saying. I don't

1074
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:13,919
Speaker 1: know if I see you and you always kept your word,

1075
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 1: and I just want to salute you for that. You

1076
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I want to salute you back

1077
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 1: when you was the when you was like you know,

1078
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 1: coming up in the game to the biggest in the game,

1079
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 1: to still like just maintain that your your your your bigness.

1080
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 1: He was always has been a person of your world.

1081
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 1: So now what is it? We got the concert? What

1082
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 1: is the next? And we can understand you're managing DMX

1083
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 1: as First of all, how is dm Max? He's good?

1084
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 1: He's good, He's good? Is he is? He okay? And

1085
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 1: he's on def JAM right, he's on def JAM. That's

1086
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 1: the beautiful thing that makes me d back. He's what

1087
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 1: depth jam? Um? I hear other podcasts critique you, and

1088
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 1: I hear other podcasts like, you know, actually diss you,

1089
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna just tell you something there. I disagree

1090
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 1: with those podcasts in totality. The fact that you guys

1091
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 1: Dot L L cool J and d M Mex back

1092
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 1: on your roster. To me, that's kind of like dope,

1093
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: Like that's like loud starting to get with utank Klan.

1094
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 1: I would love that Paul's at the realm of so

1095
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 1: Paul at is that the real richest number two Paul, right,

1096
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 1: so pick him up. Even though I heard he's not

1097
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 1: fans of us, It's okay, really not in a bad way,

1098
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 1: not in a bad way. He just you know, he

1099
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 1: just don't want him to come on because we're smoking. Guy,

1100
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 1: Look Steve didn't smoking get high. We're having a great interview,

1101
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 1: a great example. I got a lot of He did

1102
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 1: not hate on us. I just heard he just you know,

1103
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 1: did block us. Okay, But Paul's a real hip hop

1104
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 1: pet guys back in the day, scam the guy he

1105
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 1: was just fall I respect to the fullest and then

1106
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 1: rich you know the pedigree. You know, it's like we

1107
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 1: both learned from my dad, right, so you know, even

1108
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 1: though you know he has thought Rich was Jonathan. Did

1109
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 1: you know the crazy ship? And I always thought Jonathan

1110
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 1: was Rich. That's the crazy thing. I was like Rich.

1111
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 1: So we all grew up around the corner from each other.

1112
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 1: This is Manhattan. No, this is a long hour. What

1113
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 1: part America? Listen to Merrick people? If you're American, y'all

1114
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 1: broken up? Yeah. So it's like we always had, you know,

1115
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 1: the dream, like all right, well all of it. You know.

1116
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 1: Rich was a lawyer by trade, went to law school,

1117
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 1: went to Ivy League school. Jonathan went to the University

1118
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 1: of Maryland. And it was always our dream to just

1119
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 1: always work together, like rock and Fellow, like like all

1120
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 1: these these great record labels. You are you a fan

1121
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 1: of these new record labels. I'm a fan of my

1122
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 1: son's new label. Oh what is that? My son has

1123
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 1: a jail through Atlantic quote chose chosen and and what's

1124
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 1: what think? His name is Alex, Alex Alex Ricky So

1125
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 1: and how he's doing it. He's taking a mixture of

1126
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 1: what's going on today, you know, digitally and then um

1127
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 1: my blueprint on how I did it. He's just signed

1128
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 1: al d Bastards. He just signed his kid out of Detroit, okay,

1129
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 1: which reminds you of an MP. You know, like he's

1130
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 1: on the road now, so it's like he's doing that.

1131
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 1: But then who like have conversations with SoundCloud, right that

1132
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 1: conversations with Spotify. But he's on the road, like he's

1133
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 1: living on the road away, I was living on the road.

1134
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 1: So the advice, so he did it at all. No,

1135
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 1: So he's a ballplayer. He played college ball, he played

1136
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 1: D one ball, everything, so he's taken. He took that

1137
01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 1: work ethic, that's all. He took that work echic, work

1138
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 1: ethic and and put it to you know, like with

1139
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 1: somebody on his team was like a producer. You guys,

1140
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 1: you know this kid has incredible beats. Just that whatever, right,

1141
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 1: And the smoke is not that's okay me like and

1142
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 1: it was like it's not him, it's a smoke from

1143
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 1: from lost so he um, you know. So I'm really

1144
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 1: like he took his basketball work ethic or a sports

1145
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: work ethic and and just like like he you know,

1146
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 1: when we announced the show, you just like hate dad.

1147
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 1: It would be nice if his new artists was actually bubbling,

1148
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 1: not to get out of Detroit, but the Southern Cadet

1149
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 1: in Sia. Can you open it? Can he be the

1150
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 1: first one to open up to show? Yeah, of course,

1151
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 1: you know so New Yorker Radio City Music Hall. Yeah,

1152
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 1: it was a great fucking opportunity. So but I'm really

1153
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 1: proud of what he's doing. And then you know, my

1154
01:07:56,600 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 1: youngest son, it's a rapper ballplayer. So he made a record. Um,

1155
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 1: he's gonna company when he sees this. But it was like,

1156
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 1: the kid can really fucking spit because why they don't

1157
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 1: They don't want to. Now he's still in high school.

1158
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 1: Like you know, his team is like top five in

1159
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 1: the country. Brianie's on his teams. He waits on it,

1160
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 1: you know. So it's like, because you ever heard of

1161
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 1: Rapper Russ had a rap a rapper rust and Rapper

1162
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 1: Russ got on him and he was because people his

1163
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 1: father was in the industry, so they called him my

1164
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 1: industry plan and he hated that, you know what I mean.

1165
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 1: He hated that. So you think your kids would think

1166
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 1: that that's not My kids are on nothing to do it,

1167
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,639
Speaker 1: like they're doing it all Like like I had ton

1168
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 1: of idea. Like when Ryan did this record and he

1169
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 1: did it with three of his friends, Alex called me

1170
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 1: because you hear the record. I'm like, what record? He goes,

1171
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 1: Ryan did the record this? And he goes, it's fire,

1172
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 1: sends me to record and I was like, holy ship,

1173
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 1: like the kids are like he I called him like

1174
01:08:55,000 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 1: Ryan who wrote? He goes either so you speak? Yeah, man,

1175
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 1: come on, let's get let's get a seat for John. Yeah,

1176
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 1: let's call Mr Leasey did you won? What about us?

1177
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 1: I think that's soon. Yeah, that's my older son. Cool.

1178
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 1: Do you mean the mike? Let's get him on min Yeah, Jonathan.

1179
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 1: You know there's a little shot where's Brandy ready left.

1180
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 1: He's land though, he's getting he's getting a signature, getting

1181
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 1: you're gonna happen. Randy might as one join come on.

1182
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this me and man,

1183
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 1: he would nes that's just camera hole. If we put

1184
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 1: him here this' that's too much guy. Yeah, it'll be

1185
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 1: all behind the scenes. Guys, that's what he says. That's

1186
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 1: the se guy that's in the sea. Nothing everybody not there.

1187
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 1: Let's make it work so he's comfortable when we can

1188
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 1: all look at each other's face. Oh damn, you just

1189
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 1: destroyed equipment. Actually, thanks, so leave didn't make sure that's

1190
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 1: a rock shine and to do stay too that we

1191
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 1: go because I've been getting pressure like like unbelievably like

1192
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 1: one more. Okay, man, don't taking this blind. Come on,

1193
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 1: come on, you're a legend, John, you gotta do it.

1194
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:45,640
Speaker 1: Come on, you gotta be a head to come on

1195
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 1: the all a legend. Let's do it. I should have

1196
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 1: to drink on drink, Champs. You should have a drink

1197
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 1: to drink. Come drinks. All right, let's go have a shot.

1198
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 1: Ye I don't really small every more of a drink

1199
01:10:56,160 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 1: that I'm not gonna lie. I'm still with little Wayne. Yeah,

1200
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 1: bumble bumbo. I had a great sleep this morning, but

1201
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 1: I did not diet at all. I woke up and

1202
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:14,679
Speaker 1: I eat like a motherfucking motherfucker. And I've been eating

1203
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 1: for two weeks. And I've been up the white where

1204
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 1: you said there I was. I didn't not me, bro,

1205
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna because I've been. I've been. I've been

1206
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:24,639
Speaker 1: the only thing you've been taking here, you know, I've

1207
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 1: been everywhere. The only place that I fucking I didn't

1208
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 1: enjoy was Hanno Lulu Bit because I went out there

1209
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 1: as I was performing. So I promised myself about to

1210
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 1: go back there, um, and I didn't. I played myself,

1211
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 1: so I gotta go back to honolulple. But mommy is

1212
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 1: my favorite. Yo, all eyes because you know I could

1213
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 1: bring my friends that you know on the run, you know,

1214
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 1: because I said that they can still go. Yeah, come on,

1215
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 1: we come. He's doing he's doing, Pie says, okay, free

1216
01:11:57,360 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 1: way for Usually we just go without what I've read it.

1217
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 1: I want this industry, talk on this industry. I want

1218
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 1: to be because e FN was the street team that

1219
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 1: you hire. That's here was our Miami guy. Yep, that's hard,

1220
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 1: that's hard. Did we high us? I'll tell you right now,

1221
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 1: trust me, he has at Okay, look he knows, he

1222
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 1: knows who it is. Watch this, he knows everything about it.

1223
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 1: Let's go. If wed be people Randy hand and we

1224
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:40,400
Speaker 1: want John the motherfucker perfect of the hand. Are you

1225
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 1: tell you what? You're ready? You got something? You want

1226
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 1: some cheese? I got some mac chees coming to all right,

1227
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 1: We're ready. We're back, motherfucking drink chap listen, so listen,

1228
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 1: so listen. We just broke in. Oh god day. I

1229
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 1: love Boris sometimes some talk bos sometimes I love most

1230
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 1: of this. But we got motherfucking Randy Acker here, we

1231
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:08,679
Speaker 1: got motherfucking Jonathan Rifkin here, and we got motherfucker's Steve

1232
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 1: Ripping here. These are the behind the scenes, are behind

1233
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 1: the scenes. So this is just I would like the

1234
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 1: call of people. This is a pure game right now?

1235
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 1: Do you understand pure game? Do you remember how louds run?

1236
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 1: And where were you out there when loud was just DESTROYINGO?

1237
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:32,600
Speaker 1: Was you the opposite side? I don't know if I

1238
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 1: was the opposite side. I feel like I was. Yeah,

1239
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:39,679
Speaker 1: before I was even in hip hop, I lived across

1240
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 1: the hall from Steve on Street when I was working

1241
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:46,799
Speaker 1: at SPK Records with p Cave and Allies and Wilson

1242
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 1: Phillips and teenage meeting Ninja Turtsy whoa wild pitch Pendulum

1243
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 1: Records at them across the hall from Steve. That's where

1244
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 1: I'm main sort. Yea, yeah, jeez, Louise, Papa, jeez. So

1245
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 1: how y'all said, Yea, y'all didn't know that y'all was

1246
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:10,760
Speaker 1: both in the music industry. We knew we did, but

1247
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:12,760
Speaker 1: I really wasn't in his part of the business. Then.

1248
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:14,839
Speaker 1: I was in e M. I I was in business affairs.

1249
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 1: I wasn't in Hippop, not until I got into death

1250
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 1: jam that. So he was on the appreciation for what

1251
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 1: he really had done. Right, So you used on the

1252
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 1: lawyer side at the time. We had literally each other, yes, okay,

1253
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 1: and you were and you knew it was popping. Yeah,

1254
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 1: he was. He was the guy I knew that. I

1255
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 1: just wasn't in it. I knew who he was for sure.

1256
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 1: So jeer, when was the first time you met Chris Lady?

1257
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 1: The first time at Chris Lady? Wow, UM had to

1258
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 1: be at seven forty one Broadway, eight forty Broadway, Um,

1259
01:14:56,320 --> 01:15:00,639
Speaker 1: that's that's that's the first first office UM in New York.

1260
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 1: And I think I met him with with I want

1261
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 1: to say, Peter Thomas. They were both how could I

1262
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 1: be down? I think they were both. They were both

1263
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 1: it's some way, shape or form. They were both working

1264
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 1: with Deft Jam and they were and they were they

1265
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 1: were up to the office. I don't know if they

1266
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 1: were together, but they were. I mean they were friends

1267
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 1: and Chris was, as you know, a great friend of mine.

1268
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:31,720
Speaker 1: I was going to actually the same question. Two were

1269
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 1: the first time you met Chris Lady? And then I

1270
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 1: would just see Chris everywhere. Um shot can introduced me

1271
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 1: to Chris Flavor Unit Flavor. We're at it. You don't remember, Yeah,

1272
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 1: my office, you know, like wow, you know like and

1273
01:15:54,560 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 1: then um we just developed for relationship. Was he the

1274
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 1: one who broke Deep? Wow? So he wasn't managing Mam

1275
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 1: Deep a woman by name of Tammy. I forget how

1276
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 1: last name brought me. Had you even heard that first

1277
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 1: album they did? The premier was Executive? Yeah, from the

1278
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:21,600
Speaker 1: back Yeah, and hasn't heard that in spof that's a

1279
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 1: hold on this story. When did you first meet Chris Lady?

1280
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:27,720
Speaker 1: I met Chris Lady won sixty Barracks sheet was six. Yeah,

1281
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 1: that is death jam. The first Deep Tong King is

1282
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 1: across the street, and the next building across the street.

1283
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:39,600
Speaker 1: That's probably like the ist like at that point the

1284
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 1: Arab that it was, it was bananas because Simmons I

1285
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 1: managed everybody, because Russell Management was in there as well.

1286
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 1: At that point, Violator had their label deal there. So

1287
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:56,680
Speaker 1: Chris was in the bats watch the department. But the

1288
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:59,760
Speaker 1: whole building was just out of control. I mean when

1289
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:03,320
Speaker 1: I'm really really I had met Chris, but he got

1290
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 1: into an altercation with one of the artists. He was

1291
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:12,920
Speaker 1: mistaken for being an artist brother, and it was that

1292
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:17,680
Speaker 1: was like not the first day I met him, but uh,

1293
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 1: it had started to develop a relationship after that, like

1294
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 1: we had talked, we know each other, but um, you

1295
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:28,679
Speaker 1: know because I had ended up working with X, which

1296
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 1: was very strange because I was a lawyer at def

1297
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:34,640
Speaker 1: JAM and then somehow, I don't know, I guess when

1298
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:37,680
Speaker 1: you're in a small company and it's exploding, it's all

1299
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:41,719
Speaker 1: you know, everybody does whatever needs to happen. At that point,

1300
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 1: EARV had to kind of, you know, go be with

1301
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 1: job a little more and there's no one really be

1302
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:48,560
Speaker 1: with X. And they were like, oh actor, you know

1303
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 1: the rough Riders. And I had no idea, but I

1304
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 1: just wet as this wet Chris was like he he's

1305
01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:01,840
Speaker 1: very mentoring, like he always was like very warm and

1306
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:04,800
Speaker 1: welcoming and opening and wanted to share game with me

1307
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 1: and with other people not just me. I mean I

1308
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 1: just found him to be like that, alight. So so

1309
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 1: so before we get crazy, UM, I still don't believe

1310
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 1: Chris killed this though. I just need your your opinion.

1311
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 1: What do you think? I mean, I know how much

1312
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 1: he loved those kids, right, yes, So, I mean we

1313
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 1: all have kids, and I just no matter how down

1314
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 1: you know, I could be, I mean I wouldn't. I mean,

1315
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 1: his kids were in his life. So so basically you're

1316
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 1: saying you're with me. You don't believe me killed though

1317
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 1: you think it's a conspiracy theory something where I spoke

1318
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 1: to him that that what the day that he's supposed

1319
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:55,560
Speaker 1: to kill hisself. Okay, you know what it was? I

1320
01:18:55,680 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 1: needed fifty for something, Yeah, okay, I think all right, so, um,

1321
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 1: these boxing promoters wanted to have a Floyd member the

1322
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 1: fight in the body and it would have been the

1323
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 1: biggest fight in the history of fights. Okay, and I

1324
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 1: needed fifty to get the Floyd. Wow. Sure, And you

1325
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 1: spoke to Chris that day. All right, Now, I've never

1326
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 1: heard this story. This is me, this is this is

1327
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 1: not even for me. This is me personally. He sounded

1328
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 1: like he was going to kill himself. Now he sounded

1329
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 1: like he was bad that then. I've never heard the stories.

1330
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 1: So this is you know that we had our laugh

1331
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 1: you guys, is that money to be made. I'm like,

1332
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 1: Chris would make my money on this one shot that

1333
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 1: we'll have to make it. Our lives because I just want,

1334
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 1: you know, to people to know that I've been saying

1335
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 1: this this. You know, I've been through doing this for

1336
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 1: four years consistently, we've been saying that. I've always said

1337
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 1: that I've never never believed that. Yet you know, I'm

1338
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:57,640
Speaker 1: glad that you know you didn't even know that and

1339
01:19:57,760 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 1: you're you're giving your side of the story, and that's

1340
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:01,720
Speaker 1: something awesome for me. Man, you know what I mean.

1341
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:05,880
Speaker 1: But but but in that note, we talked about Big Pun,

1342
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 1: we talked about Prodigy, we talked about where don't you

1343
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:12,639
Speaker 1: gonna say something about jay Z? So that we're coming

1344
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:14,759
Speaker 1: back to that. But I just wanted for our fallen

1345
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 1: shoulders everyone that we just talked from, everybody from louds

1346
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:20,720
Speaker 1: and everyone. We're gonna take a shot for them. Man,

1347
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 1: solo solo solo solo solo, and this is how do we?

1348
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 1: How do we wait? No more pronounced this boom combire.

1349
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:46,439
Speaker 1: I got two great press stories, so you met Okay, okay,

1350
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 1: you want to go to press story because I got

1351
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:49,600
Speaker 1: some car gate ship. I want to hit you with

1352
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 1: it because no, I didn't. I didn't manage kind of

1353
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 1: he was around him during the Make America had great

1354
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 1: wasn't something with merge. No, No, it ran like, oh

1355
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 1: that's right, but it was all because I don't know you,

1356
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:08,599
Speaker 1: was you I'm not gonna make America great. I'm gonna

1357
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 1: make America great, but in my way, yes, yes, it's

1358
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 1: not maga exactly. I'm gonna tell you something about Kanye.

1359
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:17,160
Speaker 1: I love him like a son. I love him like

1360
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 1: that's all. I want him to dispute my sneakers and

1361
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 1: they can only call me back. I mean, I don't know. Look,

1362
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 1: I want you to dispute my kid. He has a

1363
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:33,840
Speaker 1: he has a heart of goal, and Kanye when he

1364
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:37,639
Speaker 1: was wearing that, he doesn't want to be dictated to saying, hey,

1365
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 1: you gotta vote for Bob, you gott you know. So

1366
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 1: it's like he's his own man, so and he wants

1367
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 1: to make his choice. So whatever he says sometimes it's

1368
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 1: just it comes out of his heart the way he

1369
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 1: doesn't like. All right, let me bring it back and

1370
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 1: let let me say this movie. This guy has passion

1371
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:01,840
Speaker 1: like this no tomorrow. When me and him when our

1372
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 1: on different way, like and it was neutral, he goes,

1373
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 1: I want to take care of you for two years.

1374
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 1: Don't have to do that, like forty hours later, you know,

1375
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 1: like a severance package type of thick. Yeah, and I'm like, yeah,

1376
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:17,759
Speaker 1: just I'm here for you, just you know, whatever, whatever

1377
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 1: it is. Um. So when he wore the hat, I

1378
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 1: don't think he was doing it because he loves Trump

1379
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 1: so much. Because you remember the first picture it was

1380
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 1: it was him Lee or I took the picture, you know,

1381
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 1: Lucy and that's the guy from university. Oh my god,

1382
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 1: So did you know how this pictures are gonna go crazy? No?

1383
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 1: I wasn't even paying attention to the fucking act, right, Okay,

1384
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 1: So because he didn't see that use the shirt that

1385
01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:04,680
Speaker 1: he walked with free Laddy hoop, damn me, nobody saw that.

1386
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 1: No one's sold. Wow, that's you know cool. We have

1387
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 1: to put that picture up again. Even that out real quick,

1388
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 1: right yeah, okay, continue. So, I mean I think Kinnie

1389
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 1: doesn't want to make American read again, but his way,

1390
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 1: which you know, if he wants it to be a

1391
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 1: free America, right he you know, So it's not like

1392
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 1: I'm fort Trump. I mean, Trump just had that hat.

1393
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 1: I think Kindie is like, all right, let's your own mind.

1394
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 1: You can speak whatever the fun you want without worried

1395
01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 1: like so outrage culture. Ship is going crazy like so

1396
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 1: that's really what it was. But the two years that

1397
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 1: we were together, I mean they were I mean I

1398
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 1: worked for so you wasn't almost that ship. Naomi was Yomi.

1399
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:59,760
Speaker 1: Naomi wasn't wyoming for the album listing for the one

1400
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 1: just I would. It's not cool with me. I was

1401
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 1: not comfortable. So while so the first time was I

1402
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:16,200
Speaker 1: think in Jackson right where we had the the album.

1403
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 1: I like the fourth season, whatever, the four that's the

1404
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 1: only And then around three months ago he called. He goes,

1405
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:28,800
Speaker 1: if I send you a plane, it's not to send

1406
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 1: me send you a plane. Yeah, if I send you

1407
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 1: a plane, can you come see me. I need to

1408
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:39,640
Speaker 1: talk to you. Okay, it doesn't tell you where not

1409
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 1: with him? So UM sent me the plane. We had

1410
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 1: our lunch, we had on meeting, we spent the night,

1411
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 1: and I flew back the next morning. But he really is.

1412
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:55,599
Speaker 1: He's an amazing father. It's amazing. I think he's a genius.

1413
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 1: There's no let me tell you something. I went on

1414
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:04,400
Speaker 1: Nick Cannon's show, right asked me about the album, and

1415
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:06,600
Speaker 1: I can't like the album. I liked it, but you

1416
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 1: like it and you just you just feed me the

1417
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:11,040
Speaker 1: whole time. No, like so, like I just said I

1418
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 1: didn't like the album. So people thought that like I

1419
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:15,599
Speaker 1: was like being malicious about this kid. I didn't say

1420
01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 1: that at all. I didn't giving your honest why are

1421
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 1: you in that's this argument? Your opinion? You could have

1422
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 1: said I didn't like him, like it was something personal

1423
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:28,160
Speaker 1: for us, like Kanye his first daughter, his name, her

1424
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:31,680
Speaker 1: nickname is Nori, Like why would I ever like disrespect?

1425
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 1: But I just gave my honest opinion, like I'm honored.

1426
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 1: Like the first time I met Kim Kardashian, Kevin kr Um,

1427
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:40,760
Speaker 1: Kanye grab kicking on that Shi and walked to old

1428
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 1: over to me and said, this is who we named after, Nori.

1429
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 1: This is Nori I. This is real ship. Like this

1430
01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 1: is on the E Hollywood channel. They blocked my face

1431
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 1: out because I ain't signing off, But you didn't get

1432
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 1: about I was just I was just throwing off. I

1433
01:25:58,120 --> 01:25:59,760
Speaker 1: was like, what the fun is going on? I didn't

1434
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:01,640
Speaker 1: know you know what I mean? So like like it

1435
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:03,720
Speaker 1: was like yeah, like they when they even just in

1436
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 1: the job doc, I was like, watched on y'all is

1437
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:09,439
Speaker 1: one of the phone. But you know what I'm saying,

1438
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:12,599
Speaker 1: but what I'm gonna say is like I didn't mean

1439
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 1: it to be malicious when I said that, I just

1440
01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 1: disliked you just kick because I'm thinking this is a

1441
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:20,760
Speaker 1: superior Rapp album when this kind of was a goschool album,

1442
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 1: and that's cool. That's cool. If I was talking there

1443
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:26,360
Speaker 1: and they just took that line and just ran whateverything

1444
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 1: they never but happening. I was the other ninty nine

1445
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 1: episodes and Drink Chance. But I'm saying college drop out

1446
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 1: when I'm saying Kanye is a you know, I said

1447
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:38,160
Speaker 1: I vote for Kanye for president. They just took it.

1448
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 1: They just took that one sound bite. And I didn't

1449
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 1: mind because I seen beauty what's my man's name, um

1450
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 1: a Car's brother. I've seen people and I was I

1451
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 1: was like, what's up and he was like what's up?

1452
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 1: He said what's up? I was like, tell Kryea one

1453
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:55,960
Speaker 1: who on one drink Chance? And he looked at me like,

1454
01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 1: you know you don't want car And I'm looking like,

1455
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:02,400
Speaker 1: because this is this is technically I was having a

1456
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 1: conversation like we're not nothing's coming out of our mouths.

1457
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:09,680
Speaker 1: Like I said, yo to Kanye at one more. He

1458
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 1: looked at me like in our mind stopped talking. He said,

1459
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 1: you don't I said, I'm and he's looking at He's like, no,

1460
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:23,680
Speaker 1: I heard what you said. One statement. This is in

1461
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 1: our minds. I don't even know what this really So

1462
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 1: you don't have the seen Watson Homes. I went to ball.

1463
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 1: Watching homes is a nobody knows what watching the homes

1464
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:41,479
Speaker 1: please pull it up, damn homes. I watched all though,

1465
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:44,800
Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, I watch all the

1466
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:48,720
Speaker 1: white movies, the white dumb movies, like like you know,

1467
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 1: the dumb and dumb mors. White watch it and watching.

1468
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 1: You don't know what I'm talking about. Now it's hum Yeah, yea,

1469
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 1: that ship is hilarious. I'm sorry I went too far.

1470
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 1: I went to so now Loud motherfucking Records. This motherfucking thing.

1471
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 1: You've been to, the bad Boy thing, it's this Loud Records.

1472
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:19,559
Speaker 1: A tour Randy Actor. This is a tour. Oh yeah,

1473
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:21,840
Speaker 1: I mean just that show he's doing. If you look

1474
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:24,280
Speaker 1: down the listures bestally want to get to say a

1475
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:26,559
Speaker 1: couple of prodsy verses. I think this is a toll

1476
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 1: tour with drink Champs a tax to it. I've heard

1477
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:37,800
Speaker 1: that it's right because I'm looking at the flies. There's

1478
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 1: no host to the drowning out the motherfucker, you know

1479
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 1: what I mean? Any kind what all my kids? Jonathan

1480
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 1: said he should take drink Champs on the road with

1481
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 1: the loud toll. We are together like we've been fits back.

1482
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:04,920
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you know. The crazy thing is

1483
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:07,800
Speaker 1: one of my best friends, one of my great friends.

1484
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:10,280
Speaker 1: It's Bust the Rhunds, right, and I funk with him

1485
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 1: every leg two or three months, right, Like somebody would

1486
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 1: ask me like the biggest bag where they be like

1487
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:17,880
Speaker 1: if you think Buster would take it? And I always

1488
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:19,800
Speaker 1: funk a Buster because I know he's never wanted to

1489
01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 1: do it. You know, I just trying to manage coom

1490
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 1: bust me. Let me just say something, my Buster, if

1491
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:27,160
Speaker 1: you want to be funny, this is my brother list.

1492
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:31,719
Speaker 1: This is the funniest joke. I won't deal with numbers,

1493
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:35,760
Speaker 1: but let's just say this is the number Buster one. Right,

1494
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 1: you would give Buster to that same number plus a

1495
01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:43,880
Speaker 1: little something. But if you say it's an old school

1496
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:50,639
Speaker 1: show you want to I don't know if it cool

1497
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 1: on the fund. I just sat you bring us to

1498
01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:58,439
Speaker 1: the the same bag. Baby one might be a little bigger,

1499
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:02,560
Speaker 1: but Buster feels like, nah, I'm not old school, so

1500
01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:06,439
Speaker 1: I never have to do an old school show. And

1501
01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:09,880
Speaker 1: that is the most honorable thing that I can tell you.

1502
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:14,559
Speaker 1: I'm gonna dude, like, that's honorable because me, I don't

1503
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:21,639
Speaker 1: want to give a fuck. Old schools above the thirty

1504
01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:31,800
Speaker 1: called me old nigger basic and take two. I was

1505
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 1: there with that generation because I'm in the empty light

1506
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 1: of them. I don't get but listen, lem tate some

1507
01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:42,160
Speaker 1: of Bustter runs bro I've tried, And then for three

1508
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:44,680
Speaker 1: years after I tried, I just funk with him, like

1509
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:46,800
Speaker 1: if I ever bring him my offer, you just be

1510
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:50,559
Speaker 1: looking at it like I know this somewhere that's old school,

1511
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:54,240
Speaker 1: and listen, I'm gonna be honest. At first, I was like,

1512
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:58,040
Speaker 1: you know's just crazy, But now like late years later,

1513
01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 1: I realized, and I was because integrity. I respect his

1514
01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:07,120
Speaker 1: morals and I respect his stands. He is as a

1515
01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:09,240
Speaker 1: brother that's been in the hip hop logan all of

1516
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:13,679
Speaker 1: us probably, But guess what if he wants to take

1517
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 1: that stands up he's in the middle of He's a genie.

1518
01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:24,360
Speaker 1: I have to respect him. He's a motherfucking genie in

1519
01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:26,559
Speaker 1: my hid speak, the bust of rockers on the floor

1520
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:29,719
Speaker 1: on the phone, his ship is, he's just floating in there.

1521
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:33,840
Speaker 1: He's just in there like he's a genie, and I

1522
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:36,320
Speaker 1: respect him. He's my brother. So the first record I

1523
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:38,280
Speaker 1: ever posted through the Street Team, like when I came

1524
01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:41,840
Speaker 1: at the Hunter party, was he just under the schools

1525
01:31:42,240 --> 01:31:51,519
Speaker 1: the PTN. It's just another case of yeah, don't anybody

1526
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 1: nobody's sick to look? What the fuck? Yeah, that's you know,

1527
01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:03,240
Speaker 1: you impress that record. Amazing record that record and Red

1528
01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:08,680
Speaker 1: Nubian slowed Down. Yeah so you did that. No, that

1529
01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:10,519
Speaker 1: was on electric. But those are the two first two

1530
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:14,439
Speaker 1: records that I promoted it through, but through the efficient

1531
01:32:14,439 --> 01:32:18,400
Speaker 1: Street Team. Yet, do you think there's anything that you

1532
01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:20,920
Speaker 1: guys were doing in the Street Team era, like the

1533
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:24,479
Speaker 1: physical Street Team era, that couldn't be applied today. I

1534
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:26,439
Speaker 1: think you need both today, I really do. I mean

1535
01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:29,360
Speaker 1: to me, it's like when I go into a market,

1536
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:34,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to a Walmart still and just hearing what

1537
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:37,760
Speaker 1: people are talking at twelve one o'clock in the morn

1538
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:42,120
Speaker 1: so and that was my thing. Listen, my father had

1539
01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:45,559
Speaker 1: one of the most successful labels. We didn't grow up

1540
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:47,920
Speaker 1: on the street, right, so I always had to figure

1541
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:51,760
Speaker 1: out what that advantage was for me. So when I

1542
01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 1: put the street team together and we started making some noise.

1543
01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:56,800
Speaker 1: Now my wife and kids live in l A. But

1544
01:32:56,880 --> 01:32:59,120
Speaker 1: I was still spent one weekend night in a month here.

1545
01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:04,200
Speaker 1: So I would start off that um king plasm mall

1546
01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:07,639
Speaker 1: and go with one of the stores and just hang

1547
01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:11,320
Speaker 1: out and hear what the kids were saying. King's Plot

1548
01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:13,680
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn. Yeah okay. Then I ended up a few

1549
01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:17,519
Speaker 1: hours later Dr Jason thirty fourth Street and just I

1550
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:20,240
Speaker 1: got to one of my best friends on training camp,

1551
01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:25,000
Speaker 1: Reme do you go sneak a store? And that's a

1552
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:32,519
Speaker 1: great workers right, so you know, and I would I

1553
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:36,880
Speaker 1: would end up working at training Camp like behind the

1554
01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:39,400
Speaker 1: kind of just hearing what you know, what this saying,

1555
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:41,240
Speaker 1: and then I would end up at a place called

1556
01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:45,839
Speaker 1: DJ's in Washington Heights on and that would be my Saturday.

1557
01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:48,040
Speaker 1: I ain't a lot You sound like a cocaine dealer

1558
01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:55,080
Speaker 1: was so street, but I so I always came back

1559
01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:59,040
Speaker 1: to just like I always I'm a little competitive. So

1560
01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 1: I had an up you know, m like, hey, you

1561
01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:03,960
Speaker 1: know about this you know, and they're looking at me like,

1562
01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:06,320
Speaker 1: how the fund is you? Knowing all this ship? But

1563
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 1: to be that one Saturday a month where I would

1564
01:34:08,560 --> 01:34:11,160
Speaker 1: start off in Brooklyn and up in Westernton nights, Now,

1565
01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:14,280
Speaker 1: how problem was it? Like? Because dead Press? Right, I'm

1566
01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:17,040
Speaker 1: gonna be honest, when you listen to dead Press lyrics, right,

1567
01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:21,600
Speaker 1: it's probably the most anti white lyrics that can probably be.

1568
01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:25,920
Speaker 1: How do you remove yourself from that? Like, you know,

1569
01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:30,719
Speaker 1: our fan of dead Press, that's hard. I didn't imagine

1570
01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:34,360
Speaker 1: that what I'm Florida, that's family and that's that's what

1571
01:34:34,439 --> 01:34:36,439
Speaker 1: of those people don't what I'm saying this like, how

1572
01:34:36,479 --> 01:34:39,760
Speaker 1: could you like because I always imagine, like you know,

1573
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:42,080
Speaker 1: when I hear the public Enemy, and I realized that

1574
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:46,000
Speaker 1: people that's pushing in Public Enemy was Leo cons and

1575
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:48,840
Speaker 1: things like that, but I hadn't learned that later. And

1576
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:50,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is like when you hear dead Press,

1577
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:54,439
Speaker 1: there they they're just the most pro black Is people

1578
01:34:54,560 --> 01:35:01,400
Speaker 1: ever And you guys signed them all their music records

1579
01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:04,439
Speaker 1: speak the records were and you know what, at the

1580
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:08,920
Speaker 1: end of the day there before me, right, But I

1581
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:10,840
Speaker 1: could look at myself in the barr that I know

1582
01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:13,439
Speaker 1: I did right by them, right and whatever their belief saw,

1583
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:15,760
Speaker 1: their belief saw do. I wish there was more of

1584
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:20,160
Speaker 1: a trust because I wasn't the Antichrist, right if there

1585
01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:23,160
Speaker 1: wasn't real question other way, me and my pad, the

1586
01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:26,000
Speaker 1: way me and who had, the way Joe fun had,

1587
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:31,280
Speaker 1: they might have been the biggest group I had. But

1588
01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:34,919
Speaker 1: prior to you even signing them, their ideology and their

1589
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:38,439
Speaker 1: beliefs towards a certain group of people were that. It

1590
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:41,720
Speaker 1: wasn't like they signed and then became that they were there.

1591
01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:45,040
Speaker 1: They were that from the from the get go. Jam Yeah,

1592
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:50,200
Speaker 1: he's he brought them to me and you knew what Jaman. Yeah.

1593
01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:54,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean that's that's that's that's it. That's ill,

1594
01:35:55,160 --> 01:35:58,639
Speaker 1: that's it. And so so I like even like didn't

1595
01:35:58,640 --> 01:36:02,160
Speaker 1: you work with Public Enemy? I did my first project

1596
01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:05,599
Speaker 1: when I walked in the door to works Public Enemy

1597
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:07,800
Speaker 1: and he was at at some of the messages, so

1598
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:10,320
Speaker 1: like like so how is that just like that like

1599
01:36:10,479 --> 01:36:13,240
Speaker 1: like help me like described like you know, because I

1600
01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 1: mentioned like people you know, you guys are saying the

1601
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:22,599
Speaker 1: people are they're saying it's not me, but they're still saying,

1602
01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:26,439
Speaker 1: like you know, it was a little tricky for me

1603
01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:28,720
Speaker 1: because I came in as the young lawyer and they

1604
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:32,080
Speaker 1: were making a movie soundtrack with Spike Lee, who's also

1605
01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:35,080
Speaker 1: pretty confident. The right day, No, it was he got

1606
01:36:35,160 --> 01:36:38,720
Speaker 1: game and we did the soundtrack. So I had to

1607
01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:41,080
Speaker 1: get in and figure out all the deals. So I

1608
01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:43,519
Speaker 1: had to do a phone call with Chuck and Spike.

1609
01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:51,360
Speaker 1: You know, Spikes a legend, truck, a lawyer, you could

1610
01:36:51,360 --> 01:37:01,639
Speaker 1: have been whatever you doing. They went right into share

1611
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:05,320
Speaker 1: croppers and the field of copyright and were stealing our stuff.

1612
01:37:05,400 --> 01:37:08,760
Speaker 1: And YO, tell that New York like it just went

1613
01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 1: left right away. But you know, I tried to be

1614
01:37:12,920 --> 01:37:16,000
Speaker 1: you know, consilivatory. My job was just to get the

1615
01:37:16,040 --> 01:37:18,960
Speaker 1: deals done, what producers, records got to come out. So

1616
01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:20,519
Speaker 1: I just kind of took it. I wasn't going to

1617
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:24,120
Speaker 1: get into the conversation of because I didn't even understand

1618
01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:26,800
Speaker 1: it at that point. It took a while to kind

1619
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:30,080
Speaker 1: of understand that the subculture is a lot of the

1620
01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:33,080
Speaker 1: you know kind of things that dead Press would talk

1621
01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:35,519
Speaker 1: about or the five percenters that what Time would talk about.

1622
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:37,960
Speaker 1: Like that job is to push that envelope and push

1623
01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:41,200
Speaker 1: that art form to the fringes, and that it is

1624
01:37:41,240 --> 01:37:43,360
Speaker 1: what it is. You know. The Dead Press came in

1625
01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:45,880
Speaker 1: with some tea shirts one day. I was like, can

1626
01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:51,360
Speaker 1: I have one? Give me ten bucks? I don't know

1627
01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:57,719
Speaker 1: if I was expect it's kind of they they didn't

1628
01:37:57,720 --> 01:38:01,840
Speaker 1: back down, right, So I did respect, right, and I

1629
01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:03,920
Speaker 1: gave him the time box. It wasn't where I wasn't

1630
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:06,080
Speaker 1: where I paid for the shirt. It wasn't like, hey,

1631
01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:08,920
Speaker 1: I paid for you know. And I always looked at

1632
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:12,960
Speaker 1: as like I'm not that I am. But it was

1633
01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:17,719
Speaker 1: like a situation we never had it. We never always polite,

1634
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:21,680
Speaker 1: you know, like you never people. Yeah, I ran to

1635
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:25,920
Speaker 1: stick yeah yeah right on the plane, yeah from here,

1636
01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:28,680
Speaker 1: from Atlantity here actually right, and we spoke you know

1637
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:30,840
Speaker 1: for a two hours. I mean it was amazing. You know,

1638
01:38:31,040 --> 01:38:35,600
Speaker 1: I'm one, you know, called you know, to get this

1639
01:38:35,720 --> 01:38:37,360
Speaker 1: thing done. You know, it's like I really want to

1640
01:38:37,640 --> 01:38:40,960
Speaker 1: be it. So still I respect that. I respect that,

1641
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:44,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like I was, I respected.

1642
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:50,479
Speaker 1: Whatever happened. You're not gonna know this, but me and

1643
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:54,439
Speaker 1: my boy Eddie, he's here. We worked the Loud Street team.

1644
01:38:54,439 --> 01:39:00,240
Speaker 1: We were the I told you he was, and then

1645
01:39:00,280 --> 01:39:03,840
Speaker 1: we took back that I told you he's gonna remember this.

1646
01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:07,639
Speaker 1: But I've always been wondering what happened to Buddha. Buddhist

1647
01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:12,160
Speaker 1: got me his brother, right, so Buddhism. Yeah, that's that's

1648
01:39:12,160 --> 01:39:14,040
Speaker 1: when we worked. That's when we were the street team

1649
01:39:14,080 --> 01:39:18,320
Speaker 1: was heavy and the whole reggae tone and just that's fine.

1650
01:39:21,720 --> 01:39:26,200
Speaker 1: Got me some Gobby's looking like he looking at half

1651
01:39:26,240 --> 01:39:32,880
Speaker 1: of a man. Yeah, yeah, he respect I'm so happy,

1652
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:35,840
Speaker 1: not only I expect you, I love you and I'm

1653
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:37,760
Speaker 1: happy for you. Got be like I'm not see like

1654
01:39:37,880 --> 01:39:42,639
Speaker 1: he got a super smile ship he like that, Scott,

1655
01:39:42,680 --> 01:39:45,160
Speaker 1: he just got a huge check. Oh yeah, I forget

1656
01:39:45,200 --> 01:39:46,560
Speaker 1: the kid that he just saw it. Just did a

1657
01:39:46,640 --> 01:39:49,240
Speaker 1: deal with something, become some new hot kids. Something crazy.

1658
01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:54,360
Speaker 1: I mean in the scope I don't even just not

1659
01:39:54,439 --> 01:39:56,960
Speaker 1: gonna say hip hop because because because he was like

1660
01:39:57,200 --> 01:39:59,840
Speaker 1: your guy, that's just you clear so got me. So

1661
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:04,160
Speaker 1: it was bud was over there to write quarter we

1662
01:40:04,200 --> 01:40:10,360
Speaker 1: can rob every so so into this when I did

1663
01:40:10,400 --> 01:40:14,920
Speaker 1: the whole sap pole. Right. So, Buddhoo is the head

1664
01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:18,519
Speaker 1: of the street team. He brings his what seventeen years

1665
01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:20,760
Speaker 1: all at the time, right, so I'm in the back

1666
01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:23,720
Speaker 1: of he brings gobby. He brings gobby, right, So I

1667
01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:26,479
Speaker 1: have seventy five grand of kesh on for no reason.

1668
01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:29,519
Speaker 1: Just got to you know, let's make some wrist moers

1669
01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:36,559
Speaker 1: for the seven grand alright, So in those days, we're

1670
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:40,280
Speaker 1: going on the road for six weeks. Yeah, I don't

1671
01:40:40,320 --> 01:40:43,439
Speaker 1: bring any clothes. Everything we go into, I just find

1672
01:40:43,479 --> 01:40:47,720
Speaker 1: a Nike town or just whatever, just just go. So

1673
01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:52,960
Speaker 1: I'm in the back of the bus and I hess

1674
01:40:53,320 --> 01:40:55,439
Speaker 1: somebody just I don't know who god he is, but

1675
01:40:56,280 --> 01:40:58,840
Speaker 1: I'm peeing in my pants. That's how hard on that

1676
01:40:59,240 --> 01:41:04,040
Speaker 1: whoever the he's you know, cracking on. So I said,

1677
01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:07,280
Speaker 1: you know what, you're staying with me, and you hold

1678
01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:11,240
Speaker 1: onto this bag and don't go in this bag. Just

1679
01:41:11,880 --> 01:41:15,360
Speaker 1: hold it with your life. So you know, like these

1680
01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:18,680
Speaker 1: tall buses, they can't talk in front of the bus, right,

1681
01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:23,280
Speaker 1: So we have to like fifteen days. I have twenty

1682
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:27,040
Speaker 1: Nike bags now from just going to the foot lockers

1683
01:41:27,080 --> 01:41:28,840
Speaker 1: of the world. And he said, you know, wherever the

1684
01:41:28,880 --> 01:41:31,320
Speaker 1: funk we are, because I would buy clothes for the day,

1685
01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:34,240
Speaker 1: so he would have to bring it. I said, I'm

1686
01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:36,960
Speaker 1: gonna funk with him. Take a thousand dollars at any

1687
01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:42,320
Speaker 1: bad Yeah, and I'm like, who has his money? Like,

1688
01:41:42,400 --> 01:41:45,160
Speaker 1: we're missing a thousand dollars. Meanwhile, he's like choking himself

1689
01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:49,439
Speaker 1: because he has like twenty bags around this. He really

1690
01:41:49,640 --> 01:41:51,439
Speaker 1: so he really starts to have a panic at time.

1691
01:41:53,200 --> 01:41:55,400
Speaker 1: So got me and then I realized, you know what,

1692
01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:59,160
Speaker 1: this guy is a fucking soldier and he's the he's

1693
01:41:59,240 --> 01:42:03,960
Speaker 1: with me for life. So cut too. We come back

1694
01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:07,920
Speaker 1: from doing this tour. You know, somebody breaks into our stock.

1695
01:42:08,160 --> 01:42:12,680
Speaker 1: Remember the old start allowed jackets that we had never

1696
01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:16,600
Speaker 1: had one good continue, they break, they break in, and

1697
01:42:16,680 --> 01:42:18,599
Speaker 1: they still a hundred thousand illar was worth the jackets.

1698
01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:25,320
Speaker 1: Then no young was worth neither. Right, So the videotape,

1699
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:31,040
Speaker 1: it's gott be his cousin and Buddhist cousin the medic

1700
01:42:35,080 --> 01:42:46,600
Speaker 1: So now they so they both are gonna quit. I'm like,

1701
01:42:46,760 --> 01:42:49,120
Speaker 1: you're not gonna quit, and I'm sucking around. I'm like,

1702
01:42:49,439 --> 01:42:54,479
Speaker 1: you just gonna bring me back a finger. So cut

1703
01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:57,960
Speaker 1: to two days later, my my cell phone and it's spooted.

1704
01:42:58,000 --> 01:43:01,400
Speaker 1: He goes, I don't have him, but I got his

1705
01:43:01,479 --> 01:43:03,479
Speaker 1: wife tied up. What you want me to get her finger?

1706
01:43:11,240 --> 01:43:17,080
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to make noise for them. That didn't happen.

1707
01:43:17,120 --> 01:43:21,519
Speaker 1: Actually there was no finger taking, but I mean, but

1708
01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:23,920
Speaker 1: it was like David, I mean, you talk about two

1709
01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:27,320
Speaker 1: guys that were just so fucking loyal. Now, that whole

1710
01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:30,120
Speaker 1: squad was incredible. Man, you guys were incredible to work with.

1711
01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:33,880
Speaker 1: You remember I remember being honor for like executive a

1712
01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:37,720
Speaker 1: year and my dad's with me. He's like, what his

1713
01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:42,320
Speaker 1: own gotta being Buddha because he fell in love with him.

1714
01:43:42,520 --> 01:43:48,800
Speaker 1: I said, watch, I'm at the Delano Hotel by the pool. Yeah,

1715
01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:53,160
Speaker 1: and gotta be Buddha at the hotel next door, right,

1716
01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:55,120
Speaker 1: I said, you know, we just went the two ways.

1717
01:43:55,280 --> 01:43:59,479
Speaker 1: I was like, get over here. Within thirty seconds you

1718
01:43:59,560 --> 01:44:03,400
Speaker 1: hit just team cars crashing like they just jumped out

1719
01:44:03,400 --> 01:44:04,680
Speaker 1: of the clock. Didn't put it in your pocket, just

1720
01:44:04,840 --> 01:44:07,800
Speaker 1: destroyed the whole, the whole right, and you hear it

1721
01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:10,160
Speaker 1: by the pool. I said. My father's like, what the

1722
01:44:10,439 --> 01:44:20,320
Speaker 1: guy that that's gotta be in Buddha. So if you

1723
01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:25,599
Speaker 1: had to do it all over again, is this something

1724
01:44:25,680 --> 01:44:29,000
Speaker 1: you you wouldn't do it? What would you wouldn't do

1725
01:44:29,640 --> 01:44:33,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have sold the sony damn stave. I'm gonna

1726
01:44:33,080 --> 01:44:42,519
Speaker 1: be honest. I need to understand why with Sony. We

1727
01:44:42,640 --> 01:44:46,920
Speaker 1: were the small fish in the ocean compared to MG

1728
01:44:47,320 --> 01:44:53,280
Speaker 1: being the big fish in the park. And if I

1729
01:44:53,320 --> 01:44:55,640
Speaker 1: didn't listen, as much as I love Jimmy, if I

1730
01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:59,200
Speaker 1: just just thought about the bottom line a little bit,

1731
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,320
Speaker 1: was Jimmy was both forering you what Jimmy wasn't right.

1732
01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:04,160
Speaker 1: He was just saying, fuck BMG, don't worry about the

1733
01:45:04,160 --> 01:45:05,840
Speaker 1: bottom and they're making so much money if you this

1734
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:08,120
Speaker 1: way that way market, youre this that bonusing up the

1735
01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:11,920
Speaker 1: ask And um, I mean and he was paying me,

1736
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:13,880
Speaker 1: you should load of money. So you wish you would

1737
01:45:13,880 --> 01:45:15,640
Speaker 1: have went with Jimmy. No, I wish I would have

1738
01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:19,320
Speaker 1: just I should have stay. I would have just staged.

1739
01:45:19,760 --> 01:45:21,320
Speaker 1: He said, let me do what the funk I wanted

1740
01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:24,840
Speaker 1: to do. If if I wanted to change that, I'm

1741
01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:26,760
Speaker 1: sorry to cut you off, Steve, but it's that what

1742
01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:30,000
Speaker 1: do you what do you feel on that situation? Um? No,

1743
01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:32,240
Speaker 1: I think he has a point. But on the flip side,

1744
01:45:32,360 --> 01:45:35,280
Speaker 1: I mean, we did have a great opportunity at Sony

1745
01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:39,120
Speaker 1: with relativity, and I mean we did a hundred million

1746
01:45:39,160 --> 01:45:44,240
Speaker 1: dollars in building and in one quarter. Excuse me, tell

1747
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:53,800
Speaker 1: let's need to say, was just him sorry that a

1748
01:45:53,880 --> 01:45:58,360
Speaker 1: hundred hundred one building cycle in the fourth quarter. The

1749
01:45:58,640 --> 01:46:08,880
Speaker 1: next thing to that, Jesus and not where I only

1750
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:12,680
Speaker 1: are on def jam because the year before they put

1751
01:46:12,720 --> 01:46:14,880
Speaker 1: out the two d m X records, I think um

1752
01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:18,160
Speaker 1: and they had that crazy fourth quarters had a record

1753
01:46:18,200 --> 01:46:25,360
Speaker 1: at that time. I did not throw out too records.

1754
01:46:25,439 --> 01:46:28,280
Speaker 1: And yeah, I was a little guyn you were never

1755
01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:31,439
Speaker 1: a little guy. So I took ly was blue prods like,

1756
01:46:31,479 --> 01:46:33,200
Speaker 1: you know what, let's stack up the fourth quarter. So

1757
01:46:33,320 --> 01:46:36,000
Speaker 1: we had a Wool record, a Prodigy record, a three

1758
01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:40,479
Speaker 1: six Mafia recorded, an Exhibit record basically record, Yeah, a

1759
01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:45,160
Speaker 1: flex uh Flex record, Project Pat record, MLP record at

1760
01:46:45,160 --> 01:46:48,439
Speaker 1: that press record was going to Project Pat record as well.

1761
01:46:56,320 --> 01:46:58,519
Speaker 1: And Chris was up there at that time. No Chris,

1762
01:46:58,840 --> 01:47:02,320
Speaker 1: you know, Chris was was my manage from the beginning.

1763
01:47:02,439 --> 01:47:04,000
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. Let me just tell you something.

1764
01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:07,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember that when it came

1765
01:47:07,479 --> 01:47:09,479
Speaker 1: time for my soul, that was the thing. It was

1766
01:47:09,680 --> 01:47:14,040
Speaker 1: loud or it was definitely just like they kept going

1767
01:47:14,080 --> 01:47:16,920
Speaker 1: when they kept going, And the thing was Chris was like, man,

1768
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:20,200
Speaker 1: you know what, I just I wanted to be mobb

1769
01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:24,400
Speaker 1: deep spelling, but I could have like like Chris told me,

1770
01:47:24,520 --> 01:47:27,760
Speaker 1: the kid kept real. It was just like, yo that

1771
01:47:28,240 --> 01:47:29,920
Speaker 1: if this is a queen's guy, let it be a

1772
01:47:29,960 --> 01:47:32,240
Speaker 1: mom deep Vieling. And that's the reason why I went

1773
01:47:32,320 --> 01:47:35,439
Speaker 1: to that chat. This is real ship, this is real ship.

1774
01:47:35,680 --> 01:47:38,120
Speaker 1: Steve was my land always like I don't give you

1775
01:47:38,200 --> 01:47:41,240
Speaker 1: coming away with me. I'm saying, but it was Chris.

1776
01:47:41,439 --> 01:47:44,200
Speaker 1: But that's why I wanted all you guys, you know,

1777
01:47:44,520 --> 01:47:50,720
Speaker 1: to share the story. But like so so so so

1778
01:47:52,120 --> 01:47:54,320
Speaker 1: you guys always worked. Okay, I'm sorry, No, I just

1779
01:47:54,600 --> 01:47:58,360
Speaker 1: I remember I remember a year man someone when we

1780
01:47:58,520 --> 01:48:02,120
Speaker 1: had was to BMG and our office in l A

1781
01:48:02,280 --> 01:48:04,760
Speaker 1: was in the BMG building and I think that's where

1782
01:48:04,760 --> 01:48:08,280
Speaker 1: it was. And Stephen had some sort of episode with

1783
01:48:08,479 --> 01:48:10,840
Speaker 1: somebody and you came in at the right time to

1784
01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:14,320
Speaker 1: come down. That's me and exhibit we're going out, Yes,

1785
01:48:16,880 --> 01:48:20,200
Speaker 1: tell us this story. No, that's a fact. I walked in.

1786
01:48:20,320 --> 01:48:23,320
Speaker 1: I walked in the sea sticky. I don't know what

1787
01:48:23,479 --> 01:48:26,600
Speaker 1: exhibit was was was on, but I walked in. I

1788
01:48:26,720 --> 01:48:28,519
Speaker 1: was wrong. I toltdally eximple to go fund himself or

1789
01:48:28,520 --> 01:48:30,720
Speaker 1: something that I mean, I was, I mean, but that

1790
01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:33,160
Speaker 1: was our relationship. And then he came like you, I

1791
01:48:33,200 --> 01:48:34,639
Speaker 1: could say no the phone, say it to my face.

1792
01:48:35,200 --> 01:48:37,200
Speaker 1: And he came in and we got each other's face,

1793
01:48:37,439 --> 01:48:39,920
Speaker 1: and I happened to be coming to see you, and

1794
01:48:40,080 --> 01:48:42,920
Speaker 1: I think you guys and exhibit, and he was, and

1795
01:48:43,000 --> 01:48:47,519
Speaker 1: I said, new, I could not allow it, but because

1796
01:48:47,520 --> 01:48:50,800
Speaker 1: of me as its great great friends. And then I'm

1797
01:48:51,040 --> 01:48:53,120
Speaker 1: and with exhip. It's over the son of my oldest

1798
01:48:53,120 --> 01:48:56,040
Speaker 1: son and born the same day. Wow, God bless that

1799
01:48:56,200 --> 01:49:03,080
Speaker 1: godless he's bey. No, that's beautiful, man, that's beautiful. I'm

1800
01:49:03,120 --> 01:49:07,080
Speaker 1: telling I'm trying to tell y'all, um, this would be

1801
01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:09,680
Speaker 1: y'all like y'all, y'all lee, worry Jesson. When I say

1802
01:49:10,000 --> 01:49:13,400
Speaker 1: worry Jesson, you remember how like the Jetson's would travel,

1803
01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:16,080
Speaker 1: they would be in the same place to go to

1804
01:49:16,160 --> 01:49:20,639
Speaker 1: a different I don't if you'll realize that the Jestic jestice. Yeah,

1805
01:49:20,680 --> 01:49:24,599
Speaker 1: they're traveling, but they're keeping the same thing. That's exactly

1806
01:49:24,640 --> 01:49:27,080
Speaker 1: what that talk could be. The talk could be the

1807
01:49:27,240 --> 01:49:30,920
Speaker 1: traveling label. I like to drink champ slot talk. I

1808
01:49:31,040 --> 01:49:34,400
Speaker 1: love to drink chatman, because we don't sounds strong. It

1809
01:49:34,520 --> 01:49:43,200
Speaker 1: sounds strong. It sounds like really really got to make announcement.

1810
01:49:43,280 --> 01:49:46,120
Speaker 1: Now that's like we're gonna do with just we're gonna

1811
01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:50,200
Speaker 1: set it off. What day is the actual January thirty next,

1812
01:49:50,240 --> 01:49:53,760
Speaker 1: Thurst dirty And Okay, I think there's some way we

1813
01:49:53,800 --> 01:49:57,640
Speaker 1: can make some way something, make it hark. We can

1814
01:49:57,720 --> 01:50:00,760
Speaker 1: do it. So we could u do it in that

1815
01:50:00,960 --> 01:50:03,640
Speaker 1: green room where we talked with all of ours as

1816
01:50:03,680 --> 01:50:05,400
Speaker 1: they're going in and out of the show. But but

1817
01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:08,160
Speaker 1: but we would do we provide even more than that.

1818
01:50:08,240 --> 01:50:11,720
Speaker 1: We're great, we're great street team people and services. But

1819
01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:13,720
Speaker 1: we would do is that's behind the scenes. But we

1820
01:50:13,800 --> 01:50:16,759
Speaker 1: were also hosts because you know, you gotta have somebody

1821
01:50:16,840 --> 01:50:21,880
Speaker 1: talking in between that press and and you know, he

1822
01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:24,519
Speaker 1: had finished being one of the grey and then I'm

1823
01:50:24,520 --> 01:50:27,160
Speaker 1: coming out of his host But then every night, behind

1824
01:50:27,240 --> 01:50:30,920
Speaker 1: the scenes, it's a drink Camps episode that I'm not

1825
01:50:31,040 --> 01:50:35,799
Speaker 1: going to. But that's really that's really what this industry

1826
01:50:35,880 --> 01:50:38,880
Speaker 1: is about. It is like us as people that have

1827
01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:42,560
Speaker 1: been that I said it earlier, fraternity. That's what I

1828
01:50:42,800 --> 01:50:48,000
Speaker 1: finally getting to feel like, like you know, the other

1829
01:50:48,120 --> 01:50:52,320
Speaker 1: day boosey Wa Kappa Kappa Kappa shirt and the fucking

1830
01:50:52,439 --> 01:51:01,160
Speaker 1: college people lost their mind. Sorry, sorry, exactly what I'm

1831
01:51:01,200 --> 01:51:05,600
Speaker 1: saying it lost a mind. Okay, I'm sorry, sir. I

1832
01:51:05,680 --> 01:51:13,080
Speaker 1: appreciate yourself. What I'm trying to say is that that's

1833
01:51:13,160 --> 01:51:15,080
Speaker 1: what I feel like hip hop should be. Like I

1834
01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:16,960
Speaker 1: feel like, if you've got ten years in this game

1835
01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:21,559
Speaker 1: a hip hop, we should have a flag shirt because

1836
01:51:21,720 --> 01:51:24,200
Speaker 1: this is because this is you know, for lack of

1837
01:51:24,280 --> 01:51:26,160
Speaker 1: a better term, like one of the people say that

1838
01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:31,160
Speaker 1: coach your vultures, and like ten years, fifteen years in

1839
01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:33,680
Speaker 1: this game, you should have we should we should have

1840
01:51:33,760 --> 01:51:37,679
Speaker 1: a pen. We should have a pen like generals, like generals,

1841
01:51:37,960 --> 01:51:42,800
Speaker 1: like the Marines, decorations that they called decorations like this

1842
01:51:42,840 --> 01:51:47,760
Speaker 1: isn't trying to say forty yearsn't And you have never

1843
01:51:47,880 --> 01:51:51,639
Speaker 1: been called a culture vulture ever? Or have you not gonna?

1844
01:51:51,640 --> 01:51:53,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, No, I don't think you have based

1845
01:51:54,479 --> 01:51:56,840
Speaker 1: and I don't think you have, but I don't think

1846
01:51:56,880 --> 01:52:01,200
Speaker 1: you have. But what we're going honest, man, what do

1847
01:52:01,280 --> 01:52:04,160
Speaker 1: you think that if you had? What do you think that?

1848
01:52:04,520 --> 01:52:07,200
Speaker 1: What do you do? That means? What that I haven't

1849
01:52:07,200 --> 01:52:10,400
Speaker 1: been called one? What it means? I don't even know

1850
01:52:10,479 --> 01:52:13,000
Speaker 1: what it means. It's taking advantage of somebody. I mean

1851
01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:16,559
Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's where you'd go, Yeah, what did

1852
01:52:16,600 --> 01:52:19,200
Speaker 1: you do? It warranted them calling you that he was

1853
01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:22,760
Speaker 1: apposed to dash that out of what they're referred to me.

1854
01:52:23,680 --> 01:52:26,960
Speaker 1: But I think I think that the idea behind the

1855
01:52:27,120 --> 01:52:30,000
Speaker 1: name is that you're profiting off of hip hop culture

1856
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:32,160
Speaker 1: and not giving back, that you don't respect the culture,

1857
01:52:32,600 --> 01:52:36,200
Speaker 1: that you don't participate. You're just trying to exploit it

1858
01:52:36,280 --> 01:52:39,479
Speaker 1: and get money. And that's where your concern ends. But

1859
01:52:39,560 --> 01:52:43,120
Speaker 1: that's a real concern. I think it's totally leg There's

1860
01:52:43,160 --> 01:52:46,160
Speaker 1: a history of plenty of people exploiting other people based

1861
01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:50,240
Speaker 1: on color, based on their job, based on male or female.

1862
01:52:50,360 --> 01:52:53,360
Speaker 1: There's a lot of exploitation. I just don't think it's

1863
01:52:53,360 --> 01:52:58,400
Speaker 1: just restricted to music and hip hop and no, it

1864
01:52:58,520 --> 01:53:02,519
Speaker 1: was a culture vulture and all kinds of cultures whatever. Culture. Yeah,

1865
01:53:03,560 --> 01:53:07,760
Speaker 1: but I think I think, man, you know what, we

1866
01:53:07,960 --> 01:53:11,559
Speaker 1: have been doing this in hip hop and hip hop

1867
01:53:11,640 --> 01:53:15,759
Speaker 1: has been succeeding. And I think that we all together

1868
01:53:15,920 --> 01:53:21,719
Speaker 1: as a people, know who's this is. I want me. Yeah,

1869
01:53:22,680 --> 01:53:24,120
Speaker 1: I feel like Steve, I did not hope for you

1870
01:53:24,160 --> 01:53:28,280
Speaker 1: to drink this old. I can't drink heart because because

1871
01:53:28,280 --> 01:53:30,439
Speaker 1: she really had like a heart, Yeah, I had a

1872
01:53:30,560 --> 01:53:46,559
Speaker 1: real heart. Attack. He has a heart. Scary, scary because

1873
01:53:46,560 --> 01:53:48,439
Speaker 1: I remember it was like a Steve and then this,

1874
01:53:48,600 --> 01:53:52,120
Speaker 1: this is the after. This is the after Steve. No,

1875
01:53:52,320 --> 01:53:53,680
Speaker 1: you know what I'm trying to say, Like you know,

1876
01:53:54,000 --> 01:53:57,759
Speaker 1: before Steven was nuts, the wild Steve. He's very crazy.

1877
01:53:57,840 --> 01:54:01,960
Speaker 1: I like him. But this is the calm the post

1878
01:54:02,040 --> 01:54:04,960
Speaker 1: protect your hearts to Yes, you have I mean accident

1879
01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:08,680
Speaker 1: deflated right here. That's definitely gonna calm you down. Sure,

1880
01:54:09,160 --> 01:54:13,640
Speaker 1: I have no idea what you just said. If saulate

1881
01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:15,800
Speaker 1: so you know when your heart stops, it's just no,

1882
01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:19,760
Speaker 1: I do not. No, It's like the electric joint. Oh ship,

1883
01:54:19,960 --> 01:54:23,679
Speaker 1: Yeah you have one built in Yeah? No, holy ship?

1884
01:54:24,200 --> 01:54:27,600
Speaker 1: And I'm smoking like this not what could moving back? No? No,

1885
01:54:27,880 --> 01:54:29,760
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I just can't smoke, but I could

1886
01:54:29,760 --> 01:54:36,840
Speaker 1: get take edible? Have you? I have? I beenly Is

1887
01:54:36,920 --> 01:54:38,840
Speaker 1: We have a Beverly Hills is phenomenal. By the way,

1888
01:54:43,120 --> 01:54:48,720
Speaker 1: drink this is a little way and ship? Why you

1889
01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:53,080
Speaker 1: have this Colombia that's my ship? I know what? Never trying?

1890
01:54:56,240 --> 01:54:58,920
Speaker 1: Yes man, you say it again? Boom boom boom boom.

1891
01:54:58,960 --> 01:55:01,960
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's not sisting on the pork chorse.

1892
01:55:02,040 --> 01:55:06,160
Speaker 1: Brobably listen on the Bumbo Bumbo. She's like my mom

1893
01:55:07,120 --> 01:55:09,680
Speaker 1: like fan move, but I really it's my Eyeland sister.

1894
01:55:10,600 --> 01:55:14,080
Speaker 1: You know good, it's good, it's good. All right, that's

1895
01:55:14,160 --> 01:55:17,600
Speaker 1: false and I listened to us. That's it all you

1896
01:55:17,640 --> 01:55:21,440
Speaker 1: other guys. I don't trust you at you give me

1897
01:55:21,520 --> 01:55:27,080
Speaker 1: false and shot. Tell me one more years. Take a shot,

1898
01:55:27,400 --> 01:55:29,800
Speaker 1: grab something shot all right, but let's take a shot.

1899
01:55:29,960 --> 01:55:34,280
Speaker 1: Motherfucking come take a shock. Take a shot. Take you

1900
01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:40,120
Speaker 1: gonna take a shot. You gotta track me, white man,

1901
01:55:40,320 --> 01:55:43,440
Speaker 1: you gotta take your ship. Got to mixing. Stop talking

1902
01:55:43,440 --> 01:55:51,280
Speaker 1: about the Listen. I'm not gonna lie at that out Steven, Steve,

1903
01:55:51,680 --> 01:55:55,920
Speaker 1: give Steve. Listen Steve. This is about Steve whipping. So

1904
01:55:56,040 --> 01:55:59,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna We're gonna keep with Steve. I'm not gonna lie.

1905
01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:02,400
Speaker 1: You're one of the best CEOs out there. You're a

1906
01:56:02,520 --> 01:56:07,600
Speaker 1: person that still stick by your artists no matter what. Uh,

1907
01:56:08,960 --> 01:56:11,200
Speaker 1: it doesn't even matter if you agree with the ideologies

1908
01:56:11,280 --> 01:56:13,360
Speaker 1: or not. You're standing there at that and that's the

1909
01:56:13,680 --> 01:56:16,680
Speaker 1: that's the definition of hip hop. That's the definition of

1910
01:56:16,760 --> 01:56:18,760
Speaker 1: what hip hop is supposed to be. Sometimes it's like

1911
01:56:18,880 --> 01:56:21,160
Speaker 1: you know what that ship is like right now? Like

1912
01:56:21,600 --> 01:56:25,160
Speaker 1: when I listened to the young generation. I don't agree

1913
01:56:25,360 --> 01:56:28,520
Speaker 1: with none of the ship, but I still box to it.

1914
01:56:30,360 --> 01:56:36,000
Speaker 1: I can line, but I'll be thinking it. So that's

1915
01:56:36,040 --> 01:56:40,040
Speaker 1: the definition of hip hop. I'm taking on like you

1916
01:56:40,080 --> 01:56:44,920
Speaker 1: know me. Also, the definition, right is it's not about

1917
01:56:44,960 --> 01:56:47,280
Speaker 1: the win sometimes because fact how many times you get up?

1918
01:56:49,920 --> 01:56:54,640
Speaker 1: So to me, that's what hip hop. Okay, so let's

1919
01:56:54,720 --> 01:57:00,240
Speaker 1: just salute to that, to that so little everybody, Okay,

1920
01:57:01,320 --> 01:57:04,320
Speaker 1: down quickly, that's fine. One. I gotta use your back.

1921
01:57:07,600 --> 01:57:10,240
Speaker 1: I think I piggies first. I got me go first.

1922
01:57:11,880 --> 01:57:13,400
Speaker 1: I got said what I'm saying to say this morning.

1923
01:57:15,120 --> 01:57:17,840
Speaker 1: Now after all this ship, right, well, you don't even

1924
01:57:17,920 --> 01:57:24,040
Speaker 1: take it down brown man, you came down to hang

1925
01:57:24,120 --> 01:57:35,440
Speaker 1: out with them. Now, this would tank our album. What

1926
01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:39,120
Speaker 1: did you? What did you? Girl? What's the those days? Correl? No,

1927
01:57:39,240 --> 01:57:41,960
Speaker 1: that's not that's not even listen. I'll never get a

1928
01:57:41,960 --> 01:57:48,840
Speaker 1: second guest prison. I'm not what that was his I

1929
01:57:48,960 --> 01:57:52,320
Speaker 1: understand what it was A dope idea. The idea was basic.

1930
01:57:52,400 --> 01:57:56,040
Speaker 1: It's dope there. It just got exploited in the wrong

1931
01:57:56,120 --> 01:57:58,600
Speaker 1: way by that got in the wrong hand, right, So

1932
01:57:58,840 --> 01:58:02,200
Speaker 1: that's so that's all. But I would never second guess

1933
01:58:02,520 --> 01:58:05,760
Speaker 1: at all. But it's like when the mty teacher the

1934
01:58:05,880 --> 01:58:08,600
Speaker 1: man's records are coming. I stayed in New York for

1935
01:58:08,640 --> 01:58:10,760
Speaker 1: the summer. He would come up to the office every

1936
01:58:10,760 --> 01:58:15,360
Speaker 1: single day with a notebook and it had and it

1937
01:58:15,440 --> 01:58:19,280
Speaker 1: had twenty seven lines. If he would have twenty seven

1938
01:58:20,480 --> 01:58:24,240
Speaker 1: questions right, and I would say yes to six out

1939
01:58:24,280 --> 01:58:26,880
Speaker 1: of seven, And he would say to me, why are

1940
01:58:26,880 --> 01:58:29,400
Speaker 1: you saying yes? Are you scanning me? I'm like, why

1941
01:58:29,440 --> 01:58:31,640
Speaker 1: would I be scary? Everything that you're asking for is

1942
01:58:31,720 --> 01:58:34,040
Speaker 1: making sense. And the one thing that I might have

1943
01:58:34,160 --> 01:58:36,320
Speaker 1: to say no to is because maybe I just don't

1944
01:58:36,320 --> 01:58:40,640
Speaker 1: have the money. But that even makes sense, So it

1945
01:58:40,760 --> 01:58:45,520
Speaker 1: has nothing to do about fear. What was there ever

1946
01:58:45,720 --> 01:58:48,200
Speaker 1: any of these artists or any of these records that

1947
01:58:48,280 --> 01:58:50,480
Speaker 1: were presented to you that you thought, I don't I

1948
01:58:50,480 --> 01:58:56,960
Speaker 1: don't want to touch this. No, I never like when

1949
01:58:57,040 --> 01:58:59,320
Speaker 1: Mom Deep came, you know how Now, Like if someone

1950
01:58:59,480 --> 01:59:02,640
Speaker 1: brings a a piece of content or a project that

1951
01:59:02,720 --> 01:59:08,000
Speaker 1: had previously had a deal and wasn't necessarily commercially successful,

1952
01:59:08,240 --> 01:59:09,720
Speaker 1: they might be like, no, I don't want to touch that.

1953
01:59:10,400 --> 01:59:13,160
Speaker 1: Like what made you see that mob Deep could be

1954
01:59:13,320 --> 01:59:15,520
Speaker 1: mob Deep? What they were in the day they came

1955
01:59:16,320 --> 01:59:19,080
Speaker 1: he wasn't there always have and just the rest of

1956
01:59:19,120 --> 01:59:23,240
Speaker 1: the mob deep they had this energy that just I mean,

1957
01:59:23,320 --> 01:59:27,120
Speaker 1: it was like had Woo performed, they just so don't

1958
01:59:27,120 --> 01:59:31,080
Speaker 1: matter what they had done before that, that happum was

1959
01:59:31,120 --> 01:59:35,400
Speaker 1: a break right right what mom, Like, I'm asking like

1960
01:59:35,640 --> 01:59:37,640
Speaker 1: from the back album. Hit it from the back album.

1961
01:59:38,960 --> 01:59:42,720
Speaker 1: So so when they came in, like they just took

1962
01:59:42,760 --> 01:59:44,560
Speaker 1: over the whole room and it was like, I gotta

1963
01:59:44,600 --> 01:59:46,680
Speaker 1: have these guys. Remember that they went into the men's

1964
01:59:46,720 --> 01:59:50,360
Speaker 1: room to smoke a blunt there and the fire and

1965
01:59:50,440 --> 01:59:52,840
Speaker 1: the water just came down. I was like, this is

1966
01:59:52,920 --> 01:59:58,840
Speaker 1: the perfect spinoff, was a matter of fact, and they

1967
01:59:58,960 --> 02:00:01,000
Speaker 1: kicked up BMG, kick this out where it's like you

1968
02:00:01,080 --> 02:00:03,400
Speaker 1: guys gotta have your own office now. So but but um,

1969
02:00:03,720 --> 02:00:06,920
Speaker 1: but I said, we take in between Woo. Did Nas

1970
02:00:06,960 --> 02:00:10,520
Speaker 1: come out before after we tang before around the same time,

1971
02:00:10,560 --> 02:00:14,200
Speaker 1: Actually google it Nas on though he had to record

1972
02:00:14,280 --> 02:00:17,760
Speaker 1: with the third search and Patre Yeah, back to the

1973
02:00:17,800 --> 02:00:21,760
Speaker 1: grill again And so I had was before and then

1974
02:00:21,880 --> 02:00:25,800
Speaker 1: um he might have had a single before us, because

1975
02:00:25,800 --> 02:00:31,000
Speaker 1: I remember when Nas called rizzm m um, they were

1976
02:00:31,000 --> 02:00:33,080
Speaker 1: ecstatic that Rizzo was gonna do two or three beats

1977
02:00:33,680 --> 02:00:36,200
Speaker 1: on the album, but they're all ninety three releases. Both

1978
02:00:36,240 --> 02:00:38,720
Speaker 1: of them were ninety three, like official album releases. I

1979
02:00:38,800 --> 02:00:41,840
Speaker 1: think they I think NAS came ninety four. Oh yeah,

1980
02:00:44,960 --> 02:00:53,280
Speaker 1: because Tank came to Vember nag right, what Tang came

1981
02:00:53,360 --> 02:00:57,040
Speaker 1: November nine and the week he came out was tried

1982
02:00:57,760 --> 02:01:02,040
Speaker 1: and R Kelly, and then Snoop came that's different today,

1983
02:01:02,200 --> 02:01:08,520
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, and then Snoop came out to sixteen Night,

1984
02:01:08,760 --> 02:01:12,440
Speaker 1: but it was out ninety two though Snoop with with

1985
02:01:12,600 --> 02:01:21,160
Speaker 1: this his first solo, don't say it was two. Check

1986
02:01:21,240 --> 02:01:24,120
Speaker 1: that scene definitely, that's definitely late nine three. Can we

1987
02:01:24,240 --> 02:01:26,440
Speaker 1: can we check the date though I'm almost possibly it's

1988
02:01:26,480 --> 02:01:29,240
Speaker 1: November sixteen. Yes, it's definitely late ninety three. I know

1989
02:01:29,360 --> 02:01:33,320
Speaker 1: that for facts. I love this right now. But you

1990
02:01:33,360 --> 02:01:35,480
Speaker 1: know what makes it confusing because back then people were

1991
02:01:35,600 --> 02:01:42,760
Speaker 1: promoting albums all right, yeah, yeah, like a year like now,

1992
02:01:42,840 --> 02:01:45,960
Speaker 1: nobody could conceive that that someone would have singles to

1993
02:01:46,160 --> 02:01:49,360
Speaker 1: lead him to an album almost a year year. Agree

1994
02:01:49,400 --> 02:01:53,320
Speaker 1: with this surprise album? How about you? How about Johnathan? Johnathan?

1995
02:01:53,360 --> 02:01:55,280
Speaker 1: I wanted to as I said, oh you got this

1996
02:01:55,360 --> 02:01:58,880
Speaker 1: surprise album? Like nowadays there's no promotion at all. There's

1997
02:01:58,920 --> 02:02:02,160
Speaker 1: no need for a street team, there's no need for nothing.

1998
02:02:02,160 --> 02:02:04,000
Speaker 1: They just like, there's just a problem. If you have

1999
02:02:04,280 --> 02:02:08,240
Speaker 1: these people, they just drop a surprise album. Do you

2000
02:02:08,320 --> 02:02:10,080
Speaker 1: agree with? That's only if they have the following that

2001
02:02:10,160 --> 02:02:11,600
Speaker 1: that makes it has the pot. But so many these

2002
02:02:11,640 --> 02:02:13,960
Speaker 1: people think they have the following and they they're very

2003
02:02:14,040 --> 02:02:16,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna Drake. Drake has to follow, Drake has a

2004
02:02:16,920 --> 02:02:19,600
Speaker 1: follow up. Beyonce and the Mega Star could do that,

2005
02:02:19,680 --> 02:02:22,600
Speaker 1: but nobody. Eminem did it last week. This word of

2006
02:02:22,680 --> 02:02:26,520
Speaker 1: mouth now, I mean it's like light switch speed travel

2007
02:02:26,680 --> 02:02:29,320
Speaker 1: so fast now it's been fresh on the buck. I

2008
02:02:29,360 --> 02:02:33,240
Speaker 1: mean like I would saying we would generally release three

2009
02:02:33,400 --> 02:02:36,320
Speaker 1: twelve inches at least before we're dropping an album with

2010
02:02:36,760 --> 02:02:40,320
Speaker 1: punt before it's still not a player. Three videos and

2011
02:02:40,440 --> 02:02:42,880
Speaker 1: the original version. So we had you Ain't to Kill Him?

2012
02:02:43,880 --> 02:02:49,880
Speaker 1: That's the white label, the real Wait, we had you

2013
02:02:49,920 --> 02:02:53,400
Speaker 1: Ain't to Kill U? The original You're not to Play

2014
02:02:53,480 --> 02:02:56,720
Speaker 1: with the o js right, the original without and then

2015
02:02:56,760 --> 02:02:58,840
Speaker 1: we came was still not a player. Then we came

2016
02:02:59,000 --> 02:03:02,280
Speaker 1: six weeks later with the Twins Right, which was a

2017
02:03:02,320 --> 02:03:04,560
Speaker 1: deep cover record R right. And then we came with

2018
02:03:04,600 --> 02:03:06,440
Speaker 1: Your record, and we came and came up right, So

2019
02:03:06,600 --> 02:03:09,960
Speaker 1: we had five singles within a matter of you think

2020
02:03:10,000 --> 02:03:12,840
Speaker 1: you think, you think, damn that that's that's that's that's

2021
02:03:12,880 --> 02:03:15,720
Speaker 1: freaking awesome. By the way, we you just broke that down.

2022
02:03:16,120 --> 02:03:19,960
Speaker 1: Everybody listening like that ship was ill. So we four videos,

2023
02:03:20,120 --> 02:03:23,440
Speaker 1: so we did it was one of the five solo layout.

2024
02:03:24,600 --> 02:03:27,640
Speaker 1: You think anybody could do that? Now they're dealing with Drake.

2025
02:03:28,040 --> 02:03:31,320
Speaker 1: I don't know any new artists that could. You got

2026
02:03:31,400 --> 02:03:34,080
Speaker 1: me on that one. I don't know, no little way

2027
02:03:34,120 --> 02:03:38,040
Speaker 1: you could do it, little right, but not a brand

2028
02:03:38,040 --> 02:03:41,360
Speaker 1: new artist. But when you think it gets them, the

2029
02:03:41,400 --> 02:03:44,320
Speaker 1: results of that one million in the first week or

2030
02:03:44,360 --> 02:03:46,560
Speaker 1: the million in the first week, don't I don't know

2031
02:03:46,560 --> 02:03:48,440
Speaker 1: how this whole streaming ship works now. I know the

2032
02:03:48,520 --> 02:03:51,640
Speaker 1: record companies are getting paid a fortune, right, I know

2033
02:03:51,800 --> 02:03:54,680
Speaker 1: Universal gets like five million dollars a year from Spotify,

2034
02:03:55,880 --> 02:03:58,920
Speaker 1: So really, I mean it's something right, right, Mandy. Yeah,

2035
02:03:58,920 --> 02:04:02,800
Speaker 1: they split up the uh subscription fees. And I think

2036
02:04:02,840 --> 02:04:06,200
Speaker 1: the reason it works so good in the surprise albums

2037
02:04:06,680 --> 02:04:10,120
Speaker 1: is because back when we started, your friend would have

2038
02:04:10,240 --> 02:04:11,640
Speaker 1: to buy it and then you have to tape it

2039
02:04:11,720 --> 02:04:13,320
Speaker 1: from you and the other friend would have to buy it.

2040
02:04:13,400 --> 02:04:15,800
Speaker 1: Now once it comes out, everyone has access to it.

2041
02:04:16,320 --> 02:04:18,000
Speaker 1: So it's just a word of mouth thing that can

2042
02:04:18,040 --> 02:04:20,080
Speaker 1: spread like that. I'm working. You don't have to pay

2043
02:04:20,120 --> 02:04:23,000
Speaker 1: anything extra. I'm working with the Suicide Boys. Now, okay,

2044
02:04:24,480 --> 02:04:29,720
Speaker 1: that's why that they are maker. This is it's a

2045
02:04:29,760 --> 02:04:35,440
Speaker 1: punk band right there, h two kids. Not New Orleans

2046
02:04:35,520 --> 02:04:40,440
Speaker 1: a city, but the country of New Orleans. And the

2047
02:04:40,520 --> 02:04:44,840
Speaker 1: way they are streaming right this second is crazy, right.

2048
02:04:44,880 --> 02:04:48,560
Speaker 1: I would deal is up with Universal in six months.

2049
02:04:49,000 --> 02:04:50,800
Speaker 1: It's gonna be the biggest bidding warm and I've never

2050
02:04:50,840 --> 02:04:53,520
Speaker 1: had a bidding war in my whole career. It's gonna

2051
02:04:53,520 --> 02:04:56,040
Speaker 1: be the biggest bidding warm of the year. M hm.

2052
02:04:59,280 --> 02:05:01,520
Speaker 1: And they can on your masters took well, they own

2053
02:05:01,600 --> 02:05:03,720
Speaker 1: we own our we own our own right. So do

2054
02:05:03,760 --> 02:05:06,000
Speaker 1: you do you recommend an artist that has that kind

2055
02:05:06,000 --> 02:05:10,800
Speaker 1: of following that you're talking about? Could they go independent?

2056
02:05:10,920 --> 02:05:13,240
Speaker 1: Because it allows you to be We are in the

2057
02:05:13,320 --> 02:05:15,920
Speaker 1: autonomous We are independent. We're going through Caroline right the second,

2058
02:05:15,960 --> 02:05:18,760
Speaker 1: which is owned by the Universal Right, So we are

2059
02:05:19,040 --> 02:05:23,160
Speaker 1: So what's what's what's the pros? And going to a

2060
02:05:23,200 --> 02:05:31,080
Speaker 1: major label at this there's no more pro lax all

2061
02:05:31,080 --> 02:05:35,280
Speaker 1: the time we were opposite side of this. You're all

2062
02:05:35,320 --> 02:05:38,440
Speaker 1: still taking advances And he said, then, huh, I don't know.

2063
02:05:40,080 --> 02:05:49,640
Speaker 1: We're hanging out with its leave. But two days. If

2064
02:05:49,680 --> 02:05:54,720
Speaker 1: you're a brand new artist right in today's marketplace, right,

2065
02:05:54,960 --> 02:05:57,360
Speaker 1: you gotta jump start to record yourself before they're back,

2066
02:05:57,680 --> 02:06:00,560
Speaker 1: before the labels, before the labels come. So if you

2067
02:06:00,640 --> 02:06:03,720
Speaker 1: run out of money, then you do need the label, right.

2068
02:06:03,880 --> 02:06:06,800
Speaker 1: But if you could figure out a way to get

2069
02:06:06,880 --> 02:06:09,920
Speaker 1: that money, keep that money, own your own ship and

2070
02:06:10,000 --> 02:06:12,360
Speaker 1: do it yourself, you're gonna make a fucking force. And

2071
02:06:12,400 --> 02:06:14,760
Speaker 1: if you have a team that knows how to monetize properly,

2072
02:06:16,320 --> 02:06:19,200
Speaker 1: it's just I mean, but that's my it's not being

2073
02:06:19,400 --> 02:06:22,400
Speaker 1: gonna It's like, if I could help you make ten

2074
02:06:22,440 --> 02:06:26,160
Speaker 1: million dollars, please do that right And if God, but

2075
02:06:26,240 --> 02:06:28,680
Speaker 1: if I even needed something from you, I think you

2076
02:06:28,680 --> 02:06:31,840
Speaker 1: would be there for me. And I'm not talking about money, right.

2077
02:06:32,120 --> 02:06:35,080
Speaker 1: So that's always been my thing with me and Puff

2078
02:06:35,080 --> 02:06:37,040
Speaker 1: were together at BMG, even though he was at our

2079
02:06:37,120 --> 02:06:39,560
Speaker 1: stuff and I was at our say, I gave him

2080
02:06:39,600 --> 02:06:43,400
Speaker 1: my connect to the chairman's boss, the chim that's what

2081
02:06:43,560 --> 02:06:46,560
Speaker 1: he calls himself. Now go himselves. The Chiman that makes

2082
02:06:46,640 --> 02:06:53,680
Speaker 1: looks for the Chimman. So that's how I've always just

2083
02:06:55,520 --> 02:06:59,080
Speaker 1: in life. If if I if I could help you, great,

2084
02:06:59,120 --> 02:07:01,240
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna watched the but I'm not asking for

2085
02:07:01,280 --> 02:07:04,040
Speaker 1: anything in return. I still got to rely on myself

2086
02:07:04,160 --> 02:07:05,560
Speaker 1: and my team to do what we have to do

2087
02:07:06,280 --> 02:07:08,640
Speaker 1: all right now. So we also know if you have

2088
02:07:08,880 --> 02:07:11,800
Speaker 1: like like the good music connected, is that good music

2089
02:07:11,840 --> 02:07:17,080
Speaker 1: connects coming out at this show? I don't think so

2090
02:07:17,440 --> 02:07:20,360
Speaker 1: is it a DMX like you know out of if

2091
02:07:20,440 --> 02:07:23,960
Speaker 1: we have straight to the motherfucking there might be something.

2092
02:07:24,000 --> 02:07:27,520
Speaker 1: It might be something like that because if you remember

2093
02:07:27,640 --> 02:07:31,920
Speaker 1: ran right he had on the third album of the

2094
02:07:32,000 --> 02:07:35,640
Speaker 1: Flex album, we had the first single with DMX, I

2095
02:07:35,640 --> 02:07:39,440
Speaker 1: don't single was that I forget the name of it was.

2096
02:07:39,840 --> 02:07:42,480
Speaker 1: We shot the video in Toronto. We shot the videos

2097
02:07:44,600 --> 02:07:48,000
Speaker 1: you remember, and then the dog ran off the runway

2098
02:07:48,120 --> 02:07:50,960
Speaker 1: ors what I mean? It was something yeah, yeah, So

2099
02:07:52,880 --> 02:07:54,520
Speaker 1: when they gave all the drugs to the white guy

2100
02:07:56,400 --> 02:08:06,200
Speaker 1: because customs came out the private yea even one more shot.

2101
02:08:11,960 --> 02:08:15,440
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Was you know, ex is crazy out of

2102
02:08:15,520 --> 02:08:18,720
Speaker 1: his mind. Great guys, but we had my school and

2103
02:08:18,840 --> 02:08:24,040
Speaker 1: Chris working taught us. Yeah, they were Christmas called. We

2104
02:08:24,200 --> 02:08:26,600
Speaker 1: stayed outside the excess house for maybe two hours while

2105
02:08:26,640 --> 02:08:29,560
Speaker 1: the jets just sat there. No one knew if you

2106
02:08:29,600 --> 02:08:31,760
Speaker 1: were going to come. Every I was nervous. I was

2107
02:08:31,960 --> 02:08:36,440
Speaker 1: like a confused in front of um excess house. We

2108
02:08:36,520 --> 02:08:40,040
Speaker 1: put the jet so planes the way you said it

2109
02:08:40,800 --> 02:08:47,360
Speaker 1: was actually experting in white planes and we had the

2110
02:08:47,440 --> 02:08:49,240
Speaker 1: jet originally coming out of teter where we moved to

2111
02:08:49,320 --> 02:08:52,200
Speaker 1: jet from Teterborough to white planes to just make it

2112
02:08:52,280 --> 02:08:56,320
Speaker 1: as easy as possible. He still didn't make it. I

2113
02:08:56,320 --> 02:08:58,440
Speaker 1: think it's liver in my kissco though at all time.

2114
02:08:58,520 --> 02:09:03,520
Speaker 1: Actually he made it. We got there late, hours, hours,

2115
02:09:03,640 --> 02:09:07,000
Speaker 1: laid over, just crazy, but we made it. It happened.

2116
02:09:07,280 --> 02:09:12,600
Speaker 1: And remember remember Leo calling me. He goes, he is

2117
02:09:12,640 --> 02:09:16,160
Speaker 1: my biggest artist and I'm gonna do everything possible not

2118
02:09:16,320 --> 02:09:19,600
Speaker 1: to make this happen. You know that whole ship caused

2119
02:09:19,640 --> 02:09:25,560
Speaker 1: a whole lot of problems. We're talking about Chris so

2120
02:09:26,120 --> 02:09:30,400
Speaker 1: you just for a performance that he became the singing

2121
02:09:33,760 --> 02:09:36,920
Speaker 1: so just just him recording the records. The problem video

2122
02:09:37,400 --> 02:09:40,080
Speaker 1: he did video, he didn't get the video everything. He

2123
02:09:40,160 --> 02:09:43,280
Speaker 1: did twelve million records in what six months, So he's

2124
02:09:43,320 --> 02:09:47,280
Speaker 1: def Jam's biggest artist. Chris, we've def jam to come

2125
02:09:47,680 --> 02:09:51,360
Speaker 1: become our partner pretty much right and then and then Todd,

2126
02:09:51,520 --> 02:09:54,480
Speaker 1: I'm in Italy. I know that you're gonna stop because

2127
02:09:55,320 --> 02:09:57,400
Speaker 1: I kept saying you were the first things, like listen,

2128
02:09:57,480 --> 02:10:00,360
Speaker 1: we gotta the last name is very important. We say

2129
02:10:00,960 --> 02:10:04,840
Speaker 1: we need our listeners to google ship in Moscow. So

2130
02:10:04,920 --> 02:10:10,200
Speaker 1: Tom Musto was left. He was so with Chris, he

2131
02:10:10,400 --> 02:10:12,640
Speaker 1: was even death Champ. We didn't even have the deal yet.

2132
02:10:12,840 --> 02:10:14,720
Speaker 1: But I guess Leo found out and he kicked him

2133
02:10:14,720 --> 02:10:17,920
Speaker 1: out of the bill. Am I correct? And there's something

2134
02:10:18,000 --> 02:10:22,560
Speaker 1: he found out? Yeah, I'm in Italy dealing with the

2135
02:10:22,680 --> 02:10:29,280
Speaker 1: new owner of Red Distribution, which we which we still

2136
02:10:29,360 --> 02:10:35,520
Speaker 1: known to this day. We had a sign off on

2137
02:10:35,640 --> 02:10:37,640
Speaker 1: the deal and I wasn't signing off. I was a

2138
02:10:37,720 --> 02:10:40,640
Speaker 1: knucklehead in those days. I wasn't right and le Or

2139
02:10:40,920 --> 02:10:42,720
Speaker 1: I don't have the funk. He reached me, but he

2140
02:10:42,840 --> 02:10:47,760
Speaker 1: found me in Lake Pomo, Italy, and he says, I'm

2141
02:10:47,800 --> 02:10:54,400
Speaker 1: gonna do it. This is very right. I'm gonna do

2142
02:10:54,600 --> 02:10:59,360
Speaker 1: everything possible. When does Alfacino come into the picture again,

2143
02:11:00,280 --> 02:11:06,919
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do everything possible to block this. Just DMX

2144
02:11:06,960 --> 02:11:10,680
Speaker 1: being on a single, but I don't think it was

2145
02:11:10,680 --> 02:11:13,960
Speaker 1: about me. I think it was more about Chris Moscut's leaving.

2146
02:11:15,120 --> 02:11:18,320
Speaker 1: All right, so I'm going to funk with y'all. Chris came.

2147
02:11:18,400 --> 02:11:22,120
Speaker 1: Chris came first, and then Moscuts came like six months. Yeah,

2148
02:11:22,120 --> 02:11:25,280
Speaker 1: I can see where Leo is coming from. You guys

2149
02:11:25,760 --> 02:11:27,560
Speaker 1: that I would have done the same you guys was

2150
02:11:27,640 --> 02:11:30,440
Speaker 1: a threat and then you had the number one album

2151
02:11:30,520 --> 02:11:34,520
Speaker 1: on your first single, number one. Honest, he was ruthless, bro,

2152
02:11:34,760 --> 02:11:36,040
Speaker 1: he was true. This just makes a nice for me.

2153
02:11:36,240 --> 02:11:42,760
Speaker 1: Who you are? Who you are, bro? Like who you are?

2154
02:11:42,840 --> 02:11:45,160
Speaker 1: Do you still have it? I mean, I'm just me.

2155
02:11:45,680 --> 02:11:50,880
Speaker 1: I mean. And then and so ship got my notes

2156
02:11:58,880 --> 02:12:06,839
Speaker 1: so that say you're Kanye but you're on the dogs.

2157
02:12:06,960 --> 02:12:11,000
Speaker 1: It was great. Oh, we hope to see for him soon.

2158
02:12:11,920 --> 02:12:18,360
Speaker 1: Is that with focuses? So when I left Kanye, okay,

2159
02:12:19,040 --> 02:12:23,600
Speaker 1: are you left one of Kanye's things recently? Did you

2160
02:12:23,640 --> 02:12:25,880
Speaker 1: make it happen? That's so I'm gonna tell I'll tell

2161
02:12:25,920 --> 02:12:29,120
Speaker 1: you how the whole thing with it? So who No,

2162
02:12:29,280 --> 02:12:35,400
Speaker 1: it was neutral with me and ye and I got

2163
02:12:35,440 --> 02:12:37,760
Speaker 1: a phone call from the head of c A Music

2164
02:12:37,840 --> 02:12:49,200
Speaker 1: to barm c I c A created nation. That's totally wrong.

2165
02:12:49,640 --> 02:12:56,840
Speaker 1: So let's say it very confident. See. So they said

2166
02:12:56,880 --> 02:12:59,280
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do now? And I was like,

2167
02:13:00,000 --> 02:13:02,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm gonna You know, he just paid

2168
02:13:02,520 --> 02:13:04,400
Speaker 1: me literally for two years, and he was spending me

2169
02:13:04,440 --> 02:13:07,000
Speaker 1: a lot of one. So I said, I'm going to

2170
02:13:07,080 --> 02:13:08,520
Speaker 1: figure it out, but I know I want I don't

2171
02:13:08,560 --> 02:13:09,960
Speaker 1: know if I want to work anybody again. I want

2172
02:13:09,960 --> 02:13:13,440
Speaker 1: my own thing. He goes, there's this management company that

2173
02:13:13,560 --> 02:13:16,760
Speaker 1: manage a whole bunch of dance arts, Um, Steve Ioki,

2174
02:13:17,120 --> 02:13:19,000
Speaker 1: you know, a whole bunch of DJs. You just got

2175
02:13:19,080 --> 02:13:21,480
Speaker 1: a shipload of money from a company, from a private

2176
02:13:21,520 --> 02:13:23,240
Speaker 1: equity company out of London, and they're looking to go

2177
02:13:23,320 --> 02:13:25,080
Speaker 1: into the urban space. Do you want to take a

2178
02:13:25,160 --> 02:13:30,920
Speaker 1: meeting with that? So I was like, all right, cool,

2179
02:13:31,840 --> 02:13:36,480
Speaker 1: take the meeting and we work at the deal where

2180
02:13:36,960 --> 02:13:46,200
Speaker 1: it's called lab Management, and I had nobody um, And

2181
02:13:46,280 --> 02:13:53,640
Speaker 1: then X performed at Sunday Service Wow. And that night,

2182
02:13:54,560 --> 02:13:58,920
Speaker 1: that Sunday night after I had a dream that I

2183
02:13:59,080 --> 02:14:03,320
Speaker 1: was gonna make his new comeback out a dream a dream.

2184
02:14:04,000 --> 02:14:08,280
Speaker 1: So I called Rich Isaacson. I was like, who's managing X?

2185
02:14:09,000 --> 02:14:10,440
Speaker 1: And you said, I got the name with pat Alla,

2186
02:14:13,240 --> 02:14:16,160
Speaker 1: right and so I tried calling Pat, didn't call me back.

2187
02:14:16,600 --> 02:14:21,080
Speaker 1: You know, you know this, So Ali got me a Pat,

2188
02:14:22,600 --> 02:14:28,480
Speaker 1: flew to New York, sat down with um X, worked

2189
02:14:28,520 --> 02:14:32,000
Speaker 1: it out, sat down with the Rough Riders, who I love,

2190
02:14:32,920 --> 02:14:39,280
Speaker 1: UM work what they needed, and now the next month

2191
02:14:39,320 --> 02:14:41,320
Speaker 1: or two we're going to make a new album. Okay,

2192
02:14:41,840 --> 02:14:46,480
Speaker 1: he's he's he's because I'm really not abbressed. Um is

2193
02:14:46,560 --> 02:14:56,560
Speaker 1: he out of exactly? Okay? Big him up? Feel um?

2194
02:14:56,920 --> 02:15:03,480
Speaker 1: You know, I realized, like yesterday was the interview a

2195
02:15:03,480 --> 02:15:05,640
Speaker 1: little way, and I realized how much of a box

2196
02:15:05,840 --> 02:15:08,520
Speaker 1: that he put himself in. And I realized how much

2197
02:15:08,520 --> 02:15:12,320
Speaker 1: of a box I put myself in. But I don't

2198
02:15:12,360 --> 02:15:14,880
Speaker 1: never want to be in a super box. So the

2199
02:15:14,960 --> 02:15:16,640
Speaker 1: fact that I didn't even know what d MX is

2200
02:15:16,640 --> 02:15:19,320
Speaker 1: out makes me know that I gotta get back off

2201
02:15:19,360 --> 02:15:21,520
Speaker 1: my ship. I gotta. I should have knew that I

2202
02:15:21,760 --> 02:15:24,200
Speaker 1: should That shouldn't have been a question. One of the shot.

2203
02:15:24,400 --> 02:15:32,560
Speaker 1: Let's done at the shots that your living Pepper got

2204
02:15:32,600 --> 02:15:39,520
Speaker 1: Living Pepper. Yeah, I know that too. Let's take the shot. Yeah,

2205
02:15:42,360 --> 02:15:45,720
Speaker 1: a lot of motherfucker brackets, brand Yak and John our

2206
02:15:45,800 --> 02:15:54,000
Speaker 1: motherfucker Rifkin and motherfucker's Steve and Steve Riber your interviews.

2207
02:15:54,040 --> 02:15:56,400
Speaker 1: Who want to do something that we implicated new It's

2208
02:15:56,440 --> 02:15:59,320
Speaker 1: called quick Time with Slime? Are you ready? Six slime?

2209
02:16:00,880 --> 02:16:06,040
Speaker 1: Holy moldy? What come only folks? You know what time

2210
02:16:06,120 --> 02:16:08,760
Speaker 1: it is? He knows what time it is. She knows

2211
02:16:08,840 --> 02:16:10,920
Speaker 1: what time it is. And I think we know what

2212
02:16:11,160 --> 02:16:16,440
Speaker 1: time it is. It is quick time. What's America's favorite

2213
02:16:18,000 --> 02:16:26,720
Speaker 1: game show? Holding? We're just gonna give you one. You

2214
02:16:26,760 --> 02:16:29,080
Speaker 1: just gotta just picking one real quick and just can't

2215
02:16:29,840 --> 02:16:32,640
Speaker 1: not doing all right? Okay, it's just big picker one,

2216
02:16:32,720 --> 02:16:37,119
Speaker 1: pick one, pick one, don't give you two choices? You ready? Yeah?

2217
02:16:38,000 --> 02:16:41,360
Speaker 1: Brief the boxes? That's that. I didn't see this coming,

2218
02:16:42,360 --> 02:16:49,240
Speaker 1: MP Martha. Any of it is my favorite record of

2219
02:16:49,400 --> 02:17:00,160
Speaker 1: all Time's great person Lis Damn. That's that's I'm mean.

2220
02:17:01,680 --> 02:17:05,360
Speaker 1: They're twins, right, so I can't let you get away

2221
02:17:07,200 --> 02:17:10,760
Speaker 1: because he's got maybe more. It's a real great No

2222
02:17:10,879 --> 02:17:14,160
Speaker 1: they were who time was my first child? Okay boom

2223
02:17:14,480 --> 02:17:19,280
Speaker 1: somm d mov boom big fun ex int it bo

2224
02:17:20,760 --> 02:17:26,920
Speaker 1: I can't answer that. Vegas, my head, Vegas. Should you

2225
02:17:27,000 --> 02:17:31,480
Speaker 1: want to say that? But yeah, but you know that's

2226
02:17:32,240 --> 02:17:36,640
Speaker 1: that's where I had to keep the key. Bob White woman,

2227
02:17:36,720 --> 02:17:40,000
Speaker 1: black woman, you know that answer? What needs you to

2228
02:17:40,040 --> 02:17:47,680
Speaker 1: answer with them? Blackman? Okay, Chris comment is suicide of

2229
02:17:47,840 --> 02:17:58,000
Speaker 1: christ not cost Kristin not people keep dropping of it

2230
02:17:58,360 --> 02:18:01,680
Speaker 1: my head. Um, okay, hold on, hold on, let's do it. No,

2231
02:18:01,840 --> 02:18:06,200
Speaker 1: it's jaz. I'm not answering that great office like that

2232
02:18:06,879 --> 02:18:10,400
Speaker 1: two black bag, not answering that either. But Tupac was

2233
02:18:10,440 --> 02:18:22,920
Speaker 1: my roommate though room start. The best roommates have to

2234
02:18:23,040 --> 02:18:29,840
Speaker 1: rock carry. I didn't take it from so you're Tupac?

2235
02:18:30,120 --> 02:18:36,200
Speaker 1: What happened his first album, Jimmy Hi at us don't

2236
02:18:36,240 --> 02:18:39,200
Speaker 1: get He wasn't on Yeah, they just Scope. Originally he

2237
02:18:39,320 --> 02:18:41,760
Speaker 1: was through a guy any of agent Gregory and Let's Go.

2238
02:18:42,440 --> 02:18:47,360
Speaker 1: Athan Gregory managed did You Don't Underground? They signed Pop's Go.

2239
02:18:49,240 --> 02:18:53,560
Speaker 1: So we would do these promotion to us Thursday to Monday,

2240
02:18:55,200 --> 02:18:58,760
Speaker 1: come back sometime one day, and then we'd have to

2241
02:18:58,760 --> 02:19:02,160
Speaker 1: go back out on Thursday using Wednesday. He's staying at

2242
02:19:02,200 --> 02:19:05,640
Speaker 1: my place for a year? Is it in l A

2243
02:19:06,040 --> 02:19:09,400
Speaker 1: in l A studio city? Wow, like a live bust.

2244
02:19:09,400 --> 02:19:12,160
Speaker 1: The rhymes told me someone lives to the same story.

2245
02:19:13,120 --> 02:19:16,840
Speaker 1: We're gonna keep playing quick Slid with Fly Are you ready?

2246
02:19:16,840 --> 02:19:21,160
Speaker 1: Flat has you ready. That was a great story. He

2247
02:19:21,240 --> 02:19:25,760
Speaker 1: brought away all ready we left over two pocket Biggie. Yeah.

2248
02:19:27,080 --> 02:19:28,640
Speaker 1: I feel like you disagree with me. I feel like

2249
02:19:28,680 --> 02:19:33,960
Speaker 1: you don't know what? Yeah you ready alight? Cool po

2250
02:19:35,120 --> 02:19:44,119
Speaker 1: little kid with Fox Bro Kim, Kevin mar or Chris Rock. Wow,

2251
02:19:48,600 --> 02:19:55,720
Speaker 1: I'm going with Christian I was good alcohol Onleen. I

2252
02:19:55,800 --> 02:20:08,400
Speaker 1: don't either quality control music or t d E man.

2253
02:20:08,680 --> 02:20:11,760
Speaker 1: So to me, it's two different types of It's like

2254
02:20:12,280 --> 02:20:15,000
Speaker 1: it's just one questions. I got it. You know this

2255
02:20:15,160 --> 02:20:19,560
Speaker 1: is m It's it's like bad boy and live that's

2256
02:20:19,600 --> 02:20:27,320
Speaker 1: fucking phenomenal. You gotta pick one, man, I'm living with's

2257
02:20:27,360 --> 02:20:31,800
Speaker 1: gonging with top okay, cash money at that brong cash

2258
02:20:31,840 --> 02:20:38,520
Speaker 1: money Okay, that is the quintessential right now, eminem m

2259
02:20:38,640 --> 02:20:48,040
Speaker 1: g k or geez ham on that and that is

2260
02:20:48,120 --> 02:20:56,800
Speaker 1: called the quicker time side. That was all. I'm sorry. So,

2261
02:20:56,920 --> 02:20:59,600
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I love I love my ship. I'm just

2262
02:20:59,680 --> 02:21:06,160
Speaker 1: being so now we got us all together? Huh, what

2263
02:21:07,200 --> 02:21:10,040
Speaker 1: what's going on? I got a chicken wing. You got

2264
02:21:10,080 --> 02:21:14,280
Speaker 1: a chicken wing over there, chicken wing of chick away

2265
02:21:15,000 --> 02:21:24,080
Speaker 1: sick so yo. So now this is the first loud experience.

2266
02:21:24,440 --> 02:21:31,040
Speaker 1: What's it called without experience. Damn you named it the

2267
02:21:31,280 --> 02:21:39,520
Speaker 1: Loud experience times Strange Champs experience experience. I got one

2268
02:21:39,560 --> 02:21:41,920
Speaker 1: more shot left to me before I wrap it up.

2269
02:21:42,560 --> 02:21:47,480
Speaker 1: Do you realize the rabbit up the shot? The shot exit? Yeah,

2270
02:21:47,520 --> 02:21:53,920
Speaker 1: shot exit speech rabbit UPO. Yeah, that's so safe. It's safe.

2271
02:21:55,040 --> 02:21:57,920
Speaker 1: So we asked every way show that comes here, and

2272
02:21:58,040 --> 02:22:00,280
Speaker 1: we asked every you know, I guess to come. Yeah,

2273
02:22:00,520 --> 02:22:03,720
Speaker 1: what is your favorite error in the hip hop? Give

2274
02:22:03,800 --> 02:22:06,840
Speaker 1: us a timid ten ten years spent or give us

2275
02:22:06,879 --> 02:22:10,000
Speaker 1: this your fucking army us. It doesn't matter. I mean,

2276
02:22:10,080 --> 02:22:13,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say my ladder okay, and now his loud

2277
02:22:14,520 --> 02:22:17,160
Speaker 1: can you assump is loud? That is that a ten

2278
02:22:17,280 --> 02:22:20,680
Speaker 1: year for one year of what year? Two thousand two?

2279
02:22:21,840 --> 02:22:26,600
Speaker 1: It's definitely yeah. I think it won that one. Yeah,

2280
02:22:26,640 --> 02:22:35,120
Speaker 1: I think. All right, okay, all right, I agree ninety

2281
02:22:35,160 --> 02:22:37,920
Speaker 1: two two thousand or two. Have we think the best

2282
02:22:37,959 --> 02:22:43,959
Speaker 1: era bestr Yeah, ninety two two thousand two. I agree? Well, well,

2283
02:22:44,000 --> 02:22:47,000
Speaker 1: hold on, hold actually no, no, I gotta say eight.

2284
02:22:48,800 --> 02:22:51,800
Speaker 1: I gotta say, man, I'm probably also biased, you know.

2285
02:22:51,879 --> 02:22:54,760
Speaker 1: I think the time when I went but to two

2286
02:22:54,840 --> 02:22:58,160
Speaker 1: thousand and seven, that era that was really driven by

2287
02:22:58,320 --> 02:23:03,880
Speaker 1: Rockefeller rough Riders. M hm to me, that one my

2288
02:23:03,959 --> 02:23:08,400
Speaker 1: favorite name. I had another run from two thousand to

2289
02:23:09,280 --> 02:23:11,720
Speaker 1: two thousand ten, which might even be bigger than that

2290
02:23:12,000 --> 02:23:14,120
Speaker 1: when Vanner got it. This is a kind of bad

2291
02:23:14,720 --> 02:23:21,560
Speaker 1: and yeah, just sport the city and heat doing different

2292
02:23:22,440 --> 02:23:26,360
Speaker 1: sort the city would like everything, right, No, no, you

2293
02:23:26,440 --> 02:23:28,480
Speaker 1: guys are killing it big up to David Banner. He's

2294
02:23:28,480 --> 02:23:32,200
Speaker 1: a big friend of the show as well. He might

2295
02:23:32,280 --> 02:23:40,360
Speaker 1: be giving us a surprise music David. That's basically takes

2296
02:23:40,400 --> 02:23:45,400
Speaker 1: some shots. So I see loud, motherfucking records, Steve, motherfucker

2297
02:23:45,480 --> 02:23:48,800
Speaker 1: rip John, We're fucking ready act that we're all here.

2298
02:23:49,959 --> 02:23:59,200
Speaker 1: I am gonna take this down. That's wants you to know. Man.

2299
02:24:00,120 --> 02:24:04,520
Speaker 1: You know, in our game neue time people get you know,

2300
02:24:04,640 --> 02:24:07,120
Speaker 1: ten years or more, and they want to kick us

2301
02:24:07,160 --> 02:24:10,280
Speaker 1: out of this game. And the thing is, the more

2302
02:24:10,440 --> 02:24:14,560
Speaker 1: you get seasoned your wine, the more better it tastes.

2303
02:24:15,520 --> 02:24:18,360
Speaker 1: The morning you get knocked down, the better you got up.

2304
02:24:20,800 --> 02:24:23,920
Speaker 1: Nobody thought that was good, right, s RC might not

2305
02:24:24,000 --> 02:24:26,200
Speaker 1: have been as cool as Live, but it was just

2306
02:24:26,320 --> 02:24:30,160
Speaker 1: as big as not bigger. So before we get up

2307
02:24:30,200 --> 02:24:36,360
Speaker 1: out of here, everything's going And how did the health

2308
02:24:36,680 --> 02:24:40,520
Speaker 1: like how did the health like just up? Yeah, like

2309
02:24:40,879 --> 02:24:42,760
Speaker 1: what was going on? I never went to a doctor.

2310
02:24:44,480 --> 02:24:48,880
Speaker 1: You're you're like really black. That's like I didn't go

2311
02:24:48,920 --> 02:24:54,359
Speaker 1: to the doctor thirty years Okay, damn yeah that's really black. Continue.

2312
02:24:55,080 --> 02:24:57,480
Speaker 1: So it was my so if I went to a

2313
02:24:57,520 --> 02:24:59,200
Speaker 1: doctor that he would told me my blood pressure was

2314
02:24:59,280 --> 02:25:02,360
Speaker 1: sucked up like shore, it was stopped up, getting the

2315
02:25:02,440 --> 02:25:06,640
Speaker 1: boss a lot of stress games, weight that I shouldn't

2316
02:25:06,640 --> 02:25:16,920
Speaker 1: have gained. That was that was before. So just I

2317
02:25:16,959 --> 02:25:19,920
Speaker 1: mean I died three times? Wow? Wait you said he

2318
02:25:20,080 --> 02:25:25,480
Speaker 1: died three times? Um the table? I mean where was

2319
02:25:25,520 --> 02:25:29,520
Speaker 1: it during the table emergency? In the emergency room? Yeah,

2320
02:25:31,680 --> 02:25:41,880
Speaker 1: they shocked him three times a shock? Who shocked? Do

2321
02:25:41,959 --> 02:25:45,120
Speaker 1: you remember that? So it was Christmas Eve six years

2322
02:25:45,120 --> 02:25:47,760
Speaker 1: ago with this best Christmas Eve. I was playing my

2323
02:25:47,879 --> 02:25:50,000
Speaker 1: oldest Sun was still in high school, but he was

2324
02:25:50,040 --> 02:25:53,840
Speaker 1: a basketball player. He dunked on me and he was

2325
02:25:53,879 --> 02:25:56,240
Speaker 1: hanging from the rim and his nuts was in my face.

2326
02:25:56,959 --> 02:25:59,160
Speaker 1: So I so I punched him in the face, not

2327
02:25:59,280 --> 02:26:01,560
Speaker 1: out of anger, joking around like this is the most

2328
02:26:01,640 --> 02:26:04,640
Speaker 1: disrespectful a sunk and ever a dude to a spot.

2329
02:26:06,640 --> 02:26:12,560
Speaker 1: So my ex wife is from Trinidad, so she sees

2330
02:26:12,600 --> 02:26:15,640
Speaker 1: what's going on and her accents. She starts jelling at me,

2331
02:26:15,720 --> 02:26:19,240
Speaker 1: calling me an animal, this, that, But we're laughing. Next thing,

2332
02:26:19,280 --> 02:26:22,560
Speaker 1: you know, I can't breathe all right, and I don't

2333
02:26:22,600 --> 02:26:23,880
Speaker 1: have chest pains, but I have a pain in my

2334
02:26:23,959 --> 02:26:26,160
Speaker 1: back around. I said, maybe I pulled the muscle from

2335
02:26:26,160 --> 02:26:27,920
Speaker 1: the swing. I mean, I had no idea what it was.

2336
02:26:29,240 --> 02:26:31,360
Speaker 1: I said, something doesn't matter. She goes, just take a

2337
02:26:31,360 --> 02:26:35,560
Speaker 1: shower and go sleep. It's Christmas. Seed. No, we're in.

2338
02:26:36,240 --> 02:26:43,640
Speaker 1: We're in close enough. I go, I'm staying in her

2339
02:26:43,680 --> 02:26:47,280
Speaker 1: guesthouse was very beautiful too as well. I'm staying in

2340
02:26:47,320 --> 02:26:50,560
Speaker 1: a guesthouse. I call nine one, take his annex and

2341
02:26:50,720 --> 02:26:56,720
Speaker 1: take a shower. They came and said, oh, you gotta

2342
02:26:56,800 --> 02:27:01,840
Speaker 1: take you in. He took me and remember them cutting

2343
02:27:01,879 --> 02:27:04,560
Speaker 1: my shirt. Tell me I am having an art attack.

2344
02:27:06,240 --> 02:27:08,960
Speaker 1: And there's the doctor. Actually, the doctor who was in

2345
02:27:08,959 --> 02:27:12,080
Speaker 1: the emergency room was my father's doctor. He goes, are

2346
02:27:12,160 --> 02:27:14,800
Speaker 1: you related to Julie Rifkin. I'm like yeah, he goes,

2347
02:27:14,840 --> 02:27:17,600
Speaker 1: I'm his doctor. So I felt some type of because

2348
02:27:17,640 --> 02:27:22,480
Speaker 1: he lived down here. Oh my dad, yeah, um, because

2349
02:27:22,520 --> 02:27:25,360
Speaker 1: the doctor was Yeah, the doctor was my dad's doctor.

2350
02:27:25,440 --> 02:27:29,720
Speaker 1: So I felt literally and next thing, you know, the

2351
02:27:30,080 --> 02:27:32,320
Speaker 1: thing that they put in your throat to keep your breathing.

2352
02:27:33,000 --> 02:27:38,360
Speaker 1: I ripped it out and yeah, not a good looking that.

2353
02:27:40,600 --> 02:27:43,680
Speaker 1: It's just kind of it's kind of it's kind of weird,

2354
02:27:43,760 --> 02:27:46,360
Speaker 1: like you're talking about your U. But I don't know

2355
02:27:46,520 --> 02:27:50,480
Speaker 1: if I funked up my lion next um and I

2356
02:27:50,560 --> 02:27:55,440
Speaker 1: was in the hospital for a week and ever since then,

2357
02:27:55,560 --> 02:27:59,440
Speaker 1: you know, God bless me, you know, so just God

2358
02:27:59,520 --> 02:28:09,440
Speaker 1: bless amen. So can you say hold before that, no

2359
02:28:09,600 --> 02:28:12,039
Speaker 1: lessen to the jay Z story. Yeah, man, you guys

2360
02:28:12,120 --> 02:28:15,600
Speaker 1: were leaving. No before that. You have to get a

2361
02:28:15,760 --> 02:28:18,000
Speaker 1: jay Z story because I feel like this was like

2362
02:28:18,160 --> 02:28:22,640
Speaker 1: twice that you drive like, so what what? What exactly happened?

2363
02:28:23,360 --> 02:28:26,360
Speaker 1: So I go back with Dames since sixteen years old

2364
02:28:26,840 --> 02:28:33,600
Speaker 1: Dan Right? So Damien's managing Original Flavors with his cousin

2365
02:28:34,040 --> 02:28:41,240
Speaker 1: Damien Right and I had a relationship and I was

2366
02:28:41,280 --> 02:28:45,920
Speaker 1: doing the promotion for Original Flavor. Were they signed to

2367
02:28:45,959 --> 02:28:49,520
Speaker 1: a label? Day was signed to? Okay, Oh so c

2368
02:28:50,080 --> 02:28:56,040
Speaker 1: Craik Cowbor wasn't did that long? Craig was that? Yeah right,

2369
02:28:56,160 --> 02:29:00,920
Speaker 1: he wasn't the Bosher, but Craig was connected. Craig is

2370
02:29:00,920 --> 02:29:02,480
Speaker 1: one that was putting me on all these rugs. You listen,

2371
02:29:02,480 --> 02:29:04,959
Speaker 1: If Craig Day is original flavor, I'm gonna be Craig

2372
02:29:05,040 --> 02:29:15,039
Speaker 1: signed boys, bad boys, bad boys. You know, family did

2373
02:29:15,080 --> 02:29:18,080
Speaker 1: should be nobody in that building bigger than Correc should

2374
02:29:18,080 --> 02:29:24,240
Speaker 1: be the biggest dude in the by. Now that was something.

2375
02:29:24,640 --> 02:29:28,480
Speaker 1: This was I'll tell you exactly what that day with

2376
02:29:28,520 --> 02:29:31,000
Speaker 1: a teenager. So I'll tell you exactly what it was.

2377
02:29:31,280 --> 02:29:34,000
Speaker 1: I'm asking you, is Julia Mike kas is bigger than Craig. No, No,

2378
02:29:34,879 --> 02:29:38,680
Speaker 1: Julie No. Kaiser's head of Urban um D, president of

2379
02:29:39,000 --> 02:29:44,560
Speaker 1: Erman CEO and Craig All right there, all right, I'm sorry.

2380
02:29:44,640 --> 02:29:47,840
Speaker 1: Continue the day that Christian Latner hit the shot against

2381
02:29:47,920 --> 02:29:51,920
Speaker 1: Kentucky Christian lay what was that ninety two nine two?

2382
02:29:52,879 --> 02:29:56,560
Speaker 1: That's when, um, that's when I met Damon's cousin, Darren

2383
02:29:57,440 --> 02:30:02,200
Speaker 1: d So cut to because darreny here Denver sell a

2384
02:30:02,280 --> 02:30:11,080
Speaker 1: lot of wet and assisted Stacy does, right, So cut

2385
02:30:11,160 --> 02:30:19,000
Speaker 1: to ninety you know whatever it was, Dane, Jay come

2386
02:30:19,080 --> 02:30:23,320
Speaker 1: to the office, well maybe just dat and he plays me.

2387
02:30:23,920 --> 02:30:27,960
Speaker 1: Jay's out. I want to do the I want to

2388
02:30:28,000 --> 02:30:32,360
Speaker 1: do right, but I have to get permission, as I'll see, no,

2389
02:30:32,800 --> 02:30:35,760
Speaker 1: I have to get permisson from b MG to sign it.

2390
02:30:36,640 --> 02:30:40,240
Speaker 1: It's Claude Davids. No, there was strouds Zelnick and Kevin

2391
02:30:40,360 --> 02:30:45,640
Speaker 1: Zinger so and I forget who the president was at

2392
02:30:45,680 --> 02:30:48,560
Speaker 1: the time, Joe Glante. I think um at our at

2393
02:30:48,600 --> 02:30:54,160
Speaker 1: our c A. And it was the time right around

2394
02:30:54,200 --> 02:30:56,080
Speaker 1: the time that I threw the chair, you know. So

2395
02:30:56,200 --> 02:30:59,200
Speaker 1: it was like, DMG never let me sign Jack or

2396
02:30:59,400 --> 02:31:04,360
Speaker 1: Rocket Fellow. So that's the real story. I mean, I

2397
02:31:04,400 --> 02:31:07,480
Speaker 1: would never pass on something like that. But because I'm

2398
02:31:07,800 --> 02:31:10,640
Speaker 1: like big face Gary, I don't know. I see, I don't.

2399
02:31:10,640 --> 02:31:14,720
Speaker 1: I don't know Gary, because b face Gary his a

2400
02:31:14,840 --> 02:31:20,200
Speaker 1: subject was he came to do you guys, um and

2401
02:31:20,360 --> 02:31:23,760
Speaker 1: you didn't sign. We didn't. We didn't do. But I

2402
02:31:23,920 --> 02:31:25,879
Speaker 1: wanted I had listened to me. I had the best

2403
02:31:25,920 --> 02:31:27,360
Speaker 1: day in our guys in the business. They brought it

2404
02:31:27,440 --> 02:31:30,279
Speaker 1: to me. I was never gonna say no. If Mattie's

2405
02:31:30,320 --> 02:31:33,200
Speaker 1: got free brought something right, I signed punt on the

2406
02:31:33,240 --> 02:31:35,760
Speaker 1: spot without hearing a record because Maddie showed up at

2407
02:31:35,760 --> 02:31:41,199
Speaker 1: the office, did the same Maddie from the source. Yeah yeah, ready,

2408
02:31:41,200 --> 02:31:43,520
Speaker 1: see So that's that's how I signed. That's how I

2409
02:31:43,520 --> 02:31:48,880
Speaker 1: signed Matty was in the the office here, No I

2410
02:31:49,040 --> 02:31:52,440
Speaker 1: found punt was. I was intocogo with Quincy on the

2411
02:31:52,480 --> 02:31:59,440
Speaker 1: private plane. As you know where we are, guy, I

2412
02:31:59,480 --> 02:32:06,320
Speaker 1: didn't even Nicky Benson calls me. Mickey calls me with

2413
02:32:06,400 --> 02:32:09,400
Speaker 1: Fat Joe on the phone. I said, Joe, I mean Chicago.

2414
02:32:09,440 --> 02:32:11,800
Speaker 1: I'll be in New York on Monday. Let's be Tuesday.

2415
02:32:12,480 --> 02:32:15,119
Speaker 1: From Thursday to Tuesday, I must get eight to ten

2416
02:32:15,200 --> 02:32:18,760
Speaker 1: calls that I shouldn't sign Joe because he's a gangster,

2417
02:32:18,879 --> 02:32:23,080
Speaker 1: he's an extortionist, exists, he's that. Joe comes to your office,

2418
02:32:23,120 --> 02:32:24,480
Speaker 1: I said, before we start the meeting, let me talk

2419
02:32:24,480 --> 02:32:26,240
Speaker 1: to you for a second. I said, I got ten

2420
02:32:26,360 --> 02:32:32,640
Speaker 1: calls that I shouldn't sign him or put Everybody says

2421
02:32:32,640 --> 02:32:34,520
Speaker 1: you're a gangster, you're an extortionist, And I said, you

2422
02:32:34,600 --> 02:32:36,800
Speaker 1: know what, but I'm a gangster and I love gangsters.

2423
02:32:37,840 --> 02:32:46,640
Speaker 1: I said, so we're gonna figures out that anaming. That's well.

2424
02:32:46,680 --> 02:32:50,800
Speaker 1: I love you. Jill is probably one of those people

2425
02:32:50,959 --> 02:32:54,880
Speaker 1: to be in life. Hey till me the same story

2426
02:32:55,440 --> 02:33:06,240
Speaker 1: word for word for big think could have made his

2427
02:33:06,480 --> 02:33:08,880
Speaker 1: side of the story, and you're could have made this

2428
02:33:09,320 --> 02:33:13,800
Speaker 1: your story, and it could be word for word for baid. Wait,

2429
02:33:13,920 --> 02:33:17,720
Speaker 1: it's I just want you to let you know thank you.

2430
02:33:19,000 --> 02:33:28,720
Speaker 1: It believes me like, like, that's that's crazy. So so

2431
02:33:28,840 --> 02:33:31,000
Speaker 1: say I forget, So say we meet. I meet Joe

2432
02:33:31,080 --> 02:33:34,960
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. I'm going back to l A on Thursday.

2433
02:33:35,040 --> 02:33:39,520
Speaker 1: Said can you come back tomorrow and bring Punt and

2434
02:33:39,600 --> 02:33:41,320
Speaker 1: the meetings earlier because I gotta catch a flight back

2435
02:33:41,320 --> 02:33:44,720
Speaker 1: to l A. So me say around eleven o'clock and Maddie,

2436
02:33:44,840 --> 02:33:48,119
Speaker 1: who has she had an office with, is in the office.

2437
02:33:48,120 --> 02:33:50,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the funk are you doing here again?

2438
02:33:50,920 --> 02:33:53,280
Speaker 1: I got a six figure of royalty check waiting for

2439
02:33:53,320 --> 02:33:57,200
Speaker 1: him that he hasn't picked up in six weeks. Maddow,

2440
02:33:58,440 --> 02:34:01,560
Speaker 1: here's an ant your meeting punk. I'm like, you came

2441
02:34:01,640 --> 02:34:05,320
Speaker 1: for this. The second day, walk into the meeting Joe

2442
02:34:05,400 --> 02:34:07,840
Speaker 1: and Pump, I said, you gotta deal. Who's your lawyer?

2443
02:34:07,920 --> 02:34:09,920
Speaker 1: Everybody's like, are you bullshit me up? Like, I'm not

2444
02:34:10,040 --> 02:34:11,640
Speaker 1: not bullshitting it, and Maddie goes, well, what are you

2445
02:34:11,640 --> 02:34:13,400
Speaker 1: gonna do? I said, your job to make the ricket

2446
02:34:13,440 --> 02:34:14,800
Speaker 1: and your head push do you want to hear this?

2447
02:34:15,440 --> 02:34:17,560
Speaker 1: And that's how the deal was done. I couick the boy.

2448
02:34:17,560 --> 02:34:20,240
Speaker 1: It was tim and the bout called bigger about them.

2449
02:34:20,800 --> 02:34:24,320
Speaker 1: He was more lawyer at the time, and the deal

2450
02:34:24,440 --> 02:34:33,640
Speaker 1: was done within a week. And what what and you

2451
02:34:33,800 --> 02:34:36,760
Speaker 1: go did you did you think? Like? Because all right,

2452
02:34:36,840 --> 02:34:41,800
Speaker 1: Joe at the time, Um well, I'm not inven sure

2453
02:34:41,920 --> 02:34:44,440
Speaker 1: Joe was kind of gold time. No it wasn't. It

2454
02:34:44,600 --> 02:34:47,280
Speaker 1: wasn't even gold. But he was funny as how. He

2455
02:34:47,400 --> 02:34:50,720
Speaker 1: made me laugh. It was when night. I guess Chris

2456
02:34:50,879 --> 02:34:53,119
Speaker 1: was managing him for a minute two but right, yeah, yes, yes,

2457
02:34:53,240 --> 02:34:55,320
Speaker 1: So there was one day meet and Chris were on

2458
02:34:55,400 --> 02:34:57,120
Speaker 1: the way to play bowling, had to stop at the studio.

2459
02:34:57,879 --> 02:35:00,480
Speaker 1: You and Christmas all the way what played basketball? Okay?

2460
02:35:00,480 --> 02:35:04,600
Speaker 1: All right, and Joe was outside the studio. I don't

2461
02:35:04,600 --> 02:35:07,520
Speaker 1: know Joe at the time, but he cracked a joke.

2462
02:35:07,920 --> 02:35:11,160
Speaker 1: The window was open, and I mean I was just laughing. So,

2463
02:35:12,680 --> 02:35:14,680
Speaker 1: like I said, I can only judge you, but how

2464
02:35:14,680 --> 02:35:18,000
Speaker 1: do you treat me? You know? And that's how I'm

2465
02:35:18,000 --> 02:35:20,000
Speaker 1: going to treat you. So I mean, and that's what

2466
02:35:20,080 --> 02:35:23,800
Speaker 1: people literally called you all said don't yeah, I mean,

2467
02:35:23,840 --> 02:35:26,360
Speaker 1: I don't know who's gonna keep Benton tall. And he's

2468
02:35:26,400 --> 02:35:28,600
Speaker 1: told his story on Drink Care. So many tells it's

2469
02:35:28,720 --> 02:35:32,959
Speaker 1: so great to Yeah, so like, let's say this story

2470
02:35:32,959 --> 02:35:35,080
Speaker 1: because he told his story. So we had a meeting. Um,

2471
02:35:36,120 --> 02:35:39,520
Speaker 1: you know what, Jeremy's the guy from ut Okay, right,

2472
02:35:39,640 --> 02:35:43,080
Speaker 1: so I brought Joe to That's the guy I introduced it.

2473
02:35:43,640 --> 02:35:48,160
Speaker 1: Gu Yeah, so Joe told him the story the end

2474
02:35:48,240 --> 02:35:53,360
Speaker 1: the day and I'm like, yeah, it's true. God damn

2475
02:35:53,400 --> 02:36:00,720
Speaker 1: makes a larger stay working. And then you know, we

2476
02:36:00,800 --> 02:36:05,720
Speaker 1: took Joe to Vegas with us. That's that's because I've

2477
02:36:05,760 --> 02:36:09,640
Speaker 1: been hearing this. You have the keys to a private

2478
02:36:10,120 --> 02:36:13,400
Speaker 1: room in a strip club in Vegas. I mean, I

2479
02:36:13,440 --> 02:36:15,800
Speaker 1: don't know if it's specting the day. I mean it

2480
02:36:16,000 --> 02:36:20,080
Speaker 1: was the Crazy Horse to Crazy Horse. I knew that. Know,

2481
02:36:20,280 --> 02:36:23,480
Speaker 1: if you want to our uncle, our uncle, your uncle

2482
02:36:23,600 --> 02:36:26,960
Speaker 1: all day? What kind of uncle's it sounds like some

2483
02:36:29,200 --> 02:36:33,120
Speaker 1: shot ship, like like mafia ship making the day. I

2484
02:36:33,120 --> 02:36:35,520
Speaker 1: ain't a lot of your father. I ain't a lot

2485
02:36:35,600 --> 02:36:38,760
Speaker 1: your father on the record, Labe when your uncles the car?

2486
02:36:40,240 --> 02:36:46,000
Speaker 1: What's going on here? We're good, we're here high school.

2487
02:36:46,080 --> 02:36:52,920
Speaker 1: This is the mafia? Dog is really I respected? I

2488
02:36:52,959 --> 02:37:02,560
Speaker 1: would saying that we had house in acts in case

2489
02:37:02,600 --> 02:37:05,160
Speaker 1: people don't know, man, and we're doing it man, Yo,

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Speaker 1: Steve Man, thank you for taking time out. But let's

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Speaker 1: also let's pick up this motherfucking concert that's going down.

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Speaker 1: What is it going down? And what date is it?

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Speaker 1: January thirty, New York City Radio City Music Hall, January

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Speaker 1: thirty of motherfucking New York City. A lot of experience,

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Speaker 1: a lot of Tradio City Music Hall having hip hop

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Speaker 1: shows with that man. Tomorrow, I'm going to shot from

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Speaker 1: my jacket because it sounds very cold, because I don't

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Speaker 1: do the cold no more in New York City. Let's

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Speaker 1: try not to. I checked the weather. It says to

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Speaker 1: be degrees. That's cold to me, sir. What was the

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Speaker 1: first hip hop show? Ranging? City Music Cup? What? What

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Speaker 1: was the first hip hop show ranging? I would say

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Speaker 1: the MTB Awards. What was the first one? I think

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02:37:52,800 --> 02:37:56,240
Speaker 1: it was The Roots The Roots in two thousand five

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Speaker 1: with the BC Boys opening from Madonna The Like Emergent album.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I called that all the way

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Speaker 1: hip hop show. Yeah, boys headlines, OBC Boys participated, partician

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Speaker 1: half hip hop, But I don't know you're right with that.

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Speaker 1: Where did they get food? They got? Guys? It was

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Speaker 1: Madonna's crowd, like you know, oh Diabo that Drake at

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Speaker 1: Um Tyler Um the career that crowd tying the Yeah

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Speaker 1: you don't know, like Drake got booed Drake at Tyler's festival.

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Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, I said, the said man definitely whatever that

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Speaker 1: makes it real better. But yeah, yeah that so you

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Speaker 1: said best boys dealt Drake. So this is the Drake

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Speaker 1: Boys from from Madonna. But what tour was it? Like?

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Speaker 1: It was like the Black Emergent talk like up so

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Speaker 1: test for the very Crow saying it's before and everything

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02:38:59,240 --> 02:39:03,040
Speaker 1: knew that act. They were just like getting hot and

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Speaker 1: they but Drake been hot. He's not supposed to be.

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Speaker 1: He's not supposed to be. He was not. Did you

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Speaker 1: see that year? I heard about it. Yet his fans

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Speaker 1: is terrible class. Let's just be clear. I don't want

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Speaker 1: but Tyler responded he was dope the way he like

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Speaker 1: he came back at his fan, Yeah him to fun him?

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Speaker 1: Then he no him? Was he not? When I tried

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Speaker 1: signing him Thylan Future Future, which is sucking ill the

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Speaker 1: whole cruise because up the swasticker what they did? What? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And I guess they were trying to get a reaction

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Speaker 1: out of me, and it was just like a real

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Speaker 1: swastika or the Chinese they drew a real swastick in

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Speaker 1: the conference room the meeting that I was having. Not funny.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, okay, I can't. So I was just

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Speaker 1: like as a little to Yeah, not funny. I think

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Speaker 1: that's we're in it. Yeah, we're just phenomenon. But let's

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Speaker 1: let's what this is this concert again? This is January

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Speaker 1: THIRTI next Thursday, Radio City Music Hall. When this comes

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Speaker 1: out this Thursday, Yes, this Thursday comes out, this coming Thursday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: when this comes out, it's this Thursday, because yeah, being

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Speaker 1: like Monday. Has somebody liked this Thursday, January thirtieth, Yes,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna get up. We're gonna get us up

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Speaker 1: there because Steve got the private platte. There were quite

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Speaker 1: we gotta quis play, you know, just real quick, bring

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Speaker 1: chess for hostess and get the funk about it. He's

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Speaker 1: orchestading in the band. Yeah, man, John d Man, Randy

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Speaker 1: accum Man, y'all, thank y'all for you know, Randia is

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Speaker 1: a part of you know us but you know you guys,

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Speaker 1: but you know, you know, we really appreciate what you do, guys.

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Speaker 1: Till for the business does stan told for your artists

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Speaker 1: and we respect that and thank you guys, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean what and then h drops. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: joining us for another episode of Drink Champs hosted by

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