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Speaker 1: Good eaving America. Happy Friday. Welcome to the latest edition

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Speaker 1: of Just the Who's No Noise. I'm your host, John Solomon.

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Speaker 1: You know this FIB report over you day from the

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Speaker 1: Nation's capital. I'm flying solo tonight. My co host Amanda

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Speaker 1: Head is on assignment, but she'll be back in the

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Speaker 1: seat on Monday. We're keeping a close eye on some

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Speaker 1: breaking news in Atlanta, Georgia. There is a report of

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Speaker 1: an active shooter on the Emory University campus. We are

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Speaker 1: up on justinnews dot com. Check out justinews dot com althornight.

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Speaker 1: We'll keep you up to date. If we get some updates.

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Speaker 1: During the show, I'll break in with some news. All right,

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Speaker 1: big day in Washington yet. It might be August, but

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump isn't sitting back. The Trump administration is continuing

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Speaker 1: their investigations into weapinar Justice, the latest one dealing with

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Speaker 1: New York Attorney General Letitia James and her twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: two lawsuit against President Trump, his adult sons, and the

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Speaker 1: Trump Organization. That investigation is apparently being looked at by

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Speaker 1: the Justice Department, as well as the possible misuse or

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Speaker 2: We're keeping a close eye on that.

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Speaker 1: Some grand jury subpoenias were apparently sent out of the

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Speaker 1: US Attorney's office in the Northern District of New York,

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Speaker 1: so we're seeking information about that investigation as well as

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Speaker 1: anything having to do with her own mortgage problems. I'm

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Speaker 1: could be one of many things that break into clearer

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Speaker 1: view next week. In a little bit before the show, today,

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Speaker 1: President Trump sat down with the leaders.

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Speaker 1: Those are two countries that have been fighting each other

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Speaker 1: for decades, actually quite frank over a century, almost all

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Speaker 1: the way back to World War One. But the President

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Speaker 1: announced a historic deal between them and that conflict and

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Speaker 1: move towards a permanent peace agreement. Alzerbrajehan and Armenia signed

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Speaker 1: an agreement that reopens transportation routes between the two countries

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Speaker 1: that the rod connects Alzerberjhan with an enclay that was

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Speaker 1: very soon. There's also a word that Pewtin could meet

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Speaker 1: with Ukraine's President Zelenski, and also that Trump Russia's agreement

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Speaker 1: We'll be watching that closely here at justinnews dot com

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Speaker 1: all week along. All right, we're going to kick tonight's

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Speaker 1: show off with a great conversation with a member of

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Speaker 1: last couple of years. We learned so much from his work.

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Speaker 1: I sat down with Congressman Glenn Growthman just a little

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Speaker 1: now from one of the great battleground states in this country.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I spent eight years of my life there

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Speaker 1: state of Wiscy as a Congressman. Glenn Growthman, Congress and

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Speaker 3: Be on the show as always, we're kind of in

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Speaker 3: the middle of our August rate.

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Speaker 4: But what's going on in Washington?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, there's still the fallout from all the great

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Speaker 1: work that you and the committees that you're on have

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Speaker 1: big subpoenas went out this weekend. Isn't very often that

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Speaker 1: before committe Just want to get your thoughts on what

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Speaker 1: we might learn when we get that extraordinary group of

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Speaker 3: Well, obviously there are a lot of questions out there.

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Speaker 3: Some of those questions are ephtally related. We have concerns

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Speaker 3: about the degree in which government authorities CIA, FBI were

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Speaker 4: It almost is like we have a shadow government.

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Speaker 3: Going on ore that is, who wants to pick our

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Speaker 2: But the Democrats don't.

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Speaker 1: Seem to have any concern that the CIA and the

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Speaker 3: It's horrific and if you're my age, you can't help.

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Speaker 3: That's compare to Watergate. The difference is during Watergate, the entire.

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Speaker 5: Entire mainstream media.

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Speaker 4: All the TV, all the news magazines.

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Speaker 3: Were pounding, counding, counding on Nixon, and he really had

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Speaker 4: But I think the Democratic Party right now.

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Speaker 3: Basically old ones the mainstream media, and if they own

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Speaker 3: the mainstream media. Is there anything the Democrats have to

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Speaker 3: It's a huge difference when the mainstream media will not

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in some cases they actually ridicule factual information. They're

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Speaker 1: I think you're right that is probably the biggest difference.

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Speaker 2: Between now and Watergate.

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Speaker 1: I want to turn to another subject in the world,

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Speaker 1: because you have been such an extraordinary voice on this

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Speaker 1: But the level of persecution against Christians around the world

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Speaker 3: All, you're doing recruited to just got to bring people

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Speaker 4: The Christian churches have to wait up a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, we'd worried about minorities, so called

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Speaker 3: But Christians are not always treated that wellmare and it

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Speaker 4: And like I said, quite frankly, I'm the Christian churches.

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Speaker 1: Very important fos that we need to restore to our thinking,

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Speaker 1: The idea that the President was willing to punish India

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Speaker 2: It's a big.

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Speaker 1: Sacrifice on the American side, but it's potentially a big

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Speaker 4: It's a very big concern. I really can't think of

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Speaker 4: Do not want to have this sore festering that much longer.

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Speaker 3: I think if they want a great Russia in the future,

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Speaker 4: It's a horrible thing about it. It's a publicized much.

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Speaker 4: They shouldn't.

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Speaker 3: Ukraine has the second onest perth right now. So you're

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Speaker 3: In which they should be looking to increase their population,

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Speaker 3: not looking for new ways to decrease their population. Vladimir

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Speaker 4: We have that.

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Speaker 3: Many or that that smaller amount of population at smaller money.

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Speaker 4: Before this took place, I.

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Speaker 4: This was maybe just the month or a week.

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Speaker 3: That I was there, but during that time the country

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Speaker 4: So people they should know about it.

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Speaker 1: An existential question for Vladimir Putin if that exodus continues

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Speaker 3: Well, it should play, But again it's one of those

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Speaker 4: By your rights, one of the reasons why.

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Speaker 4: Their default is not less government.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you're right. You're right.

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Speaker 3: I'll look at a place around the glow that vote

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Speaker 1: the president of the National Border Patrol Council, Paul Press.

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Speaker 2: Paul, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I think, on behalf of the American people, we owe

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Speaker 2: How'd you guys do it? Well?

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Speaker 8: You know, it was like President Trump said he had

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Speaker 8: That turned the magnet off and that let everybody know

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Speaker 9: You know, they're trying to make money by doing the

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Speaker 9: He's designated them as foreign terrorist organizations, and that will

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is amazing, and what a difference it's had

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Speaker 9: Well, you know, we've dedicated more resources to the northern

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Speaker 6: That was something that we never really had to do, and.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's something well Kpkpenoclaus and I know you and

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Speaker 1: your team are always The Justice Department is not only

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Speaker 1: involved in sanctioning the drug cartels with the Treasury Department,

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Speaker 1: they're sanctioning states in cities and identifying and calling out

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Speaker 1: those states that have given safe harbor to illegal aliens

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Speaker 1: and to fugitives of sanctuary states that they're called sanctuary cities.

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Speaker 1: How important is it that they get called out for

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Speaker 1: what they're really doing, and it's not glossed over as

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Speaker 9: It's very important because at the end of the day,

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Speaker 9: they're putting their constituents in harm's way. They're putting their

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Speaker 9: constituents in the way of you know, look, you've got

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Speaker 9: millions of people that have been released into the country,

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Speaker 9: and where do they go. Sanctuary cities are a magnet

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Speaker 9: because they know that law enforcement's not going to cooperate

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Speaker 9: with ICE or border patrol, so they're going to go there.

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Speaker 9: So when these politicians put their constituents, you know, at

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Speaker 9: the bottom of the priority, and they allow the illegal

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Speaker 9: the American citizens that voted them in. And I think

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Speaker 9: more and more people are looking at this and calling

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Speaker 9: them out because it's not only the fact that they're

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Speaker 9: protecting them, they're funding them. They're giving them money to

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Speaker 9: stay here in the United States. So they're encouraging them

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Speaker 9: to stay here instead of them taking up the government's

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Speaker 9: offer to be repatriated at our expense on their terms

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Speaker 9: back to Mexico or wherever it is they may be from.

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Speaker 9: They're out here Committee crimes. They're out here robbing people.

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Speaker 9: You know, it's sad, but that's exactly what the Biden

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Speaker 9: administration wanted. These sanctuary cities are going to have to

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Speaker 9: get with the program and start cooperating with Borderbatrol and ICE.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it sounds like if they don't their wallet,

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Speaker 1: maybe like federal tax dollars might not end up in

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Speaker 1: their coffer as much longer. We'll see how that plays out,

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Speaker 1: but that's a big morning sign from the Trump administration.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to talk for a second about outbound migration.

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Speaker 1: I've heard from several agents on the on the front

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Speaker 1: lines that people are just self deporting now. They don't

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Speaker 1: even want to go through the hassle of getting arrested,

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Speaker 1: being put in the detention center. Can you give us

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Speaker 1: some sense of does that happen regularly and is it

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Speaker 1: overall helping the ICE operation that people are just leaving

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Speaker 1: the country willingly it is.

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Speaker 9: You know, there were some people that were skeptical at

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Speaker 9: first of you know, people taking advantage of the fact

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Speaker 9: that they could self deport. But it's worked because the

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Speaker 9: consequences are real and they know that. What President Trump

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Speaker 9: and what Secretary Nomes say is actually going to happen.

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Speaker 6: If we catch you, you're going to be deported. You're

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Speaker 6: not going to be allowed to come back in.

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Speaker 9: So it's to your benefit to actually remove yourself self

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Speaker 9: deport and you may have an opportunity to come back

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Speaker 9: legally into.

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Speaker 6: The country, but if we catch you, that's not going

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Speaker 6: to happen.

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Speaker 9: So they're not willing to take the risk, and some people,

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Speaker 9: a lot of people have actually taken up the government

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Speaker 9: on that offer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, leave willingly and without much event or end up

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Speaker 1: in Alligator Alcatraz. That's probably an easy choice to make

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Speaker 1: for a lot of people. The detention centers are really

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Speaker 1: important for growing them. There's a new one announced in

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Speaker 1: Indiana obviously Florida. How important is that that the crisis

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Speaker 1: that you know was manufactured by buying There was no

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Speaker 1: place to keep these people, so we release them. Now

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Speaker 1: there's a place to keep the legal aliens.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's good that some of these states.

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Speaker 9: You know, I think there's going to be more states

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Speaker 9: you know, I'm sure Texas, I'm sure there's gonna be

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Speaker 9: other states that are going to be jumping at the

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Speaker 9: opportunity to help President Trump, you know, detain these people

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Speaker 9: because again we need the detention space. You know, we're

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Speaker 9: not going to allow catch and release anymore. So we're

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Speaker 9: going to remove the millions of people that are here

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Speaker 9: and we need somebody, we need somewhere to detain them.

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Speaker 9: And so that's where these states of stepping up. It's

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Speaker 9: really beneficial for us and it really helps us out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they know how much the frontline agents and your

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Speaker 1: Paul Prez, President of the National Board and Patrol Council.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate being on with you. Yeah, great, great interviews. Always,

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Speaker 1: We're keeping a close eye on what's happening at Emmy

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Speaker 1: There is report now confirmation that at least one police

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Speaker 2: In with the news. All right.

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Speaker 1: I love when we get to bring a new face

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Speaker 1: to the national stage, someone running for Congress who's got

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Speaker 1: big ideas and in a state that has so many

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Speaker 1: big new lessons for America to follow, the great state

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Speaker 1: of Ohio joining me right there, right now, State Representative

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Speaker 1: Josh Williams, who's now running for US Congress.

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Speaker 2: Sir, good to have you on the show.

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Speaker 10: Thank you for having me on tonight.

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Speaker 1: You have a fantastic personal story. I think when people

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Speaker 1: look up and say what can I be? No matter

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Speaker 1: where I came from, your story comes to mind. You

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Speaker 1: grew up poor. Tell us a little bit about your

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Speaker 1: life story, because I think it's really inspiring.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, So I was born and raised hencelet, Ohio. I

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Speaker 11: grew up in poverty, you know, raised by a single

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Speaker 11: mother after my dad died from cancer. You know, we

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Speaker 11: struggle what we may do, and you know, I dropped

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Speaker 11: out of high school when I was eighteen. When I

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Speaker 11: became homeless, I slept on park benches for about the

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Speaker 11: next six months, and eventually, when I found out that

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Speaker 11: my son was conceived, I did what every good man

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Speaker 11: should do, you know, try and find good work, good hard,

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Speaker 11: honest work at the railroad. And I was successful there

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Speaker 11: for a few years, and then unfortunately I fell at

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Speaker 11: in bed for the next six years wow fighting to

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Speaker 11: to stabilize it, and eventually I fought with the state

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Speaker 11: of Ohio for the opportunity to go to college for

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Speaker 11: over a year. They tried to block me from going

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Speaker 11: to college, threatening to cut off my benefits if I

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Speaker 11: had the audacity to dream of a better future for

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Speaker 11: my family, and eventually, at the age of thirty, I

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Speaker 11: enrolled at the University of Toledo as a freshman, and

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Speaker 10: Just five years later, I was.

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Speaker 11: Graduating with my third degree, my law degree, graduating from

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Speaker 11: law school, became a practicing attorney, a constitutional law professor,

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Speaker 11: and eventually ran to be state representative, and now I

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Speaker 1: There are Hollywood movies that are not nearly as impressive

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Speaker 1: as that incredible journey that you took. It really is something,

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Speaker 1: and I know it's inspiring. And then you've given back

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Speaker 1: to your state and to your community you serve in

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Speaker 1: the state legislature now running for Congress. What made you say,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I'm on to go to Washington to

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Speaker 11: But one I started to see the swamp right. We

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Speaker 11: thrown from Donald Trump.

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Speaker 10: That's what got me into public service.

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Speaker 11: And then now I've seen the transition that we're seeing

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Speaker 11: in DC now with President Trump being reelected and JD

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Speaker 11: Vance in the White House. We're seeing tremendous momentum. And

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Speaker 11: all I'm seeing is the Democrats be, you know, be

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Speaker 11: And I'm continuing to see, you know, my representative Marcy

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Speaker 11: kill the US economy, even though the reports are showing

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Speaker 11: continuous growth. You know, we finally have strong leadership putting

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Speaker 11: America first, putting Ohio manufacturers.

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Speaker 10: First, and we're competitive on a national stage.

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Speaker 11: And I'm continuing to see them just be negative, thinking

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Speaker 11: the same DEI talking points and LGBTQ issues are going

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Speaker 11: to win them the next election.

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Speaker 1: Boy, they got to start reading the polls. They are

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Speaker 1: way off on that target. But you're right, they triple down.

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Speaker 1: Now it's not double down, they tripled down. It's actually

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Speaker 1: a head scatcher to me. I love one of the

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Speaker 1: things you wrote a recent outpad that we caught our attention,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's great because we have this debate

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Speaker 1: and this year we lean back into workfair for the

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Speaker 1: first time in twenty thirty years. And now people who

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Speaker 1: they they aren't caring for children they can, they require

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Speaker 1: to do some work to keep their assistance. You really

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Speaker 1: feel this is important. It's not just an obligation of community.

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Speaker 1: It actually makes you a better person when you're struggling

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Speaker 1: to make ends meet.

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Speaker 11: Right, Yeah, I mean that idea of individual responsibility is

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Speaker 11: what helped dig me out of poverty and out of

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Speaker 11: that bed when I was disabled and hopeless. You know,

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Speaker 11: when I try to gain a good economic growth from

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Speaker 11: my family, the government stepped in the way. But even

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Speaker 11: when I enrolled in college that the government required that

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Speaker 11: I work hours a week once I got past my

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Speaker 11: associate's degree. So my junior and senior year in all

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Speaker 11: through law school, I had to work twenty hours a

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Speaker 11: could continue in college. I did that why volunteering in

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Speaker 11: my community, by raising a young family and continuing continuing

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Speaker 11: my studies and earning a full scholarship to the Universeit

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Speaker 11: of Toledo College of Law. Now I was able to

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Speaker 11: do that well. Fifty percent disabled. You're telling me that

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Speaker 11: a thirty year old living in his grandmother's basement playing

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Speaker 11: video games all day can't put down the dope that

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Speaker 11: he's smoking to get a job and be able to

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Speaker 11: maintain free health care. That the honest work in blue

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Speaker 11: collar Ohio and is paying for for him. I think

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Speaker 11: that's the minimal amount of work that he could do.

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Speaker 11: You know, in Ohio, we even tried to pass more

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Speaker 11: rules to make it where you had to go and

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Speaker 11: do workforce development training if you weren't on, if you

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Speaker 11: weren't able to transition off of medicaid fast enough.

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty good challenge anyone sitting in their grandma's basement,

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Speaker 1: get off your daff and do what I did. That's

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Speaker 1: a faid to go and you have a great example.

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Speaker 1: You lived it. I want to talk a little bit

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Speaker 1: about the incident recently in Cincinnati. Now, well that is

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Speaker 1: a pretty good, strong law and order state, but it

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Speaker 1: has some communities that have these long histories.

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Speaker 2: This idea, this notion.

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Speaker 1: That we make excuses for violent crime, we let people

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Speaker 1: back out thinking gets better than incarcerating them. It's really

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Speaker 1: having a negative effect on communities, isn't it.

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Speaker 10: Absolutely.

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Speaker 11: I mean, the violent crime that we're seeing in these

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Speaker 11: democrat controlled cities is atrocious. You know, the incident that

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Speaker 11: happened in Cincinnati is preventable, and even after the fact,

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Speaker 11: you need to punish harshy those individuals that perpetrated those crimes.

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Speaker 11: I mean seeing a group of individuals just assaut not

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Speaker 11: only men, but young ladies, women, blindsided with violence, and

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Speaker 11: then to see the community go and try to blame

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Speaker 11: the victim, seeing the prosecutor charge them with the least

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Speaker 11: amount of offenses possible under Ohio law, and then for

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Speaker 11: the Democrat elected judge to release these people out on

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Speaker 11: bond with minimal bonds. You know, someone needs to be

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Speaker 11: held responsible. Our system is built on law and order.

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Speaker 11: Our communit unities want safety and security, and the least

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Speaker 11: we can do is provide that as elected official. So

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Speaker 11: you know, we demand accountability in Cincinnati and the rest

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Speaker 11: of the state of Ohio. We've drafted laws to put

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Speaker 11: these people behind bars, and those laws need to be

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Speaker 11: enforced not only by our law enforcement, but by the

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Speaker 11: prosecutors and the judges within these Democrat controlled cities.

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Speaker 1: It's so important. The prosecutors are often the biggest week

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Speaker 1: link because they just let these offenders ride back out

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Speaker 1: and the cycle just gets worse before we let you

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Speaker 1: go quickly.

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Speaker 2: I think you're going to be one of the bell.

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Speaker 1: Weather races because Marci Captor went all out against the BBB,

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Speaker 1: the one big beautiful build There are so many things

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Speaker 1: that are going to potentially lean into the manufacturing renaissance

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Speaker 1: of Ohio and America.

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Speaker 2: In that build I.

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Speaker 1: Have a sneaking suspicion you're going to use that vote

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Speaker 1: against her for the next many months.

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Speaker 11: Absolutely, I mean, Marcy Captor is out of touch with

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Speaker 11: average Americans, average Ohioan. Do you know she voted against

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Speaker 11: the biggest tax break in American history.

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Speaker 10: She wanted your.

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Speaker 11: Taxes to go up by astronomical numbers. She voted against

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Speaker 11: the push for American manufacturing. You know, many people believe

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Speaker 11: that Marcy Captor needs to step aside and just retire,

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Speaker 11: But I.

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Speaker 10: Actually wanted to run because I want to beat her.

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Speaker 11: I want her to see that the American people do

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Speaker 11: not believe in her policies.

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Speaker 10: She's skated by long enough.

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Speaker 11: The greatest accompliment she had, the greatest accompliment she's had

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Speaker 11: is being re elected and serving twenty two terms in

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Speaker 11: the House. Eventually, she's going to be caught home and

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Speaker 11: answer for the decision that she's making, including voting against

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Speaker 11: the one Big, Beautiful Bill.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's nothing like a forced retirement to send a

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Speaker 1: big message. And that's what I think you're going to

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Speaker 1: try to deliver state representative Josh, Wayne's a great honor

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Speaker 1: to have you on. How do people if they want

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Speaker 1: to learn more about your campaign, what's the best way

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Speaker 1: they can do that?

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Speaker 11: They can go to Josh williamsfor Ohio dot com and

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Speaker 11: they can reach out to us on social media.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty important, well, sir, great, great personal story, Thanks

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Speaker 1: for his firingers side invest the lock in the race.

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Speaker 2: Great to have you on.

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Speaker 10: Thank you for having me on tonight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what a great conversation. All right, folks, We're going

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Speaker 1: to take a quick commercial break.

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Speaker 2: When we come back. I ask you a question.

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Speaker 1: Could you be prosecuted in America for posts online?

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Speaker 2: Now you think, oh no, maybe not.

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Speaker 1: Well, there are state governments that me want to enact

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Speaker 1: those kinds of laws, like the stuff we're seeing in Europe.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you about that next right after these messages.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in America.

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Speaker 1: A little earlier actually, just last month, I was down

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Speaker 1: in Orlando for part of the Alliance Defending Freedom a summit.

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Speaker 1: It was an unbelievable experience. I met amazing people, people

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Speaker 1: who are on the front lines of protecting speech in

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Speaker 1: personal freedom, both of which are under attack worldwide. Often

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Speaker 1: in Western civilizations that were built on liberty. Joining me

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Speaker 1: now to give us an update on one of the

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Speaker 1: great threats to our personal freedom, censorship. Senior vice president

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Speaker 1: of Strategic Initiatives and Special Counsel to the President of

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Speaker 1: the Alliance Defending Freedom, Ryan Banker.

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Speaker 2: Ryan, great to have you on the show.

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Speaker 5: Hey John, thank you for having me on.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I love it. I had so much fun.

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Speaker 2: I could have stayed longer. I love the ADF team.

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Speaker 1: You're fighting the most epic cases that go to the

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Speaker 1: heart of our freedoms, our free speech, our right to

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Speaker 1: personal freedom.

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Speaker 2: You've got some big cases.

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Speaker 1: One of my favorite ones the Babylon B, which is

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Speaker 1: always when I need to laugh, I go there.

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Speaker 2: Tell us a little bit about that case.

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Speaker 5: No, we all love the Battlon B. And I'll tell

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Speaker 5: you meant.

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Speaker 12: You were at the summit and you saw our presentation

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Speaker 12: on censorship. Government censorship of speech is a real problem,

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Speaker 12: and you we ignore it at our peril. And in

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Speaker 12: California today, we are fighting two laws that were signed

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Speaker 12: by Governor Gavin Newsom last year that imposed just draconian

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Speaker 12: requirements on social media companies. On companies like the Babylon

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Speaker 12: B that engage in satire and parody, in particular political

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Speaker 12: satire and parody.

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Speaker 5: Now, these laws came out of.

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Speaker 12: An instance where a blogger me called himself mister Reagan USA,

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Speaker 12: posted a satire video of Kamala Harris after she announced

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Speaker 12: her presidency candidcy, and it was edited and modified using

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Speaker 12: AI tools in a very hilarious and sort of periodic way. Now,

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Speaker 12: Gavin Newsom was not going to stand for that, so

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Speaker 12: he called in the legislature to pass laws, which they

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Speaker 12: did that imposed raconian requirements on parody and satire sites

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Speaker 12: like the Battlon B, forcing them either to take down

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Speaker 12: satire and parody or to label it using large disclaimers

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Speaker 12: that ruined the effect entirely of the satire. It's a

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Speaker 12: direct attack on political speech. And we all know satire

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Speaker 12: and parody is one of the most effective ways to

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Speaker 12: convey political messages. And so that's why I think these

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Speaker 12: laws are so dangerous because they target core political speech,

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Speaker 12: which is really at the center of the First Amendment.

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Speaker 1: I doubt they asked Jimmy Kimmel to do the same thing.

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Speaker 1: Is there a double standard that you see often in

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Speaker 1: the way these are enforced very much.

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Speaker 12: So, I mean the enforcement that the devil's in the details,

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Speaker 12: and you can very much see the enforcement of these

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Speaker 12: laws is not even handed at all. Have seen this

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Speaker 12: at the federal level over and over again. We have

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Speaker 12: seen instances where government law enforcers have targeted conservative viewpoints

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Speaker 12: for surveillance, even for discrimination.

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Speaker 5: We've seen this time and time again. There's a case

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Speaker 5: that just went.

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Speaker 12: To the US Supreme Court last year, National Rifle Association

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Speaker 12: versus Vulo, in which the evidence demonstrated that the New

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Speaker 12: York Department of Financial Services leaned on banks and financial

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Speaker 12: institutions to stop doing business with the NRA simply because

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Speaker 12: the people who ran these departments opposed Second Amendment rights.

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Speaker 12: And I can give you example after example of government

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Speaker 12: regulators using their power in ways that discriminate against viewpoints

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Speaker 12: political and religious viewpoints they simply just don't like.

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Speaker 2: That is an unbelievable it's remarkable.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned Hawaii, and we had one case from the

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen election that just finally got reversed of a

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Speaker 1: mean that led to criminal charges. He wants to make

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Speaker 1: it a criminal fence. And I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: different memes. What's going on with that.

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Speaker 12: Gosh, well, i'll tell you what making memes illegal is

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Speaker 12: one of the most I don't want to say it's hilarious,

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Speaker 12: but it's actually laughable under the First Amendment. And again,

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Speaker 12: it just goes right back to what we're talking about

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Speaker 12: with the Babylon v.

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Speaker 2: Case.

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Speaker 12: Trying to make satire and parody, trying to make speech

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Speaker 12: illegal simply because it mocks, makes fun of, or communicates

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Speaker 12: a message that the regulators and the law enforcers don't like.

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Speaker 12: And I can give you another example of this. Look at

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Speaker 12: the Digital Services Act over in the European Union right now.

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Speaker 12: It makes illegal content subject to discrim Just like we

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Speaker 12: talked about Hawaii, you're talking about in California right now.

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Speaker 12: These are two blue states. Well, there's nothing more blue

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Speaker 12: right now than the European Union. The European Union has

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Speaker 12: a statute on the books called the Digital Services Act

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Speaker 12: that gives and empowers national coordinators of content to regulate

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Speaker 12: speech that either the Member States or the EU finds

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Speaker 12: to be illegal. Now, what's an example of illegal speech. Well,

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Speaker 12: it could be anything that threatens democratic values or things

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Speaker 12: that are just that subjective. And the problem with that

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Speaker 12: is it gives enforcers almost carte blanche to regulate speech

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Speaker 12: that they don't like. And when you look at the

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Speaker 12: laws like we have in Hawaii, like we have in California,

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Speaker 12: we see that very same problem seeping in to what

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Speaker 12: they're doing. And that's why it's so important for us

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Speaker 12: to be vigorous and enforcing the First Amendment and First

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Speaker 12: Amendment rights of Americans anytime we see them being in fringe.

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Speaker 12: So I think we just really have to be We

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Speaker 12: have to be very, very vigorous and very very on

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Speaker 12: top of these things all the time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You know, one of the most palpable things that I

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Speaker 1: picked away when I was at the picked up from

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Speaker 1: when I was at the ADF summon, was that Europe

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Speaker 1: is a potential mayor of what the left would like

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Speaker 1: to do to America. I mean, I read we had

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Speaker 1: a starying justin news the other day that the British

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Speaker 1: Bobby's the London Metropolitan Police they've created a special unit

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Speaker 1: to just rarest people who post about a legal immigration

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Speaker 1: in Europe. And wait a second, I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: the Western world right in the answer as well, it's

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Speaker 1: not the same Western world we used to be in.

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Speaker 1: Should we be looking at Europe as what the left

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Speaker 1: wants to do to us here in America.

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Speaker 5: I think if we would ignore Europe at our peril.

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Speaker 12: ADF has been very engaged in Europe over the past

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Speaker 12: several years, and some of the examples of censorship that

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Speaker 12: we have seen coming off the continent have just been shocking.

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Speaker 12: Look at the case of Pivey Rassen in Finland. She's

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Speaker 12: a member of Parliament who was criminally prosecuted merely for

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Speaker 12: of the sensibilities of the other politicians in Finland prosecuted

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Speaker 12: for putting up an ex post. Look at the case

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Speaker 12: of Adam Smith Connor in the UK. Talk about the

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Speaker 12: UK violating fundamental rights. He was praying silently on a

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Speaker 12: sidewalk near a wor clinic and was accosted by law

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Speaker 12: enforcement and ultimately prosecuted for violating a law that was

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Speaker 12: passed by Bournemouth Parish that prevented people from simp for

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Speaker 12: thought crimes. Imagine that thinking in his mind and praying

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Speaker 12: in his mind was a prosecutable offense under this British statue.

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Speaker 12: JdE Vance recently called out the Euopean Union.

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Speaker 5: He called out the.

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Speaker 12: UK and a speech that he made at the Munich

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Speaker 12: Security Conference earlier this year, asking the European leaders, what

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Speaker 12: is going on here? Why are you degrading fundamental speech

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Speaker 12: rights of your own citizens under the guise of rooting

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Speaker 12: out quote unquote illegal content. What is happening here? You

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Speaker 12: finest traditions of free speech, because they're slipping away.

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Speaker 5: And we absolutely need to.

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Speaker 12: Pay attention to this because, as we've pointed out already,

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Speaker 12: Hawaii in California are really the canaries in the coal

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Speaker 12: mine trying to import these same maladies into the United States.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: When I was a young boy and I used to

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Speaker 1: listen to two of my uncles, who were both extraordinary

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Speaker 1: heroes in World War Two, I don't think they could

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Speaker 1: gave their blood form that there would be thought crimes,

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Speaker 1: illegal memes, and restrictions on basic speech. But that is

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Speaker 1: what's sweeping parts of the Western world. It's why what

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Speaker 1: you do Ryan at the Alliance for Defending Freedom is

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Speaker 1: so important. Thanks for joining us, and thanks for all

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Speaker 1: the great work you do. Defriending liberty.

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Speaker 5: Of course, Sean, thank you for all you do as well.

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Speaker 5: For sure.

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Speaker 2: Thanks. Yeah, what a great conversation.

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Speaker 1: All right, folks, we got one more segment to go,

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Speaker 1: No Amanda, so you think what am I got to

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Speaker 2: He's my good colleague, Ben. We been good, heavy on

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Speaker 2: the show.

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Speaker 5: Well, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we love the work you do.

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Speaker 1: You were working a lot today, alzerbra Jean Armenia announcement

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Speaker 1: by President Trump and he's going to have a summit

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Speaker 1: with Putin. I mean, there's a lot to work out

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Speaker 1: before Peton's going to make a deal, but this seemed

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Speaker 1: policy efforts for peace.

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Speaker 13: Well, it's going to depend on how this plays out

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Speaker 13: your term. There are a lot of implications here for

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Speaker 13: a potential piece in Ukraine. How this plays out in

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Speaker 13: the Caucuses specifically, could potentially signal that they're not as

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Speaker 13: interested in peace long term. Honestly, there's a way of

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Speaker 13: looking at it that shows they're potentially setting up the

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Speaker 13: next proxy war against the Russians after the brand is

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Speaker 13: already over. Azerbaijan's already in the middle of a feud

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Speaker 13: with the Russians over the crackdown on these Aria mafia

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Speaker 13: and adding this security and transportation corridor through our mini

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Speaker 13: at a Turkey that's extending the reach of both Ankoro,

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Speaker 13: which is already a bit of a loose can in

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Speaker 13: the Middle East and the West. That sends a powerful

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Speaker 13: message to Putin, but it also potentially sets up the

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Speaker 13: next Domino.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's going to be something that wanted.

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Speaker 1: Listen, it's always a tinder dry region, one little thing

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Speaker 1: and have seven or eight down effect streams down to

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Speaker 1: effect downstream. When you look at this Donald Trump playing

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Speaker 1: and these are two Soviet republics. Trump's had his finger

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Speaker 1: in them the last few weeks, but Putin is just

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to win the war in Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: There's maybe a little bit of fread fits, a little

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Speaker 1: bit of head games going eire that Donald Trump could

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Speaker 1: reach into the Soviet region sphere of influence and maybe

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Speaker 1: at least just get something going. Do you think there

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Speaker 1: was some shadow diplomacy behind that.

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Speaker 13: I mean, there's certainly a psychological element. From a practical standpoint,

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Speaker 13: the war was essentially over two years ago, and what

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Speaker 13: Trump is added to this is a rat cation. It's

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Speaker 13: more of a consolidating the final issue. It's a peace

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Speaker 13: treaty in the sense that it's giving Azerbaijan what it

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Speaker 13: wanted to not start another war. And so it's more

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Speaker 13: of a formalization of the status quo with a small

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Speaker 13: concession there, and we found a way to cash in

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Speaker 13: on it. So, yes, there is a new element of

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Speaker 13: American presence in that region. There is one bit of

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Speaker 13: there is one country between Armenia and the Russians, that's Georgia,

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Speaker 13: which is more or less clamped down in the Russian camp.

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Speaker 13: So it's not necessarily as strong a signal as you

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Speaker 13: could potentially send, but it's definitely putting a US presence

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Speaker 13: much closer to the Russian doorstep on a different front.

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Speaker 1: Portant to remind people that Georgia was the first country

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Speaker 1: that Putin decided to invade before Ukraine's two invasions, so

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Speaker 1: it's always been an object focus of his. When you

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Speaker 1: look out, now, what should we expect out of the

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Speaker 1: Friday summit, Well.

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Speaker 13: They're going to be meeting in Alaska. The Wall Street

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Speaker 13: Journal was reporting that Putin had threatened or had offered,

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Speaker 13: to give a ceasefire in exchange for what they called

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Speaker 13: e Ukraine. In reality, they just want the four oh

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Speaker 13: blast that they've officially at annex, which is not anywhere

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Speaker 13: near half of the country. But that's not necessarily new.

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Speaker 13: That's the line that the Russians have been repeating for

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Speaker 13: months at this stage, and that would involve essentially Ukraine

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Speaker 13: withdrawing from some of its few remaining strong fortifications. Little

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Speaker 13: reason to suggest they're prepared to actually concede on that

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Speaker 5: It's entirely possible.

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Speaker 2: At this point, We're.

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Speaker 13: Looking at a high profile attempt by the Americans to

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Speaker 13: negotiate some sort of resolution on the US Russian front

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Speaker 13: that may not necessarily lead to an immediacyasfire in Ukraine

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Speaker 13: and addresses other areas we saw that happen in the

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Speaker 13: Riad talks. We see a lot of other areas for

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Speaker 1: So why the old cagev agent And he's going to

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Speaker 1: play his games. He's not going to bend easily when

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Speaker 1: you look at what lies ahead in the when Congress

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Speaker 1: gets fully back in September, more spending cuts, some decisions

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Speaker 1: around the horizon. Uh, codifying a lot of the other policies.

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Speaker 1: I've been hearing a lot of all makercy. We're going

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Speaker 1: to codify a ton of stuff that is just executive

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Speaker 1: order only now seems like it could be an unusually

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Speaker 1: busy fall for Congress.

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Speaker 13: Well, that would be optimistic, and it would mark a

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Speaker 13: significant change of pace for how they've been doing things

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Speaker 13: at the moment. But you know, they still only have

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Speaker 13: a two to three seat majority here, so there's not

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Speaker 13: a lot of room for error. And what we've seen

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Speaker 13: from this Congress is they put all their eggs in

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Speaker 13: one basket, got a lot done into one big beautiful bill.

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Speaker 13: But where's the legislative momentum going to come from. You know,

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Speaker 13: they've got the one beautiful bill in and that's brought

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Speaker 13: in a lot. But this has been a very executive

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Speaker 13: heavy president or presidency. That's been the case in the

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Speaker 2: And we're going to hit the Cress bank.

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Speaker 1: We kept going, Ben, we love the work you do

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Speaker 1: every day. Guys, We're going to hand off to Grant Ditchfeld.

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Speaker 1: Get our weekends started. Have a good one. We'll be

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Speaker 1: back on Monday.