1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles. Oh ahead, 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: he got Jack. This is the Big Red Rain presented 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: by Santanford in Gilbert. Mary's gonna score touchdown. Slim to 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: the ground by Buddha Baker Like a torpedo. He came 5 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: flying into the backfield. The Rage is brought to you 6 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: by satan Ford in Gilbert. Are you Santanford State Farm? 7 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: Talk to an agent today at eight hundred State Farm, 8 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: And by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts visit Acy Cardinals dot Com, 9 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: Slash Podcasts, The Rods, Rising Guard, Gilpture, Rising Vision, Flurring 10 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: Rage taking over. Here's Paul KELVC. Get the popcorn ready, 11 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a show and Ron will flip. It 12 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: doesn't get any better than that, hors unleash the far. 13 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: Zero chance. There is zero chance here on the Big 14 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: Red Rage tonight that Ron Wolfley will run rough shot 15 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: and have the last word. Tonight. There is zero chance 16 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: that Wolf will cut off any of my brilliant takes. 17 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: Paulli piskin here this evening, just like there's zero chance 18 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: that Wolf will be allowed to go on some five 19 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: minutes soliloquy, waxing, poetic about Devonte Wyatt or maybe twelve 20 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 1: percent ALB zero chance or getting under center zero chance 21 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: that we're gonna fail, that we're gonna fail. Yes, I'm 22 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: calling my shot that we're gonna fail to put the 23 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: big into Big Red Rage tonight. Because our big time 24 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: guests none other than a seven time Pro Bowl receiver 25 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: by the name of AJ Green. Here on the Big 26 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert We are 27 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: Santan Ford, Paul Calvci here, Ron Wolfley there. You know what, 28 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: Paul cannot wait for that once again. And because Aj 29 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: Green and the ability, I know you had the opportunity 30 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: to talk to him a little bit earlier in the day. 31 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: But Aj Green, this is going to be a situation, 32 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: Paul where the Arizona Cardinals. It's interesting they love their 33 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: free agency from a year ago so much they're doubling 34 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: down on it once again. And to me, Paul, that 35 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 1: is an admission by them that they believe the ten 36 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: in two was real. Yeah. I mean they're saying it 37 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: with the check book, They're saying it with the roster moves. 38 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: They're saying that whatever was illen and ail in this 39 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: team over the last six weeks of the season when 40 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: they lost five of their final six, including the playoff 41 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: loss at the Rams. Is correctable? Is something we can 42 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: do something about. That's essentially what they're saying. You're right 43 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: when you hit zoom out and you look at the 44 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: big picture on the big red and it'll be interesting 45 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: because Aj Green, we had a chance, you know, at 46 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: length to discuss a lot of these issues. He talks 47 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: about Kyler Murray, he talks about his chemistry or lack 48 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: thereof with Kyler Murray. He's very forthright. He's much more 49 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: honest in this setting. We had more time to deal 50 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: with it than he did with the media via zoom 51 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: earlier in the week. So that's straight ahead. But I 52 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: mentioned the quote zero chance, and we mentioned Kyler Murray 53 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: because Steve Kim and Cliff Kingsbury met the media today. 54 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 1: As you know, Ron Wolf Lean, well, we'll just get 55 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: right to it. Ken Summers, longtime Cardinals reporter and local columnists, 56 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: was the one who asked the question of the Cardinals GM, 57 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: there's a lot of speculation out there in the possibility 58 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: of you guys trading Kyler you can do can you 59 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: rule that out? Zero chance? Do you believe it Rono. Yes, 60 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: you know what I do, Bully, I do because of 61 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: how definitive he said that. Now you know, once again 62 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: I understand things can change and do change down the road. 63 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, he said it so definitively, Paul, and with 64 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: no follow up whatsoever. I think that was it was 65 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: done on purpose by Steve Kim, and I think it 66 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: points to where the Arizona Ardinals are headed on this, 67 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: which means at some point in time after the draft, 68 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: probably not before, but after the draft, there's going to 69 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: be an extension of Kyler Murray because tis the season 70 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: for smoke screens. We know what this is all about. 71 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,799 Speaker 1: A lot of people correctly pointed out there were similar 72 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: comments made leading up to the twenty nineteen draft about 73 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen when Kyler Murray was a number one pick. 74 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: Now the circumstances are completely different this time around. Correct 75 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: A lot of obvious reasons we don't have to get into. 76 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: But and I'm with you, I do believe it. I mean, honestly, 77 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: what are the alternatives? What are the alternatives? If Kyler 78 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: Murray's in your quarterback, even if you get a Mondo 79 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: Draft Hall el Grande, Yeah, then what you're automatically back 80 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: in QB purgatory. You're right where you've been in between 81 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: Kurt Warner and Carson Palmer, and Carson Palmer and Kyler Murray. 82 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: You're looking for that next guy, and there's no guarantee 83 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: no matter how many picks you have, that you're gonna 84 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: find the right guy. So once again, paul I'll cotinue 85 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: to talk about the fact that the Cardinals, instead of 86 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: being aggressive in free agency, they decided to be aggressive 87 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: in pursuing their own guys and the possibility of winning 88 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: games with their own guys all over again, which tells 89 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: me they think they have something. To your point, Paulie, 90 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: they think they have something that is fixable, completely fixable 91 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: the way they've finished the last two seasons. And by 92 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 1: the way, Michael Biddwell, team owner, to Ken Summers as 93 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: well on the potential that there might be a Kyler 94 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 1: Murray trade, and we're quoting Michael Biddwell quote, Yeah, that's 95 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,799 Speaker 1: not happening. There's just too much outside noise of people 96 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: listen to. We understand that's just part of what goes 97 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: on these days with social media. It's just not the case. 98 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: And your point about the timeline and We've talked about 99 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: this for two three months now here on the Big 100 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: Red Rage, have we not how the other six quarterbacks 101 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: after year three who got their contract extensions, if you 102 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: go back, every one of them was in June, July, August, 103 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: or September, and Steve Kime he doubled down on that. 104 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: The way we've approached it is we have free agency, 105 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: we have the draft, and then you know, we'll take 106 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: a deep breath and sort of refocus. And that's the 107 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: same reason that every other player that's been a third 108 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: year quarterback has been done in the middle of the 109 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 1: summer to late summer, and it's just sort of the 110 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: way that the system works. But nothing has changed in 111 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: terms of him being our long term and short term quarterback. 112 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: Steve Kime did verify with the media that he has 113 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: spoken recently to Team Kyler about a contract. So, you know, 114 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: considering the comments made and just sort of the vibe 115 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: at today's press comments and then you take into account 116 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: Kyler's tweets and you wonder, Wolf if there has not 117 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: been some significant progress in forward momentum to getting that 118 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: deal done. Well, you know what you just said up 119 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: Ali right there. The reason why I think I'm going 120 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: to put this in the positive column in a big, 121 00:06:55,680 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: big way. It's because of kylermur restweets. I'm sorry, hey, listen, 122 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: nobody's ever going to be able to convince me the 123 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: social media thing wasn't a thing, right, Oh, it was 124 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: a thing. I'm just saying. He scrubbed it and suddenly, um, 125 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: you know what, there was an all caps letter that 126 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: was sent out as well. You know, I mean, listen, Um, 127 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: I don't think we're naive or or stupid here. So 128 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: once again, it was a thing, and Kyler Murray has 129 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: used it in the way that he used Twitter. I 130 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: absolutely loved because he was supporting him being in Arizona 131 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: Cardinal in twenty twenty two and going forward and being committed. 132 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: And there were basically three tweets today from Kyler Murray 133 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: and two in response. One late in the day was 134 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport and he tweeted out that quote from Steve 135 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: Kimes zero chance for trading Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray's response 136 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: via Twitter was one hundred as in one hundred percent, 137 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: as you know. And then then there was Kyler in 138 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: response to the Patrick Peterson podcast that featured Chase Edmonds 139 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: and in some shade throne by Pat pe not the 140 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: first time towards his former team. Kyler's response and I quote, 141 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: I want to win Super Bowls with the Cardinals. A 142 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: Z is home and tweet Kyler Murray. Paully. That was 143 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: intentional that much we do know, right, I mean, that 144 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: was an intentional act right there by Kyler Murray to 145 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: support his team. And again I'm going to put that 146 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: in the positive column and expect and make make me 147 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: think that a deal is going to get done, and 148 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: it's going to get done after the draft. And then 149 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: the third tweet was in response to Colin Cowherd, and 150 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: Cowherd was on this rant and there was a graphic 151 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: on his TV show that read and I quote Kyler 152 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: is harder to build a culture around. That's all it's said, right, 153 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: And then and then he was comparing Kyler doing Aaron 154 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: Rodgers and guys who do their own thing, and Kyler's 155 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: reply via Twitter was and I quote, run whatever narratives 156 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: y'all want to run, but questioning my work ethic. I'm 157 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,719 Speaker 1: not going for that. Stop playing with me, Colin. I 158 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: still rock with you, but come on and tweet Kyler Murray. Yeah, 159 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, just the fact he is 160 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: engaging at what is going on and being set out 161 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: there instead of the sound of silence, I think is 162 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 1: a positive, don't you, Bully? Absolutely? I mean the fact 163 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 1: that you know he's a the fact that he's actually 164 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: acknowledging that he's part of the Cardinal's future, which to 165 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: your point when he scrubbed the instagram right when there's 166 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: no tracer, barely a trace of the team he played for. 167 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: So now at least you have he's commenting basically and 168 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: having a future with the team, and we get it. 169 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: It's a whole part of the contract process, in the 170 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 1: back and forth and the negotiations, and there's a realization 171 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: I think on Kyler's part that he has a great 172 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: fit with the offense and the head coach, does he 173 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: not no doubt? And then the GM, right, I mean, 174 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: and this is me, this is Steve Kyme. Listen to 175 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: Steve Kiman what he had to say about having a 176 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback that was a decent GM when Carson Palmer 177 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: was our quarterback when he retired, I wasn't very good. 178 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: I am smart enough to know that Kyler Murray makes 179 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: me a better GM. So he you know again, we 180 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: took him with the first overall pick. We love him. 181 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: The guys continue to improve. He's made us a better 182 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: football team, so we were excited about his future. How 183 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: many times does Steve Kim tell us on this very 184 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: show that pre Kyler Murray, every single day he would 185 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 1: wake up and think to himself, how and where am 186 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: I getting a franchise quarterback? Yes Na, that's right, Bali, 187 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: I mean that is a problem right there. But to 188 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: his point, Steve Kim, after how many times has he 189 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: won the NFL Executive of the Year award twice? Paul 190 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, and it's laughable when you 191 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: talk about Steve Kim in the way that a lot 192 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: of people out there don't want Steve Kim to be 193 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: the general manager for the Arizona Cardinal. I'm sorry. You 194 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: know what, you built a team, a playoff team, a 195 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: playoff caliber team, not once but twice. And I realized 196 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: you could say, well that was over the course of 197 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 1: nine years and everything, Well, you know what, a lot 198 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 1: of times you're finding a quarterback that you're going to 199 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: with three four years, and Steve Kim found two different 200 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and built two different teams that actually went to 201 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: the playoffs. And by the undeniable yes, and by the way, 202 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: he doesn't that go for every single GM. I mean 203 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: Jason Light before Tom Brady, the Buccaneers are on a 204 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: twelve year run of no playoff appearances. What were the 205 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: Buccaneers gonna look like this year minus Tom Brady until 206 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: he unretired and came back, right, Yeah, I mean Light too, sure, 207 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: and he's not. Look at John Schneider up in Seattle. 208 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: Look at his last six or seven draft classes or 209 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: lack thereof, and then they got rid of Russell Wilson. 210 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: Good luck the last place Seahawks on that one. So okay, 211 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: if they're tracking and trending towards a contract extension, what 212 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: does that mean for Kyler Murray? Now that the offseason 213 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: activities began officially this week, Will Cliff Kingsbury was at 214 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: the press conference and he was asked that question. You know, 215 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: we understand it's voluntary at this point. Um, I do 216 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: expect him here at some point, but I think if 217 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: you any coach, we'd all want them here a lot 218 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 1: more than we get them. But that's part of the CBA, 219 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: and they're all professionals. In hand of their business. All right, 220 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: So this week, you know, well, if it's weight room 221 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: work and it's you know, some conditioning out on the field, 222 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: there's no actual football going on. But I will say 223 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: and and AJ Green, we ask AJ Green about it 224 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: coming up here in a matter of moments on the 225 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert that 226 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: you know, if one of the keys of this offense 227 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 1: is getting the receivers on the same page with the 228 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: quarterback and developing greater chemistry in the passing game and 229 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: that connection and everyone being in sync, and especially when 230 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: the game's on the line, you know what. To me, 231 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: these off season activities are important when it comes to football. Yeah, 232 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: and I don't I don't care if it's on air. 233 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: I don't care if it's seven on seven. I don't 234 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: care if it's just the offense before they can even 235 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 1: go against the defense, Kyler throwing a receiver who's got 236 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: to be in the right spot at the right time 237 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: and get that precision in the passing game that matters. Yeah, 238 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: I know you're absolutely right about that, Paulie, But you know, 239 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: can I just also throw in the fact that I 240 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: think even strength and conditioning matters I do. I'm sorry, Listen, 241 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: this is when you get a great opportunity to work 242 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 1: out with your teammate, Paul. You get a great opportunity 243 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: to get to know relationally your teammate better than you 244 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: will when you actually go into the regular season. And 245 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: the reason being, of course, the regular season, Paul, there's 246 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: so much structure, there's so much order, there's so much stress. 247 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: It's a get to now do everything now, check ABCD 248 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: all the boxes. Now. You're more split up than you 249 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: are in the off season. Of course, where you don't, 250 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: you don't have this rigid schedule all day. Look, Polly, 251 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: I used to love it. I used to love going 252 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: in and working out with my brothers, whether it was 253 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: running out on the field, Paul, whether it was in 254 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: the weight room thrown around. So I don't want to 255 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: say that's not important, because I think that's where you 256 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: really build a lot of relationships as well. But look 257 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: across the NFL, man, there's not a lot of guys 258 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: that are showing up for strength and conditioning, and hey, 259 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: push each other, right, I mean, guys push each other. 260 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: And you have the NFL Strength Coach of the Year 261 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: and Buddy Morris, So what's not to like? Right? Cut 262 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: the sleeves off now, just like the Draft Weekend Country 263 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 1: Concert presented by Zek featuring Ryan Hurd Lanco Callista Clark. 264 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: It is Saturday, April thirtieth, next weekend, Next Saturday, I'm 265 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: the Great Lawn at State Farm Stadium. For tickets and information, 266 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: go to Sportsman's Park AZ dot com at Sportsman's Park 267 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: az dot com. A J. Green is next, and we 268 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: get into some of these questions about the offense and 269 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: the quarterback in chemistry, The Big Red Rage presented by 270 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: Santan four in Gilbert. Let's start that off as Bruce 271 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: arians at, I'm talking about that at Murray and shotgun 272 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: snapped to Kyler at the town A little short set. 273 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: So I did that short set a little bit now, 274 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: throwing deep fireside and is pulled in into five yard 275 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: All right, hold on, I gotta grab myself a crown 276 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: row here. I have a little sippet debate, little sipp 277 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: at debate detas new NIPPERU finished the college, Jack Nicholson, 278 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: A Jay Green just too strong, too big, too athletic. 279 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: To Tracy Morgan, I want a great read by Kyler 280 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: Murray to throw the ball, Say it as Morgan Freeman, 281 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: What a great read by Kyler Murray to throw the ball. 282 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: You've got a scarecrow on a stick. Put it out there, 283 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: let him go get it. That's exactly what A J. 284 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: Green did. Can you do it as Liam Neeson? Want 285 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: a great read by Kyler Murray? To throw the ball. 286 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: You've got a scarecrow on a stick. Put it out there, 287 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: let him go get it. That's exactly what A J. 288 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: Green did. The unmistakable Frank Caliendo the mind the voices 289 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: of only one Frank Callie ido on the passpot recently 290 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: as he recreated in the different voices the AJ Green 291 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: forty one yard touchdown catch against the La Rams week four, 292 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: and now we have the real AJ Green in studio 293 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: here and the big red rage. Your reaction just to 294 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: hearing all the voices recreate that call man, he's very talented. 295 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: He's sounded just like them. Never heard anything that good 296 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: that he's can do. Each person like that so well. 297 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: So as he's very talented guy, what's all good for 298 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: you right now? Wires on him? Why year two with 299 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: the Cardinals? I think if you look at my year 300 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: last year, you know I had a productive year, and 301 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: I feel like my second year was going to be 302 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: even more productive. You know, had other offers in different 303 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: places in one to me, but I made a decision 304 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: that what fits me well. I didn't not divedn't have 305 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: to start over. I know what the coaches like, I 306 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: know the culture here, I know what they envisioned me 307 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: going to be coming into this year like I was 308 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: last year. So for me, it just not all about 309 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: the money. It's about still building my legacy. And I 310 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: think it was the best part for me. And there's 311 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: room to grow, isn't there. I mean I need two 312 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: hands to count how many times last year Cliff Kingsbury 313 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: told us, man, we need to get the ball to 314 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: number eighteen more. Aj Green needs to get more targets. 315 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: So do you see that your role evolve being I 316 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: think so. I think from last year even you know 317 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 1: a lot of people didn't expect me to do that 318 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: well in this offense. I think being another year with 319 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: Cliff and Kyler and just getting that relationship more because 320 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: I fell out. Like in the end, we tailed off 321 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 1: a little bit once Kawe got hurt and coming back 322 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: things were a little off, and then de Hop got hurt. 323 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: So I hope in this year we can jail throughout 324 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: the whole season. How much did the Cardinals offense leave 325 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: out there in the last two months. I think we 326 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: left a lot, you know, just looking back, even going 327 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: back and this reflecting on the season and watching some 328 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: of the games that we missed. You know, me personally, 329 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: I didn't finish this season where I wanted to finish, 330 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: and I got to be better on that. How do 331 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: you diagnose it? I mean, until you can correct a problem, 332 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: you got to identify it, right. I think it's just 333 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: a lot of communication with us, you know, being this 334 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: lead for so long. These NFL seasons is up and down, 335 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: and we started so hot. I think the leadership of 336 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 1: our team, you know, tailed off a little bit. I 337 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: think we just had to mess ups, you know, injury 338 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: whell that's not an excuse. But I think next year now, 339 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: I mean this year is coming up, we just gotta 340 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: be more honing on our details. What does d Hop 341 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: do for you and what do you do for d Hop? 342 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: I think d Hop, you know, he demand's attention and 343 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: I think that's where helps everybody else this offense jail 344 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: when he's going, you know, last year we had see 345 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: Kirk and I and then d hop defense couldn't really 346 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: key on one person. And when that happened, See Kirk 347 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: had a good game while I have a good game. 348 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: So having him out there just changed the whole dynamic 349 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: of the game. The fact you're both South Carolina guys too, 350 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: do you do you have an is that next level 351 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: in terms of connection and the where you guys just 352 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: sort of interact and get along. I think this is 353 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: our personality. We both want to win. We don't care 354 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: about the balls. We've already been that guy catching a 355 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: lot of balls. We just want to win and try 356 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: to get a ring. I think that's what helps us 357 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: out in that room when we had a great room. 358 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: Wanted a part of the best rooms I've been a 359 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: part of last year when we had those guys, man, 360 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: And I'm excited to get back with you know, Sean, 361 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: Jay and Claire and get this thing rolling. And I 362 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: know you guys we're on board with aj Green here 363 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: on the big Red Rage. I mean, you're so competitive. 364 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: You guys are perfectionists. You're demanding yourselves. How about you 365 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: and your game? Where would you like to get better? 366 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: You mentioned three times you led the team and catches 367 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: five times and receiving yards. You tied with a See 368 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: Kirk for most twenty five yard catches, you know, et cetera. 369 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of great but if you're 370 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: going to strive to improve upon last year, where and 371 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: how for you? For me, it's just more of my 372 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: attention to details, just being on Kiwa Kyla at all times, 373 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: communicating with him, and I think that's for me, that's 374 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: what I got to do better. It's communicating one k one, 375 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: just not let it be somebody else, communicain what I'm 376 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: saying to him. It's being me face to face to 377 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: him and telling me what he's seeing, what I need 378 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: to do, you know, just things like that, because if 379 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: you listen to fans a lot of times, to say, man, 380 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: it just seemed at times that Kyler and AJ weren't 381 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: quite on the same page. Fair unfair, that's fair. That's 382 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: one hundred percent fair. And I felt the same way. 383 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: So that's what me got to be accountable, going to 384 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: him and telling what I see and what he needs 385 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: me to do better. I can take it like, AJ, 386 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 1: you need to run this rod at this deep. You 387 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: need to do this. You know it's no big I'm 388 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: not I'm not bigger than the team. Man. I need 389 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: him to communicate with me and I'll do the same. 390 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: Where do you think in terms of Kyler in his 391 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: upside and it just as a quarterback, What do you 392 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: see in the future for him? Man? He's an MPP 393 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 1: caliber guy. Man. I think the jury threw him off 394 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 1: a little bit. But if you look at the first 395 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: couple of games, man, he's playing at the AMPVG level. 396 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: And for me, it just got to continue helping him, 397 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: bringing him along. And I mean, he's not a guy 398 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: that's gonna be in your face, but we got to 399 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: make him be in his face because this is his 400 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,719 Speaker 1: team and we go as he go. What does it 401 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: mean for receiver when he's extending plays. I forget which 402 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator was. They showed video like he extended to 403 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: play thirteen seconds and then completed a pass. But what 404 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: does it mean for you guys in the receiver room. Oh? Man, 405 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: it's another part of the offense. There's another part of 406 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: the offense that a lot of defense is not. You 407 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: can't account for. You see a guy just running around 408 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: making guys miss, and then all the ross all broke off, 409 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: so as his back a football and I had to 410 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 1: get used to that. I wasn't used to that. You know, 411 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 1: I played with Andy Dotan ten years, so he was 412 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: just on the time, but playing with k one place 413 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:15,719 Speaker 1: never did so I gotta stay alive. AJ Green our 414 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: guest on the Big Red Rage It's All About You, 415 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: presented by Santan Ford. James Connor. Your reaction when the 416 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: Cardinals resigned James Connery. You're nodding right now, aren't you? Yeah? 417 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: Why why is that? What does he do for this offense? 418 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: And just the vibe on the sideline. I've been seeing 419 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: j C since Pittsburgh day, so I understand what he 420 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: could do. But watching him, his energy he brings to 421 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: the locker room is unmatched. He's the same guy every day. 422 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: And I'm so happy that he signed back here. Man. 423 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: He deserves it. Man, he had an unbelievable season. If 424 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: you see that guy work like he need more money. 425 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: He need way more money. He need more money in that, 426 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: but just to have him back, and he made him 427 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: to him the pro bow, his whole story. You're rutheful 428 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: guys like that, and James is unbelievable guy. Physicality, his mentality. 429 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: You bring him Max Williams back right, he had a 430 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: zach Ertz. I mean, is this offense trending in a 431 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: certain direction, because when you guys were at your best, 432 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: you were a physical offense, weren't you. Yes, And I 433 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: think people didn't understand how physical we were if they 434 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: look at us and being the mar finess. But we 435 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: put on tape that we can be physical when we 436 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: need to. So we got to continue this next year, 437 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: and I'm glad we got got most out pieces back 438 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: so we can make a run out of this thing again, 439 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: including Rondale Moore going into year two. Seawan Jefferson, your 440 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: receivers coach, sat in that very chair, and he talked 441 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: about Rondale Moore and what's in store for him in 442 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: year two. What do you see? Because he talked about 443 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: getting the ball to him down field, more, expanding the 444 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: route tree, and he talked about how capable Rondale Moore is. Oh, 445 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: he's very capable. I think people get lost in what 446 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: he did last year and how he was used. But 447 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 1: if you go look at his college tape, the guy 448 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: has great hands, great routes, great run, apt to to catch. 449 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: So I feel like he's gonna make a huge leap 450 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: from last year to this year. It's gonna be It's 451 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: gonna be special as a guy that works his butt 452 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 1: off as well. A lot of the mock drafts have 453 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: the Cardinals going receiver in round one, if not then 454 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: in round two when a young receiver comes in, what 455 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: do you look for? I mean, guys like me, I 456 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: can see the measurables, you know, maybe some of the production. 457 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: What do you look for when you see your young receiver? 458 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: I think this that competitiveness. You know, you think you 459 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: made it. My mentality was always there that you got 460 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: to revenge yourself. And I think when you see young 461 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 1: guys like that, when you see Rondelle and how he 462 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: approached stuff last year, that's what I'm looking for. That's 463 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: what I'm looking for. A guy that's put his head down, 464 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 1: don't talk that much, just go to work every day. 465 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: So you had other offers, huh, you had other offers 466 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 1: out you thought about it, I agent, and it was 467 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: you know, you know how left free agency healing works. 468 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: I'm at a place in my career where I'm comfortable. 469 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 1: I'm comfortable and I can take my time. I have 470 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: the ability to take my time. But I felt like 471 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: this was the right place from him. And I'll tell you, 472 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: we're all grateful that the place for you is Arizona. 473 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 1: So congratulations on that. Thank you. We look forward this 474 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: year kJ Green on a Big Red Rage. We continue 475 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: right after this corner number. Let go and Jeff Clatney 476 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: like a shot shot, see him down, get him to me. 477 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: It's a freebee. We got an extra first round pick, 478 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: you know, basically in free agency. Incredibly quick footed, highly 479 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: instinctive player. It's a reason again he went in the 480 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: first round and we're getting a you know, a starter 481 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: in our building with and we didn't you know, waste 482 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 1: any draft capital basically, so um, he helps us out. 483 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: Immediately excited to have him, and he's gonna help big 484 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: time again. I'll take him that next up. Director of 485 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: Player Personnel, Drew Grigson. Last week here on the Big 486 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert, we are 487 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: santan Ford and that was the word that stood out 488 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: about Jeff Gladney. Starter. I mean, we heard Paul Allen 489 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: and the Vikings radio you heard him all miked up. 490 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: Jeff Gladney is rookie year he sat out last year, 491 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: so this will be year number three the former first 492 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: round pick. You're a little bit of a scouter, report Putt. 493 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: When you hear Drew Grigson use the word starter, you 494 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: realize that they're counting on Jeff Gladney to make an 495 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: impact immediately. Ron Wilton, Yeah, now you're right about that, Paully, 496 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: And the other thing you've got to remember, of course, 497 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: for the most part, I think most teams and most 498 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,479 Speaker 1: defensive coordinators and general managers think you got to have 499 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: three starters at the corner position because how much Polly 500 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: that you see teams going with eleven personnel, one back, 501 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: one tight end, three wide receivers, And because of that, 502 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: they pretty much feel like that nickel corner is a 503 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: starter as well, and anytime they have the ability to 504 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: move Byron Murphy around. Right, So let's say Gladney can 505 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: in these only five ten you know they say, okay, 506 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,120 Speaker 1: plays bigger. He does he have the ability to match 507 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: up against outside guys. But if he is that guys, 508 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: we know Vans Joseph likes Byron Murphy to use him 509 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 1: quite often and certain matchups inside, does he not? Yeah, 510 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: there's no doubt Paula. I don't consider a corner that 511 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: is five ten to be small. I'm sorry, I don't. 512 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: And obviously there are teams out there that feel exactly 513 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: the same way, because they draft a lot of guys 514 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: who are five ten five eleven six foot tall right 515 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 1: in that range. In terms of playing corner, I don't 516 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: think he's necessarily small for the position. I think if 517 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: you want to start talking about being under five ten, 518 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: I get that, But I can't tell you how many 519 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 1: guys I've seen, how many corners I've seen that are 520 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: five ten, five ten and a half and almost two 521 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 1: hundred pounds one hundred ninety five pounds who are stocky 522 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: and play the position just fine. Yeah, well, all right, 523 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: speaking of positions, the question is Steve Khme at his 524 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: annual draft press conference pre draft presser, was all right, 525 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: positions of need, what do you think do the GM 526 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: Steve Kahn would acknowledge that, you know, edge rusher, wide receiver, corner, 527 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: you know, any of those positions that are you know, 528 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 1: they're hard to find. I mean, listen, when guys get 529 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 1: the free agency and they get paid the kind of 530 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: money they get, you know you're looking at left tackles, corners, 531 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: you know, guys that are really hard to find. Obviously quarterbacks. 532 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: Now receivers are playing into that a little bit. Obviously, 533 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: you know when you see some of the salaries that 534 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: these guys are getting into the receiver position. If you 535 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: can get a number one receiver, there's no reason not 536 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 1: to take one, and there's no doubt about that. I 537 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: think the status there's eight receivers now making eighteen million 538 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: or more per season in the NFL. It is absolutely rocketed. 539 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: We know what Christian Kirk has gone to the salary 540 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: structure for NFL receivers around the league. But when I 541 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: hear him site positions Wolf, because we know how low 542 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,239 Speaker 1: the GMS are to actually name names and positions. So 543 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: when he says edge rusher, wide receiver in corner, you 544 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: know what my first thought was sitting there at that 545 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 1: press conference today. That means that means zeros on our 546 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: Cardinals in Round one are going to draft either O 547 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: line or D line. That's what that means. That was 548 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: my title. It's so funny you say that, Polly, because honestly, 549 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: it's that time of year right now, is that not? 550 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 1: It is that time of year where you can't believe 551 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: anything that a general manager actually says in front of 552 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: a microphone. Why in the world would a GM ever 553 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: tip off anybody, in particular other gms across the league 554 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: as to how he might go or how he might 555 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: unfold in the draft. It's not going to happen. Why 556 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: would anybody do that? They wouldn't you know? In mind 557 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: what thirty years now doing this covering an NFL team. 558 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: The only person I've seen get up there before the 559 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: draft in front of him, Mike can actually tell the truth. 560 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: It's Bruce Arius know it, Yes, it's BA. And what 561 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: did he say after the draft? He said, Well, everybody 562 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: thinks I'm lying exactly, so I guess the reverse engineer 563 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: and I use some reverse psychology and I told y'all 564 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: where we were going, and nobody believe me. Anyway, That's 565 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: exactly right. At this point in time, You've got to 566 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: consider this source, don't you be a Yeah? So, Polly, 567 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: I would you agree with Steve Kim in regard to 568 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: positions of need? Right there he mentions the edge, of course, 569 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: and slarner and wide receiver. Yeah, I think those are 570 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: positions of need. And I also will throw in defensive tackle, 571 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: especially when a guy that might be a little freaky, 572 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: maybe a Jordan Davis, there, maybe a DeVante. Why at, Paul, 573 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: you know either one of those guys. Honestly, you've got 574 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: a lot invested in Isaiah Simmons, do you not, Paul, 575 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: You've got a lot invested in Zaven Collins. Do you 576 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: double down right with Savan Collins the next year? Yes? 577 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: I mean you got to protect these guys and try 578 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: to keep them clean. Why. Because they can run. It's 579 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: one of the things that put them in the first round, 580 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: one of the reasons why the Cardinals loved him. They 581 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: can run, they can cover, they can run with tight 582 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: ends down the seam, either one of them. They can 583 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: run with running backs, they can You've got to protect 584 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: those guys and let them run and let him make tackles. 585 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: I'll tell you if you want to believe anything about 586 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: the mock drafts, and okay, I don't say that lightly, 587 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: but there is one trend in all these mock drafts 588 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: that Baltimore supposedly allegedly cannot stay away from Jordan Davis. 589 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: That Jordan Davis is just a Baltimore Raven in the making. 590 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: And so if they go with Jordan Davis. Wolf you 591 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: might get your wish, you might get Davante Wyatt, he 592 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: might fall to number twenty three and the Arizona Cardinals. 593 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: But if Steve Kine was in the trust tree and 594 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: he had the lie detector on and he had to 595 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: answer that question honestly, truthfully, the top three positions of 596 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: need would be edge, edge, and edge. Because there's only 597 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: one position group on this team right now, Ron wolf 598 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: Lee where you can't go into week one and say, 599 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: all right, we have legitimate starters. You can't say that 600 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: at Edge you have Marcus Golden and a couple of backups. 601 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: You really don't have another starting, quality caliber Edge, and 602 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: that's something that's gonna have to be addressed. Whether it's 603 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: a free agency. Yeah, you know what, Paulie, You're right 604 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: about that. I think they could get an edge guy. 605 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: This draft is so deep if you listen to some 606 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: of the experts, paul you know me. I'm not one 607 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: of those draft expert guys. I really am not. And 608 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: one of the reasons why is because a rookie you 609 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: got to prove it to me. I can't tell you 610 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: how many rookies I've seen. Oh my goodness, this guy 611 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: is gonna be a pro bowler. This guy is gonna 612 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: change the dynamic of our defense. He's gonna change our offense. 613 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: He's going to go. He's gonna be at all pro. 614 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: I can't tell you how many times I've heard this 615 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: about rookies, and yet they just couldn't play Paul, and 616 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: that was a problem right there. So I don't put 617 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: a ton of stock into it. I don't. But having 618 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: said that, Paul, this draft is supposedly very very deep 619 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: on the edge. Maybe there's a guy there at fifty five, Paul, 620 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: that you're gonna be able to get at fifty five 621 00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: who could be a difference maker. I mean some of 622 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: those names, Nick Benito Oklahoma, Arnold Eba Katie from Penn State, 623 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: Boye Mothe from Minnesota, Josh Pascal Kentucky. Maybe Drake Jackson 624 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: USC didn't have a great workout so you know, or 625 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: or maybe the Cardinals trade up if one of those 626 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: elite pass rusher guys is within range. Because Steve Kim 627 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: was asked about whether he's placed or received any calls 628 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: on the trade front, Well, I've had some calls, you know, 629 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: guys that just want to let me know that Hey, 630 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: we're willing to move around. And then I've done the 631 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: same you know, guys that you generally talked to prior 632 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,719 Speaker 1: to the draft, and just let them know we're up 633 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: in for business. Well you like. For example, for example, 634 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: if you're thinking receiver, receiver, receiver, they're at twenty three, 635 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: and then look at four the five teams in front 636 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: of you. Those teams all supposedly our targeting receiver as well. 637 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: The Eagles, the Saints, the Packers, the Patriots all have 638 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: a serious dire need for receivers. So when he says, oh, 639 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: you know what, I've had some conversations maybe moving up 640 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: four or five spots. To me, that is directly in 641 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: consideration of those teams in front of him all may 642 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: take receiver and leave the Cardinals holding the bag. Yeah, Polli, 643 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: And once again, I don't know about you, but I've 644 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: heard from some of the draft experts that there could 645 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: be as many as seven wide receivers taken in the 646 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: first round. And if that in fact is the case, yeah, 647 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: maybe you do want to move up because you really 648 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: love somebody or you covet somebody, but there's supposedly a 649 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: drop off at that position after seven or eight receivers, 650 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: you're supposed to be a considerable drop off, and maybe 651 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons why you would move up, Paul. 652 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe. I mean, you know, it's all part of 653 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: why the NFL Draft is so highly rated when it 654 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,959 Speaker 1: comes to the TV ratings, right, I mean, it's just 655 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: it's reality TV sports, it's the original reality TV. And 656 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: Steve Kim talked about Draft day and the potential for 657 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: a big deal. It's a fast moving process. Probably the 658 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: one thing in the draft that creates the most excitement 659 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: is whenever those trade conversations start, because the level of 660 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: excitement in the room sort of rises. But more than anything, 661 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: whether you agree with the trade chart or the points, 662 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: more than anything, to me, it's an instinctive thing. You 663 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: got to feel good about what you're doing, and as 664 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: long as you trust, you got I think you're being 665 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: a good position So well, which position group would you 666 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: feel more comfortable target in round two? Meaning would you 667 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: go edge in round one or receiver in round two 668 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,720 Speaker 1: or vice versa? Or are you thinking a different position 669 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: group altogether? Probably? I'm just I mean, honestly, right now, everybody, 670 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 1: everybody that I've talked to, everybody that I've read everybody 671 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 1: that I truly respect about this. They talk about how 672 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 1: deep the edge is the edge, And if you're really 673 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 1: serious about that, hey, listen, maybe you could get a 674 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: wide receiver bully at number twenty three. Maybe you could 675 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: get one of those wide receivers at number twenty three 676 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: and still get an edge guy at number fifty five. 677 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 1: That to me, how do you see it? Paul? Yeah, 678 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: you know, Steve Coome has never drafted a receiver in 679 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: round one, and the Cardinal's recent track record with a 680 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 1: lot of receivers in the draft not robust, to be sure. 681 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: And honestly, I'm the guy who the last three years said, 682 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: check the hit rate for the position group that fare 683 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: the worst in round one, and it's been receiver. Yeah, 684 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 1: but I think this is the exception to your point. 685 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: Seven receivers could go on round one and that would 686 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: match the all time record, which by the way, was 687 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,720 Speaker 1: two thousand and four when Larry Fitzgerald was the first 688 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: receiver off the board in number three. Overall, I get it. 689 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: And after we's all witnessed what happened to the Cardinals 690 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: offense minus d Hop last year, Yeah, that sort of 691 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 1: reinforces the need for this team. Yeah, you know what, 692 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: It's so interesting, though, what do you do? Do you 693 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: go get a guy like a Jamison Williams? Do you 694 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: go get that guy who can change the dynamic of 695 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: a defense because he can run by so many guys? 696 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,879 Speaker 1: Do you try to find a run by guy even 697 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 1: though Jamison Williams. Don't get sidetracked with the fact that 698 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: he might not he might not be able to play 699 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,760 Speaker 1: until like November. But I'm talking about a speed guy. 700 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,760 Speaker 1: Maybe you are you going to draft a speed guy, Paul, 701 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 1: or are you gonna draft a guy that like a 702 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:15,240 Speaker 1: Drake London from usc that could totally make a difference 703 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: a great I think he's a bigger version of d Hop. 704 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: I mean he catches so many contested balls, Paul, His 705 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,919 Speaker 1: hands are huge. I think Drake London is a guy 706 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 1: that man, if he were there at number twenty three, well, 707 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 1: I don't know. You gotta start, Drooland, don't you. Are 708 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: you concerned though, that Drake London won't run the forty 709 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: because you know a lot of comparisons to Mike Evans, 710 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,879 Speaker 1: But Mike Evans went out there and ran a four 711 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: or five something at his size. Yeah, and I think 712 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: most people think he'd run a four or five Paul, 713 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: he'd run a four or five five Drake London, Okay, 714 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: I just get a little word that at his size, 715 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: will he be able to get separation? And I know 716 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,439 Speaker 1: how strong he is, you know, and contested catches, Oh yeah, 717 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,840 Speaker 1: you know, play strength. I can get it. And Trason 718 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 1: sighted that as well. It's kind of like d Hop 719 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: I mean, d Hop is not a run by guy. 720 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: He just isn't. How many contested passes do you see 721 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins patch all the time? And Drake London just 722 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 1: like that. To address your original question, what sort of 723 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: receiver would you go out? You know a lot of 724 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 1: receiver coaches and offensive coordinators want a receiver room that 725 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: looks like a basketball team. You want one of every 726 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 1: sort of position. Right. You want the smaller, quick guy 727 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 1: in the slot, and you want the big guy on 728 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 1: the outside that would be your five, right, I mean 729 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: you want the different size guys. So that being the case, 730 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: you can give me Treylon Burks and hashtag who wants 731 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: something and we're just going I mean absolutely And by 732 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: the way, for more on everything related to the draft, 733 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: you got to hit up the Dave Pash Podcast. This 734 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: week's guest about NFL Network Draft analyst Extraordinary Daniel Jeremiah 735 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts and you can follow me 736 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 1: a Twitter at pashpod. Will continue to talk about the Cardinals, 737 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: recap what AJ Green had to say, and see flight 738 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: Plan next on the Big Red Rage. You got to 739 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: play your best football at the most important times of 740 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,320 Speaker 1: the year, and I obviously don't think that we did that. 741 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 1: I hope it's motivation for every single guy on the 742 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,399 Speaker 1: team to do everything in their power to make sure 743 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: that we're not in a situation like that again the 744 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 1: back half of the season and then specifically what happened 745 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. So if you can't look at that 746 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 1: game and you can't walk out of that stadium feeling 747 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 1: motivation and wanting to work harder and wanting to be 748 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 1: better and wanting to do everything that you can, probably 749 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: in the wrong business. J J. Water earlier this week 750 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: and what Bye had asked him, I just said, was 751 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 1: there a lesson learned from the way last season ended? 752 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: It is? So what that was his response, which just 753 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: the look on his face, the manner in which he 754 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 1: delivered that, you can sense that it's still raw with 755 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 1: a lot of guys the way last season ended, losing 756 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 1: five of your final six. You heard what Aj Green 757 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: said earlier in this edition of The Big Red Rage 758 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 1: presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. I asked him, how 759 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 1: much do you think the offense left out there at 760 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 1: the end of last season? He said a lot, he said. 761 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 1: I gotta be better, he said, I said, why do 762 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 1: you diagnose the problem? And Aj Green was pretty fourth right. 763 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: He said, quote, you know, the leadership of the team 764 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: tailed awful little bit. We got to hone in on 765 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 1: the details. Yeah, so you're just hopeful that they tried 766 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: to figure out that they have successfully figured out and 767 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,320 Speaker 1: deciphered what went wrong at the end of the season 768 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,399 Speaker 1: for a second straight season, and if they have. Going 769 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 1: full circle here, it gets back to your point. Wolf. 770 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: Now you see the rhyme and reason why they're bringing 771 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 1: back the core players. Yeah, no doubt about it. Paully. 772 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,360 Speaker 1: You know, once again, it's so important for people that 773 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 1: are listening right now to understand the mentality of a 774 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 1: football player is not that of a front runner poem. 775 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:56,320 Speaker 1: It's not. It's a guy that knows how to finish 776 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: above all else, a guy that knows how to finish. 777 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: A I that knows the task ad hand is never 778 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 1: good unless you finish and finish strong, Polly. I can't 779 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,839 Speaker 1: tell you how many coaches will scream out, You'll hear 780 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 1: it on the field right all the time, finish, finish 781 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 1: right there screaming finish. Why they're trying to get that 782 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: into the head of some player out there on the field, 783 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: whatever it may be, to finish strong Polly is a player. 784 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 1: You're looking to do that individually, and you're looking to 785 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 1: do that collectively. And that's why the look on JJ 786 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 1: Watt's face when you ask him that question, that's why 787 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: it drooped. I'm sure because there's nothing worse for an individual, 788 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,359 Speaker 1: for a football player, and for a football team than 789 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 1: not being able to finish Andy her guys take accountability. 790 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 1: AJ Greenden today in that interview, right you know, asked him, 791 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 1: was it fair to say you weren't always on the 792 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: same page with Kyler? Murray said absolutely fair. He said 793 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 1: I felt the same way. He said, I need to 794 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: go to him more often. I need to communicate with 795 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 1: him more. He's not a guy who's going to get 796 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 1: in your faces off, and I need to get in 797 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 1: his face and make him talk to me, you know, 798 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 1: make him tell me how I can be better. So 799 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,759 Speaker 1: it's interesting if that's part of the plan and then 800 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,360 Speaker 1: you hit zoom out and Michael Bidwell. This week, it 801 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 1: was just released season five, episode one of Cardinals Flight Plan. 802 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 1: This is all access behind the scenes available now in 803 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: the Cardinal's YouTube channel YouTube dot com. Slash Azy Cardinals 804 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,320 Speaker 1: and the team owner talking about the strategy in free agency. 805 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 1: If you look at the last five seasons, about two 806 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: thirds of the free agents that went to a different 807 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,280 Speaker 1: team and were paid more than ten million dollars played 808 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,280 Speaker 1: less than seventy five percent playtime. Many were not starters, 809 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 1: most of them didn't go to the Pro Bowl. Just 810 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,280 Speaker 1: because you spend a lot of money in free agency 811 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you get the greatest players out there. And frankly, 812 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 1: when I look back at Steve's success, Steve has had 813 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,760 Speaker 1: great success signing players that people have sort of forgotten 814 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 1: about a little bit after the draft. There are a 815 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 1: lot of great players out there. Being aggressive also means 816 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 1: being patient and taking the risk that great players are 817 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: going to be out there and having the confidence we'll 818 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 1: be able to sign them at the right time. Cardinal's 819 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 1: flight plan. Michael Bidwell and Steve Kime said it today. Well, 820 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 1: if he said the disadvantage and free agency is you 821 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 1: don't know the person. You can see the player on film, 822 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 1: you don't know the person. It's not like the draft 823 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 1: where you go to the combine you can interview him, 824 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 1: you can have one of these thirty visits. You know, 825 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 1: it's not the same that when free agency opens, you 826 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 1: don't have that ability to get to know the person. 827 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 1: And the immediate guy you think of most recently was 828 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,839 Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips and how that did not work. No, you're 829 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 1: right about that, Polly. You know, once again, I'm sorry, 830 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:43,840 Speaker 1: but the Cardinals were really aggressive last year in free agency. 831 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 1: We know that last off season, and this year not 832 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:52,240 Speaker 1: so much according to other people. But again I think Polly, 833 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 1: that is by design. I think they looked at the 834 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 1: fact they were ten intwo and what made him ten intwo. 835 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,720 Speaker 1: I go back to the five games that were played 836 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 1: with Max Williams, with Max Williams as a tight end, 837 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,319 Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, you're gonna bring zach 838 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: Ertz into that as well, Paullie. You put Max Williams 839 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,760 Speaker 1: and zach Ertz on the field in rundown situation first 840 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,880 Speaker 1: and ten second and one to six. There's gonna be 841 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 1: problems with James Connor as you're running back, and DeAndre Hopkins, 842 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,879 Speaker 1: and who knows on the other side. Maybe it's Rondel Moore, 843 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,799 Speaker 1: maybe it's Aj Green, maybe it's somebody else they go 844 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:37,839 Speaker 1: out and get. But that could be real problems. It's undeniable. 845 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 1: The Arizona Cardinals were seven and ozho and they were 846 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 1: ten and two Paul and right now this free agent 847 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 1: period so far, Steve Kim and the Arizona Cardinals said 848 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 1: that was real, and we're gonna go out and try 849 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 1: to replicate it again. And you know, James Connor was 850 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 1: banged up at the end. I think you only played 851 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 1: two full games, was zach Ertz. So you get those 852 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 1: two together. You had Max Williams And for example, you 853 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 1: go through the draft and all of a sudden, or 854 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 1: maybe right before the draft, the Cardinals signed a veteran 855 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,759 Speaker 1: edge rusher. Maybe they get a Jadeveon Clowney, maybe they 856 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,279 Speaker 1: get a Carlos Dunlap of Melvin ingram On a one 857 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 1: year deal. Sting that John Abraham Twight Freeney type thing, 858 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 1: and that that does change the outlook of what they've 859 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 1: done in free agency to a significant degree, does it not? Well, 860 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 1: it does, especially when you look at the fact that 861 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 1: the Cardinals were number five in sacks per attempt the 862 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 1: year Chandler Jones didn't play but five games. He had 863 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 1: one sack in those five games, and the Cardinals overall 864 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 1: there were number five in sacks per a time because 865 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 1: of scheme. By the way, the NFL schedule came out today. 866 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 1: The NFL schedule, the full schedule come out Thursday, May twelfth, 867 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: five o'clock hard time. 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