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Speaker 1: it's time to kick off today's program. It's Tank Davis,

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Speaker 1: have nice malls. It is Eric Raskin, Rasky. Thank you, phellow,

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Speaker 1: And that gets Rasky fired up, right absolutely. I mean,

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Speaker 1: what was the fight to save boxing? Was that Mayweather

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Speaker 5: Though?

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Speaker 1: I had Oscar de la Hoya on the Morning Combat pod.

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Speaker 1: fight to save boxing, as Larry Merchant said million times,

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Speaker 1: You're not going to save what or kill it? I

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Speaker 1: That started? Can I pause this?

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Speaker 1: A huge deal.

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Speaker 4: I think we can all put too much emphasis on

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Speaker 1: I love that love. I mean, it's it's never going

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Speaker 3: We were having this conversation earlier. I tried.

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Speaker 2: I tried to mow my lawn once after we moved

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Speaker 2: old and washed. You called yourself a washed married man.

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Speaker 2: Well, I may be able to beat you in a

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Speaker 2: most your favorite Oscar de La Hoya Felix Trinidad, both undefeated.

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Speaker 1: It's not my favorite fight, no, no, not the fight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean I can't. You can't run from who

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Speaker 1: But seriously, uh, that's why Oscar. I mean, he does

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's two guys stepping up to if in the

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Speaker 1: Move We can spend a lot of time talking about

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that criticism of Tank is actually

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Speaker 1: But I think this.

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Speaker 1: You might not be as handsome as Ryan.

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Speaker 4: You know you are, so so he's definitely got that

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Speaker 1: And speaking of exactly how good he is Rask, I

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Speaker 2: Of absolutely and I'll go all the way from the

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Speaker 3: In some of his fights.

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Speaker 3: So far it hasn't backfired on him, right.

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Speaker 2: He sets it up and eventually delivers, sometimes pretty late

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Speaker 2: and get that one done. The Mario Barrios Mario Barrios

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Speaker 2: Ryan Garcia can be so disciplined and boxo effectively longer.

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Speaker 2: As Kieran said, with maybe the slightly faster hands than

435
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Speaker 2: Javonte Davis, whether he can build a big enough lead

436
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Speaker 2: and Javonte can't close the distance and catch up and

437
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Speaker 2: get that knockout. So it'll be fascinating. You wouldn't be

438
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Speaker 2: surprised to see Javonte Tank Davis fall behind in this fight.

439
00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,720
Speaker 2: And then the question becomes can his smarts and power

440
00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,600
Speaker 2: combined bail and as it always you.

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Speaker 1: Just prompted me for a fun game here. I'm gonna

442
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna name categories as we break this fight down,

443
00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,560
Speaker 1: and you guys are gonna knee jerk reaction, tell me

444
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Speaker 1: who's got the advantage? All right? Are you ready? All right? Speed?

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00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,240
Speaker 2: I just I just said that I think I lean

446
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Speaker 2: Ryan slightly on hand.

447
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Speaker 4: Speed, uh tank handed javontai feet.

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Speaker 1: That's an even deeper level of analysis. I like that

449
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Speaker 1: power over his speed is power speed. His power wouldn't

450
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Speaker 1: put together in combinations, right.

451
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Speaker 2: It can be That's the point I would you don't

452
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Speaker 2: see coming as they say, I think I'm gonna go

453
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Speaker 2: Javonte Davis overall because it's two fisted power. But if

454
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Speaker 2: I could throw one back at you, whose left hand

455
00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,320
Speaker 2: is more dangerous? Ryan Garcia's or Tank Davis's.

456
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Speaker 1: I think the proof is in the putt in. As

457
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Speaker 1: Floyd would say, it's Tank Davis.

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Speaker 4: Right right, Yeah, I'm gonna go a tank guy, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, experience we know is tank. How about defense from

460
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Speaker 1: what you guys have seen.

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Speaker 2: I'm going Tank on that as well, although I'll say

462
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Speaker 2: that Garcia is showing improvement defensively under Joe Goosen to

463
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Speaker 2: this point, and if he can take another step up

464
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Speaker 2: defensively from Fight two to Fight Free with Joe Goosen,

465
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Speaker 2: maybe that closer to that gap.

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Speaker 1: Put a pin in Goosen. We'll get to him in

467
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Speaker 1: a second. But moll the category. I think that's interesting

468
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Speaker 1: that that brings up another discussion. Is Chin slash durability?

469
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Speaker 1: How overblown? Because I think people still referencing to this

470
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 1: day that Jose Miguelkoto wants rock Canelo Alvarez and then

471
00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,520
Speaker 1: it never happened again. Right he walked right up to Gervante.

472
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry Ganadi's front door and was like,

473
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 1: give me the Mexican style. I'm here for it. How overblown?

474
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Speaker 1: Is the Luke Campbell early knockdown in which he did

475
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Speaker 1: get up off the canvas stop the guy and retire him.

476
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Speaker 1: By the way, that so is that overblown entering this

477
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Speaker 1: matchup because the advantage here of history is obviously Tank

478
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Speaker 1: un chin and durability. How much do you question that

479
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 1: for Ryan in this flight?

480
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Speaker 4: Not a great deal. Yeah, Look, he dropped his hands.

481
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 4: He was being a little bit too casual. That's gonna happen.

482
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Speaker 4: Luke Campbell is a world class quality fighter, if not

483
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Speaker 4: quite at Ryan Garcia or Tank Davis's level. He got cracked,

484
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Speaker 4: he got.

485
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Speaker 1: Up, he won the fight.

486
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Speaker 4: It happens.

487
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Speaker 1: I don't I would lean.

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Speaker 4: If you were to ask me again who has the

489
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Speaker 4: best gen I'm gonna say Tank simply. I'm not sure

490
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Speaker 4: have we ever actually seen Tank Davis buzz I'm not

491
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Speaker 4: sure that we have postfight maybe a few times, and

492
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Speaker 4: then you just look at him physically. He's got that

493
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Speaker 4: Mike Tyson kind of head bolted onto his shoulders kind

494
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Speaker 4: of thing. So yeah, I think Tank probably has the

495
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Speaker 4: more solid chin. But I think we can totally that

496
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Speaker 4: whole issue with Ryan getting knocked down.

497
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Speaker 1: That just happens.

498
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 4: Almost everybody gets knocked down at some point.

499
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Speaker 2: And on the defensive point, and the improvements he made

500
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Speaker 2: under he's made under Joe Goosen. The biggest thing that

501
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Speaker 2: I've noticed is that right hand stays throwing it. He's

502
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Speaker 2: not going to get caught with that same shot. Louke

503
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Speaker 2: Campbell caught.

504
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Speaker 1: That's going to be a big part of this master.

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Speaker 3: My second favorite Campbell, Luke Campbell.

506
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Speaker 1: Oh wow, I get to be here.

507
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Speaker 3: First.

508
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Speaker 1: I thought you were going to go like prime Naomi

509
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Speaker 1: Campbell or something from your swim suit, you know, high

510
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Speaker 1: school days there you you know, I mean, do you

511
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Speaker 1: have a gross search history? Rask? That's the question. You know,

512
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Speaker 1: we're all thinking it right, you know, always delete the

513
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Speaker 1: last sort of head to head here I want to

514
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Speaker 1: throw out. And it's multifaceted. It's it's intangibles. So some

515
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Speaker 1: of that is experienced and Gravante's got the edge. Some

516
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Speaker 1: of that can be mental toughness slash how well they're

517
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Speaker 1: dialed in. I'm here to tell you, guys, Ryan Garcia,

518
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Speaker 1: from the close ups we've seen in the press conferences,

519
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Speaker 1: from him dealing with Tank being late for that New

520
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Speaker 1: York City press conference, from his ability to stand across

521
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Speaker 1: from him, whether that means anything longer, and I tend

522
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Speaker 1: to think it does. We know he's dangerous enough to

523
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Speaker 1: win this fight and score and score even you know, okayoh,

524
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Speaker 1: I mean that he brings that. I also think he's

525
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 1: confident Slash maybe doesn't know any better enough or whatever. Whatever.

526
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 1: The the full you know, percentages are he's ready to

527
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Speaker 1: go in there and win this fight, and that it

528
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Speaker 1: speaks to something. I mean, it should be automatic, but

529
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Speaker 1: it's not always.

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Speaker 4: And I think this is where having Joe Gooseen in

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Speaker 4: his corner and having him in training camp makes a

532
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Speaker 4: big difference. Joe is so chill, he's so relaxed, he's

533
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Speaker 4: been there. He's going to convey that same sense of

534
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,959
Speaker 4: calmness and confidence to Ryan. I suspect there are probably

535
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Speaker 4: a really good combination those guys, and I think that's

536
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Speaker 4: really gonna help him obviously, you know, as Mike Tyson

537
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 4: always said, everybody's got a plan until they get punched

538
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Speaker 4: in the face. And we'll see what happens when we're

539
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Speaker 4: actually in there. I think we've all seen fighters who've

540
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Speaker 4: looked pretty good in the build up, pretty good in

541
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Speaker 4: fight week, and then there's that ring walk that really

542
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Speaker 4: separates the good from the great, and we'll see what happens.

543
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 4: It's on Saturday night, but yeah, I think. I don't

544
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Speaker 4: think that self belief has necessarily ever been Ryan Garcia's problem,

545
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,640
Speaker 4: and nor should it be. If you're a professional price fighter,

546
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 4: you've got to have that. Conversely, obviously Tank's got some

547
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 4: other issues going on, but I also think he's the

548
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 4: kind of person that I reckon I be talking about

549
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 4: this on our podcast, that he's able to compartmentalize that

550
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 4: kind of stuff and the same way that Floyd was

551
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Speaker 4: able to compartmentalize.

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Speaker 1: Best comparison you can make, I say it's unflappable. I

553
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 1: compared to John Jones and the MMA circles, who has

554
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Speaker 1: got a lot of outside the cage issues and then

555
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 1: walks right back in there and he's the John Jones

556
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Speaker 1: of old, part of this overall intangible bubble. Well, just

557
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 1: to close on Garcia's confidence and I want to bring

558
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Speaker 1: you in, Resk, I say it should be automatically sur

559
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Speaker 1: prize fighter. If he's gonna fight somebody in Las Vegas

560
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Speaker 1: on pay per view, he's not scared. I'm not saying that,

561
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 1: but I'm saying that everybody's willing to risk it all,

562
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Speaker 1: sometimes for strategic purposes. Sometimes it's just not in them.

563
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: Remember when Danny Garcia, Fauterirrel Spence, and it's sort of like, Okay,

564
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Speaker 1: you're probably gonna lose this fight by decision. As it's

565
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Speaker 1: going on, We're like Gopher broke. It's that's just not

566
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Speaker 1: who he is, right, Ryan Garcia, whether it's ends up

567
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 1: being good for him or not. Inside the ring Saturday night,

568
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Speaker 1: I think he is. I think he's going to go

569
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Speaker 1: for it. That's not always automatic. But the Tank side

570
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Speaker 1: of it, Rask, he does have impending legal issues. There

571
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Speaker 1: will be a court deck that tells you after this

572
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: fight the odds are in the favor that he could

573
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Speaker 1: be serving time. We famously saw the comparison to Mayweather

574
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Speaker 1: and twenty twelve when he had the looming court date

575
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Speaker 1: against Kodo. I mean, the state Nevada was like, we'll

576
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 1: just move your fight to a different We'll let you

577
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Speaker 1: delay your sentence so that we can bring in hundreds

578
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Speaker 1: of million dollars to the city's economy. That's how they

579
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Speaker 1: do it out here apparently. But Rask, that's real though,

580
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Speaker 1: that's real. Yeah? Is that not even in your mind?

581
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 1: That it's in Tank's mind coming into here.

582
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Speaker 3: I think it could be.

583
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Speaker 2: I think we have to be aware of the possibility

584
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Speaker 2: that that's looming somewhere in the back of his mind.

585
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Speaker 2: As Kieran said, as we said on our podcast Showtime

586
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Speaker 2: Boxing with Rask and Melvinia available where.

587
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Speaker 1: All downloaded Lake and subscribe.

588
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Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, as we said, he has shown an ability

589
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Speaker 2: to compartmentalize to this point. This is a bigger potential

590
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 2: distraction than anything he's faced previously. I forget who it

591
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 2: was that we had on our podcast who was talking

592
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 2: about his fight against Hector Garcia and how when the

593
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Speaker 2: fight broke out in the crowd.

594
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 3: Was Bob Santos.

595
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Speaker 2: How the fight broke out in the crowd and Javonte

596
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 2: Davis was so locked in that he was able to

597
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Speaker 2: in the moment he was getting a little tired, it

598
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 2: seemed kind of in the moment able to direct the

599
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Speaker 2: referee to sort of pause the fight he had going

600
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Speaker 2: on with Hector Garcia and call time out while they

601
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Speaker 2: dealt with it. He was so in control of his

602
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 2: faculties in the middle of the fight that it just

603
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 2: seems like he has that ability to hyper focus when

604
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Speaker 2: he's in the ring, when he's in the moment. So

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Speaker 2: I would be very surprised if we see something less

606
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Speaker 2: than one hundred percent mentally focused to the tank Davis

607
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Speaker 2: because of everything going on.

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Speaker 3: But just like you don't know until you get punched

609
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Speaker 3: in the mouth.

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Speaker 2: You don't know until you're fighting two weeks before a

611
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Speaker 2: court date exactly how it's gonna appens.

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Speaker 1: A fair point. And when you make that reference in

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Speaker 1: the Floyd is the obviously one, it runs me of

614
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: Floyd Judah right two thousand and six, right, uh, you

615
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 1: know Judah's low blowing him, hitting him behind the head.

616
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Speaker 1: The trainers are fighting, and Floyd's just like, come on, guys,

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Speaker 1: can you finish up so we can you know, I

618
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: can make these millions, right, I mean you were probably

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Speaker 1: here for that.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't here for that, but I was here for

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Speaker 4: Floyd Koto. And even during that fight, remember Codo actually

622
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 4: even bloodied Floyd's yes, and Floyd just went back to

623
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Speaker 4: the corner and smiled like he was like, all right,

624
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Speaker 4: now we're going to have a real fight.

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing.

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Speaker 4: That's what the very best, like the very best athletes generally,

627
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Speaker 4: and particularly the very best price fighters, they're able to

628
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Speaker 4: do They're able to compartmentalize. I mean, when you think

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Speaker 4: about what their job is, their job is to get

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Speaker 4: into a ring with somebody who's trying to render them

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Speaker 4: n conscious just by definition, to be successful at that,

632
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Speaker 4: you've got to be able to put aside anything else

633
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Speaker 4: that might be in your brain that's going to stop

634
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Speaker 4: you from focusing on that person. And I really, you know,

635
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Speaker 4: I think Tank Davis is one of the smartest, most

636
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Speaker 4: mentally focused guys inmboxing.

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Speaker 1: In the ring.

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Speaker 4: Yes, outside of the ring might be a different issue.

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Speaker 1: Especially in terms of we can't avoid that it has

640
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Speaker 1: been He's got legitimate issues that he's facing, and it's

641
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: hurt's reputation. But I don't think it's hurt. I don't

642
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: think it's hurd his fan base or the dollars because

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, he delivers in the

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Speaker 1: ring and that's what people want to see. But you know,

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Speaker 1: if he has taken something from Floyd, it's the compartmentalization.

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Speaker 1: Remember even when Floyd got hurt against mostly, how calmly

647
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Speaker 1: he held the arm, how calmly he got out of

648
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Speaker 1: the situation and did that. I actually hope in this fight,

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Speaker 1: you know, because if we want to see the best

650
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Speaker 1: fight possible, I hope Brian Garcia lands that left took.

651
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: I hope we get to see some of that from

652
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: Tank and I and I have to believe from what

653
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: we've seen up to this point that he'll be ready,

654
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: He'll be on point. Rask. We were talking about the

655
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: Trainers and Joe Goosen. Do you think he improves the

656
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: style game at all of Ryan Garcia? Because Joe's got

657
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: more Canadian tuxedos, then, I don't know what the reference

658
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: point here is, but he's got a lot of them,

659
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

660
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 3: More than prime John bon Jovi.

661
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 2: He had a lot of I have to say, because

662
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,239
Speaker 2: where I grew up in Kaking, Prussia, it was known

663
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 2: as a New Jersey tuxedo, not a Canadian tuxi.

664
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: Because that's where it's like, we're we're close enough to

665
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: Jersey that we look like Jersey, but we're king of

666
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: precious right we look down? Yeah, Yeah, John Slippery went wet.

667
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: They say that about you in high school or we're going, yeah,

668
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: I love fruit just but the Joe Goosen effects seems

669
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: to be strong. And you know the tip I got

670
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: from interviewing Joe Goosen out of this fight in the area,

671
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: because when I first heard of that matchup, I'm like, Oh,

672
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: Pregress is already one of the most dynamic offensive fighters

673
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: in this game and the most dangerous because of his

674
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: willingness to walk you down with the speed and power

675
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: and combinations. I'm like, I don't know if you need

676
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: to match him with one of the most dynamic offensive

677
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: coaches of this modern era. Guy who think Diego corralis

678
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: Think John Molina stopping Mickey bay laid on Showbox, think

679
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: of all these like he gets in that ass and

680
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: gets these people to go. But what Goose ultimately the

681
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: He's gonna be in the Hall of Fame this year's Yes,

682
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what he wears. By the way.

683
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: What he seems to have brought in his eyes is

684
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: the stability in almost that father ro and I think

685
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: we have to remember that. I mean, look, no for

686
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: an Oscar who changed trainers constantly in his prime, in

687
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: a lot of times for strategic or situational purposes, but

688
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: also probably for that relationship. Ryan Garcia felt when he

689
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: was Eddie Renosso and Team Canelo that that same thing

690
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,719
Speaker 1: that happened to a lot of Freddie Roach fighters when

691
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: that stable got popular, that they're not getting the same

692
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: one on one time because the Jim's full champions. Now

693
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: he's got the guy. Does that matter, Karen? Do we

694
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: see that on fight night? Do we see the results

695
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: that beyond just keep your hand up to block the

696
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,239
Speaker 1: hook beyond? Hey man, we got to move that chin

697
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: a little bit more. If the tape is telling us anything,

698
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: it might be just I'm here for you. I love you.

699
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: I mean, remember when they threw the pizza at Victor

700
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: ortiz Man. I remember Joseph Janet coach Hoss was ready

701
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: to get in there and brawl, and he stayed with

702
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: him in the hospital that night. Sometimes you just need

703
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: that brother and the dirt with you, you know what I mean.

704
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's what I was referring to earlier when

705
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 4: talking about Ryan's state of mind coming into this. The

706
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 4: fact that Joe, as we know, is such a calming presence.

707
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 4: He has been there, he's seen it, he's done it.

708
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 4: You only have to look at that famous tenth round

709
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 4: of Krates Castillo to see how incredibly calm and how

710
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 4: good his advice can be under the most difficult of conditions.

711
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: I think, you know.

712
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 4: To get back to your question also about stylistically, why

713
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 4: you would hook up with Joe. What I like about

714
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 4: it is that it shows to me that Ryan knows

715
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 4: who he is and he's not trying to fix himself.

716
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: And that was a lot of the problem with Oscar.

717
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 4: He was always trying to fix this or fix that,

718
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 4: or change this or change that. I suspect that Ryan's like,

719
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 4: you know what, this is the kind of fighter that

720
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 4: I am. Joe Goosen is the right kind of trainer

721
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 4: for that. He's good for me tactically, he's good for

722
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 4: me stylistically. Plus there's that a whole extra element that

723
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 4: you just feel chill around Joe, you just do. And

724
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,959
Speaker 4: I think that combination is probably going to work out

725
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 4: pretty well more than even like Brian move your feet

726
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 4: a bit better and all that kind of stuff.

727
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: So I think, yeah, probably right. I think that matters

728
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: at the end of the day. And as it pertains

729
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: to this fight Rask. I think the Calvin for the trainer,

730
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: I think Tank from what we've seen in the all

731
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: access close ups is they are very well respecting the

732
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: danger that that Ryan brings, and they respect Joe goose

733
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: presence as a veteran in that corner. Like I don't

734
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: think you're gonna see a ton of trash talk. We

735
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: saw a little bit of trash talk in the face

736
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: offs and the press of Again, it was mostly connected

737
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,479
Speaker 1: to the idea of you're the A side and you're

738
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: running late, you're getting my head, you're embarrassing me. I

739
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of respect, and that seems like

740
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: a good sign if you're putting your money on Tank

741
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: this week.

742
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 3: I agree completely.

743
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 2: This isn't a Benevitez plant situation where the animosity is

744
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 2: a huge part of the storyline. Maybe these guys like

745
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 2: each other, maybe they dislike each other, they definitely don't

746
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: hate each other. I'm not getting that sense at all.

747
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 2: This is a fight that doesn't need the animosity to

748
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 2: sell it. You just have the quality of the fight

749
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: itself and the star potential of these two fighters that

750
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 2: really stands out here. Yeah, about the Joe Goosen trainer change,

751
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 2: I guess it's a perfect case of it's good to

752
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 2: change trainers at a certain point when your original trainer

753
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: has taken you about as far as he can, you

754
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 2: need a new voice in the corner. There's an excess

755
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 2: of trainer changes where it starts to backfire on you.

756
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 2: Oscar being an obvious example, he had too many. But

757
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 2: right now we're seeing what I think with Anthony Joshua

758
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 2: to an extent, like, uh, this was my trainer and

759
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try this guy. Oh that didn't work. I'm

760
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,239
Speaker 2: gonna jump to another guy. And you don't know who

761
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 2: you are. At a certain point, I think Ryan Garcia,

762
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 2: as Kieran said, he knows who he is, he knows

763
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 2: what he needs. Joe Goosen is the perfect guy. It

764
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 2: would appear at this point to fine tune that and

765
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 2: bring out the best of Ryan Garcia.

766
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: I wish there was like remember Choose your own Adventure books.

767
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: Of course those were great, right, you know, and then

768
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: you know every time you read it could end differently,

769
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: and you had you felt like you had some control.

770
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: And I always felt with my cable box as a

771
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: kid that like if you were watching a movie and

772
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: it looked good and there was like a hot chick,

773
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: but then they were like press this button for twenty

774
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: five dollars, show go topless for the rest of the scene.

775
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: Like I always wish there was that pay for play

776
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: element in there. I had I had a punchline for this,

777
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: but like I caught up in that part.

778
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 3: Event do you have a favorite. Choose your own adventure.

779
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 3: I'll tell you mine.

780
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: I don't offhand, what do you have?

781
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 3: Who killed Harlow Thromby? Remember that one?

782
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: No, I don't. That's that's an older school reference. And

783
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: even I'm willing to make that man I had. I

784
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: was really I was cooking. I had something that was

785
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: connective tissue was going to land with a bang about

786
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:58,719
Speaker 1: this fight on Saturday.

787
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,719
Speaker 3: Now, if I was trying a bit failure who I

788
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 3: am and.

789
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: Where I was and where I'm from? All right, well

790
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: maybe that's the perfect transition into our next part of

791
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: this segment. Guys. And you know, Rask, you're an old

792
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,919
Speaker 1: piece of shit like me, class of ninety three high school.

793
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 3: That's right, That's right.

794
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: So you know when I say Joan Osborne's biggest hit, You're.

795
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,439
Speaker 3: Like, what what if God was one.

796
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 1: One of us? I think, I mean, just the slob

797
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: like one of us, you know, just the stranger on

798
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 1: the bush trying to make his way home. What if

799
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: Dravonte Davis Starfighter was just like one of us? And

800
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,720
Speaker 1: by one of us, I mean just like me BC

801
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: and GTD all Excess is a fantastic uh pre fight

802
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: vehicle at the Showtime people put together to get us

803
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: fired up for this fight. There's two episodes for this.

804
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: You can catch them both right now on the Showtime

805
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: Sports YouTube channel. Episode two kicked off with Davonte Davis

806
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: getting a little post workout snack and your boy BC

807
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: gets this feeling. Let's see if you do too. Let's

808
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: run the videotape.

809
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.

810
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 6: When you go potsorrow, you gotta got smoothie.

811
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: What did Johnny ran to Troyes?

812
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 6: I will get that, but it's not glazed the King

813
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 6: pat you always go. King gotta go purp with skittles. God,

814
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 6: get down and it's all Wow.

815
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm in camp too.

816
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 6: Definitely, don't worry because I'm definitely making weight. Laffy Taffy bikes.

817
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 6: Get a couple of these too.

818
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 3: I'm Gucci seventy forty six.

819
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 6: Thank you, see you tomorrow.

820
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: I hope the people were able to see that. That

821
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: didn't kick in on our monitors. They didn't. Okay, apologies

822
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: for that area. You did get to hear it. At

823
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: least we'll run this video back. But first of all,

824
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: this man spent seventy dollars in like a seven to eleven,

825
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: So shout out to that. I mean, you know, you

826
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: load up on those beef jerkys. It can get there.

827
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: But Rask, people know my brand, they know the liver

828
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: that I'm that I'm constantly hurting. They know. I don't

829
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: know if they know this, but in middle of nowhere, Utah,

830
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: on my vacation last week, I bought a twenty dollars

831
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: bag of prime rib beef jerky from this uh, from

832
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: this alien looking rest stop. Do you have a history?

833
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: I know Malve does, and I want to get into

834
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: it because he's British so there could be crisps involved.

835
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: Do you have a history of abusing yourself in the

836
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: seven eleven like I do? And that's how you came

837
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 1: up because that's why I was raised.

838
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,720
Speaker 2: Bitch, you may have to pass it to Malve sooner

839
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 2: than you expected, because to me, gas stations are for

840
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 2: pumping gas.

841
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 3: BC don't.

842
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: I don't.

843
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:35,959
Speaker 3: I don't eat from the gas station.

844
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: Gas stations are for the rollers, Rask. Okay, they're for

845
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: the nachos, they're for the slurpees. I mean, would you

846
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: say that your parents tried to raise you with the

847
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: values that you're too good for this?

848
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 2: That's what you're trying to say, Well, to be honest,

849
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 2: I was raised Kosher, so there wasn't like the gas

850
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 2: station hot dog would have been My God would not

851
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 2: have approved of it. Okay, so there's that on time. Now,

852
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: I'm lactose intolerant boy, I'm not the right guy for

853
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 2: this conversation. That.

854
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, because people know when I go to Cumberland Farms,

855
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: they know what I'm looking for. What's mauve get down.

856
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,760
Speaker 4: With it is the gas station egg salad sandwich.

857
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that sounds like.

858
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 3: How long has that been sitting there?

859
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: Typically it doesn't last very long after hours, days, weeks.

860
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, possibly, that's That's honestly not a concern. I think

861
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 4: sometimes the longer it has been sitting there, the better.

862
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 1: It's just I.

863
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 4: Mean, once you're making that commitment that the gas station,

864
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 4: the gas station is where I'm dining tonight, you're not

865
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 4: necessarily focusing on the freshness factor. Yeah, it's a choice.

866
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 4: It is a lifestyle choice, and it's fine. And the

867
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 4: problem is I tend to be one of these people

868
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 4: that like, I'm in the city and the first time

869
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 4: I was in the city, I got an excelled sandwich

870
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 4: at this gas station. Now I must always get an

871
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 4: ex saled sandwich at this gas station, plus ruffles with

872
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 4: beaned it that's the okay, and a diet coke.

873
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, Sadly, I've been there many times, and I

874
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: will say this. I used to work out a newspaper

875
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: by the way that had a machine that had like

876
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: fresh food in every day. And by fresh food and

877
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: I mean like chili dogs and meatball grinders. And I

878
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: used to eat I either like five straight shifts one time.

879
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: You know how much inner damage when I went to

880
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: the UK. That's what I'm trying to get to because

881
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: MK was in the UK. I hope you So. I

882
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: don't know if this footage is ever going to see

883
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: the light of day, or if for the next document

884
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: documentary is coming out, or if Jake even works there anymore,

885
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: but I will tell you this, Karen, I sampled the

886
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: cuisine there in London because I wanted to feel like,

887
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: you know, because at the end of the day, well,

888
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: London's like classy, it's an international you know, circle of

889
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: hope in life. But it's it's a bougie factory town.

890
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 4: We can be honest, right, yeah, absolutely, Okay, it's not

891
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 4: a bougie multicultural bund there you go. When I was

892
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 4: growing up, okay, everything was boiled, but no, but now

893
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 4: it's Yeah.

894
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: So I go in there and I did crips. And

895
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: by the way they do their they do UK candy.

896
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: It's just off the turn. Oh. I mean it's just

897
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: it's not even close. But they sell three sandwich packages

898
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: and the sandwiches are wildly different and so like it's

899
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: just really thick white bread in three separate So the

900
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: first one was basically like a spread of barbecue sauce

901
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: with like a pesto consistency and tasted pork in there,

902
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: just spread between two pieces. The next one was like

903
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: peanut butter, and then all these other weird I mean

904
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: it got weird. Is there any and it went worse?

905
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: It was like egg salad next one. I mean, you

906
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: would have loved it. Is there anything though? That the

907
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: that the the Americans just don't know that you that

908
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: you wish you could take back from the UK and

909
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: put it into your local Uh what do you what

910
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: do you rock a circle?

911
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 6: Kay?

912
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: What's your uh? When you go to do the sin?

913
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 4: You know people don't do Branston pickle here, right, it's

914
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 4: the it's the cheese it's the plowman's sandwich, right, which

915
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 4: is thick cheddar cheese, Branston pickle.

916
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: Wow.

917
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, and on a good bread. That's That's the thing.

918
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: That's classy rasque. Can I get you into slurpees or anything?

919
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: Don't you miss that too?

920
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 2: I like a good slurpee. I'll here, here's my it's

921
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 2: not gas station. And maybe this this doesn't qualify in

922
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 2: your mind, but my wife often criticizes me.

923
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 3: I'll buy the grocery store market sushi. Is that is that?

924
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: That's almost disgusting. You should you should stab yourself with

925
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: a heart right now? Oh my god, I mean buying habits. Yeah, seriously,

926
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: I wouldn't go anywhere near that. I mean I do

927
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: have limits. I've done the hot dogs with the cheese

928
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: pre inserted, by the way, Oh and the pretze. Let's

929
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: do with the pre insertion on the cheese. Hey, let's

930
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: close with this because and we got a great show

931
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 1: to come on another guest, a lot of MMA talk

932
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 1: and boxing and sandwiches. This is thing attacking me. I

933
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on right now. I want to

934
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: close with this. You guys, I say this and I

935
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: and I hope it doesn't come across the rude. But

936
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: you know, when I got into the boxing game a

937
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: couple of years behind you guys, you guys were my idols,

938
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: and I think you still are. Okay, I love you guys.

939
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: Let's manhug no, I will say that. You know, you

940
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: guys are tremendous writers, and I've been blessed to become

941
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: friends with you and go up and down the road

942
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: and cover big fights. We're almost at the ten year

943
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: anniversary of my first Vegas trip in that September Canelo

944
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: versus Floyd, Well of you and I you know, that

945
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: was a dude that I did pick a big one,

946
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: a great one for my first one, right because I

947
00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: don't think I've even been out of fight week. Maybe

948
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 1: a Pacio included Mayweather McGregor included. That felt that joyous

949
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: in fun, like a celebration, like we finally got our

950
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: super fight. It's back. It didn't even matter if the

951
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: fight wasn't great, and it wasn't it was not great.

952
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: But we've been doing this for a long time. I

953
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: love talking to you. What's my favorite thing to do?

954
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: Take you off for a beer and be like all right, uh,

955
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: Pacquiel Marcus for what was it like, what did it

956
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: smell like? We've been up and down a lot in

957
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 1: that regard. I love how he says last Vegas too,

958
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 1: He's got rasc You are the go to guy when

959
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: it comes to Atlantic City. The Gotti run all of

960
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: that in local New York. But what was your first

961
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 1: Vegas fight?

962
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 2: My first Vegas fight was Holyfield Lewis two, or I

963
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 2: guess I should say Lewis Holyfield two, nineteen ninety nine

964
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 2: stayed at the Hilton.

965
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: That fight wasn't that bad. It's just that the controversy

966
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: of the first one stained the whole series.

967
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of interesting.

968
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 2: I actually thought the second fight could have been scored

969
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 2: to draw, which the first fight, of course, was very

970
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 2: controversially scored to draw. They gave Lewis the they needed

971
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 2: to give Lewis the decision in the second.

972
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: Love corruption in boxing, they just love it. We saw

973
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: C J. Ross that night of Mayweather Canelo, but you

974
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: you know, we've the whole point is this long setup

975
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: is we've been up and down the road. And I

976
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 1: went through my phone in the saved pictures, which I

977
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: only go to on airplane flights when i'm you know,

978
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: when you can't play like the chess app or majong anymore.

979
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. You've listened to every CD

980
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 1: you've got downloaded, So now I'm looking at old fight picks.

981
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: I wanted to try to chronicle for us and the

982
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 1: fans our journey together as men. Okay, let's look here,

983
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: here we go, let's see this first. This is Karen

984
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: mulvaney and I on the set of Sports Center doing

985
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 1: ESPN digitals, making the rounds back in twenty thirteen. Yes,

986
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: our eyes are closed here and you look a lot

987
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 1: bit younger in that phone.

988
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 4: Yeah a lot bit Yeah, a lot bit longer. Yeah,

989
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 4: that's there. Seems to be something different. I can't quite.

990
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 1: By the way, as you and I were remembering, the

991
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 1: director that was on site from a producer from actual

992
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: showtime was like, what we got to do another one?

993
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: And then when we walked up on set, I mean,

994
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 1: they could not have wanted us their last. But that

995
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 1: was a big moment early in my career. Thanks for

996
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: being part of that.

997
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 4: I was very happy to be and I was happy

998
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 4: to make my joke about boxes underwear being incredibly heavy

999
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 4: because you get fighter step on the scale and they're

1000
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 4: clearly overweight and then they just take their underwear off

1001
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 4: and by magic they've lost half a pound.

1002
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: And that, yeah, did not last everybody did. It was like,

1003
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 1: really two dicks, that's a bunchline. Okay, yeah, never matter,

1004
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: all right, let's go to the next slide here, as

1005
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: on our journey, Look at this three man boy band

1006
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: retting to break out twenty fifteen Vegas Codo versus Canelo.

1007
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: That's Eric Raskine in the middle, your boy BC on left,

1008
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: and Raf Bartholom you our brother in arms right, our

1009
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: podcasting bro Hammer right there, Rascal. That was a fun weekend.

1010
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 2: Remember so many gingers in that photo between Raith and

1011
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 2: Caneloo and my bright red shoelaces.

1012
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: Where about were we doing a Charlie's Angels boy band

1013
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: bit right there? I mean, I'm not quite sure what

1014
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,240
Speaker 1: it was, but ninety six degrees.

1015
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 2: I hope I'm not spoiling an upcoming photo. But was

1016
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 2: that the same weekend where we went campioning with Eric Morales?

1017
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: We did? We did? I don't have that photo, but

1018
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: I do have of other camping photos. If we can

1019
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: go to the next slide here, the Great Rocky war

1020
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: as we found him on the uh Mandalay Bay Casino

1021
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 1: floor and rask you and Rocky have that same type

1022
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: of like, I know, I look washed, but this shirt

1023
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: says I'm ready to bang going on.

1024
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 3: We're almost wearing the same shirt. You know.

1025
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 2: My favorite thing about that photo is every photo I've

1026
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 2: ever been in with you and Wraith, I look like

1027
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 2: I'm five ft two.

1028
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 3: You rock keeps me from I.

1029
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: Was a huge fan of your writing and still am.

1030
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: And when I saw you in the men's room at

1031
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: Radio City Music Hall and we met for the first

1032
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: time before the start of Reagan Now versus don't air,

1033
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, he's a lot short than I

1034
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: thought he was. I'm I don't mean that to insult.

1035
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 2: Your resk in my prime, I round it up to

1036
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 2: five nine.

1037
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I've in heels. Wow that was a fishnets Wow.

1038
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: How many other Boxing Hall of Famers you want to mention?

1039
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: Let's go to the next piece of content right here. Oh,

1040
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: look at this, remember that that great party. This is goodenough?

1041
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: Gnadi Glove, can I think versus uh? Maybe that's Gloveken

1042
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: Alvarez one.

1043
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 4: Maybe and my little blue snowball.

1044
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: Either way, that's when you guys did that podcast with

1045
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: that other network, never much. You never heard of it.

1046
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: And I think we've got a couple more here of

1047
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: our great moments.

1048
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:15,959
Speaker 3: In uh.

1049
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: Ras. Well, speaking of great moments, this wasn't Vegas, but

1050
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: I believe we have Richard Schaeffer on set right now

1051
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: to relive this moment. This was after Lucas Mattissa knocked

1052
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: out Mike Dallas Junior. Was it? Was it?

1053
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 5: Well?

1054
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 2: So I think you may be conflating two different things.

1055
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 2: But are you talking about the manupac yel line. Yes,

1056
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 2: So that was after Matisse knocked out one of the

1057
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 2: la Mont Peterson.

1058
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 1: That's right to set up the Danny Garcia fight, which,

1059
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: by the way, Synergy was the co main event of

1060
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: Canelo versus Floyd in twenty thirteen. But Richard Schaefer commandeered

1061
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: the mic and wanted the world to know that Lucas

1062
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: Matis was the next, and we happened to at Rask.

1063
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if you from you know, you do

1064
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: a great bit here. You do a great impression of

1065
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: old Tricky Dick there, would you sure?

1066
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 2: I'll make it as though he was talking to I'm

1067
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: Gray and you know, Jim, there is a no Mammy

1068
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 2: Paco and his name is Lucasta Machine.

1069
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: Marti, how weird is it? Have you been following A.

1070
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: Richard's pivot into MMA now he's John Jones is like

1071
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: like go to Al Hayman. Basically it's interesting in that regard. Yeah, wow,

1072
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 1: all right, do we have any other on this photo

1073
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: tourg Lore? Oh my god? What the hell is going on?

1074
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: I'm not here to rip you or your culture, but

1075
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,240
Speaker 1: what is happening here? Okay?

1076
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 2: I have I have four numbers for you? Is that

1077
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 2: the way that said nineteen nineties? That's the nineteen nineties?

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Speaker 3: Come on?

1079
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: Is that your bartzos?

1080
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 4: You're going for the Jerry seinf.

1081
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 2: Look there, no, you it's hard to tell in that photos.

1082
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 2: It's kind of dark, but that's full. That's all from

1083
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 2: the top of the head. It's not a mullet. That

1084
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 2: was like the long hair Grunge nineteen ninety five.

1085
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: You know what, the screams didn't get laid. That's what

1086
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: that screams, you know what I mean? I mean it was.

1087
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 3: Everything about me and that era screams. But that, yeah,

1088
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 3: that was.

1089
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: If only we had a photo of young MOLV chasing

1090
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: Waye chasing chasing the muff around. I actually think we

1091
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: do here, Oh to catch your predator? We called him there. Wow,

1092
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: was that on a big oil tanker in the Arctic Circle?

1093
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: What happened?

1094
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 4: That was actually on the back of a ship in

1095
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 4: Singapore and we were getting ready to go to the

1096
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 4: Antarctic to go chasing after whaling ships. I think I'm

1097
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 4: twenty three there. Yeah, no difference at all, Right, no,

1098
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 4: absolutely no.

1099
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: Difference at all.

1100
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 4: It's amazing how well I've aged.

1101
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: Appreciate the fun guys. It's been great going up and

1102
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: down with you. You guys are not just here to

1103
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: be on my podcast, You're here to work. And the

1104
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: Showtime Boxing podcast with Raskin in Mulvaney is a fantastic

1105
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 1: in depth look at you know, different levels of dad

1106
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,760
Speaker 1: jokes than what my show produces, but also great boxing analysis.

1107
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: Do you guys have anything to plug this week? I mean,

1108
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: what's going on here?

1109
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 4: So are?

1110
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 2: We drop our podcast Every Monday Every Monday morning, nine am.

1111
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 2: Our podcast hits. But this week, of course, we're doing

1112
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,760
Speaker 2: all sorts of extra stuff. We'll be in on radio

1113
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 2: row in the media room interviewing everyone who's in town.

1114
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 2: We'll have it, uh new editions of Showtime Boxing with

1115
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 2: Raskin and Malvaney dropping all week.

1116
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: Drop that ship like it's hot, mold. I think the

1117
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: first fight we covered together was Hopkins Pascal two in Montreal,

1118
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: and I want to say this. You could not have

1119
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: been more gracious and nice, and you could have easily

1120
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: been like, all right, kid, get away from me. But

1121
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 1: you know you didn't. You let me into your life,

1122
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: into your room, to your really, to your wardrobe. No,

1123
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 1: that's sorry, that was the waitress pen. That's sorry about

1124
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Speaker 1: but maulv Yeah, thank you for being a friend.

1125
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 4: That was a great, great fight weekend, right, somebody should

1126
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 4: do a song by that. Thank you for being travel

1127
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:33,439
Speaker 4: up and down that road.

1128
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 3: And we're almost old.

1129
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, your hardest, older than the actresses.

1130
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Speaker 1: Verger, your heart is both true and failing. So congratulations guys.

1131
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: Great to be up and down with you, the great

1132
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: Eric Raskin, Karen mulvaney. I've had a great boxing life

1133
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: with them. Let's enjoy this fight this Saturday with our

1134
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: pants on. Thank you. Great great work right there. All

1135
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: right to transition here, it's a segment two before we do.

1136
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Speaker 1: of my favorites in this journalistic game today. A rare

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Speaker 1: breed somebody that covers both sides of it, boxing and MMA,

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Speaker 1: and he does it very well for business inside of

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas and took his family. Heretic to put his

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Speaker 1: face down and really get after it. And let's welcome

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Speaker 1: it in on this first time to Morning Combat. It's

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Speaker 1: Alan Dawson from the UK with love brother, long time

1200
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Speaker 1: coming here.

1201
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 7: I appreciate you basically, I mean you are talking about

1202
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 7: your media idols with Eric and Kieran and you're one

1203
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 7: of mine. You support since we met in January twenty

1204
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 7: twenty at Seronium McGregor, and you've been supportive ever since.

1205
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 5: I appreciate you having met.

1206
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: I appreciate the work you do, your attitude, all that,

1207
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: and you get to straddle and cover the big topics

1208
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: in both sports across the board. We got some of them

1209
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: and maybe want to talk about but man, I can't

1210
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: stop and need you know, more than just two hours

1211
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 1: on a show to talk about seriously, how excited I

1212
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: am about Tank versus Ryan. One of the pieces I'm

1213
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: working on this week is focused on the business side

1214
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 1: of like how did this deal actually get made? Because

1215
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: as a fan, you want to not care about that,

1216
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: right you want to. You want you want to see

1217
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: Spencon Crawford and not care who's promoted by who are

1218
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: managed by who. But if you're going to follow this

1219
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: game and stay addicted like we are, you got to

1220
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: know the players and the movements there. This is like

1221
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: really rare that this happened to Zone being a part

1222
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: of it but not taking co pay per view right,

1223
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: and some of the agreements that both fighters made regarding

1224
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: the weights in the in the you know, the rehydration

1225
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 1: and all that. But this was two opposite sides of

1226
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: the streets. It was both fighters younger than they probably

1227
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,879
Speaker 1: normally would have. How hard at the end of the day,

1228
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 1: would you describe what this actually was and how this happened?

1229
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: How how unbelievable was it?

1230
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 5: Well, they were linked years back.

1231
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 7: Any time I spoke to like Leonard Allabi and early

1232
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 7: twenty twenty, I'd always be bringing up you know, Ryan,

1233
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 7: And when I was speaking to be Hop or Eric

1234
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 7: Gomez over and Golden Boyd be bringing up Davonte. They

1235
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 7: just seemed like the natural you know, dancing partners. And

1236
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 7: the feedback you know twenty to twenty twenty one was

1237
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 7: always you know that they respected each other, but it

1238
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 7: just didn't seem like the fight was was happening or

1239
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,240
Speaker 7: would happen in the near future. And then something just changed,

1240
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 7: you know, midway into twenty twenty two, where they were

1241
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 7: clearly talking and the time to make that fight might

1242
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 7: not have been twenty twenty, because the time to make

1243
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 7: it is now. And you know, when you speak to

1244
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 7: like Steven Espinoza and Lenardella bi people at PBC, the

1245
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 7: amount of high net worth celebrities and athletes that are

1246
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 7: interested in coming to this event. You know, mccaren Airport

1247
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 7: is going to have like private helicopters, private jets parked

1248
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 7: up like the other days of maybe not to the

1249
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 7: extent of Floyd maywere at his peak, but you know

1250
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 7: you're going to have Odell Beckham and Denzel washing Sto

1251
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 7: and these kind of like you know, these are young guys,

1252
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 7: so to have them not only speak to youth culture

1253
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 7: but also speak to you know, older celebrities and athletes.

1254
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 7: That's I think what is going to turn this event into,

1255
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 7: you know, something that's already pretty much a sold out,

1256
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 7: you know, already in the top ten pushing top five

1257
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 7: for the biggest boxing gates of all time in Las Vegas.

1258
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 7: But also you know, I think it should be a

1259
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 7: home run in the modern era of the of the papers.

1260
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 1: So do you think in your right and like literally

1261
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: we could spend another hour going even deeper of what

1262
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: makes us unique with the fan base. I mean everything,

1263
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: there's everything. My kids. My kids are teenagers and want

1264
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: nothing to do with combats, but they're sending me tiktoks

1265
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: that are involving Ryan and they're like, yeah, we know

1266
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: this guy is so it's got so much of that

1267
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: is that, ultimately, it's rare in boxing when people make

1268
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: people in boxing. There's so many cooks in the kitchen

1269
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: and they're all almost like ruthless outlaws in their own

1270
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: way and a legalized sense. But it's you know, how

1271
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 1: often do they make short term decisions to get as

1272
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: much of the piece of the pie as they can

1273
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 1: and say damn with the long term? And these are

1274
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: people sometimes that we work for and love. That's the game,

1275
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 1: that's the business at times, or at least that can

1276
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 1: become the perception if you get jaded, and it's not

1277
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: hard to get jaded as a boxing fan. I'm a

1278
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: jaded current boxing fan. I just love the drugs in

1279
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: too much. But like the powers that be at some

1280
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: point had to look at themselves and say, we're not

1281
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: going to get in the way of this.

1282
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I also give credit to the first

1283
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 7: and force to the fighters. Ryan spoke really early last

1284
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 7: year saying this was the fight. He was really forcing it.

1285
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 7: He wasn't interested in anyone else, and it seemed like

1286
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:54,959
Speaker 7: as soon as like that was happening, Javonte really wanted

1287
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 7: it as well, So they've forced kind of PBC Golden

1288
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:01,399
Speaker 7: Boy showed that the boxing side, Leonard Delby was working

1289
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 7: out with Eric Gomez in the summer. I know that

1290
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 7: they were talking in Los Angeles face to face quite

1291
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 7: a few meetings. So once the box in Negotia Negota

1292
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 7: negotiation was wrapped up, and then had to go to

1293
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 7: the networks and really like it just became too big

1294
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 7: to fail. There were kind of obstacles that were being

1295
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 7: reported on, but by that point there was so much

1296
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 7: money on the table for everyone in.

1297
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: Money fixes everything, right. That's why Floyd versus Many finally

1298
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 1: gets HUT done. That's why I think we've seen some

1299
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: big heavyweight fights in recent memory of people from opposite networks,

1300
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: you know, ESPN coming together with Showtime or Fox. I mean,

1301
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: we've there's been great strides, but I think for this

1302
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 1: fight to have been made, you needed the powers that

1303
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 1: be to all buy in because there's the potential of

1304
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,760
Speaker 1: so much money in ripple. You obviously needed the fighters.

1305
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: You need Ryan not to be turned off by taking

1306
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: a little bit less money or by you know, the

1307
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 1: weight necessarily the all the contract specifics is what I'm

1308
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: trying to say. But you also, I don't know, it's weird.

1309
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: You just needed everybody to go, this is what is

1310
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: going to be better for the sport. We're all going

1311
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: to better fit from it. Let's do that. So is

1312
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: there a ripple effected potential or is this just that

1313
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 1: rare unicorn of the right fight with the right young

1314
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,879
Speaker 1: stars at the right time and everybody being willing. Does

1315
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 1: this league because I've been I hedged that I ask

1316
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: you a question and cut you off and answer it

1317
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: for you quickly, just to say I do believe at

1318
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: least from the American fighter. And I specifically say American,

1319
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: because I sometimes feel like the fighters in other countries

1320
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: are more willing to just I'll fight anybody at any time.

1321
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: The American star seems more willing than ever before to

1322
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: have that old school persona and air and say yeah,

1323
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 1: let's do it now rather than waiting. I think you

1324
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: needed all of that for this fight to happen. I

1325
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: just hope it becomes the trend. I hope we have

1326
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 1: the eighties spirit all over again. Am I asking too much?

1327
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: You see how the sausage gets made in this game.

1328
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 5: I don't think you're asking too much.

1329
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 7: I feel like boxing was quite slow to come out

1330
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 7: of the pandemic, and we were making you know, cult

1331
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 7: heroes out of Clay Collard at the top brand, you know,

1332
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 7: in their bubble at the MGM Grand whereas the UFC

1333
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 7: just came straight out of the gate and had Fight Island.

1334
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 7: You know that the fight on it became a character

1335
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 7: in and of itself, and that was a huge deal

1336
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 7: at the time. And it feels like boxing now, you know,

1337
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 7: they we had a lot of trade fights, but you know,

1338
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 7: Kayler Plant and David Benavidez last month was just a

1339
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 7: fiery atmosphere and an amazing performance from Benavidez. You know,

1340
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 7: feel like that was you know, fifteen thousand screaming Mexican California,

1341
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 7: Arizona fans paying for kayleb Plants blood in his like

1342
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 7: second adopted town. And then that that was just a

1343
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 7: NORDRV serving into you know, this month with Davis Garcia.

1344
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 7: Next month we've got Haney and Lomachenko, which for me

1345
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 7: is a bit of a passing off the torch with

1346
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 7: the you know, the double gold medal winning Olympian, to

1347
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 7: passing that torch to Hani, the American guy coming up.

1348
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 7: And then maybe we've got Crawford and Spence coming up

1349
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 7: later in the summer. So boxing's on a hell of

1350
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 7: a run when it comes to the big shows. And

1351
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 7: you know, whether Davis and Garcia is the unicorns, it's

1352
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 7: two guys in their early, you know, mid twenties coming together.

1353
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 7: I feel like the ripple effect is keeping on going,

1354
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 7: and boxing at this level is on a run, and

1355
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 7: I hope it's here to stay because you know, when

1356
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 7: boxing gets it right, there's nothing like it.

1357
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: There is nothing like it. I mean, it's right. And

1358
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: then you know Maklumann always does that illusion or whatever

1359
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: the word is about, Like, if there's your favorite four

1360
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: sports breaking out in all corners of the street, you're

1361
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: going to inevitably run at the fight one, at the

1362
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: boxing one. So it's like, when they get it right, man,

1363
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:13,919
Speaker 1: can they get it right? In that regard? I want

1364
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: to ripple effect. I want all of those things ultimately

1365
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: to happen. But do you believe if we want to

1366
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: get super optimistic, optimistic that there's really this much money

1367
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 1: in Saudi Arabia to put on two heavyweight fights on

1368
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: one night and have Fury verses or in South Africa

1369
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: or whoever we hear these rumors, could the heavyweight division,

1370
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: in your eyes, be added into Does any of this real?

1371
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: The recent rumors of there's so much money in one

1372
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: spot and they want to do a final four of

1373
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 1: while they're Joshua, Fury and Usik and make it almost

1374
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 1: a mini tournament. I mean, that's almost that's too good

1375
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: to be true out and that's not real.

1376
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 7: Isn't Well, there's a lot of things in boxing in

1377
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 7: you know, there's a lot of bullshit, so that that

1378
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 7: is going to cost a hell of a lot of money.

1379
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 7: But Saudi Arabia has made these heavyweight fights happen. But

1380
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 7: whether that would involve wider and Ruizes is a.

1381
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: Oh, Ruiz is the fifth? Yeah, okay, so he's the fourth?

1382
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: Who am I who's out of that initial group they

1383
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: talk about it was sick for this or did everybody else?

1384
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 5: Are you sick?

1385
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 7: And well all of the top four kind of you know,

1386
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 7: Joshua is still there thereabouts, but you know, I don't

1387
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 7: think all of that will go on in the same night,

1388
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 7: but yeah, I mean.

1389
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: Or at all let's be fair, we hope, right.

1390
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 7: But yeah, that's that's another like element to this run

1391
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 7: that boxing's on, Like Wilder separating who's the finished guy

1392
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 7: that you thought Robert Hellenius, you know from his senses

1393
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 7: just an awesome you know when wild like you know,

1394
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 7: gets it right. Man, he doesn't just knock people out.

1395
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 7: He's got that Jeremy Stevens quiet. He like fucks them up,

1396
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 7: you know, for a while.

1397
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: The hardest hider at one forty five, we know, we

1398
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 1: know sure in specifics about this fight before we transition

1399
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 1: to mixed martial arts. Luke Thomas, my co host, has

1400
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: made some company. Maybe maybe this is what's really at stake.

1401
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 1: Not a world title, it's a one hundred and thirty

1402
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 1: six pound catchweight bout. Devin Haney is your own disputed champion.

1403
01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,959
Speaker 1: He's got all the belts and the critical respect for sure.

1404
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: But like maybe the winner is the face of boxing.

1405
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: Oscar when I talked to him this week, said, yeah,

1406
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: the whatever the post Canelo era is gonna look like.

1407
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 1: You know, Canelo is still at the end his prime,

1408
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 1: very well in this prime, but you know he's in

1409
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 1: the second chapter. Then this the winner of this is

1410
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: the face of that. What about specifically in this one

1411
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: thirty five to one forty bubble where it's the four

1412
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 1: princesses Karen said, and it's Shaquh Stephenson. It's like the

1413
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 1: biggest conglomerate of young, exciting talent in the sport is

1414
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 1: the winner of this? Ryan Garcia Tank Davis fight almost

1415
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: the power player? Is that fair to say? Because of

1416
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 1: how many eyeballs will be on this and how much

1417
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 1: Tank cells.

1418
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:37,479
Speaker 7: I think Gavonte already is the power player. But yeah,

1419
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 7: I think this fight is bigger than a title because,

1420
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 7: as you were to kind of touch on, the winner

1421
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 7: would be the face of the American side of the sport.

1422
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 7: It'd be grace in the covers of magazines, you know,

1423
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 7: especially if it's Ryan, you know, look how good looking

1424
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 7: he is. But if it's like either guy, they'll be

1425
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 7: on the front cover of video games everything. They can

1426
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 7: really run the spot. I kind of agree with your

1427
01:01:57,840 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 7: caveat what you said about Cainelic because I feel like,

1428
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 7: if it's not the second chapter, I was hoping to

1429
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 7: see more from him. You know, coming back against Golovkin

1430
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 7: and you know, just to real establish the momentum that

1431
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 7: he had previously. But yeah, whoever win's here, particularly particularly

1432
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 7: if it's in style death for sure, the face of

1433
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 7: the American side of boxing. Me personally, I'd want to

1434
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 7: see it quite competitive up until I think it's going

1435
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 7: to be a finish towards the mid to late rounds.

1436
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 7: But you know, providing it's competitive up until then, I

1437
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 7: think we'll see it again. I think they'll run it back.

1438
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 1: When you hear your boy BC say things like I

1439
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: love all these fighters, but Shakur may be the last

1440
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 1: guy standing in the end. Is that is that crazy?

1441
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 3: No?

1442
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 7: No, not at all, Like especially like I feel like

1443
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 7: what you're saying about the Four Kings. People wanted to

1444
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 7: see them fight straight away, but you know, Heney went

1445
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 7: over to Australia and Fort combosas twice. You know, t

1446
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 7: O for Lomachenko. We've got this fight and I was gonna.

1447
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: Fight Josh Taylor. By the ways.

1448
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 7: I love that match up because it's two wildly crazy guys.

1449
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 7: And you know, one of the things I love rooting

1450
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 7: for in boxing and MMA is just chaos. And I

1451
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 7: feel like that fight is going to produce some chaos

1452
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 7: because how could it not.

1453
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, absolutely so so fired up for what the

1454
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 1: future is going to bring. I mean, in a perfect world,

1455
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 1: could the winner of Haini and Limachenko fight either Chakor

1456
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: or the winner of this fight on Saturday, even with

1457
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 1: all of the network issues and hurdles. I hope. I

1458
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 1: want to believe. I want to live in that world.

1459
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 1: Why I believe it? But either way, big big, You know,

1460
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 1: when you make one this big, there's only going to

1461
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 1: be the potential if you do it right. Of big

1462
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 1: spin off business. To close on boxing real quick though,

1463
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: we mentioned Canelo, What do you think his twenty twenty

1464
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 1: three looks like? Because he's going to be John Ryder

1465
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 1: on May six, so we know half of it? Is

1466
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 1: he looking in your eyes? More to rematch Bevall and

1467
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 1: try to you know, add that light heavyweight crown? Or

1468
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 1: can we get Benavidez in the bullpen? Can Ween because

1469
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 1: that dude you you mentioned being in the arena for

1470
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 1: plant versus Benavita's it felt different. It wasn't quite made

1471
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 1: with a level, but it felt different, right, It felt different.

1472
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 7: Felt it felt it was the best atmosphere and energy

1473
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 7: I've experienced at a boxing show since Anthony Joshua and

1474
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 7: not Alexander Usik. But that fight was mainly because we

1475
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 7: were coming out of lockdown in London's it's a very

1476
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 7: carnival party.

1477
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 1: It was that one or two that you were a

1478
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 1: that was the number.

1479
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 7: One in London, the Hot Stadium. So that was just

1480
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 7: a really good energy. But it's more because of the

1481
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 7: freedom that people were feeling masks off and you know,

1482
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 7: bears down the skull. But the energy that was at

1483
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 7: Benavide's Plant was pure boxing. You know, it was all

1484
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 7: about you know, benevite'z. His performance. Caleb Plant had just

1485
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 7: like a other worldly worryability to stand up to that onslaugh.

1486
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 7: I personally think he should have been pulled out at

1487
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 7: some point. Sure I felt redman, might I thought.

1488
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 1: The horror, but like you're almost going to change, Yeah,

1489
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: might change.

1490
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 5: Because that was a beat?

1491
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 1: Did you did? I'm glad you brother? That didn't it

1492
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 1: feel like Caleb Plant was. It was almost like Rocky One,

1493
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 1: the like he was like the outcome didn't matter Rocky One. Ultimately,

1494
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 1: the message I take as an adult is I'm it

1495
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 1: doesn't matter about winning. I'm fighting to show the world

1496
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 1: that I'm not a piece of shit. And that's not

1497
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 1: necessarily what Kyler Plant is saying, but his willingness to

1498
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 1: take that punishment and go the distance, like he that's

1499
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 1: the only way he knows how he has to do

1500
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 1: that to show you who he really is. Whether you

1501
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 1: respect that or that, like.

1502
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a moral victory of sorts.

1503
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, wasn't it. There was like there was like a

1504
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 1: high level like and that can be dangerous and we

1505
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: don't love that.

1506
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, it could be good career changing. I think, you know,

1507
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 7: I don't know how much Benavidez took out of him

1508
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 7: in the in the going forward, but mentioning what you're

1509
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 7: going back to what you're asking about Canelo, I feel like, yeah,

1510
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 7: the likely players once he beats John Ryder in front

1511
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 7: of his home crowd in Mexico, that the player, they're

1512
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 7: more likely players that will see the rematch with bevol

1513
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 7: I don't think it matters too much because I feel

1514
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 7: like Benavidez has so many options, you know, in house

1515
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 7: with PBC in Showtime, I feel like what they're developing

1516
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 7: is like a modern version of what they had at one,

1517
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 7: five four, over the last like five six years, they've

1518
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 7: got kind of like a round robin where they've got

1519
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 7: morel who's fighting on the undercard on Saturday. You've got

1520
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 7: ANDRD and I know that, you know PBC think that,

1521
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 7: you know, out of everyone who deserves and has done

1522
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 7: enough to show that they, you know, warrant a big fight,

1523
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 7: it could be Andrad that maybe gets Benavidez, maybe the

1524
01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 7: later this year.

1525
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 1: But wow, because this is Hues. Yeah, because David Morrele Junior,

1526
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 1: as you said, is in the Core feature on Saturday,

1527
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 1: and he's been outright saying I'm going to dominate this

1528
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 1: guy and show you that I'm ready for Benavidez. Whereas

1529
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 1: once you mentioned what could be next for Benaviez if

1530
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 1: it wasn't Canelo, my first thought is Dremal Charlo or

1531
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 1: him was like, I'll fight any of those guys, and

1532
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 1: he goes. If you think there's bad blood between Plant

1533
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 1: and Benavide's, watch when I get involved. You know, I'm

1534
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 1: like like, come on, brother, let's do it.

1535
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 7: You know, Yeah, there's so many options for for Benavidez.

1536
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 7: He's made himself. I think Dan Rafael had it ripped,

1537
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 7: you know, said it perfectly as the people's champion after

1538
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 7: after what he did there and and and just there

1539
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 7: just a reaction and how much over you know, you

1540
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 7: talk about, like w W E star, how over he

1541
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 7: was with that crowd. So that eventually, when we do

1542
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 7: we will get that, we will get the Canelo fight

1543
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 7: with Benavidez at some point because once, you know, regardless

1544
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 7: of where where that result goes with Bevo, you know,

1545
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 7: there's just too many options on the you know, PBC

1546
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 7: Showtime side of things. I think Canelo, you know, he's

1547
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 7: fought Showtime before, the relationships there, so whether he goes

1548
01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 7: straight into Benavidez maybe at Synker in twenty twenty, in

1549
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:04,919
Speaker 7: twenty twenty four next year, yeah, okay, but yeah, there's

1550
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 7: there's plentiful options for Canelo after. I'm not sure what

1551
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 7: else he would have after a Bevo fight if he

1552
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 7: stays with Matchroom. But yeah, the fight for me is

1553
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 7: ben a Vitez and Canerlo, and I feel like when

1554
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:18,479
Speaker 7: that's made, that will be like this sort of level

1555
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 7: of you know, holy shit, you you need to be

1556
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 7: here for this.

1557
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 1: Well, you needed to be in Las Vegas to continue

1558
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 1: your job and the great work you're doing an insider,

1559
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 1: and you moved your family there and you get to

1560
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 1: be on the front lines for not just boking, but

1561
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 1: obviously you're read at the Ufcapex all the time, you're

1562
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 1: covering the mixed martial arts game on that same level. Well,

1563
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 1: I asked all my friends, broad O, Komodo, anybody who

1564
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 1: moved to Las Vegas, like, how the hell do you

1565
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 1: do that? Because common here sucks, but it's different in

1566
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 1: real life? Can you explain that? Yeah?

1567
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 7: I mean when I had, like, you know, growing up

1568
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 7: in the UK, you're kind of subjected to, like, you know,

1569
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 7: parts of American culture, and the image I always had

1570
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 7: of America wasn't really like you know, thinking of like

1571
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 7: the New York city scape, but it was always the

1572
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 7: American Southwest. When you come here and you're living here,

1573
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 7: no matter what direction you're driving when you're in Vegas,

1574
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 7: whether it's two to six hours northwest east south, the

1575
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 7: terrain just changes this beautiful landscape. And there's a perception

1576
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 7: of Americans outside of America that they don't travel, you know,

1577
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 7: they don't have passports, But when you come here and

1578
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 7: you see, you know, what's here, you can see why.

1579
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1580
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 7: I was, yes, yeah, yeah, I've been to Moab, and

1581
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 7: you know, Canyon Lands is gorgeous here, so it's easy

1582
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 7: to move here, it's easy to live. It's actually colder

1583
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 7: more often than it's hot, which is crazy. Yeah, I'm

1584
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 7: surprised just sitting here and in a in a T

1585
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 7: shirt like with the way the AC is.

1586
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 1: This is an MK golf shirt. Okay, thank you.

1587
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:37,600
Speaker 7: Oh no, I like the merch, but i'd have the

1588
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 7: MK hoodie on. But yeah, Like, the UFC has kept

1589
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 7: me so busy since I moved to January twenty twenty,

1590
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 7: like last year. And if there's one difference between MMA

1591
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 7: and boxing last year is that MMA was so consistent.

1592
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 1: You know.

1593
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 7: The UFC in Las Vegas alone had four pay per

1594
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 7: view shows at the temale but Arena twice a month.

1595
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 7: Every month, they'd have shows at the Apex, you know,

1596
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 7: sometimes even twice a week because of the Contender Series.

1597
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 7: I feel like one of my favorite storylines coming from

1598
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:06,640
Speaker 7: UFC last year was just the sheer amount of like

1599
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 7: young talent coming through the Contender series. I loved seeing

1600
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 7: Bo Nickel, Cameron Simon, and al rose as and then

1601
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 7: seeing their debuts. I was kind surprised where Al Roses

1602
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 7: lost recently, but bon Nickel looks like a beast.

1603
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 1: They've built a factory, Yeah, built a factory system that

1604
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 1: produces willing hammers.

1605
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure.

1606
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:25,639
Speaker 7: And this year I feel like one of my favorite

1607
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 7: fighters that've seen live at the Apex was Aaron Blanchfield.

1608
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:30,759
Speaker 5: What she did, yes andrage blooded?

1609
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1610
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 7: Mate, she's not been in the UFC long, but she's

1611
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 7: come into the game. She's sucked it up just like

1612
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 7: and just set a division of blaze, like, look, we've

1613
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 7: not seen we see it rarely. It reminded me, and

1614
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 7: I said it to her post fight. It reminded me

1615
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 7: of the way co Connor McGregor just came in and

1616
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 7: Israel Adasanya just came in and you know, sooner or

1617
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 7: later she's gonna she's so close to a title shot

1618
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 7: if she's not going to get it already, and yeah,

1619
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 7: she's she's had a wild ride and she's just making

1620
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 7: a name for herself.

1621
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 1: Well, I love the role you play in the combat

1622
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 1: sports journalism game today, be because you're lean heavy on

1623
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 1: being an actual journalist. I mean that you know, you

1624
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 1: go after it. And obviously I have respect for people

1625
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 1: that are creators or people that play a character and

1626
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 1: all that. But Dana White doesn't seem to have a

1627
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 1: lot of respect right now for anybody just ran against

1628
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:16,639
Speaker 1: the SCHMO. He's always ranting against the media. I love

1629
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 1: that you're willing to go after it. You've been written

1630
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 1: heavy on the Daniel Kinahan situation. You take people to

1631
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:24,680
Speaker 1: task and you ask the hard questions. What would you

1632
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 1: say right now? Is the temperature of Dana White publicly

1633
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 1: from the power Slap to the slapping incident to him

1634
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 1: now threatening more medium documentaries about how they were wrong

1635
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 1: and he was right even though the context is never

1636
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 1: quite truthful. Do you think he's long for the game?

1637
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:42,599
Speaker 1: I mean, WW just got acquired by UFC's parent company.

1638
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:46,480
Speaker 1: There's a lot of changes going on. Dana seems distant, uninterested.

1639
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1640
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 7: I feel like he's really interested in Power Slap. I'll

1641
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 7: tell you that, Like who is it?

1642
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 2: That?

1643
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 7: The way that that power Like I went to the

1644
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 7: finale and I was covering it beforehand from you know,

1645
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 7: speaking to new race scientists and ringside physicians, and yeah,

1646
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,680
Speaker 7: the feedback wasn't good. You know, Like the way that

1647
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,600
Speaker 7: the way that we see knockouts in MMA and in boxing,

1648
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 7: it's you know, it's shocking and it's like oh shit moments.

1649
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 7: But the knockouts that you saw that we saw in

1650
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 7: some of these slap fighting events, it's like they have

1651
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 7: this fencing response where the body stiffens and you know,

1652
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 7: and they're doing this but they're completely cold. That's you know,

1653
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:23,719
Speaker 7: what I've been told is a you know, traumatic brain injury.

1654
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 7: So I was going into the finale thinking, you know,

1655
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 7: this is going to be awkward and weird. But I've

1656
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 7: got to say the production was pretty good. There wasn't

1657
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 7: any of those finishes and it was it was, like

1658
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 7: I say, it was actually quite fun.

1659
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 1: Wow, I didn't expect this review. Yeah, I know, it's

1660
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 1: like grip advisor of five stars. Nobody got CTE.

1661
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 7: It was great, But yeah, I don't know how much

1662
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:44,680
Speaker 7: staying power it has. He's definitely got interest in in

1663
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 7: pushing that. I know they've got a second series of

1664
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 7: it that's going to probably go quite quickly, and they're

1665
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 7: putting that in Abu Dhabi. We'll probably see you know,

1666
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:56,640
Speaker 7: more kind of storylines with people we saw from that.

1667
01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 7: You know, he put them with what you're saying about

1668
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 7: the incident of his wife on New Year's Eve, you know,

1669
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 7: he put himself in front of us in the media.

1670
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 7: We're free to ask questions. That came out of the blue.

1671
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 7: Though normally he doesn't attend the post fight apex press conferences.

1672
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 5: It's just the fighter.

1673
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 7: So he came out of the blue and he put

1674
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 7: himself in front of us, you know, and we're free

1675
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 7: to ask questions. But you know, he seemed willing to

1676
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 7: do that rather than being anti putting himself in front

1677
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 7: of the firing line. I thought he handled it fine.

1678
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 1: But you don't get into too many journalistic beefs. I

1679
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 1: don't see the Schmoe ever challenging you to a charity

1680
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 1: grappling match.

1681
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 5: I found that cringe, to be honest.

1682
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, with the reporters, we shouldn't be challenging each other

1683
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 7: to fights, you know what we're playing. You know, should

1684
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 7: just be covering the sport and showcasing the good and

1685
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 7: the bad and the ugly. And there's a hell of

1686
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 7: a lot of all three there is.

1687
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:43,599
Speaker 1: Let's speak about the good quickly. It's been a big

1688
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 1: couple months, like redemption stories late, Leon Edward's breaking through,

1689
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:49,679
Speaker 1: the second straight win over Usman I'll sign you coming

1690
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:52,639
Speaker 1: back and winning the title It's made the powerful palm

1691
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 1: debate in a lot of ways, with what happened with

1692
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 1: Mahachev and Volkanovski facing off in that fight being a

1693
01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 1: flip of the coin, and who do you have one

1694
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:01,679
Speaker 1: or two? Well, Leon Edwards is in the mix, John

1695
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 1: Jones returned, Artis Sonia's there. I'm trying to think of

1696
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 1: my missing anybody who is who at least has a

1697
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 1: claim potentially at the top. How do you map out

1698
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 1: if you do it all, sort of your top three

1699
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 1: or five pounds for a pound oft the moment after

1700
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 1: what we saw in recent months.

1701
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 7: I'm embarrassed to say this because I'd pick I was

1702
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 7: picking Gan to Pete Jones of how Jones was looking

1703
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 7: at the you know, at the tail end of his

1704
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 7: light heavyweight days, the fact that he's been out for

1705
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 7: so many years, and you know, activity inactivity, you can

1706
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 7: be a real killer at the top of the game.

1707
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 7: And yet he just came back and smoked Gainan And

1708
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 7: it's like, you know, considering he was the number one

1709
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 7: for so long and you know, i'guldly the greatest of

1710
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 7: all time, you know, I think, how can you not

1711
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 7: have him as as number one right now? And he's

1712
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 7: just come back and completely murked serial game.

1713
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 1: Oh so you have a number one in the game

1714
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:48,639
Speaker 1: at the moment, John, Yeah, see, I don't think that's wrong.

1715
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 1: I think there's a nice debate in there. But can

1716
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 1: I ask you why that specifically, Trump's either Volkanovski who's

1717
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 1: my number one, or Mahachev who is still getting number

1718
01:13:57,400 --> 01:13:58,599
Speaker 1: one votes across the board.

1719
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 7: Just just because of like how you know what came

1720
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 7: before and just thinking like it was a like the

1721
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 7: pre match Bookernards. It was like, I don't think anyone

1722
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 7: thought that he was going to come in and do

1723
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 7: what he to gan that quickly, and he just seems like,

1724
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 7: you know, after doing that, who can really beat him

1725
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 7: at heavyweight and heavyweight? Isn't like how comfortable does he

1726
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 7: look at heavyweight?

1727
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:19,599
Speaker 5: You know that? How comfortable did he look at light heavyweight?

1728
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 5: It's so hard.

1729
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 7: I think we've been sport for choice when fighters try

1730
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 7: and do this, you know, Champ champ stuff. You know,

1731
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 7: Connor McGregor did it, Dan Cormier did it. But really

1732
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 7: the reality is it's hard to do. Like as a Volkanovsky,

1733
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 7: who's supremely talented beast at februeight, he you know, he

1734
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 7: struggled to do it. I feel like there's a few

1735
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:40,680
Speaker 7: other examples where it's actually more common to not do

1736
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 7: it than it is and for Jones to come up

1737
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 7: a division mates take a claim again as the.

1738
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 5: Goat.

1739
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 7: You know, I just feel that kind of Trump's what

1740
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 7: else is kind of on the landscape. There's a great

1741
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 7: debate to have because it kind of shows the health.

1742
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 5: For sure, we are at the top level MMA.

1743
01:14:57,439 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 1: I felt we were just in that and maybe still

1744
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 1: are in box. But specifically, like a year and a

1745
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 1: half ago, it was like I never remember a time

1746
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 1: whether there was five or six people with a potential

1747
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 1: claim at the top. Right now in MMA's pomp for pound,

1748
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 1: if you care about that stuff, there's literally four or

1749
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 1: five guys who're like, yeah, yeah, I could, Yeah, he's

1750
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 1: probably your palm best. I mean, when Atasignia comes back

1751
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 1: and does what he does, that's how do you keep

1752
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 1: him out of the mix? You don't so Arsnia's future.

1753
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:26,040
Speaker 1: Paeda moves up to two O five, the division that

1754
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 1: he's cleaned out. Israel has some new people. I mean,

1755
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 1: you know, he wants Dricus to duplus cee in South Africa, Dricustriscus.

1756
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 1: What a yeah, if he can get uh, you know,

1757
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 1: if he can get worthy enough fast. But how's that

1758
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 1: Chamayav's in that vision now, do you see? Is it

1759
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 1: more likely that we start on the path to the

1760
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 1: potential hams out versus is he big attraction fight or

1761
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 1: do you think is he goes? You know what I've

1762
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 1: done this, Let's move up to two o five and

1763
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 1: chase history.

1764
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 7: I like all the options. Like with Hamsat Chimming. I've

1765
01:15:56,840 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 7: remember seeing him for the first time on five Island

1766
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 7: and the UFC were pushing it, you know, pushing him

1767
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 7: for the media in the bubble, and he's the only

1768
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 7: guy I think that's comparison comparable actually to Davonte Davis

1769
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 7: in the sense that they're completely different fighters, completely different sports.

1770
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 7: But I've never come across someone who's got such a

1771
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:16,680
Speaker 7: quiet but menacing aura as those two guys. Chim I

1772
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 7: have just got something about him where I remember we

1773
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 7: went to see UAU Warriors show on the Friday, so

1774
01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 7: this was outside the bubble, you know, the bubble was

1775
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 7: different at this time, and Chimayev wasn't fighting. He went

1776
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 7: he came into the vip bit and there was a

1777
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 7: security guy who was just saying, you know, I think

1778
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:36,439
Speaker 7: he was looking for a credential, not knowing it was Chimaev,

1779
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 7: and Chimov was just like, you know.

1780
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 5: You're giving me a lot of shit. I'm gonna smiss you, brother.

1781
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 7: There was nobody else there, there were no cameras, but

1782
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 7: he was still giving this. You know, he was ready

1783
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 7: to throw down with.

1784
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 1: So you're saying he's about that life. I'm shocked. I'm

1785
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 1: really shocked. Yeah.

1786
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, so you know the Fight of the Year he

1787
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 7: had with Gilbert Burns. Yeah, I'm big on chim I

1788
01:16:56,200 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 7: think that would be a great match because to p

1789
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 7: I think that the pre fight narrative would would probably

1790
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 7: be quite grim because of the Yeah, gross.

1791
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 1: That's like Cooney versus Holmes flashback on sort of some

1792
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 1: of the racial lines. Yeah, that's going to be used

1793
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:14,719
Speaker 1: to play up some of the political elements of that. Also, quickly,

1794
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 1: before we get into this Saturday's UFCE Vegas seventy one card,

1795
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:20,680
Speaker 1: we just saw a big win from Max at featherweight.

1796
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 1: Volkanowski's got ya year, which could lead to a lot

1797
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:27,440
Speaker 1: of things and that same regard, do you think Volkanowski

1798
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 1: eventually moves up and chases Mahachev and you know, then

1799
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:34,719
Speaker 1: continues his pound for pounds search in that might open

1800
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:36,719
Speaker 1: the door for Max to get into the title picture again.

1801
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:39,639
Speaker 7: I think so, because Volkanowski showed us enough to show

1802
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 7: that he can do it against Islam, let alone the

1803
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 7: rest of the division. So yeah, I think that would

1804
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:47,679
Speaker 7: be the play for him in the medium to long term.

1805
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 7: And you know, Max is just that hook, you know,

1806
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 7: love them yeah.

1807
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 1: Love them yeah, our Yeah, that's he's got that going

1808
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:58,480
Speaker 1: UFC Vegas seventy one is is that the apex a Saturday? Yeah,

1809
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 1: hell of a heavyweight till in terms of the future

1810
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 1: because John Jones, according to Dana White, they're looking at

1811
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 1: Madison Square Garden November for the steep Ameo Chich fight

1812
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 1: that has a lot of historical elements to it. I'm

1813
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 1: of the belief John Jones stays if he keeps winning,

1814
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 1: and this is just this version of John Jones. I

1815
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 1: think he loves being on top. Luke thinks he's gonna

1816
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 1: go maybe even after Steepe. But the idea of who

1817
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,560
Speaker 1: has next could come out of this fight. Sergey Pavlovitch

1818
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:24,879
Speaker 1: coming in as your plus one forty five underdog against

1819
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 1: the always strong and perennial contender Curtis Blades, who, spite

1820
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 1: multiple chances, still can't get up to that highest rung.

1821
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 1: But he's a minus one seventy betting favorite. We know

1822
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 1: he can wrestle. How good is Pavlovitch though, because what

1823
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 1: we've seen so far screams like really freaking good. Yeah.

1824
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,559
Speaker 7: I mean, he's like, like he can bang. What he

1825
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 7: was doing to tie tow of us, it looked like

1826
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 7: two of us who had been in a fight with

1827
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 7: a cordless heads trimmer that was only like a forty

1828
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 7: five second.

1829
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 1: TKO one Edward scissorhands.

1830
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, so yeah, I mean, like his just crisp,

1831
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 7: mid range sort of striking is it's just merciless the

1832
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 7: way the way he comes at you. And it's a

1833
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 7: real like nice style matchup because Curtis Blades is just

1834
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 7: ferocious with like his the way he can just attack

1835
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 7: the takedown against no matter which opponent it's been from,

1836
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 7: you know, years of opponents. That's the only way I

1837
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 7: think he can.

1838
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 1: And he can strike, but he does get in trouble

1839
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:25,719
Speaker 1: against better strikers hanging in the pocket too long. Pavlovitch

1840
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:27,640
Speaker 1: has got a scary long reach too. It isn't like

1841
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:28,720
Speaker 1: John Jones level reach.

1842
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, ridiculous, like he will want to stay away from

1843
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 7: from the stand up game. I actually am surprised, says

1844
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 7: the underdog. I quite like him in this fight.

1845
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, he certainly feels like he's been coming on of late.

1846
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 1: Sergey Speedback had a big win as well in this

1847
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 1: larger picture, But along with Tom Aspinall, who we want

1848
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 1: to see bounce back from injury? I feel like it

1849
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:50,639
Speaker 1: is Pavlovitch and Aspinall that gives me the who might

1850
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 1: have next threat? It was Cyril gone for a long

1851
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:56,680
Speaker 1: time and that seems to have been not solved. But

1852
01:19:57,320 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 1: like Anthony Joshua, he's gonna go back to the drawing

1853
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:01,680
Speaker 1: board and the team here and figure something out in

1854
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 1: that regard of what's the best style, what does he

1855
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 1: need to work on? But he's still lingering how much

1856
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:10,720
Speaker 1: does this Aspinall hype slowed down by the injury? In

1857
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:12,479
Speaker 1: your eyes? Not high but like potential, you know, the.

1858
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's such a what have you done for me lately? Sport?

1859
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 7: Both boxing MMA, But yeah, I mean maybe it's the

1860
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:20,960
Speaker 7: UK link. I like Aspino. I think like he's shown

1861
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 7: a lot with his hands. You can go a long

1862
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 7: way in the heavyweight division in the UFC, just with

1863
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 7: with striking and knock out ability. But you know he's

1864
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:31,479
Speaker 7: he's got a decent underrated ground game and he's one

1865
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:34,680
Speaker 7: on the mat in the UFC. So you know, when

1866
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:36,479
Speaker 7: he comes back, I think he's still in the mix.

1867
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 7: But like when you're saying who's next, Mirechich Pavlovich, if

1868
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 7: he wins against Blades, you know Aspino. Once he returns

1869
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 7: and gets another win, maybe he'll be in the line

1870
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:44,800
Speaker 7: after that, all.

1871
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 1: Right with Chill Sun And was on our podcast here

1872
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 1: on Room Service Diaries one time, very highly rated and

1873
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 1: click done interview. You can check that out in the files,

1874
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 1: along with currently our John Jones chat. And by the way,

1875
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 1: we got two more in the bullpen coming on RSD.

1876
01:20:57,600 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 1: They're great. You can love those two. But told us

1877
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:02,880
Speaker 1: at that point, this is about a year ago. When

1878
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 1: John comes to the heavyweight division, the toughest match up

1879
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 1: for him is Curtis Blades. If Curtis Blades wins against

1880
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:11,839
Speaker 1: Sergey Pavlovitch, which is no giving, but he's the betting favorite.

1881
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 1: How much of a threat do you think he is

1882
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 1: to this new John.

1883
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 7: John's Well, how much better would Gan would have would

1884
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 7: have done if he was better, you know with the wrestling.

1885
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot better than losing in the first forty seconds, Yeah,

1886
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 1: a lot better.

1887
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:26,559
Speaker 7: Waits can really offer something that you know, Gan just

1888
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 7: could couldn't. Yeah, I really like it.

1889
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:29,560
Speaker 5: You know that.

1890
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 7: I'm kind of with Luke though, I'm not sure how

1891
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 7: long John Jones will stay around.

1892
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 1: I feel like, how long are they going to keep

1893
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:36,640
Speaker 1: this on me? That's why I want to know here

1894
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 1: this guy is sarking.

1895
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:40,679
Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel like, you know, Jones is just coming

1896
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 7: back to kind of re reinforce why he's the goat

1897
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:46,680
Speaker 7: and if he once he beats, if he beats me

1898
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:49,320
Speaker 7: a chich, I feel like he'll think that that chapter's

1899
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 7: kind of closed and maybe he'll see what happens with

1900
01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:54,240
Speaker 7: the landscape in the next you know, one to two years.

1901
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 7: But in that time, you know, we've got a few

1902
01:21:57,360 --> 01:22:01,120
Speaker 7: decent challenges coming up to to threat and his rule.

1903
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:04,400
Speaker 1: Crowded combat schedule this weekend. This is not the deepest

1904
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 1: UFC card. There's always a couple, you know, items on

1905
01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 1: the menu when you dig down. I mean, I don't

1906
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:12,559
Speaker 1: hate seeing Kamara Usman's brother after winning his ultimate Fighter

1907
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 1: season Muhammad Usman, the big heavyweight coming back as the

1908
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:17,919
Speaker 1: favorite against Junior Tough for any fights on this undercard

1909
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:19,679
Speaker 1: that you have has your eye twinkling.

1910
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I've had a few chats with backward

1911
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 7: Bobby Green. I think he's really fun and you know,

1912
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:28,240
Speaker 7: good striker. He's a forty four fight veteran, fun personality.

1913
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 7: He's looking to rebound from back to back defeats, and

1914
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Speaker 7: he's in with Jad Gordon, who's coming off a controversial

1915
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Speaker 7: l to Paddy Pimblet. You know, some people thought that

1916
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 7: that could have gone you know, his favorite rather than Paddy's.

1917
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Speaker 7: So I feel like, whoever wins there, that's the fight

1918
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Speaker 7: to make. Because if it's Bobby Green and Paddy Pimblet,

1919
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 7: you've got two real gift of the gab to dude,

1920
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 7: the build up would be insane.

1921
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Speaker 1: Dude, I've never even thought of that until now. You're right.

1922
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 1: Pimblet needs Green to be that guy that that bring

1923
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 1: you know, brings out the eye of the tiger in him,

1924
01:22:57,120 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 1: but really gets that talk cycle.

1925
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, that that promotion would be box office in and

1926
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 7: of itself. And if Gordon wins, then you know that

1927
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 7: pre fight narrative will be like, you know, I should

1928
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 7: have had the w the first time round. So I

1929
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:09,560
Speaker 7: like that fight because of what could come after it.

1930
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 7: And I really feel like the place should be whoever

1931
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:13,640
Speaker 7: wins that that should be Paddy Pimblet's fight, wherever they

1932
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:15,840
Speaker 7: have that in. You know, Paddy Pimblet could do well

1933
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 7: in New York over here in Vegas he's thought before.

1934
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 7: Or of course the I two Arena in London.

1935
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 1: Absolutely Brat Tavaris Bruno Silva in that co tilt there

1936
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:28,800
Speaker 1: in the middleweight division. Busy MMA Weekend also takes us

1937
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 1: to Hawaii this weekend and only on showtime. It's Belitar

1938
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 1: two ninety four and two ninety five Friday night and

1939
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:39,680
Speaker 1: Saturday night and some tasty offerings across the board on

1940
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 1: both cards. I love the way the crowd pops there.

1941
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:45,559
Speaker 1: I hope one day UFC also goes to Hawaii, although

1942
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 1: I think even more recently Dana was like, yeah, we tried,

1943
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 1: but they don't make it easy and it's not happening.

1944
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 1: The Saturday night's special there to ninety five for Bellator

1945
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 1: on showtime is the one million dollar bandam Weight World

1946
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 1: Grand Prix. Finale, the interim title at stake. Here we

1947
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 1: know the full champion, Sergio Pettis, excuse me, is gonna

1948
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 1: bounce back from injury and take on a Patricia not

1949
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 1: PATRICKI people his brother and Patricio Pipple in the attempt

1950
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 1: to become the first major or second or what I

1951
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:17,600
Speaker 1: know people are digging in the history books. But the

1952
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 1: first super Elite three division champion. But Raffion Stats and

1953
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:24,480
Speaker 1: Pachi Mix Allen is a hell of a tournament finale.

1954
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:27,280
Speaker 1: When you talk about two red hot motor vehicles, let

1955
01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 1: me tell you the odds, which is a little surprising

1956
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 1: to me. They're close minus one thirty five for your

1957
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:37,600
Speaker 1: favorite Raffion Stats fresh off the control of Danny Cibatello

1958
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:40,679
Speaker 1: to get that decision when against the super red hot

1959
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 1: atomic Patchie Mix plus one fifteen. Should we go to

1960
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:46,200
Speaker 1: the books. I mean it's a great fight. Either man

1961
01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:48,720
Speaker 1: can win. Is that surprising all the line to you?

1962
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 7: I mean, I feel like Mix has been in that

1963
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:53,559
Speaker 7: position before, and I feel like he keeps on proving

1964
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 7: people wrong. Like the run he's been on is great.

1965
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 7: I remember when he beat James Gallagher, and that in

1966
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 7: Europe was seen as a bit of an upset James

1967
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:03,559
Speaker 7: Kallagher was always seen as, like more so than Connor McGregor,

1968
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 7: the proper archetype student of John Cavanaugh at the straight

1969
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 7: last gym with his jiu jitsu game, you know, and

1970
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 7: since then, Mix keeps on, Yeah, this is probably a

1971
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 7: really niche and probably wrong reference.

1972
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 5: But you might appreciate it.

1973
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 7: But it kind of he kind of his run kind

1974
01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 7: of reminds me of andre Ward in the Super six.

1975
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 7: Andre Ward was the outside, you know, he wasn't even

1976
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 7: thought of in this before in the Super six, and

1977
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:27,919
Speaker 7: he went on to beat the tournament favorite Alfat Abraham

1978
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 7: went on to win the entire thing. Mix has gone

1979
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 7: on to beat the pre tournament favorite Horagucci in this

1980
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 7: beltal competition, and yeah, I fancy him. I'm surprised that

1981
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:38,680
Speaker 7: those odds, you know, I'm surprised that a few of

1982
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 7: the odds this weekend. But yeah, I just feel like

1983
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 7: he's he's over. He keeps on overcoming that underdog status.

1984
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 5: And it's not.

1985
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:47,639
Speaker 1: Just the submissions. It's not just the all the fight's over.

1986
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 1: He's been Like the way he took out Margo Metof,

1987
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:52,679
Speaker 1: I mean it was nasty. Man joked him. To sleep.

1988
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 1: It was just like, damn Patchie Mix has put it together.

1989
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 1: You know he fancies Tatiana Suarroz in the off season.

1990
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, yeah like this.

1991
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think this is really worthy of the million

1992
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 7: dollar check because this is really a showcase of two

1993
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 7: of the best, two of the top fifteen you know

1994
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 7: bandsmite fights as well.

1995
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:13,600
Speaker 5: They were in the UFC. I feel like they'd be

1996
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 5: in the rankings.

1997
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:16,720
Speaker 1: Raffaon Stotts felt like the best kept secret in this

1998
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:19,400
Speaker 1: weight class right before this tournament started and he got

1999
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:22,120
Speaker 1: you know that his victory over Mago mad Maga metof

2000
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 1: was a was a big eye opener. And then what

2001
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 1: he's done in this tournament now and he wears that

2002
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 1: MK Bomber jacket with pride. Yeah, I saw you, Rafeon Stotts.

2003
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:30,800
Speaker 1: It was some like I whish I had the video. Ordy,

2004
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 1: there was some basketball. They brought him out at halftime

2005
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:34,880
Speaker 1: of a game. I think it was an NBA game

2006
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:36,680
Speaker 1: and he had to you know, he shot a three

2007
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:38,679
Speaker 1: and made it wearing the MK Bomber jacket.

2008
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 5: If you got some hair, I.

2009
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 1: Mean, can we put Allen Dawson in some NK clothing?

2010
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 1: Mikey Mikey, the golf courses in Vegas are great. I

2011
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:46,919
Speaker 1: need want to Yeah, you're gonna sweating like Kevin Ioliah

2012
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 1: the you gotta be careful rafaon Statts is though coming

2013
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 1: on as much as Pati mix is feels inevitable. He's

2014
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:56,680
Speaker 1: big for this weight class. If he can take the

2015
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:58,679
Speaker 1: fight to the ground normally he has success. How much

2016
01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 1: do you think Statts is strong wrestling background, which he

2017
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 1: neutralized mogel metof with that wrestling, can he stay out

2018
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:06,560
Speaker 1: of that submission trouble zone?

2019
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 7: I don't know, As you said that, I think Mix

2020
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 7: is a bit of a monster, and yeah, I think

2021
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 7: I feel like the win over Sabatello, for it was

2022
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:15,720
Speaker 7: a bit unexciting, but I feel like Mix can kind

2023
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 7: of offer more. And yeah, I like him hearing what

2024
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 7: is in the upset.

2025
01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:24,439
Speaker 1: Yeah. The Pineapple Princess, the former Belatore Flyway champion Alima

2026
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 1: Lee McFarlane, is in the co feature on Saturday Nights

2027
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 1: Belatore two ninety five card. She asked for this fight

2028
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 1: against Conna Watt Nabby. I think she's threatening to retire.

2029
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 1: I think, I mean she's close right now, but she

2030
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 1: always draws a big crowd. She'll be the betting underdog

2031
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:39,519
Speaker 1: plus one fifteen McFarland against Wattonnabby minus one thirty five.

2032
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:42,599
Speaker 1: Aaron Pico back on the same night, Saturday Night, he'll

2033
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:45,840
Speaker 1: be a minus seven to twenty betting favorite against James

2034
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:49,000
Speaker 1: Gonzalez plus five twenty. But allan for Pico, it's more

2035
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:52,120
Speaker 1: about let's bounce back from the injury against Jeremy Kennedy.

2036
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 1: It didn't go his way. I hope he doesn't have

2037
01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:56,240
Speaker 1: TJ Dillashaw shoulder after they tried to jam that thing

2038
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 1: back in. How should we have fears? The oddsmakers don't

2039
01:27:58,800 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 1: have the fear that is.

2040
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:02,439
Speaker 7: You brought up Pico because I mean, like you, I've

2041
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 7: been boxing first, coming into combat sports media, and I

2042
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 7: started covering MMA after boxing around twenty seventeen, and my

2043
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 7: first show that I covered was a Bellator event in London,

2044
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 7: and I remember Scott Coca, you know, we're talking about

2045
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:16,840
Speaker 7: guys to keep an eye, and he was so high

2046
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 7: on Aaron Pico. So I feel like I've really seen,

2047
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 7: you know, the start of Pico's career, and you know,

2048
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 7: I was hearing so much about his wrestling background, the

2049
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 7: fact that he was brought in Freddie Roach at the

2050
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 7: World Card Gym for his boxing game, and.

2051
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 1: There were rumors coming out of Roaches Gym, And I've

2052
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:33,320
Speaker 1: got Piko to confirm it that when he sparred Miguel

2053
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 1: Coto like he was you know, he didn't get handled,

2054
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 1: he had moments like he was in that.

2055
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:39,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, Jesus, I mean I believe it. There's there's like

2056
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:41,200
Speaker 7: he went on to lose his debut. I think he

2057
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 7: went up to four and one and then got four

2058
01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:46,719
Speaker 7: two for three. So it's like the thing with Peko.

2059
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 7: There was so much hype behind him that it was

2060
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:50,680
Speaker 7: like a j McKee has actually gone on to have

2061
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 7: the career that people probably thought Pico might have rue.

2062
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:55,840
Speaker 1: But would you believe though that Pico seemed to be

2063
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:57,680
Speaker 1: if he had beaten Kennedy and Dinner get hurt, they

2064
01:28:57,720 --> 01:28:59,240
Speaker 1: were ready to finally see what he's got at the

2065
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:00,719
Speaker 1: title level. Oh yeah, right there.

2066
01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 7: I would not like as soon as I see Pico

2067
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:05,920
Speaker 7: and a Bellotle card, I'm always gonna watch him be

2068
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 7: so invested in his career because I feel like, you know,

2069
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:10,600
Speaker 7: no matter how much momentum he gets this time or

2070
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:12,679
Speaker 7: you know, if he you know, suffers a loss before

2071
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:14,120
Speaker 7: he gets to a title shot. I feel like at

2072
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:15,880
Speaker 7: some point he's always going to put all of those

2073
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:18,000
Speaker 7: skills together and come pick.

2074
01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 1: Like a reality show following and covering his career, right, Yeah,

2075
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 1: like he's not trying to make it that, right, but

2076
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:24,639
Speaker 1: it feels like that. And did you see the size

2077
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 1: of his horse's Manitalia? Did you see that? I did

2078
01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 1: not know he when he moved down to Jackson Wink.

2079
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 1: He got a ranch and he has horses and he

2080
01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 1: you know, he's got like, uh, what's he's like the

2081
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:37,439
Speaker 1: he picked out horse sa Freddy over there. All right,

2082
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:39,240
Speaker 1: let's get out of that topic and just remind you

2083
01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:41,759
Speaker 1: also on that Saturday card, a good one. Mad's Burnell

2084
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 1: against Justin Gonzalz. That should be fun, yetsi. Madero's back

2085
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:47,679
Speaker 1: against Charlie Leary Kai Kamaka the third with the great

2086
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:50,240
Speaker 1: chess tatses here. But dude, people sleeping on how good

2087
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 1: this fight is? Ray Borg Kyoji Horror Gucci Saturday's belat

2088
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:55,880
Speaker 1: or two ninety five card Borg plus one ninety five

2089
01:29:56,439 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 1: his post UFC run, He's put some wins together, Horror

2090
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 1: Gucci minus two thirty favorite in this one. He was

2091
01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:03,320
Speaker 1: our favorite for that tournament after what he did against

2092
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:07,880
Speaker 1: Sergio Pettis until he got knocked out. So I feel

2093
01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 1: like now people are sleeping on a horror Gucci. He

2094
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:11,760
Speaker 1: got knocked out of the tournament by Mix. It's like,

2095
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:13,519
Speaker 1: can he make another run here? There should be a

2096
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 1: good test man.

2097
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:15,559
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, And I like this.

2098
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:18,160
Speaker 7: I feel like it's kind of significant tonight that Hawaii's

2099
01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:20,960
Speaker 7: got this event because they actually had a combat sports

2100
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:23,400
Speaker 7: tragedy recently of the passing of Victoria Lee, and it

2101
01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:24,960
Speaker 7: feels like, you know, now a few months later, we've

2102
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:27,160
Speaker 7: got like a real celebration of combat sports on the

2103
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:29,120
Speaker 7: island and for the state, for the people there to

2104
01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:31,600
Speaker 7: come together and you know and celebrate the sport, you know,

2105
01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:33,600
Speaker 7: not just for one night, but for two. Yeah, and

2106
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:35,960
Speaker 7: there's over the course of those two nights, there's there's

2107
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:37,880
Speaker 7: a lot going on, and I'm looking forward to it.

2108
01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2109
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:40,519
Speaker 1: Also Bobbie King, Hawaii Native on that night, and then

2110
01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:42,240
Speaker 1: the Friday card of course, when the main event, we're

2111
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:45,160
Speaker 1: gonna get a title defense at one twenty five. On

2112
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:48,439
Speaker 1: the women's side, Liz Carmouch, who had the weird win

2113
01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:51,800
Speaker 1: for the title, comes back against Juliana Velaskaz and the

2114
01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 1: rematch wins that has her breakthrough moment confirmed. Now she's

2115
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 1: taken on Deiana Bennett plus three sixty. This has been

2116
01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:01,559
Speaker 1: a revelation for Gorilla car Moose. You know, she for

2117
01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 1: a lot of us got to know her for the

2118
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 1: first time if we hadn't followed her early early run

2119
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:07,599
Speaker 1: as a pioneer going through Strike Force. When she did

2120
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 1: meet Rousey in the first UFC Women's title fight, I

2121
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:13,360
Speaker 1: was happy to see it all come together. I feel

2122
01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 1: like this is another matchup she could and should win

2123
01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 1: here against.

2124
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 5: The Oh yeah, I've got her as well.

2125
01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:18,799
Speaker 7: She's one of her fights she's ever had at belleto

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Speaker 7: and it feels like she's Yeah, she's been around for

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Speaker 7: so long and now it's all coming together for her.

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Speaker 7: The wind is blowing in her direction heading into this

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Speaker 7: second fight with Bennett, and yeah, she said so much

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Speaker 7: success in her Belletle career as a champion. I feel

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Speaker 7: like she's, you know, no matter where the fight goes,

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Speaker 7: I feel like she's the superior athlete.

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Speaker 1: Well, she's got the ground game, we know, but when

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Speaker 1: she digs into the striking and goes after we've seen

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Speaker 1: her have really bad, boring fights. A Sheefchenko title rematch

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Speaker 1: should be wiped from the memory, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: But when she sits down on it and goes after it,

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Speaker 1: she's still aggressive. Tim Johnson inside almost a heavyweight clash

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Speaker 1: Friday that should produce fireworks. Arlen and Blenco. People sleep

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Speaker 1: on her. She makes fun fights there and that Women's

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Speaker 1: FA the Way division. She'll be back against Sarah McMahon.

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Speaker 1: That should be actually a decent till all together. Danny Sabateello,

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Speaker 1: a plus a minus four ninety betting favorite, in her

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Speaker 1: first fight since losing to Stats, is going to take

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Speaker 1: on Marcus Breno. Danny Sabatello, Man, it's hard not to

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Speaker 1: talk about him every time you see him. I think

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Speaker 1: he did a great job. Whether he is it a

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Speaker 1: poor man's Colby Covington bid, it's something, it's pro wrestling.

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Speaker 1: There's something going on there. He couldn't beat Stats, but

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Speaker 1: they resigned him. I mean, how bright is the ceiling here?

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Speaker 1: He can talk his way into anything, it seems, but

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Speaker 1: can he really fight? In your eyes?

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Speaker 7: I think it's uh yeah, I think he's It's the

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01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:35,360
Speaker 7: same situation with her. Gucci coming out the competition, but still,

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Speaker 7: you know, being being on the on the show in

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01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:39,840
Speaker 7: the in these two events, and yeah, I mean when

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Speaker 7: I see him, I kind of want to see what

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01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:42,840
Speaker 7: he's got to say. I know you've had him on

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Speaker 7: the show before.

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Speaker 1: And obviously he can wrestle, but for as much junk

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Speaker 1: as he talks, he does have a style that's just

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Speaker 1: rag doll wrestling, rinse repeat that same way. I wonder

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Speaker 1: if there's time and he can put the striking together

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Speaker 1: on this level to live up. Because if you've got

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Speaker 1: that gimmick and you believe it and you stand in

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01:32:57,280 --> 01:32:59,240
Speaker 1: it and you die your hair like you're you know,

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01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:01,960
Speaker 1: running this hair ritories in the mid South and the

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Speaker 1: mid eighties there, it's an attractive package. Just some cringe

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Speaker 1: elements to what he does in his art. Twenty dabbles

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Speaker 1: just the same. But Friday and Saturday night bela tour

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Speaker 1: to ninety four and to ninety five only on showtime

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Speaker 1: would a loaded fight weekend we have in front of us.

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Speaker 1: Ellen Dawston from Business Inside Man, I could just talk

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Speaker 1: up and down the road. Do you have podcasts? What

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Speaker 1: do you do in these days? Where can people you

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01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:27,639
Speaker 1: know get in deeper on your product.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we've so I've already spoken to a few people

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Speaker 7: who've involved in this show. So I'll be having stuff

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Speaker 7: coming out on inside on business inside of this week. Also,

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Speaker 7: I'm teaming up with the guys that Fight Hype and

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Speaker 7: we're going to do it, be doing a few live

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Speaker 7: shows nice maybe on Thursday, and then another one post

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Speaker 7: fight as well.

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Speaker 1: That's it. I mean, you've dug You've dug right in

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Speaker 1: and gone after it. I say it, and I say

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Speaker 1: it again. Your work on Daniel Kinahan has been fair

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Speaker 1: aggressive important. No one's like knocking on your door at.

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Speaker 5: Night though, right not in Vegas.

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Speaker 1: Not in Vegas. There's enough of that called either. Here's

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Speaker 1: what's weird, though, that Kinahan thing got to the level

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Speaker 1: where the Furies can't fight in the States right now,

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Speaker 1: and there's travel implications put in. Do we get there

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Speaker 1: with some of the stuff that gets Luke Thomas really pissed,

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Speaker 1: which is when he sees elite championship level fighters aligning

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Speaker 1: themselves in photos with dictators from other countries. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about Kadirov in Chechena over there in that area. Is

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Speaker 1: that going to get to the Kinahan level? Should it

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Speaker 1: be do you have fears when you see these guys all,

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Speaker 1: you know, showing up at the kids' birthday party and

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Speaker 1: all that.

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Speaker 7: I think it's one thing when it's you know, like

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Speaker 7: the Dakistan chechenin fighters doing it exercise.

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Speaker 5: You don't know.

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Speaker 7: How the situation behind it that they, you know, the

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Speaker 7: feel they need to do that.

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Speaker 5: It's one.

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Speaker 7: It's it's different when it's American fighters going over yeah,

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Speaker 7: to take those photos. And that's when I feel it's when,

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Speaker 7: you know, Luke Thomas and Kareem Sadan have got a

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Speaker 7: point about the sportswashing element of it. The photos of

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Speaker 7: Daniel Kinahan that have died down completely. You know, Daniel

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Speaker 7: Darren Till posted one with him. Tyson Fury is seen

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Speaker 7: with him frequently, Sonny Edwards as well, since the US

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Speaker 7: Treasury sanctioned him in February last year, and then the

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Speaker 7: following day there was a fifteen million dollar bounty put

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Speaker 7: on the heads of Kinahan, Christy Kinahan with Junior, which

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Speaker 7: is his brother, and Christy Kinyan Senior, which is his father,

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Speaker 7: who used to allegedly run this billion dollar cartel.

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Speaker 1: It's all legendly, yeah.

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Speaker 7: But fifteen million dollars is a significant amount from the

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Speaker 7: US Treasury because Osama bin Laden had a twenty five

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Speaker 7: million dollar bounty on its head. So that's kind of

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Speaker 7: how serious the US has taken it. But yeah, since then,

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Speaker 7: it's all kind of died down. There's like rumblings that

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Speaker 7: you know, Conahan's still kind of you know, has his

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Speaker 7: say in a few things. And when you signed so

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Speaker 7: many fighters, and when you've been around so many fighters

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Speaker 7: in European and British boxing, you know it's you know,

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Speaker 7: those relationships are probably still going to linger. So I

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Speaker 7: always remember one thing a source told me that was,

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Speaker 7: you know, knew how he operated in boxing, and Kinahan's

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Speaker 7: not the sort of person that you end a relationship with.

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Speaker 7: He's the sort of person who ends a relationship with

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Speaker 7: you said that the ked in that relationship.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been those relationships with women and it was

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Speaker 1: it wasn't them, it was me. Apparently, all right, there

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Speaker 1: we go. Hey, great show Today special thanks to Karen mulvaney,

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Speaker 1: Eric Raskin of the Showtime Boxing podcast. Lou Thomas on vacation.

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Speaker 1: I think he's back next week. I hope he's a

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Speaker 1: great guy. We love him here. But Alan Dawson thank

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Speaker 1: you for joining us on the second half. We'll have

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Speaker 1: plenty more special guests this week. Friday Live Morning Combat

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Speaker 1: eleven am Eastern on the YouTube from right here the

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Speaker 1: Blue Wires Studios, inside the Win, and obviously Thursday's press

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Speaker 1: conference and Friday's way in for all things Davante Davis,

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Speaker 1: Tank Deervonte, Tank Davis against King Ryan Garcia. I will

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Speaker 1: be part of that panel. Aeril Hawani Kabdo my co host.

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Speaker 1: We're also going to be calling Saturday's fights on Showtime

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Speaker 1: pay per view countdown leading into the start of this

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Speaker 1: massive pay per view from the Team Mobile arena. Can't wait.

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Speaker 1: There is a fight that crosses over even to you

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Speaker 1: MMA fans, Tank versus Ryan, and this is the big one.

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Speaker 1: Ellen Dawston, thank you so much kindly for getting up

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Speaker 1: early and joining us here. It's been a blast, So

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Speaker 1: Mikey Moreanwhile, our producer with the mostest and the great

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Speaker 1: folks here at the Blue Wires Studios. This has been

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Speaker 1: Morning Combat. Enjoy the rest of the week, you know,

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Speaker 1: loyal host. That's what we normally talk about. In the end,

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Speaker 1: we out. Yeah, thank you,