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Speaker 1: Online fighting. There's no greater joy. It's one more thing

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Speaker 1: I'm strong, and one more thing.

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Speaker 2: Before we get to Katie's story. I just got a

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Speaker 2: text from someone I have ah a texting relationship with

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Speaker 2: somebody that I have no idea who they.

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Speaker 1: Are, Like a texting relationship that can be a lot

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Speaker 2: I might have a real relationship with them. I just

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Speaker 2: I just don't know who it is. It's somebody who

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Speaker 2: texts me from a number I don't have a name

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Speaker 2: attached to it. And uh and they the like comment

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Speaker 2: on things they heard on the show, or say what

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Speaker 2: you got planned this weekend for the big three day

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Speaker 2: weekend or whatever. I'll just say, uh, not much about you,

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Speaker 2: you know, and uh And I don't have any idea

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Speaker 2: who it is. And I've been doing this for with

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Speaker 3: About how often is not a lot?

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Speaker 2: It'll go Oh, it goes in bursts like there're probably

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Speaker 2: been three in the last week, and then there might

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Speaker 2: be months before I hear from them again. Okay, and

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Speaker 2: then and then they'll text me a few times. Again,

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Speaker 2: I have no idea who it is. And it's been

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Speaker 2: going on for eight ten years. I mean a really

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Speaker 2: long time. It's me Jackiet do it during commercial.

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Speaker 3: That would be even better if it was Michael after that.

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Speaker 2: But that's what I'm afraid of it. I'm afraid of

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Speaker 2: it somebody like like I know really well, and if

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Speaker 2: I say all of a sudden, it'd be weird to

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Speaker 2: say it. At this point after eight years, I just

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Speaker 2: gotta fiss up. I don't have any idea who you are?

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Speaker 2: Who am I I mean? Because that would be hurtful,

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Speaker 2: and especially if it's somebody like it might be the

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Speaker 2: the insurance place where I get my car insurance. I'll

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Speaker 2: just use that for an example. Same lady has been

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Speaker 2: dealing with me for my car insurance for fifteen years. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't know her name, or I do know her name,

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Speaker 2: but I don't know her number.

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Speaker 1: But will you got You wouldn't be on a texting

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Speaker 1: relationship like that, right, No?

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. People get your number through weird ways.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't have any idea who this. They sent me

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Speaker 2: a text today about how good the show was, and.

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Speaker 3: I have an idea. Are you ready? Next time? They text? You.

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Speaker 1: You respond back with, hey, I'm really sorry. I just

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Speaker 1: got a new phone and it blew out all of

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Speaker 3: Who is this?

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Speaker 2: That's great. That is the sort of cleverness women come

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Speaker 2: up with. That is the manipulative type stuff. You're devious, devious,

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Speaker 2: that is really good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so just let this this.

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Speaker 1: Little round fizzle and then the next time they text

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Speaker 1: you be like a new phone.

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Speaker 2: Who dis brand new phone? All my contacts. I'm having

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Speaker 2: to do this with sorry about that? Who is this?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be somebody you just hate.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna go with I've got a flat tire.

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Speaker 2: Here I am alongside the road. Could you come help

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Speaker 1: Could you buy chance to send a picture of your driver's license,

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Speaker 1: just so you know, trying to compare something. That's it.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to verify all my contacts. If you could

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Speaker 2: send a picture of a driver's license from end back,

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Speaker 2: that would be very handy for me.

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Speaker 3: How rightey, three verify just you know, Oh that's so fine.

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Speaker 1: See you said eight to ten and I was thinking

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Speaker 2: This is the problem with lying and why it's a

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Speaker 2: So by lying the first time the first several years,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're way too deep.

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Speaker 2: Now, there's kind of I mean, if it's somebody close

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Speaker 2: it's merely going to hurt their feelings. Right, Oh so

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Speaker 2: all this time you were texting back, you know, you

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Speaker 2: don't remember how long this has been going on. That

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Speaker 2: darn Obama. However long this has been going on, they'll think, well,

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Speaker 1: We have no just bullshitting your way through it, Jack,

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Speaker 1: what you were doing exactly.

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Speaker 1: Oh I wonder, I wonder how many people will text

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh man, what a what a what is that

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Speaker 2: It's very very true. Okay, so arguingly online, what is

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Speaker 1: I can't even believe that I got into this this weekend.

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Speaker 1: And it was with somebody that I'm somewhat familiar with.

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Speaker 1: We have kind of a broadcasting relationship, if you will.

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Speaker 1: And I had asked this person to post a link

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Speaker 3: And my brain went, wait a minute.

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Speaker 2: That's a little that's a little cold.

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Speaker 3: It was.

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Speaker 1: That wasn't word for word, but it was along that tone,

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Speaker 1: Wondering if I am gonna send somebody who I've known

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Speaker 3: After that, like doubling down and doubling down.

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Speaker 1: Right, I'm not a good loser, so now I'm doubling

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Speaker 3: This went on all of Saturday, Wow all.

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Speaker 1: have a nice day too. With the middle finger attack.

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Speaker 3: Really now you actually no, I told him have.

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Speaker 1: But it's but it was this weird like I don't

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Speaker 2: What did he continue to uh? And uh? There are

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Speaker 3: This is insane. So that was when I set the

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Speaker 2: The problem is and I recently met an adult who

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Speaker 2: make sure that's actually what the text says or what

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Speaker 1: Where were you with these wide wise words on Saturday morning, Jack?

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Speaker 3: While I was blowing a gasket.

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Speaker 1: It was totally and and I reiterated this to him,

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Speaker 1: and I've said it here, but like, this absolutely could

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, And what's I don't know that I've ever

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Speaker 2: should be on bumper stickers. If you start to get

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Speaker 2: because it quite possibly is not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you could cut out the whole drama of it all,

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Speaker 3: But you know, I see these fights all the time on.

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Speaker 1: Facebook and all that, and you're right, they completely spiral

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the whole.

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Speaker 4: Uh, I'll let you have the last word, you know,

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Speaker 4: and then they'll let you you get the last word,

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Speaker 4: and then they say one more thing, just a short thing,

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Speaker 4: of course you do, or something like that, of.

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Speaker 3: Course you do, sure every time. Anyway, So that was

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, let's all learn that lesson. Let's not react

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Speaker 2: to text until we know what the intent was. That's

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Speaker 2: what we've learned today, Michael. All these years and Jack

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Speaker 2: didn't know it was me. Well, I guess that's it.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy,