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Speaker 2: You done or no? I've got more? Sure I want

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Speaker 2: But sure, fine, I would say anything today. You go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Nothing matters today.

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Speaker 3: By the way, the show is kicking off with really

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Speaker 3: the topic of nothing matters, because we're going to get

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Speaker 3: into two big extent existential threats.

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Speaker 2: This is big.

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Speaker 3: News why you should just ignore everything else and just

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Speaker 2: The left of it.

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Speaker 3: The big story from the science field is what's probably

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Speaker 3: We will be gobbled up by some dying star. The

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Speaker 3: They spotted a gas planet like Jupiter, but possibly even larger,

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Speaker 2: How about that?

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Speaker 3: You know, now they've decided that this has happened, but

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Speaker 3: I've heard about.

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Speaker 1: This since I was in high school. Oh, because I

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Speaker 1: swallowed up by the Sun. So what does this matter?

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Speaker 2: Do you have to decide?

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Speaker 3: Though we're able to discuss whether or not what happened

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Speaker 2: Well, nobody knows anything.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the odds are against it happening in our lifetimes,

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Speaker 3: The fact that we could see the Northern lights last week,

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Speaker 1: You can just make stuff up? Everybody is I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: But idea to get the people behind you. So those

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the fielding is still that they've got to go

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Speaker 3: Another reason why this country is really now enveloped in

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Speaker 3: Now, speaking of Mexico, we spent a lot of time

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Speaker 2: Nobody gets out of there. But you know, the drug

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Speaker 1: And this is why you have seventy thousand people dying

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Speaker 2: You know, it's so easy for the cartels to do this.

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Speaker 1: According to Mike Vigil, he used to run a department

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the story says this all started when people

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Speaker 3: Very few people go out deliberately looking for fentanyl, and

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Speaker 3: that's something we've talked about over and over again. It's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I should clarify that the cartel cook that makes

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Speaker 1: And they sell them at fifty cents per pill, but

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Speaker 3: And that's the problem because because the narcotic dose of

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Speaker 1: Well, if they're mixing the ingredients in a metal tub

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Speaker 2: Look at that, Look at it's kind of even not.

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Speaker 1: Between August of twenty twenty one and August of twenty

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Speaker 1: seven million fentanyl laced pills were grabbed by the DEA.

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Speaker 1: And that's just a small fraction of what was of

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Speaker 2: No it's not.

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Speaker 3: Fifty seven million was no dent. So we're talking about

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Speaker 3: this family. They call them the Chappedoes, the sons. Chapel's

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Speaker 3: Act one of them is o Vido guz Mode Lopez.

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Speaker 3: His nickname is the Mouse. He actually did get arrested

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Speaker 2: But there's a whole bunch of other ones involved with and.

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Speaker 1: We have thousands of fitinel addicts aligning the beautiful streets

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Speaker 3: They're treating this like it's just poorly addicted people.

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Speaker 2: Though.

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Speaker 3: This is poisoning. This is different, as that security expert

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Speaker 3: They're not trying to buy fentanyl.

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Speaker 1: They're trying to buy opioids, you know, painkillers.

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Speaker 2: That's what they're trying to buy something. We had it wrong.

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Speaker 3: We were calling it od all the odeed from fentanyl.

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Speaker 3: They're being poisoned. Yeah, because they didn't want to ingest fentanyl.

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Speaker 1: Some of the kids think it's riddling or adderall because

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Speaker 3: We had mentioned this story yesterday. It's worth spending some

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Speaker 2: It's a new name, though I don't know that reporter name.

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Speaker 3: Low wages, short hours drive many fast food workers into homelessness.

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Speaker 2: They're getting the main grist.

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Speaker 3: For this story from something called the Economic Roundtable.

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Speaker 2: Is that a lie?

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Speaker 1: Though? I mean the headline is a blatant lie, which

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Speaker 1: fast food companies. No job sends you into homelessness. No

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Speaker 1: job does that. You chose the job. If it doesn't

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Speaker 1: But that's how it always worked, Yeah, and it still

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Speaker 1: Did you say no? Or did you say yes? You

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Speaker 1: totally flummached. This is total horsemen to work. Well, it's

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Speaker 3: They're trying to undo the way things have worked. Other

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Speaker 3: you know, I was thinking about this yesterday, and this

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Speaker 2: And they take the risks.

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Speaker 3: these companies. If you're a low level worker delivering pizzas

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Speaker 3: That's you're easily replaceable. That's not a high skilled job.

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Speaker 3: So no one in the world owes you what you

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Speaker 3: would get completely untenable if we went down this path.

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Speaker 3: But we have to pay people what they need to

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Speaker 1: To deliver pizzas. Of course, nothing explains what happened to him.

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Speaker 1: For the first fifty years he voluntarily goes to Papa John's.

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Speaker 1: They say, okay, we'll give you fifteen dollars an hour, thirty.

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Speaker 2: Hours a week. And now it's it's their fault. What

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Speaker 1: All he's doing is bringing doorbells and saying, pizza man here.

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Speaker 1: And then he was sharing a one bedroom apartment with

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Speaker 1: I'd rather sleep in my Nissan than live with six

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Speaker 2: And then they write.

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Speaker 1: Fast food workers make up eleven percent of all homeless workers. Well,

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Speaker 1: They're homeless, and maybe they've got enough to stand up

440
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Speaker 1: straight and be a pizza delivery guy and they get

441
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Speaker 1: whacked out on drugs the rest of the day.

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Speaker 2: A good point.

443
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 3: Why is the fast food industry of the enemy here,

444
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 3: this particular guy mister Dillontory, with his skills and his experience,

445
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 3: Where else is he going to go work where he's

446
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 3: going to make more than the fifteen dollars an hour

447
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 3: they're paying them. Is there some magic job out there

448
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 3: they would say, Oh, yeah, we'd love to hire you

449
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 3: and pay you thirty bucks an hour. Sure, And don't

450
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Speaker 3: forget the other thing about this. This is what makes

451
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 3: fast food places cheap and why a lot of people

452
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 3: eat there. Not only that it's quick and it's disgustingly

453
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Speaker 3: fat and yummy, but it's also because they're often inexpensive

454
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 3: the meals, so that helps the poor people on the

455
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Speaker 3: other end. And as one guy said, oh, this benefits everybody,

456
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 3: but the workers customers get cheap and efficient meals while

457
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 3: the fast fin companies make billions of dollars annually.

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Speaker 2: Then don't take the job. Don't take the job.

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Speaker 1: Eventually, they're not going to have workers at these fast

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Speaker 1: food restaurants. I said the other day that there's already

461
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Speaker 1: three McDonald's in the country that are entirely automated, not

462
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Speaker 1: a single employee. You have robots and automation creating your food.

463
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Speaker 2: Oh was that right?

464
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Speaker 3: Yeah, people order at kiosks, and then what these carries

465
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Speaker 3: out like conveyor belt or something.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen it. But what about the automats, right,

467
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Speaker 1: I heard a radio news report. It's like they now

468
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: have three fully automated McDonald's and you could see it's

469
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Speaker 1: not that hard if you know. Obviously, I guess somebody's

470
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 1: got to load the patties into the machine and the

471
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Speaker 1: French fries, but all that can be done automatically, just

472
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Speaker 1: like the way factories make processed food right and package them.

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Speaker 2: Oh you could see this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So eventually there's going to be no jobs

475
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Speaker 1: in the fast food industry, let alone minimum wage jobs

476
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Speaker 1: at fifty How did you miss the first fifty years

477
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Speaker 1: of planning and making decisions so you could make more

478
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 1: than fifteen thousand a year. They say that's the average

479
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Speaker 1: median gallery fifteen thousand for cooks, cashiers, food prep workers,

480
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Speaker 1: and dishwashers. You know, many of my friends in high

481
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: school had these jobs. None of us. None of us

482
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Speaker 1: had these jobs by the time we got college. Yeah,

483
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Speaker 1: that was the case with me. My brother worked at

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Speaker 1: McDonald's for a couple of years. Yeah, but he was

485
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Speaker 1: in high school. I remember we had a fast food

486
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Speaker 1: place called Gino's that was a chain back east years ago,

487
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Speaker 1: and several of my friends worked there. And I mean

488
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Speaker 1: then we never sat down and said, wow, you know,

489
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Speaker 1: this is a career here.

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Speaker 2: I love this.

491
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Speaker 1: I love flipping the burgers, shaking the fry basket, taking

492
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Speaker 1: the order.

493
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Speaker 2: Yet this is what No, they went to college.

494
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Speaker 3: Well, one of my friends did both. He went to Collins,

495
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 3: but he worked remember good old roy Rogers Fried Chicken.

496
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he worked.

497
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Speaker 3: There too, but he she became the manager into management, yes, right,

498
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 3: that's where we ran a few of them, and then

499
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,439
Speaker 3: and then eventually ended up owning a Dunkin Donuts on

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Speaker 3: his own.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, owning.

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Speaker 1: It's the franchise, right that, that's the path up if

503
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 1: you want to get into that industry.

504
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 2: But you don't stop at flipping the burgers.

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Speaker 1: You know, you survey the scene and say, okay, I

506
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: can manage this, I can handle employees, I can make

507
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: the system work, and then you put enough money away

508
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: and then okay, I'm gonna buy one of these places.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of executives at these fast mood

511
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: companies started out as low level employees. But good lord,

512
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: I mean I'm just so hat it with this. This

513
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: is total total bull crap, absolute total horse crap.

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Speaker 3: All right, when we come back, we'll take you to

515
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 3: a state that actually endorses and does spend money on

516
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 3: the John Coebelt Plan for the homeless. Find out who

517
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 3: that is and what they're doing. Johnny kenkf I AM

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Speaker 3: six forty live everywhere the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 4: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI

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Speaker 4: AM six forty.

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Speaker 2: Hawaii.

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00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 3: Hawaii has adopted the John Cobel program of dealing with

523
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Speaker 3: the homeless. They're gonna pay homeless people to go back home.

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00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 3: Actually they've been doing this with they have a program

525
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Speaker 3: where they put more money into it. Yeah, they are

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Speaker 3: paying homeless people to go back to the mainland as

527
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Speaker 3: long as they have someone to welcome and house them there.

528
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Speaker 3: But really do you think they follow up on that?

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Speaker 3: Can I send somebody from Hawaii to the state of

530
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Speaker 3: Texas or New York or and check on whether or

531
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Speaker 3: not the homeless person that they paid to send back

532
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 3: there has somebody that's welcoming them and housing them there.

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine. I can't imagine they'd care.

534
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I've just put them on the plane If

535
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Speaker 1: they're gonna want to make their way back, you got

536
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Speaker 1: they got to work for it.

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Speaker 3: I think that's in practicality what happens. They just put

538
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Speaker 3: them on the plane. The Hawaii Back Plan is to

539
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 3: provide one hundred thousand dollars in airfare over each of

540
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Speaker 3: the next two fiscal years to send homeless people back

541
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Speaker 3: to the mainland. It says here that apparently. It says oh,

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00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 3: it belies the persistent urban legend that Hawaii's homeless population

543
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Speaker 3: is driven by cities, counties, and state governments on the

544
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 3: mainland that send their homeless people to the islands.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that's true.

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Speaker 3: I was in Hawaii back into the end of twenty

547
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Speaker 3: twenty one, and I did see a number of homeless people,

548
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Speaker 3: particularly on Owahu.

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Speaker 2: And they didn't look Hawaiian to me. Yes, that's the thing.

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00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 2: They didn't look Native Hawaiian to me at all.

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Speaker 3: They were a bunch of grungy looking white guys, all

552
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 3: dirty drug addlets, scrambling. I was kind of shocked, but

553
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 3: then I thought, well, it's homeless people all over southern California.

554
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 2: No one thought that would be the case.

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Speaker 1: Tenlure, you just you gott to beg for enough money

556
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: to buy a flight and then you're there and.

557
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, or somebody sends you there.

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Speaker 3: That's the claim here. They think that New York State

559
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Speaker 3: is doing this.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure they are.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of this going on because

562
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Speaker 1: who wants to put up with this? You can't fix

563
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: these people. The addictions are not fixable, and the mental

564
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: illness is not fixable. If you have somebody who legitimately

565
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: just their expenses exceeded their income for a time, and

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Speaker 1: you know they're they double the rent in their building, right,

567
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: something like that, those people will sort out their life.

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Speaker 1: They'll make rational decisions. They'll find somebody to live with

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Speaker 1: for a time. They'll get a better job that pays more.

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Speaker 1: Going back to that story we had had before about

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Speaker 1: fast food doesn't pay so little, you know, ten percent

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Speaker 1: of the fast food workers are almost.

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Speaker 2: Most people don't end up that way.

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Speaker 1: They make rational decisions to get out of those situations.

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Speaker 2: And I look with my own eyes.

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Speaker 1: I don't need any senses, any statistics, any research done.

577
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: I look with my own eyes in the streets. I

578
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: know there's ten million jobs, ten million jobs out there

579
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Speaker 1: that are unfilled. I know the unemployment rate is ridiculously low,

580
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Speaker 1: like three and a half percent. So if there's ten

581
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: million jobs, the unemployment rate is three and a half percent.

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Speaker 1: And I'm looking at a guy with crazy, bugged out eyes,

583
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: no pants, wild hair, He's waving his arms. I'm saying,

584
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Speaker 1: you know, there's no reheab program that fixes this.

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Speaker 2: This is not a guy dote on his look.

586
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: This is a guy who got either screwed up with

587
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: drugs or he's got a biological deteriorating brain disorder. Beginning

588
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: and end of the story. So I don't have to

589
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: pay for his mess. I have no compassion for this.

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Speaker 3: Now, in Hawaii, it looks like they actually do this.

591
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 3: Several organizations do this together. Not only is the government

592
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 3: paying for this, The Hawaii Lodging and to Tourism Association

593
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 3: works with something called the Institute for Human Services, which

594
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 3: operates Hawaii's biggest homeless shelters. They all work together on

595
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 3: trying to get the homeless people back to the mainland.

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Speaker 3: But you know, it's pretty simple. You talk to a

597
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,479
Speaker 3: guy and he does admit to youa you know, I'm

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Speaker 3: from Florida, all right, Well, you know you've got any

599
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 3: relatives there, anybody we can call, and I imagine they

600
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 3: do make an effort to find somebody in Florida that

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Speaker 3: you know, so at least you know what town or

602
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 3: city to fly you to. I think we both decided this.

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00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 3: They don't follow up. Once he puts you on the plane,

604
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 3: that's the end of that. Guy gets off the plane.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he goes back to his to his parents, or

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00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: you're thinking, he can't afford to come back to Hawaii again, right, Okay,

607
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: so you.

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Speaker 2: Know he'll end up sleeping somewhere there where he came from.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna take a while, it's gonna be a hassle.

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Speaker 3: One legislator actually spent money from his own pocket to

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Speaker 3: send more than fifty homeless people back to the mainland

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Speaker 3: and their family.

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Speaker 2: State Representative John Mazzuno.

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Speaker 1: And he's the one who thinks that the politicians in

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Speaker 1: New York are dumping the vagrants in Hawaii.

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Speaker 2: Well, I said this to somebody the other day.

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Speaker 3: I was walking with We have a laundromat in town, right,

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Speaker 3: and you walk by because I go they're offering.

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Speaker 2: There's some restaurants nearby. It's public. Laundromats are not.

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Speaker 3: They're often seting places, right, Yeah, I know what is

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Speaker 3: the way to put it right? This one, you know,

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Speaker 3: well it's a little better than most put There's been

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Speaker 3: a woman in there. I can't tell you how many

624
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 3: months she she's actually in a wheelchair, which is kind

625
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 3: of said, a heavy woman. And she sits there at

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Speaker 3: a counter on the laundromat, and apparently she's there all

627
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Speaker 3: day and night because she's sleeping.

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Speaker 2: Just the other day went in there, looked around.

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Speaker 3: There's nobody in there, and they put up a little

630
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Speaker 3: piece of tape on the wall. No loitering, no soliciting.

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Speaker 3: My point of this story is they got rid of her.

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Speaker 3: She did it for months. They probably got to talk

633
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Speaker 3: with her a few times, but they figured out something

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Speaker 3: to get rid of her. Now, whether or not they

635
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 3: took her and wheeled her to downtown La, to skid Row,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. But that is the quiet truth as

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Speaker 3: to how communities deal with homelessness.

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Speaker 2: Rather than all the nonsense.

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Speaker 3: That LA puts up with and allows and doesn't do

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Speaker 3: anything about and then just talks about spending more money,

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00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 3: these other communities find a way to get that person

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00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 3: somewhere else. Well, that's actually gonna shelter it on. Maybe

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00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 3: she ended up in a nice place. I can know,

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00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 3: LA decided.

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00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 2: Could thoughts about it to.

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Speaker 1: Create a high paying industry. This was a job creation

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Speaker 1: plan that they put together for this homeless stuff. They

648
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Speaker 1: sold it with compassion work to help our unhoused neighbors

649
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: all that Garsetti rot. No, what it was is it

650
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: was a job creation machine and they created thousands and

651
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: thousands of nonprofit jobs to help the homeless, except nobody

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00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: actually got help. It attracted more, but that made the

653
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: machine even bigger. You could have more nonprofits who hire

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00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: more people, who make more money. That's the model here.

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Speaker 1: You have to attack the whole premise. I don't think

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Speaker 1: there's more than a few people a handful of people

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Speaker 1: in the whole homeless industry who give a rats ass

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Speaker 1: about any of the homeless.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they care.

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Speaker 1: I think like Andy Bales might be one of the exceptions,

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Speaker 1: and some of the people who work with work for him,

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Speaker 1: But most of these nonprofits they don't care. And just

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Speaker 1: makes me nuts that everybody plays along. Oh, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: they all these people care, they run these compassionate agencies.

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Speaker 1: No you're not trying to help.

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Speaker 2: No, you're not. You know you're not. You're just stilling

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Speaker 2: tax money so good.

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Speaker 3: Rat Bails is one of the few people that calls

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Speaker 3: it like it really is somebody who's actually involved in

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Speaker 3: the front end from the Union rescue, Union Rescue mission.

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Speaker 3: I mean, read his stuff, listen to our interviews with him.

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Speaker 3: Pubably the only person we can find from that part

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Speaker 3: of the homeless industrial complex.

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Speaker 2: But that gets it.

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's anybody else we've ever talked to,

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Speaker 3: maybe a couple of politicians.

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Speaker 1: Because he genuinely wants to help. That's his nature. He's

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Speaker 1: a reverend, right, He really is that guy. And the

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Speaker 1: rest of them, it's just another business. It is like

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Speaker 1: selling fast food for them, or shoes or any other product.

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Speaker 1: They're just selling. They're profiting off the system. They don't

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Speaker 1: care about. Otherwise we would not have we would not

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Speaker 1: have thousands of people dying in the streets every year.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: When we return, Alex Stone, ABC News will be back

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Speaker 3: on the show. He was on a couple of days

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Speaker 3: with us a couple of days ago to talk about

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Speaker 3: the Texas murder suspect. The man that apparently was firing

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Speaker 3: off a gun in his backyard. His neighbors told him

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Speaker 3: to stop. It was disturbing them, he went over there

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Speaker 3: and killed five of them. Well, they caught him last

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Speaker 3: night in a laundry basket, hiding under a pilo laundry

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Speaker 3: and a cloak, and they've arrested other people too.

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