1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:05,119 Speaker 2: It is verdict to a Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 2: with you as well, and we've got a pack show 4 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 2: we're gonna deal with. Devin Archer scheduled to testify today, 5 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: plus Hunter Biden's plea agreement that blew up, and then 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 2: new indictments for Donald Trump. Senator, let's first start with 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: this news about Devin Archer. He is scheduled to testify 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 2: today and the government seems to be doing everything they 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: can to make sure that doesn't happen. 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly right. We are anticipating testimony today before 11 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 3: the House Oversight Committee from Devin Archer that is expected 12 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 3: to be bombshell testimony. It is testimony that Joe Biden 13 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 3: does not want Congress to hear. It is testimony Hunter 14 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 3: Biden does not want Congress to hear. And sadly, we 15 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 3: have seen over the weekend the Biden Department of Justice 16 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 3: go after Devin Archer issue an arrest warrant for Devin Archer. 17 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 3: They're trying to do everything they can to silence Devin 18 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 3: Archer because his testimony is problematic. Now, who is Devon Archer? 19 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 3: Devin Archer was Hunter Biden's best friend, He was his 20 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 3: business partner. They were in business together. Devin Archer was 21 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 3: on the board of Bearisma with Hunter Biden. Devin Archer 22 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 3: also co founded the investment firm Rosemont Seneca alongside Hunter 23 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 3: Biden and John Kerry's step son, Christopher Hines. Look, these 24 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 3: were young boys trading on Daddy and it was good 25 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 3: to be a corrupt democrat. The money was flowing. So 26 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 3: Devin Archer is not some fringe character. He was side 27 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 3: by side with Hunter, side by side with Joe throughout. 28 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: All of this. 29 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 3: Now we covered in last week's pod, and if you 30 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 3: didn't listen to last week's pods, I would encourage you 31 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 3: to go back, because last week really laid out all 32 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 3: of the evidence where it currently stands about Joe Biden's corruption, 33 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 3: his involvement in receiving overseas bribes, the evidence that suggests 34 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 3: he did so. It is comprehensive and compelling, and I 35 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 3: don't know of another place besides this podcast that has 36 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 3: laid out that information. But one of the news we 37 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 3: broke that virtually nobody was talking about until we laid 38 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 3: it out was the massive change in narrative from Joe 39 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,839 Speaker 3: Biden in the White House because of Devon Archer's testimony 40 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 3: expected today. For years, what Joe Biden and Hunter Biden 41 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 3: and the Biden White House said was that Joe had never, never, never, 42 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 3: never talked to Hunter Biden about any of his overseas dealings. 43 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 4: Listen, be Kimes, have you ever spoken to your son 44 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 4: about his overseas business dealings. 45 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 5: I've never spoken my son about his overseas monsumers. I 46 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 5: have never discussed with my son, or mine brother or 47 00:02:55,560 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 5: anyone else in being him given their business period. And 48 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 5: what I will do is the same thing we did 49 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 5: in our administration. Don't be an absolute wall between personal 50 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 5: and private and the government. 51 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 3: Do you stand by your statement that you did not 52 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 3: discuss any of your son's overseas business. 53 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 6: Large Do you think it was wrong for him to 54 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 6: take that position knowing that it was really because that 55 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 6: company wanted access to you? 56 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 4: Well, that's not true. 57 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 5: You're saying things you do not know what you're talking about. 58 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 5: No one said that. 59 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 3: Who said that? 60 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: My favorite there is the last Well even the Today's 61 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 2: Show center was saying, Hey, it's clear he got the 62 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 2: job because they weren't access to unit. 63 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: He's like, how dare you say that? 64 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 3: It's not like Hunter's a geologist. It's not like he 65 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 3: knows how to drill for natural gas. It's not like 66 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 3: he speaks Ukrainian. 67 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: You know. 68 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 3: As we talked about last week. According to the FD 69 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 3: ten twenty three, the oligarch who owned Barisma said his 70 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 3: dog was smarter than Hunter Biden. So he wasn't brought 71 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 3: in for his expertise on oil and gas. He was 72 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 3: brought in because of who daddy is. Now Joe Biden's 73 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 3: never talked to Hunter about his business dealings, never talked 74 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 3: to Hunter about his business dealings, never talked to Hunter 75 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 3: about his business dealings. Is expected to get blown to 76 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 3: smithereens today when Devin Archer testifies to the House. So 77 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 3: last week, in anticipation of that testimony, testimony that we 78 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 3: are expecting will be that Devin Archer will say that 79 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 3: Joe talked dozens of times to Hunter, to Hunter's business partners, 80 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 3: he was on phone calls, he was in meetings. It 81 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 3: is expected that the testimony today will be miles away 82 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 3: from I never talked to him, never talked to him, 83 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 3: never talked to him. So last week Kareem Jean Pierre 84 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 3: executed a triple Lindy flip of changing narrative. That is 85 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 3: truly one for the ages. Give a listen curious of 86 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 3: the White House, and the President still stand behind his 87 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 3: comment that he's never been involved and has never even 88 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 3: spoken to his son about his So I've been asked. 89 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 7: This question a million times. 90 00:04:58,440 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 3: The answer is not going to change. 91 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 7: Answer remains the same. 92 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 5: The President was never in business with his son. 93 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 3: I just don't have anything. 94 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 4: Else to add. 95 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 2: That's a big change center. We talked about it last week, 96 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,559 Speaker 2: and it made some headlines. 97 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 3: After we talked about it on the podcast. We talked 98 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 3: about it that morning on the podcast. That night it 99 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 3: was leading Fox News on multiple shows, So it really was. 100 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 3: It was a terrific example of how this podcast is 101 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 3: breaking news and driving news forward and then being amplified 102 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 3: across multiple multiple stations and other media. 103 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's the fact that they changed it and 104 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 2: they thought that no one would notice it. 105 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: But they're admitting guilt. 106 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 2: They're admitting now that Joe Biden clearly talked with his 107 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 2: son about business and all of the family members, and 108 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: they did that in anticipation of Devon Archer testifying today 109 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 2: that's the only reason why they changed the narrative. 110 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: Because they're expecting that what. 111 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: He's going to say, if they can't stop him from testifying, 112 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: is going to be, as you just described it, so 113 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: damning to the Biden crime family that there's no way 114 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: they could sit up there at the White House that 115 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: afternoon or the next day and say, no, they did 116 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: not talk about business, because there's overwhelming evidence now from 117 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 2: the people that worked with the Bidens of them talking 118 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: business and selling access to this government and to Joe 119 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 2: Biden when he was in positions of power to make 120 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 2: big decisions on behalf of the US in those countries. 121 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 3: Well, and the Biden White House or the Biden Department 122 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 3: of Justice know that Devin Archer's testimony today is a 123 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 3: real problem that he's very likely going to demonstrate or 124 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 3: at least testify that Joe Biden and the Biden White 125 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 3: House were lying repeatedly, over and over and over again, 126 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 3: that they were lying deliberately, and that Joe Biden himself 127 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 3: was directly involved in the corruption. That is an enormous threat. 128 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 3: So what did they do this weekend? On Saturday? The 129 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 3: Biden Department of Justice sent a letter they are trying 130 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 3: to arrest Devon Archin Archer by the way, on Saturday, 131 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 3: right before the testimony on Monday, and so the US 132 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 3: Attorney sub submitted to the court. I'm going to read 133 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 3: you what they submitted to the court. In light of 134 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 3: the foregoing, the Government respectfully requests that the defendant, that 135 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 3: would be Devon Archer, be ordered to surrender a date, 136 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 3: at a date and time determined by the Court to 137 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 3: a facility designated by the Bureau of Prisons to commence 138 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 3: his term of imprisonment. The Government is confirmed with Counsel 139 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 3: for the defendant about this request and asks that Council 140 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 3: propose a date for the defendant's surrender. Council responded with 141 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 3: the following position quote, mister Archer believes it is premature 142 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 3: to set a report date in light of his anticipated 143 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 3: continuing appeal as well as the newly discovered sentencing error 144 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 3: that the Government has now conceded. Council for mister Archer 145 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 3: will put in a response to the government's request by Wednesday. 146 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 3: The Government disagree with Council's positions that a report date 147 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 3: should not be set and respectfully requests permission to respond 148 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 3: to any arguments made by the defendant. Now, this is 149 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 3: what they're sending on Saturday, forty eight hours before Devon 150 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 3: Archer is going to go to cat Capitol Hill, raise 151 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 3: his hand and testify. And this can only be understood 152 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 3: as an attempt by the Biden DOJ to intimidate, to 153 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 3: threaten Devon Archer, to tell him shut up. We have 154 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 3: the prosecutors and if you talk, the consequences will be severe. 155 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 3: This is on its face, I believe witness intimidation. 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Let's let's 186 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 2: talk a little bit more about this Hunter plea deal 187 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 2: and I want you to hear how the media UH 188 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: is trying our at least members of Congress are trying 189 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 2: to normalize what happened last week. They understand now that 190 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 2: the Biden crime family is at risk of really being exposed. 191 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 2: And once we learned what was in that agreement, which 192 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 2: was immunity for all prosecutions, that's what they were trying 193 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 2: to sneak in there. The judge clearly said uh huh. 194 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 2: And now there are members of Congress Democrats, one of 195 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 2: them Congressman Dan Goldman, who tried to normalize a judge 196 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 2: stopping a plea agreement and now going, oh, this happens 197 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 2: every day. 198 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: Oh, this is not a big deal. Take a listen 199 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: to this. 200 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 6: I want to turn to the other major development this 201 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 6: week involving Hunter Biden. Were you surprised to see the 202 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 6: judge in Delaware reject the plea deal, not reject it, 203 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:12,719 Speaker 6: but not accept it. 204 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 4: Well, right, I think that there's been a lot of 205 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 4: hay made of this, but this is a fairly typical 206 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 4: process that goes through. This was an unusual agreement in 207 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 4: part because it's a twenty four month agreement and there's 208 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 4: the possibility that Donald Trump will be president and we 209 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 4: know from his presidency how much he weaponized the Department 210 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 4: of Justice to go after his enemies and to favor 211 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 4: his associates. And so Hunter Biden's lawyers are concerned that 212 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 4: Donald Trump, if he were to get the presidency, would 213 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 4: weaponize the Department of Justice, and so there is an 214 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 4: added calculation to this. But the fact of the matter 215 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 4: is that this is a Trump appointed US attorney, a 216 00:11:55,400 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 4: Trump appointed judge. This is a very pendant and thorough investigation. 217 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 4: And I think that whatever happens in the Hunter Biden case, 218 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 4: we can rest assured that it was done based solely 219 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 4: on the facts and the evidence, and that there was 220 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 4: nothing else to it. 221 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 6: But if you've kind of touched on why this was 222 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 6: in there, But the line in the plea agreement that 223 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 6: is most important and most controversial is this one. It says, 224 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 6: the United States agrees not to criminally prosecute Biden Hunter 225 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 6: Biden outside of the terms of this agreement or any 226 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 6: federal for any federal crimes encompassed by the attached statement 227 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 6: of facts. And the attached statement of facts goes into 228 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 6: all of his foreign income that he received. It's the 229 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 6: center of what Republicans have been talking about, from Russia, 230 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 6: from China, from Romania. 231 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 7: Was that too broad? 232 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 6: I mean, to have basically a blanket immunity from anything 233 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 6: related to all of that income. 234 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 4: No, because that's what they've been investigating for five years, 235 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 4: and they ultimately determined they could not charge him. And 236 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 4: for whatever reason, we don't know. The House Republicans have 237 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 4: no idea what the actual evidence is that David Weiss has. 238 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 4: And this was an exhaustive five year investigation, and so 239 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 4: what Hunter Biden's lawyer wanted was some confirmation that they 240 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 4: will not charge him for any crimes related to the 241 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 4: investigation that they that they underwent. That's fairly typical and 242 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 4: oftentimes prosecutors and defense lawyers go back and forth about 243 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 4: what degree of immunity a defendant will get. But let's 244 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 4: remember this is not as if it's a new investigation. 245 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 4: This is five years and we had testimony of foreign 246 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 4: bank accounts, domestic bank accounts, search warrants, hundreds of thousands 247 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 4: of documents that they poured over, and ultimately they decided 248 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 4: they could not charge Hunter Biden with it. And that's 249 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 4: how the process should work. 250 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: There's so many things he said in their centater that 251 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 2: are just absurd. Go through it, because this is a 252 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 2: democrat that's just making stuff up as he goes. 253 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 3: Well, and let's start by who this is talking. So 254 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 3: this is Dan Goldman. He's a newly elected Democrat Congressman 255 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 3: from New York. What did Goldman do before he was 256 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 3: elected to Congress as a Democrat. He was the lead 257 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 3: lawyer for the House Democrats in Donald Trump's impeachment, so 258 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 3: he was working for Adam Schiff. He was Adam Schiff's 259 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 3: attack dog, and he brought look in many ways, Dan 260 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 3: Goldman is intimately intertwined with the creation and birth of 261 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 3: the Verdict podcast because we launched the first night of 262 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 3: the first impeachment when Goldman was bringing an utterly frivolous, 263 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 3: abusive impeachment ironically alleging quid pro quo concerning Burisma everything 264 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 3: that Goldman, on behalf of the House Democrats alleged Donald 265 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 3: Trump did. The evidence is now overwhelming that Joe Biden 266 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 3: in fact did not. 267 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: Only that. 268 00:14:55,320 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 3: By the way, among other things, Goldman is also unbelievably wealthy. 269 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 3: He is an heir to the Levi Strauth's fortune. According 270 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 3: to his financial disclosures, he's worth up to two hundred 271 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 3: and fifty million dollars, So he has massive money that 272 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 3: he inherited, and he now works as a Democrat as 273 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 3: a partisan attack dog. And look at what he started with. 274 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 3: He said, well, this was an unusual plea agreement. Why 275 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 3: because he says, we all know that Trump weaponized the 276 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 3: Department of Justice. What utter and complete garbage. One of 277 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 3: the things to understand about the left, what they do, 278 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 3: they will accuse you of doing. These guys, Sigmund Freud, 279 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 3: if he was drawing up projection, Dan Goldman would have 280 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 3: been the picture that he drew of exactly what the 281 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 3: Democrats are guilty of he wants to allege. I know 282 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 3: that the Democrats say the words Trump weaponized the legal system. 283 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 3: What they can't point to is anyone who was prosecuted 284 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 3: for political reasons, any of Trump's political enemies, they went 285 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 3: after any of Trump's political friends who got exonerated. It 286 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 3: is utterly false. And in fact, what happened the legal 287 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 3: system not only was not weaponized in aid of Trump, 288 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 3: the hardcore career partisan liberals who had burrowed into the 289 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 3: Department of Justice and the FBI and the CIA and 290 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 3: the alphabet soup of Washington waged war against Trump. So 291 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 3: it is exactly the opposite. But his whole contention as well. 292 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 3: We had to have a special plea agreement here because 293 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 3: you know, Trump could get elected in two years, and 294 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 3: so we knew that Trump would weaponize the legal system. 295 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 3: Mind you, Goldman doesn't address the Democrats abusing the impeachment 296 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 3: process twice. It doesn't address the what one hundred and 297 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 3: forty three different indictments against Donald Trump. He doesn't address 298 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 3: the absolute double standard applied to Joe Biden, applied to 299 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 3: Hunter Biden. None of that matters. He's going to accuse 300 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 3: the other side of weaponizing facts. 301 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 2: Be damned well, as you just mentioned it, Senator there 302 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 2: with the facts don't seem to matter. At least, there 303 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 2: does seem to be a little bit of a break 304 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 2: with the media. They are now starting to, i think, 305 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 2: hedge their bets because they're starting to understand that this 306 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 2: narrative is changing quickly. You look at Miranda Devine, she 307 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 2: said that not only was the President talking business, but 308 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 2: she also said this exclusively this week on Hannity. 309 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 7: Listen inst you heard the White House spokeswoman Karine Jean 310 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 7: Pierre yesterday has just changed the language. She said, Oh, 311 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 7: I've said this a million times and the answer remains 312 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 7: the same, but the answer was completely different. It's now 313 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 7: it's the president is not in business with his son 314 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 7: very different from saying I know nothing about my son's 315 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 7: overseas business dealings. So I think that it's overwhelming. The 316 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 7: evidence already on the tape and about to be told 317 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 7: by Devon Archer that Joe Biden was meeting with Hunter 318 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 7: Biden's overseas business partners, and that, of course was incredibly 319 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 7: important to what Hunter Biden's business was, which was selling 320 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 7: influence of his father then the vice president. 321 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 2: In politics center, when you're running for office, people give money, 322 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 2: they do donations, and they want to make sure. 323 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: That when they give money that you're going to win. 324 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 2: If you're a Democrat right now, you're concerned and there 325 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,719 Speaker 2: are people that are talking that maybe this is our 326 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 2: exit ramp moment for Joe Biden. I think that's part 327 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 2: of what the media is trying to figure out now, 328 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 2: is Hey, it's still far enough ahead. If Devin Archer 329 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 2: comes out, connects all the cash, the big guy shows 330 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 2: the big guy was in business with Hunter Biden, the 331 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 2: Plea deal now opens him up to a whole lot 332 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 2: more that could come falling down now? Is that part 333 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 2: of the reason why you think the media is starting 334 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 2: to change their tune at least dip their toes in 335 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 2: the water of this story. 336 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 3: Well, they're definitely getting nervous, and in a minimum, I 337 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 3: think they're looking for a plan B, they're looking for 338 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 3: a contingency plan. I think their preferred path is still 339 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 3: they believe Donald Trump will be the Republican nominee. They 340 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 3: believe if Trump is the Republican nominee, that they can 341 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 3: nominate Joe Biden again, keep him completely hidden from everyone, 342 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 3: lock him in the basement, and they think running against 343 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 3: Trump is enough to win in twenty twenty four. That 344 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 3: might be right, that might be wrong, but that's what 345 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 3: they believe. As the evidence keeps piling up of Joe 346 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 3: Biden's corruption, I do think you are seeing partisan Democrats 347 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 3: in the media getting a little more nervous. Look the 348 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 3: fact that the Hunter Biden plea deal got thrown out 349 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 3: last week was a big damn deal that was concerning 350 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 3: if you're a Democrat strategist, if you're a consultant, if 351 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 3: you're looking at how do we maximize the chances of 352 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 3: Democrats winning in twenty twenty four. This investigation prosecutions of 353 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 3: Hunter Biden, pos prosecution of Joe Biden. The longer it lingers, 354 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 3: the more dangerous it is. And so this past week 355 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 3: was a very very bad week for Joe Biden and 356 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 3: for the White House. 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You got to get a new 396 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 2: news cycle, right you don't want this lingering all week 397 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, new indictments against Donald Trump. 398 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 2: There are a lot of people that were watching this 399 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 2: saying this doesn't make any sense. 400 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: I'm not buying it. 401 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 2: Is this, you know, retaliation or to change that news cycle. 402 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 1: Give me your take. 403 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 3: Well, there's no doubt the timing is fishy. And as 404 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 3: we've discussed with Devin Archer, this Department of Justice has 405 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 3: demonstrated that it's perfectly willing to try to stop bad 406 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 3: developments for the White House to try to intimidate witnesses 407 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 3: again against testifying against Joe Biden. And in this instance, 408 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 3: it was an extraordinarily bad week. But it wasn't just 409 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 3: a bad week for Joe Biden and Hunter Biden. It 410 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 3: was a bad week for the Biden DOJ. Look, the 411 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 3: Biden DOJ came in with this sweetheart deal for Hunter 412 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 3: Biden designed to cover up not only Hunter's crimes but 413 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 3: ensure that Joe was not investigated, and the federal judge 414 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 3: basically laughed at them because they were trying to be very, 415 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 3: very sneaky. The agreement was memorialized in two different documents. 416 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 3: Number one, you had the Plea Agreement on the tax 417 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 3: document on the tax crimes, that was one document, but 418 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 3: where they were doing all of the work was in 419 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 3: a second document they filed that dealt with the gun 420 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 3: crime in particular, and they filed a diversion agreement on 421 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 3: the gun crime. So Hunter Biden agreed that he committed 422 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 3: two misdemeter tax crimes and he agreed to pay a 423 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 3: fine but not serve a day in jail. That was 424 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 3: the plea agreement. There's a second agreement that was the 425 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 3: diversion agreement. The diversion agreement, Hunter Biden agreed that he 426 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 3: possessed a firearm, which was illegal because he is a 427 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 3: drug user and drug addict and under federal law, and 428 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 3: he's illegal for a drug user and drug addict possess 429 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 3: a firearm that normally carries jail time. But he got 430 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 3: a special diversion agreement which for twenty four months, if 431 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 3: he manages to stay out of jail and not commit 432 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 3: additional crimes, that crime will go away. Now buried within 433 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 3: the diversion agreement is a reference that tries to piggyback 434 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 3: all of the other language that was in the tax agreement, 435 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 3: and it was basically a very sneaky way of trying 436 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 3: to get the Department of Justice to promise we will 437 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 3: not prosecute Hunter Biden for anything else. We won't prosecute 438 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 3: him for any other tax crimes. We won't prosecuting him 439 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 3: for being a foreign agent, we won't prosecute him for corruption, 440 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 3: we won't prosecute him for bribery. Everything that we discuss 441 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 3: in the other document, mind you, that's the plea agreement 442 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 3: on the tax crimes is just incorporated by reference in 443 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 3: the diversion agreement. And what happened is the judge called 444 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 3: him out on it, and in particular, the judge in 445 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 3: open court asked, could the government bring a charge under 446 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 3: the Foreign Agent's Registration Act. Now the prosecutor, particularly after 447 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 3: a month of everything that's been covered about the testimony 448 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 3: and the House and everyone focusing on the efforts to 449 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 3: protect Joe Biden, to cover up Hunter Biden. The prosecutor 450 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 3: was embarrassed and he didn't want to stand up and say, 451 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 3: oh no, we're not going to prosecute that. So the 452 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 3: prosecutor says yes, and suddenly Hunter Biden's attorney says, I 453 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 3: don't agree, and the whole thing got blown up because 454 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 3: they were trying to do it in secret and hoping 455 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 3: no one would notice. Well, that's very bad for Hunter 456 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 3: and Joe, but it's also very bad for the Biden 457 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,479 Speaker 3: Department of Justice. When the Department of Justice is trying 458 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 3: to play politics and cover up corruption, that's a real problem. 459 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 3: And so what do they do. They immediately turn around 460 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 3: and file yet another indictment against Donald Trump. This one 461 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 3: was what is called a superseding indictment. 462 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: What if you don't understand, So it is essentially. 463 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 3: An updated indictment, so it takes the old indictment in it, 464 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 3: it updates it so it adds a couple of additional counts, 465 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 3: claims of criminal violations. It also adds a new defendant. 466 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 3: So the new defendant is Carlos de Olivera, who worked 467 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 3: at mar A Lago. And the new count is a 468 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 3: obstruction conspiracy count that focuses in particular, en quote, attempting 469 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 3: to delete security footage at mar A Lago to conceal 470 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 3: information from the FBI and grand jury. So the two 471 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 3: pieces that are relevant or a, they added someone new 472 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 3: de Olivera, who along with Nauta, who's the other assistant 473 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 3: to Donald Trump, who is who is indicted in being charged. 474 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 3: What they allege is that de Olivera and now to quote, 475 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 3: loaded several of Trump's boxes along with other items on 476 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 3: aircraft that flew Trump and his family north for the summer. 477 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 3: So de Rivera is alleged to be part of hiding 478 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 3: the classified documents. Look, the addition of a new defendant 479 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 3: that poses some risk because the standard approach for a 480 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 3: prosecutor is to try to focus on the little fish, 481 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 3: to put a lot of heat on the little fish, 482 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 3: get them scared out of their minds, and get them 483 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 3: to flip on the big guy. By the way, just 484 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 3: pause for a second and notice that's exactly what they 485 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,719 Speaker 3: did not do with Hunter Biden and Joe Biden. There 486 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 3: was no effort to put pressure on Hunter Biden and 487 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 3: get him to flip on the big guy. Rather, instead, 488 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 3: according to the IRS whistleblowers, the objective of DOJ was 489 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 3: to prevent anyone from asking about the big guy. They 490 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 3: don't want to know about the big guy. This is 491 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 3: just about Hunter and his drugs. It's has nothing to 492 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 3: do with the millions flowing to Joe Biden. Well, the 493 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 3: reason why de Rivera being added is potentially significant is 494 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 3: what DOJ is going to try to do is lean 495 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 3: on him really hard and cause him to flip against 496 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 3: Donald Trump. I don't know this fellow, I don't know 497 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 3: if he will or not. But that is the consequence 498 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 3: of that. And then the additional allegation that de Rivera 499 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 3: attempted to delete security footage at mar A Lago. That's 500 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 3: a new piece. We don't know what the facts are 501 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 3: behind that deleting security footage to cover something up. That's 502 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 3: that allegation could be problematic. We don't have enough details 503 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 3: from the indictment to know what was on that footage, 504 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 3: why it was being deleted, was it deleted, was the 505 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 3: deletion routine? What To the extent you are actively hiding evidence, 506 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 3: that's called obstruction of justice. And so that's why it 507 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 3: has charged the obstruction of justice. I can tell you 508 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 3: who has charged obstruction of justice, our two career employees 509 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 3: at the IRS who have charged that the Department of 510 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 3: Justice was doing everything they can to cover up evidence, 511 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 3: block witnesses, and prevent the case from being developed. And 512 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 3: so you know, as we said when Dan Goldman went 513 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 3: on TV, but they are doing what the bad guys 514 00:29:55,120 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 3: are doing. They project and charge to everyone else that 515 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 3: they're doing it instead. 516 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 2: The media is certainly freaked out over Donald Trump's comments, 517 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 2: and I want to play those for people and get 518 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 2: your reaction that as well as he fought back, I 519 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 2: think a lot of people say with good reason, he's 520 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 2: fighting back. 521 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: Now. 522 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 2: Let me tell you, though, about something we're going to 523 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 2: be doing that I really want you to know about, 524 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 2: and I hope that you can find the time. 525 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: To be a part of this. 526 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 2: This is going to be an incredible trip with listeners 527 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 2: to verdict in the Holy Land. 528 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: We're talking about Israel. 529 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 2: Israel is the creditle of Judaism, Christianity, and many of 530 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 2: the principles that we hold dear as Americans. And we're 531 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 2: putting together an awesome trip where you're going to get 532 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 2: to see the sites like the Armageddon Battlefield, Nazareth, Jericho, Jerusalem, Bethlehem. 533 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: And that's not all. 534 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 2: You're going to also sail on the Sea of Galilee 535 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 2: and float on the Dead Sea. You'll walk in the 536 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 2: footsteps of biblical figures like King David and Jesus Christ, 537 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 2: and you'll do it all together with other listeners from 538 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 2: around the country. I'm gonna meet you in Jerusalem and 539 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 2: experience with you the city's great sites like the Western Wall, 540 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 2: the Temple Mount and this trip is gonna deepen your 541 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 2: understanding of the Bible and of Western civilization. It's gonna 542 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 2: leave you with friends and memories that will last a lifetime. 543 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 2: You got plenty of time to plan on this trip 544 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 2: because it'll take place May the sixth or the fifteenth 545 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four. How people are signing up fast, 546 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 2: so book your spot now before it's too late. 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Senator, 552 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 2: I want to get your reaction to Donald Trump going 553 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 2: after Jack Smith. 554 00:31:58,480 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: Smarter, bad move. 555 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 2: Just totally obsessed over Donald Trump when he said this 556 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 2: at one of his campaign events. 557 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 8: Oh, this deranged lunatic named Jack Smith, who's been overturned 558 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 8: unanimously by the Supreme Court. He's tried to destroy many laves. 559 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 8: Do you ever see the picture of the guy. It's 560 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 8: like Central casting deranged Jack Smith and the DOJ will 561 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 8: probably bring another. 562 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: Case along with the DA. 563 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 8: We have a racist DA in crime ridden in Atlanta. 564 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 2: I mean, Senator, I don't blame Donald Trump for coming 565 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 2: after Jack Smith this way, also talking about even more 566 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,959 Speaker 2: charges that could be coming in Atlanta. There they're throwing 567 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 2: everything they can in him to make sure he doesn't 568 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 2: have a chance to win. And that's election interference, is 569 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 2: it not? 570 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 3: Well, it is undoubtedly, you know. I'll say, no defense 571 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 3: lawyer on Earth would advise his client to go scorched 572 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 3: to Earth after the prosecutors. But Donald Trump is going 573 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 3: to say and do what he wants, and so he's 574 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 3: one voting on the prosecutors. And I got to say 575 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 3: the substance of what he's saying when you look at 576 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 3: Jack Smith, Trump is right that Smith has a long 577 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 3: record of engaging in partisan prosecutions. He went after Bob MacDonnell, 578 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 3: the sitting Republican governor of Virginia, widely considered a serious 579 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 3: presidential candidate, and he brought charges, He indicted him, he 580 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 3: prosecuted him, and the prosecution blew up in a humiliating way. 581 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 3: It went to the Supreme Court and unanimously by an 582 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 3: eight to zero vote, the Supreme Court throughout jack Smith's 583 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 3: case said that the Department of Justice had overstepped and 584 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 3: had reached far beyond what the law provided. Jack Smith 585 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 3: was also involved in the IRS targeting conservatives under Barack Obama. 586 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 3: Jack Smith's wife is a movie maker who has made 587 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 3: movies praising, just really beatifying Democrats. And so this is 588 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 3: a political player. This is a political player who whose 589 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 3: record leaves real reason to doubt his ability to be nonpartisan. 590 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 3: And we can see his conduct reflects that. This is 591 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 3: absolutely a manifestation not just of Jack Smith. This is 592 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 3: Merrick Garland, and this is Joe Biden. They hate Donald 593 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 3: Trump and they want to use the Department of Justice 594 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 3: to target their enemies. Ironically, it is exactly what Dan 595 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 3: Goldman said on the Sunday Show. That's what they're doing, 596 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 3: is they want to bring more indictments at Donald Trump 597 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 3: than you can shake a stick at. They want to 598 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:40,240 Speaker 3: cost hundreds of millions of dollars of legal defense funds. 599 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 3: They want to just throw so much mud on him 600 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 3: that it weakens him. But mind you, their partisan at 601 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 3: ten is very careful. They want him to get the 602 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 3: Republican nomination, but then be weakened enough that the Democrats 603 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,760 Speaker 3: win in November. I don't believe that's going to happen, 604 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 3: but time will tell and the voters will decide. 605 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a very interesting week. 606 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 2: We're gonna cover it all here on Verdict, so make 607 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 2: sure you hit that follow, subscribe or auto download button 608 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,320 Speaker 2: so that you do not miss any of our episodes 609 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 2: that we do, we'll have the latest, uh to this 610 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 2: Devin Archer. 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