Speaker 1: Hey, be excited about the show today. I sure am. Here,
Speaker 1: hold the sword. Then when I tell you swing it
Speaker 1: at me? Wait? What Why would I swing a sword
Speaker 1: at you? Because I'm holding this pen. You know the
Speaker 1: old saying the pen is mightier than the sword. Okay,
Speaker 1: I see where this is going be This is a
Speaker 1: bad idea. Well, I was inspired by our two historical
Speaker 1: figures crusading American journalist I'd to be Wells and French
Speaker 1: warrior teen Joan of Arc to see if the pen
Speaker 1: really is mightier than the sword. So you're going to
Speaker 1: swing that sword at me, and I'll see if I
Speaker 1: can stop it with this pen. There's no way this
Speaker 1: will end well. Hey, maybe we'll prove the old saying
Speaker 1: or maybe I'll get my head chopped off. Either way,
Speaker 1: that's good podcasting, good point. Okay, get ready, I'm swinging
Speaker 1: the sword. It worked, the sword shattered. The pen really
Speaker 1: was mightier. I knew it. Hey, before the show starts,
Speaker 1: let's test another phrase. Here, hold this leopard. I'm going
Speaker 1: to see if I can change its spots mpletely leaves
Speaker 1: on he bo. Do you think you know about the
Speaker 1: grates from this story? The game is on to get
Speaker 1: some energy and buckle up your brain because it's time
Speaker 1: to play whose Podcast, Because it's time to play books.
Speaker 1: Who live from Top of the Land or so called
Speaker 1: SoCal Los Angeles, Welcome to Who Was? The history quick
Speaker 1: show that gives contestants the chance to win mega prizes
Speaker 1: and podcast glory. I'm here, announcer be and I'm as
Speaker 1: busy as a meme. And here's your host. He's an animal,
Speaker 1: vegetable and a mineral. It's Ellie Kalin. Thank you be
Speaker 1: and welcome everyone who Was podcast. This show it's like Jeopardy,
Speaker 1: only with surprise guests, silly games, and the taste of
Speaker 1: rich creamery butter our. Contestants were sent who Was books
Speaker 1: about two great figures from history out. They're here to
Speaker 1: show off their knowledge and the hopes of winning fantastic prizes,
Speaker 1: prizes prizes. Today we're talking about crustading reporter I Had
Speaker 1: to Be Wells and teenage warrior jod of Art, two
Speaker 1: women who weren't afraid to fight for their beliefs or
Speaker 1: get controversial haircuts. That's right, Joan of Art's page boycut
Speaker 1: was a scandle in the fifteenth century, almost as divisive
Speaker 1: as when I got the word fresh shaved into my
Speaker 1: head last month. Yeah, that was a rocky time for us. All.
Speaker 1: I'm glad it's almost grown back at Yeah. Now it
Speaker 1: just says, Okay, let's meet our contestants. First up, we
Speaker 1: have Ava, Ava, Please introduce yourself. Hello, Mva. I've been
Speaker 1: playing a lot of soccer for the past five years,
Speaker 1: so I continue on doing that. What position do you play? Um? Right?
Speaker 1: Made her leftman? Oh my gosh. Midfield is so hard
Speaker 1: because you have to be good at being defense but
Speaker 1: also good at being offense. So amazing. It's also very
Speaker 1: hard because soccer is a hard game to play that
Speaker 1: I'm not good at. So any position is a difficult
Speaker 1: one for me. Yeah, but don't don't worry. We'll get
Speaker 1: to um the fact that Elliott is really great at
Speaker 1: cool later on. So that's that's really more of his scorn. Sure, sure,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, the billiard table. Yeah yeah, exactly. Yeah, alright,
Speaker 1: and next up we have Sophia. Sophia, please introduce yourself.
Speaker 1: I'm Sophia. I do a cheerleading and Janessa, Oh wow, okay,
Speaker 1: what is the most like impressive trick you can do? Nice?
Speaker 1: We have an extra fun fact about Sophia and Eva
Speaker 1: because they are actually sisters. Is that right? Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: It's a family grudge match today on the who Is
Speaker 1: podcast sister versus sister and I believe you're also twin sisters.
Speaker 1: Is that right? Yeah? Now I have a twin sister myself.
Speaker 1: I am a twin and I have a sister. What
Speaker 1: is something that I should know if I ever want
Speaker 1: to say, like Frank my twin sister, because I've never
Speaker 1: been successful at it before, do you have any tips,
Speaker 1: any hints, any tricks? And he cheats? It's really hard.
Speaker 1: How I would you say? Be sneaky? So I shouldn't
Speaker 1: walk out into the room and say I'm pranking you
Speaker 1: right now and then pull off the brank. Well, if
Speaker 1: you were to do a jump scare, to just be
Speaker 1: very quiet and try not to make things obviously possible
Speaker 1: because I've done has done that in the past. Has
Speaker 1: jump scared you? No, I've jumped scared her. But I'm
Speaker 1: a better at it. Wow. We just set the tone
Speaker 1: for the rest of the game. Alrighty, I think we
Speaker 1: might have to change round three, which is going to
Speaker 1: be a jump scare competition. We'll figure out all Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: We'll run back to the writer's room. Thank you both
Speaker 1: for joining us, and thank you to Eric, our musician,
Speaker 1: for providing that lovely live Meet the Contestants music and
Speaker 1: all the music from the show today. So that's who is.
Speaker 1: Now let's find out who was Ida b Wells with
Speaker 1: four fast facts. Ida b Wells lived from eighteen sixty
Speaker 1: two to nineteen thirty two. She wrote books and articles
Speaker 1: exposing the evils of lynching, attacks on black people by
Speaker 1: violent mobs. Ida was a founder of the National Association
Speaker 1: for the Advancement of Colored People, the first black woman
Speaker 1: ever to have a street named after her in Chicago. Now,
Speaker 1: are either of you crusading journalists or have you considered
Speaker 1: becoming crusading journalists? No? No, no. Do you have a
Speaker 1: school newspaper? Have you ever written for it? We do,
Speaker 1: but I've never written for it. Okay, Well, if you
Speaker 1: could write about anything you wanted to, what would you
Speaker 1: write about the disadvantages of being a twin system? The
Speaker 1: disadvantages of being a twin sister? That's the next bose? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: what would be like the first don't bury the lead
Speaker 1: on this. What were you the first thing that you
Speaker 1: that you tell us about the disadvantages of being a
Speaker 1: twin thing. Um, it can be fun, but it's not,
Speaker 1: especially if your identical. Thank goodness, I'm not. Yeah, do
Speaker 1: people ever ask you? People always used to ask me
Speaker 1: about my twin sister. For me, they would say, can
Speaker 1: you read each other's minds? Which is it? Which is
Speaker 1: a nonsense thing to ask somebody to people ask you that. No,
Speaker 1: I've never heard that. Oh really, I mean we can.
Speaker 1: That's the amazing thing is like, let me see what
Speaker 1: she's thinking right now. She's thinking she's hungry. Okay, well
Speaker 1: that that makes sense. All right. Wait a minute, Elliott,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm thinking. Oh no, I've been all this time.
Speaker 1: I've been reading these minds. Oh wait, are we actually twins?
Speaker 1: What a twist we didn't know this is going to
Speaker 1: happen on the Whos podcast today. What a very special episode. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you both. I think it's time to move on
Speaker 1: to our first game before we get to any other
Speaker 1: shocking revelations. This game is called Choose your Own who Venture.
Speaker 1: Permission to choose your Own who Venture granted, Thank you
Speaker 1: Eric for this game. You will be placed in the
Speaker 1: shoes of Ida B. Wells as she makes some of
Speaker 1: the major decisions in her life. Choose the answer which
Speaker 1: best describes what you would do if you're Ida b Wells,
Speaker 1: which you are for this game, not in real life,
Speaker 1: but just for this game, because this is our first game.
Speaker 1: Each right answer is worth one point Eva Europe. First,
Speaker 1: you are sixteen years old and your parents and youngest
Speaker 1: brother have died of yellow fever. Which who venture her
Speaker 1: do you choose? Do you a moving with your grandma,
Speaker 1: be support your remaining siblings by taking a job as
Speaker 1: a teacher in another town, or see runaway, change your
Speaker 1: name and hope the fever never finds you. You're a
Speaker 1: fever leaver. Which do you choose? I wish use the
Speaker 1: second one that's right. The answer is b Ida took
Speaker 1: a job as a teacher when she barely finished high school.
Speaker 1: She would ride a mule to the schoolhouse, stay there
Speaker 1: during the weekend, teach classes, then ride back every Friday
Speaker 1: nights that she could cook and clean for her younger
Speaker 1: siblings through the weekend. Then on Sunday afternoon, she'd ride
Speaker 1: her mule back to the schoolhouse again. She even kept
Speaker 1: her teaching job after becoming a reporter. No news on
Speaker 1: whether she kept the mule though after becoming a reporter.
Speaker 1: This next question is for Sophia. The year is eight nine.
Speaker 1: The owners of a newspaper called the Free Speech and
Speaker 1: Headlight ask you to come right for them. Do you,
Speaker 1: as I to be Wells choose A that you say yes,
Speaker 1: but only if they make you the editor in part
Speaker 1: owner of the paper. B say no, you don't have
Speaker 1: time to take on a new job. Or see say
Speaker 1: you're not sure and you need more time to think
Speaker 1: about it, and then take so much time thinking about
Speaker 1: it that they move on to their next candidate, Ida S. C. Wells,
Speaker 1: Which do you choose? A that's right? The answer is a.
Speaker 1: Ida was so confident that she demanded to be the
Speaker 1: editor and co owner of the paper, and they agreed.
Speaker 1: It was while writing for the Free Speech and Headlight
Speaker 1: that Ida was nicknamed the Princess of the Press. She
Speaker 1: actually lost her teaching job while there after writing about
Speaker 1: how inadequate the schools for black children were, and she
Speaker 1: turned to journalism full time. She was the first female
Speaker 1: co owner and editor of a black newspaper. The first Okay,
Speaker 1: the next question it's back to Eva. You are twenty
Speaker 1: one years old and by a first class ticket for
Speaker 1: the ladies car of a train in Memphis, Tennessee. But
Speaker 1: the conductor forces you off the train, saying only white
Speaker 1: women are allowed to sit there. Do you a swear
Speaker 1: off trains and go back to writing your trustee childhood
Speaker 1: mule b go to the conductor's house later and force
Speaker 1: him out of the bathtub. Or see suit the railroad
Speaker 1: and write a newspaper article about the case. Which do
Speaker 1: you choose? The third one that's right answer is see
Speaker 1: I Hada hired a lawyer, sued the railroad, and one
Speaker 1: the judge ordered the railroad to pay I had a
Speaker 1: five dollars, but the railroad appealed the decision and it
Speaker 1: was struck down under the racist Jim Crow laws in
Speaker 1: place at the time. Ida went on to write many
Speaker 1: articles exposing injustices and established herself as one of the
Speaker 1: most prominent and prolific journalists of her time. Okay, Sophia,
Speaker 1: the final question of the round is for you. The
Speaker 1: year is nine. The destruction of your newspaper office in
Speaker 1: Memphis over anti lynching articles made you decide to move
Speaker 1: to Chicago. The Chicago Tribune newspaper is running articles saying
Speaker 1: black students and white students shouldn't go to school together.
Speaker 1: You try to change the newspaper editor's mind, but he
Speaker 1: refuses to talk to you. Do you a give up
Speaker 1: and only read the Chicago Suntimes, be start a newspaper
Speaker 1: insult war until he backs down, or see get help
Speaker 1: from your friend Chicago activist Jane Adams. Which do you
Speaker 1: choose the second one? I'm sorry the answer was ce
Speaker 1: Ida Wells knew when she needed an ally, and she
Speaker 1: also knew Jane Adams with someone. Chicagoans listened to Ida head.
Speaker 1: Jane lead a group of activists to the papers editor,
Speaker 1: and he stopped publishing articles arguing for separate schools. Jane Adams,
Speaker 1: of course, would go on to be the first American
Speaker 1: woman to win a Nobel Peace Prize. The only prize
Speaker 1: is my friends ever win is the not helping Elliott
Speaker 1: move Prize. Wait till you grow up and gotta move kids,
Speaker 1: You'll find out her who your real friends are. And
Speaker 1: that's the end of the round your ventures. Elliot that
Speaker 1: reminds me, I can't help you move next week? Be Ada,
Speaker 1: so via, would you be able to help me move
Speaker 1: next week? No, let's turned to our own ally named
Speaker 1: Jane who everyone listens to. That's producer Jane, who has
Speaker 1: the scores. Well, Elia, first of all, I can help
Speaker 1: you move next week. Uh and Ava has two point
Speaker 1: and Sophia has one point. Thank you, Jane, You're my hero.
Speaker 1: I will repay you for helping me move with one
Speaker 1: slice of pizza. Those scores are close. It's still anyone's
Speaker 1: game and we'll get right back to the game after
Speaker 1: this short break. Eric, please play us some newspaper music
Speaker 1: if you could, black and white and red all over.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the WHOS podcast. Today we're learning all
Speaker 1: about who was I to be wells and who wants
Speaker 1: Joan of Arc. Our scores are Eva with two points
Speaker 1: and Sybia with one point. And now back to your host,
Speaker 1: Elliot Galen. Thank you be. Let's keep the game moving
Speaker 1: along and learn a little more about Joan of Arc
Speaker 1: with four fast facts, Fast Guys. Joan of Arc lived
Speaker 1: from fourteen twelve to fourteen thirty one. She led French
Speaker 1: soldiers during the Hundred Years War while she was still
Speaker 1: a teenager. Joan of Arc was inspired to fight after
Speaker 1: experiencing visions of angels, and in nineteen twenties she was
Speaker 1: named a Catholic saint and is now the patron Saint
Speaker 1: of Frances. It's amazing that Joan of Arc inspired so
Speaker 1: many people with nothing but the strong emotions of a teenager. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's kind of like Taylor Swift if instead of writing songs,
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift put on a suit of armor and renamed
Speaker 1: herself Taylor of Swift. Yeah, okay, so Ava, Sofia, has
Speaker 1: there ever been anything that has made you just want
Speaker 1: to get on a suit of armor and ride out
Speaker 1: and fight for it? Honestly, if it's like a resonally
Speaker 1: boying people like I don't really like that, that's not
Speaker 1: really good. Yeah, And I have to imagine that ava
Speaker 1: suit of armor could be helpful in soccer. What do
Speaker 1: you think? Yeah? Maybe I could? You know that I
Speaker 1: think of it, especially especially you might make it harder
Speaker 1: to run, Yeah, although it would, it would. It would
Speaker 1: probably intimidate the other side and then the light would
Speaker 1: shine off the armor and it would blind them and
Speaker 1: then you could just kick the ball right past them
Speaker 1: like the useful Yeah, and with cheerleading, Sofia, I think
Speaker 1: the armor and it would make a statement. Again, hard
Speaker 1: to jump and hard to to kick, probably and if
Speaker 1: you were on the top of the pyramid, it would
Speaker 1: be heavy but still yeah, but it would come also
Speaker 1: in handy if you know, like your school bascot was
Speaker 1: the Knights or something. Yeah. So let's move on to
Speaker 1: our next game. It's something we call true or false
Speaker 1: false false? Is it false? Or is a true? It
Speaker 1: is a true that it is false? It was true?
Speaker 1: Or true? True or fault. In this game, be will
Speaker 1: read a statement about Joan of arc and you will
Speaker 1: tell us if the statement is true or paul false.
Speaker 1: It's just in the name. It's in the name of game,
Speaker 1: and it's since it's our second game, each question is
Speaker 1: worth two points. Sofia Europe first, right, sofia true or fault.
Speaker 1: The word Joan fought in the hundred years for started
Speaker 1: because of a disagreement between a French prince and the
Speaker 1: King of England over who should become King of France.
Speaker 1: Is this true or false? True? That's right, it's true.
Speaker 1: King Edward the third of England was all, I'm the
Speaker 1: nephew of the old King of France, so i should
Speaker 1: be the king, and Prince Charles or France was like,
Speaker 1: I'm the cousin of the old King of France, so
Speaker 1: I should be king, and the two countries fought over
Speaker 1: it from thirteen thirty seven to fourteen fifty three. So really,
Speaker 1: even though it's called the hundred years work, it actually
Speaker 1: took a hundred and sixteen years. And the French word
Speaker 1: to the heir to the throne is bill fin, which
Speaker 1: means dolphin, even though the prince was totally a person
Speaker 1: and not a dolphin. You know, it makes me so
Speaker 1: mad when people pretend their dolphins. Okay, maybe we should
Speaker 1: move on to the next question. This one is for Ava,
Speaker 1: all right, Ava. True or false? Joan of Arc was
Speaker 1: the daughter of a wealthy nobleman who has promised a
Speaker 1: new castle if the French Prince Charles was crowned king.
Speaker 1: That's false, that's right, that's false. Joan was the daughter
Speaker 1: of a poor farmer in a small village. Until joining
Speaker 1: Prince Charles's army, she worked on the farm and never
Speaker 1: learned to read or write. But that's how it is
Speaker 1: in France. One day you're bringing water to the cows,
Speaker 1: the next you're defeating the English at the Battle of Orleans. Sophia,
Speaker 1: it's your turn, all right, Sophia. True or false? At
Speaker 1: the Battle of Saint Loud and arrow was shot through
Speaker 1: Joan's leg, wounding her so badly that her leg had
Speaker 1: to be cut off. False. That's false. Joan was wounded
Speaker 1: at the Battle of Saint Luke, but with an arrow
Speaker 1: to the shoulder, and she returned to the battle after
Speaker 1: her wound was treated with olive oil and bacon fat,
Speaker 1: because back then medicine was delicious. Ava. This last question
Speaker 1: is for you, true or false. Despite being in several
Speaker 1: battles during her two years of fighting, Joan never killed anyone. True.
Speaker 1: That's true. Joan inspired her fellow soldiers with her bravery
Speaker 1: and her impeccable banner waving, but as a devoutly religious woman,
Speaker 1: she never took another person's life. Imagine how much better
Speaker 1: things would be if wars weren't about killing but just
Speaker 1: about banner waving. Wait a minute, are you saying nations
Speaker 1: should settle their differences with cheerleading competitions? Yeah? I think
Speaker 1: they should. It's a great idea, Sophia. What do you
Speaker 1: think are you ready to settle the differences between nations? Okay,
Speaker 1: well maybe maybe maybe after some practice. I don't know.
Speaker 1: And on that note, I think it's a good idea
Speaker 1: to end this game, true true, trueful, And now let
Speaker 1: to receive our own divine vision producer Jane with the scores,
Speaker 1: O Elliott, this score is as close as twins with
Speaker 1: the Ava has six and Sophia has five. Thank you, Jane.
Speaker 1: Fraternal twins scores, I guess because they're not identical scores.
Speaker 1: They're not. And now for our next game, it's called
Speaker 1: Look who just rode into the studio on horseback. It's
Speaker 1: Joan of Arc and it's a deep I have journey
Speaker 1: to your time to a miracle bots abouts, but it's
Speaker 1: truly awe inspiring power. God, No who was at? Who
Speaker 1: was want? In the best right? I always forget. We
Speaker 1: have a time traveling app is an honor to have
Speaker 1: you here, Joan of Arc. What brings you to the studio?
Speaker 1: And would you mind climbing down off your horse? I
Speaker 1: stay on my horse. I am here for two reasons. First,
Speaker 1: to correct the way you have been saying my name.
Speaker 1: My name in French is Jeanne Dark some foolish English
Speaker 1: translator sort Darkment of Arc, and that is how I
Speaker 1: have been known ever since. Sacrebleu that's French for what
Speaker 1: a goof what's your other reason for coming here? Jane?
Speaker 1: As a teenager fighting for franstance a hundred years work,
Speaker 1: I know life can be held for teens. Just because
Speaker 1: in Angel gave me a divine mission, it doesn't mean
Speaker 1: I didn't still have to deal with crushes, pimples, and
Speaker 1: feeling uncool. So I started an advice column where I
Speaker 1: answered letters from young people. I call it, Dear Jienne,
Speaker 1: what a great idea. Well, I can't wait to read
Speaker 1: your column later after the show. No needs to wait,
Speaker 1: I'm going to do it right now. If you could
Speaker 1: read this letter, please that we kind of have a
Speaker 1: game to get to. No, we must answer the teen
Speaker 1: advice letters. Okay, okay, okay. Here's the first letter, says,
Speaker 1: Dear Jenny, the other kids at school make fun of
Speaker 1: me because I dressed differently than they do. Should I
Speaker 1: give in and start dressing like everyone else? Signed sartorial
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. Let me tell you this, Cincinnati. When I
Speaker 1: left my home to fight for France, I had to
Speaker 1: dress like a soldier. I cut my hair and wore
Speaker 1: a suit of armor. People got mad or looked at
Speaker 1: me strange, but I had to be myself, and now
Speaker 1: I'm a patron sent of the whole country to quote
Speaker 1: Taylor of swift hate us gonna hate hate hate hate
Speaker 1: You do you we were flies? Next question? Okay, next question,
Speaker 1: Hey be you took the letters right out of my uh.
Speaker 1: Dear Jenny, I wanted to get a gift from my coworker,
Speaker 1: but he's not touriously hard to shop for. He has
Speaker 1: been described as a turn signal in human form. Any
Speaker 1: thoughts on a gift signed searching in so called so
Speaker 1: cal Are you sure this is from a team, it's
Speaker 1: from an exciting person. Listen, give her a chance to answer. Okay, okay, searching.
Speaker 1: I know it is how you seeing basic, but I
Speaker 1: always just opt for a nice candle. That way, if
Speaker 1: they are not a candled person, they can just really
Speaker 1: gifted for the next person they are having trouble funding
Speaker 1: a gift for. In this way, it's the gift that
Speaker 1: keeps on giving. Oh wait, there's a ps here. Can
Speaker 1: you ask Elliott if he likes vanilla scented candles? No
Speaker 1: time to answer, I must go. Does France needs you? No?
Speaker 1: I'm off to look out some TikTok videos remember, and
Speaker 1: maybe a worry of since but I'm still a teen
Speaker 1: c t y L. Wow. She left us with some
Speaker 1: really good advice, and it looks like her horse left
Speaker 1: us with something not quite so good. Why don't we
Speaker 1: take a quick break to clean it up and when
Speaker 1: we return, we'll find out whether Eva or Sophia will
Speaker 1: when this hundred questions war, Eric, please play us some
Speaker 1: teenager music hurteen the first Sally? Who was Marie Curie?
Speaker 1: You may remember me from winning multiple Nobel Prizes, or
Speaker 1: perhaps from my episode of the Who Was Podcast where
Speaker 1: I played myself. I wanted to take a moment to
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Speaker 1: Last Day Abieno. We're back on the Vias podcast. When
Speaker 1: we last left off, Eva had six points and Sophia
Speaker 1: has five points. And now back to your host, Elliot Kaitlin.
Speaker 1: Thank you b It's a close game and the only
Speaker 1: way to figure out who's gonna win this twin versus twin,
Speaker 1: sister versus sister grudge matches with our last game, Converge
Speaker 1: of Greatness. I wonder if Joan heard that fund of
Speaker 1: music when she was having a divine visions. I have
Speaker 1: to do so so it's like a divine song. It's
Speaker 1: like a song straight from heaven. And yet I know
Speaker 1: it's actually just from Eric. Wait, is Eric from heaven? No?
Speaker 1: Eric's from Florida? Oh right, right, so very much not.
Speaker 1: In this multiple choice game will explore how the lives
Speaker 1: of Ida b Wells and Joan of Arc connect, overlap,
Speaker 1: or converge. And because we're in the third round, each
Speaker 1: question is worth three points. Ready, the first question goes
Speaker 1: to Ava be take it away. Joan of Arc was
Speaker 1: known as the Maid of Orleans, but that just meant
Speaker 1: she was a young lady. She never worked as an
Speaker 1: actual mate, i'd be Wells held lots of different jobs
Speaker 1: during her life. Was she the first Chicago woman ever
Speaker 1: to be an a ice cream truck vendor, B probation officer,
Speaker 1: or ce college president? That's right, it was b as
Speaker 1: a probation officer. I'da used the powers of her job
Speaker 1: to help former prisoners find jobs and homes. Ida also
Speaker 1: founded the Negro Fellowship Lead, an organization that helped black
Speaker 1: men in similar ways. Ida spent her life working both
Speaker 1: inside and outside official systems to help people. Okay, the
Speaker 1: next question is for Sophia. I'da be well. Spoke to
Speaker 1: two different presidents, McKenley and Wilson about the need for
Speaker 1: laws against lynching, but neither of them followed through, and
Speaker 1: it wasn't until earlier this year two that an anti
Speaker 1: lynching law was passed. Joan also had problems with King
Speaker 1: Charles the seventh follow through. What did he fail to do? A?
Speaker 1: He didn't help free Joan when she was captured by
Speaker 1: the English. B he didn't notice that the yogurt he
Speaker 1: took from the office fridge was clearly labeled Joan. Or
Speaker 1: see he didn't send troops to save her village from
Speaker 1: being invaded. Okay, that's right. The answer is A. In
Speaker 1: the year fourteen thirty, Joan was captured by soldiers of
Speaker 1: the Duke of Burgundy and the King of England offered
Speaker 1: him ten thousand francs that's the money in France for her.
Speaker 1: But King Charles the same king Joan had been fighting
Speaker 1: for since he was a prince didn't make an offer
Speaker 1: at all, and he didn't send soldiers to free her.
Speaker 1: That must have made Joanes so mad. Yeah, Joan of
Speaker 1: Arc more like Joan of Arc. Excellently done, excellently, dunebe.
Speaker 1: This next question is for Ava. Joan of Arc had
Speaker 1: to travel hundreds of miles from her home village of
Speaker 1: dom Remy, France in order to meet Prince Charles and
Speaker 1: join his army. Ida b Wells also traveled over hundreds
Speaker 1: of miles. Was it a to follow her favorite band
Speaker 1: on tour b to call attention to injustice by walking
Speaker 1: across America? Or see personally sell subscriptions for the Free
Speaker 1: Speech newspaper The second one, I'm sorry it wasn't the
Speaker 1: second one walking across country. It was ce selling subscriptions.
Speaker 1: Ida didn't just write for the newspaper. She didn't just
Speaker 1: edit the newspaper. When she found out the paper needed
Speaker 1: more customers, she personally went out and traveled the South
Speaker 1: selling the paper. For hard work paid off, and in
Speaker 1: less than a year, the paper went from having fifteen
Speaker 1: hundred subscribers to having four thousand. The Because it doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: what You're right if nobody gets to read it, and
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if you ask a final question if
Speaker 1: Sophia doesn't answer it. So, Sophia, this last question to
Speaker 1: the round is for you. Both of our historical figures
Speaker 1: bravely face violent opposition to their beliefs. Ida Wells's articles
Speaker 1: exposing the horrors of lynching led a white mob to
Speaker 1: attack her newspapers offices and destroy their printing press. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Joan of Arc was burned to death by her enemies.
Speaker 1: What crime did they say Joan was guilty of? Was
Speaker 1: it a witchcraft, the heresy against the church see dressing
Speaker 1: like a boy, or d all of the above. That's right,
Speaker 1: it was d Her refusal to compromise her religious beliefs
Speaker 1: anger her enemies almost as much as her refusal to
Speaker 1: wear a dress. Though there were many rumors about Joanes
Speaker 1: seeing the future and performing miracles, we now know she
Speaker 1: wasn't a witch or a heretic. She was just a
Speaker 1: brave teenager with mad style. And that heavenly song again
Speaker 1: means it's the end of the game, which means it's
Speaker 1: almost the end of the show. We'll wait for Jane
Speaker 1: to tell you the points I'd love to hear from
Speaker 1: our contestants. Uh sofia Ava. What's something that really stuck
Speaker 1: out to you about Joan of arc or I to
Speaker 1: be Wills. I was really surprised, Like when Jones said
Speaker 1: that the claim that she saw saints to the priests,
Speaker 1: they were like they didn't believe at all. Honestly they
Speaker 1: I would think they would have been like all over
Speaker 1: that because it's like the saint talking to people. They
Speaker 1: were so mad at the idea that the saints might
Speaker 1: talk to her instead of talking to them, because right,
Speaker 1: she's just this girl from some French village somewhere and
Speaker 1: they're these fancy bishops and whatnot. Okay, what surprised you
Speaker 1: about either Joan of arc or I to be wells?
Speaker 1: Surprise Joan of Arcs parents didn't think she was crazy.
Speaker 1: That is the other reaction you could have when someone
Speaker 1: comes to you and says, the saints are talking to you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a little it's a little surprising that her parents
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, we believe you, and a little surprising
Speaker 1: that the priests like, we don't believe you. You might
Speaker 1: have thought it was the other way around. Certainly, if
Speaker 1: my kids came to me and said that they were
Speaker 1: receiving visions of angels. I would say, we need to
Speaker 1: take you to the doctor, but I guess they didn't
Speaker 1: really have much doctoring back then. It was all just
Speaker 1: bacon and olive oil, which again sounds amazing. But thank
Speaker 1: you both for sharing those moments with us. I mean,
Speaker 1: those are those are great perspectives on Jones visitations. But
Speaker 1: now it's time once again for the big moment. Jane,
Speaker 1: please announced our winner. Well, it'd be aven led throughout
Speaker 1: most of the game, but at the last minute, Sophia
Speaker 1: pulled out the win with eleven points. Sophia is our winner.
Speaker 1: Congratulations Sophia. What a roller coaster of a game. I
Speaker 1: would watch out for some jump scares later, because uh,
Speaker 1: it's it's hard to be it's hard to be a
Speaker 1: winner and not get some retaliation from your sibling. But
Speaker 1: you have ten seconds for shoutouts. Who would you like
Speaker 1: to thank for your victory today? All right, there you go,
Speaker 1: shirt and sweet, that's that's really nice. That makes me
Speaker 1: want to thank my mom for something I'll do later.
Speaker 1: You can you can help, you can thinker when she
Speaker 1: helps you move? Oh she never does. Our winner and
Speaker 1: their Library of Choice were receiving a selection of Who
Speaker 1: Was books, and I'm going to give a shout out
Speaker 1: of my own to intern Zach, Jane, Eric Niminy Where
Speaker 1: for being our Joan of Arc and to be, and
Speaker 1: a big thank you to both of our contestants who
Speaker 1: played a fantastic game today. You should both be very
Speaker 1: proud and thanks, of course above all to you our listener,
Speaker 1: for enjoying the show. Next week join us again as
Speaker 1: we'll find out about two more amazing people from the past.
Speaker 1: Until then, this is Elliott, Princess of podcasts Calin saying
Speaker 1: we're history. Goodbye. Everybody got a question for any of
Speaker 1: our famous figures, send us a voice memo at the
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Speaker 1: end up on the show. Who Was Podcast is produced
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Speaker 1: published by Penguin. This show was hosted by Elliott Klin
Speaker 1: with co host Megan O'Neill as Be. It also starred
Speaker 1: Jane Baker as Ducer, Jane, Eric Shackney as Eric, and
Speaker 1: Niminy Ware as Joan of Arc. Our executive producers are
Speaker 1: Richard Corson, Alex Bach, Elliet Klin, Megan O'Neil, Daniel Powell,
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Speaker 1: Lindsay Hoffman. This episode was written by Elliot Klin, Megan
Speaker 1: O'Neill and Jane Baker, who was produced by Bernie Kaminsky
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