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Speaker 1: the Lakers postgame space. This is going to be events

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Speaker 1: sash for all of you guys. Um it has been

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Speaker 1: a rough week, to say the least. You probably couldn't

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Speaker 1: script the worst string of events to happen to a

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Speaker 1: But that's what we're here for, so that you guys

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Speaker 1: I don't know about you, rog. Yeah, I mean that's

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Speaker 1: what we're here for, to look for the silver linings.

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Speaker 1: I guess there's not that many, but yeah, we can

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Speaker 1: try to find some, I guess. So immediately off the

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Speaker 1: bad one of the things I noticed with that game

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Speaker 1: was the Lakers were just not quite as sharp defensively.

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Speaker 1: The clip Is are a really good jump shooting team.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I'm not sure exactly the best way to

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Speaker 1: but I think they're the I think they're the very

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Speaker 1: And then they're one of the best catch and shoot

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Speaker 1: jump shooting teams in the league, if I remember correctly,

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Speaker 1: and just all sorts of open shots all over the floor.

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Speaker 1: I remember at one point I even tweeted about it,

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Speaker 1: and then immediately out of the time out, they gave

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Speaker 1: up back to back wide open threes uh uh, just

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Speaker 1: there was a little bit of lack of belief. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you felt that today, but it kind

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Speaker 1: of felt like the Lakers didn't think they could win,

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Speaker 1: and I think it kind of sucked the wind out

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Speaker 1: of their sales a little bit when it came to

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Speaker 1: like the sharpness and the extra effort plays and stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: for sure. I mean the Clippers make it tough. I

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Speaker 1: think they're like the best shooting team ever by like percentage.

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Speaker 1: I think just as a full team, they have a

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Speaker 1: at um and like just our plan wasn't right, Like

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Speaker 1: they were having a d post up against MARKI Morris

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Speaker 1: with Andre Drummond uh also in the game, right, and

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Speaker 1: there's just no room for a D to drive, and

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Speaker 1: they're they're loading that strong side and just daring our

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Speaker 1: shooters to make shots. And like my problem with this game,

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Speaker 1: I guess we can kind of get into it. I

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Speaker 1: shot creation. And we talked about this all the time.

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Speaker 1: The Clippers are a team that ball pressure you, that

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Speaker 1: make it really tough. Um you saw you saw the

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Speaker 1: first catch for a D was at half court, which

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Speaker 1: I thought was kind of ominous of how the game was.

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Speaker 1: It was gonna go right Markey Morris was really denying

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Speaker 1: there was no reason for Tress to be up against

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Speaker 1: which is another issue, but Cousins bullied him downlow. And

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Speaker 1: thought Cousins got into rhythm early. Reggie Jackson got a

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Speaker 1: was a lot of un serious, a lot of lineups

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Speaker 1: that like, I don't think we'll play when it matters,

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Speaker 1: Like we had Ben mclimore, Markey Moore, Is Montrez Harrold

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Speaker 1: But when you put him against the big, bruising center,

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Speaker 1: lot of times where and you know, I tweeted this earlier,

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Speaker 1: But he's he's kind of limited as a primary initiator.

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Speaker 1: He's not a great ball handler. He's great for what

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Speaker 1: through the like like two enormous heights. But this, this

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Speaker 1: I think almost that the whole second quarter he was

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Speaker 1: like even with him, he's not a percent you could tell,

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Speaker 1: his jumper has to be going for it to work, right.

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Speaker 1: I think it was two for nine tonight. Um he had.

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Speaker 1: But like, just for some positive I thought Mark starting,

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Speaker 1: Mind you, the Clippers were probably floating through a little

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Speaker 1: the Marcus All Minutes is you know, like like you said,

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Speaker 1: like we can't even properly evaluate the Marcus Alo Minutes

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Speaker 1: And the Clippers are like really long at every position, right,

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Speaker 1: like and you lose the games and you're resting players

430
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Speaker 1: and that's fine, but just going after it, I think

431
00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,680
Speaker 1: it is a totally different kind of thing. Uh. Actively

432
00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,199
Speaker 1: losing to get into this to avoid a team just

433
00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,840
Speaker 1: feel like the wrong thought process, especially for the defending champions, right,

434
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Speaker 1: Like they should not be losing to avoid a team

435
00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:44,919
Speaker 1: like that. I don't think that, and I don't think

436
00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,800
Speaker 1: they are, Like, in my opinion, they just the way

437
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Speaker 1: that they're yeah, just the way that they're acting doesn't

438
00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,040
Speaker 1: feel like they fear any of these teams in any

439
00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,320
Speaker 1: kind of different different manner. Even though we as fans

440
00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,800
Speaker 1: probably put Clippers UM in a different kind of tier

441
00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,560
Speaker 1: than like Utah, UM, Denver and and the Signs. You

442
00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,240
Speaker 1: feel like the Lakers kind of just see all those

443
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Speaker 1: teams in the same way should I start, Should I

444
00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:07,720
Speaker 1: start bringing some people up for it? All right, let's

445
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Speaker 1: start with so get your request, and we're gonna try

446
00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,919
Speaker 1: to get to as many people as we as we can. Tonight,

447
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Speaker 1: Let's start with Jakey can what's going on, man? How's

448
00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,560
Speaker 1: it going good? How are you not too bad? How

449
00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:38,520
Speaker 1: are you Fellas doing? We're doing good man? Man? Okay,

450
00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:43,440
Speaker 1: So I mean I think everyone can agree. Realistically, this

451
00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,720
Speaker 1: is kind of a carbon copy of every single Lebron

452
00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,520
Speaker 1: season from the past decade, where people kind of freak

453
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Speaker 1: out either at the beginning or the end of the

454
00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:56,560
Speaker 1: regular season, and they see trends that kind of destroy

455
00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,560
Speaker 1: them from thinking that whatever team he's on is going

456
00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,880
Speaker 1: to have way off success. But nevertheless, he always ends

457
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,200
Speaker 1: to show up. So I guess my question is, if

458
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Speaker 1: there is hypothetically a series with the Clippers, would you

459
00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:14,880
Speaker 1: see Vogel going with Gasol mostly or would you see

460
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,560
Speaker 1: him going with Drummond mostly to kind of clog up

461
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Speaker 1: the paint? Knowing how playoff basketball is just it's a

462
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,159
Speaker 1: different environment because I know that Drumm is getting a

463
00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,439
Speaker 1: lot of hate right now and some of it is warranted,

464
00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,959
Speaker 1: but at the same time, simultaneously, I think that in

465
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Speaker 1: the playoffs he can be an advantage for the Lakers

466
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Speaker 1: because he can take up that space in the paint

467
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Speaker 1: and take away opportunities for Wings to just get in

468
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:51,440
Speaker 1: there easily and get easy buckets, don't go first rush. Yeah. Sure,

469
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Speaker 1: so I've said all along, like I feel like Drumming

470
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Speaker 1: is really matchup depending, Like I've kind of compared him

471
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Speaker 1: to like Debail from last year, and that's how I

472
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Speaker 1: maybe that's just wish thinking, that's just how I see

473
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Speaker 1: it going in in a playoff series versus the Clippers. Like,

474
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Speaker 1: I'm just not sure how much Drumming can play if

475
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Speaker 1: he's gonna start. I just think zoo back is a

476
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,919
Speaker 1: really tough matchup for him. We saw it tonight. He

477
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,119
Speaker 1: had really no impact um in that first half, and

478
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 1: they don't respect him on the role at all, and

479
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 1: they're just too good. They have too many good health

480
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,200
Speaker 1: defenders there. Makes it really makes life really tough for

481
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis um if he's trying to get any room.

482
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 1: And just imagine because lebron A d and drum and

483
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 1: against the Clippers, I think that's just a really tough matchup.

484
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,200
Speaker 1: I would like I would like a Saul out there

485
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Speaker 1: to bring a little bit more spacing and just smarts

486
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Speaker 1: out there. And I think he can bring subach out

487
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 1: of the paint and it really opens up driving things

488
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Speaker 1: for a guy like Lebron. And in that series, I

489
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Speaker 1: think that's an a d at the five series anyway,

490
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Speaker 1: Like I think it's all is gonna play, But that's

491
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Speaker 1: a D at the five series for me. What about you, Jason? Yeah, So,

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Speaker 1: first of all, Jake, respectfully, I disagree. This isn't like

493
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Speaker 1: any Lebron season that I can remember watching. And the

494
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Speaker 1: reason why. It's like if the Lakers were playing crap

495
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Speaker 1: basketball but they were healthy, I would be the first

496
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 1: guy screaming from the mountaintops to stop we're because I've

497
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,639
Speaker 1: seen that plenty with Lebron James teams, and I know

498
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Speaker 1: the difference between the team that's not trying in a

499
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,439
Speaker 1: team that you know lacks the personality and the job done. Um,

500
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,199
Speaker 1: that's the difference is it's just they're they're literally not

501
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 1: healthy and they have almost no continuity. That's the That's

502
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 1: what kind of makes it super fuzzy. And there have been,

503
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 1: you know, Lebron teams that have had injuries in the past,

504
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Speaker 1: whether it's Kevin Love being out for a little while

505
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Speaker 1: or or Kyrie Irving when he had his fractured kneecap,

506
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Speaker 1: and you know, d Wade missed a bunch of time

507
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Speaker 1: in two thousand fourteen. But the jis to the team,

508
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 1: the primary engine, which was Lebron James doing Lebron stuff

509
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Speaker 1: and then a ton of shooting and defense and all

510
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Speaker 1: that stuff that that has been missing for the you

511
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Speaker 1: know what is that twenty two of the last twenty

512
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Speaker 1: four games. So it's just I do think that there's

513
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Speaker 1: a distinct difference there. That doesn't mean you should necessarily panic,

514
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Speaker 1: but I don't think I don't think that. I don't

515
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Speaker 1: think that we should be sitting here with our chest

516
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 1: puffed out acting like everything's fine, because it's definitely not. Um,

517
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 1: as far as the gasal stuff goes, we should take

518
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 1: year as a queue. UM. He did eventually go away

519
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 1: from McGee, and he did eventually play a lot of

520
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 1: Caruso eventually started him in Game six of the NBA Finals,

521
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Speaker 1: but his tendency to stick with it a little bit

522
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Speaker 1: longer than the fan base is comfortable with. So my

523
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Speaker 1: guess is, let's say you're in a Clipper series and

524
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: Drummonds playing a lot and it looks ugly and there's

525
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 1: obvious signs that Cassall should be playing. I do believe

526
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Speaker 1: Frank will eventually make the move. I just don't think

527
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Speaker 1: he'll make it right away. I think he'll make a

528
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 1: sweat a little bit. But Frank has shown that he's

529
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Speaker 1: not afraid to make an adjustment. I mean, even in

530
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 1: this game tonight, he waited until Montrez got bullied into

531
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 1: you know, like literally into oblivion, but he did eventually

532
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Speaker 1: make the adjustment. So I do I do think. I

533
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Speaker 1: do think that the adjustment will be made. I just

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if it was, you know, game three,

535
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Speaker 1: Game four of the playoff series. As much as I

536
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 1: love Shrewder, do you see the Lakers going with Gassol

537
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Speaker 1: a lot more in the playoffs just for playing baking

538
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Speaker 1: purposes instead of well, no, not instead of Shooter, just

539
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 1: because of their lack of a true point guards. I mean,

540
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 1: I mean Rondo last year. I mean, I'm not saying

541
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 1: he was like point god, but at the same time,

542
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 1: he at least was able to kind of facilitate. And

543
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 1: I can't say I'm not saying Shooter can't facilitate, because

544
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 1: he can, but he does typically kind of go for

545
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 1: like that pick and roll, like either I'm going to

546
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 1: make a move where I'm going to score first. So

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Speaker 1: I'm just curious. Do you think that Vogel would go

548
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Speaker 1: with Gasol more just for playmaking purposes, because we know

549
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Speaker 1: that Gasol can kind of play from the top of

550
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: the key and pass it. I think in general kind

551
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: of similar to the chemistry that Rondo and Lebron had

552
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: last year, even and you know that it was really

553
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 1: ugly for the most part during the regular season when

554
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Speaker 1: Lebron and Rondo were on the floor together, because it

555
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 1: was very you know, uh, it was very It just

556
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 1: they were redundant and what they brought to the table.

557
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: But like you know, with Marc Asol, it unlocks a

558
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: lot of Lebron off ball stuff, which I think, you know,

559
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: he used a lot with Dwyane Wade but didn't use

560
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: a lot in Cleveland, and and that Rondo unlocked a lot,

561
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: especially in the NBA Finals. If you watched there's a

562
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: lot of really good clips of Brondo and Lebron playing

563
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: off of each other pretty well. I definitely think that

564
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: that that Marcusol brings that, But my guess is that

565
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 1: the decision is going to be really simple. I think hope,

566
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Speaker 1: like I saw as a matter of spacing, I think

567
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 1: that I think against I think against the Clippers and

568
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: against any defense that's gonna load up aside as they

569
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Speaker 1: post up Lebron or post up Anthony Davis. I think eventually,

570
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 1: just after incessant film, they're gonna look at the tape

571
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: and see the obvious fact that the driving lanes aren't there,

572
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 1: and they're gonna have to make an adjustment. I think

573
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Speaker 1: that's gonna be what ends up being the driving force

574
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: behind the decision. Yeah, well we forgive that that's starting

575
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 1: lineup with Like Gasol was like one and six before

576
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: any one out and they were like, yeah, they were

577
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: really great. So I hopefully they get back to that

578
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: along with Shooter. But they didn't really get the reps

579
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Speaker 1: this this this year. Jake. I appreciate you coming up. Mhm,

580
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 1: let's go ahead, yo, Joe are you there? Are you there? Hey? Yeah?

581
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys allowing me to answer ask the question. Hey, hey,

582
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,719
Speaker 1: nothing much, man, nothing much, just real quick, you know,

583
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Speaker 1: I understand, you know, with all the injuries and everything,

584
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: but man, every time, it seems like every time the Lakers,

585
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: this iteration of the Lakers when they play the Clippers,

586
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: they just seemed tentative in terms of body language and

587
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: overall it just they just don't like have that Vogel swag,

588
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 1: you know. West Matthews looked like he came to compete

589
00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: Kuzma mc lamore. Other than that, every onbody else just

590
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: see even with a D they just seemed tentative when

591
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 1: playing the Clippers. I don't understand it. It's almost like

592
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 1: they're kind of timidated. I just need to know if

593
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: anybody else sees that. I see that every time they

594
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: play the Clippers. Go ahead. Uh well, I mean I

595
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: feel like the take the Clippers really take it out

596
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: of them right like client PG really do. We saw

597
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: at Ring Night as well. Um, they feel like there

598
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: was a lot more like he on this matchup last year,

599
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: right before both teams kind of got their rings. And

600
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 1: we saw that in the March in the March game

601
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 1: before COVID kind of shut the season down. And we

602
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 1: also saw it that first game in the Bubble where

603
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: both teams were really hard from at each other. But

604
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: after that, um, it really feels like the intensity of

605
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 1: these games just have not have not been at a

606
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 1: playoff level or the or the level like the hype

607
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: should be with these two teams, and the stars have

608
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: been out right. I think we've had three games where

609
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: all four of the All Stars have played UM in

610
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 1: this matchup all I think all those things go together,

611
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 1: and I think that's why hopefully we get a playoff

612
00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: series of this, I think it will be different. I

613
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 1: think teams will be going full throttle. UM. Not saying

614
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 1: the Lakers would absolutely win, but it just feels like

615
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: tonight they just did not go out go out there

616
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,959
Speaker 1: full full, full potential here. And I don't know if

617
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 1: it's like they're going soft on the clip I don't

618
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 1: think so. The Clipers are a really good team, Like

619
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: they create good shots. UM, they have to really star

620
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: wings who give the Lakers problems. I don't think that's

621
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,239
Speaker 1: an accident that client PG kind of play well. So

622
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: that's how I see it. How about you, Jason, Yeah, So,

623
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: like this kind of was a topic of conversation in

624
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: the last couple of days, just surrounding this quote unquote

625
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: rivalry rivalry between these two teams, that there has been

626
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: no rivalry because it's been destroyed by circumstance. The games

627
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: that I think, if I'm not mistaken, there's only been

628
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: what four games that all four played in, or three

629
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: games that all four played in, and it was basically

630
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: the Christmas Day game where the Lakers basically for the

631
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: better team for forty six minutes and then blew it

632
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: at the end. And then then there was the game

633
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: right before the end of the right before the the

634
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: COVID shutdown, where Lebron went crazy and uh and they

635
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: beat them. And then there was a game to start

636
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: the bubble where the Lakers beat them, and then there

637
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: was Trophy Night that was basically those are basically the

638
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: healthy iterations of this matchup. It's been all destroyed by

639
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: COVID and injuries and all this stuff. I did at

640
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: one point after the Christmas matchup, I think that maybe

641
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: there was a little bit of a mental advantage that

642
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Speaker 1: the Clippers had. I used to tweet a lot about

643
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: it for those of you followed me back then, but

644
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: I I thought that Lebron resoundingly ended that with the

645
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: with the takedown right before the COVID shutdown, like that

646
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: was a pretty uh demonstrative win for the Lakers, you know,

647
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: to cap off a game where they had just beaten

648
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Speaker 1: the Bucks to Um, you know, so I don't. I

649
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: don't think there's any mental advantage. To Roger's point, there's

650
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: just a bad matchup for the Lakers in the sense

651
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: that even though that, even though the Lakers are a

652
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: better team, and it pretty consistently showed that over the

653
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Speaker 1: last two years, with exception of injuries, that even even

654
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Speaker 1: in spite of that, the Clippers are going to always

655
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Speaker 1: compete with them because they present matchup advantages. And that's

656
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Speaker 1: why I've always said that they're the team that's most

657
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Speaker 1: likely to be the Lakers, but it won't be because

658
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: of some you know, mental advantage. In my opinion, I

659
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Speaker 1: think the Lakers have had enough success against this team,

660
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Speaker 1: uh in their matchups that there's no reason for them

661
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: to be scared. It's not like some Clippers Warriors thing

662
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: like you used to see when the Warriors were at

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Speaker 1: their peak and the Clippers used to just get blown

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Speaker 1: out every time they play. Okay, Also one more question, um,

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Speaker 1: do you guys see them if they If they do

666
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Speaker 1: in fact play the Clippers, will Westby used a lot

667
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Speaker 1: more in that series you think in terms of because

668
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: he just seems to be very active on defense. I

669
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: know this shot is inconsistent, but I just like it

670
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: approach when especially when um body and what Kauai and PG.

671
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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna play a ton of that matchup.

672
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: I think that that's the matchup for Wes Matthews, and

673
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Speaker 1: I think I think you'll see plenty of them. And

674
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Speaker 1: I think that Vogel knows that. Yeah, for sure, I agree. Thanks,

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Speaker 1: Thanks Ryan? Are you there? Yeah, I'm everybody. How are

676
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: you doing, guys? Good? Good? Hey, I'm just gonna piggyback

677
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: on Joe and then, like you know, basically, I see, like,

678
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Speaker 1: you know, the last two years of playing you know,

679
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: the Clippers, you guys, hear me, I'm sorry, hear okay, cool, cool? Sorry, Yeah,

680
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Speaker 1: the last two years of playing the Clippers. I mean,

681
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Speaker 1: you know, we did play. In my opinion, we played timid,

682
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: you know, the first few games, like the first year

683
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: when PG was out. We should have warned that guarantee,

684
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Speaker 1: you know, and then we really showed up in the

685
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Speaker 1: last two games. I loved it. But you know, it

686
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: seems like, you know, the Clippers do have a mathup

687
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: problem with us. But I mean, you know, with us,

688
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not sure if you guys agree with

689
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: me or not, but then you know, we just gotta

690
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: beat them up inside. I just don't feel that they

691
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: had the big to compete against us. But then again,

692
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Speaker 1: Drumming right now, just gotta figure out his role with

693
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Speaker 1: the team. He needs to just play with a role. Man.

694
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Speaker 1: It seems like every time and Anthony Davis got the ball,

695
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: he's trying to get get a post. I was like, man,

696
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: get the hell out of the way. It's the trade

697
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: off the Lakers have made. I mean, you know, I

698
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: talked about this a lot with Warriors Twitter because they're

699
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: always so frustrated about spacing and everything associated with with

700
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Speaker 1: what they're doing with Steff. But you know, their management

701
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: made a decision that they were going to prioritize defense

702
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: at the expensive offense because they thought that they had

703
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: a better chance of competing if they defended at an

704
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Speaker 1: extremely high level and let Steph have a harder job.

705
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Speaker 1: But think that would be able to make enough happen

706
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Speaker 1: around the margins that they would win games. And for

707
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Speaker 1: the record, I think they've been right. I mean, given

708
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Speaker 1: the amount of talent on that team, for them to

709
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Speaker 1: be the eight seed is pretty remarkable in in this

710
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: ridiculously stacked West, especially when you look at the talent

711
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Speaker 1: level on some of the teams below them in the standings. Uh.

712
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,479
Speaker 1: And you know that that's basically what the Lakers have said. Now,

713
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Speaker 1: some of this I think is Anthony Davis and what

714
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Speaker 1: he wants. Um. But the Lakers are prioritizing size at

715
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Speaker 1: the expense of spacing and hopes that it will physically

716
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Speaker 1: wear teams down and and be something that is advantageous

717
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Speaker 1: in a playoff series. Now, as I've told Raj a

718
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: bunch of times in our podcast, like, I think the

719
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: irony there is that, Like I think the Lakers where

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Speaker 1: themselves out physically a lot on the offensive end with

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Speaker 1: the lack of space, and so I personally think it's

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Speaker 1: a tactical error. I would I think the only center

723
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Speaker 1: that should play is Marcasol because he allows the Lakers

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Speaker 1: to have spacing on the offensive end while still having

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Speaker 1: that big physical presence on the defensive end. Uh. Because

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00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: I think I think Anthony Davis tricks himself into thinking

727
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,479
Speaker 1: that if he can avoid banging bodies on the defensive end,

728
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Speaker 1: it will save his legs but then he goes down

729
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Speaker 1: on the offensive end, and he's playing in a crowd

730
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: all day and he's taking just as many bumps and

731
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Speaker 1: bruises on the offensive end. So I think, I personally

732
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: think it's a tactical error. I just think that's the

733
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Speaker 1: decision they're making, a prioritizing size at the expensive spacing

734
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Speaker 1: and hope in hopes of of wearing teams out. And

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Speaker 1: it's clear that that's what that's what Anthony Davis wants, right.

736
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Speaker 1: He does not want to read in the center. And

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Speaker 1: I think the problem is like the difference this year

738
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Speaker 1: because Anthony Davis played before a lot last year too.

739
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: It's just Jabille at least in Jabille and Dwight, or

740
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: at least like Lobb spacing right like vertical spacers. But

741
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,720
Speaker 1: Drummond doesn't give you that either, so it takes away

742
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: even more space. It's even more tighter for him to drive,

743
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 1: like there's no room. Um he's trying to hand off

744
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: in the painted Drummonds and then Drummond has to like

745
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: catch it, hold in and try to go up and

746
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Speaker 1: draw about. And again I'm not trying to blame on

747
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: your drumming here, he's not in the best um scenario. Either,

748
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: he's not like he's playing with Lebron James a bunch.

749
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Speaker 1: But that's just what's going on here. Like that's where

750
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: the spacing is really tough. And it's why I just

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Speaker 1: think in the playoffs, like Bogo is watching all these

752
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: games just like us. Let's just I just can't see

753
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: a way that he's gonna play huge minutes um when

754
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: it matters. Maybe maybe with Lebron and looks different, just

755
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 1: if they can switch everything be very physical, run, get

756
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: out and run, which they're not doing right now either.

757
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,479
Speaker 1: They just don't have the ball handling Tom to push

758
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 1: the ball the way that they want to with Lebron,

759
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: So maybe that changes. Thing is just the way I

760
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: sear right now, like the spacing is. For now, it's

761
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: a regular season thing. It's him to eat, eat innings

762
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: to to bang with body so Anthony Davis doesn't have to.

763
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: And you can see Anthony Davis still getting hurt here.

764
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: But that's obviously the plan here is for a dy

765
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: to kind of rest and be able to relax through

766
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: these regular season games and then the spacing will, hopefully

767
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: will will correct itself in the playoffs when we sold

768
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: all those minutes and and uh and drumming gets a

769
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: little bit less and eight is at the five there

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Speaker 1: where he can kind of operate more in the paint.

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00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I agree, yeah, No, like I agree to.

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00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: I mean, like, you know, I see Anthony Davis, you know,

773
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: he wants to maintain his body throughout the post to

774
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Speaker 1: the post season and stuff like that. You know, you know,

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00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,919
Speaker 1: it would be great to see Drummond, you know, kind

776
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 1: of play that gavel Dwight roll and kind of get

777
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: the hell out of his way. But you know, I

778
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: think he kind of sees himself at the same focal point.

779
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: But you know, changing off topic, like, honestly, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of hoping we're in the seven sam for

781
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: a seed, preferably a C, because I don't see the

782
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: Suns or Utah even matching up with us. I think

783
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: it's honestly, it's a six game at most easy out,

784
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Speaker 1: you know, and we might we probably will get a

785
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: good pick out of it. To be honestly, I don't

786
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: really want to see the Clippers in the first round

787
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: because in you know, we've kind of played tentative towards them.

788
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: We don't play with that edge towards them, even towards

789
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:46,919
Speaker 1: the like, you know, the last seven games we played

790
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: with them the last two seasons, so it might be

791
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: kind of beneficial. I don't see, you know, in the

792
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: play ins. I don't see Memphis beating us, obviously. I

793
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 1: don't see the Warriors beating us, because you know what,

794
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: I'm in the Bay Area and I talked to the

795
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: Warrior fans all the time. We're just bigger human beings.

796
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: You know, give the ball to a D. What are

797
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 1: you gonna do a Draymond? I don't care your defensive

798
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: player year. You're a smaller human being. I'm a back

799
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: up on you, and I'm gonna throw lobs all day.

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Speaker 1: Get the hell out of my way. And that's the

801
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 1: argument I have all the time. We're big things against

802
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 1: the Warriors. We're gonna you know, the Memphis and Memphis

803
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: Grizzlies is John Morant motor. We're gonna beat you guys

804
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: up inside and we're gonna take you guys out. I

805
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: like your optimism, Appreciate you Ryan. Some similar people up here,

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00:37:47,920 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: see yo, Bret, are you there? Yeah, I'm here. This

807
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 1: is my first time on spaces, so U don't mess

808
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: it up. And mute myself. Okay, my question is about um,

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Speaker 1: when Lebron presumably does end up coming back and Shrewder

810
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: comes back, I think that in order to preserve Lebron's legs,

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Speaker 1: I think with it, they should send him to the

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Speaker 1: post more and sort of let Shrewder be that Lebron

813
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: off the dribble facilitator, because obviously Lebron can facilitate from

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Speaker 1: the post. I was learning what we're thinking of that

815
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Speaker 1: of letting Lebron play off the ball in the post

816
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: a lot more um when he comes back. So I

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00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: tend to think that I've actually put a lot of

818
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: thought into this ever since that article came out from

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00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: what was talking about how he was feeling pain when

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00:38:55,560 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: he was cutting um. You know, the post is the

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00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: area for him that he least needs his mobility and

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00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: he most needs his strength, and it's also one of

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Speaker 1: the areas, in my opinion, where he passes the ball

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Speaker 1: the best. So I tend to think that, you know,

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Speaker 1: as long I talked to Roger about this, I think

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Speaker 1: in our last podcast, like if you had to choose

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Speaker 1: between having a hundred percent healthy a d and eight

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Speaker 1: percent healthy Lebron or eight percent healthy A D and

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Speaker 1: percent healthy Lebron. I would take the A D because

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00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: for him, especially with what he brings in terms of

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00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: the defensive ceiling, they need him to be healthy. But

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Speaker 1: Lebron has this like old man version of his game

833
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: that he doesn't use as much as he probably should.

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00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: And that's his low post game. And you know, talk

835
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: to any you know, the high level NBA bloggers into

836
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: the analytics and they'll tell you that, you know, possessions

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00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: that start with Lebron James post up almost always end

838
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: with some absurd number like one point three points per

839
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: possession or something crazy like that. Uh, give or take

840
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 1: a few tents of a point based on the season.

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00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: But that's always been one of his best areas and

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00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: I think it's the easiest counter to uh, you know,

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00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: effectually uh, to take away the need for him to

844
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: make really quick cuts. That's not to say that he

845
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: doesn't still need to get healthy if he can, and

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00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: it's not to say that he won't that he will

847
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: experience some discomfort working out of the post, but I

848
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: think that would be the best way for an injured

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Speaker 1: Lebron to impact a playoff series in my opinion. Yeah,

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00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: that's probably a good way for him to start kind

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00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: of in the first round. Um, like the point you

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Speaker 1: made about Wish Shrewder, because if if if Lebron is

853
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: at the top of the key running running screen actions,

854
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: then Shrewd is probably a spot up shooter mostly right

855
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 1: or easily he's a cutter out of that. So pring

856
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: Lebron in the post kind of makes it a little

857
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: bit harder to kind of double him. But again that

858
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: depends like who he's around. If this is like eighty

859
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: at the five and I think you have a really

860
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 1: nice open space. But again, if it's like drumming next

861
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: to him or treads, it's really tough to even just

862
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: throw Lebron in the post there other than he's passing

863
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: to the dunker spot. But they're gonna help balog a

864
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: lot of drum and especially Montrose, Harold kind of and

865
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: Dare are other shooters kind of make shots. So yeah,

866
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: Lebron's like post numbers are great. I think he's really

867
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: efficient at it. Um. I think he used it a

868
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 1: lot last year, But it just depends if he wants

869
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: to like mismatch attack from from the top or if

870
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: he wants to attack from the post. I think he's

871
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,439
Speaker 1: more comfortable right now, going from the top. You want

872
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: to pick out his defender, um using screens rather than

873
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: just having to bang downlow. Even though it might be

874
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: saving a little bit, I still think he kind of

875
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: uses a lot trying to back up every time. But

876
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: that's that's a good way to kind of use him.

877
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: I guess in the first round, UM, get his legs going,

878
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 1: get his jumper kind of going on those. He really

879
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: likes those followay jumpers, so maybe that gets him going

880
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: in the first round. Well, I suppose I'm speaking specifically

881
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: of at the times when he wants to be more aggressive,

882
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: because I agree with you that in terms of been

883
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: saving his legs sometimes sometimes you know, we've all seen

884
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: it with Lebron when he's in cohast mode, which regardless

885
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: of the game, it will happen at some point. Uh,

886
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: you know, it's just his way of saving energy while

887
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: he plays. What he'll do is he'll run some sort

888
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: the screening action at the top of the key, and

889
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,439
Speaker 1: he's not even really trying to get to the rim.

890
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 1: What he's trying to do is just get the defense

891
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: to overcommit to somebody, whoever it is, whether it's him

892
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: the Roman or just leaning one side of the floor

893
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: a little bit too much, and and then he'll either

894
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: throw some looping swing pass or he'll do behind the

895
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,959
Speaker 1: back pass on the top of the key like that.

896
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: That to me is his like energy saving play. And

897
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: he can still do that because he doesn't need to be,

898
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: you know, aggressively cutting off of it. I'm just saying

899
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: in the portions of the game when it becomes like

900
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: really necessary for him to be aggressive as a score,

901
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: I think the post game is going to be an

902
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: area where he can still be physically successful even when

903
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: he's less than in terms of his recovery from the

904
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: ankle injury. Yeah, for sure, I agree, Ryan. Appreciate you

905
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: coming up here. It looks like we lost Ryan. All right,

906
00:42:56,160 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: let's see mhm yo, great, are you there? Yeah, I'm here.

907
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 1: What's up, man? What's up? Uh? Yeah. Overall, I'm not

908
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: necessarily like super and panic mode about the Lakers, but

909
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: I do feel like it's like the whole center of

910
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: situation and just the effort in general is just very

911
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: different from last season because I feel like last season

912
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: they kind of took their lumps early on, Like I

913
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: remember kind of being um worried about the losses against

914
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: the Celtics and Philadelphia, and I was just wondering, Okay,

915
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: has Lebron lost his step against Wings? But I feel

916
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: like one thing that was really important was that as

917
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: that season went on, they kind of peaked towards the playoffs.

918
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 1: Like in the game against the Bucks and the Clippers,

919
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: I think back to back, you I just saw them

920
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,439
Speaker 1: look a lot better than they do now. And even

921
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: in the bubble, the effort wasn't always there, but they

922
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: can still kind of turn it on and lock in,

923
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: and you saw that kind of ramp up as time

924
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: went on, and I don't really think I'm seeing that

925
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: with this team, which is kind of like concern. And

926
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: my other concern is that with the center minutes, I

927
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: think that the person in most hurts, it might just

928
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: hurt short Dennish shorld of the most because at least

929
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: eighty and Lebron, regardless of the spacing, they'll still be

930
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: effective to some level in terms of finishing around the

931
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: paint because of their size, athletic system in touch, Whereas

932
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: for Shoulder, I just realized that Drummond is kind of

933
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: always going to be in the dunker spot, and you

934
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: don't really want shoulder, just taking jump shots to the

935
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: whole game, and because of his size, I'm more so

936
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: worried about his performances in the playoffs and his ability

937
00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: to kind of finish around the rim. So my question is,

938
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 1: do you think that the Lakers can afford to give

939
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: the spot minutes that they would give ja Vail and

940
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: Dwight last year, So for example, they would give like

941
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: you would start Javail and you're not necessarily giving five

942
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: points to the other team. But again, you guys kind

943
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: of talked about how Vogo would be a little bit

944
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 1: slower to make those rotations. I mean, he definitely at

945
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: the end of the day, he did do it, so

946
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: credit to him. But feel like, again against the Clippers

947
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: and just most of the Western Conference teams, you really

948
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 1: want to be giving yourself the best shop possible off

949
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 1: the jump, and right now I don't necessarily see that

950
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: situational lineups that give me the confidence that we're going

951
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: to do that. So you know, first of all, you

952
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: want to hear something that's kind of ironic is that

953
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: if you actually look at the Lakers line up data,

954
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: among their lineups that meet a certain minutes threshold, the

955
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: most successful Laker five man lineup last year was the

956
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: lineup with JaVale McGee. Um. Now, I think that the

957
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: obvious explanation for that is because they would play him

958
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 1: with the starters, so he was playing he was playing

959
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: with the other four best Lakers. But the point is

960
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: is that, like I think that that was one of

961
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: part of the issue that delayed uh, you know, Frank's

962
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: reaction is you know, I think that lineup that I'm

963
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 1: referencing was roughly about plus fifteen points for one d

964
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: possessions in terms of their net rating. And the truth

965
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: you're right, it's like, what if that lineup was plus eighteen,

966
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: you know, or plus nineteen if they stopped messing around.

967
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: And it was obvious that Frank didn't necessarily want to

968
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: play Javail because he literally only played the first five

969
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: minutes of the first quarter, in the first five minutes

970
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: of the third quarter, that was like his only time playing.

971
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: But it was part of him, you know, capitulating to

972
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: the demands of I'm guessing E E. But that you're

973
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: right about the fact that it affects Dennis the most

974
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: because Lebron and a d can physically dominate the game

975
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: in a way that even though there's poor spacing, they'll

976
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: find a way to be impactful and agree that Dennis

977
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: is the one that it affects the most. And you know,

978
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,919
Speaker 1: all you can hope is that, just like last year,

979
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: eventually Frank finally looks at the guys and goes, hey,

980
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: a d we saved you all these lumpster in the

981
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: regular season, we're benching the centers and uh, you know,

982
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 1: I saw this stat the other day on Twitter, UM,

983
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: and I'm assuming it's correct, which is probably a bad

984
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 1: strategy on my part. But a sixty of the Lakers

985
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: minutes last year in the playoffs we're played without a

986
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: traditional center. They played with either mar Quief or a

987
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 1: D at the five. UM. So you know, for all,

988
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: for all of our complaints, you know, when when the

989
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 1: Chips were down, they went to their best lineups. UM.

990
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: And then the last thing you mentioned about their inconsistent

991
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: effort this year, I think you know, as fans, we

992
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: have really irrational expectations. We just want our teams to

993
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 1: play hard all the time, and I think we forget

994
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: that NBA teams always have bad effort nights. And you

995
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 1: know that's why before the season I would tell Raj

996
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: I'd be watching that defensive rating because I think that

997
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: defensive rating is the best indicator of your average effort.

998
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: You know, how often you go into a game and

999
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 1: you just totally mail it in versus when you actually

1000
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: are engaged and you're trying on the defensive end. And

1001
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: the Lakers have had the number one defense in the

1002
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: league almost all year. Um, So you know, as far

1003
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: as I'm concerned, Yeah, there have been bad nights. It

1004
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: may even seem like there's been more bad nights than

1005
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: usual lately. But this Laker team, when you actually compare

1006
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: them to the other thirty team, the other twenty nine

1007
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: teams in the league, they they tend to mail in

1008
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: nights less often than everybody else. So I would actually

1009
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 1: argue that this has been a good effort team in

1010
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: a team that, in a really crappy season with a

1011
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: lot of crappy circumstances, has brought it for the most part,

1012
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,439
Speaker 1: and I think they deserve credit for that. And I'll

1013
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 1: think the other out of the question, he said, Shrewder

1014
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 1: would probably be the guy that struggles the most. I

1015
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: would agree with that. Just from another sense, I think

1016
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: Lebron and a d kind of built their chemistry last year, right,

1017
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 1: Like they got a bunch of games under their belt. Um,

1018
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: the kind of pieces changed around them, but they're still

1019
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: each other. They know their games. Shooter only got like

1020
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: twenty something games next to Lebron and a D. And

1021
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: he's supposed to be a big time shock creator for

1022
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: this team, um, running a lot of actions that are

1023
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: supposed to go through him. He's supposed to be the

1024
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: third score. And that's where I worry about him out

1025
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: now until the first round. Like they're getting no continuity

1026
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: between those three, especially and the four if Drummond is

1027
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: gonna be a big part of the playoffs, like, they

1028
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: just not enough minutes with them. So that's where I

1029
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: think I agree with you. Shooter would be the the

1030
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: odd man out here and the guy I want to

1031
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: look to too. Hopefully in that first round we get

1032
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: someone like Denver where he can kind of get going.

1033
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 1: Denver runs a real drop coverage where uh it really

1034
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: lends to the strengths of Dennis Shrewder him be able

1035
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: to come up and take the shots he want. So

1036
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: so I agree with you on that point that that

1037
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: Lebron and a D are gonna be fine. I think

1038
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 1: I think worrying about the Superstars is not the part here,

1039
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 1: Like I feel like they will be there. It's just

1040
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 1: the continuity and the health you need to worry about here. Um. Yeah. Uh.

1041
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: I did have one more point about like, one thing

1042
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: that I have seen in the past couple of games

1043
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:09,760
Speaker 1: was a D as a ball hand there more so often,

1044
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: and I kind of really like that development doesn't always

1045
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: looked great with drumming and a D, but they're still

1046
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: kind of working out that fit and I kind of

1047
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: see the idea behind it. I think it was all

1048
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: I could look even better. So that's that's kind of

1049
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: the one thing that I'm hoping that they do kind

1050
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: of carry into the playoffs. Yeah, I'm I think he's

1051
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: a little bit shaky dribbling out on the perimeter, uh,

1052
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: in an environment where he doesn't have great spacing. I

1053
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: thought he struggled under Marcus Morris's ball pressure today. Roger

1054
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: and I actually talked about that at the beginning of

1055
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: the space and you know, I think I think at

1056
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: the end of the day, like in in in specific matchups,

1057
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: when he has more space to work with, anytime a

1058
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 1: D is being aggressive is good. I just think that

1059
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: if you're if you're kind of parsing out his skill

1060
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 1: set against the team like the Clippers with a ton

1061
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 1: of ball pressure, a ton of switchy wings who's loading

1062
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: up the side and sending doubles him kind of a

1063
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 1: six eleven guy putting the ball on the floor is

1064
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: kind of asking for, you know, bad things to happen. Um.

1065
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,479
Speaker 1: But that's not to say that that shouldn't be used

1066
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: in certain in certain spots when he has a little

1067
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: bit more room to work with and the defense in

1068
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: the defense isn't so keen in on him. Yeah, I

1069
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: agree with I like that they're using it. They used

1070
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: it really nicely against Denver Um kind of kicking on Yoki, right, Like,

1071
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: that's a big that you can really go at in

1072
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 1: up all screen actions like tonight, it's tough, especially with

1073
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: eighties jump or not going. Um, it's gonna be tough

1074
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: for him to run those four or five and with

1075
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: like very little shooting around right there. It's like Alex

1076
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,439
Speaker 1: Caruso and the other guys that teams just don't respect

1077
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: their shooting. So eighties running four or five screening roles

1078
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: are just no space. He's driving into three or four bodies.

1079
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: There's just nowhere to go and and the Clippers just

1080
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: switch it pretty easily. So like if he succumbs at

1081
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: the screen with Drummond, it just switches you batch on

1082
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: him and they're comfortable with him kind of contesting his shots.

1083
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: So that's that's where I would like to see him

1084
00:51:58,440 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: more in the playoffs, for sure. I think him and

1085
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: the solve and running nice couldn't running nicely and put

1086
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: the ball more in eighties hands on at the top

1087
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: of the key instead of just throwing it to him

1088
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: in the post and hoping he just backs down and

1089
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: gets a hook shot or something and try to be

1090
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: super physical, which is just not his uh, not his game. Yep,

1091
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: I agree, Thanks Rick, appreciate you coming up here. Thanks Rick,

1092
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: thank you. I'll be safe. I might regret this one,

1093
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: but read what's up? I see you tweeting me you

1094
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: wanted to come up here? Are you there? No, it

1095
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: says connecting, Well, get someone else while we're waiting for

1096
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: to connect. Okay, mhm, you know George? Are you there? Yeah?

1097
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 1: What's up? George? Does it go? Man? Good? Good? I

1098
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: thought Rick was gonna take my spots, gonna slander hour

1099
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 1: up here, but one question, I guess I'll ask if

1100
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: Frank is going to commit to Drummond at the five

1101
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: for starting, would you guys think it would be better

1102
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: for Dennis to come off the bench, maybe because I

1103
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: don't know if he's gonna be hampered by COVID And

1104
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 1: I think, Jason, you said something earlier in the year

1105
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: that you wouldn't mind Dennis starting or coming off the bench.

1106
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 1: I should say so, I want to get your thoughts

1107
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: on that. You know, it's It's always been my longstanding

1108
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 1: philosophy that if you've got, you know, too many ball

1109
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 1: handlers on the floor, it's not necessarily a bad thing,

1110
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: but inevitably one of the guys who is going to

1111
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: be relegated into a position that affects his rhythm. And

1112
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: unless you're literally like a Clay Thompson, or you're like

1113
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 1: Kyrie and Kevin Duran James Harden, where you're really good

1114
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 1: spot up shooters, it can be a problem. Dennis Shooter

1115
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: is an okay spot up shooter, but when he's off

1116
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: the ball, it can it can disrupt his rhythm. I

1117
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: always from the start thought that that he would benefit

1118
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: from a role where he could come in guns blazing

1119
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: as Lebron or a d goes to the bench and

1120
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: he can just get his rhythm going. Uh. The one

1121
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: thing that Dennis did that kind of countered that is

1122
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: he was so good defensively at the point of back

1123
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 1: that it actually was kind of helpful to have him

1124
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: out to start the game, almost to like set the tone. Um.

1125
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I don't know that they'll do

1126
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: the same thing when he comes back from the COVID stuff. Uh,

1127
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: Dennis's uh, you know, Dennis has made his his position

1128
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: known throughout the season and his interviews. He's got he's

1129
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 1: got a little bit of an ego on him, as

1130
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 1: he shawd. He's a really good basketball player. And my

1131
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: my guess is he wouldn't take kindly to a benching,

1132
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: So I would I would put my I put my

1133
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: money on him starting when he comes back. Yeah. Same.

1134
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: I feel like I wanted him to come off the

1135
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: bench to to start, but his defense is just too good. Um.

1136
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,839
Speaker 1: I feel like he was at all all NBA defense level,

1137
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,439
Speaker 1: Like he had all NBA defense level year. Um, he's

1138
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: a really good ball pressure guard. Um, even better than

1139
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: Avery Bradley was. Heyst here and you gain all that

1140
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 1: shock creation, all that ball handling, Um, he really raises

1141
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: the ceiling of the team. I feel like Crusoe is

1142
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: going to close a lot of games, might even close

1143
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: over him, but he gained. He really raises that offensive

1144
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: ceiling that they miss a guy that can create his

1145
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 1: own shot. So I don't know if he'll come off

1146
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 1: the bench, maybe for the first few games in the

1147
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: first round, but I think he'll eventually start, and plus

1148
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: you have the whole um Well. I don't know if

1149
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: the contract issue will come up as much in a

1150
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: playoff setting, but I'd rather him start. I just think

1151
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 1: that the starting lineup means his offensive creation, especially when

1152
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,720
Speaker 1: they start too bas like like a d and Drummond

1153
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: or or something like that, where you just have so

1154
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: little scoring anyway, um inside and so little space to

1155
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: work with. You need a guard that can attack and

1156
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: really pressure put pressure on defenses where other other guys

1157
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: just don't do that to his level. Yeah, I was

1158
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: just saying that I know the Bucks did it Withdrew

1159
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: because he had really bad symptoms coming back. But I

1160
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: mean I said would be a question to be answered

1161
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: later because I just think with Drummond out there, it

1162
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 1: kind of hurts his ability to attack because he did

1163
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: especially in that NETS game. Well, I guess Drummond was

1164
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: out there, but I don't know. I mean, I thought

1165
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: just with Drumming out there, it would hurt his ability

1166
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: to attack, and him and Gasol out there, just another

1167
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: playmaker to add and shooting. I thought that would be

1168
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: a lot better. But I don't know what Frank's gonna do.

1169
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: We we'll find out. Yeah, I guess. I guess that's

1170
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: all I had to ask if if a shooter would

1171
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: come off the bench. But I don't have really anything

1172
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: else to add, So you can't let me up here again,

1173
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 1: Thanks George, Thanks guys. I would see if if we

1174
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: can get his book, get his connection going here. Yo,

1175
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 1: what's going on? Man, don't make me, don't make me

1176
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: regret this now. I was going on a question though,

1177
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 1: I got two questions. The first question is are you

1178
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: worried about Denis short of coming back playing high minutes

1179
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 1: at the point with COVID symptoms? Yeah, definitely, Man, I

1180
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: would never know how that's gonna go. Like even I

1181
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: think Katum even said like it affected him, what like

1182
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: months after right like he had he had his COVID

1183
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: stuff and he said he was still breathing out of

1184
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: like an inhaler and stuff before games. It's really scary,

1185
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: so you never know, like and I don't know, So yeah,

1186
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: definitely I'm worried about it. You gotta play the numbers man, like,

1187
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you're worried about it. What happens If he

1188
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: comes back and he's not doing well, Um, then you

1189
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:42,439
Speaker 1: got to react accordingly. But chances are, as a young

1190
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 1: healthy guy, he should be fine. My guess is that

1191
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 1: if anything, it will just be his conditioning just from

1192
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: the fact that you know, like when when I got it,

1193
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: it knocked me on my butt for you know, eight

1194
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 1: nine days and I was sleeping like twelve hours a

1195
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: day and it just affected my affected my conditioning when

1196
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: I tried to come back, just because I wasn't doing anything. Um.

1197
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 1: And that's hard because he'll be coming back into playoff

1198
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: NBA basketball, so that could that could be a little crazy.

1199
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 1: But I mean at the end of the day, I

1200
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: think we should just try to be optimists here and

1201
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: hope that he comes back as a young, healthy person

1202
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 1: with very little residuals. And it's also possible that he's

1203
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: one of the lucky ones about symptoms and he can

1204
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: do some training while he's awaiting his quarantine to end.

1205
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: So I mean, we we'll sim we'll see what happens.

1206
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: But you know there's no point in speculating. I guess yeah,

1207
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: I agree. All right, Okay, now I'm my question though,

1208
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: what is how? All right? So uh if you guys

1209
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 1: so right now, I was looking like you're gonna play

1210
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: the Suns in the first round, right right? All right?

1211
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 1: So how many? How many players deep do you think

1212
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 1: I'm playing in the playoffs for Lakers? This leged team

1213
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 1: got too many? Man like twelve. I think you can

1214
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: go twelve deep. I don't think they will, but they can't.

1215
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: I mean, the Lakers don't have a depth problem. I

1216
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: promise you that. Um they they they have an issue

1217
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: with when it comes to the rotations with too many

1218
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: players you can play. I mean, if you look at

1219
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: the guard spot, you've got Dennis, Dennis A CP West, Caruso,

1220
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: th H T and Ben McLamore. So you've got that's

1221
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: six cards that you could rotate in and out. Even

1222
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: if you played three guard lineups all the time, you

1223
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,959
Speaker 1: go too deep. And then on the wing you've got

1224
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 1: basically Kuzm Lebron, Markis Morris and although Marky Morris played

1225
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: some small ball five. But then you look at the

1226
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 1: four words and you've got you know, Gasol, Drummond, A

1227
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: d Uh and Uh, Montrez and Lebron is gonna play

1228
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: a ton of minutes at the four in the playoffs.

1229
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: I like because there the their issue has to do

1230
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: with health for their superstars. But outside of that, depth

1231
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: is just not a concern on this team. Um. You know,

1232
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: they could drop a player in any position at any

1233
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: given time, a time that's in a role player spot

1234
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: and be fine. That's never been a concern for me.

1235
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: This year, Yeah, I just wish they played less players.

1236
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,919
Speaker 1: To be honest, I think that I think exactly Vote

1237
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 1: was playing way too many. He needs to cut the

1238
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 1: rotation down, which I think he will in the playoffs

1239
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: like they did last year. But I don't know that

1240
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 1: Soun's team is deep though as well. They're gonna go

1241
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 1: like ten eleven deep, so I don't know how that's

1242
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: gonna work. But I just like him to cut the rotation,

1243
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 1: like I think Drummond and Trez and those guys should

1244
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 1: just be all situational. Market Morris probably too, should always situational,

1245
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 1: should be like Kuzma Caruso, Lebron Andy and a few

1246
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: and KCP and a few other few other players, and

1247
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 1: that should be a should get like an eight nine

1248
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: rotation down. But but yeah, they're gonna go like ten

1249
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: eleven deep though They're gonna try at least. Yeah, appreciate

1250
01:00:52,080 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: you get get something else out of here. I thought

1251
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 1: it would be a lot worse. Yeah, it was too bad.

1252
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 1: Hm mhm, amazed. What's how's it going? Rog? Can you

1253
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:17,439
Speaker 1: hear me? I can hear you? What's going on? What's

1254
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: going on? Rag? Just a couple of questions for you? You

1255
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 1: You know me, I'm a big baseball guy. It seems like, um,

1256
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 1: two of the dominant l A teams, the Lakers and Dodgers,

1257
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 1: are struggling due to injuries. How that being have that

1258
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 1: being said, are you more concerned about the squad getting

1259
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 1: healthy or about like the chemistry when they come back?

1260
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 1: Which one is more concerning to you most? Definitely the

1261
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 1: health coming back, because none of the chemistry matters if

1262
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 1: they're not healthy. Right, So, but I feel like there's

1263
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 1: a fine line that we need to walk and they're

1264
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: really playing with fire here, like they're really trying to

1265
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 1: just put go full on into the health kind of basket,

1266
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 1: putting all their eggs in the health basket. And I

1267
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: feel like there's got to be some respect to the

1268
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 1: chemistry and respect to the continuity that it takes to

1269
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 1: win a title. But they're going all into the to

1270
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 1: the health basket, so that's obviously what's most important to them.

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Speaker 1: I think that's most important to me too, What do

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01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: you think, Jason? Yeah? I agree. And when it comes

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01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 1: to you know, uh, when it comes to this kind

1274
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 1: of thing, I look at what's dependent on chemistry and

1275
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 1: what isn't Like if your team like the Boston Celtics

1276
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 1: and you don't have a ton of super high i

1277
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 1: Q offensive players, but you've got a bunch of talent.

1278
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 1: Sometimes it takes time for it's all kind of meld

1279
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: together and for it to work. But when you've got

1280
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: guys like Lebron and when you've got guys like uh Marcus,

1281
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 1: all these really high i Q players that are kind

1282
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 1: of the glue that makes it all work, everyone's job

1283
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: becomes simpler. And when people have easy jobs, it's not

1284
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 1: so much about chemistry at that point. And uh, and

1285
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: then especially with their their you know, what they do

1286
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 1: on the defensive end, that sort of thing has already

1287
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: been set up throughout the season, and I'm not worried

1288
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 1: about Lebron and they d coming in and doing their

1289
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 1: job defensively. So like you know, I always say that,

1290
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 1: like when when when the ship hits a fan, you

1291
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 1: have to fall back on your core identity, you know,

1292
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 1: like you can't, uh, you know, when things really get tough,

1293
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 1: you have to fall back on these like habits that

1294
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 1: you set up throughout the season. And that's why I

1295
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 1: think teams that are bad defenses don't do well in

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01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 1: the playoffs, because like you're gonna go through a stretch

1297
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 1: against the Clippers where you're just not gonna be able

1298
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 1: to score because they're going crazy that they're the rest

1299
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 1: are letting a lot of physicality go, they're playing their

1300
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 1: best defensive lineups, and things are gonna really shut down,

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01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: and you just have to weather that storm by defending

1302
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 1: them on the other end. And I think that the

1303
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 1: I think that the Lakers, because of Lebron's high i

1304
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 1: Q and because of the fact that you will primarily

1305
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: be the one making decisions, and because they can fall

1306
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 1: back on their defensive identity, I think they're capable of

1307
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 1: of you know, weathering these kinds of storms without a

1308
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 1: ton of continuity in chemistry. Obviously, Like rog said, I mean,

1309
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 1: none of it's good. You know, it's certainly a little

1310
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 1: freaky to think about the fact that Lebron that most

1311
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 1: is going to play three or four more games before

1312
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 1: the playoffs, Like that's obviously not a good thing. Um,

1313
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 1: But you know, like if that you know Lebron, Lebron,

1314
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 1: You've got to think about it this way, Like Lebron

1315
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 1: doesn't want to play in the play in he knows

1316
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 1: that these two games tonight and tomorrow against the Blazers

1317
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 1: are important games, and he's not playing. That means Lebron

1318
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 1: is sitting at home and he's thinking, my ankle hurts,

1319
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:28,919
Speaker 1: and I would rather have my ankle feel a little

1320
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 1: bit better then try to fight for this right now.

1321
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 1: And you've got you gotta trust that they know what

1322
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 1: they're doing at that point for sure. Yeah, I agree.

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01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 1: Oh wait, Mike has a question if that's okay? Okay?

1324
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 1: Rod was something? How you doing what's going on? In? Yeah?

1325
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 1: I just wanted to come on board and say Clipper Nation, baby,

1326
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 1: I need to do that. No, no, thank you, Roger. Oh,

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01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 1: last question up would you rather have the Lakers in

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01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 1: this situation be seventh or fifth? Right now, what do

1329
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,919
Speaker 1: you think it's more safe for them? I'd rather be David,

1330
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 1: I'd rather than be fit just to have a full

1331
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 1: on playoffs. But no matter who they play, well, I

1332
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 1: think I think we can have a good argument here

1333
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 1: that I'm pretty confident that the Lakers will make the playoffs.

1334
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 1: It's just a matter of who they're going to be

1335
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 1: a first thing in the face round. But uh, yeah,

1336
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 1: we got an interesting couple of months coming up, so

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01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 1: I'm excited for it. So but thanks for having me on.

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01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Thank you. My friends. Uh, we got

1339
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 1: like four more people of Jason, do you have time,

1340
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:39,439
Speaker 1: because they've been requesting for a while. So I just thought,

1341
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 1: let's just let's pull through and let's just make them

1342
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 1: a little quick. Let's do it. Yeah, let's go with

1343
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 1: uh Exavier, So yeah, what's going on? In what's going on? Yeah? Yeah,

1344
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 1: I really wanted to know what did you'll to about Vogel?

1345
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 1: I think yesterday the day before his comments about playing

1346
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 1: Gasol and treads together like that it was hard to

1347
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 1: play two bigs and uh the NBA to day when

1348
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 1: man they play two bigs all the time. I did

1349
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 1: not want to get mad before I go to bed here,

1350
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 1: but like, yeah, that's that's really annoying, man. Uh because

1351
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 1: the only reason I pushed for is because he's the

1352
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 1: one that said he would play it. And I just

1353
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 1: think they fit really nicely together, Gasol and Treads. It's

1354
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 1: just like a perfect four or five allows Gasol to

1355
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 1: play that five on offense and that four kind of

1356
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 1: on the five on defense, and that four on offense.

1357
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 1: Let Treads kind of do what he does be able

1358
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 1: to switch. But they obviously don't believe it will work.

1359
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 1: I would like to at least see it once. I

1360
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 1: don't know why we can't at least see it, but

1361
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 1: they obviously don't believe in it. I don't think his

1362
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 1: reasoning really made sense to me considering who we were starting,

1363
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 1: But it's clear they don't really want to go to that,

1364
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 1: so I guess that's that's just what it will be.

1365
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna see it for I could

1366
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 1: see it now, I mean I doubt we see it

1367
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 1: when it comes to the playoffs. Playoff time, I just

1368
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 1: think Treads will be out of the rotation or Gasol

1369
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: won't be plane in the series. I don't think them

1370
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 1: two are gonna gonna play together at all sadly this year. Yeah,

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01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 1: I I literally thought that was the most ridiculous and

1372
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 1: hypocritical statement that I've heard from Frank since he's had

1373
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 1: the job. Like, here's the thing. You can't play two

1374
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 1: centers in the modern NBA in the sense that you

1375
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 1: can't play Drummandantrez. Absolutely, But you absolutely can play two

1376
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 1: big men in the NBA today if one of them

1377
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 1: has the ability to function on the perimeter and the

1378
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 1: other doesn't, because then then they can kind of play

1379
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 1: off of each other in that sense. And you know,

1380
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 1: the reason why you can play Mark and Trez is

1381
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 1: the exact same reason why you can play Ap and Drummond.

1382
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 1: It's the fact that you know one of them can

1383
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 1: function on the perimeter, why the other doesn't. Now, ideally,

1384
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 1: like here's the thing, you know, what's not going to

1385
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 1: fix all of the Lakers problems, Marcus Solo and Montrez

1386
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 1: Harrold playing together. It's not going to fix all their problems.

1387
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 1: That's that's foolishness. But the idea that you wouldn't try

1388
01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 1: that lineup as a manner in which to were some

1389
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 1: Marcus all minutes and hopes of getting something going because

1390
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 1: you say you can't play two bigs together. That's that

1391
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 1: to me is flawed reasoning. It doesn't make any sense,

1392
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 1: I think, especially considering he's the one himself who said

1393
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 1: he was going to try to make it happen originally.

1394
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 1: So I think that that that, to me was some

1395
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:22,640
Speaker 1: some class a hypocrisy. But I mean, yeah, let's for

1396
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,799
Speaker 1: all the people clamoring for that lineup, let's stop pretending

1397
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 1: like that's going to solve all their problems either, because

1398
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 1: I think that's irrational as well. Yep. The only thing

1399
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 1: I'd say is let's get a d and gasolvers before

1400
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 1: we beg for like, let's Getslfers consistently out there getting minutes,

1401
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 1: and then we can talk about gasol with other line ups.

1402
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 1: But until he's playing with the starters or even that

1403
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 1: full second unit, um, I just don't think this is

1404
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 1: a lineup we're gonna see like that. The way that

1405
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 1: he's being played right now is is pretty much just

1406
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 1: at backup five where he plays spot minutes next to

1407
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 1: uh Anthony Davis. So I think that's how it's gonna go.

1408
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, Davier. We're gonna try to get some

1409
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 1: the last few people up here appreciate you. Man. Thanks

1410
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 1: for let's see five. So that's which I think is

1411
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:23,639
Speaker 1: Lebron's record in the finals. Is that right? No, that's

1412
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 1: just what I wanted to be when he retired, so

1413
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 1: I could put my go to Genda. But the question

1414
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 1: I had was like, albeit, I think it's kind of

1415
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 1: biased because watching every Lakers game, like Vogeo gets my

1416
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:41,639
Speaker 1: like blood pressure high every game because he like has

1417
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 1: his love affair with Drummond. But I just had a question, like,

1418
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 1: say the Lakers like don't make the finals and they

1419
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 1: flame out, flame out, but like Sayley loosen to the the

1420
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 1: conference finals, is there any like way that Vogel doesn't

1421
01:09:55,320 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 1: come back next year? Like I know, literally bias, Okay,

1422
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 1: so like he's like definitely back next year whatever happens,

1423
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 1: There's absolutely no way. Now, Yeah, I guess the only

1424
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:12,679
Speaker 1: way is if they got swept in the first round

1425
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 1: in some terrible like manner where you know, just like

1426
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 1: some apo apocalyptic thing, which again I just don't see

1427
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 1: happening at all. He got the title last year. There's

1428
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 1: a bunch of I wouldn't call him excuses, but you know,

1429
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 1: there can be some valid reasoning for you can say

1430
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 1: why this season didn't work out, injuries, short off season,

1431
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 1: no practices, etcetera, etcetera. And now all these teams go

1432
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 1: through that. But I just don't see I don't think

1433
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:36,640
Speaker 1: Bogel has done about enough job. Look, he's got to

1434
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 1: see him with the number one defense, Like we can

1435
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 1: lose sight of a lot of things, but they have

1436
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 1: number one defense in the league without Lebron and a

1437
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 1: d for a lot of that. So I think he's

1438
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:45,720
Speaker 1: done what he's supposed to do. If he doesn't have

1439
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 1: the stars healthy by the time of the playoffs, that's

1440
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 1: not his fault. I just don't see him going anywhere.

1441
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 1: He's he has. He's done his job for the most part.

1442
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:54,760
Speaker 1: Just the rotations are a little frustrating for all of us,

1443
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 1: but I feel like that's like a team thing, something

1444
01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 1: that's been kind of decided as an organization rather than

1445
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 1: him like kicking out who's playing and not every night.

1446
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 1: So no, I don't see him getting I don't see

1447
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 1: him going anywhere. Yea. In addition to that, would you

1448
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 1: I know, like some people complain about the offensive schemes

1449
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 1: like the coaching staff didn't really do much or anything

1450
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,680
Speaker 1: like that. Are there, like people you guys would like

1451
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 1: to see added to the staff this offseason. I kind

1452
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 1: of like the way that the staff is put together

1453
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 1: in the sense that they are primarily defensively focused and

1454
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:31,640
Speaker 1: they kind of let Lebron be your offensive coordinator in

1455
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 1: a lot of ways. Uh, you know, it's it's not

1456
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 1: the first time that we've seen that kind of idea before,

1457
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 1: where you know, you you bring in a coach to

1458
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 1: focus on one side of the ball. It's basically what

1459
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 1: Mike D'Antoni has done his entire career. Um, I I

1460
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 1: just I don't I think the I think the Lakers

1461
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 1: have a health problem. They don't have any sort of

1462
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 1: coaching problem. I don't think that. You know, when here's

1463
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:55,599
Speaker 1: the other thing too. This doesn't just go for the Lakers.

1464
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 1: This goes for everybody. Because I've seen just about every

1465
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 1: national podcast I've listened to is like, well, what happens

1466
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 1: if you lose in the first round of this playoffs,

1467
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 1: Like if you're Portland, or if you're the Clippers, or

1468
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 1: if you're whoever it is. I mean, Portland's maybe a

1469
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:08,679
Speaker 1: different story. But if you guess what if the Clippers

1470
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 1: losing the first round, like I wouldn't blow it up,

1471
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 1: like this has been the most absurd season ever, you know,

1472
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:15,599
Speaker 1: like Dennis Shooter just has to miss the last two

1473
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:17,640
Speaker 1: weeks of the season with the pandemic, like because he

1474
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 1: caught a disease, Like there's uh, you know, the the

1475
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 1: Chicago Bulls are going to miss the playoffs because they

1476
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 1: made an all in trade for all star forward and

1477
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 1: then Zach Lavine got COVID and was out for two weeks.

1478
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 1: Like it's it's like, it's like this is this is

1479
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 1: not the season to make any sort of sweeping changes

1480
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 1: to anything. If the Lakers lost in the play in

1481
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 1: it would not change anything about the way they should

1482
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 1: approach this offseason or anything about what they should like

1483
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:50,599
Speaker 1: think of as their ceiling for next season, because guess what,

1484
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 1: this season has been a total ship show and there's

1485
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 1: no point in making any sort of massive over like

1486
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 1: reaction to what has taken place this year. It has

1487
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 1: been it has been the furthest I guess what, you know,

1488
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:05,639
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen, a full offseason for everybody to get

1489
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 1: healthy and then a traditional NBA schedule that starts in

1490
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 1: the middle of October and runs to the middle of April,

1491
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 1: and there's very few back to backs, and there's much

1492
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 1: better travel and lots more opportunity for the players to

1493
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 1: get into a traditional, you know, routine in terms of

1494
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 1: taking care of their bodies. And I'm just I'm just

1495
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 1: not necessarily worried about that in the long run. I

1496
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 1: appreciate you, man. We're trying to get the last week

1497
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:53,679
Speaker 1: that they left here. Thank you. Man. Let's see, looks

1498
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,679
Speaker 1: like is not connecting so you can get someone else

1499
01:13:56,680 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 1: while that one loads up here? Yo, what's up? What's

1500
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 1: going on in? How's good? Hey? How are y'all pretty good?

1501
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 1: I was just listening the whole time, and then I

1502
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 1: just saw Dave mcmanimon's tweet about Lebron and had to

1503
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 1: hop on he was like Lebron's absence from the lakers

1504
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 1: last two games against Denver and Clippers was not medically related.

1505
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:39,760
Speaker 1: When asked for the reason James was not present, Vogo said,

1506
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 1: he's just not here. Added James was not at shoot.

1507
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 1: Was that shoot around Thursday? But we'll not join the

1508
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 1: team in Portland. What do y'all think about that? What

1509
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:54,639
Speaker 1: in the world. I just saw it seven minutes ago. Yeah,

1510
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 1: I'm seeing that. I'm not sure. Maybe he just didn't

1511
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 1: want to come to of the game. I don't I

1512
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:03,600
Speaker 1: don't know. Lebron I'm sure has his reasons for not

1513
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 1: uh for not going to the thing at the game.

1514
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 1: I guess is that what he's saying. He wasn't at

1515
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 1: the game, um sou and he was not at shirt

1516
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 1: shoot around Thursday. I have no idea. I'm sure Lebron

1517
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 1: has his reasons though. If he's not, if he's not

1518
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 1: a shoutout Georgie shared it at the top, I don't

1519
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 1: know if everyone can see in the spaces there he

1520
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 1: shared that little tweet um that it says that he

1521
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 1: was absently. I have no idea, but I mean, Lebron

1522
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 1: I'm sure has his reasons, so I'm sure he'll be

1523
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 1: with the team when that when it matters. I don't

1524
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 1: have no care. Yeah, I tend to like, if you

1525
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:38,639
Speaker 1: wanted to be a massive conspiracy theorist and you wanted

1526
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 1: to come up with some like I don't know, Desperate

1527
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:42,600
Speaker 1: Housewife's type of drama for this, you could say that

1528
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:45,760
Speaker 1: maybe he's taking space from the team. In reaction, to

1529
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:50,599
Speaker 1: Dennis Shrewder revealing his vaccine history or something crazy like that.

1530
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 1: But I just, I just he's a grown ass man, dude.

1531
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 1: There's no way that's the kind of thing that's happening.

1532
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 1: My guess is that, uh, that there's a very good

1533
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 1: reason and that it's something that that Frank Vogel doesn't

1534
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 1: want to disclose just out of respect. But I don't know.

1535
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 1: I can think of if you, if you're trying to

1536
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 1: build a list of things that should worry you about

1537
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 1: the Lakers, the fact that Lebroun wasn't sitting courtside should

1538
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 1: be extremely low on that list. Yeah. Yeah, he'll be

1539
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 1: there when it matters. That don't know what a crazy

1540
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:25,679
Speaker 1: season that's such as it's been a fucking ship show

1541
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 1: of the season. Very true, great test. We appreciate you.

1542
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to these last two, all right, get

1543
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 1: out of here, all right, thank you. Let's see if Rome, Rome,

1544
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:46,680
Speaker 1: are you there? You hear me? What's going Yeah? I

1545
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:50,720
Speaker 1: can hear you. What's going on? Man? Jason was good. Man.

1546
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,680
Speaker 1: I can't believe Reek came in here and did not

1547
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 1: dance on all of our grays. Bro shout out to him, Bro,

1548
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 1: because that's wild, Like I was a man would deserved

1549
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:09,559
Speaker 1: it now, But I just want to ask. I don't

1550
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 1: know if you guys saw it. It was a like

1551
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 1: pregame today, Vogo was saying something about how he kind

1552
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 1: of has an idea of who he's gonna play like

1553
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 1: come playoff time. I don't know if you guys saw that.

1554
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, I didn't see that. I think he

1555
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:29,160
Speaker 1: basically tweeted out like that he he knows who the

1556
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:31,879
Speaker 1: rotation is going to be, but it's gonna be matchup dependent,

1557
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 1: which is basically Roger and I can saying for weeks

1558
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 1: like like it's it's all fun in games until the

1559
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 1: chips are down, man, Like you don't, uh, you don't

1560
01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:43,720
Speaker 1: keep a bullet in the holster when the chips are down,

1561
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:46,639
Speaker 1: like they're gonna they're gonna tighten up things when when

1562
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 1: the time comes. And then there's there's evidence of that

1563
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 1: if you dig into the line up data in last

1564
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 1: year's postseason. Yeah right, And that that quote really tells

1565
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 1: us nothing, right that he knows his match he knows

1566
01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 1: his play approtation, but his matchup dependent, Like that's just

1567
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:06,639
Speaker 1: that can be could really mean any yea, but I mean,

1568
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 1: if you just if you just go off his like

1569
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 1: resume with the Lakers, right like what he did last year,

1570
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 1: just going off what he's actually proven to be, not

1571
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 1: this theoretical that we're going with. He plays who's going

1572
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:18,599
Speaker 1: to help him win, right like Javal mcgie did not

1573
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 1: play minutes when it mattered. Um, what if we forget this,

1574
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:24,799
Speaker 1: but Dion Waders was a huge part of the rotation

1575
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 1: right in those seeding games and those like those those games,

1576
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 1: and he did not play um when it mattered either,

1577
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:31,720
Speaker 1: j R. Smith. Those kind of guys just did not

1578
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 1: get minutes. Those guys that cannot defend um and do

1579
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 1: not hit shots at a respectable rate, or don't play

1580
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 1: play well, don't play a good playoff basketball, not gonna

1581
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 1: get minutes. Like That's just how I see it, and

1582
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 1: until proven otherwise, I'm saying that that's what he's gonna

1583
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 1: do when the when the chips are down. As as

1584
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 1: Jason said, so I don't think you have to worry

1585
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:51,599
Speaker 1: about that. But yeah, that quote really tells me nothing.

1586
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 1: That he said his playoff rotation is ready what its

1587
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:56,720
Speaker 1: matchup depending that that tells me absolutely nothing. And then

1588
01:18:56,760 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 1: someone go ahead, Sorry my only quick quick questions. How

1589
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 1: confident are you guys that Drummond is getting pulled? Bro,

1590
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:06,640
Speaker 1: Because like, I don't know what it is, man a

1591
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 1: d I don't know if if if they just got

1592
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 1: a thing, but like I don't know, they got a lot.

1593
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 1: They act like like Drummond is not an issue. Man,

1594
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm comingant that he'll eventually get pulled.

1595
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 1: I just think that he'll also play quite a bit

1596
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 1: before that. I think that's it's that simple. I mean, uh,

1597
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 1: the one thing I was gonna add about the rotation

1598
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 1: stuff is we had someone come on the pod on Tuesday.

1599
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 1: It was like, do you remember when Dion Waiters and

1600
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 1: j R. Smith were playing a ton in the bubble

1601
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:36,680
Speaker 1: seating games? And He's right, like literally the Lakers were

1602
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 1: running a ton of offense through Dion Waiters in the

1603
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:41,599
Speaker 1: bubble games. So like it's one of those things where

1604
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:44,479
Speaker 1: you can never overreact to regular season rotation stuff. It's

1605
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:47,679
Speaker 1: very seldom going to make any sense. But but yeah,

1606
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 1: I think they will pull Drummond. I just think they're

1607
01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 1: going to play him a lot first, and I think

1608
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:53,679
Speaker 1: we'll all be pulling our hair out as it happens.

1609
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 1: But you know, a lot of it has to do

1610
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 1: with how quickly they're threatened to, you know, like if

1611
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:01,599
Speaker 1: they if they somehow now managed to get a you know,

1612
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:04,599
Speaker 1: a gentleman sweep in the first round, and and they

1613
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 1: go into the second round they win games one and two,

1614
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 1: Like that's just going to trick them into thinking that

1615
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 1: the way things are going, nothing needs to change. So,

1616
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 1: I mean, depending on how quickly they find themselves with

1617
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 1: their back against the wall could be what ends up

1618
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 1: dictating when they finally start playing their best lineups. Right,

1619
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 1: that's valid, that's valid. All right, Thank you guys, Thank you. Man.

1620
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:28,679
Speaker 1: We got we got two more. All right, let's see,

1621
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 1: let's see a few works this time. What's going on? Man?

1622
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:42,120
Speaker 1: Can you can hear us? Hello? Can hear me? Yeah?

1623
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:44,120
Speaker 1: I can hear you. What's going on? Man? All right?

1624
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 1: I just want to go back to what we talked

1625
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:49,720
Speaker 1: about earlier. Um, someone brought up that, like, um, the

1626
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 1: Suns are like the possibility right now, like the most

1627
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:57,679
Speaker 1: likely possibility rights somehow the like the lebron lest Lakers

1628
01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 1: going to run here, which I doubt, but regardless, UM,

1629
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 1: I remember Jason talking earlier about how like the Warriors

1630
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:07,760
Speaker 1: are peeking right now, while the Lakers like you know,

1631
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 1: lacking continuity, lacking health all that. And so that's why

1632
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 1: the plane is pretty dicey. And I'm not suggesting that

1633
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 1: like the Lakers tank or anything obviously, but like if

1634
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 1: that were to happen and that they were the Warriors

1635
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:23,880
Speaker 1: um playing and then Son's first round, I honestly think

1636
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 1: that that's like the best case scenario. And hear me out,

1637
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 1: because the Warriors, while they may be peeking that you know,

1638
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:34,760
Speaker 1: they don't have a single center. And and the only

1639
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:38,720
Speaker 1: thing that really troubles Lebrons in Game ones, which is

1640
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 1: a lot of I see a lot of people bringing up,

1641
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 1: is that like because a lot of teams he has

1642
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 1: to adjust to the rim, like the rim pressure that

1643
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 1: he puts. A lot of teams throw something out in

1644
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 1: the game ones that he doesn't, he like he has

1645
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 1: to adjust to. And if I mean, unless you're counting

1646
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:57,120
Speaker 1: on Draymond to to shore up the entire paint for

1647
01:21:57,200 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 1: Lebron and a D Like I know Draymond does well

1648
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 1: against a D, but like he doesn't do anything he

1649
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 1: can't do both at the same time. And so I

1650
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:07,679
Speaker 1: don't know, I think that that's like the best case

1651
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 1: and the Lakers defenses centric around stopping guards, right Schroeder

1652
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 1: verse Curry this year, Schroder has clamped him, like yeah.

1653
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 1: And then the Suns when it comes to CP three book,

1654
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:24,519
Speaker 1: that's like obviously they have eighten but like I'm not

1655
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 1: trusting Eitan yet because from what I've seen and just

1656
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 1: he has no experience, so I don't know. And then

1657
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:32,879
Speaker 1: in the second round, if you have to face the Clippers,

1658
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 1: I think you'll be more equipped to face them rather

1659
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 1: than in the first. So what are your guys thoughts

1660
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:40,840
Speaker 1: on that you can go ahead? Rush? Yeah? That was

1661
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 1: that was a lot. I guess I'll try to keep

1662
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 1: up with I guess the defense I think you talked

1663
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 1: about that. Oh, look, I think the defense is good

1664
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 1: enough against any of these teams. Like the Suns are

1665
01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 1: a really good team. I feel like they're a really

1666
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 1: high level regular season team. But I think they're pretty

1667
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 1: close to like where they're going to peek at um.

1668
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 1: So like in my opinion, I think Jason, you've said

1669
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 1: this to like, we just want to avoid the Clippers

1670
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 1: in the first round. Like, I don't think the Lakers

1671
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 1: are operating that way at all. It doesn't feel like that,

1672
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 1: but I just think like that's what we would that's

1673
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 1: what we'd prefer to try to just get Lebron's legs going. Um.

1674
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:12,599
Speaker 1: I saw all the doctors kind of Laker Twitter doctors

1675
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 1: say that Lebron probably won't be himself until the second

1676
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 1: round because I guess it takes like a full twelve

1677
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 1: weeks to get that full level of healing bad So,

1678
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:21,720
Speaker 1: like just to get just to get a matchup where

1679
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 1: they don't have to go against those full superstar wings

1680
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 1: in the first round out there, I think it would

1681
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 1: be good for them. Um And yeah, like look, the

1682
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:31,639
Speaker 1: West is tough. There's no easy matchup like Denver being

1683
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 1: the prize in the West. It is just shows how

1684
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 1: good the West is in my opinion, Like they're on

1685
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:38,719
Speaker 1: a ridiculous team. M P. J. Yokich is the clear

1686
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 1: m v P for me, um So, and that's surprise

1687
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:42,960
Speaker 1: team in the West. And you go all the other matchup.

1688
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 1: Utah is really good, really solid. Um So, like there's

1689
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 1: no easy matchup there that you want to try to

1690
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 1: avoid the Clippers in my opinion, but the Lakers are

1691
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 1: gonna have to win against tough teams for all three

1692
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 1: all four rounds um in the playoffs in the final.

1693
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:57,599
Speaker 1: So I guess that's my take on that. I think

1694
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what other questions were in there, but

1695
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:03,720
Speaker 1: but yeah, like just going from playoff to playoff matchup, um,

1696
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 1: I feel like that it's gonna be tough either way.

1697
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 1: There's no avoiding it. You're just gonna have to have

1698
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:09,840
Speaker 1: to start playing well. And that's that's my fear here,

1699
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 1: is we're just going full health, zero continuity, zero chemistry,

1700
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:16,639
Speaker 1: zero building anything learning from any of these games. Really,

1701
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:18,920
Speaker 1: you watch these games back and there's just nothing ready

1702
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 1: to learn. Our coverages are so simple, are very relaxed,

1703
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 1: are very health conscious. Trying to get eight D to

1704
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:26,600
Speaker 1: just be able to relax and ROLLM on defense to

1705
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:29,240
Speaker 1: a point where he doesn't have to really go too hard.

1706
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:31,639
Speaker 1: But yeah, I guess that's my sum up here. Sorry,

1707
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 1: it's kind of late, Jason, You're good. I mean, look,

1708
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 1: if the Lakers end up in a play in game,

1709
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 1: you should pick the Lakers. The Lakers are the smart bet.

1710
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 1: I mean, they're the there are a championship caliber team

1711
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 1: that is low in the standings because of other circumstances,

1712
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:48,880
Speaker 1: and the other teams that are going to be in

1713
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 1: the play in which are most likely going to be

1714
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 1: the Memphis Grizzlies, the Golden State Warriors, and in need

1715
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:58,599
Speaker 1: of the Spurs Repelicans. You're gonna be smart to pick

1716
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:00,800
Speaker 1: the Lakers in those matchups. Don't get me wrong, because

1717
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:04,759
Speaker 1: those are extremely flawed basketball teams that are not championship contenders.

1718
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 1: So I hear where you're coming from in the sense

1719
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 1: that you know, you like that the Lakers would probably

1720
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 1: beat up Golden State. They would kill him on the inside.

1721
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:15,760
Speaker 1: They would devote an enormous amount of attention to Step,

1722
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 1: and they've had success against Step with exception of choking

1723
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 1: a late fourth quarter lead. And and I hear you

1724
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 1: on all of that. It's just that in a one

1725
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 1: game sample of any NBA basketball anything can happen. And

1726
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:34,599
Speaker 1: if and I personally think the upside of avoiding that

1727
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 1: uh is better there I should say, the downside of

1728
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:41,599
Speaker 1: having to potentially deal with the Clippers in the first

1729
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 1: round seven gamer, I think is is better than the

1730
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 1: downside of potentially having to deal with you know, a

1731
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:50,960
Speaker 1: game of Russian Roulette and the play in you know

1732
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 1: what I mean, And that's what it is like. You're

1733
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 1: probably gonna be fine, but you might blow your brains out,

1734
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:57,080
Speaker 1: you know, so like that. So that's kind of that's

1735
01:25:57,120 --> 01:25:59,640
Speaker 1: kind of where I'm at with the plane app. We

1736
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 1: think these are all valid points. Um. Not to cut

1737
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 1: you off, Rob, sorry, but you're good. Yeah. I just

1738
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 1: think like healthy Lebron, healthy a D. One of the

1739
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 1: best duos I've ever seen in my life. I just

1740
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:12,760
Speaker 1: feel like if that's there, there really shouldn't be much

1741
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 1: like else to talk about. Yep, that's what they're that's

1742
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 1: what they're betting on, and so hopefully they're right. Um,

1743
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 1: and that if you have healthy Lebron and a D

1744
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:22,760
Speaker 1: still have a bunch of people who pick them and

1745
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 1: they should be fine. But there's just stuff that this

1746
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:27,559
Speaker 1: don't need to work on. Edge. I appreciate you coming

1747
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:30,840
Speaker 1: on man, Thanks, yeah, thank you, appreciate it. Love the

1748
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 1: love the spaces appreciate alright. Last last one, Uh, like

1749
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:39,960
Speaker 1: I called the night. What's going on? Let's see if

1750
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 1: they connects? What if? Sam? Can you hear me? What's

1751
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:50,840
Speaker 1: going on there? Jason Rods? What up? Guys? Mane you

1752
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 1: guys doing incredible jobs to the Thank you, thank you.

1753
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 1: So I've got a two part question here. So, first

1754
01:26:57,240 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 1: of all, I mean, I think it would be interesting.

1755
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 1: You know, you've seen Lebron James at a you know,

1756
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:05,439
Speaker 1: a game seven high stakes game. We've never seen Lebron

1757
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 1: James at a playing game with high stakes. I mean,

1758
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 1: I'm pretty interested in you know what that's gonna look like. Um.

1759
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 1: But let's go past that. Let's say for whatever reason,

1760
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 1: you know, we do win the playing games. Um. All right,

1761
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 1: So there's a question for both of you. I want

1762
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:22,560
Speaker 1: to know who is your preferred matchup between the Clippers

1763
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 1: Sons and the Jazz all right? And second part question

1764
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 1: is the big question that everybody's asking. What would be

1765
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 1: your big man rotation with that, you know, as far

1766
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 1: as Harold, as far as Mark, as far as uh,

1767
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 1: you know, putting in you know, a d at the five,

1768
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:44,240
Speaker 1: maybe you know, using Drummond. So who would you rather

1769
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 1: face out of those three? And what players would you

1770
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:50,840
Speaker 1: use as far as the big man role goals. So,

1771
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 1: I so we've never I've actually thought about this a

1772
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 1: little bit in the last few days. You're right, we've

1773
01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:57,240
Speaker 1: never seen Lebron in a in a in a winner

1774
01:27:57,240 --> 01:27:59,559
Speaker 1: take all type of game in the sense that it's

1775
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:02,960
Speaker 1: a single elimination format. We have seen Lebron in a

1776
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:06,240
Speaker 1: lot of games Sevans though, which while they're not the

1777
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:09,000
Speaker 1: same in terms of the chess match, they are the

1778
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:11,920
Speaker 1: same in the form of the pressure. Um So I'm

1779
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:14,599
Speaker 1: not worried about about the pressure. What what would get

1780
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 1: the Lakers beat in a play in game is horrible

1781
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 1: shooting from the role players and excellent shooting from their opponent.

1782
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 1: That would be what gets them beat. And and the

1783
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 1: reason why I think that should scare people is because

1784
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 1: that's some of that is out of your control. Uh So,

1785
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:31,280
Speaker 1: some of that is just kind of the nature of

1786
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:33,120
Speaker 1: the way the ball bounces in the m Yet, so like,

1787
01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:34,800
Speaker 1: if you can avoid that, I think you should. That

1788
01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 1: said you, like I said it before, you should you

1789
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:40,200
Speaker 1: should pick the Lakers. As far as those three teams

1790
01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:43,599
Speaker 1: that the Sun's, Jazz, and the Clippers, I think they

1791
01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:47,599
Speaker 1: should hope to face the Jazz. I think the Clippers

1792
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:49,759
Speaker 1: are the team most well equipped to beat the Lakers.

1793
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 1: And as I've said many times, I think that I

1794
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 1: think the Suns are are significantly better than the Jazz,

1795
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 1: and they're much more built for a playoff environment. They've

1796
01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 1: got a point guard with a ton of wayoff experience.

1797
01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 1: They've got an Elite three level score, which is something

1798
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 1: that's an extremely valuable thing in a playoff series. They've

1799
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:09,920
Speaker 1: got lots of defensive wings, and Jake Crowder and Michael

1800
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:13,840
Speaker 1: Bridges and even Cam Johnson's a halfway decent defensive wing.

1801
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:17,200
Speaker 1: And then DeAndre Ayton, you know, is certainly going to

1802
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 1: be a presence. He's not as good as as the

1803
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:22,200
Speaker 1: Laker front court, but he's going to be a presence.

1804
01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 1: And that's not to say that I wouldn't pick the

1805
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 1: Lakers in the match. If I would, I just find

1806
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 1: them less intimidating in a playoff series for the chess

1807
01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 1: match than what the Lakers could do to the Jazz.

1808
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 1: I think the Jazz have a severe lack of wing

1809
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 1: defense between Royce O'Neil and and Boyan Bogdanovitch to deal

1810
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:41,519
Speaker 1: with Lebron and a d and they have they have

1811
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:44,680
Speaker 1: the cure for Rudy Gobert with two centers that can

1812
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 1: shoot threes um and then quite frankly, when it comes

1813
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 1: to close games, I think Donovan Mitchell has a little

1814
01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:53,800
Speaker 1: bit of the Russell Westbrook aidis in the sense that

1815
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:56,240
Speaker 1: he just has a tendency to go out guns blazing,

1816
01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:59,479
Speaker 1: which isn't necessarily the best decisions to make in crunch time.

1817
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:03,679
Speaker 1: And and I usually would I would pick Lebron making

1818
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:07,880
Speaker 1: decisions at the end of games over Donovan Mitchell. Uh,

1819
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:10,640
Speaker 1: you know, in a seven game series ad percent of

1820
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:12,880
Speaker 1: the time. So I think the Lakers would win that

1821
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 1: matchup relatively easily, even in the weekend state. So the

1822
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:20,799
Speaker 1: Jazz would be your best bet. So that would require

1823
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:22,799
Speaker 1: them to lose to the Warriors in the first playoff,

1824
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:25,720
Speaker 1: playing in game and then and then to beat the

1825
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:31,479
Speaker 1: winner of Memphis and whoever wins the the Pelican Spurs race.

1826
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:34,599
Speaker 1: So would would your big man rotation then to be

1827
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:37,800
Speaker 1: just Harold and I mean Gasol and if we're up

1828
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:39,320
Speaker 1: to if we're up to me, it would be a

1829
01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:43,080
Speaker 1: D and Marcosol is the only two fives that play. Okay, Yeah,

1830
01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:45,760
Speaker 1: see that's what I would rather play the Suns, Like

1831
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:47,920
Speaker 1: I know, the Suns are really good, just I feel

1832
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:49,920
Speaker 1: like this is their peak. Though I said a little earlier,

1833
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:51,720
Speaker 1: I feel like they peaked kind of who they are.

1834
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 1: I don't see another level that they'll get to. I

1835
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 1: think the Lakers are the best guard defenders in the

1836
01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:59,479
Speaker 1: league like I love Crusoe, shooter, um k CP all

1837
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:01,760
Speaker 1: like Chase Around, Devon book or Chris Paul, and I

1838
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:04,200
Speaker 1: think the Suns are still kind of young like deonder

1839
01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:05,920
Speaker 1: At and I just don't think will I think he

1840
01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:07,599
Speaker 1: will be really good, I just don't think he's ready

1841
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:09,599
Speaker 1: for like that kind of playoff matchup against a guy

1842
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:11,599
Speaker 1: like a d if he's gonna play the five um

1843
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:13,679
Speaker 1: and again, like we see what happens to like Chris Paul, teams,

1844
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:15,920
Speaker 1: teams start to switch bigger hope to get into him.

1845
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:17,840
Speaker 1: And I just know Chris Paul and Devin Booker are

1846
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:20,040
Speaker 1: gonna be able to hit that midrange kind of jumper

1847
01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:22,759
Speaker 1: to in a level that will get them four wins

1848
01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:24,320
Speaker 1: on the Lakers. I would I would think the songs.

1849
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:25,880
Speaker 1: I think it's close, though, I don't think there's no

1850
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:28,479
Speaker 1: easy match up there. And I think Tress can. I

1851
01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:30,439
Speaker 1: think Tress can kind of play against Phoenix, right. They

1852
01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:33,040
Speaker 1: played Dario Sarich as their backup five a lot, like

1853
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:35,400
Speaker 1: I think trys can get minutes there, um this Saul

1854
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:37,760
Speaker 1: as well against Eton and uh. I don't know if

1855
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:41,160
Speaker 1: Drummond can play. That depends how he's playing. Honestly. Um,

1856
01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:43,439
Speaker 1: but I would hope Eight will be at the five

1857
01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:45,479
Speaker 1: in those lineups. So I would rather play Phoenix. But

1858
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:47,800
Speaker 1: there's no like easy game there, especially if you're in

1859
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:49,400
Speaker 1: the play and you gotta play that game to win

1860
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 1: and then you have to play a tough series against

1861
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:53,719
Speaker 1: a tough West team. But I would rather play Phoenix,

1862
01:31:54,200 --> 01:31:56,559
Speaker 1: to be honest. Yeah, Rod, to your point, I mean

1863
01:31:56,600 --> 01:31:58,519
Speaker 1: that's the thing is a lot of people talk Phoenix

1864
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:01,000
Speaker 1: and they mentioned experience, but if you look all around,

1865
01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:02,920
Speaker 1: I mean Chris Paul is the one that does have

1866
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 1: the experience. I mean, you look at Devin Booker, you're

1867
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:07,479
Speaker 1: looking at eight and they don't really have that playoff

1868
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:10,280
Speaker 1: for you know, high stakes experience yet you know. But

1869
01:32:10,479 --> 01:32:12,479
Speaker 1: um that that's the only thing that makes me want

1870
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:14,600
Speaker 1: to play Phoenix a little bit more because I know

1871
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:16,800
Speaker 1: Chris Paul can be dangerous, but the other guys don't

1872
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:18,600
Speaker 1: really have it. I mean Jay Crowder, yeah he was

1873
01:32:18,640 --> 01:32:21,599
Speaker 1: in the finals, But as far as everything else as

1874
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:24,439
Speaker 1: a whole unit, I feel like we can, you know,

1875
01:32:24,520 --> 01:32:27,479
Speaker 1: handle Phoenix a little bit easier that we can handle

1876
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:29,439
Speaker 1: the other teams. Utah has kind of been in the

1877
01:32:29,439 --> 01:32:32,240
Speaker 1: playoffs a little bit already gone to that game seven

1878
01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:34,080
Speaker 1: with Denver, so I know they have a chip on

1879
01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:36,840
Speaker 1: their shoulder, so it can be tough. I would choose

1880
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:40,479
Speaker 1: Phoenix myself. Yeah, man, I feel like overall we do

1881
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:43,200
Speaker 1: got to use Mark a little bit more. Vogel has gotta,

1882
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:45,680
Speaker 1: you know, get out of the politics. You know, if

1883
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:47,519
Speaker 1: you have to sit drum in some games, you have

1884
01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:50,519
Speaker 1: to sit them. Um. You know that's my take, And

1885
01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:52,479
Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys for letting me on. I'm kind

1886
01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:55,040
Speaker 1: of the opposite of Jim Hill here asking last question

1887
01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:59,360
Speaker 1: instead of first. But I appreciate you guys. Man, you

1888
01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:02,240
Speaker 1: guys are killing it. Thanks man, I appreciate the kind words.

1889
01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:08,800
Speaker 1: Appreciate it, man, Thank you, and it's man. Yeah, we've

1890
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:10,800
Speaker 1: been going a while here. Appreciate everyone that came and

1891
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:14,679
Speaker 1: requested to speak and came up. Hopefully that helped anyone

1892
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:16,519
Speaker 1: here that kind of got stuff off their chest and

1893
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:19,840
Speaker 1: was able to to um to talk it out. So yeah, thanks,

1894
01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:22,920
Speaker 1: thanks everyone, Thank you, and I will I will take

1895
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:24,760
Speaker 1: the time I've been waiting until the morning is usually

1896
01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:26,760
Speaker 1: because I've been so tired, but I'll take the time

1897
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:28,719
Speaker 1: to get the pot up tonight so that you guys

1898
01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:30,719
Speaker 1: can listen to it whenever you wake up tomorrow morning.

1899
01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:34,400
Speaker 1: Appreciate everyone, Thank you, Thanks guys,