Speaker 1: One with Jenny Garth and Tory Spelling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, it was shocking.
Speaker 3: Wait what episode did you guys watch?
Speaker 2: Did you watch a different episode?
Speaker 1: And you know the part she's referring to, Yes, I do,
Speaker 1: but no, we didn't watch a different episode. So I
Speaker 1: know what you mean.
Speaker 3: This is storm warning, right, Yeah, your.
Speaker 2: Storyline, Jenny is toys is storm warning.
Speaker 1: And there's some sharks in the water and.
Speaker 3: There's crazy things happening. Oh so emotional with your papa.
Speaker 2: Yeah, two good storylines in this episode, and two that are.
Speaker 1: I can't hear Amy saying that we're jumping the sharks soon,
Speaker 1: and then that's all last episode. Then this episode, that's all.
Speaker 2: It's not jumping. It's like it's just getting a little
Speaker 2: too close.
Speaker 1: There's some sharks in the water.
Speaker 2: There's some sharks in the water.
Speaker 3: Are you I only like what you said. There's two
Speaker 3: good storylines. What besides the dad wind on his dad one?
Speaker 3: What's the other one? So?
Speaker 2: I okay, So I'm sort of intrigued by the Tracy
Speaker 2: Brandon storyline, and I'm sort of intrigued by Smith Jared
Speaker 2: don't know his name on the show, and and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: those are sort of intriguing. Tory's storyline was really good Claire.
Speaker 2: I mean, it is time for Claire to go because
Speaker 2: they have nothing to do with her.
Speaker 1: But it's not This isn't her fault. She's great, correct, not.
Speaker 2: Her fault at all, But it is so bad.
Speaker 1: Two back to back episodes. She's the comedy fodder. I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's.
Speaker 2: Just it's sort of the fodder. That's a good word.
Speaker 1: For three episodes in a row, like every episode because
Speaker 1: it was like dah and then it was the sexy,
Speaker 1: putting glue together girl.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think she likes it. You can tell
Speaker 3: she doesn't like what they're doing with her character.
Speaker 2: Hence why she leaves the show because she's like, I'm
Speaker 2: not doing anything here now.
Speaker 1: If I were them, I think Claire is great. I
Speaker 1: think her character is really valuable because she's different than
Speaker 1: the other girls and at this point she's been a
Speaker 1: main regular for a while.
Speaker 3: What would you what would you think they should do
Speaker 3: with her?
Speaker 1: I think that they should bring in her love interest,
Speaker 1: the Prince. She doesn't have to be with Steve because
Speaker 1: she holds her own as a main character at this point, Well,
Speaker 1: bring in someone for her and make it great.
Speaker 3: They did that with the with the Prince, what about him?
Speaker 3: Bring him back?
Speaker 1: They could? I don't know. I just they're doing herd disservice.
Speaker 1: But yeah, aka why she leaves?
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, well we're talking about season seven, episode
Speaker 3: twenty three, Storm Warning. It aired March nineteenth, nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 1: Synopsis. He may have two tickets to Hong Kong, but
Speaker 1: Brandon Tracy are getting nowhere fast. Doctor Martin is on
Speaker 1: the brink of death, Kelly is feeling like an empty nester,
Speaker 1: Steve is feeling used, and Rob Andrews is about to
Speaker 1: experience a Category four storm named Valerie.
Speaker 3: Hat That's funny. That was good sorry. Directed by Bethany
Speaker 3: Rooney and written by John well Blee.
Speaker 2: Interesting directing. There was a couple of parts where I
Speaker 2: was like, whoa, Like at the I can't remember if
Speaker 2: it was like right at the hospital the camera was
Speaker 2: sort of swirling a bit. There was something like where
Speaker 2: I was like, WHOA, that's sort of interesting. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: was like I felt frantic and I was like, oh
Speaker 2: that fits.
Speaker 3: Was this one of no Bethany had directed before this?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Yes? She Yeah, she did one of your best episodes.
Speaker 1: Your beloved episode. Was it Perfect Mom?
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I don't remember when she was in, but
Speaker 3: that sounds right.
Speaker 1: And is that different than the Fashion Show? I don't
Speaker 1: think so, but that was her very first directorial debut
Speaker 1: on our show was the fashion show, which was in c.
Speaker 2: Fashion show with the big incident when there was like
Speaker 2: a big fight and I think your mom, Dylan.
Speaker 1: That wasn't called Perfect Mom. Maybe not, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh, I'm thinking of the katillion never mind, I'm.
Speaker 1: Thinking like they it was mother daughter. They walked the runway,
Speaker 1: Donna walked with a different fleece.
Speaker 3: Yet different mom.
Speaker 2: Yeah, could we talk about the storyline that is the
Speaker 2: worst in this?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 1: We should? Which they keep listening to get to the best?
Speaker 3: No? Maybe maybe is it Joey? Is it Joey's storyline
Speaker 3: or is it Claire's storyline?
Speaker 2: But those are really equally Joey pretty bad, But Joey's
Speaker 2: the word. It's just you've kidnapped this child. Then you
Speaker 2: find the mom, you call the mom, and you're like, hey,
Speaker 2: you might want to like just give the detective a call.
Speaker 2: He's probably got some questions for you. Like the whole
Speaker 2: thing is so ridiculous, ridiculous.
Speaker 1: It's absurd, Just like that TV that's in our beach
Speaker 1: apartment living room.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that's all we could afford.
Speaker 1: Didn't we at some point have a different one?
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: It was such a box.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a box on like a stand. And then
Speaker 3: you remember you've always been like putting videos in that
Speaker 3: or like somebody's always doing something with that stupid TV.
Speaker 2: Oh with that TV. My problem too, is like it's
Speaker 2: almost like supposed to see how sort of bummed you
Speaker 2: are that he leaves when it's like you're not his mom,
Speaker 2: you're not his aunt, you're a stranger danger what is happening? Like?
Speaker 2: And and all the gang is just like, oh, who's
Speaker 2: your friend?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 3: Nobody's alarmed?
Speaker 2: Random kid to the to a dangerous situation too, Like
Speaker 2: if the storm were to come, you brought a kid.
Speaker 3: To the eye of the storm. Don't you think Brandon
Speaker 3: would have said something.
Speaker 2: Like who is this kid?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the voice of reason. Why isn't he reasoning
Speaker 3: with her?
Speaker 2: I mean, this is just a kid I basically kidnapped.
Speaker 1: But are the cops not into this?
Speaker 3: No, because she's decided she's just gonna find the parents,
Speaker 3: the moms on our own, but.
Speaker 1: Where are the authorities?
Speaker 2: And it was so easy for you to find the mom,
Speaker 2: Like if that was the case, why didn't the.
Speaker 1: Police, Oh my god, been so worried.
Speaker 3: It's like, what if she's been just sitting at home worrying.
Speaker 2: Or making posters. They definitely had posters everywhere, so that
Speaker 2: you were going to understand.
Speaker 3: That they care that she was like milk cartons, No,
Speaker 3: not even milk cartons, just posters, posters.
Speaker 2: But the kid either took a bus or a plane
Speaker 2: to LA there would be a record like this is
Speaker 2: not what it does.
Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense in any way.
Speaker 3: Wait, but in the nineties things were different, you guys.
Speaker 2: Yes, but still you could run away still I mean correct,
Speaker 2: But I think he took a bus or a plane.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, he took a bus or he took a bus.
Speaker 3: But so what you don't have.
Speaker 2: To give your name when you buy a bus ticket.
Speaker 3: I can give anybody's name when you buy a bus ticket.
Speaker 3: But he's twelve, I guess, I guess there's that. I mean,
Speaker 3: they would they'd be like, hmm, you're awfully small.
Speaker 2: Right at the bus depot, They're just like, yeah, no problem,
Speaker 2: here you go kid.
Speaker 1: I want to know who created the storyline. I want
Speaker 1: to know who did the research on this storyline, because
Speaker 1: sometimes while John Welpley Welpley was the main writer, as
Speaker 1: Jenna and I have said, they did it up in
Speaker 1: the writer's room. So b storyline, you write this and
Speaker 1: then they make it cohesively. He does it, But who
Speaker 1: had this story.
Speaker 2: Totally Craig crag, who did it?
Speaker 3: I don't know. How do we find out? Let's catch somebody.
Speaker 2: Each part crazier than the part before. Like it was
Speaker 2: crazy enough that you found this kid on your porch
Speaker 2: and you're like, come on in, let me make you
Speaker 2: a sandwich. And then you finally call the police they
Speaker 2: lose him. So that's totally nuts. He just walked out,
Speaker 2: finds you, and comes back, and you decide to keep him.
Speaker 2: Then you take him into the storm. Nobody is even
Speaker 2: the slightest bit flummoxed by the fact that you now
Speaker 2: have like a kid with you. Then you're super saddy.
Speaker 1: I mean it's just like, I feel like you need
Speaker 1: to talk to somebody about this. Something's going on, like
Speaker 1: I mean crazy.
Speaker 2: Like, well, we think she's pregnant.
Speaker 3: We got a glimpse into like Kelly's like going through
Speaker 3: something at the end of the way she stares at
Speaker 3: That was cool, though I was feeling lonely too lost perhaps.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was good face acting and very good ending there.
Speaker 3: Thanks for the face acting comments.
Speaker 2: Really good.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know what I love in the first scene with
Speaker 1: you and Claire, the the you know soe the blinds
Speaker 1: from outside that you looked so beautiful. It's just like
Speaker 1: and it's like cool lighting.
Speaker 3: There's a plus. It makes it worth watching something. AnyWho, Well,
Speaker 3: I'm happy. I'm pretty sure that kid's gone. He's not
Speaker 3: going to be coming running back.
Speaker 2: No, I think we're now done with it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, good and now we definitely see hell he
Speaker 3: is pining for a brand though, totally and but but
Speaker 3: he just I squealed at the TV, you know, like
Speaker 3: when you're watching Pretty the Summura I turned pretty and
Speaker 3: then they eat the peaches. That moment, like I screamed.
Speaker 3: All the girls in my house were screaming at the TV.
Speaker 3: This is the moment I was screaming at the TV, like, no, Brandon.
Speaker 1: Don't ask her to go to Hawaii.
Speaker 3: Or no, where are they going Hong Kong Kong. Don't
Speaker 3: go to Hong Kong. Don't take her. He doesn't want
Speaker 3: to take her, but he gets no.
Speaker 2: I know. It's like right, it's so, how.
Speaker 1: Come there's no? First of all, Jason Priestley, he was
Speaker 1: very happy this episode.
Speaker 2: He looked good. He looked good.
Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, but you know the episode sometimes where he's
Speaker 1: always a great actor, but it looks more serious the
Speaker 1: lines where he delivers them, and then there's the ones
Speaker 1: where he's like snacky. He was very do you know
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he was snappier in this one.
Speaker 1: Like in the first scene with Valerie. Oh yeah, and
Speaker 1: with Steve like he was.
Speaker 3: On it felt like he was.
Speaker 2: I thought he had a little bit of bad acting though,
Speaker 2: when sorry in the kitchen, when she says, you know,
Speaker 2: Valerie messes it up, Oh what's you doing with that
Speaker 2: other ticket? That was just crazy, and then she says
Speaker 2: what about the what about this other ticket? And then
Speaker 2: he sort of throws the whatever he's holding. Oh, and it.
Speaker 3: Was just like.
Speaker 1: Miss I was too focused on her terry cloth robe
Speaker 1: with a collar. It looked like a trench coat meets
Speaker 1: terry cloth rope.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I didn't like that pink shirt she had.
Speaker 2: That was like, not great for me.
Speaker 1: Pink shirt.
Speaker 2: She was wearing sort of a pink flannelly buttoned down.
Speaker 2: It wasn't great.
Speaker 3: Valor Tracy, Tracy. I'm talking about Tracy much.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about val in the kitchen with Brandon. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about the terry cloth robe because he told us
Speaker 1: that it was cream colored and it had trench, like
Speaker 1: a trench like a point.
Speaker 2: I missed that.
Speaker 3: But also, I don't think I've ever seen an outfit
Speaker 3: that they put Tracy and that made me go, oh
Speaker 3: my god, I love her outfit.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I love her this episode.
Speaker 3: Tracy's with the little Yeah, she did.
Speaker 2: Have some nice swoops. Yeah, there was some swoops I liked.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I just I can't take that much longer.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I can't take Valerie much longer.
Speaker 1: Once again, yes, that much longer.
Speaker 2: Okay, we have like a few episodes. Oh sorry and Tracy,
Speaker 2: same thing.
Speaker 3: Sorry, okay, something So she's not going to go to
Speaker 3: Hong Kong.
Speaker 2: You guys, there is a Hong Kong episode.
Speaker 3: We think of Hong Kong.
Speaker 2: I think only mister Walsh is like I'm trying to remember,
Speaker 2: but I feel like there is there's something.
Speaker 1: How come he doesn't mention like Brenda's going to be there, Brenda,
Speaker 1: your other I know someone, but your other kid hello.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: It's so it's so fragmented.
Speaker 2: And also the photo album, when your kid is looking
Speaker 2: through the photo album, it's clearly a picture of you
Speaker 2: in that dress with the bow. But then you say like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's one of my stepdads, and I'm like, no, he's
Speaker 2: not in that photo. Did you guys notice.
Speaker 3: That I didn't even notice.
Speaker 2: No, No, somebody go back with eagle eyes, because it
Speaker 2: literally was the black dress with the white bow. Do
Speaker 2: you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 3: Yes, like an iconic dress, the spring princess dress.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can clearly see it in the photo.
Speaker 2: And then you say, yeah, that's one of my stepdads.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, no, I thought you were literally going
Speaker 2: to say, yeah, that's my friend Brenda, because but then
Speaker 2: you'd say stepdad. I'm like, huh, that was weird.
Speaker 3: It's so weird. They don't talk about her.
Speaker 1: We're being told by the Great Oz that when Brandon goes,
Speaker 1: only Jim is in Hong Kong because Cindy traveled to
Speaker 1: London because Brenda has.
Speaker 3: Oh that makes perfect Okay.
Speaker 1: They didn't want to pay to.
Speaker 2: The amazing detail that she has mono because that's so nineties, Like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, you have mono?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a big nineties Did you guys ever
Speaker 3: have mono in the nineties.
Speaker 2: I never got it, Never fear remember I had it.
Speaker 3: I like just lived with it for a long time.
Speaker 2: People, I don't make out.
Speaker 1: He's gonna don't scare you. It's the kissing disease.
Speaker 3: Yeah, one of my kids recently had it. It's back.
Speaker 2: It's is it kind of like pneumonia.
Speaker 1: One of my kids had it too, and it lasts
Speaker 1: like kissing. I'm like, no, it's not just that, yike se.
Speaker 3: I can't guarantee mine didn't kiss anyone. But let's get
Speaker 3: on to another storyline. For the love of Brandon Walsh,
Speaker 3: I want to talk about Claire and Steve at all
Speaker 3: or did we already cover it?
Speaker 2: No. At first, when she's eating the burger, I was like,
Speaker 2: it's happening. I sort of liked her. Actually, at first,
Speaker 2: I was like I like this girl, and then I.
Speaker 3: Like testosterone Claire.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I liked it that they.
Speaker 3: Were talking about like hormone levels. I was like, hey,
Speaker 3: this is cutting out.
Speaker 2: I was in the nineties. Yeah, I was like, and
Speaker 2: they sort of didn't totally get it, but they were
Speaker 2: kind of trying. But I also was like, I even.
Speaker 1: Know they helped people's hormones in the nineties, especially young girls.
Speaker 3: That she takes it one she takes it one morning,
Speaker 3: and then by the evening she's a totally different person.
Speaker 3: And he's he's referencing how he can't stand it. She's
Speaker 3: so messy, she eats like a pig, like she like
Speaker 3: all these things. But it's been literally like four or
Speaker 3: five hours that they've been together.
Speaker 2: It's just the whole thing is a bit ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Wa wait, I misunderstood it.
Speaker 2: Then.
Speaker 1: I know she said I'm gonna give him a taste
Speaker 1: of his own medicine.
Speaker 2: When did we see that part? That's the part that
Speaker 2: I miss.
Speaker 3: In the apartment with Kelly. Okay, Yes, she says I
Speaker 3: know what to want.
Speaker 1: Sex all the time, Yeah, you know, and then she's like, Eh,
Speaker 1: I'm go give him a dose of his own medicine
Speaker 1: or whatever. So I thought it wasn't real.
Speaker 2: I knew it wasn't real quickly too, but she sold
Speaker 2: it pretty well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was obvious that it wasn't real, but.
Speaker 2: Right, they're not just giving Okay, okay, teenage, I.
Speaker 1: Thought you were saying, like, how come like that quickly
Speaker 1: she's turned into.
Speaker 3: I was just saying, like how fast that storyline progressed?
Speaker 2: And also that Steve believed in.
Speaker 3: Well, he's not the brightest fred on the string lights there.
Speaker 2: Sorry anyway, so absurd though, that was just another just yeah, ridiculous.
Speaker 2: It was funnier.
Speaker 3: But he has like a realization that that's what he's like.
Speaker 3: So maybe he's gonna be softer and more gentle now,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I hope not. I don't want to do.
Speaker 3: I don't want to see that. Nobody wants to see that.
Speaker 2: And then she immediately goes back to like, let's go
Speaker 2: collect sea shells. I'm just like, this is just too
Speaker 2: much for me.
Speaker 1: When she said this line in the show, I didn't
Speaker 1: understand it, but now it just hit me what it means,
Speaker 1: which lie Claire, Oh, she doesn't say he says it.
Speaker 1: Uh no, Claire, what's wrong? Is it puffy? Mean and
Speaker 1: snappy time?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh, he's talking about being on her period.
Speaker 3: No PMS, puffy mean oh and sappy nappy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I took it. It is like it was
Speaker 1: like some slang like puffy mean and snappy time. Like
Speaker 1: I didn't understand he meant puffy mean and snappy time
Speaker 1: PM mess.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I did not get that either until just now
Speaker 2: when you two.
Speaker 3: And also like the reference to the fact that guys,
Speaker 3: especially back then but probably still really do kind of
Speaker 3: when women are on their periods. They have this like
Speaker 3: whole perception of them and that gives them the liberty
Speaker 3: to make fun of them or you know, say negative
Speaker 3: things about them. And I think it's so messed up.
Speaker 3: It gets me angry. You try being on having PMS,
Speaker 3: You try having a period, let me a single month
Speaker 3: for the rest of your life until you're may.
Speaker 2: I just, on a whim say that host menopause is
Speaker 2: worse than Perry menopause because my symptoms are like way wackier.
Speaker 2: I don't know everybody perry menopause is having such a
Speaker 2: moment and I'm like, can we dig into post because
Speaker 2: this is a wreck anyway.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't honestly know that much about postmenopause, come
Speaker 3: to think about.
Speaker 2: It, are you not post menopause? Are you just living
Speaker 2: your best life? Like I feel kind of crappy.
Speaker 3: Every day it comes and goes. It's like a roller coaster.
Speaker 1: So tell me, I know, Amy, you've told me this before,
Speaker 1: or Gen tell me Perry is before.
Speaker 2: So it's like the years leading up, right, So you're
Speaker 2: still like getting a.
Speaker 1: PIM what are you while you're in it?
Speaker 2: Just wellnopa, menopause is just one day. There's just the
Speaker 2: one day where you are now not Perry and you're
Speaker 2: not post and then the day after.
Speaker 1: That your post And how do they determine this one year?
Speaker 2: So say you didn't have a period and then you
Speaker 2: never had one for a year. That day, whatever that
Speaker 2: mystery day is, is the menopause day. And then the
Speaker 2: day after that you're post menopause or you're in menopause. Interest,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't.
Speaker 1: Know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, we could do a whole show on this
Speaker 2: key way, but on this show they're really leaning into.
Speaker 1: The pm I was trying to think of a title.
Speaker 2: They're really leaning into the PMS of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird that you know, it's still it has
Speaker 3: like such a stigma and women have to deal with it.
Speaker 3: It's so annoying.
Speaker 2: At least the show's sort of addressing it, and they're
Speaker 2: sort of putting it, putting him in his place, rather
Speaker 2: than just leaning into the full stereotype. I mean, they
Speaker 2: went very stereotypical, because suddenly she's the stereotypical man. But
Speaker 2: yet at least they're trying. There's sort of a weird
Speaker 2: nineties attempt happening.
Speaker 1: What's comparable men, the men's version, Like we have menopause
Speaker 1: and there's a stigma on that.
Speaker 3: It's so like maybe that they need maybe they need viagra.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know if there's hormones or
Speaker 3: brain chemicals involved in that, but that can really do
Speaker 3: a number on guys for sure. I mean some don't
Speaker 3: get it, but some do get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, some women get it, But.
Speaker 3: I don't really think it has anything to do with
Speaker 3: anything medical. Yah're biological.
Speaker 1: I think maybe you're right. They start to lose hair.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, well we are, we already
Speaker 1: dealt with this in an episode, but what dick dies,
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You mean they you think they lose sperm count?
Speaker 1: No, they can't get it off. Yeah, they have problems
Speaker 1: like that happens at a certain age.
Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, that's why they have viagra.
Speaker 1: I don't think is that there for version of like
Speaker 1: kind of layers of stigma on it and they feel they
Speaker 1: could feel shamed.
Speaker 3: Yes, but also they've been provided with insurance covered medication
Speaker 3: for many years, whilst women have suffered in silence, and
Speaker 3: there are no medications or research to support this transition
Speaker 3: in a woman's life. So don't get me started.
Speaker 1: I just got so turned on. I love when you
Speaker 1: talk smart and medical.
Speaker 3: But things are changing because did you see how much
Speaker 3: money Uh? I think Melinda Gates got out of old Bill.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, or he did it himself. I don't know,
Speaker 3: but I really don't know how that happened. But I
Speaker 3: did read something about there's a big number going towards
Speaker 3: women's medical mm hmm.
Speaker 2: It's great, need needed.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about yes, please, Valerie.
Speaker 2: Smith Jared yep, I will call him Smith Jared.
Speaker 1: Who's Smith?
Speaker 3: Jared Smith?
Speaker 2: And Jared.
Speaker 3: Like Smith? Jared Smith?
Speaker 2: Jared Smith. Jared is his name from Sex in the City.
Speaker 3: That is not his name on the show.
Speaker 1: No, he's Rob on this Rob Andrews. Wait. Jen isn't
Speaker 1: Rob Andrews. Wasn't he one of our Fox executives?
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know. There is a Rob now at Fox?
Speaker 3: But are you typing on a computer? Is that? What's
Speaker 3: happening to your love there?
Speaker 2: But it's not Rob Andrews. It's Rob Wade.
Speaker 3: Oh it's like where are you? It literally like you
Speaker 3: were like, let me check that out and look into
Speaker 3: my computer database? Right?
Speaker 2: You know I'm not text There was a Rob Andrews, Lorraine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm telling you you guys, and and Jen we
Speaker 1: worked with him again for Am I wrong? I can
Speaker 1: be wrong?
Speaker 3: I don't Yeah, I don't think you're wrong. I think
Speaker 3: you're right.
Speaker 1: Who is Rob Andrews at Fox Network? And airy O,
Speaker 1: my god, Dorri? This is fun trivia? Who?
Speaker 3: Why is this fun?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: One?
Speaker 2: People listening are like, we stayed with you during the
Speaker 2: menopause talk, but we don't care if you're googling who
Speaker 2: the Fox executive.
Speaker 3: Was anyway, because they copied his name.
Speaker 1: They used his name.
Speaker 2: Dude is so hot and he's so nice and he
Speaker 2: really likes her and respects her, and yet once aga
Speaker 2: a mirror and she's up to her Shenanigans. I can't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta say, oh man, last week, I wasn't
Speaker 1: that into him. This week, I'm like.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, he's cute and if he can make a
Speaker 3: handcard mirror like that, seriously, I knop him around.
Speaker 2: And yet she's taking the bribe.
Speaker 3: You think she is taking it? I don't know yet.
Speaker 3: I can't remember.
Speaker 1: I don't think she's going to remember. But here's my question,
Speaker 1: you guys. They always say, like, energetically we bring the
Speaker 1: same patterns into our life. How many times, whether she
Speaker 1: takes it or not, somebody is offerware her money a
Speaker 1: bribe awareness, Why does this keep happening?
Speaker 3: She likes the cash, you guys, and.
Speaker 1: She never eluded that she would take money for it.
Speaker 1: And he's just like, I think I can make it,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's just so weird.
Speaker 1: People just do this.
Speaker 3: It's like when she sees cash, she can't control herself.
Speaker 3: Don't they call this a trope?
Speaker 2: Like the writers are just going for the same thing.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be mad at the writers because it's like,
Speaker 2: stop writing the story.
Speaker 3: I think she's really going to take the money, and
Speaker 3: that's going to ruin their relationship. Though I know she
Speaker 3: going to be like, you know what, never mind, I'm not.
Speaker 1: Going to do this because I don't remember how much
Speaker 1: was it or they didn't say ten grand.
Speaker 2: I think yeah, and there's another ten grand in it
Speaker 2: for her when he signs or something. I don't know's
Speaker 2: he only does like a handful of episodes, and so
Speaker 2: I have a feeling that she takes the money and
Speaker 2: he brings up a tho.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's my I don't remember, but I'm just
Speaker 2: saying I know that he's only around for a certain
Speaker 2: number of episodes.
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, it was a little extreme that
Speaker 1: she didn't like it, and this is why. And if
Speaker 1: he wants to play a bastard on in a film,
Speaker 1: it's like he's an actor.
Speaker 3: Why isn't Who's he listening to his brand new girlfriend
Speaker 3: that he isn't even that nice too when she comes
Speaker 3: over to see him, and then like.
Speaker 1: What's how great he was? Yeah?
Speaker 3: He is, but I don't think that there's enough of
Speaker 3: a substance of a relationship there to start taking career
Speaker 3: advice from somebody.
Speaker 2: Correct, And he's I just looked it up. He's only
Speaker 2: in four episodes and we've done two, so we only
Speaker 2: have two left with the guy.
Speaker 1: Oh, so she takes the money or she.
Speaker 3: Doesn't take the money and he goes off and does
Speaker 3: the film. I think Jen just nailed it, and then
Speaker 3: we never see him again.
Speaker 2: We'll find out. I don't even though understand, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: have to wait and see because a lot happens in
Speaker 2: the four episodes and the timeline's not adding up to me.
Speaker 2: I just peeked at what happened.
Speaker 1: A window? Is it good? Is it juicy? Wait?
Speaker 2: It's just very Valerie and it's just the same, Like God,
Speaker 2: it's the same. It's just the same old thing ginger
Speaker 2: lea Monica had to do with the money and Valerie
Speaker 2: giving her money. Then there is the baby fake baby daddy,
Speaker 2: and that might it's just like then even David Silver
Speaker 2: has the money. It's all just like, so.
Speaker 1: Wait, why don't I remember something? And also what happened
Speaker 1: with Steve's dad?
Speaker 3: She take money from him?
Speaker 1: M no, she just tried to like remember to the
Speaker 1: hotel room and he.
Speaker 2: Said no, but there was some Why was he coming?
Speaker 2: It was the money? He was doing a deal with
Speaker 2: her too.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's just and then they remember that other guy?
Speaker 3: Was she Washy or what is his Nameky? Is that
Speaker 3: I can't remember? Thanky mcgeeh, keep going, Luke Dylan's friend,
Speaker 3: the oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, Tricky Tracky, she took money,
Speaker 3: Jones Jonesy. Yeah, it's only one name, Jonesy Jonesy.
Speaker 1: Listen, you know what? They never did this to Heather
Speaker 1: Locklear Mel's. It's the same type of character, but they
Speaker 1: did so many different things with her.
Speaker 3: I mean, wait, I have a question. Okay, So if
Speaker 3: they keep doing this over and over for her character,
Speaker 3: similar to what they're doing to Claire's character, and Claire
Speaker 3: ends up leaving the show, does Valori end up leaving
Speaker 3: the show at some point?
Speaker 1: I'm not talking to you right now. I can't do
Speaker 1: this with you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't do this podcast with you anymore.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I'm actually honestly asking though. That's the worst part.
Speaker 1: Amy. Let's tell her something. So Valerie leaves at the
Speaker 1: end of season eight. Where did she go? No?
Speaker 2: I thought it was a little later, No, she I
Speaker 2: thought we went through this because I thought it was
Speaker 2: then too, And everyone raw yelled at me.
Speaker 1: You don't remember Valerie leaves Alyssa Milano comes in, Melissa Milano,
Speaker 1: she went todmaid at the wedding.
Speaker 3: What I think you're just making that something is wrong?
Speaker 3: She joins, melrose Place, you're messing with me.
Speaker 2: You're just joking.
Speaker 1: And then Lisa Renna came in season ten.
Speaker 2: Ah, that's melrose Place, you freak.
Speaker 3: I would definitely remember this.
Speaker 1: Valerie doesn't leave for a bit, and then Melissa Joonhart, Oh.
Speaker 2: My god, don't listen to Tori, you guys.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about the good storyline. Please.
Speaker 1: Valery never leave. She stays to the bitter end.
Speaker 2: No she doesn't. She does leave towards the end.
Speaker 3: What where did she go? I thought she was at
Speaker 3: my wedding. Somebody doesn't remember. I can't do this with
Speaker 3: you anymore. Week she leaves, she comes to the wedding,
Speaker 3: though she leaves.
Speaker 1: Doesn't leave, you, guys.
Speaker 2: He does. She leaves a few episodes early.
Speaker 3: It says that she leaves in season nine, episode eight.
Speaker 3: That's not a few episodes earlier. That's like the whole Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's like a big season.
Speaker 1: Why did she leave?
Speaker 3: She liked us.
Speaker 2: They do fifty million weird things to her before then
Speaker 2: it's crazy.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, where was she going that she left?
Speaker 3: Amy doesn't remember look at her.
Speaker 1: Everybody leaves Jen, we never leave. No, we never left.
Speaker 3: We still just to talk about Brandon and giving the
Speaker 3: tickets to Tracy. He should have listened to his instinct.
Speaker 3: He doesn't know give them to her.
Speaker 2: No, And then suddenly he acts like he does. He's
Speaker 2: wishy washy.
Speaker 1: He's not into her, So why does he do it?
Speaker 2: I don't understand.
Speaker 1: You see it on his face.
Speaker 2: Here's my problem with her, And she's so mad. Then
Speaker 2: she storms out, but then she goes to Malibu. Then
Speaker 2: she's sort of cold to him.
Speaker 1: Then she's me thought she said, stormed out and goes
Speaker 1: to Malibu because we're dealing with the storm.
Speaker 2: And then he asks her again do you want to go?
Speaker 2: And she says I would love to.
Speaker 3: Like it's just like she says, I'm sorry, I know,
Speaker 3: but really, this girl needs to really get garner up
Speaker 3: some more self worth because she's kind of being dicked
Speaker 3: around by.
Speaker 2: Ours or realized she's been dating this guy. She's in
Speaker 2: college and she's been dating this guy for only a
Speaker 2: handful of months.
Speaker 3: Chill out, like it's a little aggressive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't have to go to Hong Kong with
Speaker 2: a guy that you've just been dating in college. It's
Speaker 2: just like crazy.
Speaker 3: Also, they look old.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. They do not look like they're
Speaker 2: seniors in college. Four both of them look like they're thirty.
Speaker 1: How dare you? How do we look?
Speaker 3: Do we look like we're in college?
Speaker 2: In the show? Yeah, you look more so accurate?
Speaker 3: We were the right age.
Speaker 1: Honestly we actually were. Yeah, yeah, okay, they look older.
Speaker 1: Just guys go back to like your first love and
Speaker 1: like you're dating someone. Let's say she's totally in love
Speaker 1: with him, he gets invited by First of all, I
Speaker 1: cannot believe he admits to her that his parents do
Speaker 1: know about her, but you don't know what I know?
Speaker 1: That so embarrassed.
Speaker 2: That was just weird.
Speaker 1: That was just so weird. But imagine your boyfriend. You're
Speaker 1: in love with him, this is real to you. Let's
Speaker 1: say it's and even six months. You fall hard at
Speaker 1: that age, and he has two tickets and he's going
Speaker 1: to visit on Spring Bay his parents. Why would you
Speaker 1: not be crushed if it wasn't you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you would want to go.
Speaker 1: Think about we're all old and cynical now, but think
Speaker 1: about when you're in your twenties and you think every
Speaker 1: guy is going to be the one, the one for
Speaker 1: the rest of your life. Like she in her mind
Speaker 1: she's gonna marry Brandon Walsh. This is the first time
Speaker 1: to go meet his parents. I'd be pissed if I
Speaker 1: if he's had two tickets and he wasn't taking me.
Speaker 3: That's what.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was mad, right, And do he feel guilty
Speaker 1: for it now?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: But I still don't care.
Speaker 1: Why what?
Speaker 3: Because I don't want Brandon to take her? Plain and simple.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's weird too.
Speaker 1: Listen, Kelly, Taylor's because you want him.
Speaker 3: Take yourself out of it. I'm sorry, I can't it
Speaker 3: will not.
Speaker 1: Wait he ended up taking Kelly?
Speaker 2: Wait?
Speaker 1: Wait, wait, who is he taking?
Speaker 3: Don't tell me if you know?
Speaker 2: Sure, I don't remember. I'm not going to I actually
Speaker 2: don't remember.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's please go.
Speaker 2: But the next thing is weird. It's like, no, I
Speaker 2: think we were like kind of finished up the show,
Speaker 2: like it's just sort of a mess, Like this episode
Speaker 2: is just kind of like messy. And once again we
Speaker 2: just have so many disjointed storylines. Oh wait, we haven't
Speaker 2: talked about you though, Tori Donna.
Speaker 3: That's what I was saying, Oh, so.
Speaker 2: Sorry, that's a good storyline.
Speaker 3: Donna's dad has a stroke oo awful, and it was
Speaker 3: so like David watched. David was there and then you
Speaker 3: turn man, you turned on him in the hospital. You
Speaker 3: were like, it's your fault that he's here.
Speaker 1: At a moment, I know. And I was so excited
Speaker 1: when this storyline started because I was like, oh, look
Speaker 1: at them, They're not just back like after the last
Speaker 1: day with Donna's grandmother and David. I was like really like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is the Donna David energy. Yes,
Speaker 1: that is so like makes my heart as a fan.
Speaker 1: Even though she was wearing high heels and at school,
Speaker 1: does anyone do that they wear high heels?
Speaker 3: I don't think anymore. I don't think anymore.
Speaker 1: No, they did.
Speaker 3: I used to wear high heels to go to grade school.
Speaker 3: So yeah, what I used to wear high heels in
Speaker 3: sixth grade because I thought I was the.
Speaker 1: Shot define high heels, like just like a little.
Speaker 3: Like I thought I was Madonna, Like like it was
Speaker 3: a close toe pump a pump.
Speaker 2: Whoa.
Speaker 3: That would have been probably two or three inches for sure.
Speaker 3: Three I'm gonna go three because I never did anything
Speaker 3: like half ass. So I started dressing for Donna when
Speaker 3: I was in sixth grade. Yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 1: Very hard to like navigate a campus and get to
Speaker 1: class and live me. That's me. That's why I have
Speaker 1: varicos or spider babies now because Donna just always running
Speaker 1: in heels.
Speaker 3: That's so true.
Speaker 1: The scene with David and doctor Martin.
Speaker 2: Good acting because at first when he listened to his tie,
Speaker 2: I was like, oh no, this is it, this is it,
Speaker 2: and it came back to me and then I was like,
Speaker 2: oh no, maybe he's just relaxed. Nope, good acting by
Speaker 2: that guy. That guy is really good. Good acting in
Speaker 2: the hospital. I mean, that's hard.
Speaker 1: Michael Darrell, this was hard for me to watch because sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to make it all sad sad. Please
Speaker 1: do tell what your folk. My real life dad died
Speaker 1: from a stroke.
Speaker 3: So it's but later after the show.
Speaker 1: Wait, yes, yes, in two thousand and six. But this
Speaker 1: show has a way of like, it's not like they
Speaker 1: predicted the future. It's not like foreshadowing. No one could
Speaker 1: have knowd But it's heartbreaking to think when the character
Speaker 1: Brenda had a lump in her breast and Shannon went
Speaker 1: on to have cancer. And I don't know if there's
Speaker 1: hopefully there's no other things, but I'm just saying my
Speaker 1: TV dad had a stroke and then my real dad
Speaker 1: died years later from me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure that was hard to watch. Yeah, definitely,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: No, it was just fine.
Speaker 3: Yes, it was triggering, I must say, yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 2: And the performances were so good. You were really good,
Speaker 2: Brian was really good. This storyline was so well done,
Speaker 2: so well written, so well acted that it's like, that's
Speaker 2: why I'm like, Okay, that's actually so good. Even that
Speaker 2: you get mad at David, that is real, then you
Speaker 2: say sorry and he's there and the whole thing, and
Speaker 2: then we kind of have this clowney stuff at the
Speaker 2: same time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought, for sure, like why Donna would have
Speaker 3: called Kelly or told her Claire that was weird. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: nobody was there to support you, but maybe you just weren't,
Speaker 3: you know, you didn't think.
Speaker 2: Well, And there's one mention of that by you, Jenny.
Speaker 2: You say, when you get to the beach house, I
Speaker 2: can't reach David and Donna something like that to sort
Speaker 2: of acknowledge it. But yeah, I agree that you' all
Speaker 2: have cell phones. David would have called everybody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Michael Durrell one of the best humans I've ever
Speaker 1: worked with. Not only is he just as kind in
Speaker 1: real life, but he was so nurturing on set. So
Speaker 1: it wasn't hard to play watching him go through that
Speaker 1: because I really felt that for him. He really was
Speaker 1: like a father figure to me, so kind and so
Speaker 1: nurturing to me, and he was always there for me.
Speaker 1: It's a good human.
Speaker 3: Well, what do you guys rate it?
Speaker 1: What's gonna happen with this beach house? Going to keep going?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Is it the new Hollywood Hills House?
Speaker 2: No? I think we're just done with that house. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give Tory storyline a ten. Your storyline, Jenny
Speaker 2: is really bad. You're fine, but it's just it's like
Speaker 2: a four. Yeah, So I mean they I'm gonna land
Speaker 2: on like a seven.
Speaker 3: I guess I hate that. I hate that averaging things
Speaker 3: out because they know it's really not fair.
Speaker 1: At this point, it's sadly they've gone it's different shows,
Speaker 1: it's not just one shows.
Speaker 3: But it's always been that way, Like it's always been
Speaker 3: like there's some great storyline and then there's some doopy,
Speaker 3: duppy like.
Speaker 1: But it was better connected before. It's just so disjointed
Speaker 1: that it's justointed. It's very hard to watch sometimes.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna give it a ten anyway, because somebody
Speaker 3: got a ten in it. Someone going to go with
Speaker 3: that one. What's that called the learning curve? The grading
Speaker 3: and the curve? The curve, you're not really creating on
Speaker 3: a curve, no, just going to the top.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I'm gonna look. Do I enjoy it? Yes,
Speaker 2: it's a good episode too. I enjoy it.
Speaker 1: Of course.
Speaker 2: I'm not like, oh, this is painful to watch. It's
Speaker 2: just at times I'm like, this is so silly, and
Speaker 2: then whoa, this is so good. And then, like I said,
Speaker 2: the Valerie Rob relationship is really kind of interesting until
Speaker 2: the money trope, and I'm like, again.
Speaker 1: They just could have done so much more with him.
Speaker 1: They have this hot guy, like, think of some really
Speaker 1: cool storyline with the two of them. They want to
Speaker 1: keep watching them. Okay, I guess I'm gonna get it.
Speaker 1: I don't know eight point five.
Speaker 3: Yeah, fare again, I'm gonna put my foot down. You
Speaker 3: you should give it a ten because you love that storyline.
Speaker 2: I guess you could do if if part of it
Speaker 2: is a ten, it's a ten.
Speaker 3: Yep, that's my that's my new ruling of part of
Speaker 3: it is a ten, go with a ten.
Speaker 1: So people are gonna look back in podcast history and
Speaker 1: see the storm morning. The three of us gave it
Speaker 1: a ten, fine ten, ten.
Speaker 3: I love it, perfect score. Okay, what do we have
Speaker 3: next week? We have get ready for Spring Breakdown? Oh boy,
Speaker 3: that sounds intense. Oh boy, I'm excited.
Speaker 1: Breakdown Spring. It's happening, isn't it.
Speaker 3: Breakup?
Speaker 1: Breakdown, Spring, Spring Breaks, the Hong Kong Trip.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, Break twenty four. Everybody watch it.
Speaker 1: Get excited.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited. I might watch it.
Speaker 1: Hope there's no sharks in those Spring Breakdown waters.
Speaker 3: Oh that's it for today. Guys, have a great day.