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Speaker 1: Tell us all about it. We scared her? Was it fine? Now? Porn?

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Speaker 1: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?

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Speaker 1: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?

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Speaker 1: Do you need to ride? Do your need to ride? Ride?

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Speaker 2: Do you need.

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Speaker 3: With?

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Speaker 2: Karen and Chris welcome to Do you need a ride?

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Speaker 2: This is Chris Fairbanks.

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Speaker 1: And this is Karen Kilgareff.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Karen, happy.

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Speaker 1: Hello.

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Speaker 2: Chris asked, have you been doing spring cleaning today? Would

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Speaker 3: Why is it?

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Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I feel like you're combining chimney

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I agree, I'll go I'm going to introduce our guests,

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Speaker 2: Karen do it, okay?

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Speaker 2: Our next guest is a podcaster, comedian and rapper. I

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Speaker 2: Eagle hio, Hi.

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Speaker 3: That I liked your adventure a lot?

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Speaker 2: Oh thanks, thank god?

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Speaker 3: I feel like that's kind of what lies are for,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm gonna make I'm gonna make them real

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Speaker 3: that's just not how hotels.

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Speaker 2: It's like an old motel, that kind where your car

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Speaker 2: But like a sexual villain.

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Speaker 2: Oh, they were just delivered. I believe them.

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Speaker 3: They thought they were just they thought they were being festive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, who doesn't want a pineapple? Everyone loves the sweetest fruit.

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Speaker 3: It is quite a mistake because there were people on

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, I'm on that guy's side.

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Speaker 2: When someone said, don't you know what pineapples on the

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Speaker 2: he'd be like, what what? No, I was just giving

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Speaker 1: I mean what do you think, Mike, what do you

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Speaker 3: Of it's a very cute cruise. It is. It's an

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Speaker 2: Okay, I want what is the Joe cote, Not that

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Speaker 3: But yeah I'm not because I don't know if they're

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: This was my second time doing it in March, and

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Speaker 1: It sounds like the vibe is very like theater camp,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is exactly that and Max. You've done the

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Speaker 3: I have done the Max fun Con one time. This

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Speaker 3: this is like that on the water with Booze all.

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Speaker 2: Day, right, that's Jesse Thorne did do that one. There

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Speaker 3: Well when Joco started, they didn't have the whole boat either,

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Speaker 3: It's really something and the staff is like shook and

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Speaker 3: thrilled at the same time. Well, it's amazing.

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Speaker 2: It's too late. You've efficiently promoted it. And i'd like

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Speaker 2: to submit that you be booked again next year.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'd like to clip this part and send.

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Speaker 1: We will clip it on a lease clip market clip it, send.

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Speaker 3: It everything after the Pineapple things.

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Speaker 1: Right, right, don't tell them that we busted them. I

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Speaker 3: It's really fantastic. I mean it didn't get to pineapple

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Speaker 1: Do it because you do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you

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Speaker 3: It's cool. Yeah, we call that banter, and banter is hard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah? The bar so low. People call the music shows.

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Speaker 3: That's right, you can have you can have pineapple to

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Speaker 2: I think that the Jupiter it's to go back to that.

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Speaker 2: Walking by, but you can hear my nose goes. And

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Speaker 2: there many times. It's a let's another shout out to

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Speaker 1: And is it the Doug Fer has that awesome diner.

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Speaker 1: So like yeah, in the morning, like when it's a

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Speaker 3: Yeah? It's in if you go downstairs and it's and

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00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 3: it's like it's like a downstairs treehouse. Five Yeah. Yeah,

445
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 3: like logs everywhere and shit, it's incredible and it sounds

446
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 3: really good and it is legitimately my favorite venue in

447
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 3: the entire world. Wow, it's no better, Like, there's no

448
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 3: better place.

449
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 2: I don't know why I've forgotten about because I record

450
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 2: my special in Portland and I just someone told me

451
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 2: where to do it and it was a regular theater.

452
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 2: I yeah, that's the best. It esthetically looks like a

453
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 2: seventies Yeah, carpet covered like tree for it vibe.

454
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 3: Like a like a lodge. Yeah, it's like a lodge.

455
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 2: Okay.

456
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: When I did that venue, I totally agree. There's like

457
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 1: almost a built in energy because of the way it's

458
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 1: like they really mapped it out perfectly, especially for comedy,

459
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: because I remember doing it, and I was just doing

460
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: regular stand up, I wasn't doing music, and I was

461
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 1: just its like, this is what I've been working on

462
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 1: the least, and I don't have a lot of faith

463
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 1: in it. I'm like, you can't not have faith when

464
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: you go up there, because this place is packed, everyone's

465
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 1: killing like it's all good. And then I just felt

466
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: like the way it was set up, it almost it's

467
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 1: like it's telling the audience like you're in this very

468
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 1: specific type of show and you're in a showroom almost

469
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 1: like the audience can look at each other and look

470
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 1: at you, and it's just very it feels like it

471
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 1: was built to be supportive, designed in that way.

472
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 3: It feels like, you know what, you know what reminds

473
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 3: me of is it? A lot of places suck? A

474
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 3: lot of places, aren't that? A lot of places are terrible.

475
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 3: I know a lot of bad venues. When I go

476
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 3: on tour, that place is fucking great. Yeah.

477
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 2: Yes, even venues that people I of course won't name

478
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 2: names I probably well they'll just fly out of my mouth.

479
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 2: But when it's like banquet seating, oh my gosh, and

480
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 2: people have to look from the side, It's like, wait,

481
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 2: is this the renowned. I almost said it, but it's like,

482
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 2: I've heard so many good things. What if you have

483
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 2: a stiff neck and you can't people don't want to

484
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 2: turn like that and you're facing other people. Nothing will

485
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 2: ruin a comedy show like facing your best friend's wife,

486
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like, I just like traditional theater,

487
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 2: shoulder to shoulder. You forget that they're there, like you're

488
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 2: at the movies.

489
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 3: Are you talking about that place in Hollywood?

490
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 2: No? No, No, it was a I'll tell you later

491
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 2: because it's in Chicago. I was like, oh boy, I

492
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 2: was very much looked excited, and then I was like, oh,

493
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 2: it's a dinner banquet hall. There's glass everywhere and I

494
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,239
Speaker 2: can see cars, and uh. I think it was a

495
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 2: situation where I went to a place where there isn't

496
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 2: always comedy and maybe it's better for like dinner theater lounge,

497
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 2: you know, and improvised performance of David and Lisa or

498
00:25:54,560 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 2: who murdered the chef? I don't know, but at.

499
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: David and Lisa, Yeah, I don't know. That is a

500
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: pull from the late sixties.

501
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 2: I did it. I was in that once and I

502
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 2: don't know.

503
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 3: What David and or Lisa do. I've never heard of

504
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 3: this thing. Premise.

505
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: It's it was a play that then they made into

506
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: a movie, and it's basically kind of about two disturbed

507
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: is it? Are they teenagers or like young people?

508
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 2: All I remembered and correct me if I'm wrong. The

509
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 2: audience was involved to interact. It was like a they

510
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 2: not a choose your own adventure dictated by the audience.

511
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,199
Speaker 2: But if that hasn't been thought of, I just invented it.

512
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 2: Don't steal my idea.

513
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: Poor man's copyright.

514
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's got it to see what the circle around it.

515
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 2: But I thought it was a I don't know what

516
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 2: I guess. I don't know what dinner theater is except

517
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 2: you're eating and watching.

518
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: No, no, no, it would be like that is a play, yeah,

519
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: and but then it isn't. That's a very weird play

520
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,919
Speaker 1: because it's basically about two people that are at like

521
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: kind of like an asylum that finned each other and

522
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: follow it right, So to do that for dinner theater

523
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: is kind of intense.

524
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 2: I didn't do it. I rehearsed it several times and

525
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 2: then I was like, never mind, guys, and I moved

526
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 2: to Austin then started doing stand up. It was a

527
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 2: It was a in the world where thank God the

528
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:20,719
Speaker 2: devil top made the fiddle.

529
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 3: What I am? I am sort of sort of curious now.

530
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 3: I feel like when I see asylums on television, they

531
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 3: usually gender split asylums in real life have to be coed.

532
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 3: But that seems like problematic. Yes, it seems like that

533
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 3: could lead to all sorts of issues it.

534
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: For sure, I think. Yeah, although although I could be

535
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: remembering this like I could be combining movies because I

536
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: saw it as a movie, so I could definitely be

537
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 1: combining plots. But I just know that they were both

538
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: mentally unwell young people and that that found each other, right.

539
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, you don't want people like wandering around in

540
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: robes are like you know, open back medical gowns, right.

541
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 3: Right, that that might have challenges that sort of don't

542
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 3: compliment each other. Yeah, that seems like I could get messy.

543
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 2: And it happens I know from experience, not as a

544
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 2: guest but a visitor of you know, assisted living facilities.

545
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 2: People be fucking like, oh everyone has crabs right now.

546
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not trying to be dirty or sultry.

547
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 2: It's something my experience.

548
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: It's not sultry. So don't worry about.

549
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 2: That old people. That's old school crabs. No, So everyone fucks,

550
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 2: let's talk about it. I all of a sudden, I'm

551
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 2: holding a pineapple.

552
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: Because you've lost your mind. I know, I know.

553
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, if you're in.

554
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: The mike, you sounded very passionate when you were talking

555
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: about bad venues. Do you want to just describe like

556
00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: a worst case scenario bad.

557
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 3: There's there's another place in Portland that to me, it's

558
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 3: like this is the ab like one of these places

559
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 3: in Portland that I've played. I think I got tricked

560
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 3: into thinking that, like all the places in Portland were

561
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 3: cool because I played like a couple cool places and

562
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 3: this one was like it was it was like a

563
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 3: theater and you know, luckily for me, there weren't seats,

564
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 3: but it had that same sort of like sterile vibe

565
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 3: and like the green room was a very small dressing

566
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 3: room with you know, with the light bulbs around. Yeah

567
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 3: I don't need that ship. I need outlets and a

568
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 3: place to smoke marijuana. Yeah yeah, yeah, I don't.

569
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: You don't need a mirror to touch your own face

570
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: and be like, come on, we can do this.

571
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no powder going on my nose at all.

572
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 3: But the yeah, the vibe was too sterile. This like yeah,

573
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 3: and it was a place where there's a balcony, would

574
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 3: have bunch of seeds, and it was just like you

575
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 3: could tell that this was a place that people go

576
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 3: to because there's somebody there that they want to see.

577
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 3: But they wouldn't go there just to have fun on it, right,

578
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 3: Like people don't just show up there to have a

579
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 3: good time, yea, And like that's that's Those are the

580
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 3: venues I typically don't like, are the ones where people

581
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 3: don't just go hang out. It's not a hang It's

582
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 3: like you kind of have to go to see this

583
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 3: thing you want to see and then you get the

584
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 3: fuck out of there as soon as it's over.

585
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Like there's a formality to it

586
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: that doesn't isn't conducive.

587
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 3: To what I to show you, Yeah, exactly.

588
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 2: It is funny. It's funny you bring up that light

589
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 2: bulb blind mirror, because every time I see it, I'm like, oh,

590
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 2: for God's sake, but they think I'm lines them in

591
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 2: La thirty years ago. I gotta it showtime. Actually, it

592
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 2: makes me nervous. Those things.

593
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it should be called crisis mirrors. Yeah, that's what

594
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 3: they're there for.

595
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: Well, I.

596
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 3: To look back on your life and the choices that

597
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 3: have led you to this moment. That's what they're there for.

598
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: And then put on your black Swan costume and go

599
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: out there and dance, dance, dance.

600
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: That's so great. And I think I know exactly where

601
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 2: you're talking about, but we'll wait until we're done recording.

602
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 2: Are you what are you working on now? Are you?

603
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: Are you have any albums? Or are you there? Yeah?

604
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I'm for any Oh gosh, I'm actually going

605
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 3: to have a session with a couple of OG's tomorrow.

606
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 3: I'm really looking forward to that.

607
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 2: But I've been saying who or do you want it?

608
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 3: Well, I don't want to say you might not come.

609
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, hey.

610
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: But you said and then you just get called on it.

611
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 3: Well, I guess it doesn't matter as supposed to come

612
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 3: through sessions.

613
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 2: To me, that's that's who I wanted to go. I didn't,

614
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 2: I didn't jink. It's okay. That's a lot of people

615
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: are scared about putting things into the universe or jinxing thing.

616
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 2: I think it's I think you did a good thing

617
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 2: by saying.

618
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I thought about it, and yeah, worst

619
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 3: case scenario, he hears this, it would be or somebody,

620
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 3: but it would be after it either happened or didn't

621
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 3: happen anyway, so okay, and.

622
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 2: He already wouldn't be listening because I the last time

623
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 2: when I said something about Freestyle Fellowship being comedic rap

624
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 2: to me, it was that I still flinch when I

625
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 2: remember I said that, and so why would I repeat

626
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 2: it now? The point is my friends and I that's

627
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: how we connected with that album. We were like, that

628
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 2: is the funniest because you know, everyone was kids when

629
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,719
Speaker 2: there's you know, it's like probably sixteen or seventeen some

630
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 2: of those songs, And I just liked the the it

631
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 2: was comedic.

632
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 3: And I think, yeah, they had they had funny moments,

633
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 3: they had little skits and sketches. Yeah, personality, Yeah, you know,

634
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 3: I mean, I think, yeah, it's probably tough to call him,

635
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 3: uh comedic because they were very technical, very technical rappers.

636
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 3: So it's like, you know, if if you're a casual person,

637
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 3: hearing them funny, isn't the first thing that's gonna come

638
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 3: to your mind.

639
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 2: Someone's rapping, and then nice start saying it like that.

640
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, do you think everyone's going to

641
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 2: be listening and turtle neecks? I go, yes, you know

642
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 2: there was That's what I maybe laughed like all the

643
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 2: Black Sheep did that too, and I don't a lot

644
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 2: of those groups when they would break I guess it's

645
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 2: sudden breaking off into song makes me laugh. Maybe that's

646
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 2: what it is.

647
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 3: The Far Side must have been comedy raps.

648
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 2: I mean they legitimately funny lyrics, though there's no exactly.

649
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,719
Speaker 3: Like they were. They were trying to be funny in

650
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 3: the raps and also breaking into song.

651
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: I was. I was doing stand up at a cap aromo.

652
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 2: Do you remember that, Karen? It was like a an

653
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 2: open mic, but.

654
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: It was like was it upstairs?

655
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 2: It was ground level like a CD hotel, But I

656
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 2: was talking. I don't ever do crowd work. But there

657
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 2: was a guy with notebook and there was pieces of

658
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 2: paper hanging out of it, and I was like, Oh,

659
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 2: are you going up tonight? And he's like, no, no,

660
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 2: I'm a musician. And then I realized in that moment

661
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 2: it was fat Lip and I was like, and I

662
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 2: nerd out. I've liked this guy since I was a kid,

663
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I started like shaking. I'm like, did

664
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 2: it begin with an F? And he's like yeah, And

665
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, you're like what I like, I think

666
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 2: you're I And then I just started eating it. But

667
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 2: he was real nice. He went up to every comic he.

668
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: Said, wait, I'm sorry, this was during your set.

669
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh shit.

670
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 3: I didn't put that together.

671
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 2: Either, told him wrong. I recognized him while talking, Hey,

672
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 2: what are you but in my comic and I'm like, a fuck,

673
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 2: I know your face.

674
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, while you're doing crowd work and happened upon someone

675
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 3: you were a fan of. Yes, that's like a nightmare

676
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 3: you right.

677
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 2: I never Yeah, I can't believe that's a fresh one

678
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 2: I've ever even shared with you, Karen. It was I've

679
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 2: never heard that story. He was so sweet and he

680
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 2: was like hanging out and talking to all the He

681
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 2: was like, I love comedy and he went there to

682
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 2: watch the show. I think he was there writing, you know,

683
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 2: and then hey, there's a comedy show and he decided

684
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 2: to stay, which that alone I appreciate.

685
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's very nice.

686
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so funny. While trying to do my crappy

687
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 2: what do you do for a living Oh my favorite

688
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 2: of all time rap group.

689
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, it's probably harder because he's not like a

690
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 3: household name, so like you're nerding out maybe by yourself,

691
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 3: right on stage and people are like, what is going on?

692
00:35:58,719 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 3: Is this a bit?

693
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 2: And I think maybe he appreciated that.

694
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fantastic. Yeah, that's fantastic.

695
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: That's hilarious. Also, what if the next time you heard uh, yes,

696
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 1: he was in the far side. Sorry I don't know this.

697
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 3: Yes, fat well.

698
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: I did see them at a festival one time that

699
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: was at like Northridge, because I went with like Brian

700
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 1: Posaying a bunch of like a bunch of comics, And

701
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: when their set started, it was as if everyone decided

702
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: to start smoking pot at the same time. So this

703
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: literal wall of pot smoke went up, like people were

704
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: doing it here and there, but suddenly it was just

705
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: like like there was a cloud in front of us

706
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: in the middle of the day. It was one of

707
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,439
Speaker 1: the funniest, coolest things I'd ever.

708
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: Seen, but which I knew what song it was. Maybe

709
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 2: it would help explain.

710
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 3: Maybe it's past the pipe.

711
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would make sense if it would they open

712
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: with that.

713
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 3: I mean maybe, yeah, I mean, was it a college

714
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 3: Was it a college show? Because that that was I mean,

715
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 3: they shouldn't open with that. It's not a way. It's

716
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 3: not a great way to get booked again.

717
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you'd want to do the apple for my

718
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 2: teacher because I knew I get a kiss one.

719
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 3: Yeah thats educational.

720
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I just realized that trick him into thinking

721
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: that you're you're mostly an educational rapper that's going to

722
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 1: talk about.

723
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 3: All these songs are about school.

724
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: They're all all about school teachers.

725
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: You know, that's our thing, libraries, hanging out in libraries.

726
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

727
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 2: Well, I'm excited for you to record in the studio

728
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 2: tomorrow with the people you said that are going to

729
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 2: be there.

730
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 3: Yes, he's the reason I'm a part of project though. Yeah,

731
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 3: because a.

732
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's terrific. I So I saw him here

733
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 2: at the Virgil and it was really, really great. And

734
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 2: I didn't realize a lot of those freestyle Fellowship songs

735
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 2: were from when he was a kid, because he's like,

736
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 2: oh I wrote this when I was seventeen, and him

737
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: a skateboard, tennishe ice cream shop. Want just list of

738
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 2: things that that is that cornbread?

739
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 3: Corn bread? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it is. Yeah, him

740
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 3: and Micah nine. They had a group before Freestyle, the Fellowship.

741
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 3: Oh God, I can't remember the name of it, but yeah,

742
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 3: they used to do routines. Like I was. I interviewed

743
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 3: MIKEA and nine for my podcast. He was telling me

744
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 3: about this one time in the late eighties where like

745
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 3: they saw run DMC and a Burger King and they

746
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 3: ran in and tried to battle them, and and they

747
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 3: they yeah, they kicked their rhymes and run DMC was like, yeah,

748
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 3: that's cool. Y'all talked to jam Master Jay and then

749
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 3: they left. They had a plane to catch. Yeah, they

750
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 3: did it.

751
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: We didn't want to battle. Yeah, we'll give you what

752
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 2: you're looking for, a.

753
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 3: Good job, right, oh man.

754
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, they saw me in a place and they're

755
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 2: like that this is our chance.

756
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 3: They yeah, that's that's that's the fucked up thing about

757
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 3: rappers were so competitive and it's and it's it started

758
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 3: out as such a street corner culture that if you're

759
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 3: really into it, you're expecting other people to be ready

760
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 3: to do it right now, yeah, right now. Like Micah

761
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 3: has multiple stories of running up to people and say it, well,

762
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 3: so with the real b boy battle at their shows,

763
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 3: at other people's shows, it doesn't matter. He was always

764
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 3: trying to do it in half the time. People would

765
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 3: engage with him and do it too. He said, Tupac

766
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 3: used to rap with him all the time because he

767
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 3: knew Tupac knew whenever Michael saw him, that's what Michael

768
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 3: was going to ask him to do.

769
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 1: Oh well, but that's kind of I mean, that feels

770
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: to me very reflective of comics riffing in that way

771
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: of these are the people. There's not a lot of

772
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: people that can do the thing that you can do,

773
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: and it keeps you on your toes if there's the

774
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 1: competitive edge to it, right.

775
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 2: Exactly that, right, exactly that Well, the anxiety that watches

776
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 2: over me though when someone says, hey, rap right now,

777
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 2: freestyle rap right now. There's been times where I will

778
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 2: at least try, but usually I just will sweat. Karen

779
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 2: and I have talked of jokingly we've done it. Please

780
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 2: don't listen to those episodes. But yeah, same goes for

781
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 2: if someone was like, you have to roast this comic.

782
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 2: That's become a thing now that I think people are

783
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 2: still into comedy roasts, right, roast battles.

784
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 3: I just I think it's become a niche, and much

785
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 3: in the same way that like battle rap has sprung

786
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 3: off and become these different niches within it. I think

787
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 3: it's it's very similar.

788
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to. I almost did the boast

789
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 2: boast battle.

790
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 3: Where you post rattle boast rattle, where you do the

791
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 3: competent Yeah.

792
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I instinctively like. Back when Eliza Skinner

793
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 2: had a show at UCB here and I'm like, let's

794
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 2: just compliment each other because you're a stranger. They there

795
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 2: was a ringer from the audience that was a really

796
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 2: good rapper, uh for just being hey, how about you?

797
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 2: But they were raising their hand and jiggling it. But

798
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 2: we just complimented each other's clothing and demeanor and face symmetric, symmetric.

799
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 3: I used to do that show all the time. That's

800
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 3: how I met a lot of people in the comedy scene,

801
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 3: is that I would do that. I would do elizas

802
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 3: Oh okay, was it the beat beat down?

803
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 2: YEA.

804
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 3: To do that all the time, that's great.

805
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 2: I always wondered how you kind of were.

806
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 3: Well, that was part of it. And then I used

807
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 3: to do I used to beg them to let me

808
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 3: be the asscat monologist, yes, and do music, you know,

809
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 3: and so people like the other improvisers would see how

810
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 3: well that went. Ye, Like my songs had funny shit

811
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 3: in them, and so then they would invite me to

812
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 3: do their shows. And then like I recorded, Like after

813
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 3: the first time I did ASCAT, it went so fucking good.

814
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 3: The next time I did it, I made sure that

815
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 3: I had a video so I could like try to

816
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 3: get on more shows. Yeah, and one of the people

817
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 3: whose shows I was trying to get on was Paul F. Tompkins. Yeah,

818
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 3: and I bugged him a lot, and he checked out

819
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 3: the video and he had he started having me on

820
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 3: on a couple of his Largo shows and that like

821
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 3: between that and Eliza's Ship, like it's just like everything

822
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 3: opened up.

823
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 2: That's so great. Yeah, that's the Those are the stomping

824
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 2: grounds that I was focused on.

825
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 3: And then I snuck in a normal monologue.

826
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, it's just more talking, and then they're

827
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 2: gonna I think of music. Version is great.

828
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 3: Those are fun nights. Yeah, these were incredibly fun nights.

829
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: So wait were you were you taking suggestions from the

830
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: audience and then improve.

831
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 3: Like no, I just I just came prepared to do

832
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 3: songs of mine that worked in that environment, and then

833
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 3: I would do the song and then they would say, hey,

834
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 3: tell me a little bit about how you came up

835
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 3: with that, and then they would riff of the song

836
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 3: and the content text around the song got it.

837
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: For a second, I just thought you you were taking

838
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: suggestions where I'm like, right, that's fucking impossible.

839
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so hard because I would not have wanted

840
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 3: to video that at all. I would not have wanted

841
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 3: to see that back after the fact.

842
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: And the times I've done it. You do as a monologist?

843
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 2: Is that the right monologus?

844
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 3: I think sologe monologist sounds.

845
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 2: It sounds someone in the audience gives a word and

846
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 2: that dictates what you talk about. Was that that way

847
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 2: for you, Karen? I think, yeah, your version is better.

848
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, well they let me do my ship and then

849
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 3: they just ripped off of it and it was great.

850
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a really good idea. That's inversely, the

851
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: first improv class I ever took, and like week three,

852
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: the improv teacher made us all get up and freestyle

853
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: wrap and I literally I was like, please don't make

854
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: me do that's a.

855
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 3: Really hard that's a really tough thing to ask people

856
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,399
Speaker 3: to do if they've never done it. Yes, I could

857
00:43:58,440 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 3: do it in front of people for the.

858
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: For the first time, and also I think for myself,

859
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: first of all, taking this improv class was very I

860
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: wish I'd done it years before because comedy is like

861
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: just played into all my control issues and basically I

862
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: decide and I'm going to plan it and blah blah blah,

863
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: and it's memorization essentially. Improv, of course, is the complete

864
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: opposite of that, and it was very difficult in and

865
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: of itself. But to me, like freestyling is such a

866
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: specialized ability that has so much to do with literally

867
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: just like opening your mind and trusting your brain, which

868
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: I do not feel that way about my brain or

869
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,439
Speaker 1: myself at all. And then that self consciousness of like

870
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: this this is absolutely going to go badly. It's not

871
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: like I can pretend I'm a waitress and we're improvising

872
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: a scene about ordering a hamburger. It's just like you

873
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: want me to just train of thought like whatever is

874
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: going to come out of my head. No thanks, I

875
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: don't want to reveal that shit about myself, like it's

876
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: boses you in so I.

877
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 3: Want to hear something interesting. That very line of thinking,

878
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 3: right there is why in the last couple of years

879
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 3: I have decided not to banter in my live shows,

880
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 3: because I have learned the hard way that if I

881
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 3: venture without a plan, I'm going to say something fucking dark, right,

882
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 3: that's great, and I'm going to suck the fucking energy

883
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 3: out of the room and dig us and dig a

884
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,919
Speaker 3: hole that I have to climb out of my job

885
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 3: on this podcast.

886
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, how often though, because there are times where I'm

887
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 2: watching uh freestyle rap and I can tell some of

888
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 2: the lines were sitting in the back pocket sure like,

889
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 2: and they're plugging in some guys more than others, and

890
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 2: the audience is all like, oh, this is freestyle, Like no,

891
00:45:55,760 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 2: that wasn't and that wasn't them in between I mean supervise.

892
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 2: But is anyone called out like it's yeah, if you

893
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 2: were I'm doing a comedy show that's all crowd work,

894
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 2: and you see someone doing their jokes, it's the same.

895
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 2: Do people get called out on that everywhere?

896
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 3: Not really, because I don't think people have the language

897
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 3: to know how to call it out, like right, Because

898
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 3: I did a thing for a long time where when

899
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 3: I was on tour from from city to city. When

900
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 3: I was in a city that day, I'd be trying

901
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 3: to like make notes of certain things in my head

902
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 3: that I would reference during the freestyle. Sometimes, like I

903
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 3: would remember the four things so well and do a

904
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 3: setup mentioned, set up, reference, set up reference that.

905
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 2: Like.

906
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 3: I had a couple of people ask me after, oh,

907
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 3: did you write that before? Like, and It's like, no,

908
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 3: I just noted some things and remembered them and kind

909
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 3: of did them. But I don't think. I don't think

910
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 3: people had the language to be like, hey, did you

911
00:46:55,800 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 3: think of that particular line before you got it? You know,

912
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 3: I don't know if they I don't know if people

913
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:07,399
Speaker 3: are able to ask the sort of specific question you'd

914
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 3: need to ask to get the answer, even if they

915
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 3: sensed maybe it was prepared. Yeah, I don't know if

916
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 3: they don't. I don't know if there's any room between

917
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 3: completely prepared or completely improvised in a lot of people's

918
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 3: minds when it comes right and you have to have

919
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 3: done it.

920
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I think of something that is funny in

921
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 2: a town like that, I'm like, I'll ruin it if

922
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 2: I actually overthink it. That's a funny premise. When my

923
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 2: back's against the wall, my instincts comedically will know to

924
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 2: say the right thing. I don't want to ruin it

925
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 2: by actually writing a joke I've actually I should write more.

926
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 2: That's the excuse I've given myself. Now, just work it

927
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:50,720
Speaker 2: out on stage. My riffy loose style will pull me through,

928
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 2: probably help if I type some shit out. But I know, yeah,

929
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 2: I very much relate to exactly what you said, Like

930
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 2: just how the references there and when you'll you'll know

931
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 2: what to do with them if you can just remember

932
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 2: to have the four or five things sitting there.

933
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 3: I've gotten to the point now where I don't I

934
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 3: don't even like to do that anymore though, Like I

935
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 3: like to freestyle, but I like to do it in

936
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 3: a very pure sense of just letting my mind go somewhere,

937
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 3: rather than trying to build it around this hyper local reference.

938
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 3: Because I found myf it started to feel too gimmicky.

939
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 3: Because I know people who like they really they really

940
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 3: gimmicked the shit out of it, right, and I can't.

941
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 3: I can't stand it. Like I know of quite a

942
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 3: few people who do the thing where everybody takes something

943
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 3: out of your pockets and put it in the air, right,

944
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna freestyle about every item. Yeah,

945
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 3: I see, and I'm like, yeah, that's it's not easy,

946
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 3: but it's also not very interesting.

947
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,720
Speaker 2: In the short form game. That's like the freeze tag

948
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 2: of give me that. Oh it's a steering wheel and

949
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 2: everyone laughed, yeah, because it's a plate, it's not a

950
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:08,240
Speaker 2: steering wheel.

951
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: But also the feeling like one of the best feelings.

952
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 1: And I can remember like the night and the time

953
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: where it was like probably my fourth year and stand

954
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: up and I was doing I was middling for someone

955
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: at the punchline at San Francisco, and as I was

956
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:31,919
Speaker 1: finishing a chunk and doing like that, I was on say,

957
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: the third to last joke in this area, and then

958
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,240
Speaker 1: I thought of another joke and said it and it killed.

959
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: And then I thought of another joke and said it

960
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: and it killed, and I was like it was like

961
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: I was struck by lightning, where I'm like, oh shit,

962
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 1: that's the point. It's I don't want to be up

963
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: here as a monologist. I don't want to be just

964
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: saying the same thing with a fresh take like a

965
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: weird actor. I actually want to be engaged in what

966
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 1: my point is and think of better points, and that

967
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: feeling is so fucking red that like that is the Like, however,

968
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: I can figure out a structure and I still don't

969
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: really know, but it's like the looseness scares the shit

970
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: out of me. But that's where those new ideas come.

971
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, the danger, the danger is where all the fucking

972
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 3: energy is. And like that's to say, that's like kind

973
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 3: of the same thing as like, yeah, I don't want

974
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 3: local reference guard rails. Yeah, let's just fucking go somewhere. Yeah,

975
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 3: let's just fucking go.

976
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 2: And I'm afraid I do that now, just because the

977
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,760
Speaker 2: looseness scares me. When I first started, I maybe didn't

978
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 2: even know what I was going to talk about. I

979
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 2: just had four beers and I started talking and random

980
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 2: that's how I started. Yeah, I didn't know you were

981
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 2: supposed to write stuff down. And there are times though

982
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 2: that it fails miserably, you know, And so that's why,

983
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 2: out of fear, I started making them, you know, the

984
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 2: framework of comedy, which takes away that looseness.

985
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 3: But the reason freestyling is like its kind of a

986
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 3: cheat code because as long as people are conscious of

987
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 3: the fact that you are making it up. It's really

988
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 3: impossible to bomb. Yeah, like you like the only way

989
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 3: to bomb is that like you completely stop right like

990
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 3: it's some awkward place like that's the only way to bomb.

991
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 3: Like if you as long as you're continuing to do it,

992
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 3: even if you're right fucking making up words, like, people

993
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 3: are fucking into it. They see it is this is

994
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 3: this is cool?

995
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 2: Yes, that right there is why when I was doing both,

996
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 2: there was animosity with the stand up scene against improvisors

997
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 2: because it's like, oh fuck, they could do say whatever

998
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 2: up there because people loved improv and then and I

999
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 2: loved I moved to Austin to do improv, but I

1000
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 2: realized it was two different camps and that was the

1001
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 2: that was the reason it was split. It's because yeah,

1002
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 2: they could say anything, and the audience was into it.

1003
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 2: They're like, that wasn't funny, but they just made it

1004
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 2: up that fun anything, you.

1005
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 3: Know, question for for for both of you. Something that

1006
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 3: I've seen because I know some people who are like

1007
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 3: Jedi master freestylers that they're they can hit a new

1008
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 3: awesome thought every bar with a great setup and a

1009
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 3: great punch line, all completely off the head because they're

1010
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 3: that fucking good. But I've seen it where they lose

1011
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 3: a little impact because it's so good people don't realize

1012
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 3: it's all being made up. Right. Is it possible to

1013
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 3: do that in improv or possible to do that in

1014
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 3: riffing where it's so good that people don't realize it's

1015
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 3: all being made up? Right?

1016
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 2: Then it's funny because this is exactly what when you

1017
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 2: said people come up to you and they're like, what

1018
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 2: how much of that was improvised? And what is written?

1019
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 2: I always, in order to feel comfortable improvising, I had

1020
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,959
Speaker 2: moments in my act that we're once improvised that I'm

1021
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 2: retelling and pretending happened again by accident. For a while

1022
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 2: that was my material, But then it gave you room

1023
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 2: to actually take the risk of improvising, because you know,

1024
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 2: I have this planned improv but it's a bit but

1025
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 2: it so it all seems improvised. But just like I say,

1026
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 2: with a lot of freestyle rappers have stuff in their pocket,

1027
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 2: I'm the one that does that with stand up. That's

1028
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 2: why I'm so interested in this talking about this. It

1029
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 2: is because yeah, I I with my comedy do that.

1030
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 2: I have fake improv, so I feel safe to then

1031
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 2: actually try and improv and if that falls flat, I

1032
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 2: always have my chambles Kunky soup or whatever a thing

1033
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 2: I said once actually because of Paul of Tompkins. He

1034
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 2: was like, always say chambles kunky because I just did

1035
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 2: that reversal and it. Chambles Kunky became one of my

1036
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:57,919
Speaker 2: jokes because of Paul.

1037
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 1: Well. Also, that question makes me think because I started

1038
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 1: stand up in San Francisco and it was some of

1039
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: the smartest best stand ups. It was like, you know,

1040
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: the early nineties. So it was like we would go

1041
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: every night and get to watch like Greg Proops do

1042
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 1: forty five minute sets and he was he was absolutely

1043
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: riffing of four but three quarters of his set, and

1044
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: he was riffing on a level that he It was

1045
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 1: like he was writing brand new sets every night. Whereas

1046
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 1: there was other people that you would go see and

1047
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: the first time you saw them and this happened, like

1048
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: I think it happens to everybody when they start stand up.

1049
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 1: Is you open for somebody the first night, they're the

1050
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: funniest person you've ever seen. The second night, you're like, oh, oh,

1051
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: I get it. You're doing exactly the same thing and

1052
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: then basically it's like it it goes downhill from there.

1053
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: But then there were certain comics Dana Gold, I think

1054
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: Greg Proops. There were people who got on stage and

1055
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: like they did crowd work and they did stuff and

1056
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: they just were talking. And so I think the delivery

1057
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: was so low key that no one thought it was

1058
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 1: like I felt it sitting in the back like I

1059
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: was being I could see the miracle that was so

1060
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: hard to recognize because it was just so conversational. But

1061
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 1: it was like Greg Proops especially, I watched him one time.

1062
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 1: A lady said something about Finland and he said, well,

1063
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: that's actually not true, and then got into an argument

1064
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 1: and picked up the mikes stand and started drawing in

1065
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: the air a map of Scandinavia. And I was at

1066
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 1: the back, like you, I couldn't tell you what countries

1067
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: are in this area, and he is literally like putting.

1068
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 1: He's like putting this woman very politely in her place,

1069
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: but also saying like, do not please, don't comm at

1070
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: me about Finland, because I'm going to spool you in

1071
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: a severe way. And it was like that. I think

1072
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: that set in my mind this thing where it's like

1073
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:57,280
Speaker 1: it's not about getting this standing ovation from these people.

1074
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 1: It's those fucking comics. They'll know. They'll know if you're

1075
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: just doing the same act, they'll know what you're doing,

1076
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 1: and if you're making something up, and then it's that

1077
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 1: idea like you know, Paul or Andy Kindler. There's a

1078
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: lot of people like that. When you could hear them laughing,

1079
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,280
Speaker 1: you were like, Okay, I'm doing something.

1080
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 2: And I'm one to testify that the living you can

1081
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 2: make off of other comics liking you is so lucrative

1082
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 2: that back of the room money didn't look at this place,

1083
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 2: That wallpaper didn't buy itself. It's funny you brought up

1084
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,439
Speaker 2: Greg Proops because I've always wondered what that is. One

1085
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 2: of the main when I first would see him at Largo,

1086
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, some of this has to be planned, but

1087
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:44,479
Speaker 2: it might be fake loose so he can actually riff.

1088
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Speaker 2: You're saying he just was.

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Speaker 1: He jokes, but most of the time, and especially it

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Speaker 1: shows like Largo, he would do whatever he wanted because

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Speaker 1: he I think his IQ is like fucking two hundred

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Speaker 1: or something. I mean, like he just is. I've just

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00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: seen him so many sets of his that I it

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Speaker 1: was proven to me that he is like kind of masterful. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: in that way. So I think there are It's just hard.

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Speaker 1: I think that people that are really really good at

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Speaker 1: it are hard to recognize because being low key is

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Speaker 1: part of their style. It's not the big like yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah right, they're not they're not telling you that

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Speaker 3: they're making this up. They're just making it up. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love I I guess I've always realized it,

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Speaker 2: but I love how we are realizing right now what

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Speaker 2: similar worlds hip hop and comedy are.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, creatively and stuff. I'm pretty comfortable

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Speaker 3: in both and also feel out of place in both.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 1: Well, that went by really fast.

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Speaker 2: I knew what.

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Speaker 3: I agree.

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Speaker 1: That was one of our faster podcasts. But we're so

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Speaker 1: excited to have you back. Obviously we're we're nerds for you, Mike,

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Speaker 1: they just are.

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Speaker 3: It makes it makes my Philip with anxiety and intimidation.

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Speaker 2: No, you you make you make this easy. And we

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Speaker 2: we were gloating about you after recording last time, and

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Speaker 2: it's great to have you back.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me bag this is this is super

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Speaker 3: fun and I'm way more comfortable this time.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that funny. Everyone's nervous. We were nervous here.

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Speaker 3: I was very nice. I love it.

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Speaker 1: Do you have anything you want to plug or like?

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Speaker 3: Aside from the well, you know what I'm I'm streaming

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Speaker 3: on Twitch a lot, So if you don't know that,

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Speaker 3: check me out there Twitch dot com, slash Open, Underscore,

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Speaker 3: Mike Underscore, Egle. I'm doing it a lot.

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Speaker 2: Oh cool.

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Speaker 3: So I need to let people know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the that's the hardest part of

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Speaker 2: this job.

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Speaker 3: That's the part.

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Speaker 2: What kind of a narcissist lets people know they're doing things.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for being on.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: You've been listening to Do You Need a Ride? D

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Speaker 2: y n Are. This has been an Exactly.

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Speaker 1: Right production, produced by Annalise Nelson, mixed by Edson Choi.

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Speaker 1: Our talent booker is Patrick Coottner.

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Speaker 2: Theme song by Karen Kilgarrett.

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Speaker 1: Artwork by Chris Fairbanks. Follow the show on Instagram, Twitter,

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Speaker 1: and Facebook at dinar podcast That's d y nar Podcast.

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Speaker 2: For more information, go to Exactly Rightmedia dot com.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Oh You're welcome.

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Speaker 2: Hong Kong