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Speaker 1: Slammed the ground by Budda Baker like a torpedo. He

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Speaker 1: This is it. Caught by Kirk at the twenty at

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Speaker 1: the ten touchdown, Baby Fail. Here's Craig Grilou, Mike Jarecki

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Speaker 1: and Bertrand Berry. So there will be no singing, but

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Speaker 1: we do need to shout out Kurt Warner and wish

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Speaker 1: him a very special happy birthday. Graybeard, as Ron Wilfley

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Speaker 1: likes to call him or nicknamed him, is truly now

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Speaker 1: mj A Graybeard. He is fifty years old here on

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Speaker 1: this June twenty second. Happy birthday to Kurt, considered one

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Speaker 1: of the NFL's greatest undrafted players. He's the only undrafted

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Speaker 1: player to be named the MVP and also the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl MVP. And we know how successful he was with

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals and just less than two minutes in

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Speaker 1: that game, Craig. But anyways, happy birthday to Graybeard and

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Speaker 1: our colleague here on the call the Cardinals Red Sea Report.

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Speaker 1: As the professional broadcaster here opens up the show, bertram

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Speaker 1: Berry has an intimate relationship with mister Warner, and we

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Speaker 1: have to say it be trained because it is in

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Speaker 1: parts because of you that Kurt Warner is up in

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Speaker 1: that Cardinal's Ring of Honor because of a certain day

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Speaker 1: in New York. I believe it was what a would

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Speaker 1: you like to say, a four piece day, four sex,

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Speaker 1: no fro there you go. See, I always remem remember, yeah,

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Speaker 1: well you know that was actually a sun devil. It

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Speaker 1: And you know, Kurt and I never talked about that

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Speaker 1: the birthday shout out to my old teammate. He may

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Speaker 1: goal and uh, you know, definitely got love for him. Well,

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Speaker 1: so I believe on that flight home is when he

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Speaker 1: Carlos Stans We bought got him a couple of times

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Speaker 1: that day too, so detail absolutely it was a great

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Speaker 1: day for carl great day. All right. Well, speaking of quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: your favorite position to talk about here, Betran, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: So Kyle Murray does not ta a four piece no

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Speaker 1: fries afternoon like Kurt Warner did on that day in

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Speaker 1: you look at it, you know you've got three starters

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Speaker 1: the starts of this segment, b Train about taking advantage

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Speaker 1: of the opportunity and maybe we don't see Dennis Gardak

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Speaker 1: play any defense if Chandler Jones doesn't go down, and

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Speaker 1: it's just something that you're waiting in the wings if

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Speaker 1: you're Dennis Gardak for that tap on the shoulder and say, son,

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Speaker 1: go in, let's see what you can do. Some players

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Speaker 1: get that opportunity, others don't. But it is a great

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Speaker 1: example for everyone out there, even if you are undrafted.

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Speaker 1: You can be successful in this league if only given

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Speaker 1: the opportunity. But it's up to you to do something

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Speaker 1: with that opportunity. You gotta be prepared and that comes

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Speaker 1: with preparation. You gotta be prepared for the moment. And

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Speaker 1: that's the one thing that makes it so great as

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Speaker 1: far as Dennis is concerned, because every time he was

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Speaker 1: tapped on the shoulder, as you said, he was prepared.

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Speaker 1: He was ready for the moment and he took full advantage.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, there's gonna be times where you get tapped

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Speaker 1: on the shoulder, and if you're not prepared, you can

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Speaker 1: go out there and make a fool of yourself and

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Speaker 1: you won't get many more taps on the shoulder after that.

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Speaker 1: So the fact that he's been able to do that

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Speaker 1: and excel in the and I think Dennis is the

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Speaker 1: type of player that he really doesn't care as long

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Speaker 1: as he's contributing and my team win. Whatever role that

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Speaker 1: they put him in and ask him to play, I

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Speaker 1: think he's gonna go out there and play it at

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Speaker 1: the highest level and to the best of his capabilities.

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Speaker 1: And those are blue guys. Those are the type of

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Speaker 1: guys that you need on a roster. You need about

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Speaker 1: three or four of those guys to just have a

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Speaker 1: round because they set a tone just by the way

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Speaker 1: that they approached the game and their professionalism and their

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Speaker 1: energy and effort is something that is definitely contagious and

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Speaker 1: the rest of the team can catch on. I'll say this,

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Speaker 1: he is If he does play defense, that's great, but

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Speaker 1: he is dead sets and I think he will always

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Speaker 1: have a role on special teams just based off what

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Speaker 1: he has done, and we know the voice that Jeff

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Speaker 1: Rogers has in that room. You don't want those guys

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Speaker 1: to go. Yes, you're happy for them to get out

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Speaker 1: of their opportunities on offense or defense, but special teams

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Speaker 1: is always going to be important for this organization MG

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Speaker 1: as long as Jeff Rogers is here. Yeah, between five

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Speaker 1: and eight guys and usually it's if you're playing backup role,

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Speaker 1: you're going to be dressed on game day. Now, if

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Speaker 1: you go back to that game where Chandler got hurt

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Speaker 1: and he was going against Andrew Thomas, who I like

477
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Speaker 1: coming out of the draft, but he obviously struggled. He

478
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Speaker 1: pancaked him on the first play and the next thing,

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Speaker 1: you know, and maybe going against Humphries in training camp

480
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Speaker 1: or the right side, he put a move on Andrew Thomas,

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Speaker 1: who was picked very high in the draft. And after

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Speaker 1: that you could see that they were trying to slide

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Speaker 1: the line a little bit, but he got pancaked right

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Speaker 1: from the get go. I'm like, wow, this is interesting.

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Speaker 1: And then he came back and obviously him and Sawn

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Speaker 1: Reddick had big games. When you look at outside linebacker,

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Speaker 1: you've got Chandler Jones, Marcus Golden, and Devon can Hard.

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Speaker 1: Maybe those are your top three and then you wait

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Speaker 1: until Dennis Gardak gets healthy. But betrain Win Gardak does return.

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Speaker 1: If those top three guys are not doing what they're

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Speaker 1: supposed to be doing or aren't effective, you know you've

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Speaker 1: got someone in the bullpen. If you will just chomping

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Speaker 1: at the bed saying put me in I don't think

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Speaker 1: there's any reason to keep Dennis Gardak off the field. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you may have names in front of him, but when

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Speaker 1: you start talking about productivity, the productivity speaks for itself.

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Speaker 1: Seven sacks and seven sacks. There's a lot of starters

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Speaker 1: in the NFL they don't have seven sacks. So if

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Speaker 1: he is available and he has an opportunity to get

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Speaker 1: on the field, you put that kind of productivity on

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Speaker 1: the field and and we'll worry about hurt feelings later.

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Speaker 1: So I think it's it's all about who put the

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Speaker 1: hot hand, who's playing the best at the time that

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Speaker 1: should be playing in Yeah, there may be three right

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Speaker 1: now as it stands, but when you get into the

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Speaker 1: heat at the moment he's got to go and showing

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Speaker 1: proved because he's already done that. You got Marcus Golden

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Speaker 1: Dennis Gardack, two passionate players that just have a motor

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Speaker 1: that is just go, and you have to kind of

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Speaker 1: hold him back, and that's part of this rehab process.

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Speaker 1: But to be Train's point, MJ, you like to have

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Speaker 1: those guys, but maybe it's not so much. And I

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Speaker 1: think Gardek would be open to getting more defensive snaps,

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Speaker 1: not at the expense of special teams. We just see

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Speaker 1: him more on the football field. Yeah, and you got

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Speaker 1: Kylie Fitz And again you look at the you know,

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Speaker 1: the Jet package and the NASCAR package. Are they going

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Speaker 1: to use that this year? Considering you've got Collins and

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Speaker 1: Simmons inside. We know Buddha Baker can come into box.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you want to get your playmakers on the field.

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Speaker 1: So it's going to be interesting. Um, it's really good

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Speaker 1: dilemma for for Vans Joseph because he's going to be

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Speaker 1: at to pick and choose based on the opponents. So

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Speaker 1: I'm curious to see what kind of packages they come

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Speaker 1: up with, because you can use Dennis Gardeck and he

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Speaker 1: may draw, you know, the extra tackle on the outside,

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Speaker 1: or maybe he's got to face a running back to

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Speaker 1: get to the quarterback. So it'd be interesting to see

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Speaker 1: this year how different it is from a year ago.

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Speaker 1: Now that you have Chandler Jones, J J. Watt, and

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Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips. Yeah, I was gonna mention j. J. Watt

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Speaker 1: is a new part of the equation. Jordan Phillips healthy,

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, maybe you don't need

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Speaker 1: that NASCAR package because you're just with your base defense.

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Speaker 1: If you will, you're getting pressure on the quarterback, You're

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Speaker 1: getting into the backfield. The question is does that include

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Speaker 1: Dennis Cardeck or nod? When does it include Dennis Gardeck.

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Speaker 1: Single game tickets are on sale now, Bird Gang visit

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Speaker 1: outside linebackers a little bit later on in the show,

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Speaker 1: but as we hit a halftime here on the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Red Sea Reports, when we come back, some more love

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Speaker 1: for those pass catchers, in particular one who hasn't been

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Speaker 1: talked a lot about this offseason. That's straight ahead Craig

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Speaker 1: Rayel Loup, Mike Jarecki, and Bertram Berry. It is the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Red Sea Report on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network.

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Speaker 1: Hurry back to throw, flushed out, rolling left in trouble,

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Speaker 1: slips a tackle, Gotta launch it. He does, left side

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Speaker 1: into the end zone, jump ball and it is Is

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Speaker 1: it caught? Is it caught? Oh my goodness, it's caught.

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00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins mought he caught it for a duckdown, but

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Speaker 1: one second lap I can't believe him. You gotta be

554
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Speaker 1: joking me. Hopkins reaches off with three dimensions around him.

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Speaker 1: Head polls it in head. The Cardinals lead at thirty

556
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Speaker 1: two to three. With a second lap, Chadcober goof, you're

557
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Speaker 1: not gonna be able with the Carver room throw the

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Speaker 1: fall off. Maybe the highlights of the season, all right,

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Speaker 1: not Maybe it was the highlights of the season, not

560
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: just the Cardinal season, but the entire NFL. And now

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Speaker 1: it is up for Play of the Year. As far

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Speaker 1: as the twenty twenty one SPS are concerned, the Hail Murray,

563
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Speaker 1: Kyle mur Murray, and Deander Hopkins as described there by

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Speaker 1: Day Patch and Ron Wolfley into the quarterfinals for Best

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Speaker 1: Play of twenty twenty one. They are now one of

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Speaker 1: eight eight finalists. If you will again this is a

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Speaker 1: fan vote Bird Gang, go to ESPN dot com slash SPS.

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Speaker 1: That's ESPN dot com slash SPS. It has already won

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Speaker 1: Clutch Play of the Year at NFL Honors back in February.

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Speaker 1: So the top sixteen plays across the board MJ now

571
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: whittled down to eights and Hill Murray in the quarterfinals.

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Speaker 1: As we pointed out on Cards Cover two, you can

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Speaker 1: vote early and often and it's really easy. And is

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Speaker 1: there another Cardinal play in there? Well, there is another

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Speaker 1: one kind of sort of on the other half of

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Speaker 1: the bracket, if you will, And it involves Buddha Baker

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Speaker 1: and a Seahawks wide receiver. And well we'll just leave

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Speaker 1: it at that. It certainly was a tremendous play on

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Speaker 1: dk metcast half. But yeah, it was. It was a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun. And well, bottom line is the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: well in that game, so it doesn't matter exactly the

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Speaker 1: end results of that. All right, let's continue here on

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals Red Siver part Craig Riel, Mike Jarecki and

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Speaker 1: Bertrand Berry. And speaking of DeAndre Hopkins on the receiving

585
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Speaker 1: end of the hill, Murray the wide receiver position certainly

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Speaker 1: I think be train. We expect a lot out of

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Speaker 1: that position year two in this system for Hopkins. AJ

588
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Speaker 1: Green is back, and Christian Kirk we haven't heard a

589
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Speaker 1: lot from him. Rondel Moore is the newest toy, if

590
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: you will, along with Green. But there is someone now

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Speaker 1: that we don't really know what's going on with, Larry Fitzgerald.

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Speaker 1: Christian Kirk is the veteran in that room at least

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Speaker 1: in terms of wearing a Cardinals uniform. And he is

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Speaker 1: a guy that has a lot to prove, and I'm

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Speaker 1: sure he's relishing the opportunity to go out there and

596
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Speaker 1: remind everybody that he was once upon a time a

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Speaker 1: big play receiver and he was brought out of takes

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Speaker 1: his nm to be that as well as a special

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Speaker 1: teamer for this team, and it is to have definitely

600
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: played a role in him not living up to the

601
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Speaker 1: expectations thus far. But I really believe that he put

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Speaker 1: in the work this offseason and he's gotten his body right,

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Speaker 1: and now it's just a matter of putting it all

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Speaker 1: together and being consistent out there and making plays when

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Speaker 1: his numbers called. And if he does that, then he

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Speaker 1: still has a lot of football left in him to

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Speaker 1: realize all the potential that was talked about in reference

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Speaker 1: to him coming out of college. Once again, it seems

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Speaker 1: like the keyword today's opportunity. I mean, he's in the

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Speaker 1: final year of verse contract, okay, and I follow him

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Speaker 1: on social media and he said I'm going to make

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Speaker 1: him pay. Now we'll see. He's got to stay healthy.

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Speaker 1: I think COVID did affect him, but he had as

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Speaker 1: many touchdowns as Hopkins last year obviously didn't have the targets,

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Speaker 1: didn't have the yardage, but the Cardinals could roll for

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Speaker 1: wide receivers out if they wanted to. I mean again,

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Speaker 1: he still want to protect the edges. But I think

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Speaker 1: Kristian Kirk knows, you know, by drafting rondel Morene, maybe

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Speaker 1: he'll have more of an impact on special teams, but

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Speaker 1: they're clearly going to get involved in the offense. The

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Speaker 1: jet sweeps, the bubble screens could line up in the slot.

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Speaker 1: Christian Kirk's a very good route runner. They said he

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Speaker 1: was too small, too slow, and we watched him get

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Speaker 1: seventy yard passes from Kyler Murray. There's a connection there.

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Speaker 1: He's just got to stay healthy and he's got to

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Speaker 1: be engaged, and if he does that, I think he's

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Speaker 1: gonna have a good year. Well, we saw him a

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Speaker 1: lot play in the slot last year, maybe without fits

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Speaker 1: being in the mix. And if AJ Green is that

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Speaker 1: other outside receiver, does Christian Kirk play that backup role

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Speaker 1: if you will to Aj Green unless you go four

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Speaker 1: wide and all of a sudden Kirk is in the

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Speaker 1: slot with Ron del Moore, I think you know you

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Speaker 1: got aj Green, he's an outside guy. And the way

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray's talking about him, he said people are falling

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Speaker 1: asleep on I'm paraphrasing, and that tells me he's got

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Speaker 1: a connection with him. Of course, they did work out

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Speaker 1: for a few days in Dallas, and you know, if

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Speaker 1: he gets forty five fifty catches, but he's going to

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Speaker 1: be your outside guy fifty fifty balls, and then I

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Speaker 1: think Keyshawn Johnson, you know, I think he's right now,

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Speaker 1: probably number five. He'll be your back up there and

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Speaker 1: then we'll see if they move Hopkins around. But they

644
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: could roll out four wide receivers if they choose to.

645
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: But again, I think a lot of eleven personnel and

646
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: then you can rotate Rondel Moore and Christian Kirk. Looking

647
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: at Kirk's numbers last season, b trained he was the

648
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: second most targeted wide receiver at seventy nine, and he

649
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: did have six touchdowns that tied DeAndre Hopkins for the

650
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: team lead. But there was certain parts of last season,

651
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: the start of the year and the end of the year,

652
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: in which Kirk kind of disappeared. He had a great

653
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: six game stretch between weeks five and eleven in which

654
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: he had five of his six touchdowns, but just one

655
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: touchdown in the seven other games he played, and whether

656
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: that was his faults, the scheme, or opposing defenses taking

657
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: him out of the game, there were several post games

658
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: in which we were wondering what happened or where was

659
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk on that particular Sunday, for sure, and only

660
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: he really knows what happened, why he had to fall

661
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: off in productivity, And I think he had plenty of

662
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: time to think about it. He had time to be

663
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: honest with himself and look himself in the mirror and say, Okay,

664
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Speaker 1: this is what I did wrong, and this is what

665
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: I want to have to do in order to make

666
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: sure that those things don't happen again. And I think

667
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: at this point he understands it's all on him. He's

668
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: betting on himself. He's got to go out and make

669
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: the plays, and it's just taking it step by step.

670
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: You can't think big picture, you can't think, Okay, I

671
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: got seventeen games. You take it day by day, week

672
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: by week, game by game, And if he's able to

673
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: take that approach and really minimize the pressure, then I

674
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: think he's going to have a really big season. I

675
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: don't know what the numbers are gonna look like, but

676
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: I think it'll be numbers that he's going to be

677
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 1: happy with. And he will indeed make the defenses pay

678
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: and then make the team that wants him for his

679
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: services pay as far as money is concerned. If I

680
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: recall he dropped two touchdowns, I know one was on

681
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 1: the goal line going into the end zone and another

682
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: one he was close, and so I mean maybe his

683
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: confidence was up because he normally makes those catches and

684
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 1: when you get down to the goal line, obviously you've

685
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: got to know you're going to take a hit trying

686
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: to get it in the end zone. But he did

687
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: drop the ball going into the end zone well close

688
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: to the end. And you look at his absence in

689
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: the final game, as he was on the reserve COVID

690
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: nineteen lists along with fits, and all of a sudden,

691
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: you know you have Christian Kirk out on that field.

692
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: Maybe that game is a little different. I mean, again,

693
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: there were a lot things that went wrong that afternoon

694
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, but beatran. You always say, you know,

695
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: your best ability is availability. Kirk did play fourteen games

696
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: last season, more than he had played the previous two years.

697
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: But to your point, you have to be able to

698
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 1: not only be available, but once you're available, do something

699
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: with that availability. You got to be able to impact

700
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 1: the game in some way. And as a receiver that's

701
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: catching the football and blocking and doing the things that

702
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 1: makes this offense successful and makes it go. And for

703
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: whatever reason, it just didn't work as consistent as consistently

704
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: as we would like for Christian Kirk. And I think

705
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: again he knows why, and as long as he's addressing

706
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: it and being a professional about it, and you see

707
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: a different Christian Kirk this year. I think everybody is

708
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: going to be happy with it, and everything that he

709
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: went through will all make sense when it's all said

710
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: and done, and I think he'll be a better man

711
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: for it. And I'm root for a former second round

712
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: draft pick, hometown kid playing for the hometown team MJ.

713
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: You root for guys like that. But here this offseason

714
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 1: with AJ Green in the mix, the drafting of Rondel Moore,

715
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: what do we always like? Well, you like what's new,

716
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: and the newest are green and more, and all of

717
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: a sudden, Yeah, Hopkins is going to be d D

718
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: hop We know about him. And then it's just well,

719
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: well there's Christian Kirk that maybe being in the shadows,

720
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: maybe not being talked a lot about maybe being off

721
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 1: the radar, if you will, will be good for Christian

722
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: Kirk this year. Well I remember us having this conversation,

723
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: was he one A or number two wide receiver? Now

724
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: now with the addition of a green and we'll wait

725
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: and see, because Ron del Moore has you had to

726
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 1: play a snap in the NFL. I'm excited with the upside.

727
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: But you know, we know that slot cornerbacks are just

728
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: as good as the second corner, but sometimes you may

729
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: draw the fourth cornerback and that's where you got to

730
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: get off press coverage and make those catches. So again,

731
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: I believe he has a chip on his shoulder. He

732
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,439
Speaker 1: knows what's at stake here and he's got seventeen games

733
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: to prove himself. Well. He can also make an impact

734
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: on special teams. I think that's going to be something

735
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: to pay attention to because I think the expectation is

736
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,919
Speaker 1: is that's rondel Moore, whether on kickoff or punt or both.

737
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: But Kirk does have that ability to be the return

738
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: guy on punts, which we've seen and you know, I

739
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: think you'll see I don't know if it's competition, but

740
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: I think both of those guys specifics specifically will be

741
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: given every opportunity to kind of win that job. Well,

742
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: we know he's going to be active on game day,

743
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: he plays on teams, but I think going in, I

744
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: think Ron del Moore is going to get a chance

745
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: to return punts and kickoffs, be trained. You like the

746
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: fact that maybe if you're not talked a lot about

747
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: and that's better, or if you're not being if you're

748
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: not being talked about, all of a sudden, you become forgotten,

749
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: and no one wants to be forgotten. I love it

750
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 1: when you sleep on me and then you just watch

751
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 1: me work, because then I can come back and I

752
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: can silence all the critics and all the naysayers. And

753
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: it's so much sweeter when when you go about it

754
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 1: that way than when you're boastfully talking and then you're

755
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: not able to deliver. So I think he's making the

756
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: right approach. Just watch me work, and he's gonna put

757
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: his head down, he's going to go to work, and

758
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: I think we're going to see great results. And as

759
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: we've all said, we're rooting for him. He's a hometown guy,

760
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: and I know all the Phoenix is going to be

761
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: rooting for Christian Kirk to have a big year twenty

762
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: twenty one. Put it this way, more people talking about

763
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: fans media have asked about a player not currently under

764
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: contracts that would be Larry Fitzgerald than a player who

765
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 1: is under contracting supposed to be a big part of

766
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: this offense, Christian Kirk. So we'll have to wait and seeing.

767
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,720
Speaker 1: Maybe it does slight of fire under the former Sorrel

768
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,640
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Speaker 1: the outside linebacker position and a new face in that room,

775
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: someone who Bertram Berry is going to be keeping a

776
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,319
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00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,800
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778
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: Demig Victor McGee was another guy that did adding a

779
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: big stick, strong outside linebacker. I was excited about he

780
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: started every single game he played in college, and he

781
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: was forty six forty seventh straight game. And Charlie Bullen

782
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: and I, Quinn Harris and I we went to the

783
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: pro day. The coaches start talking about this guy, and

784
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: you know, they just light up the kids all business

785
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: they see is the alpha the group. I would actually

786
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: use the word scary to describe them. So no one

787
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: message with the guy. See, you get that alpha personality

788
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: with the Duke degree. It's kind of rare. Six foot one,

789
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty two pounds The Cardinals sixth round

790
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: draft pick Victor d Mukage two hundred and tenth overall selection.

791
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 1: Drew Grigson there commenting on de Mukage on a recent

792
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: episode of The Big Red Rage with Paul Calbisi and

793
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: Ron Wolfley. Uh, you know, it's kind of reminds me

794
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: of you, b trained, you know, the alpha male, you

795
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: know you, but with the instead of a Duke degree,

796
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: it's a Notre Dame degree. Those one and the same. Here,

797
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: am I opening up a door that I probably shouldn't

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00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: open up? Oh yeah, you're opening the door wide open. Brother.

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Speaker 1: You know, we don't compare our degree to anybody else's

800
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Speaker 1: at much respect to Duke, but they're not Notre Dame,

801
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 1: that's for sure. I knew I was going to walk

802
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: into something there. By the way, as we've discussed here

803
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: on the Cardinals Red Sea reports, Dan Mukagi is wearing

804
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 1: number ninety two. B Tran has made it perfectly clear

805
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: and I heard it on last week's Big Red Rays.

806
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: They played the soundbites for Dan Mukaji that yes, you

807
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: have to not only look good, but you have to

808
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: play good. Don't be standing on the sidelines, to which

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00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: d Mukaji said quotes, I feel like I've got the

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00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: good looks already end quote. So he's got half of

811
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Speaker 1: it be train. Now he's got to prove the other half,

812
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: and that is being on the field, whether that special

813
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: teams or getting after quarterbacks. And that really starts with

814
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: just putting his head down and going to work. Rookies

815
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: are better seen and not heard that you don't want

816
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: to have guys that come in and protest too much.

817
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 1: You want those guys to just understand what their role is,

818
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: do their job and not hurt the team. And when

819
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: your job is done, then you go home. And if

820
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: he's got that nine two on. There should be good

821
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: things happening out there because that name and that number

822
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: should be one that brings a lot of success to

823
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: this organization. There's a lot of good men that have

824
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: warned that number and done some good things for this organization.

825
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 1: So he can't he can't lower that standard. He's got

826
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: to be able to hold it up. And I got

827
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: a lot of confidence in him. And uh, you know,

828
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: if he ever needs a few pointers, you already know

829
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,720
Speaker 1: where he needs to come. Well, when he was drafted,

830
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,959
Speaker 1: general manager Steve Khan said, he reminds us a little

831
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: bit of Marcus Golden. That high motor, someone who can

832
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: play with great leverage. According to the general manager, while

833
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 1: Dan McCage asked about that comp and well, he kind

834
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: of likes it. Marcus is going. He's a great player.

835
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: That's actually one of the guys I've been around, um

836
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: through our ops and mini camp. You know, I've learned

837
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: a lot from him. Um, he's a great leader, and

838
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: I actually like knew about him when he was coming

839
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: out of college. Um, I've watched a lot of them,

840
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: and he's a great player. He plays with a lot

841
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: of effort. Um. You know, it's like he's like he's

842
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: a guy that you respect. When you put on the stape,

843
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 1: you see one hundred percent effort. You see that motor,

844
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: you see it relentlessness, and um, you know that's that's

845
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 1: a great comparison. Just learning from him, trying to get

846
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: as much knowledge as I can from him. You know,

847
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: that would take me a long way. And that learning

848
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,959
Speaker 1: and that connection MJ has already happened. I mean, those

849
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: two have been together now through Outa's and Mini camp

850
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: and it sounds like during that interview on the Big

851
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: Red Rage that Marcus Golden has taken young Victor under

852
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: his wing. And listen, if you follow Marcus Golding around

853
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: and you're gonna learn a lot. You know, we always

854
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: look at the energy and the passion, but he knows football.

855
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: He knows how to attack the quarterback. Now, Beach, when

856
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Speaker 1: you take a look at Victor from a standpoint of

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Speaker 1: do you think he could put his hand the dirt

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Speaker 1: to see more of an outside linebacker? He can do both.

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Speaker 1: He could be the versatile type of player, and there's

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Speaker 1: nothing wrong with being a tweener. That means that you

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Speaker 1: can do a lot of different things. I remember in

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Speaker 1: Elvis Duomerville back in the day guy that was wearing

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Speaker 1: the number ninety two and did some things. Wasn't the

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Speaker 1: biggest guy in the world, but his play spoke big.

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Speaker 1: And I think for Victor he's gonna have that same opportunity.

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Speaker 1: If he's willing to put in the word and be

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Speaker 1: tedious about the details and being an effective player, then

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Speaker 1: I think it doesn't matter what you ask him to do,

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Speaker 1: He's going to have an opportunity to be successful. He's

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Speaker 1: a smart guy. He's going to pick up one things

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Speaker 1: rather quickly and then it's just a matter of if

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Speaker 1: he's given that type of energy and effort, then only

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Speaker 1: good things will come. As way smart doesn't begin to describe.

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Speaker 1: It's a degree in evolutionary anthropology from Duke in addition

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Speaker 1: to a four year starter at Duke Cardinals duelism as

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Speaker 1: an outside landbacker six two two sixty five and he's

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Speaker 1: only twenty one years old. A young Bertram Barry is

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Speaker 1: what we hope to see out of Victor D McCage.

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Speaker 1: How about that beatrain? You like the sound of that?

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Speaker 1: I love the side of that, And you know what,

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Speaker 1: I want to know, what the hell does that degree me?

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Speaker 1: Because that sounds like two big words that I had

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Speaker 1: never really heard put together. So I'm definitely intrigued by

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Speaker 1: this young man. Let's get an answer to that maybe

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Speaker 1: next week special Thanks for those behind the scenes, Jim Mohendro,

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