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Speaker 1: Hello, gorgeous, welcome back to give them La Lot podcast.

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Speaker 1: I am a little over a week post op, and

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Speaker 1: they're feeling myself.

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Speaker 2: How is your body feeling? Are you sore?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 3: They did a lot of work on the left boob right, like.

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Speaker 1: Put some sort of mesh hammock in, and apparently my

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Speaker 1: implant had like fallen super far over so they did

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Speaker 1: a lot of reconstruction over there on like the inside

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Speaker 1: of the booby, and the ear was the easiest. Everyone

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Speaker 1: kept telling me the ear is going to be so painful.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the most excruciating surgeries, like cosmetic surgeries

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Speaker 1: you can have.

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Speaker 3: And it's been a breeze, so thank you.

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Speaker 1: But by the way, the boobs have been a breeze too,

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Speaker 1: and they look incredible, So thank you to doctor Laky

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Speaker 1: and doctor Daniel Poor because I feel like a hot

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Speaker 1: motherfucker people thought.

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Speaker 2: I think people enjoyed the video of you right out

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Speaker 2: of anesthetia. I sure enjoyed it.

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Speaker 3: I love that you did that.

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Speaker 1: And what's so funny is that I was still thinking about,

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Speaker 1: like I went into surgery having these concerns. Yeah, Like

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Speaker 1: I was so concerned I was gonna fart. Doctor Lakey

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Speaker 1: and doctor Daniel po are very hot, you know, like

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Speaker 1: they're super hot. Yeah, and I was like, I can't

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Speaker 1: rip ass in front of in front of the you know,

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Speaker 1: like I just can't. So I was very concerned about that.

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Speaker 1: In the second I was like coherent.

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Speaker 3: I don't remember.

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Speaker 1: Anything that I said, but it was funny to see

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Speaker 1: that I was still concerned about those things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I got consent from that. Like the day before,

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Speaker 2: I think Lala mentioned. Lala mentioned it would be funny

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Speaker 2: to take a video on the day a while ago. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and then I would have to record it, yes, exactly.

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Speaker 2: And then I was like, tomorrow, can I no matter what,

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Speaker 2: can I record when I walk in and you went,

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Speaker 2: you have to?

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Speaker 1: The thing is is yes, record it. If it was mortifying,

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Speaker 1: I don't need to share it. Yeah, but it was

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Speaker 1: amazing if I put on my page, Oh, it's great.

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Speaker 1: So many people were supportive of my decision. It's still

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Speaker 1: so crazy to me when people say you were so

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Speaker 1: beautiful natural, I'm like, my tits have always been fake.

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Speaker 1: What the fuck are you talking about?

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Speaker 2: When was your first When did you first get them done?

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Speaker 3: Twenty? Oh? Yeah, yeah, I was due.

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Speaker 1: I was due for an upgrade, and then with Ocean,

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Speaker 1: they were just like sad, little like half inflated water

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Speaker 1: ballooons right like neer. So yeah, I got them done.

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Speaker 1: And I also there was one person that was like,

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Speaker 1: boys don't like big boobs. I was like, I didn't

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Speaker 1: fucking do this for boys.

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Speaker 2: Who asked the boys' opinion?

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Speaker 3: Wrong audience?

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Speaker 2: Yeah he saw that you said a wrong audience? Who like,

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Speaker 2: who cares?

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Speaker 3: Speaking of boys?

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Speaker 1: So there was one hot guy that we were talking

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Speaker 1: about that I met on tour, right, yes, So he

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Speaker 1: like sent me a couple of dick pics and I like,

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Speaker 1: let it slide. I didn't acknowledge them. I just like

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Speaker 1: pretended like it didn't happen. He didn't acknowledge them either,

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Speaker 1: talk talk, talk whatever. A few nights ago, I he

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Speaker 1: you know, I wake up the next morning and he

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Speaker 1: has sent me another one, a third one, A.

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Speaker 3: Third dick pick.

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Speaker 2: My god.

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Speaker 1: But what he said following the dick pick warranted an

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Speaker 1: immediate block. He said, I can't wait to see how

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Speaker 1: far you can put this in your mouth. First of all,

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Speaker 1: it was huge, so you're gonna be very disappointed if

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Speaker 1: it ever entered my mouth, which it never.

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Speaker 3: Fucking would Yeah, like you what do you mean you

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Speaker 3: can't wait? Right? You're not getting that from me? You weirdo?

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Speaker 2: Oh even know you unsolicited dick pick? What is this

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Speaker 2: two thousand and five?

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Speaker 3: It's so.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, yeah, if you ever want to

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Speaker 1: become something in life, and let's just say, in the

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Speaker 1: small percent chance you do, which meaning becomes something in

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Speaker 1: the public eye, which is what he wants to do,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have a lot of cleanup to do.

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Speaker 3: Dude.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've met me one time and you didn't ask

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Speaker 2: for it, right, No, of course, yeah, no, I'm just

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Speaker 2: checking because like, and I didn't mean two thousand and five,

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Speaker 2: it'd be more like twenty ten. But he just sent

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Speaker 2: it like willy nilly, not even nothing, and you didn't

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Speaker 2: even hint it you wanted to see it, and then

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Speaker 2: he sent it over. That's wild to me. People still

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Speaker 2: do that. If you're a man listening to this, don't

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Speaker 2: do that.

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Speaker 1: Don't do it, and certainly don't say that you can't

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Speaker 1: wait to see how far that someone can fit it

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Speaker 1: in their mouth, because number one, I'm offunded.

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Speaker 3: Number two, I'm grossed out.

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Speaker 1: Number three And my mom said, well, what did you say? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I told my mom about it.

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Speaker 3: She was like, how did you respond? And I was like,

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Speaker 3: he doesn't get a response from me. I just blocked him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to see it, and with that what

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Speaker 1: you just said, Like, while you're talking this way, I'm

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Speaker 1: dealing with like a sick daughter. Yeah, I'm rubbing calami

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Speaker 1: lotion all over her body because she has a rash,

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Speaker 1: right while you're sending me dick pics talking about it

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Speaker 1: being in my mouth, Like, I'm a thirty one year

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Speaker 1: old grown ass woman who's a mother. Show a little

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Speaker 1: fucking respect love that. Would you like a man to

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Speaker 1: be sending your mother messages like that? No, you would

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Speaker 1: want to punch them in the face. Yeah, so don't

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Speaker 1: send me shit like that. Yeah, someone's mom and someone's

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Speaker 1: kid have a little fucking respect.

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Speaker 2: So you blocked him.

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Speaker 3: I blocked him.

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Speaker 2: So you guys are just in two different spaces in

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Speaker 3: I mean, my.

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Speaker 2: God, I was not having also you letting him or

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Speaker 2: allowing him grace to like send him send it twice?

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Speaker 3: Hello?

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Speaker 2: Did you not get the hint when she didn't respond

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Speaker 2: and pretended like business is usual? I'm not going to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but there we go. There were just more red flags.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And then there was another guy who I was into.

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Speaker 1: He was like totally normal, and then he told me

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Speaker 1: he was like, sorry, I went to a strip club

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Speaker 1: last night, and I was like, man, there we go.

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Speaker 1: I don't need I don't need whoever I'm talking to

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Speaker 2: Is that a deal breaker nowadays?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Them like going to strip clubs, enjoying strip clubs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, I'm not judging you if you

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Speaker 1: go to a strip club, go to a strip club.

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Speaker 1: I used to love the strip clubs. I'm not there

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Speaker 1: in my life anymore. And I want to be compatible

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Speaker 1: to a strip club. I'm just saying, you're we're not

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Speaker 2: Right, we're not compatible. You don't have to settle. No,

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Speaker 2: you don't have to be like ugh, I mean he's

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Speaker 2: I think that's great. Bye.

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Speaker 3: I want to live in the light.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I have a sweet little girl you know.

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Speaker 1: And I which is so funny because on other podcasts,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, if she decides to be a stripper, I'll

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Speaker 2: But that's different. That's supporting your child.

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Speaker 1: That's not I just want her to always feel loved

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Speaker 2: And yeah, you know, she may be a dancer. I'm

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Speaker 2: she loves dancing, she gets down.

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Speaker 1: Yes, So whoever is going, whoever is going to be

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Speaker 1: going to be sending dick picks to people. Okay, yep, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't need my I don't need that and my

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Speaker 2: Yes, goodbye, good bye, goodbye. Nobody needs a dick pic.

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Speaker 3: So that's what I that's what I was doing.

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Speaker 1: I was laying in bed, nursing, nursing my my wounds,

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Speaker 1: and I, you know, have come out of my my

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Speaker 4: I'm like, you're supposed to be like I fucking nurse it, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's how I mean, that's how I am with a cold.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, to Kyle, like you think your fake coughing

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Speaker 2: and like, no, no.

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Speaker 1: Last night, Lisa fucking wanted to clean out the fridge

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Speaker 3: It was late, and.

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Speaker 1: I told her, I reiterated, I'm not helping. I'm wounded.

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Speaker 3: I'm not helping you. Yeah, and she then again she.

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Speaker 3: I'm not shocked by you not helping me, right.

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Speaker 2: But number one, Laala was told she can't lift anything,

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Speaker 1: But I'm not helping. But even my friends know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: even my friends know. When we filmed vander Pump Rules

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Speaker 1: and they're like, everyone has a part in doing this.

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Speaker 1: I say, I'm not helping. Tell me how much I

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Speaker 1: can pay. I'll write shea check, I'll do some venmo,

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Speaker 1: I'll have something wired. I am not helping.

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Speaker 3: I don't like it.

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Speaker 2: And You've lived a long enough life to decide that

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Speaker 3: And I'm glad.

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Speaker 2: I think that's great you have that freedom. I'm not helping.

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Speaker 2: I'm not lifting a finger.

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Speaker 2: Also, Lisa is so active. If you were to help her,

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Speaker 3: You guys like the most. It makes me tired.

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Speaker 2: I come into the office every weekend and it's been

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Speaker 3: She cleans for the housekeeper.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's just like constantly organizing, cleaning, putting stuff away.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's amazing, it is amazing, but a five

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Speaker 1: star bitch. Yeah, every single night, I'm like, you're the

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Speaker 1: best mom ever. She really is best mom and jeech.

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Speaker 3: Well I have her, Hi, babe, Hi.

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Speaker 5: I'm honored. I'm absolutely honored.

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Speaker 3: Right now, we always come back from it. We're resilient.

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Speaker 5: You're very very welcome. And if you were here, I would.

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Speaker 3: Hug you right now.

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Speaker 3: I would I would take you up on that. First.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely it was I mean, looking back now, who would

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Speaker 5: And ironically, although he was the one that said I

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Speaker 1: Now how old were you when you decided that that

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Speaker 5: I wish I knew the date, and I wish I

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Speaker 3: Oh my god. I love that you gauge things based.

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Speaker 1: When people talk about being a vegan, because it sounds

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Speaker 1: What do you recommend when somebody says, like, I want

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Speaker 5: That's a really good question, because we can sit here

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Speaker 5: it years before when I was pregnant with Ivy. In fact,

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Speaker 5: I was vegan for the first four months and then quit.

442
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Speaker 5: So it doesn't mean we're perfect. It doesn't mean any

443
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Speaker 5: you know, vegans don't think we're perfect. And it's all

444
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Speaker 5: about trying, at least I believe. It's not about being militant.

445
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,159
Speaker 5: It's about making changes that you can stick with. And

446
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Speaker 5: it doesn't mean you have to go cold turkey, forgive

447
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 5: the pun, but you know, just swapping out dairy butter

448
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Speaker 5: for like smart balance or like earth balance, which is

449
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 5: okay and you can't even tell the difference, you know,

450
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Speaker 5: or like swapping out your meal milk for almond milk

451
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Speaker 5: or oat milk or soy milk, or when you're at

452
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Speaker 5: Starbucks ordering an oat milk latte instead of a whole

453
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Speaker 5: milk latte, and it's making these little changes over time.

454
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Speaker 5: As far as the expense, You're absolutely right. You know,

455
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Speaker 5: people have lumped veganism these days into this wellness and

456
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Speaker 5: this aspirational like someone shopping at arrow On or Whole Foods,

457
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Speaker 5: and it's like, yes, if you go that route, there

458
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Speaker 5: are very expensive vegan items because people are taking advantage

459
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Speaker 5: of that right now. However, if you look at Whole Foods,

460
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Speaker 5: most of the foods in the world are vegan. There's

461
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Speaker 5: what three four animals that we eat right aything else

462
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Speaker 5: is vegan. And it's so funny when someone's like, oh,

463
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Speaker 5: I've never had vegan food. I'm like, you never had

464
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Speaker 5: a French fry, you never had an apple? Like most

465
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Speaker 5: of the food is vegan. So just kind of breaking down.

466
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Speaker 5: I guess this stereotype or this stigma that it's expensive,

467
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Speaker 5: it can be, but it doesn't have to be.

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Speaker 1: I love that what you just said about most of

469
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Speaker 1: the things that I eat are completely vegan. So it's

470
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Speaker 1: about coming up with the replacements. Like, I love my

471
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Speaker 1: almond milk. That's my replacement for dairy. And I didn't

472
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Speaker 1: even realize it. I just like almond milk better.

473
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Speaker 5: There you go.

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Speaker 1: So if someone were to, like go to a restaurant

475
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Speaker 1: and they on the menu, see like salmon, right, they

476
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Speaker 1: want salmon, it has like the vegetables, it has like

477
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Speaker 1: your carb or whatever, what in that moment would you

478
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Speaker 1: say to replace the salmon with I mean, it depends.

479
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Speaker 5: Where you're eating and what the options are. Fortunately you

480
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Speaker 5: and I live in LA and the options are limitless.

481
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Speaker 5: I feel like it's totally and we are very fortunate.

482
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Speaker 5: Someone in the middle of the country or down south,

483
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Speaker 5: I've had such trouble traveling. It's harder to seek it out.

484
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Speaker 5: And I think we need to acknowledge that. And it's

485
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Speaker 5: not an easy thing being vegan. Is it's easy for

486
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Speaker 5: me because I live in southern California, you know, and

487
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Speaker 5: I have access to all of these places where I

488
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Speaker 5: can buy all of my food and all of these

489
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Speaker 5: restaurants that serve vegan alternatives. But it's hard for me

490
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Speaker 5: to answer that question because I don't know what alternatives

491
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Speaker 5: will ask that particular restaurant.

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Speaker 1: You're right, we are lucky that we live in southern

493
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Speaker 1: California and everyone and their dog is a vegan. Like literally,

494
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Speaker 1: I've met vegan dogs, so true, real thing, what could

495
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Speaker 1: we have to replace something like a steak or salmon

496
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Speaker 1: or a cheeseburger?

497
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Speaker 3: Like what?

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Speaker 1: Just like, obviously there are some people that are like,

499
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Speaker 1: I'm craving a cheeseburger, But there's obviously something. There's a

500
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Speaker 1: reason why you're craving it. I believe you know. It's

501
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Speaker 1: just like when I my body knows like I want water,

502
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Speaker 1: Like my body needs water at that moment. So when

503
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Speaker 1: I think about certain cravings, it's like your body is

504
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Speaker 1: needing protein, Like what what would you like, what is

505
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Speaker 1: the protein you get that maybe meat would also give

506
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Speaker 1: you but your vegan.

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Speaker 5: Well, let's take it a step back and discuss protein

508
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Speaker 5: for a second. So it's a big myth that we

509
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Speaker 5: need to get our protein from animals, because where are

510
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 5: those animals getting the protein from. They're eating it, and

511
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 5: they're eating plants, and the animal is actually the middleman.

512
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Speaker 5: So it's a very dirty way of getting that same

513
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Speaker 5: protein that you can go direct to the source. There's

514
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Speaker 5: protein and vegetables, there's protein in peas, beans, everything, so

515
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Speaker 5: we don't we definitely don't need to get our protein

516
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Speaker 5: from animals, and that's just been this myth that's perpetuated

517
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Speaker 5: by the meat industry, dairy industry, all of that. So

518
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Speaker 5: once we are aware of that and that we don't

519
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 5: need as even we don't even need as much protein

520
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Speaker 5: as we're being told that we need. But I go

521
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Speaker 5: straight to the source for my protein, so I'll have

522
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Speaker 5: plant protein. So in the morning, I'll have a smoothie

523
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Speaker 5: with plant protein instead of weigh protein, which is horrible

524
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Speaker 5: for you.

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Speaker 3: Really, way protein is horrible for you.

526
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Speaker 5: Oh yes, So you're talking about cravings, and you know

527
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Speaker 5: one of the reasons why we may crave sea cheese.

528
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 5: People are like, oh, I can't give up my cheese.

529
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Speaker 5: So if we want to get into the dairy industry,

530
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Speaker 5: which is just probably the most torturous out of all

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Speaker 5: of them, which I was very ignorant too because I

532
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Speaker 5: was a vegetarian and I thought I was reducing harm,

533
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 5: which I was, but not to the fullest extent. And

534
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Speaker 5: when I learned what happened in the dairy industry, it's

535
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Speaker 5: as a mom even it's just so heartbreaking because these cows,

536
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Speaker 5: they're slaves. They are forcibly impregnated. Cows have to carry

537
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Speaker 5: a baby for nine months. Cows is don't produce milk.

538
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 5: They produce milk because they were raped and they were impregnated. Okay,

539
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Speaker 5: so now they're pregnant for nine months with this baby.

540
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Speaker 5: The moment they have their baby, it's stripped away from them.

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Speaker 5: Cows cry. Cows you can hear them like pining out

542
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Speaker 5: in pain for their baby. I've seen videos of cow's

543
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 5: mother cows chasing after their newborn baby who's being wheeled

544
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 5: away in a wheelbarrow. And what's going to happen to

545
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 5: that baby is if it's a male, it's shot in

546
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Speaker 5: the head like the first moments it can walk. And

547
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 5: if it's female, she's put into that same slavery system

548
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 5: that the mother was. And then ultimately those dairy cows

549
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 5: are killed when their milk production goes down, they're killed.

550
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Speaker 5: So that life is so sad to me. And then

551
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Speaker 5: on top of it, the reason why we're so addicted

552
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Speaker 5: to cheese is because the milk that we're stealing that's

553
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 5: intended for her baby, there is cassiine in it, which

554
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 5: is an addictive substance to make the calf drink it.

555
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 5: It's to help that calf get nourishment and want to

556
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Speaker 5: keep drinking from its mother. So now that is so

557
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 5: concentrated when it's turned, when that milk is turned into

558
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Speaker 5: its cheese form, that we as humans are literally becoming

559
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Speaker 5: addicted to it in the way that was meant for

560
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Speaker 5: the cals.

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Speaker 1: I'm beyond shocked right now. And how I did not

562
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Speaker 1: know that that process was that torturous. I knew that

563
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Speaker 1: I knew that cows were like very maternal and into

564
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Speaker 1: their babies, and you see when they're a cow is

565
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: released back into their like little farm setting there like

566
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Speaker 1: jumping around.

567
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Speaker 3: WHOA.

568
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Speaker 5: I often get into Instagram wars with people, and I

569
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Speaker 5: try not to.

570
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Speaker 1: No, I love when I love when you get into them.

571
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. It reminds me of me

572
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: when I talk to people about SeaWorld, because I turned

573
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Speaker 1: into a megatrol with SeaWorld.

574
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Speaker 5: Very similar And thank you for the work that you

575
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 5: and the attention that you have brought to all of that.

576
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 5: But yeah, I recently got into a fight with someone

577
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Speaker 5: about it because I was saying, these animals are slaves,

578
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 5: like the entitlement of us humans to think that animals

579
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Speaker 5: are put here for our entertainment or for us to

580
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 5: consume when we don't need to, when we have other choices.

581
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Speaker 5: And I said, you know, these animals are slaves, and

582
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Speaker 5: someone got so mad at me for comparing it to slavery.

583
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Speaker 5: But then that brings up a whole other subject of speciesism. Okay,

584
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Speaker 5: so it's like, it's okay for us to do this

585
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 5: to a cow, but what if I put you in

586
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 5: there and I impregnated you and stole your baby and

587
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 5: stole your milk. That is so illegal, that is so atrocious.

588
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 5: But it's because we think we're so much better than

589
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Speaker 5: these animals, or we're worth so much more than they are,

590
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Speaker 5: just because we're human. But why, why, why is my

591
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 5: life worth more than that cow or that baby calf

592
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 5: that's getting shot in the head. And then you could

593
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 5: take species and speciesism even further and look at your dog.

594
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 5: Would you want those things happening to your dog? It

595
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 5: would break your heart absolutely different.

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Speaker 1: And there are things that we eat in the United

597
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Speaker 1: States that you know, those are like treasured animals that

598
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Speaker 1: they would never in their life, you know, be eating

599
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Speaker 1: a cow. So no, you're you're making all this sense

600
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Speaker 1: of the world that I'm totally on your same page especially,

601
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Speaker 1: and I think when you can can bring someone's dog

602
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Speaker 1: into it, because it's ultimately the same thing we're talking

603
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: about animals, right, it becomes a topic that is relatable

604
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Speaker 1: for more people.

605
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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a whole brainwashing. There's a cognitive dissonance happening

606
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 5: where we can look at our dogs and think that

607
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 5: they're the best thing ever, and we love them so much,

608
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Speaker 5: and we can recognize that they all have separate personalities.

609
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Speaker 5: If you've had more than one dog in your life,

610
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 5: you know, they all have different personalities. They like certain things,

611
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 5: they dislike certain things, and we can understand that for

612
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 5: these dogs or these cats. But guess what, this pig

613
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Speaker 5: is smarter than your dog. It's the smartest a three

614
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Speaker 5: year old's human. Imagine doing this to a three year

615
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,479
Speaker 5: old baby. The things that we do to these pigs.

616
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 5: That's how much they can comprehend what's happening to them.

617
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 5: And yet, you know, we give all of this worth

618
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Speaker 5: to these dogs and cats. But because we have this

619
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Speaker 5: cognitive dissonance to the farm animals, we think it's okay

620
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Speaker 5: to do that to them, and it's nobody's fault that

621
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Speaker 5: thinks this. You know, if this isn't a situation where

622
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Speaker 5: I'm judging people, I just want to educate. Like you

623
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Speaker 5: just said, you had no idea that that happens in

624
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Speaker 5: the dairy industry. Do you know what happens in the

625
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 5: egg industry? Do you know what happens to the mail chicks?

626
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Speaker 1: No?

627
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 3: Can you tell us?

628
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Speaker 5: Well, in the egg industry, when the baby chicks are born,

629
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Speaker 5: if they're male, they are put on a conveyor belt

630
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 5: and thrown into a wood schipper their first day of

631
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 5: first moments of being alive, they are crushed in a

632
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 5: wood schipper, or they're put in a plastic bag, put

633
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 5: in the trash to suffocate, as if they have zero worth.

634
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 5: And that is the expense of eating an egg. It's

635
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 5: like I always you know, envision like think of a blender.

636
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 5: Anytime you want to eat an egg, think of it

637
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 5: a blender. Would you throw a male baby chicken there?

638
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 3: No turn it on to eat ever?

639
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 5: Never, that's what's happening. That's what we're paying people to

640
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 5: do for us, but we don't want to see it.

641
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 5: And it's like, as long as people don't know what's happening,

642
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 5: I can't fault them, And all I want to do

643
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 5: is educate on what actually is happening, and from there

644
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 5: you do what you want. And I will respect someone

645
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 5: who says, you know what. I've watched all the slaughterhouse footage.

646
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 5: I've seen everything that happens. I just don't think animals

647
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 5: are worthless. I think I'm worth more and I'm entitled

648
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 5: to this food. Fine, as long as you know what's happening,

649
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 5: that's your choice and that's your decision. But my whole

650
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 5: thing is I'm not going to try to change somebody's mind.

651
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 5: Who is that type of person. All I want to

652
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 5: do is just educate someone who may not know and

653
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 5: be like, I had no idea I'm going to change

654
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 5: this and that, or I had no idea. I need

655
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Speaker 5: to research just more for myself. That is what I

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Speaker 5: love doing.

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Speaker 1: I also want to get into you said it was

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Speaker 1: time to put your money where your mouth was, and

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Speaker 1: that's when you invested in Sugar Taco, which is a

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Speaker 1: vegan restaurant. It's in La right. Do we have them

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Speaker 1: anywhere else? I've only eaten it in La.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. We have two locations. One is in the Valley

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Speaker 5: and Sherman Oaks on Ventura Boulevard, and another one is

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Speaker 5: on Melrose, just off of Librea, and we are in

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Speaker 5: process of opening our third in Long Beach. And what

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Speaker 5: is really exciting is I am now in charge of

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Speaker 5: our food retail and I currently have a freezer stocked

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Speaker 5: with testing types of our protein so that we can

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Speaker 5: understand how to ship them. And we're going to be

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Speaker 5: shipping nationwide. So no, wow, yeah, no, matter where anyone lives,

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Speaker 5: soon they will be able to have Sugar Taco. But

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Speaker 5: we're also opening Eli's first vegan butcher deli sandwich shop,

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Speaker 5: and we will be shipping all of those vegan meats

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Speaker 5: and cheeses and macaroni and cheese and all those good

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Speaker 5: things cookies. We're going to be ship shipping those nationwide

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Speaker 5: as well.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, this is amazing. I'm thrilled to hear this.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, Sugar Taco is fantastic, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Like we had it I think for Brock's birthday party, Yes,

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Speaker 1: and it was phenomenal. You would have ever known that

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Speaker 1: you weren't going savage on pork or whatever it was

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Speaker 1: that I was eating.

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Speaker 5: He fed it to like his Aussie friends and all

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Speaker 5: them it was vegan and they had no idea and

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Speaker 5: oh man, those turtles were so good. They're the best

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Speaker 5: Brits of had. I was like, they're vegan, They're like what?

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Speaker 3: No, No, I know.

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Speaker 1: Well, for the longest time, I didn't realize that Sugar

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Speaker 1: Taco was a vegan spot. Really yes, but I'm kind

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Speaker 1: of clue. I get I sometimes I'm very clueless. I

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Speaker 1: feel like I'm pretty on it, but there are things

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Speaker 1: where I'm like completely clueless. So you invested in Sugar Taco,

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Speaker 1: but now you're also in a relief program where you

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Speaker 1: are giving food to this one like really hit me

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Speaker 1: when you were taking on women and children of tomestic violence.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. No, every time I go there, I I cry. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So the first thing I did when I joined Sugar Taco,

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Speaker 5: I said, we you know, they already they were already amazed,

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Speaker 5: and they had charity components already. Our Children's menu, we

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Speaker 5: are every time you purchase something off of Children's menu

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Speaker 5: that we give a meal to a child in need.

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Speaker 5: Every time you purchase a doggy taco, that all of

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Speaker 5: that goes to a different animal charity per month. So

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Speaker 5: that was there. They already had their charity components that

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Speaker 5: I loved and what attracted me to the company, but

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Speaker 5: I said, I want to do another one. And I

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Speaker 5: have been really, really passionate about the homeless problem in

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Speaker 5: Los Angeles and also specifically helping women and children. So

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Speaker 5: when I found this shelter in LA it's called Good Shepherd.

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Speaker 5: They house women and children who are impacted by domestic

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Speaker 5: violence who had to leave and they needed a place

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Speaker 5: to stay. And the first time I went there, I

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Speaker 5: started crying because there's this I'll send you the picture,

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Speaker 5: but there's this huge wall with hand prints from all

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Speaker 5: the children that live there now. And because I couldn't

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Speaker 5: go in to see the kids, it was and COVID,

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Speaker 5: but just seeing the hamprints and knowing that they're safe now.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, no, it's fine.

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Speaker 5: It's really special to be able to give back to

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Speaker 5: them and those strong women that left the situations that

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Speaker 5: they were in. So yeah. So our food program is

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Speaker 5: that we collect donations and then Sugar Taco or I

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Speaker 5: personally will match it and double it and will bring

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Speaker 5: the vegan food to these shelters. And I've even handed

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Speaker 5: it out to people on the streets. But I think

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Speaker 5: the most I think the most help that I can

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Speaker 5: do is to give it to these shelters and these

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Speaker 5: base women and children.

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Speaker 1: You are truly a beautiful soul, Like you have a passion,

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Speaker 1: You see a problem and you do the work. And

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Speaker 1: I think so many people, I mean, I even am

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Speaker 1: guilty of this at times where you know, you know

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Speaker 1: that something's wrong, you can talk about it all day long,

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Speaker 1: you're actually doing something about it. And you know, I've

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Speaker 1: always liked you, even with our bumps in the road.

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Speaker 1: But I'm like truly in awe of you.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, and the feeling is much well.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Jamie. I'm telling you, I read this bio,

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Speaker 1: and I've read a lot of bios. I've had a

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Speaker 1: lot of people on the podcast, but this like really

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Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh.

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Speaker 3: You've stolen my heart.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you've taught a lot of my listeners a

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Speaker 1: lot of things, because I've just learned a lot. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I just made a huge life change today a matter

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Speaker 1: of seconds that the whole damn family's vegan.

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Speaker 5: I do want to warn you, though, when when discussing

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Speaker 5: these things, I mean, we can find anything on the

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Speaker 5: internet to support any point of view that we want.

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Speaker 5: And you may get flooded with contradictory information as to

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Speaker 5: what I've said, and that's fine, and I just want

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Speaker 5: you to be aware of you know, this is a

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Speaker 5: very passionate issue for a lot of people, and you

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Speaker 5: know it means that they have to take some personal

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Speaker 5: responsibility and personal change and that's hard for a lot

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Speaker 5: of people. So you will get a lot of pushback.

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Speaker 5: But if you just keep the animals in mind and

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Speaker 5: that you're doing it for a greater purpose, right, even

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Speaker 5: when you're if you happen to start watching the footage

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Speaker 5: of you know, what actually happens to these animals and

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Speaker 5: the documentaries, and I'm going to suggest it's heartbreaking, you

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Speaker 5: will cry for the entire documentary. And you don't have

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Speaker 5: to keep watching it. You don't have to keep retraumatizing yourself.

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Speaker 5: But as long as you know what's happening, that's that's

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Speaker 5: good enough, and that you can take that fight to

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Speaker 5: keep fighting for the animals.

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Speaker 1: But it's not easy, no, And you know what, I'm

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Speaker 1: glad you said that, because that does happen. I mean,

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Speaker 1: even when I talk about, you know, not supporting animals

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Speaker 1: in captivity, I'm flooded with people and I just know,

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Speaker 1: like you know what you're I'm not the person for you,

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Speaker 1: right you.

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Speaker 3: Know you got the wrong audience with me.

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Speaker 1: I want to thank you so much for joining me

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Speaker 1: on the Give Them All a podcast. You were amazing

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Speaker 1: and now I know why everyone wanted you on the podcast.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much for having me