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Speaker 1: Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: In hour number three Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, we

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Speaker 2: got a bunch of stuff to dive into and update

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Speaker 2: you on. We've been talking about the alleged revelations involving

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Speaker 2: Trump Butler Pa Assassin, what he said online, what his

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Speaker 2: motivations appear to have been. We opened up the program

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Speaker 2: talking about that. Miranda Devine will be a guest on

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Speaker 2: the program tomorrow. She has written a substantial article about

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Speaker 2: it for The New York Post. Tucker Carlson has also

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Speaker 2: done a big video discussion of all of that, and

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Speaker 2: that has been a big topic of discussion. President Trump

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Speaker 2: was at mar A Lago over the weekend. We also

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Speaker 2: been talking about affordability. We'll get to some of that.

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Speaker 2: We talked with Senator Mark Wayne Mullen of Oklahoma. We

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Speaker 2: also talked with Paul Feinbaum, potential candidate for the Senate in.

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Speaker 1: The state of Alabama.

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Speaker 2: And we should mention we have not talked about it yet,

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Speaker 2: that there is a discussion surrounding the Epstein files vote

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Speaker 2: and President Trump weighed in last night and said, hey,

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Speaker 2: let's go ahead and everybody vote and release all of

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Speaker 2: these files. I believe that vote is coming on Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: and they tried to submarine Trump with selective leaking of

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Speaker 2: emails last week because they didn't want the attention to

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Speaker 2: be on the fact that the government shut down had collapsed.

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Speaker 2: And now Buck, I think Trump has gotten ahead entirely

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Speaker 2: on this story. And as a result, I just I

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Speaker 2: don't think there's going to be much there there, for

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Speaker 2: lack of a better way of describing it, because President

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Speaker 2: Trump is now saying release all the files, and there's

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Speaker 2: going to be a huge vote to release all the files,

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Speaker 2: and I think the ones that are most damning for

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Speaker 2: Trump have already been leaked. Do you have a different

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Speaker 2: take on this. I think it's gonna go a long

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Speaker 2: way towards really kind of tamping down the discussion surrounding

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Speaker 2: everything having to do with the Epstein files.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 1: I like that he's gonna give this no more at

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Speaker 1: least no more partisan oxygen in the sense that, all right, fine,

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Speaker 1: just just release the stuff, guys. Let's let's just see.

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Speaker 1: Let's see what you got. You know, the smoking gun

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Speaker 1: that is in there that somehow nobody else has been

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Speaker 1: able to find or get out into the public before

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Speaker 1: about Trump. Please that that's the part of it. You

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Speaker 1: can just apply logic and common sense to these things,

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Speaker 1: and I think generally come to what is overwhelmingly going

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Speaker 1: to be ninety nine percent of the time the correct conclusion,

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Speaker 1: which is, if they had something about Donald Trump where

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Speaker 1: he was the bad guy in something Epstein related, he

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be in the middle of his second term and

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Speaker 1: thinking about, you know, his legacy on the world stage

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Speaker 1: in foreign policy, like it never would have gotten Here

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Speaker 1: is the point. So it's if they could have gotten

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Speaker 1: away with, to be clear, manufacturing a story about Trump

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Speaker 1: with Epstein, that would have stuck, would have to stick, right,

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Speaker 1: They would have done that too. If they could have

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Speaker 1: Russia collusioned him, they would have done that. But they can't.

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Speaker 1: So this is why again this is a frustration, and

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Speaker 1: I think that's why Donald it's a frustration in terms

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Speaker 1: of the time and here he is, this is cut too.

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Speaker 1: Trump just says it. Look, they the Democrats are doing

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Speaker 1: this because it's the shiny object to distract the news

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Speaker 1: cycle from the disastrous and idiotic shutdown they did.

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Speaker 3: But cut two fake news like you. You're a terrible reporter,

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Speaker 3: as fake news like you. They just keep bringing that up,

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Speaker 3: should deflect from the tremendous success of the Trump administration.

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Speaker 3: So a guy like Massy, his hull numbers are showing

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Speaker 3: he said, six percent approval rating right now. And we

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Speaker 3: call him Ran Paul Junior because he never he never

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Speaker 3: votes for the Republican Party. So they using Jeffrey Epstein

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Speaker 3: as a deflection from the tremendous success that we're having

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Speaker 2: I think that's one hundred percent right, and we'll see

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Speaker 2: on Tuesday. I think the odds of there being anything

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Speaker 2: and released is very low. In building on what you said, Buck,

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Speaker 2: if they were going to charge Trump with over fifty

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Speaker 2: felonies in New York, in DC, in South Florida, and

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Speaker 2: him with related to Jeffrey Epstein, don't you think they

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Speaker 2: the way that it was accounted for in the in

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Speaker 2: the books during the election campaign, don't you think they

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Speaker 2: maybe would have just said, Hey, this Epstein thing's got

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Speaker 2: a little more juice than many of the things that

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Speaker 2: he was charged with. Again, I think you just have

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Speaker 2: to use common sense here to recognize what's going on.

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Speaker 2: Our friend Miranda Divine, by the way, is on right

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Speaker 2: now the lead story on Fox as we began our

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Speaker 2: the New York Post revelations relating to this would be

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Speaker 2: assassin in Pennsylvania. And so I do think that this

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Speaker 2: story is going to have a lot of legs. If

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Speaker 2: you haven't heard yet, there are reports from the New

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Speaker 2: York Post also Tucker Carlson and others now that they

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Speaker 2: have been able to find the social media post surrounding

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Speaker 2: this assassin that led would be assassin, he did kill

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Speaker 2: an innocent dad, Corey Campetore can't forget in Butler, Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 2: as well as clip the president's ear and seriously injure

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Speaker 2: others that he was motivated not surprisingly by left wing

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Speaker 2: anti Trump political perspectives, that he under his own name,

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Speaker 2: pursuing or at least intrigued by trans related identity aspects,

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Speaker 2: and that if you go and look at his postings,

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Speaker 2: he moved from a young man who was supportive of

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Speaker 2: Trump to post covid deciding that Trump was a unique

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Speaker 2: threat to American life and that using violence to stop

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Speaker 2: him was potentially justified. Unfortunately, there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: So there was this period of time when the left

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Speaker 1: was trying to make a mathematical concept popularized of stochastic terrorism, right,

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Speaker 1: stochastic terrorism. And so what they were saying is, if

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Speaker 1: you put enough of this out there, even if you're

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Speaker 1: not really crossing the line, you know that with the

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Speaker 1: millions and millions of people out there, someone is going

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Speaker 1: to cross the line, and therefore it's your fault for

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Speaker 1: what you have said or what your beliefs are. This

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Speaker 1: is what they the left was trying very hard to

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Speaker 1: push this for Alclay. I just think it's interesting that

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Speaker 1: that has disappeared in the era of the trantifa terrorist.

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Speaker 1: When it's not a This is where it's a big difference.

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Speaker 1: This isn't a fringe concept, This isn't among Democrats. This

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Speaker 1: isn't something that you will only hear among the most

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Speaker 1: hard left. They will say things about erasing trans people,

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Speaker 1: they will say things about Trump is a fascist and

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Speaker 1: a Nazi. From the very top of the Democrat system

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Speaker 1: and from the Democrat Party. You name it, right, the

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Speaker 1: No Kings protest. All this stuff is about hysteria and hyperbole.

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Speaker 1: The whole purpose of this is to emotionally manipulate people

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Speaker 1: and make them crazy. And then they have some crazies

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Speaker 1: who actually do things like try assassinations that would plunge

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Speaker 1: whatsoever for the insane things that they have been saying

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Speaker 1: everywhere from everyone, all the time, on the left, all

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Speaker 1: the time among Democrats.

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Speaker 2: And I wonder, based on having seen these posts, and again,

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Speaker 2: the FBI, to my knowledge, has not commented yet on

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Speaker 2: these reports from the New York Post and from Tucker,

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Speaker 2: But there were people interacting with this kid. And I

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Speaker 2: say kid because he was a kid when he was

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Speaker 2: posting in the YouTube comments all of these incredibly violent things.

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Speaker 2: And then he goes dark starting in the summer ish

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Speaker 2: of twenty twenty. He's not posting from these accounts anymore.

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Speaker 2: I wonder whether, unfortunately, people saw this young man with

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Speaker 2: This is my speculation, and that further radicalized him, because

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Speaker 2: why would the posts have stopped? And then the next

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Speaker 2: of the United States. So I just I wonder what

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Speaker 2: we just said. Also, we probably should mention this because

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Speaker 2: it's gotten a lot of attention. I don't know how

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Speaker 2: hyper online you guys are, but there's a a guy

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Speaker 2: frankly that buck and I find most of his views

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Speaker 2: to be abhorrent. His name is Nick Fouintes, and whether

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Speaker 2: or not Tucker Carlson should have interviewed him has turned

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Speaker 2: into a major talking point where people have been going

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Speaker 2: back and forth, typically in the online ecosystem. I don't

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Speaker 2: know how much tension this gets elsewhere, but President Trump

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Speaker 2: was asked about it. I thought his answer was actually

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Speaker 2: pretty solid. We can play that as well. This was

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Speaker 2: last night.

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Speaker 1: Publican party, the Conservative.

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Speaker 2: Hut, the books.

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Speaker 3: But well, I found him to be good. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he said good things about me over the years and season.

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Speaker 3: I think he's good. We've had some good interviews. I

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Speaker 3: did an interview with him. We had three hundred million hits.

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Speaker 3: You know that. Look, I can't tell him, well, you

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Speaker 3: let me finish rise back. You are the worst. You're

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Speaker 3: with Bloomberg, right, you are the worst.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why they even have you.

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Speaker 3: We've had some great interviews with Tucker Carlson, but you

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Speaker 3: can't tell him who to interview him. And if he

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Speaker 3: wants to interview Nick Fluentez, I don't know much about him.

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Speaker 1: But if he wants to do it, get the word out.

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Speaker 1: Let him. You know, people have to decide.

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Speaker 2: So brought Trump basically saying I don't think that guests

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Speaker 1: Our own mission and also this show. Yeah, not willing

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Speaker 1: could be so easy to say, well, I you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm you know, I really disagree with Tucker or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Trump stood right by Tucker did not, did not back

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Speaker 1: it's become something of a national conversation. A lot of

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Speaker 1: people are having this chat. There was a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a hubbub over at the Heritage Foundation. A venerated

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Speaker 1: who we know actually listens to this show on occasion.

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Speaker 1: He stood up for Tucker and there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: backlash to it. Look, there's a fight. We don't really

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Speaker 1: not getting into some of the more personality based squabbling

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Speaker 1: that is going on out there. Because I also think

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Speaker 1: a lot clay to your point. I think if you

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Speaker 1: for a lot of the country who's fighting with whom

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Speaker 1: about what? It gets some clicks online, But I don't

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Speaker 1: think anyone's waking up saying what do we think about

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Speaker 1: that Tucker Ted Cruz interview, for example, Like, I just

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Speaker 1: don't think you know those two guys had it out

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Speaker 1: if you haven't seen that they had it out, and

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Speaker 1: you can watch the interview yourself, but I'm I don't

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Speaker 1: sit here. You don't sit here trying to to pick

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Speaker 1: And I think that that's Trump's I think that was

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Speaker 1: Trump's response too. He's like, look, I like Tucker. He

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. Got some

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Speaker 1: great talkbacks. Let's do a quick one here. BB podcast

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Speaker 2: in Clay, Travis buck Sexton show a lot of different

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Speaker 2: some of your talkbacks. Eight hundred and two two two

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Speaker 2: but that I can't talk about. Where I'm going to

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Speaker 2: be it is not to tour the Whispering Angel winery. Uh.

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Speaker 1: First of all, that you would even consider cheating on

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Speaker 1: If that makes sense. And that was that was really vague,

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Speaker 2: I don't think I'm even knowledgeable enough to know enough

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right. There was no this is like you.

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Speaker 1: He Clays a black coffee drinker, and I, okay, I'll

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Speaker 1: a I'm gonna tell you something else. Beer, which people

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Speaker 1: science there, true story, Beer gives you man boobs. Beer

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Speaker 1: is estrogen increasing, unfortunately, so I've heard that is liquor

435
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Speaker 1: two or just beer. I think beer in particular, But

436
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Speaker 1: I need to I need to go to the groc

437
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Speaker 1: on that one.

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Speaker 2: Is it the hops that make it like estrogen related

439
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Speaker 2: like higher levels?

440
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Speaker 1: Why, I'll find out. You just talk for a second.

441
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:16,479
Speaker 1: I will continue to talk as buck specifically raises your

442
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Speaker 1: estrogen levels. I'm trying to find out why, which even men,

443
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Speaker 1: by the way, men have estrogen two. Beer increases estrogen

444
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: due to phyto estrogen content from hops and barley. Yes,

445
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Speaker 1: it's specific, so this is real. It's specific to the

446
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Speaker 1: molecular basis of the beer itself. So yeah, you're drinking

447
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Speaker 1: the anti testosterone when you're drinking beer. Couldn't have explained

448
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: that to people with Budweiser horses running back in the nineties.

449
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 1: True story, though, folks, True story.

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Speaker 2: I actually think that's the best argument that a liquor

451
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Speaker 2: company could make beer is drinking estrogen, and assuming that

452
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Speaker 2: liquor doesn't have the same levels of estrogen. I don't

453
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Speaker 2: know what the date is, but I've seen that storyline before.

454
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Speaker 2: As as everybody is breaking that out.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of estrogen, can I throw something else out in

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Speaker 1: the mix for us for your conversation here about something

457
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Speaker 1: I just did? You see Bill Ackman's advice on dating.

458
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Speaker 1: This has gone super viral. I'm very curious. We'll get

459
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,360
Speaker 1: to some more of this tomorrow. Clay's gonna be out

460
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 1: super secret mission, Clay. But Bill Ackman told young men

461
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Speaker 1: who he you know what, I think. I actually can

462
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Speaker 1: find the tweed really quickly. Bill, I here here, I've

463
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Speaker 1: got it. Here we go. I hear from many young

464
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Speaker 1: men that find it is difficult to meet young women

465
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Speaker 1: in a public setting. This is billionaire investor guy Bill Ackman.

466
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Speaker 1: In other words, the online culture has destroyed the ability

467
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Speaker 1: to spontaneously meet strangers. As such, I thought I would

468
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Speaker 1: share a few words that I used in my youth

469
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Speaker 1: to meet someone that I found compelling. I would ask, quote,

470
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Speaker 1: may I meet you before engaging in further conversation. In

471
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Speaker 1: inevitably enabled the opportunity for a further conversation. A lot

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Speaker 1: of really interesting people, Clay. The internet has been ruth

473
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Speaker 1: yes with mister Ackman's may I meet you advice? Is

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Speaker 1: this surprising to you at all? It doesn't surprise me

475
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Speaker 1: that the internet has destroyed a rich billionaire who shared

476
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Speaker 1: his social cues online and they were quite a lot

477
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Speaker 1: different than maybe most. I think if you're a billionaire,

478
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 1: I think you can walk up to somebody and be like,

479
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Speaker 1: I like you, and that's it. You know, I think

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Speaker 1: you're good.

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Speaker 2: Well, the girls probably know a lot of the billionaires

482
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Speaker 2: that are rolling around in rooms. I do think this question, though,

483
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Speaker 2: is one that is uh, that is something a lot

484
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 2: of young men are talking about, and I know young

485
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Speaker 2: women complain about it that they're not getting approached like

486
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Speaker 2: would have happened in the past. And I think it's

487
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 2: because young men. So this is my big thesis on this.

488
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Speaker 2: You guys can tell me if I'm wrong. I think

489
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 2: many young men have taken to heart the idea of

490
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Speaker 2: toxic masculinity and and approaching women is seen now as

491
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Speaker 2: in their mind somewhat of an aggressive move, and so

492
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 2: there's less rejection involved when you just send somebody a

493
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 2: message on social media, and so I think it's just

494
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 2: indicative of a decline and overall face to face interaction

495
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 2: and face to face interaction brings with it the possibility

496
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 2: of rejection, which is really really hard to accept. And

497
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 2: I think guys are afraid that not only are they

498
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Speaker 2: going to get rejected, that they're going to get made

499
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Speaker 2: fun of. I mean, trying to approach a group of

500
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Speaker 2: girls if you are a guy is insanely difficult because you,

501
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: as you're going to go approach, you think, oh, if

502
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 2: she shoots me down, all of the other girls are

503
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 2: going to you know, they're they're going to be making

504
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Speaker 2: fun of the attempt that I have made I meet

505
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Speaker 2: you is a really really ridiculous I think opening line

506
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Speaker 2: I would suggest if young men are out there, I

507
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 2: don't know you were on the bar scene a lot

508
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 2: longer than me. I think humor in an unthreatening way

509
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 2: is a good way to gauge the interest level of

510
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Speaker 2: a girl. If she doesn't have a sense of humor,

511
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say, you probably don't want to be

512
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: with her anyway. Like that seems miserable to me. And

513
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 2: so but if you go in with a sort of

514
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 2: light hearted entry point, it isn't aggressive, like over the top.

515
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Speaker 2: Does that make sense to.

516
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Speaker 1: All the single guys out there? Let me tell you

517
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Speaker 1: one thing, women like bees can smell fear, and so

518
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: when you go up to them, the most important thing

519
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: is that your attitude is that you were effectively on

520
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: a kamikaze mission. My friends, this is all about the

521
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: story you're gonna tell afterwards about how slap down you got,

522
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: how ma fewer or whatever you got. To just go

523
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: in there not care. I'm not saying try for that

524
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: to happen, and obviously be polite and be nice, but

525
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: I just mean, you've gotta have no fear because they

526
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: that's you. Are you?

527
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Speaker 2: Are you co signing You're one hundred percent right. I mean,

528
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 2: the way I think about it is like being a

529
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 2: batter in a baseball game. Most of the time, even

530
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 2: great hitter swing and make no contact, Like if you

531
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 2: are constantly obsessed with the fact that you're you know,

532
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 2: probably walking, unless you're you know, Matthew McConaughey or Tom Cruise.

533
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 2: I mean, some of you are you know, incredibly rich

534
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 2: and incredibly good looking. And I'm sure everybody listening right now,

535
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 2: and certainly this is always funny. Everybody on the internet

536
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 2: is always incredibly good looking.

537
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: You know you somebody's got a pretty girl picture and

538
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: They're like, she's not that good looking. It's like, this

539
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: is pretty like Sidney Sweeney. She's not that good looking

540
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: at she's pretty Sweeney, she's mid they say she's mid.

541
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Speaker 2: Hey, I guess if you're into, you know, really good

542
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Speaker 2: looking twenty five year olds.

543
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: But uh, but I could do better.

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Speaker 2: I think you just have to think of it as

545
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 2: as basically, you're a batter out up to and you're

546
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Speaker 2: gonna swing and miss a bunch and you might file

547
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 2: one off and it happens.

548
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Speaker 1: This is what you just If you're fearless, it's fine.

549
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,719
Speaker 1: If you're fearless guys, it's fine. Also the same way

550
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: you should go into interviews. You always for a job,

551
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: I mean now you always want to go into the

552
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: interview like if I get it, I don't get it,

553
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: you know what, I'll figure it out. I'm gonna put

554
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do my thing. I'm gonna be who I am. Nervousness, anxiety,

555
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: fear always unappealing. So just let it and by this

556
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: is why I'll tell you the like pick up artist

557
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: books that used to come out back in the nineties.

558
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: They're a bunch of that were very famous. A lot

559
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: of it. What they're a lot of what they teach

560
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: guys to do. And let me say, there's a lot

561
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: of there's a lot of bad stuff about being you know,

562
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: very philandering with the women and everything, but put that aside.

563
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: They just want you to go up. They tell you,

564
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: just go up, and if you're not talking to fifty

565
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: women a day or something, and it's not because you're

566
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: gonna get fifty phone numbers. The idea is to desensitize

567
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: you to rejection because once you're desensitized to rejection, you

568
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: no longer have fear. And once you no longer have fear,

569
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: when you approach someone, their energy reflecting off of you

570
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: is gonna be like, Wow, this guy's just coming up

571
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: and talking to me. Whereas if you go up and

572
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: you're like, excuse me, goddess, who is far out of

573
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: my league? That's not going to work for you, even

574
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: if she is. And by the way, I have you know,

575
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I have made that movie for a look

576
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:28,959
Speaker 1: at who I'm married to. Sometimes you got to take

577
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: a swing for the fences. I think.

578
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 2: Also, it's a lot like sales. You know, the reason

579
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: why people who do sales are successful in life is

580
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 2: because they're willing to get rejected. Most people hide and

581
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 2: they fear failure more than they crave success, and I

582
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 2: think that applies there too. I will say, Bill Ackmans,

583
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 2: may I meet you? Line is so incredibly awkward. I

584
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 2: bet a bunch of guys are sliding in DMS. It's

585
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 2: everywhere now and it's become a perfect Yes. It is

586
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 2: actually become a perfect pickup line because now everyone gets

587
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 2: to be in on the joke. It's and you know,

588
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: Bill Ackman is being very he's having a very good

589
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 2: sense of humor about it. He's playing the whole thing

590
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 2: very well too. But it is it is quite funny.

591
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 2: The whole thing has really become very very amusing. But

592
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: people do lack that ice breaker initial skill and once

593
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: you get, once you get good on that, it is

594
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 2: a it is a secret way. Did you have a

595
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 2: go to line at a bar that you would try

596
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 2: just to break the ice Did you have something that

597
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: you found was now that you're married, is there is

598
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: there a tip?

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00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: Did you have a line it was? I was always

600
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: very I was always very situational. Uh So I would

601
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: just sort of find something. I usually would comment on

602
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: something in the environment that was going on in a

603
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: funny way, and first sort of just get that, you know,

604
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: because we take a living, so we don't have a

605
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: lot of men cannot communicate very well as many women

606
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: out there are nodding along.

607
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 2: At least we talk for a living. I had a

608
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 2: buddy who had really good success. He's married, now I'll

609
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 2: give it out. He would go up to girls and

610
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: he would say, hey, I'm not the kind of guy

611
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 2: to brag, but I have health insurance. And that was

612
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: a pretty good ice breaking line because it's a ridiculous

613
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 2: thing to say, but it also is kind of like

614
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 2: it worked really well.

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00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,719
Speaker 1: Did he wear cargo shorts with New Balance sneakers when

616
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: he pulled that line, because that is a dad line

617
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: right there. I think that's a great line.

618
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: I think that you can go with your credit score,

619
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 2: you know, or brag about your mortgage mortgage interest rate,

620
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 2: like I think, are these are things that work well

621
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 2: for the girls once you get a lot of women

622
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 2: have no idea what life costs until they're like twenty four.

623
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 2: So if you're talking to an eighteen year old, they

624
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 2: got no idea. Once you get to be like twenty four,

625
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 2: they start to recognize, wait, it's really expensive. To live

626
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 2: in a good neighborhood and rent starts to add up

627
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 2: once once you're out in the real world. Hey, health insurance.

628
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 2: That's a line that gets the girls attention and a heartbeat,

629
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Speaker 2: just like Price picks does. You could also just go

630
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 2: up and say, Hey, not to brag, but I'm really

631
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Speaker 2: good price picks and trust me, there's nothing girls love

632
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 2: more than when guys talk about sports with them out

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Speaker 2: of nowhere Prize picks dot com code clay. You can

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Speaker 2: it fifty dollars when you play five dollars. That is,

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Speaker 2: it in Georgia, you can play it in Texas. You

638
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Speaker 2: can play it in California. Forty plus states, thirteen million

639
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Speaker 1: You can play along with us too.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I may have to send Buck a pick

642
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Speaker 2: because I'll be on my super secret mission this week,

643
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Speaker 2: and we know that when I send a pick to Buck,

644
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Speaker 2: Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get

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Speaker 1: We're closing up shop today on Clay and Buck. Clay

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Speaker 1: is going to be out on a super secret mission

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Speaker 1: for pretty much the rest of the week. We think

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Speaker 1: it'll be at least the next few days, and a

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Speaker 1: Clay In the meantime, Pam from Alaska listens up on

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Speaker 1: kN i DD. She's got some thoughts for you. Hey, Clay,

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Speaker 1: I think if you start drinking the Whispering Angel while

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Speaker 1: you're watching the Hallmark Channel, that's when we may have

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Speaker 1: a problem.

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Speaker 2: What if it's a really good thespian showing I'm sorry

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Speaker 2: that I'm just really connected to many of the love

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Speaker 2: stories that the Hallmark Channel brings to bear on a

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Speaker 2: day to day basis. In fact, they have filmed many

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Speaker 2: of these in the town that I lived in, Franklin, Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: EE, North Carolina called in with a talkback hit it, Hey,

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Speaker 1: Clay and Buck, is Ali really gone from the show?

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Speaker 1: Or is Clay pulling our leg once again? Oh? He's

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Speaker 1: definitely pulling. Ali's not allowed to not only she's not fired,

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Speaker 1: she's not allowed to lead like that's that's not even thing.

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Speaker 2: How big of a jerk would I have to be

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Speaker 2: to actually fire someone live on the air. I mean,

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Speaker 2: after four and a half years, I might not be perfect,

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Speaker 2: but I think most people would say that doesn't really

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Speaker 2: seem like Clay. But again, in fairness, it's not just

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Speaker 2: a women's rose, it's a gay man's rose. Two is

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Speaker 2: not necessarily the way to win my heart back. That's

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Speaker 2: producer Ali on the scurreless attack of Tayley mcinaey.

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Speaker 1: Can you give us a clue and we'll take talkbacks?

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Speaker 1: And where you actually are gonna be? Do you want

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Speaker 1: to give us a clue on your super secret mission

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Speaker 1: to close us out here overseas headed east