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Speaker 1: The John Annik and Kenny Florian Podcast. John Annick and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: I love them. I can't get enough of them. That

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Speaker 2: of absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 1: You're your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: Good Sunday morning, tuya if you are in the United

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Speaker 3: States of America, where it is Sunday, August eleventh, The

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Speaker 3: year is twenty twenty four. It's episode five oh five

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Speaker 3: of the Anak Florian Podcast Live and then Color on

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Speaker 3: a Sunday and breaking news off the top not of

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Speaker 3: the Mixed Martial Arts Variety. But it looks to me

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Speaker 3: as though Kenny Floran has a brand new microphone on

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Speaker 3: a fucking mic arm and it looks fantastic. Man, you

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Speaker 3: must be uh, you must be very excited about this

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Speaker 3: experience today.

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Speaker 4: What gives Well, I can actually hear you through my

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Speaker 4: left ear now like the other setup. First of all,

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Speaker 4: I was getting complaints on it on audio, and uh

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Speaker 4: so there was that I wasn't able to hear out

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Speaker 4: of my left ear for like a year. So I figured,

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Speaker 4: you know what, maybe I should get a better setup

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Speaker 4: so it me better And so I can actually hear

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Speaker 4: you and hear myself, which I don't really love to

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Speaker 4: do to be candid, but I can actually finally hear

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying in both ears.

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Speaker 2: So that's that's that's a plus. It's great.

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Speaker 3: And you have a nice smile and you don't have

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Speaker 3: that microphone necessarily in front of your face all the time,

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Speaker 3: so that is great as well.

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Speaker 2: Thank you all for being with us live.

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Speaker 3: Thank you all for supporting this program that for a

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Speaker 3: second straight year was nominated in the MMA Programming category

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Speaker 3: for a World MMA Award. So thank everybody for supporting

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Speaker 2: Blow Muhammad I should mention as well.

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Speaker 3: You know this is a nomination for him as well,

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Speaker 3: now a lot coming up today. This is our full

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Speaker 3: fledged UFC three oh five preview with predictions Ken Flow

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Speaker 2: You're going to give you eight picks Today.

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Speaker 3: We will also be joined by Severe MMA and sure

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Speaker 3: Dog dot COM's Sean Shean. We haven't spoken with him

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Speaker 3: in a while, so we want to get to some

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Speaker 3: of the performers at UFC three oh four with him

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Speaker 3: and also see if there's anything on the judging scoring

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Speaker 3: commentary front of late that is worthy of a mention.

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Speaker 3: We will also talk to Aaron Bronsteedter, nominated for MMA

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Speaker 3: Journalists of the Year, and Ray Longo potentially, but I

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Speaker 3: think he's in the air right now. And uh, it's

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Speaker 3: not a celebration Monday for Earth Sunday, I should say

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Speaker 3: for Ray Longo, so perhaps he is h he's skipping

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Speaker 3: the program today, All right, headlines brought to you by

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Speaker 3: quer Vote. Now's a good time to enjoy the tequila

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Speaker 3: that invented tequila. So Kenny, not that many hours have

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Speaker 3: evaporated since UFC Fight Night to Bora versus Spivoc two.

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Speaker 2: What a forgetable UFC fight. I know I'm not going

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Speaker 3: I'm not, But for the first time of the history

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Speaker 3: of the Anak and Florian podcast, I think I publicly

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Speaker 3: softly denigrated a fight card. For the first time that

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Speaker 3: lot of my Saturday night I was watching with one

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Speaker 3: eye until Chepe machine Gun Mota Skull. Yes, a weight

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Speaker 3: So a lot of different things that we need to

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Speaker 3: get to, certainly Sergey Spivak's performance in the main event,

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Speaker 3: But because I produced this show, I am going to

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Speaker 3: lead with Chepe modaeskall and what an outstanding fight it

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Speaker 3: in defeat, of course, but in the nature of not

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Speaker 3: burying the lead can flow. Chepe Modaskal weighed in at

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Speaker 3: Felder and a lot of fighters have next to no

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Speaker 4: Great look, right, and you know this is the first

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Speaker 2: However, I think that styles.

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Speaker 4: Make fights and this was not a great style matchup

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Speaker 4: to make that weight can give you the advantage. But again,

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Speaker 4: given his takedown prowess, his consistency with his ground and pound,

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Speaker 4: all the time. That was on full display throughout the

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Speaker 3: So you never missed weight, and I think in some

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Speaker 2: But Kenny Florian never missed weight.

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Speaker 3: And in the court of public opinion, this is gonna

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Speaker 3: be somewhat of a scarlet letter for Chepe Modaskal, in

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Speaker 3: But I don't think Kenny, that this was necessarily with

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Speaker 2: So I do feel like he owned it.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know to what extent we should actually

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Speaker 3: I just really like Chepe Modiscal who had to fight

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's gonna get in your face, and like I said,

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Speaker 3: So to be able to perform the way Chepe Modeskal

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Speaker 2: Ken fill. What'd you think about Sergei Spivok with that

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Speaker 2: Sergei looked great.

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Speaker 4: He came in, I thought, leaner than I've seen him

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Speaker 2: I think that aided in his mobility, It aided in.

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Speaker 4: His speed, and that was certainly on display from the

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Speaker 4: I don't think he respected that submission game from Spivak

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Speaker 4: The fluidity, the speed in which he got underneath his

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Speaker 3: absolute marauder in the newly minted King. His budding rival,

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Speaker 3: South Africa's Dreak is dupleus C. Now I just wrote

437
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Speaker 3: that shit in five minutes. I may lead with duples C, right,

438
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Speaker 3: So I would encourage a lot of you to think

439
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Speaker 3: about do you want to lead with champion or challenger?

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Speaker 3: And what about this intense rivalry do you want to

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Speaker 3: bring to the forefront. So that was just an example

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Speaker 3: of length and something that you could do. But that's

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Speaker 3: not necessarily the direction in which I'm going to go.

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Speaker 3: So the Google form will be out there and maybe

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Speaker 3: ken Fow will win the contest.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully not.

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Speaker 3: Actually that's awesome, Well, thank you all right, So I

448
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Speaker 3: want to get that out there. Also, Josh Coolibau is

449
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Speaker 3: the best beer chugger on the UFC roster. There's a

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Speaker 3: video of him with Justin Gaetge and Junior Tafa, who

451
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Speaker 3: also competes on this card, chugging beers in Australia. So

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Speaker 3: when we get to the main event challenge today, I

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Speaker 3: don't have any beer, but I will be And.

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Speaker 2: This stuff is trash. I shouldn't say that if they

455
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Speaker 2: maybe want to sponsor the show. But it's white claw

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Speaker 2: hard Seltzer.

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Speaker 3: I bought it because it was five percent alcohol instead

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Speaker 3: of the traditional four and a half for some of

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Speaker 3: these hard Seltzers. So basically, I am going to be

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Speaker 3: chugging a white class white claw. I haven't had it

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Speaker 3: yet yet, white class. I'm gonna be chugging a white

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Speaker 3: claw hard Seltzer in honor of Josh Kolabau, the best

463
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Speaker 3: beer chugger in the UFC. Later, when we get to

464
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Speaker 3: the main event challenge, we're gonna get a little bit

465
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Speaker 3: lathered here in the am on a Sunday, so Sergey Spivak,

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Speaker 3: we discussed him. Danny Barlow gets by Nikolai ver tenakob

467
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Speaker 3: by split decision. Dissenting judge had a thirty twenty seven

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Speaker 3: can flow. And while I don't agree with that, you know,

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Speaker 3: I did feel like maybe the commentary team got too

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Speaker 3: tied up in the narrative that Vera Tenakov wasn't doing

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Speaker 3: enough when maybe left handed god Danny Barlow wasn't always

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Speaker 3: doing a ton And I did feel as though Vera Tenakov,

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Speaker 3: while I don't believe he won the fight, landed consequential

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Speaker 3: shots that weren't necessarily verbally acknowledged. So anything for us

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Speaker 3: on what was a featured about on that UFC fight

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Speaker 3: out at the Apex over the weekend.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I think that's fair. I definitely agree with

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Speaker 4: that assessment. I think that Vera Tennakoff was you know,

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Speaker 4: he was in the fight. I don't think he was

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Speaker 4: maybe as busy as Barlow. And you know, it's tough

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Speaker 4: because Barlow just looks good moving around and his opponent

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Speaker 4: didn't kind of move with that same level of athleticism

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Speaker 4: I think, and sometimes you get a little biased to that,

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Speaker 4: and you know, but yeah, how Jaron Villell had that

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Speaker 4: thirty twenty seven for ver Tennakoff, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I oh, that was our friend Jaron Villel.

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Speaker 4: Huh, yeah, yeah, it wasn't wasn't quite so accurate in

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Speaker 4: my opinion. But you know, I think Barlow, I think

489
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Speaker 4: definitely could have been busier as well.

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Speaker 2: I think he was a little hesitant at times.

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Speaker 4: He was a little unsure as to how to get

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Speaker 4: into punching range and then get back out. But I

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Speaker 4: thought he did that better than his opponent and certainly

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Speaker 4: should have won, and this is one of those fights

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Speaker 4: that I think you're gonna learn from, and I think

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Speaker 4: very Tennakoff is is tougher than a lot of people

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Speaker 4: give him credit for.

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Speaker 2: Anything else.

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Speaker 3: On this UFC fight night, Chris Gutierrez over Qwang Lee

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Speaker 3: by unanimous decision. Certainly, I think a lot of people

501
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Speaker 3: felt like maybe he could have done more with that showcase,

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Speaker 3: but a green stripe is a green stripe. Jonna Santos

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Speaker 3: and Chelsea Chandler, I was distracted. I don't know what

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Speaker 3: I was doing during that fight, but I can't say

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Speaker 3: that I could bring any analysis to it. And as

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Speaker 3: far as Longo's Guy had as grigor you ken flow,

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Speaker 3: he loses by submission to Toshiomi Kazama in a fight

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Speaker 3: that was added to the main card, And this fight

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Speaker 3: had a lot to it, a lot of elbows ken

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Speaker 3: flow style, but ultimately it's a loss for Longo's guy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I mean, he was looking so good in

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Speaker 4: round two. He landed a great shot that dropped him.

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Speaker 4: He decided to follow up and was landing some nasty

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Speaker 4: ground and pound, but Yeah, ended up succumbing to a

515
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Speaker 4: beautiful triangle on the ground to a guy who I

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Speaker 4: thought he probably should have beaten, and that's unfortunate, you know,

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Speaker 4: that's really unfortunate. The Japanese fighter was was zero to two,

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Speaker 4: two knockouts, that looked like he was gonna it was

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Speaker 4: gonna be a third straight knockout or TKO loss, and

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Speaker 4: I think people forgot how good he is on the ground,

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Speaker 4: and that's exactly what the difference was. There a nice

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Speaker 4: triangle again, that was the other mission from Guard. Again

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Speaker 4: a rare thing. You don't see a whole lot of

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Speaker 4: triangles set up from Guard in MMA period, let alone

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Speaker 4: at the highest level in the UFC, so nice to

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Speaker 4: see there.

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Speaker 3: Paul Felder did caution right before had a lampost land

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Speaker 3: of the consequential shot that he might need to settle

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Speaker 3: down and not gas himself out, and that's exactly what happened.

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Speaker 3: He was an elbow away from winning this fight by TKO.

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Speaker 3: And I did think there was maybe one window where

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Speaker 3: Jason Herzog considered stepping in. It's such a fine line

533
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Speaker 3: for these referees, and then maybe the narrative changes. But

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Speaker 3: you know, submission defense, as far as I was concerned,

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Speaker 3: left something to be desired. And this is a guy

536
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Speaker 3: that you know you gotta beat right, And that's not

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Speaker 3: something that I wouldn't say Tolongo if he wasn't here today.

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Speaker 3: I was actually rooting for the Japanese guy. You say,

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Speaker 3: it's unfortunate I'm sitting here rooting against Longos guys. I'm

540
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Speaker 3: such an asshole.

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Speaker 2: Do you think I'm a bad guy?

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Speaker 3: I mean, certainly, if you and I had a show

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Speaker 3: like DC and Shale and it was called good guy,

544
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Speaker 3: bad guy, obviously you'd be the fucking good guy, right,

545
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Speaker 3: Like that goes without saying, even though maybe you do

546
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 3: have a dark side that people aren't aware of. And

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00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 3: when I was actually doing a video, Kenny, sorry to

548
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 3: be long winded. I was doing a video for odd

549
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 3: Shark recently about the meanest fighters in UFC history, and

550
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Speaker 3: my co host Ethan wrote to me on social media

551
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 3: after the fact that I that I left you out

552
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 3: because you were a nasty prick. But no, like DC

553
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 3: and Shale, right, good guy bad guy, like two bad guys, right,

554
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 3: but one has to be the good guy. You know,

555
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Speaker 3: I don't think I'm a bad guy if I root

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Speaker 3: against Longos guys.

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Speaker 4: No, you like it. You like giving your buddy shit,

558
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 4: especially Ray long Yeah, New York. Yeah, and I love it.

559
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 2: I'm here for yeah.

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Speaker 3: And the more his guys lose, the more shit I

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Speaker 3: can give him and those cronies that go by the

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Speaker 3: uh the minute men fucking fast forwarding to his segment

563
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Speaker 3: that incidentally doesn't exist here on the five hundred and

564
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Speaker 3: fifth iteration of the Anakin Florin podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 3: Everybody, relaxed, all right, We're gonna go to the guest

567
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Speaker 3: line right now, bring on one of my favorite men

568
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Speaker 3: in the mixed martial arts space, MMA journalist podcast host

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Speaker 3: personality Severe MMA. He hosts the Severe MMA podcast also

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Speaker 3: The Shean Show on sher dog dot Com. Sean Sheen

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Speaker 3: is back with us double less. It's been a while,

572
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Speaker 3: my man. How we feeling good now?

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Speaker 2: Can't complain? Can't complain?

574
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Speaker 5: We were coming up to a good week in the

575
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Speaker 5: world of mixed martial arts and whenever that happens, it's

576
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Speaker 5: always it's always fun because you know some of them.

577
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: Aren Dov was great. But when we get to it, yeah,

578
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Speaker 2: so here we go. I just love European accents. I

579
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Speaker 2: really like enjoying to you.

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Speaker 3: I enjoy listening to you talk much more than say

581
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Speaker 3: the average Americans, so appreciating the dulcet tones here of

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Speaker 3: Sean she and you're wearing a Baltimore Ravens T shirt.

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Speaker 2: I see, yeah, I am.

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Speaker 5: I just bought a lot of T shirts about twenty

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Speaker 5: years twenty years ago now to maybe about ten years

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Speaker 5: ago off of like the NFL website, so I ordered

587
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Speaker 5: him from that time, there was no NFL Europe website.

588
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Speaker 5: So I bought him from America and they took literally

589
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Speaker 5: about I don't know, three months coming and I emailed

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Speaker 5: them and like.

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Speaker 2: Where are my T shirts? And they rang me from America.

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00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 5: I was like, these T shirts are not coming, and

593
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Speaker 5: they're like, okay, we'll send them again. The next day

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Speaker 5: of my T shirts arrived and then I rang them

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Speaker 5: back and they said, uh. I was just cancel as

596
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 5: they came and they were like, we've out and they

597
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 5: were like, you can just send them back to us.

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Speaker 5: So I'm like, I ordered like ten T shirts that will.

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Speaker 2: Cost a bomb.

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Speaker 5: I was like, I'm not sitting the MAAC. You can

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Speaker 5: come and collect them. So I have two of all

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00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 5: these T shirts. So I have two of his T shirts.

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Speaker 5: I have two of them A green Backers shirts.

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Speaker 2: I have a load of them.

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Speaker 5: So that's why if you ever see me wearing NFL

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00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 5: T shirts, that's why I have just two of nice.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: I just need to send him some Anican Florian podcast merchandise.

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00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 3: I think maybe some New England Patriots stuff. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 3: I know you got some. We got a one more

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Speaker 3: sleep Irish flag out there right now. Anyway, Sean, we

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00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 3: got a lot of things to get into with you now.

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Speaker 3: Our UFC three oh five recap show is going to

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Speaker 3: be Tuesday, August twentieth, and scheduled to join us on

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Speaker 3: that episode is the Welsh gangster Ben Ellie At, a

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Speaker 3: kid that I think a lot of us on the

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Speaker 3: commentary side of things, me and Michael Bisbee have really

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Speaker 3: fallen in love with for more reasons than one. He

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Speaker 3: Christian Leroy Duncan, a couple guys that you obviously have

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Speaker 3: tracked closely. Both competed not all that long ago at

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Speaker 3: UFC three to zero four. So I guess I just

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Speaker 3: wanted to start there if I could, and see what

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Speaker 3: you thought out of those two performances.

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Speaker 5: Well, for I suppose, first to a man, he's a

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Speaker 5: guy I've watched since literally second fight. He's second fight

626
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Speaker 5: was in cage Wires and I remember watching that day.

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Speaker 5: It was actually the day Jack Shaw fought for the

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Speaker 5: titleand he's a teammate of Jack Show and he stood out,

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Speaker 5: you know, he just looked so clean and crisp that

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Speaker 5: day that he was one that I immediately and I

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Speaker 5: have the tweet up there like this is a guy

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Speaker 5: to watch out for in the future.

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Speaker 2: Now, it's not that simple.

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Speaker 5: You know, your two fights into your career, you have

635
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Speaker 5: to learn, you have to do a lot of different things.

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Speaker 5: When he was very young in his career, he fought

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Speaker 5: Mac sorry Mike Figlak, who was in the UFC at

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Speaker 5: the moment.

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Speaker 2: He thought matters for the men.

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Speaker 5: As anyone who knows the Europeans see knows matters to

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Speaker 5: him in as one of the best tests.

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Speaker 2: And he lost both of those fights.

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Speaker 5: But he came back from me when I've spoken to

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Speaker 5: him many times and he spoke especially about the Flaminas fight.

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Speaker 5: A lot of people wrote him off after, like, oh,

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Speaker 5: he's a great prospect, but he, you know, got took

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Speaker 5: a step up and he couldn't handle it and he

648
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Speaker 5: had to come back from that. And that's kind of

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Speaker 5: the story of Oban's whole life. You know, his father

650
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Speaker 5: passed away when he was younger as well, and he's

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Speaker 5: spoken to me very emotionally about like doing it for

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Speaker 5: you know, his his mother and you know they you know,

653
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 5: they had no money. He was working and literally working

654
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 5: on the railways, you know, like something from the night

655
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 5: Sees or something. Yeah, it's absolute matters. But I spoke

656
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 5: to him the last time in before this fight, and

657
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 5: he said, I'm I'm doing it for myself. Now you

658
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 5: know I've got there, I earned it, and I'm doing

659
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 5: it for myself. And I think you saw that in

660
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 5: this performance. It was a different start of performance. He

661
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 5: added in bits and pieces of everything. And you look,

662
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 5: you look at Oban, right, and some people might look

663
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 5: at one fight and think he's a boxer. Some people

664
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 5: might look at another fight and think he's a wrestler.

665
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 5: I think this was the first one. He put it

666
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 5: all together to take down the fence in this the

667
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 5: sharpness of the strike and it was all there. And

668
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 5: I think for Oban, with good matchmaking, he's a guy.

669
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 5: He's a guy who needs five or six more fights

670
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 5: I think at this level to move on to another level,

671
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 5: to move on to another level. But the ceiling is

672
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 5: high for him. He's like he has he has the

673
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 5: head for it, he has yahty and it's just about

674
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 5: all putting it together.

675
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 3: I think for Evan Hey, before you get to CEELD,

676
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 3: I just want to chime in because Preston Parsons is

677
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 3: no picnic, right, Oban Elliott was an underdog in this setting.

678
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 3: I know Ken Flow and others liked Parsons in that

679
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 3: particular spot, but you're absolutely right. The mental the ability

680
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 3: to maximize his microphone time as well in a way

681
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 3: that doesn't come across as arrogance. So I'm with you

682
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 3: on Oban Elliott, and I think our audience will be

683
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 3: excited to hear from him next week when we get

684
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 3: back from Perth, Western Australia. What about Christian Leroy Duncan

685
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 3: obviously a difficult fight. I still think Gregory Rodriguez is

686
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 3: underrated what he had for us on CLD.

687
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 5: I couldn't agree more about Gregory Rodriguez. Honestly, I don't

688
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 5: know if he's ranked at the moment, but I think

689
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 5: he should be and I think he is a guy

690
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 5: who can go on in that division. I just think

691
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 5: it's all a little bit too early for Christian Lee,

692
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 5: I don't feel like maybe myself and a few other

693
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 5: people got a little bit carried away when he was

694
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 5: engaged where because he looked so good.

695
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 2: But I again, I think he is a guy.

696
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 5: I'd even argue maybe he is a higher ceiling than know,

697
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 5: be An Elliott, because he's in, you know, a lighter

698
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 5: division in terms of the quality and like his level

699
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 5: of ability and athleticism, if you can just harness that.

700
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 5: I always go back to half helds Angeles like he

701
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 5: was a good fighter for a lot of years and

702
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 5: then it was all kind of hardness where Mma Kings

703
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 5: went that wasn't I just brought him to that next

704
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 5: level and he became a champion. Now, Ken Christiani, I

705
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 5: don't can do that. Well, we'll see in a few years.

706
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 5: But I know over the last year or so he's

707
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 5: gone up and he's trained with the Edwards brothers and

708
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 5: that's going to help him.

709
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 2: But I just.

710
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 5: Especially the Gregory Rodrigaz fight, I just think it was

711
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 5: a step too quickly. Again, he's a guy who needs years.

712
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 5: When he came into the UFC, I'm just you know,

713
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 5: I'm just looking at it here. What was he like

714
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 5: nine fights into his career something like that said, seven

715
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 5: fights into his career, and that's a problem with a

716
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 5: lot of these guys. Now they're getting signed very very

717
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 5: There's another guy coming up in the Denawak and in

718
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 5: the series this week, Lonier Kavanah Lanny Kavanaugh.

719
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 2: This guy is unbelievable.

720
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 5: He's won twenty five or he'd beat Sean the Silva

721
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 5: and his last fight. But still I think he's on

722
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 5: like five six fights into his career. This guy's only

723
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 5: twenty two, twenty three years of age. I I I

724
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 5: could like championship level. I could see this guy, but

725
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 5: it's very early. Like if his next fight is in

726
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 5: the UFC, you put him into that one twenty five division,

727
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 5: where does he go? I think the same thing kind

728
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 5: of happened with Christian le Right, Duncan and especially you know,

729
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 5: it's funny because he lost one against Armon Petrosian, tough fight,

730
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 5: you'd almost forget. He won twice and then he's you know,

731
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 5: almost the same mistake was made again where they're giving

732
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 5: him another tough matchup. Now you can't match these guys

733
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 5: easy because you know when they have that quality, when

734
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 5: they have that ability. But at the same time, I

735
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 5: think a little bit more patience is needed. I think

736
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 5: over the next three or four fights, I think with

737
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 5: Christian and Dunkle. But again, I wouldn't rule him out

738
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 5: like a tin stap And sometimes we see a guy

739
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 5: lose and think he's no good.

740
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 2: Don't do that with Christian here. I don't think he

741
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 2: still has a high ceiling.

742
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely agree, man Sean, we have a new

743
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 4: new chap in the welterweight division. Uh Ian Gary fought

744
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 4: not too long ago, had a tough fight against m VP.

745
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 4: What did you make of his performance and how do

746
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 4: you see him matching up against someone like Belot.

747
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 2: It's an interesting one because the MVP.

748
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 5: But obviously, look, it wasn't the best fight in the

749
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 5: world or anything like that. And it's funny the you know,

750
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 5: dena white headed afterwards. He knew it wasn't going to

751
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 5: be the best fight in the world, and they moved that.

752
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 5: You know, it's placement, and on the card it was. Look,

753
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 5: it was a good win. I think there's a couple

754
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 5: of different lines of thoughts on that fight, especially m VP.

755
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 5: Is this is a guy that people they'll overhead, they

756
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 5: under it, Are they over it maybe? And it's very

757
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 5: hard to get a real gate. I think MVP is

758
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 5: a very very very good fighter and a tricky fighter.

759
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 5: He's only lost the really good guys. No, he hasn't

760
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 5: fought everyone in the world. But I have a lot

761
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 5: of respect for MVP in the way he fights and

762
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 5: the goin and put on the performance like Ian Gary

763
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 5: did the patient performance and get the win. And I

764
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 5: know people talked about the decision as well. I thought

765
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 5: it was a pretty straightforward decision, so there's no doubt

766
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 5: about who who won that fight in my In my opinion,

767
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 5: I thought it was very good. I think the thing

768
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 5: the thing with Ian and where he is in the

769
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 5: division at the moment, it's funny the Wealth Wet division

770
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 5: as a whole. It's so good inside and outside of

771
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 5: the UFC. It's like it's unbelievable. And Shmil Mussaia fight

772
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 5: next week in PFL. This guy is unbelievable. Maga made

773
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 5: karamv Ramazan Coura Magametov over in Bellatre, and then we

774
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 5: have obviously Balal, we still have Leander Kamara Usman. You

775
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 5: know the likes of Sean Brady and Garyan Shavkat as well,

776
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 5: it's just unbelievable. And I was just I went last

777
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 5: night and I watched uh some of Shavkat, some of

778
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 5: I and some of balal They're all very different types

779
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 5: of fighters and they all match up very differently. I

780
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 5: tweeted last week that I never thought Lean Edwards will

781
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 5: be a long term champion, and I think maybe I

782
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 5: feel the same way about Balal, right, but it's gonna

783
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 5: be tough to beat him because he's a winner. And

784
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 5: balal Is is a guy who has spent the last

785
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 5: few years becoming a winner. Feels like he's put evering

786
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 5: into it, you know, training would have been becoming the

787
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 5: type of guy that you know, on any given day

788
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 5: he will turn up and have a game plan for you.

789
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 2: That is just disastrous for you.

790
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,439
Speaker 5: I've went back and watching the first ly On Edwards

791
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 5: fight and I was like, there's no way Balkam win

792
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 5: this fight. After the way Leon came out and he

793
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 5: took the middle of the center of the cage, he

794
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 5: couldn't get his wrest and going like b needs to

795
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 5: go forward, take you know, and the way he changed

796
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 5: at the second his fight started. He pushed Lean back,

797
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 5: he picked him up and took him now it was.

798
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 5: It was unbelievable the way and I thought, I think

799
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 5: Luke Thomas talked about we spoke on the podcast as well,

800
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 5: the way he changed. You know, coming into the fight,

801
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 5: we're thinking, how can he change like the intries or

802
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 5: you know, how is he going to get the takedown? Well,

803
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 5: what he did was pick him up and put him down. Basically,

804
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 5: It's what he did Rod and go in and going

805
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 5: down and try to take him down, and it worked.

806
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 5: The tree that worked so well because we saw Leon

807
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 5: Edwards the first time he or the second time, well

808
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 5: was the third time, I don't know when he thought

809
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 5: that ousman. Yeah, the third time he was like letting

810
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 5: him take him down almost and then the fending to

811
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 5: stand back up against the gauge.

812
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 2: But I'll prayed on that. He right praying on that,

813
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 2: and he did so well.

814
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 6: So like.

815
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 5: I'm sure Balad will look at the Ingary and say,

816
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 5: well I can do this this and this, and the

817
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 5: Gary look at Balal and say, look, if I can

818
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 5: keep this fight on the feet, use my job and

819
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 5: all that, it's it's going to be real tough for

820
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 5: a battle. I think there's there's two ways looking at

821
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 5: this right from the two contenders in my opinion, shaft

822
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 5: Cat and e Gary. Watching back shaft Gut like you

823
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 5: look okay, you look at the Gary and he tries

824
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 5: to be the perfect fighter. He tries to go behind

825
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 5: his job. He tries to not get hit. He tries

826
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 5: to dominate the fight. He tries to win thirty twenty

827
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 5: seven fifty forty five. Schafcat is not that Shaffcat will

828
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 5: get hit. Look, I watched that Jeff Neil fight last night.

829
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 5: Jeff Neil could have knocked him out. He ate him

830
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 5: so many times it was it was absolutely ridiculous.

831
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 2: But Shaffcat still dominated him and went in and just

832
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 2: ran through him.

833
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 5: He will give you hell while giving you hope as

834
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 5: well at the same time. Against Seeing Gary, he won't

835
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 5: do that. He will just take you apart. But if

836
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 5: you are to beating Gary, I think you also have

837
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 5: to take him apart. You can't. You can't allow him

838
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 5: to get into his rhythm. You can't allow him to

839
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 5: get in the end of the job. You can't allow

840
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 5: him to dominate. And Balal is perfect for that. That's

841
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 5: what he does to guys. But can he do it

842
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 5: against Seeing Gary. I suppose we'll see you know, I

843
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 5: see some people and I see Cody saying it there

844
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 5: about being Gary against Leaneanwards.

845
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 2: Are gimme and Gary.

846
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 5: I'm bit biased, right, but gimme and Gary versus Bladamhammond

847
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 5: right now? Give me that fight, right I'd absolutely love

848
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 5: to see that fight right now. I know shaf Cut

849
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 5: is there as well, and I wouldn't you know, that's

850
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 5: probably the fight that will get made, but I'd love

851
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 5: to seeing Gary versus Bladiamahammad right now.

852
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 2: So is it safe to say you think I Gary is.

853
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 4: The tougher matchup for Baal or do you think shave

854
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 4: Cut is.

855
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 2: I don't know what. To be honest, I don't I

856
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 2: will if you need.

857
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 3: To send Sean one welterweight in there to save a

858
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 3: dog's life against Allow Muhammed, I'm sending Leon.

859
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 2: Edwards in there? Who are you sending in there? Leon Edwards?

860
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 2: After just what happened?

861
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I still believe when I looked at those

862
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 3: grappling situations, even in this fight against Balal, the fighter

863
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 3: and the grappler who was stronger and able to reverse

864
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 3: the other party was Leon Edwards. I just felt like

865
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 3: it was a listless performance. I'm certainly not going to

866
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 3: lean into the five forty five am start time as

867
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Speaker 3: any sort of factor, because to your point, Balal is

868
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 3: the ultimate competitor and he's a winner, and you're gonna

869
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 3: have to beat him, whether.

870
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 2: It's you know, at five am or otherwise.

871
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 3: But yes, I would send Leon a not shot cot

872
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 3: or ian in there if I had to save a dog's.

873
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 5: Life shop it's fair because the first thing I tweaded

874
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 5: afterward was like Leon Edwards did not look himself. Now

875
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 5: is that him not looking at himself because it was

876
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 5: the timer, because he had the flu or because he

877
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 5: had an injury, or is he just you know, he

878
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 5: became the champion. You know, we spoke about it when

879
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 5: he became the champion, or like you get thirty percent better,

880
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 5: but there's also a time when you become the champion

881
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 5: and you get a lot of money and you know,

882
00:40:58,880 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 5: maybe you.

883
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 2: Could come to thirty percent. Has that happened to him now?

884
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 2: Maybe not?

885
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 5: And maybe this last will drive him back on again,

886
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 5: But I don't know. Well, if i'd to sin in

887
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 5: one weather in the world, it'll probably be Shimi and

888
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 5: Massiah because I think he's unbelievable. I'd send any and Gary.

889
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 5: To be honest, I like I think he and I

890
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 5: think he can be pople you know, I think he

891
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 5: can beat all of them.

892
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 2: To be honest, I think he's very good. Well sometimes right.

893
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 5: We look at shav Cat and his name is Chavcat Rackman,

894
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 5: he's the next Shamaiav.

895
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 2: You know he is.

896
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 5: I mean he don't actually look at the fighter himself

897
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 5: and look at the flaws in there as well. He like,

898
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 5: he is a flawed fighter, cheft gut more than any

899
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 5: of the rest of them. And that might be a

900
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 5: weird thing for people listening to say, but go and

901
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 5: watch him.

902
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 2: He's also probably.

903
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 5: The most dangerous of all the fighters at the same time,

904
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:48,240
Speaker 5: but I think there's ways. I also don't think Chavcat's

905
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 5: wrestling as good as people max out. I think he's

906
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 5: a better striker and he's just a jugger not I

907
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 5: look at Schaffcat more as like a gay cheer or

908
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 5: something like that, a really exciting fighter rather than the technician.

909
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 5: But you know, when you're Balal and you are a

910
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 5: technician but also like a tactical technician, I think he

911
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 5: would look Ballad would look at someone like Shavkat, and

912
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 5: there's a lot of mistakes for him to look at

913
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 5: in the tape to pray on. Yeah, when you we

914
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 5: look at Bala's last performance, I think that's it's not

915
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 5: a good matchup. Shavkat is not a good matchup for anyone,

916
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 5: which is that Blal will see holes in and I

917
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 5: think he could could beat him.

918
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 2: Now what he beat him, we'll see on that. I suppose.

919
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 3: Well, it's very interesting Sean she and Severe mma with

920
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 3: us here on the Anakin Florian podcast. Ian Mashadow Gary,

921
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 3: I am a huge fan of obviously, and if they

922
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 3: were doing him favors, they wouldn't have made him fight

923
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 3: Michael Venam Page. So I do think it'll be Shavcat

924
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 3: rock Monov, but I think he in the shadow.

925
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: Gary is worthy right now as you do.

926
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 3: And if not, he's one main event away and hopefully

927
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 3: that happens in Dublin, Ireland. Before we get you out

928
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 3: of here, we got about thirty seconds UFC three to

929
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 3: H five. Drake is due plus C Championship title defense

930
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 3: number one against Israelata Sonia and I'll actually give you

931
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,479
Speaker 3: sixty seconds on this. But what is the long term

932
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 3: viability of DDP as champion and forced to make a

933
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 3: pick for this weekend. Are you going with the favorite

934
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Speaker 3: aut of Sonya or the underdog DDP.

935
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Speaker 5: I'm going with Adasanya, But answer the first question, I

936
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 5: think if he wins this weekend DDB, I think he

937
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 5: will be a long term champion. I don't think there's

938
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 5: much to beat him after Adasanya. But you look at

939
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 5: these records, twenty three fights, twenty one of those who

940
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 5: finished inside the distance. That's that's crazy start for you know,

941
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 5: a non heavywet. Is he going to be able to

942
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 5: take adas Sanya out of it?

943
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 2: Like?

944
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 5: I think what he has to do is not fight

945
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,280
Speaker 5: like a champion. He needs to fight like a challenger.

946
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 5: Take it to adas Sanya.

947
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, do all.

948
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 5: He can take the shots, you know, and give his own,

949
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 5: and that's the way you beat him. If we spoke

950
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 5: just liking Gary, if you get into a technical matchup

951
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 5: with him, if you stand on the outside, if you

952
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 5: allow him to circle and the fin it's going to

953
00:43:58,320 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 5: be big problems.

954
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 2: I think.

955
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 5: The only other thing with Adasanya, and I'll mentioned it

956
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 5: is we've seen before, especially obviously in the Pereira first fight,

957
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 5: sometimes he can have a bit of a lead, and

958
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 5: we've even the canon near fight and stuff, and he

959
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 5: can sit in it, you know, and he knows he's

960
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 5: ahead and mentally ad Asanya sometimes can just take a

961
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 5: little bit of a step off. And as I said,

962
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 5: a massive finisher duples. So this is this is by

963
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 5: no means a walkover anything like that. But I just

964
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 5: think Adasanya will be too much for him. I think

965
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 5: he's too technical, too tactical. I think the time off

966
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 5: will actually have benefited at Asanya as well. He fought

967
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 5: so much over four years and I think that led

968
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 5: him and I see him probably winning a decision here again.

969
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 3: All right, shan She and Severe Mma, shuret dog at

970
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 3: sehan She and ba on X my man. Great to

971
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 3: hear you as always. Thanks for the insight, especially on

972
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 3: that welterweight division. How about this guy getting the assignment

973
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 3: and fucking watching film last night. We appreciate you, brother,

974
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 3: and uh we'll talk to him the not too distant future.

975
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 2: Thanks, guys, appreciate it. I have a good job there

976
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 2: he is. Thank you, buddy.

977
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 3: Shan She and with us here live on the Anakin

978
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 3: Floria Podcast. It's all very interesting when it comes to

979
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 3: that UFC welterweight division. I do think it'll be blaw

980
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 3: Muhammed and Shavcot Rockmanov. We do have this Salt Lake

981
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 3: City date coming up on October fifth, that is without

982
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 3: a main event. Last time we were there it was

983
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 3: for a BMF belt. I don't know when you see

984
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 3: the welterweight championship fight. I don't know if you see

985
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 3: it as a co headliner at Madison Square Garden or

986
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 3: in December. But uh, blah Muhammed's going to defend in

987
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. And my money is it is on

988
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 3: it being Shavcut Rockmanov and not the number one contender

989
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 3: can flow Kamara Usman, who appears to be getting into

990
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 3: it with Balal a little bit.

991
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 2: You think we're gonna see Shadcott.

992
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,760
Speaker 4: Yes, I think it's gonna be shot gu Yah. Yeah,

993
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 4: I think that's a fight that makes a lot of sense.

994
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,720
Speaker 4: And uh yeah, I mean and for Kamorrow, you know, uh,

995
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 4: for better or worse, he's gonna have to work back

996
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 4: into the division, get getting to win, and then he'd

997
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 4: probably be right into that conversation.

998
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, we're gonna get to Brian Petrie here

999
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 3: in thirty seconds. I just want to apologize to the

1000
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 3: minute men. My twin brother texted me, you're an asshole.

1001
00:45:59,000 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: Yep.

1002
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 3: So I didn't mean to. I was just having a

1003
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 3: little bit of fun at Longgo's expense. And we'll give

1004
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,399
Speaker 3: him a chance to retort next week. But now joining

1005
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 3: us is the chief Handicapper here on the award nominated

1006
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 3: Anakin Florida.

1007
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 2: Big On Brian Petree.

1008
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 7: What's up, boys with the microphone?

1009
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 2: Love it all right?

1010
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 3: We have a lot of things to get into. Yes today,

1011
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 3: I don't know how long you've been with us here,

1012
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 3: Brian Petree on a Sunday, But I'm gonna chug some

1013
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,720
Speaker 3: white claw hard Seltzer, which really is trash, I mean, okay,

1014
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 3: in honor of Josh Cooliboo.

1015
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna do the pronunciation of the week.

1016
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna read, you know, a ten second commercial spot,

1017
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 3: and then I'm gonna get into the alcohol and then

1018
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 3: we'll make our eight predictions. Two pronunciations of the week

1019
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 3: for you, big gun, Brian Petrie. So one of these

1020
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 3: guys is fighting Dan Hooker. He's a lightweight who is

1021
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 3: trying to make it eight wins in his last nine.

1022
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 3: He trains on Mike Brown and the rest of the

1023
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 3: American Top Team here Coconut Creek, Florida, nickname gamer. What

1024
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 3: do you have for us on this outstanding Polish one

1025
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 3: fifty or BP?

1026
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 7: So it's the first thing they get you, right, So

1027
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 7: uh mantch Gamera?

1028
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 3: So I mean I love you, but like, have you

1029
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 3: heard an drop A man?

1030
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 2: I got rush I kne keny was gonna laugh at.

1031
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 3: Let's see what we have on on mister Gamera.

1032
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 6: My name is my nique name is My name is

1033
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 6: my nique name.

1034
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 2: Is Mattauge Gamros. You like that mattaug ken Flow. And

1035
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 2: then our other guy is a flyweight.

1036
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 3: He's fighting Steve ver Seg in the co main event,

1037
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 3: coming back from a concussion and about a fourteen month

1038
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 3: a off k k F for short nickname don't blink?

1039
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 3: How do we pronounce this seemingly easy to pronounce name,

1040
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 3: b PA?

1041
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 7: So I love the way you pronounce his name. I

1042
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 7: think you do it better than anybody. But I go

1043
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 7: Kai Car France. I don't jazz it up. I think

1044
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 7: ky Car Franz.

1045
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 2: Hey ken Flow. How do you pronounce his name? Kai Car?

1046
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 2: I say kaikr France? But alright, Car France.

1047
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 3: Well, but I don't know when you come when you

1048
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 3: talk about me, doctor rind it Up.

1049
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 2: I think he might be talking about the kata. I

1050
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 2: don't know.

1051
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 3: It is, all right, so listen to the fucking fighters

1052
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 3: say it right, and then you guys can criticize me

1053
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 3: on the backside.

1054
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 6: See just my full name yea Kai cut the Kai

1055
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,720
Speaker 6: cut a front, Kai cut.

1056
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 2: A front and one with your fight name as well.

1057
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 6: Please kat a front.

1058
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 2: You nailed Johnny every time.

1059
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 3: Well, ken flow, he's not rolling an R like Brazilian Portuguese.

1060
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 3: He's a kiwi, but he rolls the R every every time.

1061
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 3: He said it four times.

1062
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 2: Right.

1063
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 4: My sister is Cara, but it's like, you know, my

1064
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 4: parents are from Peru, so that's it's gotta gotta I understand, right,

1065
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 4: It's like and there's the Australian accent thing too, so yeah.

1066
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 4: But either way, respecting how the fighter says, it is

1067
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 4: the way to go.

1068
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 2: That's it, right.

1069
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 3: It isn't a pronunciation police thing. I'm literally trying to

1070
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 3: mimic what the fighter says. And because he says katta uh,

1071
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 3: that's what I do. By right time for the main

1072
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 3: event challenge presented by Draft Kings, Stay tuned because you

1073
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 3: will hear more about DraftKings and all it has to

1074
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,439
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1075
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 2: The crown is yours.

1076
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,479
Speaker 3: So I can't open my throat and chug a beer

1077
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 3: like Tom Brady or Josh Kolabau or Junior Tafa or

1078
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 3: Justin Gaetgee. So I have to bring a fucking towel

1079
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 3: when I chug alcohol. And the anakinformed podcast so I

1080
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 3: timed cool about it was like one point nine seconds

1081
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 3: for him to chug a pint of beer and then

1082
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 3: put it on his head.

1083
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 2: So I just haven't been able to do this.

1084
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 3: So we're going white Claw, hard Celtz, going to open

1085
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 3: up the throat, and then we're going to get to

1086
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 3: eight predictions for UFC three oh five due plus C

1087
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 3: versus Adasania. I'm just trying to figure out which of

1088
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 3: these fun sound bites on the board I'm gonna play

1089
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 3: as I chug my white claw to get fired up

1090
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 3: for today's main event challenge presented by DraftKings.

1091
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 2: That's it's done.

1092
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 8: It's Yeahtysburg College taught him, well, look at the eyes, FRANKI,

1093
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 8: Edgar Iron Army.

1094
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 3: Hey, if you guys were picking Jana Santo's Chelsea Chandler

1095
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 3: right now, I might go change my shirt, but I

1096
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,760
Speaker 3: want to stick around for our first preliminary selection.

1097
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 2: You three oz five women's flyweight division. I am gonna

1098
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 2: go change my shirt.

1099
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 3: But Luana Santos minus one fifty five fifteenth rank, Casey

1100
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 3: O'Neill plus one thirty VP.

1101
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, who do you love?

1102
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 3: Uh?

1103
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 2: I don't love anybody. I'm on the fence.

1104
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 7: I do like Casey Neil a lot, but ever since

1105
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 7: she tore in the Europe her knee, excuse me, she

1106
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 7: hasn't really been the same fighter.

1107
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 2: The aggression there.

1108
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 7: She's coming off a submission loss, and Lauana Santos is

1109
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,240
Speaker 7: no fucking picnic on the ground.

1110
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 2: She's got some moves on the ground from the bottom

1111
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 2: and from the top.

1112
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 7: I like Caseyaniel before the knee injury, her aggression, her anger,

1113
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 7: her meanness in there. She's not touching gloves. She's a

1114
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 7: bad bitch in there, and she had some skills to

1115
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 7: back it up. But again, it takes a while to

1116
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 7: come back from a knee. This will be your third

1117
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 7: fight from knee injury. But the dog is looking good.

1118
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 7: But I'm good at go Santos. I'm a little worried

1119
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 7: about Casey O'Neill hitting the floor with Santos and getting

1120
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 7: an arm cad or getting a neck net cat or something.

1121
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go the favorite, but I'm keeping an eye

1122
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 7: on the dog still.

1123
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 3: Earlier in the week, Casey O'Neill, friend of the Anakin

1124
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 3: Flooring Podcast. She will be on the show in the

1125
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 3: coming weeks if she produces a win here. We've been

1126
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 3: going back and forth trying to get her on the show.

1127
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 3: She was to face Terresa Blada. Instead it will be

1128
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 3: Luana Santos, who just turned twenty four in April. Santos

1129
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 3: has won five in a row, off to a three

1130
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 3: and oh start in the UFC. O'Neil the underdog here.

1131
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 3: Ken Flow started four and oh in the UFC, now

1132
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 3: four and two after back to back losses. Last fight

1133
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 3: in Australia for her her native land came in Perth

1134
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty. Now returns home looking for that green

1135
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 3: stripe on the Wikipedia page Camflow, Who do you have

1136
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 3: for the women?

1137
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 2: Here? At one twenty five? So when when was the

1138
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 2: change made? See Lauana? I think it was three weeks

1139
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 2: or so ago, but my research is not complete. Gotcha

1140
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 2: all right? Yeah? So Casey is that going for right.

1141
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 4: However, Luana is going to be a tough matchup for

1142
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 4: anybody just based on her high level judo and takedown game.

1143
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 4: You know, she's only a blue belt on the ground,

1144
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 4: but positionally because of that Judeo background, she's gonna be

1145
00:52:59,480 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 4: tough to some.

1146
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 2: It's not going to be easy at all.

1147
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 4: I think where Casey can maybe catch her as perhaps

1148
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 4: in the transition from him from her going maybe from

1149
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 4: a takedown into the ground quickly, something like that. But

1150
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 4: I do think O'Neill has a big advantage on the ground.

1151
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 4: She is significantly more technical on the ground. Now, it

1152
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 4: doesn't mean she's more dangerous necessarily because Santos is dangerous

1153
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 4: and she throws, but man, she's pretty reckless on the feet.

1154
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 4: She keeps that chin up in the air, where I

1155
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 4: think O'Neil, if she's able to keep her composure and

1156
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,919
Speaker 4: stop the takedown, can absolutely win this fight.

1157
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 2: However, I'm not touching this one from a betting perspective.

1158
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 2: I think that there's a lot that can go right

1159
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 2: or wrong.

1160
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 4: I'm kind of leaning towards O'Neil a little bit, just

1161
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 4: based on the fact that Santos has taking this fight

1162
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 4: on relative short notice.

1163
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 2: You know, the weight cut isn't always easy to do

1164
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 2: on two or three weeks.

1165
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 4: And I do think O'Neil is more technical on the feet,

1166
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 4: but Santa is a problem with those takedowns and she

1167
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 4: loves that chaos, so whereas O'Neill likes a more technical fight.

1168
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 2: So this is a fascinating one. I guess I'm leaning

1169
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 2: towards oneah here, but I'm not touching this thing from

1170
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 2: betting perspective.

1171
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 3: All right, good stuff there can flow. And I am

1172
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 3: a true world class idiot stick. I was supposed to

1173
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 3: chug the alcohol when we broke down the Josh cool

1174
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:23,919
Speaker 3: about fight?

1175
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 2: Okay, you got excited?

1176
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 3: I like it.

1177
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I prepped the hell out of the show. I

1178
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 2: don't know if you can tell. What's that magic of that.

1179
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 2: Ed didn't get a lot. I know, bro, he wanted

1180
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 2: to let it, will do it like Josh.

1181
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 3: Josh knows that as soon as I see him, all

1182
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 3: we're going to talk about is his ability to chug.

1183
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 2: But it's a good.

1184
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 3: Featherway pre Lan Bry Yeah, cool about minus one seventy

1185
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 3: taken on hikardohamos plus one forty two, So cool about

1186
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 3: had one three in a row and looked pretty good

1187
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 3: doing it before he dropped his last two to the

1188
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 3: likes of Laron Murphy and Danny Silva. Almost has lost

1189
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 3: two in a row as well, bride both by first

1190
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 3: round submission. Your thoughts on this prelim, Yeah, coolbock and

1191
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 3: chug beer, and he can fight, you know, I mean,

1192
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 3: I know he's oh and two in his life.

1193
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 7: He should have he should have got this decision win

1194
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 7: over Danny Silva. Didn't say it was a phenomenal striker.

1195
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 7: Cool about his out volume to him, outworked him in

1196
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 7: that fight. Not really sure how he lost that fight.

1197
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 7: L Royl Murphy is a different kind of beast. The

1198
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,240
Speaker 7: Royal Murphy touches you. It throws pauls in everybody.

1199
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 2: I get it.

1200
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 7: But cool about got kind of an awkward style, awkward body.

1201
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 7: Everything about him is a little different. But he's good

1202
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 7: at what he does. Cardio for days, he can fight

1203
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 7: in the ground, He has some submissions. He can put

1204
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 7: hands to your face. Not the overwhelming power, but Hakata

1205
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 7: homos this guy, you know, he he kind kind of

1206
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,879
Speaker 7: tends to wilt. He's fancy, He's got some spinning shit,

1207
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 7: some kicks, and backfist. You know, grapplers giving problems with

1208
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 7: strikers giving problems and when you get in there, the

1209
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 7: real tough dirty over in Australia. I think Ramos is

1210
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 7: gonna wilt here. I think cool About is gonna put

1211
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 7: it on him, maybe even look for a finish. The

1212
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 7: oh and two's gonna be in his river mirror here.

1213
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 7: I like cool About a win and probably by finishes

1214
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 7: how I'm gonna play this fight, but give me cool

1215
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 7: aboll straight.

1216
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 2: Up ken flow could be a case of loser goes

1217
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 2: home here.

1218
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 3: I think both of these guys have roster value, but

1219
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 3: it's a hard division in which to lose three in

1220
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 3: a row.

1221
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 2: So what do you have for us? On Kolibao and

1222
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 2: Hicicardo Homos? I think this is gonna be really fun matchup.

1223
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 4: You know, I know that Homos has done a full

1224
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 4: camp now at Team Alpha Male, and we have seen

1225
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 4: him have a little bit of a propensity towards that takedown.

1226
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 4: I think that might be even more prevalent now after

1227
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 4: having done a full camp at Team Alpha Male, and

1228
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 4: you know, I think he's got some weapons on the

1229
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 4: feet as well. I just think cool Aboo overall presents

1230
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 4: a much better package on the feet when it comes

1231
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 4: to utilizing all the weapons that he has feet to

1232
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 4: hands and also his fins. He really knows how to

1233
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 4: set people up. He knows how to move in and out,

1234
00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 4: whereas Hamos is a little bit more basic with his

1235
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 4: approach to striking. Doesn't mean he's any less dangerous, just

1236
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 4: Kulabal is just more more of a sophisticated operator. And

1237
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 4: I think Kolibeal is going to be good enough to

1238
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 4: thwart some of those takedown attempts if he does end

1239
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 4: up on his back or have the ability to get

1240
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 4: back to his feet more often than not. So and

1241
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 4: I agree with Brian. I also think that Homos isn't

1242
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 4: great at managing his energy. You know, he does tend

1243
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 4: to get a little tired or does tend to check

1244
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 4: out as the fight moves on.

1245
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 2: He's on an unfortunate to lost win streak, and both.

1246
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 4: Of those came by guillotine, So you have to believe

1247
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 4: that Kolibal is going to be looking into that if necessary.

1248
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 4: And you know, to me, if you're getting caught in

1249
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 4: guillotines at this stage of the game in high level mma,

1250
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 4: you're not doing your homework or you're panicking. It's not

1251
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 4: a difficult submission to escape or to defend against. And

1252
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,439
Speaker 4: it seems to me that he's just getting a little

1253
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 4: too excited out there and leaving his neck available and

1254
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 4: then kind of panicking or not doing his homework. So okay,

1255
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 4: I like cool about here. I think it's pretty clear,

1256
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 4: and I think it's his fight to lose again. Given

1257
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 4: the fact that he's fighting in Perth, I think that

1258
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 4: should help him as well.

1259
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, nice, all right.

1260
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 3: Featured Preland boys at least on the second iteration of

1261
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 3: the fight card at UFC three to zero five is

1262
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 3: a heavyweight fight two guys who have brothers on the

1263
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 3: roster as well. Walter Walker, brother of Johnny Is minus

1264
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 3: one ten As Is Junior Tafa, brother of Justin so Junior.

1265
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 3: Brian famously stepped in, of course, against Paizow Marcos Jerio

1266
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 3: de Lima on essentially a day's notice that was back

1267
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 3: in February. UFC two ninety eight got leg kick to Hell,

1268
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 3: now returning with a full camp here against Walker.

1269
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 2: Pick him fight at heavyweight? Any action for ubp uh Yeah,

1270
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 2: I might have a little action on this.

1271
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 7: Listen, brother versus brother here lose brother goes O Junior

1272
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 7: Tava took that fight on short notice, a relative like

1273
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 7: the shortest nose you can possibly do, right. But he

1274
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 7: comes from a kickboxing background, and I didn't like that

1275
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 7: he couldn't read pays outs, kicks And it's not like

1276
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 7: Rodrigo Delima is the fastest guy in the roster. He

1277
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 7: just I mean, I'm sure he kicks very hard, but

1278
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 7: you couldn't read it, you couldn't check it. After coming

1279
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 7: to kickboxing background.

1280
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 2: Scares me. When I heard her Junior Tafa coming over

1281
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 2: to MMA, he was the better version of Justin.

1282
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 7: Haven't seen it yet. He's kind of almost like stuck

1283
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 7: in heavyweight two a five. I almost feel like he

1284
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 7: could be a two a five. I know he's a

1285
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 7: big thick dude, got big thick legs, but he's.

1286
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 2: Not as big as his brother. He's almost stuck in

1287
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 2: like Limbo there.

1288
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 7: And then y Enter Walter Walker, who I don't think

1289
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 7: looks anything like Johnny. I would have never assumed these

1290
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 7: guys are brothers. You have a twin brother, these are

1291
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 7: the opposite of twins, whatever that is. But this dude

1292
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 7: looked kind of pedestrian and just looked like he had

1293
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 7: one way to win in his debut against Luasbski and

1294
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 7: IW was get the fight to the ground, and he

1295
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 7: got the fight to the ground four times and did

1296
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 7: nothing right. That's obviously the path of victor here. I

1297
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 7: can see Walt Walker being some value. I thought he'd

1298
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 7: be plus money because he did not look good against

1299
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 7: it in his debut. But obviously Junior Tafa get a

1300
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 7: little bit of hometime shine here and big knockout power.

1301
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 7: Hopefully Valter Walker doesn't have Johnny Walker's chin because it's

1302
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 7: going to be a short night for him. However, I'm

1303
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 7: gonna go Junior Tafa because of the part of the

1304
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 7: world we're in. I think you can catch him here,

1305
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 7: but it's nothing I'm running about the window in I'll

1306
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 7: probably go Junior Tafa by ko. I'll avoid money line

1307
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 7: because I see Valta Walker just big body in them laying.

1308
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 2: Down him for three rounds. Nicely done, bruh, that's interesting.

1309
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 3: I do kind of see Junior Tough as a light

1310
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 3: heavyweight when when I spend appreciable time around him. Ken

1311
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 3: flow Walter Walker eleven and one never been Finished is

1312
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 3: coming off that afore mentioned first pro loss in what

1313
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 3: was his UFC debut in April against Lucas Dretski.

1314
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 2: What do you think about this one? Can flow pick

1315
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 2: him at heavyweight? Yeah?

1316
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 4: You know, Walker, I thought showed signs of being a

1317
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 4: good takedown and control artist in his UFC debut, And

1318
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 4: you know, I think this is going to be a

1319
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 4: very similar approach or should be a very similar approach

1320
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 4: here against Tafa, who most certainly will be the better striker,

1321
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 4: the more dangerous striker.

1322
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 2: You know.

1323
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 4: I think he's very dangerous, especially in tight However, taugh,

1324
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 4: if he ends up on his back, it could be

1325
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 4: a very long night for him.

1326
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 2: And I think that Tafa isn't going to be as good,

1327
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 2: is it? Brazenski?

1328
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 3: What's the how do you pronounce It's actually pronounced with

1329
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 3: a D instead of a B. It's Lucas Dreski, Sure, sure, exactly?

1330
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 2: Dress Ki?

1331
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, a Polish family. It's like they their approach

1332
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 3: to language like yo wanna you know? And Jack Check

1333
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 3: basically told us as Americans that like our mouths can't

1334
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 3: even make the sounds of their language, so.

1335
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 2: Okay, and you're half Polish.

1336
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 4: So I think Dreski did a really good job of

1337
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 4: getting back to his feet, did a good job of

1338
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 4: surviving in there. And that was a close fight. It

1339
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 4: kind of could have gone either way, you know. And

1340
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 4: and Walker, I think has shown decent takedowns. But I

1341
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 4: agree with Brian. He's gonna have to be way busier.

1342
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 4: He's gonna have to advance position at the very least

1343
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 4: to try to win this fight. You know, there's a

1344
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 4: reason why the odds are so close here, both at

1345
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 4: minus one ten. If Tafa can keep it on the feet,

1346
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 4: he wins. If Walker takes him down and finds that

1347
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 4: method of getting in on those legs, he's gonna win

1348
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 4: this fight. Just stylistically, this is your striker grappler matchup.

1349
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 4: I guess as close as we can get in twenty

1350
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 4: twenty four in MMA. And I'm kind of leaning towards

1351
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 4: Walker if I'm being honest, but we shall see.

1352
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 3: You better be fucking honest, you know, the highest paid

1353
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 3: member of the show. I mean, at least we want veracity.

1354
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 3: All right, that's it for the prelims.

1355
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 2: All right, hell's everybody, good, good good, We're okay, We're okay.

1356
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 3: We're gonna get to the main car live on a

1357
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 3: ESPN plus pay per view. First out of the shooting

1358
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 3: welterweight division, Carlos protests minus two seventy and climbing VP

1359
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 3: taking on one of my favorite human beings in all

1360
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 3: of MMA, the leech Leeching Leong, who's plus two to twenty.

1361
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 3: I mean, you talk about a smile lighting up a room.

1362
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 3: Fucking love me some leech Rotess is the near three

1363
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 3: to one favorite here BP. He's a BJJ black belt

1364
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 3: fourteen knockouts across his nineteen pro MMA wins, he's two

1365
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 3: and zero two and oh excuse me. In the UFC

1366
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 3: after folding Chuck Buffalo Charles Radkey with a body shot

1367
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 3: back on June eighth, Now he draws the returning leech

1368
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 3: leeging and leung back for the first time in a

1369
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 3: long time.

1370
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 2: VP.

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01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 7: Who'd he have two years off of the leaf? So listen,

1372
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 7: I love the leech as well. Seeing his daughter in

1373
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 7: the crowd that went on the one of those fights

1374
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 7: was incredible. The guy, Yeah, I know his daughter's name.

1375
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 7: That's how much I love this stick.

1376
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 2: I love it right, And then it's funny because he

1377
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 2: seems like a great guy.

1378
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:34,919
Speaker 7: But then there's times he's getting the cage and he's

1379
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 7: sticking his fingers and cuts and he's doing a little

1380
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 7: rosty shit. This motherfucker is a savage, right but he

1381
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 7: hasn't seen him in two years, and the last time

1382
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 7: we saw him, I felt like he was a little pedestrian.

1383
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 7: He was a little struggling with distance. And now he

1384
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 7: went there Carlos practice. This motherfucker we talked about last week.

1385
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 7: This dude still smokes cigarettes. He talks about all the time.

1386
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 7: I can't wait to go have a cigarette after the fight.

1387
01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 7: He is nasty on the feet and he's only gotten better.

1388
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 7: His records at a little wonky because early in his

1389
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 7: career he had some ugly losses. But I think he,

1390
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 7: you know, maybe he was smoking two packs a day

1391
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 7: back then. Now he's on the one because he's taking

1392
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 7: his career much more seriously. And he's a long range,

1393
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 7: powerful dude. He's one of those skinny guys that can

1394
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 7: hurt you everywhere, to the body, to the head. The

1395
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 7: Leach has never been knocked out. He's been finished by submission,

1396
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 7: but he's never been knocked out. He's got a Drew

1397
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 7: dober Chin. However, I'm all over Proctice in this fight.

1398
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 7: I love Carlos protest I think is striking as special,

1399
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 7: and I think obviously we need to see a little

1400
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,439
Speaker 7: more extended. The leaks is durable, so maybe we will

1401
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 7: see a second, late, second, third round of practice see

1402
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 7: if those cigarette lungs can hold up.

1403
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 2: But I like Proftese here.

1404
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 7: I don't know if he can knock out the leads

1405
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 7: because the leach is incredibly durable.

1406
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 2: But I am all over colors Proctese here. Striking is

1407
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 2: pretty fun to watch.

1408
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 3: Guys, I want to talk about cigarettes for a second.

1409
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 3: I know, kind of on the clock. Aaron Brons said,

1410
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:53,919
Speaker 3: are coming up at twelve forty five. Perhaps Cody bone

1411
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 3: Marrow could move him back five minutes or so. Dirt sticks,

1412
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 3: long darts, huh. Cody's New Hampshire. I'd imagine he's had

1413
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 3: several fucking heaters in his day. That's what they call him.

1414
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 3: Since the heaters ken flow dover Sherburn High School. I'd

1415
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 3: imagine a lot of those kids were sucking down lung darts.

1416
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 3: You don't strike me, especially as the former soccer player collegiately,

1417
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 3: that you were as someone whoever smoked cigarettes on the regular,

1418
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 3: Is that accurate?

1419
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 4: May have tried a couple when I was like thirteen

1420
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 4: or fourteen. See what Yeah, like wasn't a fan? Yeah, yeah,

1421
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 4: they were like Marble Reds too, Yeah, the big boys.

1422
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 4: But it's tough, man, if you're trying to be an

1423
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 4: athlete smoking, that's a difficult thing.

1424
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 5: No.

1425
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, Brian, ever addicted a cigarettes or a cigarette smoker?

1426
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 7: And you're never tried a cigarette a day of my life.

1427
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 7: My entire family, My mom, my dad, both my sisters

1428
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 7: heavy heavy smokers. I find it repulsing, can't even be

1429
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 7: near it. Never tried it, don't like it. Get out

1430
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 7: of my face.

1431
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I am not a cigarette guy. Never smoked

1432
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 3: them regularly. I think I've had less than a hundred

1433
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 3: of them in my life. I mean sometimes I I

1434
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 3: would like to try to heighten a collegiate buzz with uh,

1435
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 3: with some nicotine, which is a very interesting drug if

1436
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 3: you research it.

1437
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, not a cigarette guy myself. Cody.

1438
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 3: I don't know if you have a microphone, but you

1439
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 3: strike me as a guy who, at some point in

1440
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 3: your formative teenage years was was a big nicotine guy.

1441
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 5: No.

1442
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 2: If by at some point you mean every time I

1443
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 2: played Blackshack.

1444
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, then he comes in with like the fanciest fucking

1445
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 3: microphone in this nice voice and sounds like he's been

1446
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 3: fucking sucking heaters. All All right, ken flow, I think

1447
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 3: I need you to predict this fight. Can I set

1448
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 3: up the leech leging lyon a little bit? I fight

1449
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 3: so neck and spine injury that shepherdized his career. Has

1450
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 3: that for a transition, right, we're joking about lung darts,

1451
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 3: But in all honesty, I mean this guy had a

1452
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 3: lot of UFC momentum, and then there was this circumstance

1453
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 3: of UFC two seventy nine. If you recall, he lost

1454
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 3: a split decision to Daniel Rodriguez, a fight that a

1455
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 3: lot of people thought he won. He was supposed to

1456
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 3: fight Tony Ferguson and maybe what was more of a

1457
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 3: showcase spot that just crazy famous card shake up, and

1458
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 3: then training for Michael kiesa fight in twenty twenty three,

1459
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 3: has this injury that puts his career in jeopardy. So

1460
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 3: now he's back for the first time in two years,

1461
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 3: and he's thirty six years old taking on the streaking nightmare.

1462
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 3: Carlos protests, your thoughts can flow.

1463
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, So I like this fight.

1464
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 4: I do think it's a lot closer than one would think,

1465
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 4: you know, based on the odds. I think Protess is dangerous,

1466
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 4: don't get me wrong, But you know, I don't know

1467
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 4: if we should get so excited at this stage of

1468
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 4: the game because he knocked out TREVN Giles and Charles Ratkey.

1469
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 2: No offense to those guys, They're just not the elite

1470
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 2: at this at this stage.

1471
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 4: So I think Protest is gonna be dangerous, no question

1472
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 4: about it, especially in regards to his leg His kicks,

1473
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 4: his knees are absolutely brutal.

1474
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 2: You gotta watch up for those hands and elbows too.

1475
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 4: He is a multi specialist, but I think the best

1476
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 4: part of his game is probably his leg game. And

1477
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 4: we haven't seen the leach in a long time, and

1478
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 4: a lot can change during that time period. I think

1479
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 4: he's always gonna have a knockout power for sure, especially

1480
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,759
Speaker 4: in regards to his boxing. I think he could potentially

1481
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 4: mix things up maybe with his takedown game. Prot This

1482
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 4: isn't the best on the ground either, in my opinion,

1483
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 4: so this is gonna be interesting. Protes is very tall.

1484
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 4: He He's dangerous, of course, so I don't know.

1485
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 2: I think there's value on the leach.

1486
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 4: You know, so I'm not gonna touch this one from

1487
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:46,640
Speaker 4: a betting standpoint, but protest certainly dangerous. I think this

1488
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 4: will be a good test to get a better gauge

1489
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 4: for me to see how really good this Brazilian is. No,

1490
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 4: that's well put. I love this fight to kick off

1491
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 4: the main card.

1492
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be emotional for the Leech as

1493
01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 3: he gets back to this amazing career that almost got

1494
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:02,799
Speaker 3: short changed.

1495
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 2: Drinking on the podcast is an interesting thing.

1496
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:08,600
Speaker 3: I'm kind of craving a Marlborough medium right now, but

1497
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 3: I am a little bit distracted. You know, i haven't

1498
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:12,639
Speaker 3: had a ton to eat today, and I'm a lightweight

1499
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 3: when it comes to this alcohol substance. Let us get

1500
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 3: to the heavyweight division. Twelve Frank Chargino rosenstrike minus one

1501
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 3: ninety two. Number ten Ti Toyvasa is plus one sixty

1502
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 3: So briy, you know the backdrop two. Vasa goes from

1503
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 3: winning five in a row, looking like he can really

1504
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 3: do some things, to four red stripes. He's lost his

1505
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 3: last four. Now granted the competition steel Gon, Sergey Pavlovich,

1506
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 3: Alexander Volkov marchin Tabora, but now he draws Biggie Boy,

1507
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 3: who's in a pretty good spot based upon his last performance.

1508
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 2: What do he make of the heavyweights competing at UFC

1509
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 2: three oh five VP.

1510
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 7: I think we're gonna see a shoeye baby. I think

1511
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 7: we're gonna see the crowd go wild and get a shoeye.

1512
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 7: I like Biggie Boy to an extent. He just doesn't

1513
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 7: throw enough. He's got one touch power and he just

1514
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 7: doesn't do it.

1515
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:57,600
Speaker 2: And he's a bit vulnerable when he gets hit. He

1516
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:00,600
Speaker 2: has been rocked. He has been gen before and you

1517
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 2: got tied to a AASA back against the wall. He's

1518
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 2: back home. I know he's training to Dubai for a while.

1519
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 5: For a while.

1520
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:09,560
Speaker 7: He's back in Australia, fighting in Australia. He wants this

1521
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 7: probably more than anything. He has to be motivated and it's.

1522
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 2: Gonna be kill or be killed.

1523
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 7: In that first round, he's gonna get put out or

1524
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 7: he's gonna put Biggie Boy out. And when you're giving

1525
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 7: me plus money against a guy and Biggie Boy who

1526
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:24,640
Speaker 7: doesn't throw enough, and a guy like Ty who is explosive,

1527
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 7: who does have some quick, twicked muscle and some speed

1528
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 7: for the size of him, I'm gonna go tie to Abasa.

1529
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 7: I think we're gonna shoot me. I think we're gonna

1530
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,600
Speaker 7: get a knockout, and I think I might play that.

1531
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 7: Come place your bets so about that? Hey, give me

1532
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 7: Ti too of Ausa. That's what we call it tease.

1533
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 7: Ty two I Vasa.

1534
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 2: He's awaken Baker Ken Flow.

1535
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 3: He's the type of guy roll out of bed, fucking

1536
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:47,440
Speaker 3: smoke a joint, and then go train like a motherfucker.

1537
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 3: On the other side, you have Biggi boy, Jargino rosen Strike,

1538
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 3: a little bit of a serious cat. I've talked a

1539
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 3: lot about just how much power you feel when you

1540
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 3: shake the man's hand, and I think in terms of

1541
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 3: his MMA maturity, you saw a lot of that in

1542
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 3: the Shamil Gazivee fight. Even though it was a listless

1543
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:07,680
Speaker 3: main event at times, I did feel like, mentally, spiritually,

1544
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 3: physically that Jarzino Rosenstrike was in a different place than

1545
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:13,679
Speaker 3: he was early on in his UFC career. He's accruede

1546
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 3: a lot of experience. He's favored here. I feel like

1547
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 3: Tye is the quicker, better, high twitch fiber athlete, but

1548
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 3: Jarzino Rosenstrike is a measured striker, and there is obviously

1549
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 3: a lot of danger when it comes to fighting him.

1550
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 2: So anything with conviction for you on the heavyweights Kenny Floord.

1551
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think rosen strike is very dangerous.

1552
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 4: But I do think he suffers from a lack of volume.

1553
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 4: I think a lot of time that's attributed to the

1554
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 4: styles that he has faced. Right It's like, you're gonna

1555
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 4: face rosen Strike, you want to take him down, and

1556
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 4: because he knows you want to take him down, he's

1557
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 4: a little hesitant at times to let the hands go.

1558
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 4: He's so concerned with being at the proper level to

1559
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:58,719
Speaker 4: stop the takedowns that he maybe forgets about his striking

1560
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 4: a little bit. Against ty shoey Vasa, I think that, uh,

1561
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 4: I think this is gonna be a tough one, and

1562
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:08,799
Speaker 4: I'm with Brian here. I think that people are sleeping

1563
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 4: on touiy Vasa. I think that this might bring out

1564
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:15,600
Speaker 4: the best in him. Tui Vasa will put together combinations.

1565
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 4: He will put together combinations to take you out, and

1566
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:22,679
Speaker 4: if he lands on Roses strike and hurts some touy

1567
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:25,719
Speaker 4: Vasa is going to finish. So I like the position

1568
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:28,360
Speaker 4: he's in right now. I also think that sometimes touy

1569
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:32,679
Speaker 4: Vasa is most dangerous when you doubt him. And Tui

1570
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 4: Vasa has been taken down repeatedly. He's been grounding out

1571
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 4: and he's been submitted. We know for sure that roses

1572
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 4: Strike is not going to do that.

1573
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 2: I guess we could.

1574
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 4: Probably say with a high level of certainty that's not

1575
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 4: going to happen. That's just not what roses Strike is

1576
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 4: known for. I like Toui Vasa here as the underdog.

1577
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:53,800
Speaker 4: I think it's worth putting a little cake on there. Hey, uh,

1578
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 4: shoey Vasa.

1579
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 2: Let's go.

1580
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 3: So when I was doing media last week, I was

1581
01:12:57,800 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 3: asked about this fight and I said, I would love

1582
01:12:59,880 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 3: to have the benefit of my fighter meeting with tay

1583
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 3: To Ivasa before I give you an opinion, because we

1584
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 3: get tremendous insight from ty. But there have definitely been

1585
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 3: times where his commitment has been so undeniable that you

1586
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 3: feel really good about him going in. I mean there

1587
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 3: have been I think on three or four occasions, long

1588
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 3: training camps in Dubai away from his family. So I

1589
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:24,640
Speaker 3: don't know what the preparation held this time around, but

1590
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 3: you got to think that tay To Ivasa uh is

1591
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 3: going to be at the height.

1592
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 2: For him of discipline and motivation. All right.

1593
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:35,799
Speaker 3: Featured bout at lightweight. Oh, this is worth a thirty

1594
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 3: seven hour itinerary. American top teams Matauje Gamrock bride number

1595
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 3: five in the world at present minus two eighty five

1596
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 3: and ascending. I've sent you guys this odd and it

1597
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 3: continues to climb. Taken on City Kickboxing's Dan Hooker, who

1598
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 3: is plus two thirty so Gamrot trying to make it

1599
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:58,640
Speaker 3: eight wins in his last nine. Taken on an absolute

1600
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 3: savage in Dan Hooker, who wanted this fight Bry. Interesting

1601
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 3: fight between rank lightweights. Who do you think takes it?

1602
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 7: Man? What a fight here, Dan Hooker. First off, he's

1603
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,560
Speaker 7: gonna look unrecognizable of the cage. That dude's got so

1604
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:14,200
Speaker 7: many tattoos. Now, it's unbelievable. Good takedown defense. We've only

1605
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 7: really seen him struggle with like islam Maker cheb. Right,

1606
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 7: other than that, that long body at fifty five holds

1607
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 7: up well against you know, some takedowns, and he hasn't

1608
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 7: fought a guy like Gamrod. He shoots every five seconds,

1609
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 7: and I'm glad the forty five experiments done when he

1610
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 7: went down to forty five for r and Allen.

1611
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 2: What are we doing here?

1612
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 7: You know, the guy's fucking massive back up to fifty

1613
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 7: five looking healthy. And Gamrod's interesting dude, because Gamera has

1614
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 7: a chin on him for days. I mean, benildro a

1615
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 7: us slaying it. One of the cleanest right hands I've seen. Yes,

1616
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 7: it put him down, but the didn't put him out.

1617
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 7: This dude's runs through fire. He's gonna run through some knees, elbows.

1618
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 7: Dan Hooker's gonna be looking nasty in there. But I

1619
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:52,640
Speaker 7: just think Gamra is gonna have just too much to

1620
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 7: offer in the wrestling For Dan Hooker.

1621
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 2: I don't know how.

1622
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 7: I mean, Dan Hooker's gonna be a problem taking down houses,

1623
01:14:58,479 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 7: get up game. How's the jujits you off his back?

1624
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 7: We've only seen a little bit. Gamrod is known for that.

1625
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 2: That's what he does. He hustles, and he's striking a

1626
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 2: little bit more too.

1627
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 7: I mean, let's not forget he knocked out Ralphael Vazive,

1628
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 7: so I don't see him knocking out Dan Hooker.

1629
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 2: Dan Hooker is a beast, but I do see him

1630
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:14,480
Speaker 2: winning the decision. I hope it's competitive.

1631
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 7: I hope it's an absolute bloody fight of the year war,

1632
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 7: which is exactly what I think it's going to be.

1633
01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:22,679
Speaker 7: But I do just think Gamroth has that extra gear

1634
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 7: and he's right there as well. I mean, Dan Hooker wins,

1635
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:27,679
Speaker 7: he doesn't get a tip shot. Gamrot wins. He's looking

1636
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:29,640
Speaker 7: at an elimination there. So there's more in line from

1637
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 7: Gamron going to Dan Hooker side of the world. I

1638
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 7: like Gamrot here. The number is a little high for me,

1639
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 7: so I'm not gonna play it, but I like Gamroon Bright.

1640
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:38,759
Speaker 7: Who's your favorite fighter?

1641
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 2: Guy? That such a loaded question now that I've been

1642
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 2: gambling so much. I don't know.

1643
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 7: I mean, probably Chris Callas will be the easiest answer.

1644
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 7: Danny Barlow was up there. I mean he disappointed me

1645
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 7: a little bit last night, but he got the left

1646
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 7: hand of God.

1647
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 6: Man.

1648
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:54,639
Speaker 7: I mean, is he was up there for a while.

1649
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 7: I've liked a lot of guys, you know, Kenny, who's

1650
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 7: your favorite? Is my favorite fighter? Kenny?

1651
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 3: I'm talking about active, right, I mean Kenfilow is not active,

1652
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:04,679
Speaker 3: has not been active for thirteen years.

1653
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 2: Ken Flow, who's your favorite fighter? Gosh?

1654
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 6: Man?

1655
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 2: Uh, I don't know, man. Maybe maybe that's Holloway. I

1656
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 2: mean yeah, yeah, fucking bless mother.

1657
01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 3: Yeah answer, that's a good answer. So Dan Hooker might

1658
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 3: be my favorite fighter, but also in my top fifteen.

1659
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 3: I bring this up because dude, Dan Hooker, like when

1660
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 3: I watch him with fans and on a microphone and

1661
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 3: in octagon like, dude, like I want to buy Dan

1662
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:38,760
Speaker 3: Hooker merchandise. So he might be my favorite fighter here

1663
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 3: as we sit here in twenty twenty four. But also

1664
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 3: in my top fifteen is the stoic, thoughtful, respectful Mattauge

1665
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 3: Gamrock Kenny. When you hear his American Top Team teammates

1666
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 3: talk about him ravingly as teammate and training partner and athlete,

1667
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:58,640
Speaker 3: it just feels like if this dude doesn't one day

1668
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 3: compete for the UFC champion, it's only because one hundred

1669
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 3: and fifty five pounds is really tough. What do you

1670
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 3: make of Gamroth as money seemingly continues to come in

1671
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 3: on him as a near three to one favorite right

1672
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 3: now against your favorite fighter's favorite fighter, Dan the Hangman Hooker.

1673
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 2: Remember that fight against Armin sarukion Ah.

1674
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:20,720
Speaker 4: That was awesome, all right, So you know Gamrod is

1675
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:23,720
Speaker 4: gonna be a tough matchup for Dan Hooker, who and

1676
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 4: I totally get it, John Dan Hooker is one of

1677
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 4: the most exciting fighters.

1678
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 2: In this sport. The dude is all hard.

1679
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 4: He's always going to be dangerous on the feet, his height,

1680
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 4: his ability to time strikes, his fighters come in. You

1681
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 4: know he's gonna He's never gonna quit. But this is

1682
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 4: a tough matchup for him, just based on the tremendous

1683
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 4: wrestling of Gamrod, who not only is a great wrestler,

1684
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 4: but he can submit you as well. And on his

1685
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 4: best day, he's a damn problem.

1686
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 2: Is he healthy?

1687
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 4: I hope so, because if he's not one hundred percent healthy,

1688
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:02,679
Speaker 4: Dan Hulk Hooker can win this fight, make no bones

1689
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 4: about it.

1690
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 2: He can, And yeah, I think this is gonna be interesting.

1691
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:11,719
Speaker 4: But assuming that both are healthy, both are at their best,

1692
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 4: I think just is one of those fights stylistically that's

1693
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:16,640
Speaker 4: gonna give Dan Hooker problems.

1694
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 2: Now.

1695
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 4: I don't think Gamron is quite at the Islam Maha

1696
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 4: chef type of level control and submit you style of game,

1697
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:28,760
Speaker 4: but he's right about there. It's enough to be able

1698
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 4: to do that, and I think because of that, that's

1699
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 4: why we see Gamrot as the favorite. I like him

1700
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 4: here and I think this is another one for him

1701
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 4: to prove himself that he is potentially elite in this

1702
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 4: very tough division.

1703
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 2: Hooker number eleven in the world. He wanted this fight.

1704
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 3: He has won his last two, the stoppage of Claudio

1705
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 3: pooh Yes and of course the unforgettable split decision win

1706
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 3: over Jalen Turner. We'll see how it goes for him

1707
01:18:56,240 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 3: this weekend right Co main event, a flyweight eliminator. At

1708
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 3: least from my bandage point, recent title challenger Steve Erseg

1709
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 3: minus two thirty Kaikotta France plus one ninety. You know,

1710
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 3: I thought Ken flow and I'll lead with you on

1711
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 3: the comin event that Erseg beat Pantosia three rounds to two.

1712
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:16,559
Speaker 3: I thought it was a close fight, and I guess

1713
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:18,639
Speaker 3: I pray that doesn't get back to the champion, whom

1714
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:19,599
Speaker 3: I absolutely adore.

1715
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 2: But I think Erseg proved so many.

1716
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 3: Things on this night without really what you would want

1717
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 3: for a championship training camp in advance of a fight

1718
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 3: that took place so far from home in Brazil against Pantosia.

1719
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 3: Minus two thirty seems like a big number given everything

1720
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 3: the kay Cotta France has accomplished, but I understand why

1721
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 3: Steve erseg is getting this type of respect. And then

1722
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:45,520
Speaker 3: you have the fourteen month layoff for Kaikotta France. Fascinating,

1723
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 3: huge fight at one twenty five Kenny, and uh, we'll

1724
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 3: have you lead us off on the UFC three zero

1725
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 3: five Comain.

1726
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 2: Event, Joanna Anika. I heard you what you say about

1727
01:19:54,840 --> 01:20:01,799
Speaker 2: my Last Man show. Some respecs man very bad. Steve Hersik,

1728
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:05,000
Speaker 2: He's like, he's just Jeff Geiman, but you know, beach

1729
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 2: me man. Sorry, alright, no, I mean poo.

1730
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 7: At this point, I'll never be able to do my

1731
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 7: own voice that good, let alone any other voice.

1732
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 2: Dude. No, And honestly, it's like all I want to

1733
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 2: hear every week on the show.

1734
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 3: And if people want us to kill the pronunciation of

1735
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 3: the week as they do, then maybe we'll just do that.

1736
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 2: Kempflo has to do that once a week. We need

1737
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 2: to pick though, all right, yeah, yeah, probably get to that. Listen.

1738
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 4: You know, Ersa, that was a really close fight, man.

1739
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:40,839
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not sure he won, but there's definitely

1740
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 4: an argument that he did win. I was so impressed

1741
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:47,720
Speaker 4: with this kid's composure to do that in Brazil. You

1742
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:51,959
Speaker 4: know in his first title fight that shows he's special

1743
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 4: and I think that he's going to make massive improvements

1744
01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 4: from that last fight. Does he have a tough fight

1745
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 4: and Kai Kata France, though, yes he does. I think

1746
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:08,799
Speaker 4: KKF is a very dangerous striker. He's very potent, especially

1747
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 4: early on, like when he gets a beat on, you

1748
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 4: watch out. He may just run away with this fight.

1749
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:18,559
Speaker 4: But Erse having the huge height advantage, I don't think

1750
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 4: Kai car Franz is gonna be able to get into

1751
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 4: his rhythm as quickly as he would like. Not to mention,

1752
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 4: Erseg is a fantastic striker, and he knows how to

1753
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 4: mix things up. He knows how to put you on

1754
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 4: your back, and I think it's on the ground where

1755
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:33,720
Speaker 4: he will really take advantage in this fight, based on

1756
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 4: his length, based on his jiu jitsu prowess, I think

1757
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 4: that's where he can win this fight and look good

1758
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:42,840
Speaker 4: in his home nation. Love this fight for him, and

1759
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 4: this is another one for people to say, yeah, Ersig's

1760
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:48,639
Speaker 4: legit give him the next title shot.

1761
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:51,679
Speaker 2: So I like ersek here in this spot is gonna

1762
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 2: be a great fight.

1763
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:56,719
Speaker 3: This Steve Irsag, this calculated killer. I see him liking

1764
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 3: Kai Kata France's posts on Instagram. It seems like there's

1765
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 3: a lot of congeniality here in mutual respect between these

1766
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:03,120
Speaker 3: two athletes.

1767
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 2: Briy kay Catta France has lost his last two.

1768
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 3: He got finished by Brandon Moreno of course the body

1769
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 3: shot what he fought for the interim flyweight title. Then

1770
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 3: lost a contentious split against a Mirra al Bozi that

1771
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 3: was the main event at the Apex last June. He

1772
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:16,759
Speaker 3: was to fight Manel Cop he was concussed in training

1773
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 3: and now a huge opportunity for him here to potentially

1774
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 3: stamp himself a number one contender in a division that

1775
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:24,639
Speaker 3: doesn't have an obvious title challenger.

1776
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 2: So who do you have for us? Brian Petrie in

1777
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 2: the co main event?

1778
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 7: Real quick, going back to Dan Hooker. A gentleman named

1779
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 7: Douglas Appleman from Massachusetts who did my outro my podcast

1780
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 7: did a Dan Hooker rap. And I know you're a

1781
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 7: fan of Dan Hooker. Yeah, you're a fan of hip hop.

1782
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 7: I'll send you the link. He emailed it to me.

1783
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:44,559
Speaker 7: It's it's it's really good. It's really it's his favorite fighter.

1784
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 2: So do you remember? And I love it?

1785
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 3: Like during COVID when Dan Hooker is like behind a

1786
01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:53,960
Speaker 3: fence looking at his daughter in New Zeala way right,

1787
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:55,879
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, he landed.

1788
01:22:56,520 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 2: Wait fourteen, that's that's crazy? Sid. Should I get a

1789
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 2: Dan Hooker tattoo? Like right now?

1790
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 3: Like?

1791
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:05,519
Speaker 2: What would I get? Just don't get the last name?

1792
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 2: Just don't get the last name? What if you just

1793
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 2: just probably wouldn't be great?

1794
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 3: Hang man, I you know I'm not gonna get the

1795
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:18,560
Speaker 3: word scratch just to scratch tattooed on my body. I

1796
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 3: don't know that I want another man's face on my

1797
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:21,719
Speaker 3: body unless it's Kenny's.

1798
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 2: Can you can you get it in the damage font

1799
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 2: on your chair?

1800
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 3: Due? Just get like a little Kiwi look, he's a key.

1801
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 3: We give a little Kiwi Look. I'm getting a fucking

1802
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 3: green Kiwi tattoo. My favorite colors green.

1803
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm getting a green Kiwi fruit tattooed on my arm.

1804
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 2: Hornful of little miniature tattoos are adorable. I love it. Yeah?

1805
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 2: Where the funk were we? Am I gonna get fired? No?

1806
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 2: We're on her saying I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Go ahead,

1807
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:57,720
Speaker 2: love Steve. Last time you fall, people were wondering why

1808
01:23:57,720 --> 01:23:58,599
Speaker 2: I say he fucks.

1809
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:02,720
Speaker 7: Let me mind, he looks like a teacher I had

1810
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 7: in high school who also might have been a porno star,

1811
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 7: So why stever Fox. Also, he's in a phenomenal fighter.

1812
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 7: The fight with Panto is so close. It's one of

1813
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 7: those fights I'm a bad judge. It's one of those

1814
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 7: fights where I'm like, either guy could win. I'm not

1815
01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:17,440
Speaker 7: gonna complain.

1816
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 2: It was that competitive. But he impressed the shit out

1817
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 2: of me with his just.

1818
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 7: Everything, his overall game and like Kenny said, his presence,

1819
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:27,800
Speaker 7: his calmness, his willingness to engage in areas that some

1820
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:32,679
Speaker 7: people drowned when they engage pantosia. He survived and possibly won.

1821
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:35,639
Speaker 7: Now you got kay, call France who has decent takedown defense.

1822
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 7: His historically is powerful, a little small for the division,

1823
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 7: Like I mean, he's good such of the vision, but long,

1824
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 7: you know, shorter for the division is a little bit taller,

1825
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:49,439
Speaker 7: isn't your traditional like bull wrestler. He creates scrambles off, striking, off,

1826
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 7: jumping on backs, off, pulling guards. Sometimes he's a wild

1827
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 7: dude to handle, and I think that's where he's gonna

1828
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 7: give Kai problems is in these exchanges, these weird scrambles.

1829
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:01,519
Speaker 7: Kay's gonna to take down off the cage. He's gonna

1830
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 7: get his back taken and then it's Erse's world.

1831
01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:03,599
Speaker 6: Right.

1832
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 7: Kay has some good submission defense, we've seen it, but

1833
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:08,680
Speaker 7: erseg it is a problem, I think, and I think

1834
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:11,439
Speaker 7: with confidence riding high, he's not a guy to buy

1835
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 7: into his own sauce. Because everyone was kind of, you know,

1836
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:16,680
Speaker 7: talking about him a lot after Pantosia. I think this

1837
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 7: dude's level headed. I think he's happy to fight in

1838
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 7: Perth and he's ready to put on a show. And

1839
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 7: I think he has all the tools to do it.

1840
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:26,679
Speaker 7: And I would love for a submission finisher or kai kara.

1841
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 7: That might be a little ambitious, depending what the betting

1842
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:31,479
Speaker 7: line is. Well, give me Steve Verseg.

1843
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 2: I like Steve Verg. Sorry lot. All right.

1844
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 3: That brings us to the main event at UFC three

1845
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 3: h five for the outdisputed midway title. Israel odd de

1846
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 3: Sonya de Sonya minus one thirty five. Drinkis Duplessi is

1847
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 3: plus one fourteen. We asked our Anakin Florian podcast listeners

1848
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:49,680
Speaker 3: and viewers. I know Ken Flow is very excited to

1849
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 3: predict this man event.

1850
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 2: We'll be with you Ken Flow. That's fine, we'll lead

1851
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 2: with you.

1852
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 3: But we asked our Anakin Florian podcast listeners to predict

1853
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 3: this fight, and some people are wondering why I mentioned

1854
01:25:59,360 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 3: is he first?

1855
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:02,759
Speaker 2: We always list the betting favorite first, that is Izzy.

1856
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:05,559
Speaker 3: He is minus one thirty five on DraftKings Sportsbook Right now,

1857
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 3: Drake is du plus CE title defense number one. Kenny

1858
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 3: comes back at plus one fourteen. So what a fascinating fight,

1859
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 3: so many different layers to it. Kenny, You and I

1860
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 3: for the Anak and Florian rewinded UFC fight Pass, went

1861
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 3: back and watched Drakes Du plus c's UFC debut and

1862
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:23,680
Speaker 3: a lot of the things aesthetically that he's criticized for.

1863
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 3: Even at this point in time, we're omnipresident the UFC debut,

1864
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:30,600
Speaker 3: but even as we saw him chase a finish, he

1865
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 3: is responsible defensively. His fight IQ seemingly is higher than

1866
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:37,639
Speaker 3: the masses want to believe, and there's a plus number

1867
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 3: next to his name as he defends the title here

1868
01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 3: with a pretty good training camp in front of it,

1869
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:43,639
Speaker 3: you know, six or seven months of recovery and rest

1870
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:47,799
Speaker 3: and getting the right training partners. Your thoughts on duplus

1871
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 3: see Adasania and the South African's ability to extend his

1872
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 3: reign here in title defense number one.

1873
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:56,240
Speaker 4: Gosh, you know, I watched a bunch of tape on

1874
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 4: both of these guys. I'm not sure I'm any close

1875
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 4: sure to the answer that I was before. It almost

1876
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:06,799
Speaker 4: seems to kind of confuse a little bit because Dricus's approach,

1877
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:10,080
Speaker 4: and we've talked about this many times, is extremely unorthodox,

1878
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 4: but it is effective, isn't it.

1879
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 2: He gets the win at the end of the day.

1880
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:16,000
Speaker 2: Now is it good enough on.

1881
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:20,680
Speaker 4: A technical level to avoid taking punishment from someone like Adasania?

1882
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:22,599
Speaker 2: I'm not so sure.

1883
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 4: Can that keep him alive for twenty five minutes? It may,

1884
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 4: because he is extremely durable.

1885
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:31,680
Speaker 2: But where he.

1886
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:34,719
Speaker 4: Wins this fight more than anything else on a technical level,

1887
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:40,880
Speaker 4: is by rushing out of Sonya at angles, being unorthodox,

1888
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 4: fainting a lot, and putting Ada Sonya on his back.

1889
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:47,400
Speaker 4: I think that's where he can win this fight, and

1890
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 4: if that happens, I would not be the least surprised.

1891
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 4: Dracus is that good and it's great to see him

1892
01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:57,479
Speaker 4: finally get get that respect. I also think there's a

1893
01:27:57,560 --> 01:28:00,879
Speaker 4: small component to him being under Estate made it because

1894
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 4: of that style, So that has served him well. What

1895
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 4: I'm saying is Adasania is fighting him at the right time.

1896
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 4: He knows enough about Drincki's two plus that this is

1897
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:15,600
Speaker 4: not a fluke. He needs to take him extremely seriously.

1898
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 4: And to compound that even further, Adisania is facing him

1899
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 4: coming off of a loss.

1900
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:24,680
Speaker 2: When was the last time we saw Atto Sonya come

1901
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 2: off a loss. It was after he got stopped versus Pereira.

1902
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:29,680
Speaker 2: What did he do?

1903
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 4: He came back to defeat that very same man who

1904
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 4: is now dominating at two hundred and five pounds Atasnia

1905
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:40,599
Speaker 4: has been at the top for a very long time

1906
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 4: and one of the most difficult things I've never been there.

1907
01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:46,800
Speaker 4: From what I hear, is staying at the top and

1908
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:52,759
Speaker 4: keeping that level of motivation high. I think Adasania perhaps

1909
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:55,160
Speaker 4: was a victim of that. I also think he was

1910
01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:57,559
Speaker 4: a little bit too proud to take that time off

1911
01:28:57,640 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 4: when he needed to against Strickland. So I think we're

1912
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:03,559
Speaker 4: going to see an Ada Sonya that is truly at

1913
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:04,120
Speaker 4: his best.

1914
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:06,799
Speaker 2: I think he's saying all the right things.

1915
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:10,560
Speaker 4: I've been a fan of Adasanya since before he was

1916
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:11,640
Speaker 4: in the UFC.

1917
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:13,760
Speaker 2: So perhaps I'm a little biased. I am also a

1918
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:15,640
Speaker 2: fan of drinks tuplus C.

1919
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 4: But I think Adasania is kind of being forgotten about

1920
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 4: a little bit too much now. We look too much

1921
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:26,759
Speaker 4: into the results as opposed to the things behind the result,

1922
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:30,640
Speaker 4: and I think Adasanya is poised very well here to

1923
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 4: come back, win this fight and then perhaps get revenge

1924
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:38,040
Speaker 4: against Sean Strickland and then maybe call it a career.

1925
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:44,400
Speaker 4: I think Atasnya is a fantastic martial artist. He's made mistakes, yes,

1926
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:47,519
Speaker 4: but I also think he's pretty honest with himself in

1927
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:49,600
Speaker 4: order to fix those things, and I think that's what

1928
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:52,479
Speaker 4: we're going to see here. I expect a fantastic fight,

1929
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:55,759
Speaker 4: but I like this Sonya Kenny.

1930
01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:57,599
Speaker 3: You look pretty good on that isolation shot. You look

1931
01:29:57,640 --> 01:29:59,320
Speaker 3: pretty lean. You look like you need to eat something

1932
01:29:59,360 --> 01:29:59,720
Speaker 3: after the.

1933
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:04,080
Speaker 2: I'm trying to lean out kid. I'm getting jumby chub flow.

1934
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:04,920
Speaker 2: It needs to go.

1935
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:09,880
Speaker 3: So uh Bri Israel Desagna Drinkist dupless c for the

1936
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:13,479
Speaker 3: undisputed UFC Middleweight Championship. We have certainly seen on social

1937
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:17,280
Speaker 3: media the strengthened conditioning commitment from the last style bender

1938
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:21,800
Speaker 3: Israel Desagnja. We also for UFC Fight Pass went back

1939
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:24,479
Speaker 3: and watched Izzy's UFC debut, and one thing that I

1940
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:28,560
Speaker 3: remarked upon was just how free flowing he was defensively

1941
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:33,280
Speaker 3: somersaulting in reverse out of a takedown attempt if memory

1942
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:36,920
Speaker 3: serves against Rob Wilkinson, and you know, I think there

1943
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:39,600
Speaker 3: has been a certain tightness at times right If you

1944
01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:41,960
Speaker 3: want to reference the Jared Cannoneer fight at UFC two

1945
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:45,160
Speaker 3: seventy six, a measured approach from Izzy, he has suggestive

1946
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:47,280
Speaker 3: that we are not going to see that type of

1947
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 3: measurement in this matchup obviously has some heat and friction.

1948
01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:54,559
Speaker 3: I'm not looking forward to thirty seven hours door to door,

1949
01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:56,799
Speaker 3: but I can't wait to get to Perth, Western Australia.

1950
01:30:56,840 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 2: BP. Who'd he have for us in the mintment?

1951
01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:01,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, I've rewatched Isy's debut as well, and the one

1952
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:03,640
Speaker 7: thing I noticed mostly is Rob Wilkes is looking a

1953
01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:04,559
Speaker 7: little different nowadays.

1954
01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:06,559
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not gonna say much. It's a little

1955
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:11,599
Speaker 2: different nowadays. But man, what a main event.

1956
01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:13,880
Speaker 7: Like you asked me who my favory fighter was, it

1957
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:15,920
Speaker 7: might be easy. I got a poster over here from

1958
01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:18,120
Speaker 7: when I saw him fight Kem Gasam in Atlanta. One

1959
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:20,439
Speaker 7: of the best events I've ever been to in my life.

1960
01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:22,360
Speaker 2: And I love his dyeh.

1961
01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:24,360
Speaker 7: I love his personality. I love the way he carries himself.

1962
01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:27,640
Speaker 7: I love his fighting ability, his striking, his flawless. I mean,

1963
01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:31,240
Speaker 7: the only really argument or only frustration I have is

1964
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:33,720
Speaker 7: sometimes he sets back a little too much, But you

1965
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:35,800
Speaker 7: know that's just nitpicking, you know, I think the guy's

1966
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 7: a phenomenal mixed martial artists. And on the flip side,

1967
01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:42,080
Speaker 7: I've been really negative towards Drekker's Duplus's If you go back,

1968
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:44,759
Speaker 7: I put like all the money I had on Robert

1969
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:47,640
Speaker 7: Winner could beat him, and he embarrassed me, right, And

1970
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:53,160
Speaker 7: I've known I've gotten to really appreciate Dupless's style because

1971
01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:57,879
Speaker 7: it's sloppy. I'm a very striking snob and it's sloppy,

1972
01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:01,639
Speaker 7: but it's purposeful. There there's a reason that it's there

1973
01:32:01,680 --> 01:32:04,400
Speaker 7: as coaches, and it changed too much. It's very awkward.

1974
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:07,479
Speaker 7: Rich Franklin fought very awkward, and du plus C is

1975
01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:10,320
Speaker 7: this big bull of a man who fights awkward but

1976
01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:12,840
Speaker 7: it works and if he hits you and he's confident.

1977
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:15,639
Speaker 7: I watched the Countdown show, He's like, I'm gonna walk

1978
01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 7: through Strickland's jabs and he's like, oh yeah, I forgot

1979
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:20,400
Speaker 7: my eyes gonna swell, let me change things up. He

1980
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:22,200
Speaker 7: switched South Paul against Whitaker.

1981
01:32:22,280 --> 01:32:24,720
Speaker 2: This is a thinking guy as well. His coaches are

1982
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:25,680
Speaker 2: very smart and.

1983
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:28,400
Speaker 7: I have grown to appreciate du plus c for what

1984
01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:31,360
Speaker 7: he is and he's kind of an originator. With that style,

1985
01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:33,200
Speaker 7: You're not going to see many people with that, and

1986
01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:35,479
Speaker 7: that's what throws me pause here. I have never picked

1987
01:32:35,479 --> 01:32:38,360
Speaker 7: against Izzy ever in his UFC career. I've wrote him

1988
01:32:38,439 --> 01:32:40,160
Speaker 7: to the top. I've made a lot of money off

1989
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:41,679
Speaker 7: is he you know what I mean, lost some money

1990
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:43,519
Speaker 7: on the a lot of money, the most money ever

1991
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:46,720
Speaker 7: lost in the Yambolohovic fight. But anyway, I've written him

1992
01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:49,439
Speaker 7: to the top, never picked against him. And then you

1993
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:52,240
Speaker 7: go to the Sean Strickland fight where he looked unmotivated.

1994
01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:54,040
Speaker 7: He looked he want to be there and strong has

1995
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:57,479
Speaker 7: a very unique awkward style as well the shell boxing

1996
01:32:57,560 --> 01:32:59,680
Speaker 7: and his mostly hands. He throws a weird front kick.

1997
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:03,160
Speaker 7: He's all about distant management. Du plus C he's a

1998
01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:05,320
Speaker 7: little bit different where he's in your face. He's going

1999
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:07,000
Speaker 7: for it, but it is awkward. He keeps his head

2000
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:08,280
Speaker 7: off a weird set of line.

2001
01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:11,040
Speaker 2: He bends over differently, it's all different setup.

2002
01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:14,760
Speaker 7: Du plus C could get caught by Izzy without a doubt,

2003
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:17,320
Speaker 7: because Izzy is that good, he is that elite. But

2004
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:19,680
Speaker 7: I just don't know, because I think du plus C

2005
01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:22,840
Speaker 7: is going to mix up so many takedowns with his

2006
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:25,880
Speaker 7: striking and just make it ugly and really churn one

2007
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:28,599
Speaker 7: out here. So for the first time ever, I'm going

2008
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:32,080
Speaker 7: against Izzy. I'm going the underdog. I'm going and still

2009
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:36,200
Speaker 7: I'm picking Jacker's du plus C probably the win by decision.

2010
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:39,320
Speaker 7: I wouldn't be surprised if we get a late stoppage.

2011
01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:41,479
Speaker 7: I is, he doesn't get tired, but you know he's

2012
01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:43,599
Speaker 7: adding a lot of muscle. We saw when John Jones

2013
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:46,200
Speaker 7: at a muscle again OVID Saint Pru he didn't look

2014
01:33:46,280 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 7: his best, So you know, we'll see what happens.

2015
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:50,439
Speaker 2: But I'm going to do plus C.

2016
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:53,280
Speaker 3: You're going duplus he to churn one out and hopefully

2017
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:57,519
Speaker 3: I don't use that exact verbiage on Live Yeah TV. Yeah,

2018
01:33:57,560 --> 01:33:59,880
Speaker 3: all right, Place your bets Rocky by John Anick dot

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2021
01:34:09,439 --> 01:34:11,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pu update the standings here.

2022
01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:14,160
Speaker 3: First, UFC Fight Night to Bor versus Spivok two, Petrie

2023
01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:18,439
Speaker 3: was at plus five twenty six seventy six left handed God.

2024
01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:20,640
Speaker 3: He got Danny Barlow home at minus three twenty five

2025
01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:23,320
Speaker 3: for five hundred that paid out plus one fifty three

2026
01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 3: eighty five. Chepe Modscal was a hit at minus two

2027
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 3: eighteen four hundred, paid one eighty three forty nine. He

2028
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:31,280
Speaker 3: did give one hundred back on Longos guys. Phill a

2029
01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:34,240
Speaker 3: productive week though, plus two thirty Yeah, you work close

2030
01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:37,120
Speaker 3: close on plus two thirty seven thirty four. Year today

2031
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 3: for Brian Petrie plus seven sixty four to ten Team Florian.

2032
01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:44,599
Speaker 3: You hit on Chepe at minus two eighteen six hundred

2033
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:48,599
Speaker 3: dollars yielded two seventy five twenty three. But you did

2034
01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:51,479
Speaker 3: give four hundred dollars back on Longos guys, So one

2035
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:53,760
Speaker 3: twenty four seventy seven in the negative for the week

2036
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:54,880
Speaker 3: puts you at minus five oh.

2037
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Speaker 2: Four to sixteen for the year.

2038
01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:58,840
Speaker 3: The team Patrie lead his biggest of twenty twenty four

2039
01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:02,479
Speaker 3: twelve one hundred and sixty eight dollars and twenty sixcess.

2040
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:04,280
Speaker 3: But let me remind you Ken fill had a four

2041
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:06,920
Speaker 3: figure lead. Yeah, three or four weeks ago. You got

2042
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:09,240
Speaker 3: a race, babe, We have a race, and you guys

2043
01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:11,000
Speaker 3: get two thousand dollars for pay per views. So a

2044
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:14,160
Speaker 3: big opportunity here for Ken Flow to make a charge. Kenny,

2045
01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:16,200
Speaker 3: you've led this competition for most of the year. We'll

2046
01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:19,479
Speaker 3: have you lead off with your bets today. Two thousand

2047
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Speaker 3: dollars to spend at UFC three oh five.

2048
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Speaker 2: Not gonna lie.

2049
01:35:23,240 --> 01:35:25,600
Speaker 4: BP's making me a little nervous with some of his

2050
01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:30,240
Speaker 4: picks and the fact that he does have this significant lead. Okay,

2051
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:34,040
Speaker 4: cool a beow nice, get it done. Give me four

2052
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:38,240
Speaker 4: hundred on koola bow. There's no drinking before the fight, please,

2053
01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:41,600
Speaker 4: uh damn.

2054
01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:43,240
Speaker 2: Rock five hundred dollars.

2055
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:49,280
Speaker 4: Wow, oh yeah, oh yeah, my guy er seg first

2056
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:51,719
Speaker 4: of all, guys, stop sending me pictures of her segment

2057
01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:53,000
Speaker 4: like I thought this was key Florian.

2058
01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:55,439
Speaker 2: Okay, stop sending me this ship. Okay, I get it.

2059
01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:59,559
Speaker 2: We look alike. Noses supposed to be good at fighting.

2060
01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:02,519
Speaker 2: I got I don't think I don't see that. You

2061
01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:05,280
Speaker 2: get a lot, you get, like a lot of people,

2062
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 2: that one that completely misses me.

2063
01:36:07,479 --> 01:36:09,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, listen, you know we don't have to be

2064
01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:11,680
Speaker 4: all right, okay, so give me a five hundred on

2065
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:15,840
Speaker 4: herth sake. He's my guy though at of Sonya aut

2066
01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 4: of Sonya, give me six hundred. Let's go easy, let's go.

2067
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:27,560
Speaker 4: I want to see that creative yeah wuid motivated spiritual

2068
01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:28,800
Speaker 4: martial artists in there.

2069
01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:31,680
Speaker 2: If that's the guy, nobody beats him. You know what

2070
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:33,080
Speaker 2: I thought we were getting from Kenflo.

2071
01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:35,320
Speaker 3: And by the way, we do have Sportsnet MMA reporter

2072
01:36:35,439 --> 01:36:37,679
Speaker 3: Aaron Brown said, are coming up here in about sixty seconds.

2073
01:36:37,680 --> 01:36:38,960
Speaker 2: I'm ten minutes late for my guy.

2074
01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:40,680
Speaker 3: But I did think Ken Flow was going two k

2075
01:36:40,840 --> 01:36:44,200
Speaker 3: ot aut of Sonia today, and at least I'm wrong. Yeah, Brian,

2076
01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:45,680
Speaker 3: what do you have for us two thousand dollars with

2077
01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:48,040
Speaker 3: which to spend here a UFC three holl It's gonna.

2078
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:51,240
Speaker 7: Be interesting after Saturday, man, because I got five hundred

2079
01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:56,000
Speaker 7: on and new Jegers du bless and still and still, mate,

2080
01:36:56,120 --> 01:36:59,639
Speaker 7: Jesus Christ, can you give the champion a modicum of respect?

2081
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:04,040
Speaker 7: And fucking still? I apologize. I'm getting excited here. I

2082
01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:06,480
Speaker 7: got five hundred on call those proctests.

2083
01:37:08,120 --> 01:37:11,760
Speaker 2: I got five hundred on the man who fucks Steve seig.

2084
01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:17,160
Speaker 7: I got three hundred on Josh Coolabau yep, and then

2085
01:37:17,200 --> 01:37:20,880
Speaker 7: I got tied to a vasa by Ko two hundred dollars.

2086
01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:21,640
Speaker 2: I likes it.

2087
01:37:23,479 --> 01:37:26,120
Speaker 3: Nicely done at Brian Petrie MMA check out his podcast,

2088
01:37:26,400 --> 01:37:29,120
Speaker 3: MMA Takes My Man Outstanding work on UFC three ZHO

2089
01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:31,320
Speaker 3: five And we're sitting here Sunday, August eleven, so enjoy

2090
01:37:31,400 --> 01:37:33,360
Speaker 3: the weekend. Uh, we'll talk to you to recap the

2091
01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:35,519
Speaker 3: fuck out of this thing come Tuesday, Buddy one.

2092
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:38,000
Speaker 2: Two things real quick. Yeah, congratulations everyone this show. We're

2093
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:38,840
Speaker 2: getting nominated again.

2094
01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:41,360
Speaker 7: Congratulations to the guy coming after me ab He's a

2095
01:37:41,400 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 7: first class dude getting nominated. And Thursday, I'm going live

2096
01:37:45,240 --> 01:37:47,680
Speaker 7: on my YouTube channel with Evan Longoria. We're breaking down

2097
01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:49,799
Speaker 7: the entire car. So let's go John House.

2098
01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:50,600
Speaker 2: Safe try outstanding.

2099
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:53,960
Speaker 3: Thank you, Buddy, I think sixteen year Major League Baseball

2100
01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:56,519
Speaker 3: veteran Evan Longoria with Brian Petrie coming up later this

2101
01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:58,160
Speaker 3: week but now joining us on the guest line.

2102
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Speaker 2: You follow him on Instagram at A or if X as.

2103
01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:05,800
Speaker 3: You're choosing at Aaron Bronstettter, decorated MMA reporter from Sportsnet

2104
01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:07,400
Speaker 3: in the Great Nation of Canada.

2105
01:38:07,439 --> 01:38:08,559
Speaker 2: Aaron bronstetters with us.

2106
01:38:08,560 --> 01:38:08,760
Speaker 3: A b.

2107
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:10,360
Speaker 2: It's great to see as always, brother.

2108
01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:13,120
Speaker 6: Thank you, my dude. Yeah, high energy coming after Petrie.

2109
01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:13,320
Speaker 3: You know what.

2110
01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:15,640
Speaker 6: I'm a listener of this show, so I've got to

2111
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:17,680
Speaker 6: say P three Stepped Up is shot a lot like

2112
01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:20,160
Speaker 6: as somebody who is kind of a stickler for production,

2113
01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:22,360
Speaker 6: I gotta say, Petree shot that's a lot better than

2114
01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:23,000
Speaker 6: it did a year ago.

2115
01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:25,040
Speaker 3: Well that's good. That's good for us to hear. You know,

2116
01:38:25,160 --> 01:38:27,600
Speaker 3: we continuously invest in this program, So thank you for

2117
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:30,240
Speaker 3: saying that. Kemflo has actually got a new microphone here today.

2118
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:33,439
Speaker 3: So I have so many different things that I want

2119
01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:34,880
Speaker 3: to get to with you, and I love the fact

2120
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:36,760
Speaker 3: that I don't have to send you any sort of

2121
01:38:36,840 --> 01:38:38,880
Speaker 3: questions in advance because you're always ready to go on

2122
01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:41,640
Speaker 3: a number of different topics. First of all, are you

2123
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:44,639
Speaker 3: flying to Perth, Western Australia for UFC three ZHO five.

2124
01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:46,439
Speaker 6: I'm not, you know, I wish I was.

2125
01:38:46,479 --> 01:38:46,680
Speaker 4: I was.

2126
01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:49,320
Speaker 2: Congratulations, No, congrat's.

2127
01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:51,160
Speaker 6: To visit the quaka population just off the coast of

2128
01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:53,760
Speaker 6: You heard of what a quaka is. Yeah, it's like

2129
01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:55,920
Speaker 6: the world's happiest animal. You can only see them like

2130
01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:56,519
Speaker 6: in that part.

2131
01:38:56,400 --> 01:38:56,840
Speaker 2: Of the world.

2132
01:38:57,200 --> 01:38:59,479
Speaker 6: So you should get the barry over there and visit

2133
01:38:59,520 --> 01:38:59,920
Speaker 6: the quaka.

2134
01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:02,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'm not going to be the world's happiest

2135
01:39:02,439 --> 01:39:05,639
Speaker 3: mammal getting ready for this thirty seven hour jount here tomorrow.

2136
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:09,000
Speaker 3: So dude, Western Australia, that's like the end of the

2137
01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:13,519
Speaker 3: fucking Perth bro Like, I can't go further from South Florida.

2138
01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:15,720
Speaker 3: So am I even allowed to ask, like why you're

2139
01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:16,360
Speaker 3: not going?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 3: I mean, for me, I'll spend almost as much time

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Speaker 3: in transit as I will on the ground.

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Speaker 2: Is that part of it or no?

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Speaker 6: No, I just typically don't send me out. Was aut

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Speaker 6: in North America, So okay. You know, I get to

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Speaker 6: forgo thirty seven hours of travel, which sounds like an

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Speaker 6: absolute nightmare. So I'm sorry you have to endure that.

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Speaker 2: But well that's okay, but you.

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Speaker 6: Do get the best seat in the house. I mean,

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Speaker 6: you know, you get trade offs.

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Speaker 3: There's no doubt about it. Well, we appreciate you joining us,

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01:39:38,439 --> 01:39:43,080
Speaker 3: especially on a Sunday. I was watching Beach Volleyball Women's

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Speaker 3: final yesterday Canada versus Brazil, and my son Hunter, who

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01:39:46,479 --> 01:39:48,960
Speaker 3: is six, asked me who I was rooting for and

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01:39:49,080 --> 01:39:52,679
Speaker 3: I said Brazil, and my three children were rooting for Canada.

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01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:54,719
Speaker 3: And they asked me why I was rooting for Brazil,

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01:39:54,760 --> 01:39:56,519
Speaker 3: and I said, well, I've been there thirty times. I

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01:39:56,560 --> 01:39:58,920
Speaker 3: didn't think about any sort of North American allegiance in

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Speaker 3: that moment. I feel like I have a connection to

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Speaker 3: that nation just based upon my professional work.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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01:40:05,120 --> 01:40:07,200
Speaker 6: Oh hey, I hear you, and I wasn't watching it all,

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Speaker 6: So I mean, here for whoever you want.

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Speaker 2: It's here for. Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it doesn't bother me whatsoever.

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01:40:12,720 --> 01:40:15,880
Speaker 3: So I have so many different things I want to

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01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:17,200
Speaker 3: ask you about, but I guess i'll lead with this

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Speaker 3: main event between Driekustu plus C and Israel.

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Speaker 2: Adds Sonya as you call him.

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Speaker 3: You're the only guy who can actually say his entire

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01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:25,960
Speaker 3: name with the four middle names and everything else. But

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01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:31,160
Speaker 3: where is your enthusiasm relative to other championship fights in

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01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:32,960
Speaker 3: recent UFC history?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it's exciting because you don't really get

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01:40:35,120 --> 01:40:38,160
Speaker 6: a chance in the modern era to see a champion

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01:40:38,280 --> 01:40:39,960
Speaker 6: lose the belt twice and then try to win it

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Speaker 6: a third time, like we've seen Randy Getur do it

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01:40:42,160 --> 01:40:45,880
Speaker 6: way back in the day. You're former broadcast colleague. Yeah, Kenny,

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Speaker 6: but we saw John Jones do it under kind of

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01:40:49,200 --> 01:40:52,640
Speaker 6: different circumstances. But for Israel, I think it's really an

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01:40:52,720 --> 01:40:55,160
Speaker 6: interesting story to see if he can capture I mean,

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Speaker 6: thirty five years old, that's a good age from middleweight.

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Speaker 6: And you know, I think that this is an interesting

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01:41:00,479 --> 01:41:03,439
Speaker 6: fight because Dracas has not lost at middleweight since he

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01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:05,240
Speaker 6: was twenty years old. It's been ten years since he's

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01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:07,639
Speaker 6: lost the middleweight fight, and that loss was the Gareth

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01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:10,040
Speaker 6: McClellan right before I went to the UFC, so probably

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Speaker 6: the biggest name in his country in that weight class

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Speaker 6: at age twenty, he loses that fight, which certainly he

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01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:17,200
Speaker 6: can't hold against him at this point in time. He

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01:41:17,439 --> 01:41:19,720
Speaker 6: just looked great at middleweight, and I've always found him

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Speaker 6: to be underrated, Like I was one of the few

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Speaker 6: people that thought he would beat Robert Whitaker by knockout.

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Speaker 6: Like I just had a lot of faith in what

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Speaker 6: he was doing. That's like maybe my one pat on

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Speaker 6: the back, because usually I'm really bad with these predictions.

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Speaker 6: So I'm gonna hold onto that one and cling to

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Speaker 6: it for dear life. But yeah, you know it's in Australia.

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Speaker 6: That's where is he lost the belt. And I spoke

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Speaker 6: to Israel this past week and I said to him, like,

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Speaker 6: I've never in my time covering the sport seen an

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Speaker 6: athlete take just eleven months away from the cage, and

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01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:45,680
Speaker 6: it feels like it's been three years. Like that's what

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01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:47,800
Speaker 6: it feels like with Israel because of all of the

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Speaker 6: activity that he's had over the years, Like there was

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Speaker 6: one year, I think it was like twenty sixteen where

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01:41:52,280 --> 01:41:54,479
Speaker 6: he fought like thirteen times in a year, Like this

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Speaker 6: is just a guy who is incredibly active overall. And

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Speaker 6: when I say thirteen times, that was a mix of

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Speaker 6: kickboxing and made before someone fact checks me. But yeah,

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Speaker 6: I have a lot of interest in seeing whether Israel

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Speaker 6: Mobology Tima Tioa is able to recapture the title for

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Speaker 6: a third time. No notes, no notes, So good.

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Speaker 2: That's amazing, dude.

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Speaker 4: So do you think, though, at a certain point that

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01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:25,200
Speaker 4: that has been both a blessing and a curse because

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01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:28,360
Speaker 4: he's been so busy. You know that it made him

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01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:30,800
Speaker 4: the star who he is, but also may have maybe

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01:42:31,120 --> 01:42:32,840
Speaker 4: caused him to run out a little bit of gas.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that's accurate?

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01:42:34,400 --> 01:42:35,960
Speaker 6: One hundred percent, and that's what I spoke to him

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Speaker 6: about this past week, and that was kind of the

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01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:42,400
Speaker 6: narrative that I'm interested in with him. Is I've heard

2224
01:42:42,439 --> 01:42:46,320
Speaker 6: a lot of fighters say this. When you're active, it's

2225
01:42:46,360 --> 01:42:48,599
Speaker 6: a blessing because you make more money and you can,

2226
01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:50,439
Speaker 6: you know, do what you love to do. But you're

2227
01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:53,800
Speaker 6: always focused on another person. You're focused on whoever your

2228
01:42:53,840 --> 01:42:56,160
Speaker 6: next opponent's going to be. Whereas when you have time

2229
01:42:56,360 --> 01:42:58,479
Speaker 6: and you're not focused, you're not worried about your upcoming fight,

2230
01:42:58,520 --> 01:43:00,719
Speaker 6: and you're not booked, you have the phus on yourself.

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Speaker 6: And I think that that's so important in mixed martial

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01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:06,120
Speaker 6: arts and Israel has never had that. So for him

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Speaker 6: to be able to take that time and say I'm

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Speaker 6: going to just sit back, let's see what happens with

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Speaker 6: this division, and I'll come back when I'm ready to

2236
01:43:11,560 --> 01:43:14,040
Speaker 6: come back, I think that that's such a healthy thing

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Speaker 6: for him to do, because at a point, I think

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Speaker 6: that it starts to almost border on addiction, Like when

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Speaker 6: you're so addicted to the feeling of going through a

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Speaker 6: training camp and cutting weight and fighting and having to

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Speaker 6: get in there and face off against another person that

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01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:32,080
Speaker 6: you don't really get a chance to have perspective, and

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Speaker 6: I think that that really has helped him over this

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01:43:34,479 --> 01:43:37,200
Speaker 6: last year. Now how it will manifest itself in the cage,

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Speaker 6: whether he feel like he has a rust. I mean,

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Speaker 6: eleven months is not that big of a deal for

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01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:43,400
Speaker 6: most people, but because he's always been so active historically,

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Speaker 6: maybe it will feel like a big deal. Not to mention,

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Speaker 6: it's back in Australia where he'd lost the title and

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Speaker 6: it's a different city, but these little things can always

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01:43:50,800 --> 01:43:53,080
Speaker 6: kind of fester in. Also, Drake is like he's one

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01:43:53,120 --> 01:43:55,120
Speaker 6: hell of a fighter, so you know we have to

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Speaker 6: take that into consideration as well.

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Speaker 4: Very well, put where right you put the hunt and

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Speaker 4: eight five pound division as far as competition right now,

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Speaker 4: because right now I think it's at its strongest that

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Speaker 4: I've been a part of the UFC have been watching.

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Speaker 2: I think it's absolutely stacked right now.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, this isn't the division that's historically had a ton

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Speaker 6: of great contenders at one time. Whitaker has come back

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01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:21,240
Speaker 6: into his own. He's looking great. He's facing Shamaiev, who

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01:44:21,280 --> 01:44:25,360
Speaker 6: could easily, you know, ascend into being a title challenger

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Speaker 6: with a win over Robert Whittaker, and you had Drake

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Speaker 6: guess you as Sean Strickland, who's kind of just chilling

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01:44:30,280 --> 01:44:32,680
Speaker 6: on the sidelines. Brendan Allen has looked very good. You know,

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Speaker 6: Chris Curtis gave Brendan Allen all that he can handle,

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Speaker 6: so I certainly want to give Chris Curtis some respect

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Speaker 6: as well. I just think that right now the division

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01:44:40,400 --> 01:44:42,880
Speaker 6: is at a really great point when it comes to

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Speaker 6: rising challenges. And I should also mention Kyle Bohalio fights

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Speaker 6: yere soon. Not to mention Kennany is the last guy

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Speaker 6: to beach on Strickland. So like there's this merry go

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Speaker 6: round of really solid and im Avov just beat Kennedy.

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Speaker 2: Ar Like, there's just like that.

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Speaker 6: There's a lot of names right now. We haven't seen

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01:44:57,200 --> 01:44:59,000
Speaker 6: that in Middle eight in a long long time.

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Speaker 3: Aaron Broun said, or with us, you're live on the

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01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:05,320
Speaker 3: Anakin Florian podcast. What were your thoughts in the immediate

2279
01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:09,920
Speaker 3: aftermath of stever Seg versus a la Chandre Pantosia, if

2280
01:45:09,960 --> 01:45:11,360
Speaker 3: you recall it was.

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Speaker 6: You better rank this guy in the top three because

2282
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:15,240
Speaker 6: he just gave the champion all that he could handle,

2283
01:45:15,800 --> 01:45:18,040
Speaker 6: and it was one round the way fifth round from

2284
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Speaker 6: winning the championship in you know, an unbelievable performance and

2285
01:45:22,880 --> 01:45:24,559
Speaker 6: they didn't like I think he did. What ranked ninth

2286
01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:27,439
Speaker 6: makes an absolutely no sense to me that they would

2287
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Speaker 6: rank this guy ninth after the performance he just put

2288
01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:31,599
Speaker 6: up against a champion, Like I understand that he might

2289
01:45:31,640 --> 01:45:33,840
Speaker 6: have been ranked whatever, eleventh or something before that fight.

2290
01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:35,600
Speaker 6: I don't know what it was, but to have that

2291
01:45:35,720 --> 01:45:38,080
Speaker 6: kind of a performance where you have never been tested

2292
01:45:38,120 --> 01:45:41,439
Speaker 6: at that high of a level in your career, like

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01:45:41,640 --> 01:45:44,679
Speaker 6: to me, he's a top three guy, Like I understand

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01:45:44,680 --> 01:45:46,840
Speaker 6: why he's a minus two twenty five or whatever. His

2295
01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:50,360
Speaker 6: favorite over Kaykar France was coming back off of an injury.

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Speaker 6: I think that Ers is the real deal, and I'm

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01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:55,439
Speaker 6: excited to see what he can do, you know, at

2298
01:45:55,479 --> 01:45:57,479
Speaker 6: the cement because maybe he gets another title shot. That

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01:45:57,560 --> 01:46:00,360
Speaker 6: that fight was so close that he could that being

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Speaker 6: the front runner for the next title shot at flyweight.

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Speaker 3: All right, I did want to ask you as we

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Speaker 3: segue from the middleweights at UFC three to ZHO five

2303
01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:18,320
Speaker 3: to the main event at UFC three oh four, so

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Speaker 3: we have a new champion at one hundred and seventy pounds.

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Speaker 3: A B it is BALaw Mohammad Chicago, Illinois. I know

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Speaker 3: you talked about your forecast of Drinks du plus e

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Speaker 3: versus Robert Whitaker, but what was your forecast for Mohammad

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Speaker 3: Edwards act too, and how did the fight play out,

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01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:36,960
Speaker 3: maybe relative to those expectations coming in.

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Speaker 6: Well, my post picks every week, and my pick for

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01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:41,360
Speaker 6: that fight was bal Mohammad plus five and a half.

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01:46:41,920 --> 01:46:43,760
Speaker 6: So my thought was it's going to be a close

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01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:46,240
Speaker 6: fight that Balal is either gonna win or he's gonna

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01:46:46,280 --> 01:46:48,760
Speaker 6: lose by a close decision, maybe a split decision. That

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01:46:48,960 --> 01:46:53,120
Speaker 6: was my temperature going into that fight, and obviously he delivered.

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01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:55,120
Speaker 6: You know, I had faith in Balhal Mohammad. I wasn't

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Speaker 6: one of these guys that took anything away from that

2318
01:46:56,880 --> 01:46:58,960
Speaker 6: first fight. I've seen how good this guy's been. I've

2319
01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:02,000
Speaker 6: seen how much as striking has evolved, how comfortable he's

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01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:03,680
Speaker 6: become on the feet, and I knew that if he

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01:47:03,760 --> 01:47:05,759
Speaker 6: was able to mix those two things up in concert,

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01:47:06,120 --> 01:47:09,320
Speaker 6: he can beat anybody, like especially somebody who he stylistically

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01:47:09,320 --> 01:47:12,840
Speaker 6: I think matches up pretty well against, like Leon Edwards.

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Speaker 6: The hesitation that I had was his age. You know,

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Speaker 6: historically we haven't seen anybody who's a title challenger of

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Speaker 6: that age win a title at one hundred and seventy

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01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:23,599
Speaker 6: pounds in below in any division where they've been able

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01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:26,599
Speaker 6: to uncount a reigning champion. So you know, I had

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01:47:26,720 --> 01:47:30,160
Speaker 6: some hesitations there just historically, but I knew that Ballal

2330
01:47:30,320 --> 01:47:31,800
Speaker 6: was going to be game for this fight and that

2331
01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:35,680
Speaker 6: he had a good chance of winning the fight. You know,

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01:47:35,720 --> 01:47:37,280
Speaker 6: a couple of things that a couple of takeaways I

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01:47:37,320 --> 01:47:39,559
Speaker 6: haf in that fight, and one I love your way,

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01:47:39,640 --> 01:47:41,720
Speaker 6: John Adnack, because you know, I'll start off with a

2335
01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:43,880
Speaker 6: Stephen A. Smith backhanded compliment by saying you're one of

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01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:45,960
Speaker 6: the greatest play by play guys to walk this God's

2337
01:47:45,960 --> 01:47:49,080
Speaker 6: green earth at this moment. But I think that you

2338
01:47:49,320 --> 01:47:51,160
Speaker 6: got a little bit flustered by people saying you might

2339
01:47:51,200 --> 01:47:53,280
Speaker 6: be biased for this fight, and when you were calling

2340
01:47:53,320 --> 01:47:55,120
Speaker 6: the fight, you were kind of hanging in third gear,

2341
01:47:55,400 --> 01:47:56,640
Speaker 6: Like I feel like you could have gone at the

2342
01:47:56,640 --> 01:47:59,360
Speaker 6: fourth or fifth gear because because of the historical performance

2343
01:47:59,360 --> 01:48:02,360
Speaker 6: of balal Maha and how dominant he was in that fight,

2344
01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:04,479
Speaker 6: I feel like you could have given him even more love.

2345
01:48:04,720 --> 01:48:07,200
Speaker 6: I know people would have criticized you, but I feel

2346
01:48:07,240 --> 01:48:09,799
Speaker 6: like you could have given like you were almost too professional,

2347
01:48:10,040 --> 01:48:13,000
Speaker 6: Like that's my insult, my insult, my critique for you.

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01:48:13,120 --> 01:48:15,160
Speaker 6: So you were professional in the moment because I feel

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01:48:15,160 --> 01:48:17,400
Speaker 6: like you were worried that people thought might have thought

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Speaker 6: you were being too much of a homer, so to speak.

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Speaker 6: Did you feel the same way after the fight, like

2352
01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:23,680
Speaker 6: watching it back, did you feel the same way. This

2353
01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:26,559
Speaker 6: is my curiosity for you where I turned into the interviewer.

2354
01:48:26,640 --> 01:48:29,120
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, I mean, I guess I feel like there

2355
01:48:29,160 --> 01:48:32,040
Speaker 3: were times where maybe I could have leaned a little

2356
01:48:32,080 --> 01:48:35,760
Speaker 3: bit more into that, but I wasn't certainly thinking about

2357
01:48:35,800 --> 01:48:39,040
Speaker 3: that in the moment. And you know, I don't know, man,

2358
01:48:39,120 --> 01:48:44,519
Speaker 3: It's a tricky exercise times to any really fight right.

2359
01:48:44,680 --> 01:48:46,960
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not trying to piss Balal off either,

2360
01:48:47,080 --> 01:48:48,960
Speaker 3: and you can be sure there have been many times

2361
01:48:48,960 --> 01:48:51,400
Speaker 3: where I have done that, you know. So I'm just

2362
01:48:51,560 --> 01:48:54,280
Speaker 3: trying to do right by all of these fighters. You know,

2363
01:48:54,640 --> 01:48:57,879
Speaker 3: I said this week in one of the media appearances,

2364
01:48:57,920 --> 01:49:00,080
Speaker 3: I did I get a message from Oban Elliott And

2365
01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:03,439
Speaker 3: it starts, Hey, I just watched my fight back, and

2366
01:49:03,560 --> 01:49:06,080
Speaker 3: that's all I could see of the message before I

2367
01:49:06,120 --> 01:49:07,920
Speaker 3: could open it up, and I just pray that what

2368
01:49:08,120 --> 01:49:11,759
Speaker 3: comes after is thanks for everything you said as opposed

2369
01:49:11,800 --> 01:49:14,679
Speaker 3: to I really took issue with this because you know, AB,

2370
01:49:14,840 --> 01:49:16,680
Speaker 3: you're in the same position. Like my next question for

2371
01:49:16,760 --> 01:49:18,439
Speaker 3: you was going to be I am just a lot

2372
01:49:18,479 --> 01:49:20,560
Speaker 3: of content that you do. But I I didn't know

2373
01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:23,560
Speaker 3: that you picked every fight, and I wonder how you

2374
01:49:23,680 --> 01:49:25,920
Speaker 3: navigate that exercise and if fighters come up to you, Hey,

2375
01:49:25,960 --> 01:49:27,479
Speaker 3: I saw you picked against me in the last fight.

2376
01:49:27,479 --> 01:49:29,120
Speaker 2: Because Ken Flow hates that I make him pick all

2377
01:49:29,120 --> 01:49:29,559
Speaker 2: these fights.

2378
01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:32,080
Speaker 6: Uh, yeah, I don't pick all the fights. I pick

2379
01:49:32,520 --> 01:49:34,479
Speaker 6: the ones that I think are you know, I guess

2380
01:49:34,560 --> 01:49:36,680
Speaker 6: my favorite picks. So like what I think is the

2381
01:49:36,720 --> 01:49:40,120
Speaker 6: most likely scenario, and yeah, that has happened. Then this

2382
01:49:40,280 --> 01:49:42,960
Speaker 6: is the thing. It's like, might pick doesn't matter at

2383
01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:45,360
Speaker 6: all to how you perform a fight. That's the way

2384
01:49:45,400 --> 01:49:47,800
Speaker 6: that I think about it is like if you if

2385
01:49:47,840 --> 01:49:49,400
Speaker 6: you want to prove like I want you to prove

2386
01:49:49,479 --> 01:49:51,599
Speaker 6: me wrong, Like please come up to me and say

2387
01:49:51,680 --> 01:49:53,639
Speaker 6: you picked against me and I won. It's like good

2388
01:49:54,080 --> 01:49:55,840
Speaker 6: Like that that's what I would like to see happen,

2389
01:49:56,240 --> 01:49:58,600
Speaker 6: because like I'm just some guy, Like what does it

2390
01:49:58,640 --> 01:50:00,439
Speaker 6: make a difference. I don't know how good your training

2391
01:50:00,479 --> 01:50:03,080
Speaker 6: camp has been or anything along those lines, like yeah,

2392
01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:05,360
Speaker 6: you know, I'm happy to be wrong in those situation

2393
01:50:05,439 --> 01:50:07,679
Speaker 6: doesn't make a difference to me either way. So please,

2394
01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:10,560
Speaker 6: like win, win and prove me wrong. Or if you

2395
01:50:10,600 --> 01:50:12,479
Speaker 6: don't win and I am right, then I'm sorry, Like

2396
01:50:12,960 --> 01:50:15,040
Speaker 6: do better next time, or maybe you'll get a better

2397
01:50:15,040 --> 01:50:17,080
Speaker 6: stylistic matchup next time and you won't be facing like

2398
01:50:17,120 --> 01:50:19,360
Speaker 6: a young up and comer. I don't know, Like the

2399
01:50:19,400 --> 01:50:21,360
Speaker 6: game's the game, and a lot of.

2400
01:50:21,360 --> 01:50:23,400
Speaker 4: Fighters, and a lot of fighters kind of take it

2401
01:50:23,479 --> 01:50:25,599
Speaker 4: personally because they think you're coming from a certain lane

2402
01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:26,320
Speaker 4: or a certain bias.

2403
01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:27,960
Speaker 2: It's like, no, no, I'm just giving my opinion. I

2404
01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:29,840
Speaker 2: don't I don't hate you, I don't like you. I'm

2405
01:50:29,920 --> 01:50:33,240
Speaker 2: just the way anal And if you proved me wrong, awesome, yeah,

2406
01:50:33,840 --> 01:50:34,479
Speaker 2: one hundred percent.

2407
01:50:34,680 --> 01:50:37,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just analysis and sorry. My other takeaway from

2408
01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:40,320
Speaker 6: the Balall fight, what's it so, Dave? What's what's the

2409
01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:40,920
Speaker 6: last name? Dave?

2410
01:50:41,880 --> 01:50:46,240
Speaker 3: Dave? I know, there's Mike Valley, there's Mike Cannonry Leon's coach.

2411
01:50:46,720 --> 01:50:48,120
Speaker 2: Oh, Dave level Dave Levell.

2412
01:50:49,640 --> 01:50:52,200
Speaker 6: Between rounds four and five, Dave Levell tried to do

2413
01:50:52,320 --> 01:50:54,760
Speaker 6: another screaming at Leon Edwards and trying to get like

2414
01:50:54,880 --> 01:50:57,360
Speaker 6: him to to have a sense of urgency like that

2415
01:50:57,439 --> 01:51:00,400
Speaker 6: that works once at the championship, Like I I love

2416
01:51:00,840 --> 01:51:02,599
Speaker 6: what he's bringing and I love the energy in the corner,

2417
01:51:02,840 --> 01:51:04,439
Speaker 6: but you've got to know in that moment where you've

2418
01:51:04,439 --> 01:51:06,560
Speaker 6: got to say, hey, Leon, we're down. You need a

2419
01:51:06,600 --> 01:51:08,040
Speaker 6: ten eate to retain the title, or you need to

2420
01:51:08,080 --> 01:51:10,840
Speaker 6: get a finish like Tenny will get you a draw.

2421
01:51:11,439 --> 01:51:14,240
Speaker 6: Like the corners need to do a better job of

2422
01:51:14,360 --> 01:51:17,280
Speaker 6: scoring the fight in their mind and giving their fighter

2423
01:51:17,600 --> 01:51:20,400
Speaker 6: at least almost an open scoring scenario where it's like, hey,

2424
01:51:21,280 --> 01:51:23,680
Speaker 6: you could be up three, you could be up, it

2425
01:51:23,760 --> 01:51:26,400
Speaker 6: could be tied, or but you're most likely down three

2426
01:51:26,439 --> 01:51:29,680
Speaker 6: to one. Like that's the kind of message that the

2427
01:51:29,760 --> 01:51:31,720
Speaker 6: fighter needs in that moment, is like hey Leon, you

2428
01:51:31,800 --> 01:51:33,040
Speaker 6: need a ten eight or you need to finish or

2429
01:51:33,040 --> 01:51:35,200
Speaker 6: we're gonna lose the belt if you scream at him.

2430
01:51:35,600 --> 01:51:38,880
Speaker 6: That worked that one time against tomorrow, it's not gonna

2431
01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:41,439
Speaker 6: work again at the championship level. And that's like my

2432
01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:43,479
Speaker 6: one takeaway from that point where I was watching between

2433
01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:45,320
Speaker 6: rounds four and five and Dave Leavelle was freaking out

2434
01:51:45,320 --> 01:51:47,439
Speaker 6: again and trying to get his guy worked up, and

2435
01:51:47,560 --> 01:51:49,479
Speaker 6: I think that there's somebody captioned it and Leon kind

2436
01:51:49,479 --> 01:51:52,599
Speaker 6: of swore at him. If I'm not mistaken, Yeah, because

2437
01:51:52,640 --> 01:51:55,240
Speaker 6: that only works once. Listen, Like as a fighter, I

2438
01:51:55,320 --> 01:51:57,920
Speaker 6: can give you that one time, but that's not gonna work,

2439
01:51:58,160 --> 01:52:02,680
Speaker 6: like I need messages in the corner, like I need,

2440
01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:04,800
Speaker 6: I need a real strategy. I need to know where

2441
01:52:04,880 --> 01:52:07,479
Speaker 6: I'm at. If you're screaming at me like at some

2442
01:52:07,600 --> 01:52:09,200
Speaker 6: point in time, that's not gonna work.

2443
01:52:09,520 --> 01:52:12,599
Speaker 4: Especially when it wasn't a listless performance like he was trying.

2444
01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:15,160
Speaker 4: It wasn't like he needed motivation to try, right, he

2445
01:52:15,360 --> 01:52:17,439
Speaker 4: was trying his ass off. It was more at that

2446
01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:20,200
Speaker 4: point like understand that, hey, you need some technical info

2447
01:52:20,880 --> 01:52:22,880
Speaker 4: to get it done, as opposed let's go.

2448
01:52:23,080 --> 01:52:25,160
Speaker 2: You gotta do you know, he was already in it

2449
01:52:25,240 --> 01:52:26,120
Speaker 2: anyway in my opinion.

2450
01:52:26,320 --> 01:52:28,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, And the real story at UFC two seventy eight

2451
01:52:29,160 --> 01:52:31,560
Speaker 3: was Fabian Edwards and not Dave Leavelle right with the

2452
01:52:31,680 --> 01:52:32,679
Speaker 3: in round advice.

2453
01:52:33,320 --> 01:52:35,200
Speaker 2: But I digress, all right, if you want to.

2454
01:52:35,200 --> 01:52:37,880
Speaker 3: Follow Aaron at Aaron bronstet or on X and if

2455
01:52:37,920 --> 01:52:39,400
Speaker 3: you do want to vote for this man in the

2456
01:52:39,479 --> 01:52:43,200
Speaker 3: category of MMA Journalist of the Year World MMA Awards

2457
01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:45,840
Speaker 3: dot Com slash vote now and I'll get you out

2458
01:52:45,880 --> 01:52:48,040
Speaker 3: of here on this. And I continue to admire your

2459
01:52:48,080 --> 01:52:50,000
Speaker 3: work both from Afar and when I see you in person.

2460
01:52:51,080 --> 01:52:54,360
Speaker 3: But you are in an MMA craze nation, And even

2461
01:52:54,439 --> 01:52:57,320
Speaker 3: though your nation is much smaller than the United States

2462
01:52:57,400 --> 01:52:59,920
Speaker 3: and can't lay claim to the wild mixed martial arts

2463
01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:03,360
Speaker 3: success that this country has had, there's no denying how

2464
01:53:03,439 --> 01:53:05,320
Speaker 3: big this sport is in your country. So I guess

2465
01:53:05,360 --> 01:53:08,680
Speaker 3: I'm curious how often when you're out with your three

2466
01:53:08,800 --> 01:53:11,360
Speaker 3: children or otherwise, people are coming up to you and saying, hey, man,

2467
01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:13,760
Speaker 3: I appreciate your work and let's get this octagone back

2468
01:53:13,760 --> 01:53:14,320
Speaker 3: to Montreal.

2469
01:53:15,160 --> 01:53:17,639
Speaker 6: I'd say it's very rare. It didn't happen all that often.

2470
01:53:17,640 --> 01:53:19,559
Speaker 6: I don't know if it's people in Canada are very respectful,

2471
01:53:19,640 --> 01:53:23,560
Speaker 6: like you don't see a lot of Canadians approach. I

2472
01:53:23,640 --> 01:53:26,559
Speaker 6: guess I'm not going to call myself celebrity, but people

2473
01:53:26,600 --> 01:53:29,519
Speaker 6: that are, you know, on TV or public figure, public figures.

2474
01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:31,760
Speaker 6: There you go, that's a good one. So you know,

2475
01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:36,120
Speaker 6: it happens from time to time, but not all that often. Yeah,

2476
01:53:36,439 --> 01:53:39,000
Speaker 6: which is good. I prefer to have kind of my anonymity,

2477
01:53:39,080 --> 01:53:41,320
Speaker 6: like it's happened to me. That's a handful of time.

2478
01:53:41,760 --> 01:53:43,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you're always.

2479
01:53:43,479 --> 01:53:45,160
Speaker 6: Pointing out the metal count right now, but you know what,

2480
01:53:45,280 --> 01:53:47,320
Speaker 6: the medal count isn't that important compared to the per

2481
01:53:47,400 --> 01:53:50,120
Speaker 6: capita medal count per capital were we have more metal

2482
01:53:50,160 --> 01:53:52,320
Speaker 6: than America. So just saying I'm just putting it out there,

2483
01:53:52,680 --> 01:53:53,800
Speaker 6: per capita more medals.

2484
01:53:54,040 --> 01:53:56,360
Speaker 3: I wasn't even talking about the Olympics. I was talking

2485
01:53:56,439 --> 01:53:59,080
Speaker 3: about relative mixed martial arts success because one thing that

2486
01:53:59,160 --> 01:54:01,439
Speaker 3: I have put upon on the radar of my broadcast

2487
01:54:01,479 --> 01:54:05,400
Speaker 3: partner Daniel Cormier, is the wild success that the United

2488
01:54:05,520 --> 01:54:08,200
Speaker 3: States of America has had in the UFC and an

2489
01:54:08,280 --> 01:54:10,800
Speaker 3: m m A. It is pretty profound, that's all.

2490
01:54:11,120 --> 01:54:13,519
Speaker 6: Oh dred percent. Yeah, I was actually trying to come

2491
01:54:13,600 --> 01:54:15,680
Speaker 6: up with a Canadian Mma Olympic team today. In just

2492
01:54:15,720 --> 01:54:17,840
Speaker 6: my head, it was kind of and uh, you know,

2493
01:54:18,040 --> 01:54:19,800
Speaker 6: they had pank creation in the Olympics and now they're

2494
01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:22,519
Speaker 6: bringing in like break dancing and three on three basketball thing,

2495
01:54:22,640 --> 01:54:25,320
Speaker 6: but bring back pank creation. We need pank creation back

2496
01:54:25,400 --> 01:54:27,799
Speaker 6: in the Olympics. You can, you might, you can modernize

2497
01:54:27,800 --> 01:54:29,960
Speaker 6: it and colored mixed martial arts, just saying you might

2498
01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:32,760
Speaker 6: you might want to just do that. But that's my question. Hey,

2499
01:54:32,800 --> 01:54:34,240
Speaker 6: before I go, John, I got I got a question

2500
01:54:34,360 --> 01:54:36,280
Speaker 6: for you. I got a question for you. So we're

2501
01:54:36,280 --> 01:54:39,000
Speaker 6: talking about Izzy. Yeah, we talked about a deaths on you.

2502
01:54:39,120 --> 01:54:41,960
Speaker 6: And I remember this clearly. I was in It was

2503
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:45,560
Speaker 6: either Boston or Anaheim. Yeah, and I think it was Anaheim.

2504
01:54:45,880 --> 01:54:48,400
Speaker 6: And I heard you at the top of a broadcast

2505
01:54:48,440 --> 01:54:51,880
Speaker 6: a steep d miacic. Yeah, faces Daniel Cormier tonight. Now

2506
01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:53,560
Speaker 6: it was either that or against Francis. And I said

2507
01:54:53,560 --> 01:54:55,120
Speaker 6: to the person sitting next to me, go, I guess

2508
01:54:55,120 --> 01:54:59,680
Speaker 6: that's how it's pronounced, because it was always my myosich iosich.

2509
01:54:59,760 --> 01:55:02,840
Speaker 2: Until his UFC debut, he was myosick miosick.

2510
01:55:02,960 --> 01:55:05,000
Speaker 6: Yeah. So until stevee stepped in, it was like, it's

2511
01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:08,840
Speaker 6: actually miachic. We've had Israel say it's a des sonya

2512
01:55:09,000 --> 01:55:12,280
Speaker 6: for a while. Yeah, is that going to be on

2513
01:55:12,360 --> 01:55:14,720
Speaker 6: the broadcast? Like at what point? And I'm sure it's

2514
01:55:14,720 --> 01:55:17,280
Speaker 6: not your call, but when are we going to start

2515
01:55:17,320 --> 01:55:19,520
Speaker 6: hearing adas sonya on the UFC broadcast?

2516
01:55:19,680 --> 01:55:20,040
Speaker 2: All Right?

2517
01:55:20,160 --> 01:55:22,520
Speaker 3: So here's the thing. There have been times where I

2518
01:55:22,640 --> 01:55:25,120
Speaker 3: have mixed it in on pay per view, right. But

2519
01:55:25,240 --> 01:55:27,920
Speaker 3: if you listen to Izzy on the audio file that

2520
01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:30,440
Speaker 3: he recorded in advance of his UFC debut in twenty

2521
01:55:30,520 --> 01:55:34,240
Speaker 3: eighteen at UFC two twenty one, as he was off

2522
01:55:34,360 --> 01:55:38,240
Speaker 3: referred to myriad times during his kickboxing career, he said,

2523
01:55:38,360 --> 01:55:41,400
Speaker 3: Israel adess sonya or excuse me, he said Israel ada sonya, right,

2524
01:55:41,920 --> 01:55:44,440
Speaker 3: So that was the first thing we heard. Then he

2525
01:55:44,680 --> 01:55:48,360
Speaker 3: says it in a way that maybe you hear adess sonya.

2526
01:55:48,520 --> 01:55:48,640
Speaker 2: Right.

2527
01:55:49,160 --> 01:55:51,400
Speaker 3: So before one of his title defenses. Actually, I think

2528
01:55:51,440 --> 01:55:53,720
Speaker 3: we were in Melbourne in twenty nineteen before he unified

2529
01:55:53,760 --> 01:55:56,040
Speaker 3: the Belts with Robert Whitaker. His parents were in our

2530
01:55:56,120 --> 01:55:59,240
Speaker 3: fighter meeting and we had the conversation at that time

2531
01:55:59,280 --> 01:56:01,720
Speaker 3: about the cern where we going to change it at

2532
01:56:01,760 --> 01:56:04,360
Speaker 3: that point in time to ads sonya or stay with

2533
01:56:04,440 --> 01:56:06,600
Speaker 3: out a sonya, and we made the decision at that

2534
01:56:06,640 --> 01:56:09,720
Speaker 3: point in time. His father was like, outa sonya is good,

2535
01:56:10,040 --> 01:56:11,880
Speaker 3: and we moved on at that point in time. So

2536
01:56:12,160 --> 01:56:15,320
Speaker 3: there are times where I'll mix it in, But unless

2537
01:56:15,480 --> 01:56:17,440
Speaker 3: he's going to come and try to affect change as

2538
01:56:17,480 --> 01:56:19,280
Speaker 3: far as how we pronounce his last name, you're not

2539
01:56:19,320 --> 01:56:23,000
Speaker 3: going to hear us pivoting to ads Sonya in twenty

2540
01:56:23,080 --> 01:56:23,480
Speaker 3: twenty four.

2541
01:56:23,680 --> 01:56:24,320
Speaker 2: Is that a good answer.

2542
01:56:24,400 --> 01:56:26,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a wonderful That's perfect because I think a

2543
01:56:26,320 --> 01:56:28,800
Speaker 6: lot of people have wondered that. Oftentimes he'll say everybody

2544
01:56:28,840 --> 01:56:31,000
Speaker 6: says it wrong. It's like, but you know, I feel

2545
01:56:31,040 --> 01:56:34,480
Speaker 6: like if if you had heard from him that he

2546
01:56:34,600 --> 01:56:36,240
Speaker 6: wants it to be said the other way, you would.

2547
01:56:36,040 --> 01:56:36,320
Speaker 2: Have done it.

2548
01:56:36,360 --> 01:56:38,480
Speaker 6: Because that's one hundred people are like names for you,

2549
01:56:38,720 --> 01:56:41,360
Speaker 6: I think are like of in terms of the importance

2550
01:56:41,400 --> 01:56:43,680
Speaker 6: of things in life. Like pronouncing someone's name right is

2551
01:56:43,760 --> 01:56:46,200
Speaker 6: like very high on you, like higher than any other

2552
01:56:46,280 --> 01:56:49,040
Speaker 6: human beings list is like, you know, making sure that

2553
01:56:49,080 --> 01:56:50,080
Speaker 6: you pronounce someone's name right.

2554
01:56:50,320 --> 01:56:53,000
Speaker 3: Well, it goes back to Josh Saman, the late great

2555
01:56:53,200 --> 01:56:56,920
Speaker 3: human being Josh Saman's UFC debut, when he pushed out

2556
01:56:56,960 --> 01:56:58,640
Speaker 3: some sort of tweet, you know, I finally get to

2557
01:56:58,680 --> 01:57:00,840
Speaker 3: the UFC. All my family and friends are watching, and

2558
01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:03,720
Speaker 3: I'm Josh Samon all night, you know, And that's a

2559
01:57:03,800 --> 01:57:05,840
Speaker 3: hard thing, right, So we try to get it right

2560
01:57:05,840 --> 01:57:08,240
Speaker 3: as best we can, and always getting it right. Is

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Speaker 2: We'll miss him Perth, buddy, but we'll see on the

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Speaker 2: road in the in the near future. Buddy. Thanks for

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Speaker 2: the time on a Sunday, especially my men.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, sir, I'll see you at the sphere.

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Speaker 3: We'll see It's September fourteenth in Las Vegas. Aaron Browns

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Speaker 3: that are with us here live on the Anakin Flooring

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Speaker 3: Podcast and hopefully people have enjoyed the U two hour

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Speaker 3: ground constantly at these UFC live events.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to everybody.

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Speaker 2: I'll do that. Yeah, It'll be a b for Ken

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Speaker 2: Flea to be sure. I'm just fucking around.

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Speaker 3: But thanks to everybody for indulging us for the UFC

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Speaker 2: Is that accurate? That is accurate. I'll be in Las

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Speaker 4: We'll actually going to be at the T Mobile Arena,

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Speaker 4: which is great. Yeah, We're growing bigger and bigger every time.

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Speaker 2: Man, So excited.

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Speaker 3: our executive producer Cody Merril, thanks to Shawn she and

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Speaker 3: Brian Petrie Aaron Bronsteader. We'll try to check back in

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Speaker 3: UFC three oh five. But thank you all for listening,

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Speaker 3: for watching, for supporting the show. Let's rock the boat.

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Speaker 3: We'll see you guys next week. Until then, wheels up,

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Speaker 3: You'll fucking later.

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Speaker 2: Bread