1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Hell, I need somebody, not just anybody. 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 2: You know, I need some lawn. Ron Ananian, I don't 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 2: know anything about the problem of this engine. 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 3: Right, the trams be red, trans should be red. However, 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 3: you know, don't judge it by color because the vehicle 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 3: is nine years old, the car Doctor, you know what, 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 3: I've been working on my abbs. See, I've got a 8 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 3: six pack now, so we all have a six pack inside. 9 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 4: It just takes a while drink. 10 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 5: So do why because you know I need it when 11 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 5: I need to do the show. 12 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 4: Right, you're drinking, I understand. 13 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: Welcome to the radio home of Ron Anian, the Car Doctor. 14 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 2: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the 15 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 2: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 16 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 2: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 17 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: the phone and call in. The garage doors are open. 18 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 3: But I am here to take your call at eighty 19 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 3: five five five ninety nine hundred and now he. 20 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: Running. 21 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 3: We had a twenty twelve Chevy Equinox this weekend the shop. 22 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 3: And you know, it's just sometimes the repairs are nonsensical 23 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 3: in a sense of because you're working on. 24 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 4: It and you're going, why am I doing this? 25 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 3: It shouldn't be bad. It's not supposed to break. The 26 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 3: customer complaint was a fuel smell, and we looked at 27 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 3: it and sure enough, yeah, the fuel line was leaking. 28 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 3: The stainless steel fuel line was leaking. Now, isn't the 29 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 3: idea of stainless steel so that it won't corrode, it 30 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 3: won't rot, it won't leak. Isn't that why we go 31 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 3: through the expense of stainless in the first place. But 32 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 3: then is it really stainless steel? Because you could see 33 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 3: there was a little well, let me back up, so 34 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 3: twenty twelve Chevy Equinox and the fuel leak was where 35 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 3: the stainless steel line. And I keep saying that because 36 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 3: that's what it is. It's actually not stainless steel, though 37 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 3: I believe it's stainless steel coating. I believe it to 38 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 3: be a line coating that they've coated the line assembly, 39 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 3: and it's not exactly one hundred percent pure. It had 40 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 3: a tiny little blister where they I don't understand what 41 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 3: GM engineers are thinking. They hold the fuel lines, they 42 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 3: hold all the steel lines in a plastic clip, and 43 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 3: that clip, you know, every time I see plastic near 44 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 3: anything in a way of a clip, and it's gripping 45 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 3: it real tight. That holds the moisture. And I don't 46 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 3: care how good it's coded. 47 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 4: I don't care. 48 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 3: If it's a solid piece of stainless, it's going to 49 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 3: break down the metal it's holding onto at some point somehow. 50 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 3: In this case, you know, there was a there had 51 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 3: to be a slight little imperfection in the coating and 52 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 3: some moisture got underneath the outside casing and over time 53 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 3: that line rotted to the point that it had a 54 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 3: pinhole leak in it. Now, if that wasn't bad enough, 55 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 3: the purge line, because the purge line four, you know, 56 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 3: comes out of the tank to go up to the 57 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 3: front of the engine purge for a vaporative emissions operations. 58 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 3: The purge line rusted, oh I don't know, a six 59 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 3: to eight inch section of it, like it was going 60 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 3: to fall off the car like I needed a tetan 61 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 3: a shot. After looking at it and without even touching it. 62 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 3: That's how badly rusted the purge line was. And that 63 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 3: was made out of steel. I give that, I give. 64 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 3: I give the fuel line credit. At least it didn't 65 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 3: rot like the like the purge. It just created this 66 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 3: little tiny pinhole that was pee and fuel. Okay, so 67 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 3: we're going to do a fuel line and a purge 68 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 3: line and you know, put the car back on the road. 69 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 3: The box that these two pieces came in was so tall. 70 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 3: The poor parts kid, I mean, he he had to 71 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 3: like he had to loop the box in front and 72 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 3: then stand it up, rest it down, step inside, and 73 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 3: then pick it up and carry it and put it down, 74 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 3: which we ended up telling him to take it and 75 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 3: leave it outside the shop anyway, because it was so big. 76 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 4: There was no place. 77 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 3: Because it's the length of the car. It's the whole 78 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 3: fuel line, you know. It's just you can't imagine how 79 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 3: long this is. And I said to myself, and I 80 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: mentioned this to Danny, I said, wouldn't it made more 81 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 3: sense if they cut both lines in half and nutted 82 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 3: them together, you know, just two steel nuts like a 83 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 3: brake line set up and a flared coupling in the middle, 84 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 3: and it would be easier to ship, easier to handle, 85 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 3: easier to store. I just I just don't understand some 86 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 3: of the things that these guys are thinking. It's it's 87 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 3: but they're just off in. 88 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 4: Their own zone. 89 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 3: But that happens, right, so we you know, put it 90 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 3: all together and and they're not bashful what they charged 91 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 3: for this, by the way, all right, I think the 92 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 3: fuel line was seven hundred dollars just for a piece 93 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 3: of you know, from from here to there, because it 94 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 3: went up to the engine and had a piece of 95 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 3: braided line on the end. They had there's a fuel 96 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 3: pressure sensor on the line. They had that incorporated in. 97 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 3: And I looked at it and I said, it's so 98 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 3: unique that there's no way you're ever going to see 99 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 3: anything like this in the after market. I guess the 100 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 3: after market would try to repair that line, but I 101 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 3: don't see how they could because it's a coating. I 102 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 3: don't see how you could crimp that you couldn't put. 103 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 3: You know, in the old days, we would put a 104 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 3: what we called a feral nut set up, which is 105 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 3: a compression sleeve with an actual hex nut going into 106 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 3: an adapter and you would crush it down and you 107 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 3: would make the two together and seal it up. But 108 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 3: you know, when a line is coated or dipped in 109 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 3: whatever it was, which it looked like stainless to me, 110 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 3: that was my initial reaction. You can't use a feral 111 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 3: compression fitting. It just doesn't work because you're gonna you're 112 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 3: gonna break the back of the of the dipping material, 113 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 3: so to speak, and it's gonna break its bond with 114 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 3: the pipe that it's attached. 115 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 4: To, and it's gonna leak. 116 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 3: Cars are made funny, they you know, you look at 117 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 3: you look at how they're made and how they're designed, 118 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 3: and you say, did it was anybody thinking? And yet 119 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 3: they sell millions of them? So it just know, it's 120 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 3: just it kind of boggles the mind, you know. I 121 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 3: guess if cards were perfect, it would be this radio 122 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 3: show would be on the air. So some people would 123 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 3: like that, you know, but more people would not. So 124 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 3: we'll stay. 125 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 6: Anyway. 126 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 3: Hey, Aron, long time listening to Thanks for the great show. 127 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 3: Is hoping to get some input. We recently purchased our 128 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 3: twenty twenty Accura when our lease ended. The vehicle is 129 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 3: approximately thirty six thousand miles on it. We received the 130 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 3: letter regarding a recall number twenty three Victor Dish seven 131 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 3: fifty one. I sent Marke an email about this, by 132 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 3: the way, campaign number GGO. I wanted to put this 133 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 3: up on air service bulletin number twenty three dish oh 134 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 3: thirty six. Yeah, I read twenty three dish oh thirty 135 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 3: six from Accurate. You know, you would think accurate Honda, 136 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 3: and I call Honda out and Accurate whenever these things happen, 137 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 3: because they've got this, they've got this idea that they 138 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 3: don't make any mistakes, and I just I kind of 139 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 3: like to point them out just because they're human like 140 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 3: the rest of us. 141 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 4: They're not immortal. If you own a late model Accurate 142 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 4: MDX and you're driving it with a V six, you're 143 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 4: maybe under subject or recall model years. If I recall correctly, it. 144 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 3: Was twenty sixteen, twenty fifteen through twenty And that's actually 145 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 3: what the bulletin says. Having in front of me, yeah, 146 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 3: that's actually what the bulletin says, twenty fifteen through twenty 147 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 3: and it's actually MDX and tlx's V six is Accura 148 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 3: Honda V six is we're having problems with connecting rods 149 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 3: and bearings and crankshafts falling out the bottom of the engine. 150 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 4: Oops. 151 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 3: You know, and here's the kicker, all right, Mark Mark 152 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 3: said that you know, they they've you know, he's got 153 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 3: a concern. He said, this is a concern is. It's 154 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 3: my wife's car and we use it for long distance travel. 155 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 3: Have you heard anything about this? And what do you think? 156 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 3: Sounds like an engine teared down and a rebuilder replacement. 157 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 3: Thanks for your time and knowledge, Mark. You know, as 158 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 3: I said to Mark, I said, the problem here and well, 159 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 3: the actual recall is for the crankshaft breaks and the 160 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 3: bottom of the engine falls out. So minor problem, you know, 161 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 3: especially for the guy behind you, which. 162 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 4: You know, you've got to think about this now. 163 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 3: Right you're driving your car down the highway at seventy 164 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 3: miles an hour and the bottom of the engine, you know, 165 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 3: it just blows up and falls out through the oil pan. Well, 166 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 3: if you're behind this guy at seventy miles an hour, 167 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 3: imagine running over half of an engine at seventy miles 168 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 3: an hour? What's that going to do to your car? 169 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 3: And then you know who's responsible for that. But here's 170 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 3: the best part, so you know, accurate, Honda whoever, in 171 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 3: their efforts to keep you know, this is all about, 172 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 3: you know, cover your butt. 173 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 4: You know they come out with a bulletin. 174 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 3: There's no parts, there's no loaner cars, there's no So Mark, 175 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 3: right now, I said Mark, I said, go back to 176 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 3: the dealer. I said, tell them you want a loaner car. 177 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be comfortable, you know, would you be comfortable 178 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 3: driving a car knowing that the engine has a recall 179 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 3: on it, that it could blow up? And I said, 180 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 3: you know, and you know, especially your wife, she's probably 181 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 3: a nervous wreck drive in this car. Don't be aware 182 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 3: of that. The bullet number again is twenty three D 183 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 3: show thirty six. If you think you were affected, you should. 184 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 3: You could take your seventeen digit VIN and go out 185 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 3: to knitsa National Highway Traffic Safety Authority at HTSA dot gov, 186 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 3: and there'll be a place there you can type in 187 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 3: the VN and it will tell you if you're in 188 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 3: a recall or not. Not that that's going to do 189 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 3: you any good because you can't get you can't get parts, 190 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 3: you can't get a loaner vehicle. 191 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 4: You're stuck with this car. 192 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 3: Which you know, I mean, I don't understand it. Just 193 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 3: have to digress a minute. I don't understand how this 194 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 3: thing called an engine, which we've been making for oh, 195 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 3: I don't know, one hundred years, we all of a 196 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 3: sudden don't know how to make certain parts such that 197 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 3: they'll fail. I thought cars were getting better and more indestructible, 198 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 3: but I guess I'm dreaming. You know, it doesn't make 199 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 3: any sense to me, but be aware. You know, years ago, 200 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 3: as an aside, years ago, there was conversation that vehicle 201 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 3: owners were going to be allowed and it actually went 202 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 3: through Congress. I'm going back fifteen, maybe almost eighteen years. 203 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 3: It actually went through Congress. There was a bill in 204 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 3: front of Congress where they were going to require vehicle 205 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 3: manufacturers to send bulletins of safety or importance, not just recalls, 206 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 3: but some of the other things. And then there was conversation. 207 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 3: I think it failed because they were like, well, let's 208 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 3: just send everything to the consumer, the person that owns 209 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 3: the vehicle, or give them the ability to access it. 210 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 4: And I think it's necessary. I think you need to. 211 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 3: I think if you spend forty fifty sixty thousand dollars 212 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 3: on a vehicle, you're entitled to know. The manufacturers saying, hey, 213 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 3: this is a problem, folks, this is something that could 214 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 3: go wrong, But they don't all right, They keep it 215 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 3: bottled up. It's really hard to get information out of them. 216 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 3: And I think they're wrong for that. I think that 217 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 3: everybody should know here's a common issue, and it would 218 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 3: save lives, never mind save money, but sense that common 219 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 3: sense thing again. Hey, five five five six zero nine 220 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 3: nine zero zero. Running the end of the car doctor 221 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 3: coming back right after this. 222 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 4: Don't go away eat. 223 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 5: When you get keep Ron's number handy eight five five 224 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 5: five six zero nine nine zero zero for when you 225 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 5: really need advice on your car. 226 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 7: Here's Rob. 227 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 3: Hey, let's let's do a quick piece of email. By 228 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 3: the way, the phone numbers eight five five five six 229 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 3: zero nine nine zero zero. 230 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 4: Good time to get in. The phones are quiet. Let's uh, 231 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 4: let's go to Let's go do this. Mike Mike? 232 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 6: Is that Gary? Mike? 233 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 3: Gary GT Innovations wrote me a nice long email here 234 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 3: questions about a two thousand Lincoln Town car. Hey, Ron, 235 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 3: a long time listener, greatly appreciate your expertise, personal service, diligence, 236 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 3: and humor. It's gonna must be a relative. I've been 237 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 3: at it. I've been in oh, I've been I've been 238 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 3: an IT engineer. I can't read today. I've been an 239 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 3: IT engineer in part time mechanic for forty years and 240 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 3: use the same troubleshooting techniques with both to solve problems. 241 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 3: I'm always I've always determined what's good, so I know 242 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 3: it's bad, and then divide and conquered. My father in 243 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 3: law as a two thousand Lincoln town Car with automatic 244 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 3: electronic air temperature control climate control, and would call me 245 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 3: stating that his heat air defrost works fine when first 246 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 3: driving the car, but after thirty minutes nowhere comes out 247 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 3: of anywhere. He can drive twenty minutes to the store 248 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 3: and it works fine, then comes out of the store 249 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 3: and drives back twenty minutes and it's fine. It's always 250 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 3: a thirty minute time frame, which is weird. Sounds like 251 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 3: computer related. Just the top my head, mike before we 252 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 3: go further, because it's just it's just so precision timed. 253 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 3: It sounds like something electronic is timing out. I had 254 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 3: him drive out to my place, which is forty five 255 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 3: minutes away, and sure enough, when he arrived, I could 256 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 3: hear the fan on high, but nothing out of the 257 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 3: floor face or to frost fence. I did the EATC 258 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 3: diagnostic off floor auto and no fall codes, press buttons 259 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 3: between floor face the frost and no change turn off 260 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 3: the car. Five minutes later, it started up and blew 261 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 3: out just fine. As with computers, non repeatable intermittent problems 262 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 3: are hard to solve, so I was hoping that it 263 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 3: would finally fail this winter, so quickly diagnosed it in 264 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 3: the meantime or right online that a common problem could 265 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 3: be the twenty four year old over rings in the 266 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 3: EATC unit causing a vacuum leak, so I replaced them, 267 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 3: but it didn't solve. 268 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 4: The next possibility I thought. 269 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 3: Of is the HVAC vacuum res of ore under the cow, 270 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 3: but have not checked it. Winter is not a big 271 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 3: deal since he does not go on long trips, but 272 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 3: summer will be a hassle. So I told them an email. 273 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 3: You see, if you've seen this shoe and had any suggestions, 274 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 3: thanks in the advanced Mike. You know, Mike, there's a 275 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 3: there's Well, this is a pretty simple system, all right. 276 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 3: You've got a vacuum reservoir out under the hood and 277 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 3: it pulls vacuum in from the engine manifold vacuum, all right, 278 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 3: And it then goes out and it feeds the automatic 279 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 3: climate control unit under the dash, all right. That automatic 280 00:13:55,760 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 3: climate control unit under the dash then splits and it 281 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 3: will go to the there's two servo motors or two 282 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 3: vacuum diaphragms. One controls heat the frost, one controls I'm sorry, 283 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 3: one controls you know, panel to frost, and the other 284 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 3: one controls the second one controls floor to panel. So 285 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 3: the access point if you were to take out the 286 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 3: ash trayn' sound weird. But if you take out the 287 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 3: ash tray, all right, you will see the vacuum lines 288 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 3: come right up into the back of the ash tray. 289 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 3: Those are the two vacuum lines that feed the If 290 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 3: I remember right the floor panel servo, there's two lines there. 291 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 3: Do you have vacuum there? Put a vacuum gage to 292 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 3: it and go for a ride when the problem's happening. 293 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 3: Do you have vacuum there? If you don't have vacuum 294 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 3: either one of those lines, and you've got to trace 295 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 3: it back to the electronic climate control unit, does it 296 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 3: have vacuum coming in? And you're right, go to the 297 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 3: vacuum reservoir. Now we'll try this, okay, and this is 298 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 3: going to sound really crazy, but if you put the 299 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 3: parking brake on, this should have a vacuum release parking brake. 300 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 3: If you put the parking brake on and then put 301 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 3: it in drive. Does the parking brake automatically release? If 302 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 3: it does not, then I'm going to tell you that 303 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 3: you probably have a vacuum supply problem. Why because the 304 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 3: vacuum line that goes to the parking brake control unit, 305 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 3: all right, comes from the same vacuum reservoir. They split 306 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 3: the two lines out the back. One goes down to 307 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 3: the climate control one goes over to the parking brake. 308 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 3: So if it can't pull the parking brake off, as 309 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 3: a matter of fact, you could go to the parking 310 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 3: brake and check you should have an engine vacuum at 311 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 3: that parking brake release and if you do not, again 312 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 3: you've got to go back and trace your sources out. 313 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 3: So the best thing you could do if you're stuck 314 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 3: with this is get yourself a vacuum diagram and it 315 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 3: breaks it down into real simple There's not a lot 316 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 3: of vacuum lines here, and you're going to find that 317 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 3: it's this sounds like a vacuum supply problem that's bleeding off, 318 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 3: or this is going to be it's got plenty of 319 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 3: vacuum coming into the electronic control unit, but the mechanical 320 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 3: side is failing over time, and it needs to be replaced. 321 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 3: And that's There's really not a whole lot else here, 322 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 3: you know, so just just try that. 323 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 4: If you need me, you know where to find me, 324 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 4: give me a call. 325 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 3: We had a listener call in. I just want to 326 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 3: do this real quick before we take the break. Marty 327 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 3: from Tennessee and Knoxville, Knoxville, Tennessee. I remember Knoxville, Tennessee. 328 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 3: Wonderful down there. Anyway, a caller a few weeks ago 329 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 3: you were talking about a product that you put in 330 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 3: your radiator, seal up different things like the heater core 331 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 3: and I couldn't catch the name. Can you tell me 332 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 3: what it was? It was k Seal Marty, you're speaking 333 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 3: about k Seal cooling system sealer. If he can get 334 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 3: back to me, and he gave us his phone number. Marty, 335 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 3: we couldn't get a hold of you today, but I 336 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 3: wanted to get this out on here. We were talking 337 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 3: about k Seal. K seal is you know it's it's 338 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 3: and we're fortunate, listen, we were using k seal before 339 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 3: they became a sponsor. Our use of k seal led 340 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 3: them to us, because you know, I was talking about 341 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 3: it prior and you know one thing led to another. 342 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 3: But I'm fortunate and that a lot of the companies 343 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 3: I use in the shop I get to it's not 344 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 3: hard to convince them to command to be sponsors and 345 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 3: advertisers here on air because they realized what this radio 346 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 3: show is. So you know, you're looking for K Seal 347 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 3: Marty and just follow the directions on the bottle. They 348 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 3: also make I think the partner what you're looking for 349 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 3: is ST. Stephen Thomas thirty five oh one. They also 350 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 3: make a product ST fifty five oh one, which is 351 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 3: their head gas cod sealer K Seal Cooling System head 352 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 3: gas cod sealer, which the I believe the number is 353 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 3: thirty three percent thirty three percent more ceiling power. So 354 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 3: the head gas cond sealer has a larger quantity. 355 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 4: Of sealer in it. 356 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 3: So if you're dealing with a head guess it will 357 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 3: work and do the job that you're expecting it to do. So, 358 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 3: but you're looking for CAC more information at KCAL dot com. 359 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 4: All right, let pull over, take the pause. When we 360 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 4: come back, we've got a full phone board. I'm running 361 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 4: nay in the car. 362 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 6: Doctor. 363 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 4: We're gonna get to everybody right after this. 364 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 6: Don't go away. 365 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 4: But I'm back. 366 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 3: We're name of the car doctor here eight five five 367 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 3: five six zero nine nine zero zero. Let's get over 368 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,959 Speaker 3: to Let's go to Herbie in Virginia. Herbie, how can 369 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 3: I help? What's going on? 370 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 7: N Yes, twenty sixteen VW Jedi Hybrid Wife drives it 371 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 7: to ninety nine percent of the time back and forth 372 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 7: between our home and the wrench Oldnite's Baby set. For 373 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 7: the last seven years and one hundred and five thousand miles, 374 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 7: the transmission went caflue okay, no warning, nothing and can't 375 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 7: get BW to tell me whether or not this particular 376 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 7: transmission had a problem, never issued any bulletins and was 377 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 7: a eleven thousand dollar job to find the last one 378 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 7: in America to put in it. 379 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, they did have some problems. There 380 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 3: were some issues. They usually set a P zero eight 381 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 3: forty one trans fluid pressure switch which is part of 382 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 3: the mectronic mechatronic mectronic unit internal in the trans The 383 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 3: problem is to get it out. 384 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 4: It's a lot of work. 385 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 3: And you know at that stage, you're you're talking about 386 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 3: a car that's what sixteen, so it's eight years old 387 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 3: now or you know, nine years old, depending upon you know, 388 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 3: service date. A one hundred thousand miles, you're gonna start 389 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 3: patch repairing a transmission and put a trans in it. 390 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:00,959 Speaker 3: It's and look at the expense, right Herbie, that's crazy 391 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 3: eleven grand for a transmission, and we we can't make 392 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 3: something last longer than that. 393 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, most transmissions supposed to last about two hundred thousand miles, 394 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 7: aren't they. 395 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, you'll see, you know, I'll see transmissions around one fifty. 396 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 3: I'm expecting to put a trans in a vehicle all 397 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 3: right in my you know, I mean listen, but on average, Okay, 398 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 3: somebody comes in and they tell me, you know, my 399 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 3: car is burning oil, and I'm told that it's normal 400 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 3: because it's a quart every thousand miles. The industry says 401 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 3: that's good. Some car companies are talking a quart every 402 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 3: eight hundred miles, which blows my mind. I just I 403 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 3: just don't understand. 404 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't get it. 405 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 3: You know, we're all about clean air in the environment 406 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 3: and you know, clean green and all that, and yet 407 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 3: we're allowing cars to burn oil because the catalytic converter 408 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 3: then does the job and reduces down the emissions and 409 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 3: we burn out the cat and we have to put 410 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 3: a cat on the car or we replace the vehicle 411 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 3: because we find out cats are seven thousand dollars. 412 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 7: Well, the car has been extremely dependable and my wife 413 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 7: is really enjoyed it. So and guess what in the 414 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 7: new transmission only has a guarantee for one year. My 415 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 7: question was it was a brand new transmission, how come 416 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 7: it is in the thirty six thousand mile or a 417 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 7: three year guarantee like a brand new car. 418 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 3: Well, and I would ask them, you know, all fair questions, 419 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 3: and I would ask them, Well, I have a couple 420 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 3: of questions. Was it a real Volkswagen trans or was 421 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 3: it an outside rebuilder that Volkswagen uses? 422 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 7: Right? Slightest that idea. Allegedly, the new one is a 423 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 7: brand new one volkswagn transmission. So then one that came 424 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 7: in it in twenty sixteen, I have to think, was 425 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 7: right a Volkswagen transmit? 426 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 3: Well, no, no, I'm I'm talking about the replacement. So the 427 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 3: replacement was a real VW unit. So then why is 428 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 3: it only You're right, why is it only twelve months 429 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 3: twelve thousand miles? 430 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 4: That doesn't seem like it's enough of a. 431 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 3: Warranty, you know, it's it's you know anyway, most manufacturers, 432 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 3: let me just tell you this, most manufacturers you use 433 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 3: a replacement powertrain unit from, like Chrysler. Chrysler engines are 434 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 3: I believe three years fifty thousand miles. Some of them 435 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 3: are three years unlimited mileage. You know, so I would 436 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 3: you know, you may want to ask can you buy 437 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 3: an extended warranty policy on that? It may pay off 438 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 3: because my gosh, eleven thousand dollars. If you spend two 439 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,479 Speaker 3: grand on a policy to get another five years out 440 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 3: of it, by then you're done with the car. 441 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 4: Anyway, you're coming out ahead right. 442 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 7: Well, hey, my two thousand chicks jeded Diese gets me 443 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 7: sixty miles of the gallon has two hundred and twenty 444 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 7: thousand miles on it. It's going to the junkyard when 445 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 7: I go. 446 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 3: All right, well, is it a stick or an automatic 447 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,959 Speaker 3: stick stick? That's why you know, and you know how 448 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 3: to drive a car. That's the other part of it. 449 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 7: Well, thanks, Ron, I really appreciate keep up the good 450 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 7: work on the program. 451 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 4: Thank you, sir. 452 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 3: I appreciate it, and thanks for being there. Let's wander 453 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 3: over and talk to uh bye bye. Let's I'm sorry. 454 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 3: Let's let's wander over and let's go talk to Tom 455 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 3: in New Hampshire and let's see what's on his mind. Tom, 456 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:51,479 Speaker 3: you're off the car doctor, how can he help? 457 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: Sir Hi Ron, Yes, by saying, I'm I've been a 458 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: truck driver my entire life. 459 00:22:59,320 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 6: Okay. 460 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: I started listening to you when I was young from 461 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 1: my dad, and you were talking about planned obsolescence and 462 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: way back I remember you doing an interview with Chevy 463 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: person from the factory and that's what they wanted. Then. 464 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 1: Oh sure, once the cars starts to start to you 465 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 1: just get rid of it instead of. 466 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 6: Why fix it? Why fix it? 467 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 4: Listen, I go back to you. 468 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 3: Know, it's funny how my brain is wired because I 469 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 3: remember little bits and pieces of things that I read. 470 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 3: I can see things that I read fifty years ago 471 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 3: when I was much younger. Yeah, you know, and it 472 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 3: sticks with me. I remember the article. I remember the 473 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 3: article that General Motors declared they had finally engineered the 474 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 3: turbohydramatic four hundred, which was a sixties transmission right. Yeah, 475 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 3: A turbohydramatic four hundred, on average would go two hundred 476 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 3: and fifty thousand miles in the sixties and the seventies, 477 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 3: and General Motors didn't like that, so they put some 478 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 3: engineers on it, and they finally got the engineers to 479 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 3: dumb it down enough that it would only go one 480 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 3: hundred thousand miles and then fail, and they. 481 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: Put up They had a nineteen sixty seven in Palla 482 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: with a two eighty three and a I think it 483 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: was a two speed automatic that got twenty three miles 484 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: a gallon at the time. 485 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well a lot of it. It's you know, 486 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 3: it's listen, more is better. Technology is better? 487 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 6: I guess I, yes, it is. 488 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: You know, I have arguments with my son all the time, you. 489 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 3: Know, listen, I mean we talk about technology. Sometimes it's 490 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 3: not cars. I decided to join the next evolution and 491 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 3: I put I put my credit card in my cell 492 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 3: phone on Google pay, all right. 493 00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 6: Because it's kind of neat. 494 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I sa I saw this a couple of times, 495 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 3: and I said, hey, this is kind of neat. 496 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 4: You put your credit card on your phone. 497 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 3: Now you can walk up to a credit card termerrole 498 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 3: and go dink and you never got to take your 499 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 3: credit card out, which if we're trying to be security 500 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 3: conscience of those around us, because the world is such 501 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 3: a supposed to be such a scary place, so you goink. 502 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 3: Here's the catch. In order to do that and use 503 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 3: that technology, I now have to put a pin password 504 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 3: on my phone, and every time my phone screen goes dark, 505 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 3: I have to use my pin password to access my phone, which, okay, 506 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 3: I get it. 507 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 4: But it's a big. 508 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 3: Pain in the neck, you know. Just just when we're 509 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 3: sitting here doing the radio show. Tom's not in studio 510 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 3: with me. Tom's one hundred miles north. We're doing this 511 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 3: by remote, and I've got to text Tom back and forth. 512 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 3: I don't have time to enter another set of numbers 513 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 3: and another okay, and another continue in another. 514 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 6: You know. 515 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 3: Sometimes more technology, you know, sometimes more technology is just 516 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 3: not good, you know. So we uh we we we 517 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 3: take a we take a pause, you know, And. 518 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: That's I do have a small question for you. It's 519 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: a small one. At ninety nine Ford F two fifty 520 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:21,479 Speaker 1: V ten, is there a way to tell if it 521 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: has the two piece spark plugs in it or not? 522 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 3: It does not not. Ninety nine two piece two piece 523 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 3: plugs started I believe two thousand and four model year, 524 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 3: and they only were there for about seven years. They 525 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 3: went two thousand and four through twenty ten. 526 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: Oh, I was worried about that. Now you're saying, I 527 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 1: think I have to do spark plug. 528 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're safe. Well if you've never had them out. 529 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:46,719 Speaker 3: Now you're talking about plugs that have been in there 530 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 3: almost twenty five years, so you know you're. 531 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: Gonna it only has one hundred thousand miles on it. 532 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 3: Well you still you know right now we age from 533 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 3: sitting You know that you know what I'm going to 534 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 3: tell you, So, yes, sir, you know it's it's pull 535 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 3: the spark plug, wire tubes, coil packs, whatever is on 536 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 3: that off and I would shoot a little bit, a 537 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 3: little bit of PB blaster in each hole and let 538 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 3: it sit, Yeah, and let it. 539 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: Save that you use AutoZone now I've been using him 540 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: for years. 541 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, and just let it soak a little bit, crack 542 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 3: the plugs loose just a little bit, and give another 543 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 3: shot at PB it' and let it sit overnight and 544 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 3: you're probably gonna find the next morning you're gonna walk 545 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 3: out there and the plugs are going to walk out 546 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 3: of the head, you know, but you'll know right away, 547 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 3: all right. 548 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: Sir, Thank you, sir. 549 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 4: You're right. 550 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to have a good rest of the day. 551 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 3: YouTube, be well, be safe. I'm running any and the 552 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 3: Car Doctor. We are back right after this. 553 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 4: Don't go away. 554 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 3: Welcome back n the Car Doctor. Harry five five five 555 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 3: six zero nine nine zero zero. I want to talk 556 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 3: a little bit about batteries. I get a lot of 557 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 3: battery questions during the course of the week. We do 558 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 3: a fair share of batteries at the shop. And you know, 559 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 3: an observation, actually an observation from Kathy, our office girl 560 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 3: that shows up Wednesday and Friday about her son's jeep. 561 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 3: You know, she pointed out something and she was right, 562 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 3: and I you know, it's something we've touched on but 563 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 3: haven't really gone deep into. So her son's jeep, it's 564 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 3: a twenty fifteen jeep Grand Cherokee, has a has an 565 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 3: AGM battery underneath the passenger side seat. It's not the 566 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 3: most accessible place. You're not going to get to it easily. 567 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 3: It's it's probably every bit of forty five minutes to 568 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 3: change this battery, and then some because the seat has 569 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 3: to come all the way forward and up, and you 570 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 3: have to get the cover off, and then you have 571 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 3: to get and it's it's a mess. Then if the 572 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 3: vehicle has start stop right like so many vehicles have 573 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 3: start stop technology, what Chrysler does in this application on 574 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 3: a newer one, they will put a second battery right 575 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 3: next to the first to get the first battery out, 576 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 3: to get the arm, sorry, to get the primary battery out, 577 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 3: you got to take out. 578 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 4: The little battery. 579 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 3: And then you've got to keep in mind, as Kathy 580 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 3: so aptly pointed out, she's kind of observant, which is 581 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 3: why we keep her around. It will it's not the 582 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 3: most accessible thing you can get to it. It's sort 583 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 3: of buried. So this isn't something This isn't like the 584 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 3: old days where you could change a battery easily in 585 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 3: a parking lot with the hood up. This is both 586 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 3: doors open passenger side front and back door, the seat 587 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 3: all the way forward, working from front and back. It's 588 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 3: tough to gain access and you've got to be aware. 589 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 3: It's an AGM battery. It's an absorbing glass MATT battery. 590 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 3: In a fifteen and newer christ if it's a start 591 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 3: stop vehicle, it's going to have an AGM battery in it. 592 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 3: You know they've got longer life, but they still need 593 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 3: to be tested on a regular basis. And that was 594 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 3: the point of Kathy's question and so many of or others, 595 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 3: so many of you other questions out there. You've been 596 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 3: asking me, hey, does uh. 597 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 4: You know, does it? 598 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:08,479 Speaker 6: Does it? 599 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 3: Does it matter when you test it? Or do you 600 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 3: need to test it? And you know, how does that work? 601 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: Right? 602 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 4: So just just be mindful and be aware that. 603 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 3: Uh, you know, this is something that you know, a 604 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 3: GM batteries technology has changed and they still need to 605 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 3: be tested. You know what really got me thinking about 606 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 3: this was I got gas this morning at the Shell station. 607 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 3: There's a new Shell station here in town, and it's 608 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,239 Speaker 3: actually the old Texico station I used to work at 609 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 3: as a kid. And I'm looking around and I'm thinking, 610 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 3: you know, Billy, my first boss that I talk about 611 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 3: from time to time. You know, he's gone, the station's gone. 612 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 3: I'm still here, though, I have to think about that. 613 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 3: But a lot of what Billy said still applies. It's 614 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 3: got to have good breaks, it's got to have good tires, 615 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 3: it's got to have a good battery right, and the 616 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 3: cooling system has to be adequate, and you know, those 617 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 3: are still the important things. Even in the car today. 618 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 3: I think the battery is probably even more important because 619 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 3: of the electronics on the vehicle. And as Kathy said, 620 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 3: Can asked, Kathy ask me, she said, can a weak 621 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 3: battery damage electronics? You know, they take a lot of 622 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 3: steps to avoid that, but in some cases, yeah, you know, 623 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 3: it's we've had too. We've taken batteries that were old, tired, 624 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 3: bed failed to test replace them, and the radio is 625 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 3: locked up or the body computers locked up, and we've 626 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 3: actually had a tie battery cables together and bleed down 627 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 3: the system for fifteen minutes to get it to start 628 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 3: operating again, because they get hung, just like your desktop 629 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 3: computer gets hung after a Windows update and you know 630 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 3: you've got to turn the computer off and wait for 631 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 3: it to quote unquote bleed out. So just just batteries 632 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 3: have changed, you know, it's it's there's an awful lot 633 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 3: of reading you could do. I'm going to send you 634 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 3: out to auto batteries dot com, of course, our preferred 635 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 3: site for finding information about batteries. They talk about a GM, 636 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 3: they talk about standard lead battery reas they you know, 637 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 3: but it's a good source. A lot of questions, a 638 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 3: lot of answers out there, but just just be thinking 639 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 3: about it, and you know, and then last, I want 640 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 3: to tell you that, yeah, you're sitting on top of 641 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 3: that battery and those jeep in Chrysler products. You know, 642 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 3: it's it's it's a concern. So technology is changing. We 643 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 3: have to change with it. We've got to get educated, 644 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 3: We've got to get smart auto batteries dot com. Let 645 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 3: me pull over, take the pause. I'm ronning any and 646 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 3: the car doctor. I'll be back right after this. Don't 647 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 3: go away, welcome back, run Nanny the card doctor are 648 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 3: winding it down this week. You know, if you think 649 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 3: technology hasn't changed, and you know, I want to add 650 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 3: one last thing. You know, Kathy got me thinking. You know, 651 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 3: she's saying, yeah, but you're sitting on the battery. That's right, Kath. 652 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 3: And if the cover is missing, if the technician doesn't 653 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 3: install the cover back under the seat in a spot 654 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 3: you can't easily see, you know, all that's being exposed 655 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 3: to inside the vehicle. You wonder, battery fumes, battery gassing, 656 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 3: although aging batteries don't do it as often, or as 657 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 3: much or at all. But yeah, you know what, a 658 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 3: lot of this depends on everybody doing their job correctly. 659 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 4: So I get it. It's a safety concern. 660 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 3: I was reading an article, you know, talking about technology changing. 661 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 3: I was reading an article on Jelopnik. I think it's 662 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 3: this is a jelopnik dot com or jelopnik dot org. 663 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 3: I'm not sure which, but I've got to go check this. 664 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 3: I'm not aware of this, but now I am. But 665 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 3: Toyota a start stop technology in a Toyota. They've actually 666 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 3: got a fault code that will set based on how 667 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 3: many times the vehicle has started, So if the vehicle, 668 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 3: Toyota will allow. The article says Toyota will allow three 669 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 3: hundred and eighty four thousand starts before it throws a code. 670 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 3: And then they want you to put a starter in 671 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 3: the car. So I guess there is a you know, 672 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 3: there is a limit to how much abuse they're going 673 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 3: to let the starter take and what's going to happen 674 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 3: to it. But now I've got to go find a 675 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 3: Toyota with start stop and look and see if there's 676 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 3: a reset and if there's a fault cort, I'm gonna 677 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 3: have to look it up in all data. I'm sure 678 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 3: all data will have it. And but isn't that something right? 679 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 3: You never thought Hey, I've got a fault cote. 680 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 4: What's wrong with it? You need a starter. We never 681 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 4: thought things would be that simple. 682 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 7: You know, I was. 683 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 5: Watching the mail person the other day going up the street. Here, 684 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 5: we've got to start stopping those trucks, right every mail 685 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 5: box that thing stops and then starts. Well, Tom, listen, 686 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty mail boxes on the street. 687 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 3: You know, ask ask anny landscaper. The lawn season is 688 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 3: going to be coming up. Ask any landscaper how many 689 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 3: how many? How many loans do they cut a day? 690 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 3: They'll tell you fifty. That means that truck stops and 691 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 3: starts fifty times every day, six days a week, times 692 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:44,760 Speaker 3: the length of the season. 693 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 4: Start doing the math. 694 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 3: It's crazy, It's absolutely crazy. Uh So, yeah, you know 695 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 3: it's all numbers, folks. 696 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 6: You know. 697 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 3: Geez, I didn't get to my f one fifty lightning 698 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 3: story again. I'm gonna do it next week. We're gonna 699 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 3: talk about forty in the f one fifty lightning and 700 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 3: the what's going on over there? Because this doctor never 701 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 3: mind the hour, the two hours just flew by. Hey, 702 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 3: I'm running ady in the car, doctor. In case you forgot, 703 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 3: I'm reminding you and I'm telling you once again, good 704 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 3: mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 705 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 1: See you