1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Hey, be excited about the show today. I sure am. Here, 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: hold the sword. Then when I tell you swing it 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: at me? Wait? What Why would I swing a sword 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: at you? Because I'm holding this pen. You know the 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 1: old saying the pen is mightier than the sword. Okay, 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: I see where this is going be This is a 7 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: bad idea. Well, I was inspired by our two historical 8 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: figures crusading American journalist I'd to be Wells and French 9 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: warrior teen Joan of Arc to see if the pen 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: really is mightier than the sword. So you're going to 11 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: swing that sword at me, and I'll see if I 12 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: can stop it with this pen. There's no way this 13 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: will end well. Hey, maybe we'll prove the old saying 14 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: or maybe I'll get my head chopped off. Either way, 15 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: that's good podcasting, good point. Okay, get ready, I'm swinging 16 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 1: the sword. It worked, the sword shattered. The pen really 17 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: was mightier. I knew it. Hey, before the show starts, 18 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: let's test another phrase. Here, hold this leopard. I'm going 19 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: to see if I can change its spots mpletely leaves 20 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: on he bo. Do you think you know about the 21 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: grates from this story? The game is on to get 22 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: some energy and buckle up your brain because it's time 23 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: to play whose Podcast, Because it's time to play books. 24 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: Who live from Top of the Land or so called 25 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: SoCal Los Angeles, Welcome to Who Was? The history quick 26 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: show that gives contestants the chance to win mega prizes 27 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: and podcast glory. I'm here, announcer be and I'm as 28 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: busy as a meme. And here's your host. He's an animal, 29 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: vegetable and a mineral. It's Ellie Kalin. Thank you be 30 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: and welcome everyone who Was podcast. This show it's like Jeopardy, 31 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: only with surprise guests, silly games, and the taste of 32 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: rich creamery butter our. Contestants were sent who Was books 33 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: about two great figures from history out. They're here to 34 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: show off their knowledge and the hopes of winning fantastic prizes, 35 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: prizes prizes. Today we're talking about crustading reporter I Had 36 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: to Be Wells and teenage warrior jod of Art, two 37 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: women who weren't afraid to fight for their beliefs or 38 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: get controversial haircuts. That's right, Joan of Art's page boycut 39 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: was a scandle in the fifteenth century, almost as divisive 40 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: as when I got the word fresh shaved into my 41 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: head last month. Yeah, that was a rocky time for us. All. 42 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: I'm glad it's almost grown back at Yeah. Now it 43 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: just says, Okay, let's meet our contestants. First up, we 44 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: have Ava, Ava, Please introduce yourself. Hello, Mva. I've been 45 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: playing a lot of soccer for the past five years, 46 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: so I continue on doing that. What position do you play? Um? Right? 47 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: Made her leftman? Oh my gosh. Midfield is so hard 48 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: because you have to be good at being defense but 49 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: also good at being offense. So amazing. It's also very 50 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: hard because soccer is a hard game to play that 51 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: I'm not good at. So any position is a difficult 52 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: one for me. Yeah, but don't don't worry. We'll get 53 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: to um the fact that Elliott is really great at 54 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: cool later on. So that's that's really more of his scorn. Sure, sure, 55 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, the billiard table. Yeah yeah, exactly. Yeah, alright, 56 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: and next up we have Sophia. Sophia, please introduce yourself. 57 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: I'm Sophia. I do a cheerleading and Janessa, Oh wow, okay, 58 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: what is the most like impressive trick you can do? Nice? 59 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: We have an extra fun fact about Sophia and Eva 60 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: because they are actually sisters. Is that right? Yeah, that's right. 61 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: It's a family grudge match today on the who Is 62 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: podcast sister versus sister and I believe you're also twin sisters. 63 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: Is that right? Yeah? Now I have a twin sister myself. 64 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: I am a twin and I have a sister. What 65 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: is something that I should know if I ever want 66 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: to say, like Frank my twin sister, because I've never 67 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: been successful at it before, do you have any tips, 68 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: any hints, any tricks? And he cheats? It's really hard. 69 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: How I would you say? Be sneaky? So I shouldn't 70 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: walk out into the room and say I'm pranking you 71 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: right now and then pull off the brank. Well, if 72 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: you were to do a jump scare, to just be 73 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: very quiet and try not to make things obviously possible 74 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: because I've done has done that in the past. Has 75 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: jump scared you? No, I've jumped scared her. But I'm 76 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: a better at it. Wow. We just set the tone 77 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: for the rest of the game. Alrighty, I think we 78 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: might have to change round three, which is going to 79 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 1: be a jump scare competition. We'll figure out all Yeah, exactly. 80 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: We'll run back to the writer's room. Thank you both 81 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: for joining us, and thank you to Eric, our musician, 82 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: for providing that lovely live Meet the Contestants music and 83 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: all the music from the show today. So that's who is. 84 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: Now let's find out who was Ida b Wells with 85 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: four fast facts. Ida b Wells lived from eighteen sixty 86 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: two to nineteen thirty two. She wrote books and articles 87 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: exposing the evils of lynching, attacks on black people by 88 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: violent mobs. Ida was a founder of the National Association 89 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: for the Advancement of Colored People, the first black woman 90 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: ever to have a street named after her in Chicago. Now, 91 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: are either of you crusading journalists or have you considered 92 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: becoming crusading journalists? No? No, no. Do you have a 93 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: school newspaper? Have you ever written for it? We do, 94 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: but I've never written for it. Okay, Well, if you 95 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: could write about anything you wanted to, what would you 96 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: write about the disadvantages of being a twin system? The 97 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: disadvantages of being a twin sister? That's the next bose? Yeah, yeah, 98 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: what would be like the first don't bury the lead 99 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: on this. What were you the first thing that you 100 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 1: that you tell us about the disadvantages of being a 101 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: twin thing. Um, it can be fun, but it's not, 102 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: especially if your identical. Thank goodness, I'm not. Yeah, do 103 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: people ever ask you? People always used to ask me 104 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: about my twin sister. For me, they would say, can 105 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: you read each other's minds? Which is it? Which is 106 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: a nonsense thing to ask somebody to people ask you that. No, 107 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: I've never heard that. Oh really, I mean we can. 108 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: That's the amazing thing is like, let me see what 109 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: she's thinking right now. She's thinking she's hungry. Okay, well 110 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: that that makes sense. All right. Wait a minute, Elliott, 111 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: that's what I'm thinking. Oh no, I've been all this time. 112 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: I've been reading these minds. Oh wait, are we actually twins? 113 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: What a twist we didn't know this is going to 114 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: happen on the Whos podcast today. What a very special episode. Well, 115 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: thank you both. I think it's time to move on 116 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: to our first game before we get to any other 117 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: shocking revelations. This game is called Choose your Own who Venture. 118 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: Permission to choose your Own who Venture granted, Thank you 119 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: Eric for this game. You will be placed in the 120 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: shoes of Ida B. Wells as she makes some of 121 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: the major decisions in her life. Choose the answer which 122 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: best describes what you would do if you're Ida b Wells, 123 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: which you are for this game, not in real life, 124 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: but just for this game, because this is our first game. 125 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: Each right answer is worth one point Eva Europe. First, 126 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: you are sixteen years old and your parents and youngest 127 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: brother have died of yellow fever. Which who venture her 128 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: do you choose? Do you a moving with your grandma, 129 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: be support your remaining siblings by taking a job as 130 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: a teacher in another town, or see runaway, change your 131 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: name and hope the fever never finds you. You're a 132 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: fever leaver. Which do you choose? I wish use the 133 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: second one that's right. The answer is b Ida took 134 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: a job as a teacher when she barely finished high school. 135 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: She would ride a mule to the schoolhouse, stay there 136 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: during the weekend, teach classes, then ride back every Friday 137 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: nights that she could cook and clean for her younger 138 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: siblings through the weekend. Then on Sunday afternoon, she'd ride 139 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: her mule back to the schoolhouse again. She even kept 140 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: her teaching job after becoming a reporter. No news on 141 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: whether she kept the mule though after becoming a reporter. 142 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: This next question is for Sophia. The year is eight nine. 143 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: The owners of a newspaper called the Free Speech and 144 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: Headlight ask you to come right for them. Do you, 145 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: as I to be Wells choose A that you say yes, 146 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: but only if they make you the editor in part 147 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: owner of the paper. B say no, you don't have 148 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: time to take on a new job. Or see say 149 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: you're not sure and you need more time to think 150 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: about it, and then take so much time thinking about 151 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: it that they move on to their next candidate, Ida S. C. Wells, 152 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: Which do you choose? A that's right? The answer is a. 153 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: Ida was so confident that she demanded to be the 154 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: editor and co owner of the paper, and they agreed. 155 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: It was while writing for the Free Speech and Headlight 156 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: that Ida was nicknamed the Princess of the Press. She 157 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: actually lost her teaching job while there after writing about 158 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: how inadequate the schools for black children were, and she 159 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: turned to journalism full time. She was the first female 160 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 1: co owner and editor of a black newspaper. The first Okay, 161 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: the next question it's back to Eva. You are twenty 162 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: one years old and by a first class ticket for 163 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: the ladies car of a train in Memphis, Tennessee. But 164 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: the conductor forces you off the train, saying only white 165 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: women are allowed to sit there. Do you a swear 166 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: off trains and go back to writing your trustee childhood 167 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: mule b go to the conductor's house later and force 168 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: him out of the bathtub. Or see suit the railroad 169 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: and write a newspaper article about the case. Which do 170 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: you choose? The third one that's right answer is see 171 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: I Hada hired a lawyer, sued the railroad, and one 172 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: the judge ordered the railroad to pay I had a 173 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: five dollars, but the railroad appealed the decision and it 174 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: was struck down under the racist Jim Crow laws in 175 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: place at the time. Ida went on to write many 176 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: articles exposing injustices and established herself as one of the 177 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: most prominent and prolific journalists of her time. Okay, Sophia, 178 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: the final question of the round is for you. The 179 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: year is nine. The destruction of your newspaper office in 180 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: Memphis over anti lynching articles made you decide to move 181 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: to Chicago. The Chicago Tribune newspaper is running articles saying 182 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: black students and white students shouldn't go to school together. 183 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: You try to change the newspaper editor's mind, but he 184 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: refuses to talk to you. Do you a give up 185 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: and only read the Chicago Suntimes, be start a newspaper 186 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: insult war until he backs down, or see get help 187 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: from your friend Chicago activist Jane Adams. Which do you 188 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: choose the second one? I'm sorry the answer was ce 189 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: Ida Wells knew when she needed an ally, and she 190 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: also knew Jane Adams with someone. Chicagoans listened to Ida head. 191 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: Jane lead a group of activists to the papers editor, 192 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: and he stopped publishing articles arguing for separate schools. Jane Adams, 193 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 1: of course, would go on to be the first American 194 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: woman to win a Nobel Peace Prize. The only prize 195 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: is my friends ever win is the not helping Elliott 196 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 1: move Prize. Wait till you grow up and gotta move kids, 197 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: You'll find out her who your real friends are. And 198 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 1: that's the end of the round your ventures. Elliot that 199 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: reminds me, I can't help you move next week? Be Ada, 200 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: so via, would you be able to help me move 201 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: next week? No, let's turned to our own ally named 202 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 1: Jane who everyone listens to. That's producer Jane, who has 203 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: the scores. Well, Elia, first of all, I can help 204 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: you move next week. Uh and Ava has two point 205 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 1: and Sophia has one point. Thank you, Jane, You're my hero. 206 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: I will repay you for helping me move with one 207 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: slice of pizza. Those scores are close. It's still anyone's 208 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: game and we'll get right back to the game after 209 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: this short break. Eric, please play us some newspaper music 210 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: if you could, black and white and red all over. 211 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the WHOS podcast. Today we're learning all 212 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: about who was I to be wells and who wants 213 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: Joan of Arc. Our scores are Eva with two points 214 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: and Sybia with one point. And now back to your host, 215 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: Elliot Galen. Thank you be. Let's keep the game moving 216 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: along and learn a little more about Joan of Arc 217 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: with four fast facts, Fast Guys. Joan of Arc lived 218 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: from fourteen twelve to fourteen thirty one. She led French 219 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: soldiers during the Hundred Years War while she was still 220 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: a teenager. Joan of Arc was inspired to fight after 221 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: experiencing visions of angels, and in nineteen twenties she was 222 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 1: named a Catholic saint and is now the patron Saint 223 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: of Frances. It's amazing that Joan of Arc inspired so 224 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: many people with nothing but the strong emotions of a teenager. Yeah, 225 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: she's kind of like Taylor Swift if instead of writing songs, 226 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift put on a suit of armor and renamed 227 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: herself Taylor of Swift. Yeah, okay, so Ava, Sofia, has 228 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: there ever been anything that has made you just want 229 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: to get on a suit of armor and ride out 230 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: and fight for it? Honestly, if it's like a resonally 231 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: boying people like I don't really like that, that's not 232 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: really good. Yeah, And I have to imagine that ava 233 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: suit of armor could be helpful in soccer. What do 234 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: you think? Yeah? Maybe I could? You know that I 235 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: think of it, especially especially you might make it harder 236 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: to run, Yeah, although it would, it would. It would 237 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: probably intimidate the other side and then the light would 238 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: shine off the armor and it would blind them and 239 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 1: then you could just kick the ball right past them 240 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: like the useful Yeah, and with cheerleading, Sofia, I think 241 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: the armor and it would make a statement. Again, hard 242 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 1: to jump and hard to to kick, probably and if 243 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: you were on the top of the pyramid, it would 244 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: be heavy but still yeah, but it would come also 245 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: in handy if you know, like your school bascot was 246 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: the Knights or something. Yeah. So let's move on to 247 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: our next game. It's something we call true or false 248 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: false false? Is it false? Or is a true? It 249 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: is a true that it is false? It was true? 250 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: Or true? True or fault. In this game, be will 251 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: read a statement about Joan of arc and you will 252 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: tell us if the statement is true or paul false. 253 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: It's just in the name. It's in the name of game, 254 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: and it's since it's our second game, each question is 255 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: worth two points. Sofia Europe first, right, sofia true or fault. 256 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: The word Joan fought in the hundred years for started 257 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: because of a disagreement between a French prince and the 258 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: King of England over who should become King of France. 259 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: Is this true or false? True? That's right, it's true. 260 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: King Edward the third of England was all, I'm the 261 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: nephew of the old King of France, so i should 262 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: be the king, and Prince Charles or France was like, 263 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: I'm the cousin of the old King of France, so 264 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: I should be king, and the two countries fought over 265 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 1: it from thirteen thirty seven to fourteen fifty three. So really, 266 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: even though it's called the hundred years work, it actually 267 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: took a hundred and sixteen years. And the French word 268 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: to the heir to the throne is bill fin, which 269 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: means dolphin, even though the prince was totally a person 270 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: and not a dolphin. You know, it makes me so 271 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: mad when people pretend their dolphins. Okay, maybe we should 272 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: move on to the next question. This one is for Ava, 273 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: all right, Ava. True or false? Joan of Arc was 274 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: the daughter of a wealthy nobleman who has promised a 275 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: new castle if the French Prince Charles was crowned king. 276 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: That's false, that's right, that's false. Joan was the daughter 277 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: of a poor farmer in a small village. Until joining 278 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: Prince Charles's army, she worked on the farm and never 279 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: learned to read or write. But that's how it is 280 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: in France. One day you're bringing water to the cows, 281 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: the next you're defeating the English at the Battle of Orleans. Sophia, 282 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: it's your turn, all right, Sophia. True or false? At 283 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: the Battle of Saint Loud and arrow was shot through 284 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: Joan's leg, wounding her so badly that her leg had 285 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: to be cut off. False. That's false. Joan was wounded 286 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: at the Battle of Saint Luke, but with an arrow 287 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: to the shoulder, and she returned to the battle after 288 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: her wound was treated with olive oil and bacon fat, 289 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: because back then medicine was delicious. Ava. This last question 290 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: is for you, true or false. Despite being in several 291 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: battles during her two years of fighting, Joan never killed anyone. True. 292 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: That's true. Joan inspired her fellow soldiers with her bravery 293 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: and her impeccable banner waving, but as a devoutly religious woman, 294 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: she never took another person's life. Imagine how much better 295 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: things would be if wars weren't about killing but just 296 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: about banner waving. Wait a minute, are you saying nations 297 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: should settle their differences with cheerleading competitions? Yeah? I think 298 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: they should. It's a great idea, Sophia. What do you 299 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: think are you ready to settle the differences between nations? Okay, 300 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: well maybe maybe maybe after some practice. I don't know. 301 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: And on that note, I think it's a good idea 302 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: to end this game, true true, trueful, And now let 303 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: to receive our own divine vision producer Jane with the scores, 304 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: O Elliott, this score is as close as twins with 305 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: the Ava has six and Sophia has five. Thank you, Jane. 306 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: Fraternal twins scores, I guess because they're not identical scores. 307 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: They're not. And now for our next game, it's called 308 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: Look who just rode into the studio on horseback. It's 309 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: Joan of Arc and it's a deep I have journey 310 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: to your time to a miracle bots abouts, but it's 311 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: truly awe inspiring power. God, No who was at? Who 312 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: was want? In the best right? I always forget. We 313 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: have a time traveling app is an honor to have 314 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: you here, Joan of Arc. What brings you to the studio? 315 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: And would you mind climbing down off your horse? I 316 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: stay on my horse. I am here for two reasons. First, 317 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: to correct the way you have been saying my name. 318 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: My name in French is Jeanne Dark some foolish English 319 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: translator sort Darkment of Arc, and that is how I 320 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: have been known ever since. Sacrebleu that's French for what 321 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: a goof what's your other reason for coming here? Jane? 322 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: As a teenager fighting for franstance a hundred years work, 323 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: I know life can be held for teens. Just because 324 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: in Angel gave me a divine mission, it doesn't mean 325 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: I didn't still have to deal with crushes, pimples, and 326 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: feeling uncool. So I started an advice column where I 327 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: answered letters from young people. I call it, Dear Jienne, 328 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: what a great idea. Well, I can't wait to read 329 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: your column later after the show. No needs to wait, 330 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to do it right now. If you could 331 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: read this letter, please that we kind of have a 332 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 1: game to get to. No, we must answer the teen 333 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: advice letters. Okay, okay, okay. Here's the first letter, says, 334 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: Dear Jenny, the other kids at school make fun of 335 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 1: me because I dressed differently than they do. Should I 336 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: give in and start dressing like everyone else? Signed sartorial 337 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. Let me tell you this, Cincinnati. When I 338 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: left my home to fight for France, I had to 339 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: dress like a soldier. I cut my hair and wore 340 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 1: a suit of armor. People got mad or looked at 341 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: me strange, but I had to be myself, and now 342 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: I'm a patron sent of the whole country to quote 343 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: Taylor of swift hate us gonna hate hate hate hate 344 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: You do you we were flies? Next question? Okay, next question, 345 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: Hey be you took the letters right out of my uh. 346 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: Dear Jenny, I wanted to get a gift from my coworker, 347 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 1: but he's not touriously hard to shop for. He has 348 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: been described as a turn signal in human form. Any 349 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: thoughts on a gift signed searching in so called so 350 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: cal Are you sure this is from a team, it's 351 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: from an exciting person. Listen, give her a chance to answer. Okay, okay, searching. 352 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: I know it is how you seeing basic, but I 353 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: always just opt for a nice candle. That way, if 354 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: they are not a candled person, they can just really 355 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: gifted for the next person they are having trouble funding 356 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: a gift for. In this way, it's the gift that 357 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: keeps on giving. Oh wait, there's a ps here. Can 358 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 1: you ask Elliott if he likes vanilla scented candles? No 359 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: time to answer, I must go. Does France needs you? No? 360 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: I'm off to look out some TikTok videos remember, and 361 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: maybe a worry of since but I'm still a teen 362 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: c t y L. Wow. She left us with some 363 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: really good advice, and it looks like her horse left 364 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: us with something not quite so good. Why don't we 365 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: take a quick break to clean it up and when 366 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: we return, we'll find out whether Eva or Sophia will 367 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: when this hundred questions war, Eric, please play us some 368 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: teenager music hurteen the first Sally? Who was Marie Curie? 369 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: You may remember me from winning multiple Nobel Prizes, or 370 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: perhaps from my episode of the Who Was Podcast where 371 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: I played myself. I wanted to take a moment to 372 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: read one of my favorite reviews about the Who Was Podcast. 373 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: This is from Shaken Bay and it reads loved the 374 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: Me and my sister love this show more. Please Our 375 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: faith is Arietman. If you want to hear your review 376 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: read on the app, make sure to subscribe, like and 377 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: reviewed to the US podcast in the I Heart Radio 378 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: up or wherever you get your podcasts Revoir or should 379 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: Last Day Abieno. We're back on the Vias podcast. When 380 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: we last left off, Eva had six points and Sophia 381 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: has five points. And now back to your host, Elliot Kaitlin. 382 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: Thank you b It's a close game and the only 383 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: way to figure out who's gonna win this twin versus twin, 384 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: sister versus sister grudge matches with our last game, Converge 385 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 1: of Greatness. I wonder if Joan heard that fund of 386 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: music when she was having a divine visions. I have 387 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: to do so so it's like a divine song. It's 388 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: like a song straight from heaven. And yet I know 389 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: it's actually just from Eric. Wait, is Eric from heaven? No? 390 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: Eric's from Florida? Oh right, right, so very much not. 391 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: In this multiple choice game will explore how the lives 392 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: of Ida b Wells and Joan of Arc connect, overlap, 393 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: or converge. And because we're in the third round, each 394 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: question is worth three points. Ready, the first question goes 395 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 1: to Ava be take it away. Joan of Arc was 396 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 1: known as the Maid of Orleans, but that just meant 397 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 1: she was a young lady. She never worked as an 398 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: actual mate, i'd be Wells held lots of different jobs 399 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: during her life. Was she the first Chicago woman ever 400 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: to be an a ice cream truck vendor, B probation officer, 401 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: or ce college president? That's right, it was b as 402 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: a probation officer. I'da used the powers of her job 403 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 1: to help former prisoners find jobs and homes. Ida also 404 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: founded the Negro Fellowship Lead, an organization that helped black 405 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: men in similar ways. Ida spent her life working both 406 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: inside and outside official systems to help people. Okay, the 407 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: next question is for Sophia. I'da be well. Spoke to 408 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: two different presidents, McKenley and Wilson about the need for 409 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: laws against lynching, but neither of them followed through, and 410 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: it wasn't until earlier this year two that an anti 411 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: lynching law was passed. Joan also had problems with King 412 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: Charles the seventh follow through. What did he fail to do? A? 413 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: He didn't help free Joan when she was captured by 414 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: the English. B he didn't notice that the yogurt he 415 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 1: took from the office fridge was clearly labeled Joan. Or 416 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 1: see he didn't send troops to save her village from 417 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: being invaded. Okay, that's right. The answer is A. In 418 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: the year fourteen thirty, Joan was captured by soldiers of 419 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: the Duke of Burgundy and the King of England offered 420 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: him ten thousand francs that's the money in France for her. 421 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: But King Charles the same king Joan had been fighting 422 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 1: for since he was a prince didn't make an offer 423 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,479 Speaker 1: at all, and he didn't send soldiers to free her. 424 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: That must have made Joanes so mad. Yeah, Joan of 425 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: Arc more like Joan of Arc. Excellently done, excellently, dunebe. 426 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: This next question is for Ava. Joan of Arc had 427 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: to travel hundreds of miles from her home village of 428 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: dom Remy, France in order to meet Prince Charles and 429 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: join his army. Ida b Wells also traveled over hundreds 430 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: of miles. Was it a to follow her favorite band 431 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: on tour b to call attention to injustice by walking 432 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: across America? Or see personally sell subscriptions for the Free 433 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: Speech newspaper The second one, I'm sorry it wasn't the 434 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: second one walking across country. It was ce selling subscriptions. 435 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: Ida didn't just write for the newspaper. She didn't just 436 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: edit the newspaper. When she found out the paper needed 437 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: more customers, she personally went out and traveled the South 438 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: selling the paper. For hard work paid off, and in 439 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: less than a year, the paper went from having fifteen 440 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: hundred subscribers to having four thousand. The Because it doesn't matter, 441 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: what You're right if nobody gets to read it, and 442 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if you ask a final question if 443 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: Sophia doesn't answer it. So, Sophia, this last question to 444 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: the round is for you. Both of our historical figures 445 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: bravely face violent opposition to their beliefs. Ida Wells's articles 446 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: exposing the horrors of lynching led a white mob to 447 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: attack her newspapers offices and destroy their printing press. Meanwhile, 448 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 1: Joan of Arc was burned to death by her enemies. 449 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 1: What crime did they say Joan was guilty of? Was 450 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: it a witchcraft, the heresy against the church see dressing 451 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: like a boy, or d all of the above. That's right, 452 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: it was d Her refusal to compromise her religious beliefs 453 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: anger her enemies almost as much as her refusal to 454 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 1: wear a dress. Though there were many rumors about Joanes 455 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: seeing the future and performing miracles, we now know she 456 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 1: wasn't a witch or a heretic. She was just a 457 00:25:53,440 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 1: brave teenager with mad style. And that heavenly song again 458 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 1: means it's the end of the game, which means it's 459 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: almost the end of the show. We'll wait for Jane 460 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: to tell you the points I'd love to hear from 461 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: our contestants. Uh sofia Ava. What's something that really stuck 462 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: out to you about Joan of arc or I to 463 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: be Wills. I was really surprised, Like when Jones said 464 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 1: that the claim that she saw saints to the priests, 465 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 1: they were like they didn't believe at all. Honestly they 466 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: I would think they would have been like all over 467 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 1: that because it's like the saint talking to people. They 468 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: were so mad at the idea that the saints might 469 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: talk to her instead of talking to them, because right, 470 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: she's just this girl from some French village somewhere and 471 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: they're these fancy bishops and whatnot. Okay, what surprised you 472 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: about either Joan of arc or I to be wells? 473 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: Surprise Joan of Arcs parents didn't think she was crazy. 474 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: That is the other reaction you could have when someone 475 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 1: comes to you and says, the saints are talking to you. Yeah, 476 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: it's a little it's a little surprising that her parents 477 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: were like, yeah, we believe you, and a little surprising 478 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 1: that the priests like, we don't believe you. You might 479 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 1: have thought it was the other way around. Certainly, if 480 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: my kids came to me and said that they were 481 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 1: receiving visions of angels. I would say, we need to 482 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: take you to the doctor, but I guess they didn't 483 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 1: really have much doctoring back then. It was all just 484 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: bacon and olive oil, which again sounds amazing. But thank 485 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: you both for sharing those moments with us. I mean, 486 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 1: those are those are great perspectives on Jones visitations. But 487 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: now it's time once again for the big moment. Jane, 488 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: please announced our winner. Well, it'd be aven led throughout 489 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: most of the game, but at the last minute, Sophia 490 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: pulled out the win with eleven points. Sophia is our winner. 491 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 1: Congratulations Sophia. What a roller coaster of a game. I 492 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: would watch out for some jump scares later, because uh, 493 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: it's it's hard to be it's hard to be a 494 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 1: winner and not get some retaliation from your sibling. But 495 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: you have ten seconds for shoutouts. Who would you like 496 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,959 Speaker 1: to thank for your victory today? All right, there you go, 497 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: shirt and sweet, that's that's really nice. That makes me 498 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: want to thank my mom for something I'll do later. 499 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: You can you can help, you can thinker when she 500 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: helps you move? Oh she never does. Our winner and 501 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: their Library of Choice were receiving a selection of Who 502 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: Was books, and I'm going to give a shout out 503 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: of my own to intern Zach, Jane, Eric Niminy Where 504 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: for being our Joan of Arc and to be, and 505 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: a big thank you to both of our contestants who 506 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: played a fantastic game today. You should both be very 507 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: proud and thanks, of course above all to you our listener, 508 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: for enjoying the show. Next week join us again as 509 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: we'll find out about two more amazing people from the past. 510 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: Until then, this is Elliott, Princess of podcasts Calin saying 511 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: we're history. Goodbye. Everybody got a question for any of 512 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: our famous figures, send us a voice memo at the 513 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: Who Was Podcast at gmail dot com. It might just 514 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: end up on the show. Who Was Podcast is produced 515 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: by Radio Point, I Heeart Media and Penguin Workshop and 516 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: is based on the best selling Who Each two series 517 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: published by Penguin. This show was hosted by Elliott Klin 518 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: with co host Megan O'Neill as Be. It also starred 519 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: Jane Baker as Ducer, Jane, Eric Shackney as Eric, and 520 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: Niminy Ware as Joan of Arc. Our executive producers are 521 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: Richard Corson, Alex Bach, Elliet Klin, Megan O'Neil, Daniel Powell, 522 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: and Houston Snyder. The executive producer from Enguin Workshop is 523 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: Francesco Sedita, and the executive producer fry Hart Media is 524 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: Lindsay Hoffman. This episode was written by Elliot Klin, Megan 525 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: O'Neill and Jane Baker, who was produced by Bernie Kaminsky 526 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: and Taylor Kawalski. Our talent producer is Jane Baker. 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