WEBVTT - Why is Venice so wet?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from house Stuff Works

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark,

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<v Speaker 1>There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant. NOAs with us again and

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<v Speaker 1>it's another morning edition. Yeah, we got an email. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we had our last morning thing that session not

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<v Speaker 1>to want ago, and someone wrote down said, please don't

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<v Speaker 1>do that again. I didn't think it was that bad.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys are clearly like really tired and not the same.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I say is, if you have a choice,

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<v Speaker 1>is saved this one for the morning and just pretend

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<v Speaker 1>like where your local NPR station or a cup of

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<v Speaker 1>Joe like Josh is drinking. Yea, and yeah, it's all

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<v Speaker 1>so good and let's let's do this morning style. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>do it man, um, let's do this morning style in Italian. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is gonna be a fan favorite, I predict because

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<v Speaker 1>there's some Italian pronunciations that I'm sure you will do

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<v Speaker 1>for every buddy. Right, I'm gonna do it. My best

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<v Speaker 1>was good, good little taste of it. Yes, that's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the accidents you can have a great time with

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<v Speaker 1>without people saying that you're offensive. That's a T shirt. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so Chuck you heard about them sea levels yeah and fallen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>due to climate change. I'm saying, well, it's climate change.

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<v Speaker 1>To the big bone of contention is whether it's human

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<v Speaker 1>cause or anthropogenic. Uh. The thing is there are there,

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<v Speaker 1>It is undeniable. The sea levels are rising at a

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<v Speaker 1>rate of about three millimeters a year, which doesn't sound

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<v Speaker 1>like much, But buddy, if you live for a thousand years,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd see the sea levels rise by three meters, which

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<v Speaker 1>is almost ten ft in America. Yeah, not the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>deal in some parts of the world. Big deal in Venice. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, if you're waiting a thousand years to

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<v Speaker 1>watch it rise three meters, that's the current rate of

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<v Speaker 1>sea level rise, it could speed up tremendously. And while

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<v Speaker 1>three millimeters might not sound that much to you out

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<v Speaker 1>in the Rockies, yeah, because it's nice and dry there

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the mountain. They're all stoned, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's legal there. Who cares. If you're in a

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<v Speaker 1>place like um, the Maldives, you're saying, wow, my country

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<v Speaker 1>is probably not going to exist in the next like

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years. That's scary. If you're in New Orleans worried

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<v Speaker 1>about the same thing, and a little town known as Venice,

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<v Speaker 1>Italy is facing the same problem. It has been for

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<v Speaker 1>a very long time. And you say little town, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it is getting smaller, not only physically, but the population

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<v Speaker 1>because Venice is such a mess, has declined down to

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<v Speaker 1>about sixty people now over the years from like a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and eighty. Yes, because people are tired of everything wet.

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<v Speaker 1>They are they used to get wet um back in

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<v Speaker 1>they would get wet about ten times a year due

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<v Speaker 1>to flooding. They could expect ten noteworthy floods a year.

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<v Speaker 1>And when we say noteworthy floods, we mean like the

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<v Speaker 1>squares in the throughout the city or flooded up to

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<v Speaker 1>maybe your knees, kind of like the whole ground floor

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<v Speaker 1>of Venice. Yeah, it gets flooded like you're slogging around,

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<v Speaker 1>which I mean sounds kind of fun when you're a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not that fun, especially when you're an adult

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<v Speaker 1>who maybe a germophobe. Because Venice has an antiquated sewer

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<v Speaker 1>system that's antiquated is the perfect word. Yeah, by antiquated,

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<v Speaker 1>we mean all of the um sewer pipes go right

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<v Speaker 1>out into the canals and they have along the um

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<v Speaker 1>along the years added like septic tanks to treat the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff first, but not everybody has those um and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>they get backed up too. But the raw sewage or

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<v Speaker 1>septically treated sewage in Venice goes into those canals that

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<v Speaker 1>you float around in um boats. And when you're around

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<v Speaker 1>in the flood, like a tourist, you're swimming around in

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<v Speaker 1>fequal material. The tourist get in that water. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>picture of it um on a oh Man, I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 1>I think like a Bloomberg article about Venice or maybe wired.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like, if you know about Venice, you'll think

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<v Speaker 1>these people are crazy for swimming in this flood water.

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<v Speaker 1>And it shows a couple of tourists like swimming in

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<v Speaker 1>a flood in the middle of the square, um the

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<v Speaker 1>San Marco, the San Marco Square. Yeah. Yeah, And now

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<v Speaker 1>that you know it's it's gross to see, they're like

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<v Speaker 1>it tastes briny and sort of ou mommy, right, why

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<v Speaker 1>are my lips swollen? Yeah, it's uh, it's That's one

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<v Speaker 1>of many many problems facing Venice right now. An antiquated

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<v Speaker 1>sewer system, and a lot of the problems are unique

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<v Speaker 1>just because of the city and how it's created. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about this, because Venice is not something I

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<v Speaker 1>knew a ton about. I knew it was on the water.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew it was sinking. Shout out by the way

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<v Speaker 1>to Venice is sinking Athens band and stuff. You should

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<v Speaker 1>know fans. Um, well, then I like them already, Yes, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you know those guys he does. In fact, no old

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<v Speaker 1>talks Jerry doesn't like. Oh yeah, yeah, they're great. He

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<v Speaker 1>launches into like a five minute discourse. Uh So I

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<v Speaker 1>knew a little bit about Venice, very little though I've

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<v Speaker 1>never been there. But when I watched this awesome video

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<v Speaker 1>that Josh found, Um, we should go ahead and plug

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<v Speaker 1>it because it's just super cool. Yeah. It's called um

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<v Speaker 1>Venice Backstage Period, how does Venice work? And it was

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<v Speaker 1>created by the Insula SPA, which is I guess the

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<v Speaker 1>production arm of the city of Venice. Yeah, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a locally produced video about Venice. But it's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most fascinating, like eighteen minute videos I've ever seen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they pack a lot of learning into that

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen minutes. Um. So if you don't know much about Venice,

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<v Speaker 1>imagine if you do know something about New York City.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine like the Greenwich Village. Uh. And I use Greenwich

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<v Speaker 1>Village because it's not on like the direct like north

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<v Speaker 1>southeast West Grida. They got all those crazy diagonal streets.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine if it's so hot right now. Yeah, um, imagine

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<v Speaker 1>Greenwage Village if every block was an island. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>essentially what Venice is. It is a hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four tiny little islands all packed together, and instead of streets,

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<v Speaker 1>you have water, a hudred and eighty three canals and

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<v Speaker 1>it's all connected by little foot bridges and real bridges.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh and yes, canals by boat. Yeah. I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>crazy when you've never even seen like the big zoom

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<v Speaker 1>in from above bird's eye view of what Venice looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, that's what's going on. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>crazy because I mean when, especially when you're in the city,

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<v Speaker 1>like you're walking over canals, but you don't give too

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<v Speaker 1>much thought to him. You're just like, oh, that's so quaint. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're almost thinking like they dug that out on purpose

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<v Speaker 1>or something to get tourists. Now, those are necessity. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's odd. It was an odd and different way for

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<v Speaker 1>a city. To form. They didn't start from a city

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<v Speaker 1>center and grow out. Each little block in section was

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<v Speaker 1>its own little thing. Yeah, it was kind of its

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<v Speaker 1>own little municipality. Um. And the reason that these people

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<v Speaker 1>set up shop hundreds and hundreds of years ago on

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<v Speaker 1>these islands was for for protection. Venice was a very

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<v Speaker 1>well protected municipality or cluster of municipalities. Right. Yeah. It

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<v Speaker 1>sits in a lagoon and there are three waterways that

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<v Speaker 1>flow water in and out every day, twice a day

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<v Speaker 1>with the tides. Yeah, the Adriatic flows in um to

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<v Speaker 1>the lagoon and uh brings it out, brings the water

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<v Speaker 1>back out at low tide, right yeah, yeah, high tide,

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<v Speaker 1>it brings water in low tide, it takes the water out,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why they're not that worried about their sewage

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<v Speaker 1>going into the canals because because the the water comes

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<v Speaker 1>in and kind of brings all the trash out to

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<v Speaker 1>the sea and then no one sees it. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>self a flushing system. Yeah, well, I mean it pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much is. So that's how they've been able to put

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<v Speaker 1>up with that for so long because twice a day, um,

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<v Speaker 1>the waters exchange, there's there is a big exchange to it.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is when that water comes in, especially when

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<v Speaker 1>you include sea level rises and now up to six

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<v Speaker 1>times more flooding per year. Remember it was like ten

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<v Speaker 1>times a year and now that's up to about sixty floods. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you have kind of a problem. Now you've got the

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<v Speaker 1>You have a sinking city essentially, is what it's what

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<v Speaker 1>it amounts to. Yeah, I mean it's it's two things.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the water rises in Venice itself. The buildings are sinking.

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<v Speaker 1>So those are two bad things that go, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that don't taste great together. The reason that sinking is

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<v Speaker 1>because they extract freshwater from beneath the city, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's less of a solid foundation now and um

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<v Speaker 1>there's also drilling nearby, like for natural gas or um

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<v Speaker 1>fossil fuels, and uh, it's also just a roading well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they've done a lot of things over the year. When

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<v Speaker 1>you've got seawater lapping up against well, let's step back,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just dirt and stuff. They realized pretty early

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<v Speaker 1>on we're not gonna be around unless we in case,

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<v Speaker 1>the entire city basically in brick below the waterline, and

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<v Speaker 1>they came up with some really ingenious construction methods that

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<v Speaker 1>you can super ingenious in that Venusbeck stage video on Vimeo. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but even though they have been ensconce to the whole

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<v Speaker 1>city and brick as a foundation, that's was laughing salt

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<v Speaker 1>water and it's you know, these canals are busy. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not just the gondolier singing the song like there. If

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<v Speaker 1>you see real footage and that movie footage, they're packed

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<v Speaker 1>with boats, motor boats, cruise ships, all sorts of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And that action creates a lot of movement in the

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<v Speaker 1>water and it just whittles away at those bricks little

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<v Speaker 1>by little over the years, over hundreds and hundreds of years,

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<v Speaker 1>and then that's why Venice is sinking. Um. Part of

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<v Speaker 1>the other problem too, is a sediment builds up in

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<v Speaker 1>the canals. They're supposed to close them down on a

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<v Speaker 1>fairly regular basis, basically damn them up, drain them and

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<v Speaker 1>then remove the sediment, and basically, um, they stopped doing

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<v Speaker 1>that as frequently as before, and there there's been a

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<v Speaker 1>problem as a result. Plus saltwater uh permeates bricks. Bricks

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<v Speaker 1>are um semipermeable and they have capillary action, so it

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<v Speaker 1>draws saltwater up into the bricks, which I mean, as

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<v Speaker 1>long as bricks are connected by mortar, that water, that

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<v Speaker 1>saltwater will rise all the way to the top of

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<v Speaker 1>a building. And when the water evaporates, the water is gone,

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<v Speaker 1>but the salt stays, and it apparently increases in volume

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<v Speaker 1>tremendously and basically crushes the bricks from the inside out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and they've they've been taken steps and measures a little

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<v Speaker 1>by little in different ways over the years to help.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're they're kind of fighting a losing battle though,

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<v Speaker 1>like inject resin into the between the bricks and into

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<v Speaker 1>the bricks with hydraulics a barrier. But you know, they're fighting,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, they're fighting mother nature here, right. So

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<v Speaker 1>finally they've said, let's turn our attention from these um

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<v Speaker 1>these piecemeal measures of you know, kind of of treating

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<v Speaker 1>bricks and go to where the problem is. Let's go

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<v Speaker 1>to the doorstep of the problem, which is the Adriatic

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<v Speaker 1>and the three inlets into the lagoon. And they turn

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<v Speaker 1>their attention to that. And now they've come up with

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty great plan for dealing with rising tides and floodwaters.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think we will get to that plan right

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<v Speaker 1>after this break I knew you're gonna say, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's a plan. You know one thing on that

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<v Speaker 1>video too quickly that amazed me. You're talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>building construction. Um, the walls in Venice. The exterior walls

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<v Speaker 1>have a tendency to bow out at the top, and

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<v Speaker 1>uh so they have these these basically hooks that pull

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<v Speaker 1>from the inside the walls in and then those long

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<v Speaker 1>metal hooks travel into the floor where they're spiked into

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<v Speaker 1>the floor. So they're trying to pull it in there.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the roofs of the buildings in Venice aren't

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<v Speaker 1>just like hey, let's keep the water out there, literally

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<v Speaker 1>like caps that locked the walls in at the top.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's, uh, it's not just like a weather protector roof.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's actually like if the roof wasn't there, the

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<v Speaker 1>walls would bow out. And then the interior walls don't

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<v Speaker 1>even connect rigidly to the exterior walls. Yeah, it allows

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<v Speaker 1>some gifts so that they can move back and forth.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the wave action basically moves the walls. So, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we we're saying Venice is a mess, but it's really

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<v Speaker 1>an ingenious city of just engineering. The fact that it's

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<v Speaker 1>still there at all. You know. Another construction point that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stuck out to me was that buildings in

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<v Speaker 1>Venice are built on piles of steaks, like wooden steaks,

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<v Speaker 1>driven into the ground to kind of reinforce the mucky

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<v Speaker 1>ground to build on first. It's really a remarkable place

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at all the things they've had to

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<v Speaker 1>do just to make that what shouldn't even be a city.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, let's let's get real, but it's a very neat,

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful city. Have you been. You me and I went

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<v Speaker 1>last summer, and it is gorgeous. Yeah, very neat. Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Just walking around and all of a sudden, you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm next to three thousand year old ruins just basically

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<v Speaker 1>part of the cityscape, right, whereas here in Atlanta you're like, oh,

0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:46.120
<v Speaker 1>there's a Burger king, right, but it's from the sixties exactly, Alright.

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<v Speaker 1>So we we had a pretty good cliffhanger that they

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<v Speaker 1>had an idea. So let's we'll go ahead and announce it. Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the idea is called mosa or you should do this, chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>the modulo spadimentale elector electro mechanico. So that's the experimental

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<v Speaker 1>electro mechanical module. Which is the reason that that has

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<v Speaker 1>that clumsy name is because the M O S E.

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<v Speaker 1>The acronym is also the Italian spelling from Mosa or

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<v Speaker 1>Moses and basically what the what Moses was well known for.

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<v Speaker 1>One of his many hits was parting the Red Sea. Right, Well,

0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:33.920
<v Speaker 1>they thought that was very clever hit. They were coming.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, he did a lot of stuff in Commandments.

0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:39.200
<v Speaker 1>That was a pretty big hit, Burning Bush. I would

0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:44.040
<v Speaker 1>say the Red Sea was his American pie or no, yeah,

0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:47.880
<v Speaker 1>that was his Baker Street. The Ten Commandments was his Uh,

0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:52.480
<v Speaker 1>right down the line, who did Jerry rafferty Baker Street?

0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:56.000
<v Speaker 1>That was the saxophone one right and right down the

0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:57.960
<v Speaker 1>lane was his other hit. So I've never heard that one.

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<v Speaker 1>You have? You just don't know, Okay, says you was

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<v Speaker 1>just about to bust it out too early. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>Mosa Moses in Italian. Uh, it's a that's a clever

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<v Speaker 1>use of an acronym because this thing, the contraption they

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<v Speaker 1>came up with, it's pretty ingenious and clever. To defend

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<v Speaker 1>against these rising high tides, which are known as aqua

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<v Speaker 1>alta aqua alta Yeah, and this is one of those

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<v Speaker 1>things where you say ingenious and clever, but I would

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<v Speaker 1>add in its simplicity. These are my favorite kinds of projects.

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<v Speaker 1>When man looks at something and says, well, why don't

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<v Speaker 1>we just build a big gate? And that's pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. Yeah, but it is more complicated than that.

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<v Speaker 1>And let's let's talk about the mosa So. Um. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>we said sea levels are rising in general, but high

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<v Speaker 1>tides are a really big problem in Venice because they're

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<v Speaker 1>getting higher. Um. So the Mosai project, uh is it

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<v Speaker 1>consists of a bunch of gates that can be broad

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<v Speaker 1>up and raised on command. They have a magician who

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<v Speaker 1>commands the gates to rise, and um, the gates come

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<v Speaker 1>up and basically separate the lagoon from the Adriatic Sea. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So imagine a big, huge steel door that lays flat

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<v Speaker 1>on the bottom of the ocean, and uh, they fill

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<v Speaker 1>it with air and it's got two hinges on one side,

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<v Speaker 1>So that big steel door just raises up as it

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<v Speaker 1>fills with air, obviously becoming more buoyant, and until it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like about a forty five degree angle, uh, facing

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<v Speaker 1>out into the sea away from the city. And that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a barrier. It just swings up and I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's about a two foot differential in the water levels.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, it essentially prevents high tide from happening within

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<v Speaker 1>the Venice Lagoon. That's exactly right. And um, these these

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<v Speaker 1>basically walls, floating walls is what they amount to. Like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, they have hinges on the bottom. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's all sorts of pictures of the Mose project, the

0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:09.440
<v Speaker 1>mosa A project, um, all over the internet. I found

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<v Speaker 1>it exponentially easier to understand when I saw what they

0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:16.639
<v Speaker 1>were talking about. It's like, oh, that's all it is.

0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:22.600
<v Speaker 1>But allow us to clumsily try to get this across.

0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:26.680
<v Speaker 1>So you've got the hinges, um hinge, the metal wall

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<v Speaker 1>to the bottom of the sea floor right, well, not

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<v Speaker 1>to the sea floor, well to a concrete trench within

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<v Speaker 1>the sea floor that the thing sits in when it's

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<v Speaker 1>not in use. Yeah, they tried to pound it right

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<v Speaker 1>into the sand and they were like, it's not a

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<v Speaker 1>working right, get us some concrete. So they these trenches

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<v Speaker 1>also provide a place for engineers to go underneath and

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<v Speaker 1>basically fix things and fiddle with stuff. And it also

0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:52.840
<v Speaker 1>provides the delivery system for the compressed air that the

0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:58.200
<v Speaker 1>hollow metal walls gates basically um fill up with air

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<v Speaker 1>so that they start to stand upright, Yeah, And how

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<v Speaker 1>long does that take? Like twenty minutes or thirty minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>and then uh, it takes about the same time for

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<v Speaker 1>it to fill them with seawater again to return them

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<v Speaker 1>back to their laying position on the floor. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a little quicker going down, but which makes sense. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's pretty much it. When the high tides coming,

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<v Speaker 1>they fill them with air so that the gates stand

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<v Speaker 1>up above water. And then on the lagoon side, the

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<v Speaker 1>sea level stays low. On the sea side, it can

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<v Speaker 1>get as high as it likes. And because they're hinged

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<v Speaker 1>and filled with air, they're not rigid, which means that

0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:34.240
<v Speaker 1>they can take a pounding and they can sway back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth a little bit and still not give. So

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<v Speaker 1>it is, like you said, it's it's ingenious in its simplicity.

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<v Speaker 1>It is and it's uh officially launched in two thousand three,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was and this was after years and years

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<v Speaker 1>of um I guess ideas and bids and plans, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Mosai project is what finally went out. They said

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<v Speaker 1>it was gonna be two to three billion dollars and

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<v Speaker 1>would be on Uh it's still not done. They're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at now. Um. They did the first successful test late

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<v Speaker 1>last year, and like with every big project, city project

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<v Speaker 1>like that, it's going to be over budget and over

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<v Speaker 1>uh schedule. Yes, but there's a lot of accusations of corruption.

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<v Speaker 1>Really yeah, Southern Italy a big public project, so corrupt.

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<v Speaker 1>The the group that suggested the thing in the first

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<v Speaker 1>place is called the you want to take it? Someone's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be offended by me, by the way. Maybe I'll

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<v Speaker 1>bet they're not Italian. The Consortio then no EVA, So

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<v Speaker 1>that's basically the new Venice Consortium. It's a group of

0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:46.399
<v Speaker 1>companies and construction companies that said, hey, we've got an

0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:49.680
<v Speaker 1>idea for this problem. Let's try this. Yeah, and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>build it for you. We had all the companies under

0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:56.160
<v Speaker 1>our banner that can provide everything you need, and they said,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll build it for you for two to three billion

0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:02.359
<v Speaker 1>dollars and every but you want what which sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, including to people in Venice, is that American

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<v Speaker 1>dollars or is that euros? That's American dollars As far

0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:12.159
<v Speaker 1>as I'm seeing right here. Um, but if you go

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<v Speaker 1>to Venice like uh, martinis like fifteen dollars, it's like

0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:21.520
<v Speaker 1>twenty or five bucks for like a little tiny martini

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<v Speaker 1>at Harry's Bar. I know. So it sounds like a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>But all you have to do is go open the

0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:29.800
<v Speaker 1>cash register at Harry's Bar in a Tuesday afternoon and

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<v Speaker 1>you can get two to three billion dollars to pay

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<v Speaker 1>for this project. You know, Alright, someone's a little salty

0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:38.840
<v Speaker 1>about their business. It was really expensive. It was neat,

0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:44.360
<v Speaker 1>but it's also like really expensive. Epe is not cheap. No. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So there was a lot of a lot of accusations

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<v Speaker 1>of corruption, of kickbacks, the other thing being artificially expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently there was a study that found like this thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>they've padded this tremendously. But by the time this came

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<v Speaker 1>amount um public opinion apparently wasn't enough to stop at

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<v Speaker 1>construction had started. They did their first test in two

0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:11.639
<v Speaker 1>dozen twelve apparently was successful. And the Mosai project continues,

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<v Speaker 1>and I believe they're they're tracking for two thousand sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>to have all of the gates across all three of

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<v Speaker 1>the inlets operational. Yeah, and you said multiple gates. So

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<v Speaker 1>each of these uh inlets. You have the Leado, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the Malamoco, and then I pronounce this Cheogia, but I

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<v Speaker 1>heard it much much differently on the video, so I

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<v Speaker 1>know that's not right. But those are the three inlets,

0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:39.440
<v Speaker 1>and um, well that was a British student. They just

0:21:39.480 --> 0:21:43.040
<v Speaker 1>pronounced things however they want, and then we assume because

0:21:43.080 --> 0:21:46.959
<v Speaker 1>they're European they know you're right. Uh. So it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like one big gate for each of these things because

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<v Speaker 1>it's on a curve and you can't just have one

0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:56.800
<v Speaker 1>huge gate. So the um, the Malamoco and the Cheogia

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<v Speaker 1>have Uh, the Malamoco is nineteen gate, that g has eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're all in one row. And then the big daddy,

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<v Speaker 1>the Leado has two rows, one with twenty gates and

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<v Speaker 1>with one gates. Yeah, and we're not all the same

0:22:09.800 --> 0:22:11.840
<v Speaker 1>same they're the same width, but they're not all the

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<v Speaker 1>same height, right, And I mean they don't need to

0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:19.320
<v Speaker 1>be summer taller than others. They're all about sixteen ft thick.

0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:23.879
<v Speaker 1>So these are huge, huge walled gates. So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think we should I don't know if we've gotten across

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<v Speaker 1>how big they are you said there's sixteen ft or

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<v Speaker 1>about five meters thick. Um, they're the the deepest amount

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<v Speaker 1>of water is a hundred feet, which is like thirty meters. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>so these things are taller than that or if need be. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>uh and then they're uh what about three d and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty tons. I think that's just for like one of

0:22:50.320 --> 0:22:54.800
<v Speaker 1>the gates. Yes, like one single panel could weighs as

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<v Speaker 1>much as a seven thirty seven seven seven And they

0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:03.000
<v Speaker 1>they are using something that Rolls Royce makes that is

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<v Speaker 1>basically an elevator for ships to convey each of the

0:23:06.720 --> 0:23:10.040
<v Speaker 1>gates out to the sea floor. Yeah. And it takes

0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:13.080
<v Speaker 1>three days to move a gate. Yeah. So they're really

0:23:13.160 --> 0:23:16.159
<v Speaker 1>really big gates, but they are going to be very

0:23:16.240 --> 0:23:19.840
<v Speaker 1>nimble when filled with compressed air and smacked around by waves.

0:23:20.040 --> 0:23:22.920
<v Speaker 1>Plus they're in water, so that helps with the weight.

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<v Speaker 1>That reminds me that this project faces a lot of

0:23:25.760 --> 0:23:29.920
<v Speaker 1>problems that that the project faces. So there's there's some

0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:32.840
<v Speaker 1>people have said, maybe this is a good idea in theory,

0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:35.760
<v Speaker 1>but practically this may or may not work. What it's

0:23:35.760 --> 0:23:38.840
<v Speaker 1>sea levels rise faster than we think, then these things

0:23:38.880 --> 0:23:43.920
<v Speaker 1>are going to basically be very expensive, totally obsolete gates,

0:23:43.960 --> 0:23:45.800
<v Speaker 1>like the water would just go right over the top

0:23:45.840 --> 0:23:49.320
<v Speaker 1>of the exactly. That's a nightmare scenario. Yeah that when

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<v Speaker 1>I when I saw what I saw, it didn't look

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<v Speaker 1>like to me they came out of the water enough.

0:23:53.680 --> 0:23:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I would add another five feet. Yeah,

0:23:56.160 --> 0:23:59.280
<v Speaker 1>just to be safe, Just to be safe, you know. Um,

0:23:59.400 --> 0:24:03.399
<v Speaker 1>So that's one possible problem. Another one that apparently they

0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:05.639
<v Speaker 1>haven't addressed is the build up a sediment. Remember we

0:24:05.640 --> 0:24:08.399
<v Speaker 1>said that you have to clean out the canals pretty

0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:11.920
<v Speaker 1>frequently because sediment builds up backs up septic systems, that

0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:16.080
<v Speaker 1>crumbles brick walls. Well, it will also fill in these trenches,

0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:20.720
<v Speaker 1>which apparently need to be totally flat, and as sediment

0:24:20.760 --> 0:24:23.720
<v Speaker 1>builds up, then these things aren't going to lay flat again,

0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:26.919
<v Speaker 1>and you may have some problems. Apparently that's something that

0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:30.440
<v Speaker 1>hasn't been addressed by the Mosai project. How to deal

0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:33.280
<v Speaker 1>with sediment build up. Well, I know they've got about

0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:35.520
<v Speaker 1>a hundred and fifty people that will just be full

0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:40.639
<v Speaker 1>time caretaking staff. Uh, And I guess part of their

0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:43.000
<v Speaker 1>job will be to clean that stuff up. Huh. I

0:24:43.040 --> 0:24:46.520
<v Speaker 1>would guess. Uh. And some of the other problems. Um,

0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:50.920
<v Speaker 1>anytime you're undertaking a project like this has to interact

0:24:50.960 --> 0:24:54.879
<v Speaker 1>with the elements and mother nature, they're going to be

0:24:54.960 --> 0:25:01.800
<v Speaker 1>environmental concerns and uh. They range the spectrum here from

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<v Speaker 1>we don't really know how this is going to affect things,

0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:08.879
<v Speaker 1>uh and disrupt the ecosystem too. Well, wait a minute,

0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:12.359
<v Speaker 1>we need this constant flow in and out of water

0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:16.320
<v Speaker 1>twice a day two flush our giant toilet that we're

0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:20.640
<v Speaker 1>living in, right Uh. And proponents will say it's gonna

0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:24.320
<v Speaker 1>be better actually because and it sort of makes sense

0:25:24.359 --> 0:25:30.040
<v Speaker 1>if there's, um, if you have three holes going into

0:25:30.040 --> 0:25:32.120
<v Speaker 1>something and you plug up two of them, you're gonna

0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:34.480
<v Speaker 1>have a stronger flow in the one hole, right exactly.

0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:37.639
<v Speaker 1>So they're saying, we can actually use this to manipulate

0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:40.719
<v Speaker 1>this flow of water artificially and make a better toilet

0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:44.159
<v Speaker 1>flusher exactly. Yeah. Yeah, but I think that Hopefully the

0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:46.000
<v Speaker 1>ones who are like, well, but why don't we just

0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:50.160
<v Speaker 1>use this as a an opportunity to update our septic

0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:52.960
<v Speaker 1>system as a whole or sewer system as a whole,

0:25:53.400 --> 0:25:56.639
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully those guys will win out. But pollution, increased pollution

0:25:56.720 --> 0:25:59.480
<v Speaker 1>levels are definitely an issue that environmentalists are looking at.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, I just get the picture in southern Italy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a tough Uh, it's tough game, you know. It

0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:08.720
<v Speaker 1>seems to be a lot of fighting. Like this is

0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:12.040
<v Speaker 1>a very controversial project, but it still remains so Yeah,

0:26:12.119 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 1>and it seems to be marching on. They they One

0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:18.439
<v Speaker 1>of the other criticisms was that they they basically just

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<v Speaker 1>ignored easier, less expensive options that have proven effective elsewhere

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<v Speaker 1>the Netherlands. Yeah, are like building barrier islands, underwater dikes.

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<v Speaker 1>But although apparently they have a lot of this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>already and it's not necessarily helping. It's mainly just reinforcing

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<v Speaker 1>the natural um barriers that already exist. I guess they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't we just put up more of that? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's interesting to Uh, it's gonna be interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to see how this plays out. I really hope it works,

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<v Speaker 1>because they've sunk a lot of money into this and

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<v Speaker 1>they I mean, they moved all in on this mosa system.

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<v Speaker 1>Like they can't wrap it and say, well, it didn't work,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's think of something new. Yeah, And I wonder how

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<v Speaker 1>how much it would be to just like that. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't just add a new gate, a new taller gate.

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<v Speaker 1>If the sea levels do rise faster, and they these

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<v Speaker 1>these the ones they have proved too short because it

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:20.359
<v Speaker 1>has to sit flush in the trench. So you'd have

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<v Speaker 1>to create a whole another trench to accommodate this larger

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<v Speaker 1>gate would be a real problem. That's the worst case

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<v Speaker 1>scenario to me is if it's uh yeah, if they're

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<v Speaker 1>too short, the water lefts and surely they thought of that.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't look right to me. But they know what

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing, right, I hope, so pretty neat and hopefully

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:41.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, they had all this in that that great video,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of footage where it looked like it looked

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<v Speaker 1>like some parts of Venice on a daily basis with

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<v Speaker 1>high tide is slightly underwater. Yeah. They to show people

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<v Speaker 1>walking to work through water and delivering stuff to places

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:56.560
<v Speaker 1>through water, and and everyone looks very sick of it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Go check out um on vimeo Venice x stage. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that is definitely worth watching. Venice backstage period. How does

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<v Speaker 1>Venice work? I think they meant to put a cole

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<v Speaker 1>in there. The period bugs me a period in a

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<v Speaker 1>title dif from England. Josh, No, these are the Venetians

0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:16.879
<v Speaker 1>that made this diffrom Venice, Josh um, they know what

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing. Yeah, and check out stuff on the MOSE

0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:23.440
<v Speaker 1>project Mose Mose. I just want to say, moves from

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<v Speaker 1>Paper Moon your favorite movie, right boom uh. And if

0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:31.840
<v Speaker 1>you want to learn even more about the MOSE project,

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<v Speaker 1>you can type in m O s E Project in

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<v Speaker 1>the search bar how stuff works dot Com and that

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<v Speaker 1>will bring up this article. Yeah, and hey, check out

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<v Speaker 1>Venice is sinking from Appens, Georgia. Yeah, that's nice. My

0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:45.840
<v Speaker 1>one buddy is no longer in the band, but you're

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 1>still friendly with the other guys. They haven't been in

0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:53.080
<v Speaker 1>touch actually, but they said they said record and they're

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<v Speaker 1>good folks. Well, and if you ever get a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to go to Venice, I recommend you do it because

0:28:58.520 --> 0:29:00.800
<v Speaker 1>it is in Neat Town. But don't go to Harry's Bar.

0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:02.760
<v Speaker 1>You have to go to Harry's Bar. Is that the

0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:06.560
<v Speaker 1>legendary place, that's where the Bellini was created? Why didn't

0:29:06.560 --> 0:29:10.040
<v Speaker 1>you have a Bellii? She had a Billiini? I had

0:29:10.080 --> 0:29:14.720
<v Speaker 1>a Martini? What a Bellinis? A peach juice, peach pure

0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:19.200
<v Speaker 1>in champagne. Very good, but again it's like basically a

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:22.080
<v Speaker 1>shot for I think it was like twenty five dollars

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:25.680
<v Speaker 1>or maybe even more. Yeah, but you have to you

0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:27.760
<v Speaker 1>have to go. You walk past the seat that Hemingway

0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:31.040
<v Speaker 1>used to drink at, right, you know it's a neat place. Yeah,

0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:32.680
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of those seats around the world, though,

0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:37.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, find a cheaper one. I think we already

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<v Speaker 1>went through the whole rigamar role that leads us up

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<v Speaker 1>to listener mail. So now it's time for listener mail.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna call this murderer in our myth midst murder

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<v Speaker 1>the mist you're thinking of guerrillas in the Midst. Hey,

0:29:56.240 --> 0:29:58.440
<v Speaker 1>guys have a boring job. So I binge listen. Uh

0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:00.520
<v Speaker 1>several days a week to your show. Was listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the Insanity Defense episode and I heard a very familiar name.

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<v Speaker 1>I happened to have met John Delling during his killing spree.

0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 1>I used to manage a coffee shop and a guy

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<v Speaker 1>was oddly peering in the window with his hand pressed

0:30:13.880 --> 0:30:17.200
<v Speaker 1>against the glass though the store was clearly open. Uh.

0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:19.000
<v Speaker 1>He paced around the building for a while. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was pretty weird, so I sent the girl working

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<v Speaker 1>with me pretty brave. If you Josh, his name is

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Okay. I sent the girl working with me in

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<v Speaker 1>the back. Oh, no, okay, I take it all back.

0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:34.920
<v Speaker 1>He was trying to protect her, and that was me.

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<v Speaker 1>I sent her in the back and told her to

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:39.520
<v Speaker 1>hang out there until he left. He came in, looked

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<v Speaker 1>the menu over and asked where ice cream was any good?

0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:45.240
<v Speaker 1>I gave him a free sample. Here you go, we

0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:48.120
<v Speaker 1>don't want any trouble. He liked it. He liked it

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:49.400
<v Speaker 1>and said he had to go to his car to

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<v Speaker 1>get some money. He literally said, I'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he went out to his car for a while

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<v Speaker 1>and drove away. A couple of days later, the girl

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<v Speaker 1>I was working with that night called crying and told

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<v Speaker 1>me to find a newspaper. Well, no wonder he sent

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<v Speaker 1>it back. She's clearly fragile. She's crying that like the

0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:07.480
<v Speaker 1>guy was at the front door. She seen that Sunday

0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:11.200
<v Speaker 1>New York Times is six dollars now. On the front

0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:13.280
<v Speaker 1>page was a large mug shot of our guy from

0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:15.280
<v Speaker 1>a couple of nights previous. Turns out he had actually

0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 1>left the store and murdered someone and um because the

0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:21.320
<v Speaker 1>ice cream drove him. No, I guess so, and he

0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:24.959
<v Speaker 1>stole something. I sold her car that same evening. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>just thought it was an interesting connection. The guy was

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<v Speaker 1>definitely in need of some help, and, as you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>had no shot at getting it in the legal system

0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:36.640
<v Speaker 1>here in Idaho is clearly a tricky ethical area. Thanks everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it's from Josh knowl that's from way back

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the insanity defense. Yeah, that was a good one,

0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 1>though it turned out we learned a lot. So he

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<v Speaker 1>fed a guy ice cream anyone out and killed someone. Man,

0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:51.080
<v Speaker 1>is really scary stuff. And his coworker, who was around

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<v Speaker 1>for none of it, cried when she read the paper. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>apparently she never got any work done because anytime a

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<v Speaker 1>customer came in, she gets sent to the back, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>uh crazy. What was the dude's name? Josh and Hole?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Josh. Thanks Josh. It's always good to hear

0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:09.680
<v Speaker 1>from another Josh, because we are the greatest names on

0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 1>the planet. Josh. That's such a great name. It is,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if you say it in other ways like yosh

0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:20.320
<v Speaker 1>or hush. There's all sorts of ways you can say Josh,

0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:22.280
<v Speaker 1>but really the only right way to say it is Josh.

0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:25.680
<v Speaker 1>And it's a verb. Yeah, you can Josh and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's a friendly verb too, because you're making fun

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<v Speaker 1>of somebody, but in a non hostile way. Yeah, chuck

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:34.480
<v Speaker 1>is a verb too, how about that? Yeah, look at us, right,

0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Josh and chucking. Yeah, that's good stuff. Chuck. I can't

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