WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: What Does Effort Mean? 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:05.560 The following Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:17.280 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Let's go. Are you 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:21.440 ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:25.759 Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that. 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:30.120 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:37.440 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:43.479 It estus the October sixth, twenty twenty, season sixteen, episode 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:46.440 number thirty eight. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break. 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:49.120 We're live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios. At the start, 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:51.360 we got forty five minutes and we're gonna make the 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:53.240 most of it. Today. We got a lot to talk about. 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:56.080 There was a lot of talk that we heard yesterday 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:58.840 from the head coach and the coordinators that we're gonna 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:01.040 get into. There was some interesting things that they said. 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:04.600 And then, as promised by Amber yesterday, we're gonna fix 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:06.920 this thing. We've got some I got some questions for 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:10.520 these guys on how the Cowboys fix what's happening right 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:13.480 now with their team sitting at one in three. And 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:15.560 then we'll finish off the show. Maybe if we have 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:18.319 enough time, we'll get into a little NFC East talk. 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:20.600 Not a lot going on there, but we'll talk about 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:23.119 it a little bit. What one sucks right now? I mean, 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:26.080 like that's easy to segment done, so we don't have 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:27.679 to learn about that one. No One, no one looks 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:30.040 really good, but somebody has to win it. Well awesome, 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:31.880 So by the end of the show, I'm gonna ask 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:34.360 you guys, who's the best one in this NFC East 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:37.479 Which is probably a hard, hard question to answer right now, 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:39.319 but we'll do that towards the end of the show. 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:42.000 All right, So let's first jump in Mike McCarthy. Yesterday, 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:45.840 he has this press conference with the media, and the 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:48.040 first thing that he said that that stuck out to 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:51.400 me was regarding it was a question about the problems 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:54.080 that they're experiencing right now, and his quote was, if 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:56.680 I was going to rank them a number one our 0:01:56.720 --> 0:02:00.000 turnover race, show is our biggest negative? After four games 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:04.360 currently they're sitting at negative seven turnover ratio. Is that 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:06.480 their biggest problem? Nick, let's start with you. I think 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:09.560 it is. I do. I mean, because that's what leads 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:13.360 to more possessions, that's what takes the offense off the field, 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:16.000 and you know, I mean, think about when you when 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:18.239 you turn the ball over and the other team scores 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:21.440 when you could have scored. That's a seven. That's a 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:25.240 ten to fourteen point turnaround. In every game that they played, 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:28.320 just one turnover a turnaround like that could could have 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:30.760 affect the game. So yeah, without a dat, I think 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:36.760 I think it is the biggest problem that they have. Um. 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:40.880 I get Nick's point in logic and it makes perfect sense, 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:45.040 but I would say that's not their biggest problem. I 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:47.800 think that looking at the team overall, I would just 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:51.400 lean towards the issues that the defense is struggling with 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:55.520 currently because turnovers, to me, even though they keep struggling 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:58.920 with it week after week, I feel like that's something 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:03.640 that has a an easier or faster solution. That's something 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:08.480 that you can fix faster, in my opinion, versus what's 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:11.480 happening on the defense that I just I just see 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:15.919 that such at a such a bigger scale, and it's 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:19.600 depending on who they're gonna be facing later on through 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:22.160 the year. I think that's gonna come down to what 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:27.480 your defense it's unable to do. Dave. It's kind of 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:30.880 like card problems, right, like your car's not running the 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:33.560 way you want it to me, and like, it would 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:35.960 be great if you could take the engine out and 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:38.720 just do the whole thing over again, go in there 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:42.560 and really revamp it. Or you can just like turn 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:45.240 off the parking break and that's not gonna you know, 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:47.600 it's not gonna fix everything, but you probably be a 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:50.720 lot better off. My point is to say, the defense 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:54.600 is just there's a lot of stuff that needs to 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:58.560 be done there. It is the team's biggest problem. But 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:01.240 you can help a lot by just holding onto the 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:03.720 ball like it is. It is the problem that can 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:07.480 be fixed the easiest and would go a long way 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:11.200 toward making the defense or at least helping the defense. 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:14.280 So I agree with Nick because I think fixing the 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:17.560 turnover problem is something you can actually do. I just 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:19.400 don't trust that there's a lot you can do to 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:22.280 make this defense significantly better right now. So I'm gonna 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:24.719 challenge you, guys, how do you do it? Like that's 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:27.240 the hard part. Yeah, we all know it's a big problem. 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:29.800 We all know it needs to be fixed. What do 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:32.760 you think is their best route to try to fix it? 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:36.120 To get more turnovers or get more or I mean 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:37.640 that could be a part of the solution. Hey, if 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:40.560 you get more turnovers, then giving more turnovers maybe isn't 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:43.600 as big of a problem, right, I mean the offense 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:47.640 doesn't need to score. I mean they're scoring enough points. 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:51.800 I mean generally, yes, now you know they're not to 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:53.920 be one and three you need more points. But I mean, 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:56.160 you know, we see we have enough football games to 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:58.000 know you average thirty one and a half points a game, 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:00.480 you should be winning and should be winning big. Um. 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:03.560 So do they need to be as wide open? Do 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:06.320 they need to help more with the offensive line? Do 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:08.560 they need a little bit more max protect because they've 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:11.640 got two or three receivers, three receivers that can get open. 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:14.040 Maybe they need more of that. Maybe you need your 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:16.159 your running backs to stay home, Maybe your tied ends 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:19.400 need to stay home a little bit more, and you know, 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:23.960 protect the quarterback more because that's typically where the turnovers 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:26.479 are coming from. There is the pressure. And then on 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:28.520 the flip side, maybe they need to add more pressure. 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:30.520 You know, they don't really blitz a lot. Maybe they 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:33.000 should start doing that a little bit more. I don't know, 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:36.960 what do you think, Amber, How do they fix this 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:44.000 problems with the turnovers? With the turnovers established the run 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:47.120 when when you first of all figure out who your 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:49.960 offensive linemen are going to be and make that be 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:53.359 it for the rest of the of the year. Unless 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:55.960 there is another injury, of course, then you have to 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:59.240 readjust but going knowing, Okay, these are my start in 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:01.760 five and this is what it is. Don't don't do 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:06.960 the whole steel thing again. Okay, once that's settled, hopefully 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:09.760 you're able to establish the run. I think that the Cowboys, 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:13.760 yes they Dak is throwing the ball really good. The 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:16.520 receivers are doing a good job once they're able to 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:19.279 get the ball going and connecting and all that. But 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:22.920 I think you need to establish the run first because 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:27.320 that's gonna just help your defense. Just killed allowed the 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:30.599 defense to be less on the field as much as 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:34.880 you can. So just try to score points but using 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:38.480 and utilize utilizing your running back Zeke that I know 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:42.240 he has his own struggles, but we've seen him do it, 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:45.920 so I do have confidence in what he can do 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:48.080 in the running game. Still, Dave Hodd, you solve the 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:52.920 turnover problem. Isn't the running game the primary culprit and 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:57.040 the turnover problem right now? Big part? I mean Zeke 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:59.600 has fumbled three times this season, and he's lost two 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:03.120 of them. I mean, overall, I don't disagree with the 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:05.679 point Amber took the words right out of my mouth. Honestly, 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:08.919 is my primary hope for fixing the turnover issue is 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:12.320 continuity on the offensive line. Tyrant is back in the lineup. 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:15.960 Hopefully he stays there. Tyler Biadas has played one hundred 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:18.040 and thirty snaps through these last two games, and he's 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:21.160 played well, so hopefully that can help the interior. And 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:26.000 hopefully the coaches are what's the word I'm looking for, 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:28.960 humble enough to admit that they were wrong about this 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:32.560 right tackle thing. Hopefully the way Brandon Knight has played 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:34.680 when he's gotten in there has proven to them that 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:37.440 he should be the guy in my opinion, and hopefully 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:40.600 they can go forward with these five and have that 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:43.640 clean things up a little bit. To be clear, when 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:46.640 I said fix the turnover issue, I simply meant on offense, 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:49.760 like defense, prove it to me that you can get takeaways. 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:53.520 I don't know how you fix that without getting better players, honestly, 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:55.880 because this is a four year stretch where that's just 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:59.360 been the case. So I can't bank on the defense 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:02.600 getting men overs. I just have to I need the 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:05.240 offense to clean it up. I think continuity on the 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:07.560 offensive line would would go a long way toward helping. 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:10.040 What do we think the offensive line looks like? I mean, 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:13.040 Looney's out for two to four weeks, but I'm not sure, 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:15.720 be honest, wouldn't be the starter anyways, But they don't 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:20.560 have to make that call right now. What are we thinking, Tyrn, Connor, 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:24.760 be honest, Zach Night. I think that's what they're gonna 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:27.720 go with. I think that's definitely what they're gonna go with. Yeah, 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:31.119 I mean, unless unless they want to unless they feel 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:35.120 like Connor McGovern or, somebody could play guard better than 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:40.520 than Connor Williams. Then no, well that's true too, Yeah, 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:44.560 better than Connor Williams. But I'm saying, maybe you know, 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:47.280 they wanted Brandon Knight, I think, to be a guard anyways. 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:50.000 Maybe he's a better guard than Zach Martin's a better 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:53.520 right tackle. Yeah, I think that's what considering. All right, 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:55.559 let's move on to what other things you want to? 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:59.240 Go ahead, go ahead, Dave, No, I just it's it's possible. 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:01.760 I think I continue to think that they're going to 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:04.640 do the thing that requires the least amount of movement, Like, 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:08.160 I think they want as much continuity as possible and 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:10.960 just plugging Night in that right tackle allows everybody else 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:14.480 to stay where they are. Yeah, but sure it's possible. 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:19.480 To Nick's point about, well, one thing good, Amber, I 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:22.319 was gonna say, one thing that at least they've proven 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:26.040 is that they're not afraid to just shuffle people around. 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:30.040 So you can look that as a positive as to Okay, 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:33.760 maybe they will be willing to just kind of shuffle 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:36.840 people around and make some changes. Now, hopefully that's not 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:39.520 something that just happens during the middle of the game, 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:42.439 but rather something that you plan throughout the week and 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:44.920 kind of go that route and stick to it. Yeah. 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:46.640 You know, that's an interesting point, Amber, because I don't 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:48.719 think that's something we've been used to seeing around here, 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:51.480 is in the middle of games then making a decision. 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:54.400 And by the way, just as I'm giving them credit 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:56.480 for that, I'm also going to say they probably should 0:09:56.480 --> 0:09:59.240 have made that distinction before the game. I think Dave 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:01.000 made the point. Yes, if they were so willing to 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:03.600 as soon as they made a mistake rip them out 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:05.720 and put the other guy in, then they probably knew 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:07.880 that was a problem going into the game. They probably 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:09.760 should have gone in that way, is the way I 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:11.199 look at it. Right. But you know, one of the 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:16.520 complaints people always say, it's it's like the coach needs 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:20.360 to hold them accountable. They didn't hold these guys accountable. Well, 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:23.559 do what I mean, Benjam? Yeah, because that's what they do. 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:26.080 I mean, there's no detention in the NFL. I mean, 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:27.959 what do you what do you do to these guys? 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:30.360 I mean, they're not running laps. Maybe they do, but 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:33.200 I'm just saying maybe they should, Maybe maybe they should. 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:36.199 I'm just saying, how do you hold a guy accountable? Well, you, 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:39.599 Benjam in front of everybody, and that's that's kind of 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:41.360 what they've done. They're not afraid to do that. Yeah. 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:42.960 I will make this point real quick before we move 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:45.120 on to the next topic. Nick, you mentioned the number 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:47.480 of points that they're scoring should have them in the 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:50.040 winner's column a lot more than they are. Think about this. 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:51.560 I'm going to read for you the teams that are 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:53.920 in the top ten right now and scoring in the NFL, 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:56.360 and see if you see a pattern here. The Green 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:59.520 Bay Packers, number one, Seattle Seahawks, number two, Dallas is 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:03.120 number three, Cleveland Brown's number four, Buffalo Bills, number five, 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:06.760 New Orleans Sayings, number six, Baltimore Ravens, number seven, number 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:09.840 eight is Tampa Bay Buccaneers, number nine Kansas City Chiefs, 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:13.240 and number ten Las Vegas Raiders. The interesting part about 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:16.440 that at the top ten, I think that's probably most 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:17.880 of the best teams in the league. Those are the 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:20.200 teams I would guess right now the Super Bowl winner 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:22.640 is going to come out of that group. It's amazing 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:24.719 that the Cowboys, I guess. The point is, it is 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:28.160 amazing the Cowboys are scoring with those teams, yet their 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:30.640 results are so much different. That tells you just how 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:33.240 bad they're struggling on the defensive side of the ball 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:35.240 right now. I think, all right, let's mother is the 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:38.920 next topic. He was asked to Mike Nolan and speaking 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:41.559 of that defense, and his quote was, and we're talking 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:45.520 about Mike McCarthy's quote yesterday was yas very high confidence 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:47.960 in Mike Nolan. We're going to stay the course. My 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:51.240 question for you guys is do you agree that you 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:53.040 need to stay the course here or should they be 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:55.679 looking at other options? Are there other options that they 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:58.040 could consider at this point? Let's start first with you, 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:03.160 Dave H. I mean, you know, fans are gonna say 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:06.600 stuff like that after a game like that. I it, No, 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:08.959 I don't. I don't feel like they need to make 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:11.600 a move like that right now. The season hasn't gotten 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:14.480 away from him. And again, this is a new coaching staff, 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:17.680 a brand new slate coming in. You know, the Texans 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:21.680 fired Bill O'Brien yesterday. That's first of all their winless 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:23.199 I know one in three and O and four is 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:26.000 not a huge difference, but also Bill O'Brien has a 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:28.719 laundry list of things that he's done wrong that led 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:33.480 to that decision for seven years, whereas well, yeah, absolutely, 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:37.200 so this is this is a clean slate now. I 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:40.720 don't think that's out of the realm of possibility. If 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:43.600 things really go south and it looks like this team 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:45.920 really won't be able to contend for a playoff spot, 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:48.040 I think I don't remember who made the point, but 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:52.960 George Edwards, a former longtime defensive coordinators already on this staff. 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:56.439 So I don't want to say that it's impossible, especially 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:58.640 if it really, like I said, if it really gets 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:01.520 out of hand, but the division sucks, you're still in 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:03.520 the mix, and this is a brand new staff, Like 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:05.600 I never really thought that was a realistic thing to 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:13.600 do after four games. Amber by saying to stay the course, 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:19.640 that's strictly talking about coaching specifically. Yeah, he was saying it. 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:23.200 He said it in regards to the question about Mike Nolan. 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:25.720 So my assumption is he's talking about we're gonna stay 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:30.200 the course with Mike Nolan, right specifically. Okay, Yeah, I 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:32.520 didn't know if that was if that man like, we're 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:34.920 just gonna stay with why we kind of have right now, 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:39.000 including players. But okay, when you talk about coaching specifically, 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:43.360 I think, yes, it's a little unfair to kind of 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:47.120 rush that quickly after four game when it's a new 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:50.480 coaching staff and you guy, guys just kind of trying 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:55.600 to connect everything together and build off something new basically, 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:58.199 but at the same time, there has to be some 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:02.320 kind of shake up. So I don't know what that 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:04.640 would mean behind doors. I don't know what you tell 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:08.960 or how they they communicate certain things, but I would 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:13.520 be saying someone explicit words in those meetings and being like, okay, 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:16.400 you you you need to kind of step it up 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:20.560 because even though we're new at this here in Dallas. 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:23.840 We're not gonna wait until the end of the season. 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:28.160 Like I think that there's a certain point where I 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:31.760 don't know. Honestly, here's what I'm struggling with. I'm just 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:34.920 tired of waiting year after year after year. So my 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:39.560 patience right now is very low. So I just I'm 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:42.800 at a point where, yes, I have to consider he's 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:46.560 new here in Dallas, but at the same time, just 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:51.040 in Dallas overall period, I'm just tired of excuses and waiting. 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:57.560 So I don't know what to tell you. She just 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:04.040 sums right now. Nick, I just I mean, I just 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:08.920 it's frustrating because I'm sitting over here with with you, 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:11.760 and like this is our twenty second year of doing 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:13.800 this and I think I don't know, and five or 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:17.440 six maybe six years She's s's yeah, and it's like 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:21.000 we should get I don't know how you guys have this. 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:24.720 We're so long honestly, two thousand and one, oh yeah, 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:32.720 two thousand But anyways, um, I think she's right on 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:35.520 that you better do something. I mean, stayed the course 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:38.640 might have been the answer to the personnel move, and 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:42.240 I I agree with that because you know this, this 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:46.120 has been a different year. I think. I think, um, 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:48.840 for everybody, they should have a little bit more patience 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:52.600 with all coaches, all sports, all jobs. Really, I mean 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:55.160 this is just different. You don't judge what you just 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:58.160 see right here. Now, you gotta get this thing fixed quickly. 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:02.280 So um, they talked about multiple schemes they could play. 0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:03.920 That's what we love about this thing. We can do 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:07.120 different things. Well, maybe you shouldn't. Maybe you should you 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:10.160 stick to one or two things that you really do well. Yeah, 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:13.800 this whole you know, wide open stuff. Nobody's you know, 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:16.920 figuring it out. Maybe they're not a three fourth team 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:20.280 you know at all. Maybe they're four three maybe whatever. 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:22.960 Do whatever they need to do, just you know, hone 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:24.440 in on a couple of things that they do well. 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:28.080 And if that means simplifying it, oh, oh well, because 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:31.680 it's it's pretty you know there where they averaging points 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:34.480 against them thirty eight. I don't even know. It's it's 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:37.000 it's ridiculous. It's a lot, it's a lot. All right, 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:38.760 we're gonna take our first break when we come back. 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:41.080 There's this word that kept coming up yesterday that I 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:43.880 want to talk about. And this word is effort. And 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:46.000 I want to see what you guys think about this 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:48.680 word effort and how it relates to this team. We'll 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:50.000 do that when we come right back. 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But then he just came out 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:31.480 and gave the joke away, right, He was not implying there. 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:34.080 It was very It was I gotta work to the 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:36.040 point I work with Bucky Moore, you know what I mean, 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:39.720 Like like I try to joke with Bucky and it 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:41.760 just doesn't He doesn't. He doesn't get it all the time. 0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:44.080 I don't want to do comes on. I want to 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:46.000 tell him. I'm like, Bucky, can we get a bigger 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:49.320 microphone for you? Have you seen that microphone? Got a microphone? Yeah? 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:52.320 I was like, but whatever, Well, here's what we're doing. 0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:54.600 We're going through some of the comments that the coaches 0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:57.920 made yesterday they had their their time with media, and 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:00.479 that was a comment and actually I'm going to get 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:02.680 into two different things. There was first to comment from 0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:04.359 coach McCarthy that I want to talk about now, and 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:07.080 then we'll get into a comment to coach Nolan made 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:10.520 after that. But the basically when he was talking, he 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:13.360 was asked about the effort of the team. Coach McCarthy 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:15.800 was and he said that he doesn't really see effort 0:20:15.880 --> 0:20:19.040 as a problem and he would cause you others to 0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:22.560 be careful when questioning the effort of professional athletes from 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:25.800 the outside. So my question for you guys is, and 0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:27.919 I assume most of you, you know, obviously we all 0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:29.960 watched the game live. I assume most of us have 0:20:30.040 --> 0:20:33.119 gone back and rewatched it. What is your thought with 0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:36.960 regards to the effort, particularly of the defense in that game. 0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:38.800 Do you think it's an issue of effort or do 0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:40.880 you do you think it's an issue of skill. Let's 0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:49.000 start first with you amber certain positions. Yeah, with certain 0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:52.600 players there there's a lack of skill and just being 0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:55.119 at that level that you would want them to be, 0:20:55.359 --> 0:20:58.920 and a lack of experience as well. But when you 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:01.639 talk about the word effort, which has been going around 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:05.720 all over the place on social media and many media 0:21:05.800 --> 0:21:09.360 outlets out there, I always tend to be really careful 0:21:09.400 --> 0:21:12.800 as well, because you don't know, you never know exactly 0:21:12.880 --> 0:21:16.200 what the person is physically dealing with to where maybe 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:19.480 that is their maximum effort and it's just not being 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:22.680 to the level that you personally want them to be at. 0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:25.840 But when you look at the defense overall and just 0:21:26.000 --> 0:21:30.720 watch the game, there's just there's just fire missing just overall. 0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:34.880 It's just unusual. Even when they miss a tackle, when 0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:39.640 they get up, it's like the whole like shoulders going 0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:42.880 like this, like I miss that. There's not like I'm 0:21:43.000 --> 0:21:46.640 lacking that that passion, that anger that like man, I'm 0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:49.160 pissed off right now, I'm gonna get back up. I'm 0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:52.280