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Speaker 1: You know, they were just like my friends, and as

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Speaker 3: Hello, I'm Lynn Hoffman. And on today's episode of Music

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Speaker 3: Saved Me, we welcome a true country music powerhouse, Phil Vasser.

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Speaker 3: Now for more than twenty five years, Phil's heartfelt songwriting

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Speaker 3: Day in Paradise, one of My Favorite music videos, and

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Speaker 3: American Child resonating with fans across generations. He has racked

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Speaker 3: blending heartfelt storytelling with infectious melodies. Today, Phil shares his

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Speaker 3: his near death experiences have given new meaning to every

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Speaker 3: lyric he writes in every note he plays. Phil Vasser,

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Music Save Me. It is wonderful to have

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Speaker 2: How you doing Lynn, Thanks for having me well.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for being here. And you know, I read

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Speaker 3: I was reading a little something about your past. You're

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? And I swear I think it's for me.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 3: So even the ones that love you help you, but

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Speaker 1: That is inspiring when people tell you. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: and that was way back in the day, you know,

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Speaker 2: And they came in, they were. They were supportive and

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Speaker 1: And you know, Nashville was just a really, really cool community.

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Speaker 1: And I just knew I made the right decision, you know,

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Speaker 1: and that was in the right place.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you were. And still I still know Dad is

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Speaker 3: that they you know, yeah, they raised us right. I

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Speaker 3: could talk to you for hours longer, but I want

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Speaker 3: to say thank you for all the charitable stuff you

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Speaker 3: do with musicians on call. I know you go to

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Speaker 3: in that way. And so we love musicians on call.

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Speaker 3: We've we've worked with them as well. So thank you

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Speaker 3: for that. Thank you for all you doing. Good luck

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Speaker 3: with everything in the future. Thank you, and thank you

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Speaker 3: for coming on music save me and and please come back.

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Speaker 2: Oh well anytime anytime. I love doing it.

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Speaker 1: And uh, this has been fun today, so you know

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Speaker 1: anytime you want.

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Speaker 3: Me all right sounds well, don't say that because I'm

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Speaker 3: going to call you.

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Speaker 2: Well, come on, all right.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Bill.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and thank you. Thank you