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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, it was shocking.

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Speaker 3: Wait what episode did you guys watch?

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Speaker 2: Did you watch a different episode?

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Speaker 1: And you know the part she's referring to, Yes, I do,

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Speaker 3: This is storm warning, right, Yeah, your.

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Speaker 2: Storyline, Jenny is toys is storm warning.

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Speaker 1: And there's some sharks in the water and.

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Speaker 3: There's crazy things happening. Oh so emotional with your papa.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, two good storylines in this episode, and two that are.

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Speaker 1: I can't hear Amy saying that we're jumping the sharks soon,

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Speaker 1: and then that's all last episode. Then this episode, that's all.

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Speaker 2: It's not jumping. It's like it's just getting a little

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Speaker 1: There's some sharks in the water.

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Speaker 2: There's some sharks in the water.

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Speaker 3: Are you I only like what you said. There's two

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Speaker 3: good storylines. What besides the dad wind on his dad one?

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Speaker 3: What's the other one? So?

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Speaker 2: I okay, So I'm sort of intrigued by the Tracy

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Speaker 2: those are sort of intriguing. Tory's storyline was really good Claire.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it is time for Claire to go because

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Speaker 2: they have nothing to do with her.

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Speaker 1: But it's not This isn't her fault. She's great, correct, not.

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Speaker 2: Her fault at all, But it is so bad.

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Speaker 1: Two back to back episodes. She's the comedy fodder. I

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Speaker 2: Just it's sort of the fodder. That's a good word.

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Speaker 1: For three episodes in a row, like every episode because

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think she likes it. You can tell

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Speaker 3: she doesn't like what they're doing with her character.

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Speaker 2: Hence why she leaves the show because she's like, I'm

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Speaker 1: If I were them, I think Claire is great. I

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Speaker 3: What would you what would you think they should do

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Speaker 1: I think that they should bring in her love interest,

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Speaker 1: the Prince. She doesn't have to be with Steve because

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Speaker 1: she holds her own as a main character at this point, Well,

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Speaker 3: They did that with the with the Prince, what about him?

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Speaker 3: Bring him back?

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Speaker 1: They could? I don't know. I just they're doing herd disservice.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, aka why she leaves?

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Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, well we're talking about season seven, episode

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Speaker 3: twenty three, Storm Warning. It aired March nineteenth, nineteen ninety seven.

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Speaker 1: Synopsis. He may have two tickets to Hong Kong, but

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Speaker 1: Brandon Tracy are getting nowhere fast. Doctor Martin is on

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Speaker 1: the brink of death, Kelly is feeling like an empty nester,

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Speaker 1: experience a Category four storm named Valerie.

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Speaker 3: Hat That's funny. That was good sorry. Directed by Bethany

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Speaker 2: Interesting directing. There was a couple of parts where I

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Speaker 2: I was like, WHOA, that's sort of interesting. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: Was this one of no Bethany had directed before this?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Yes? She Yeah, she did one of your best episodes.

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Speaker 1: Your beloved episode. Was it Perfect Mom?

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Speaker 1: And is that different than the Fashion Show? I don't

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Speaker 1: That wasn't called Perfect Mom. Maybe not, I'm pretty sure.

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Speaker 1: Thinking like they it was mother daughter. They walked the runway,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, could we talk about the storyline that is the

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Speaker 2: But those are really equally Joey pretty bad, But Joey's

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Speaker 2: the word. It's just you've kidnapped this child. Then you

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Speaker 2: He's probably got some questions for you. Like the whole

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Speaker 1: It's absurd, Just like that TV that's in our beach

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Speaker 2: And and all the gang is just like, oh, who's

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is just a kid I basically kidnapped.

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Speaker 2: Or making posters. They definitely had posters everywhere, so that

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Speaker 2: But the kid either took a bus or a plane

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Speaker 2: to LA there would be a record like this is

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Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense in any way.

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Speaker 3: Wait, but in the nineties things were different, you guys.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but still you could run away still I mean correct,

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Speaker 2: But I think he took a bus or a plane.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, he took a bus or he took a bus.

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Speaker 3: But so what you don't have.

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Speaker 3: I can give anybody's name when you buy a bus ticket.

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Speaker 1: I want to know who created the storyline. I want

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Speaker 2: Totally Craig crag, who did it?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. How do we find out? Let's catch somebody.

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Speaker 2: Each part crazier than the part before. Like it was

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Speaker 2: Then you take him into the storm. Nobody is even

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Speaker 1: I mean it's just like, I feel like you need

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Speaker 2: Like, well, we think she's pregnant.

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Speaker 3: We got a glimpse into like Kelly's like going through

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Speaker 3: That was cool, though I was feeling lonely too lost perhaps.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was good face acting and very good ending there.

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Speaker 2: No, I think we're now done with it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, good and now we definitely see hell he

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Speaker 3: This is the moment I was screaming at the TV, like, no, Brandon.

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Speaker 1: Don't ask her to go to Hawaii.

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Speaker 3: Or no, where are they going Hong Kong Kong. Don't

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Speaker 1: Come there's no? First of all, Jason Priestley, he was

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Speaker 2: He looked good. He looked good.

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Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, but you know the episode sometimes where he's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he was snappier in this one.

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Speaker 1: Like in the first scene with Valerie. Oh yeah, and

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Speaker 2: No, No, somebody go back with eagle eyes, because it

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Speaker 3: Yes, like an iconic dress, the spring princess dress.

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Speaker 1: We're being told by the Great Oz that when Brandon goes,

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Speaker 3: Oh that makes perfect Okay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a big nineties Did you guys ever

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Speaker 2: I never got it, Never fear remember I had it.

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Speaker 2: People, I don't make out.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna don't scare you. It's the kissing disease.

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Speaker 1: like kissing. I'm like, no, it's not just that, yike se.

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Speaker 3: I can't guarantee mine didn't kiss anyone. But let's get

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Speaker 2: No. At first, when she's eating the burger, I was like,

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Speaker 3: That she takes it one she takes it one morning,

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Speaker 2: It's just the whole thing is a bit ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: When did we see that part? That's the part that

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Speaker 3: In the apartment with Kelly. Okay, Yes, she says I

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Speaker 1: Sex all the time, Yeah, you know, and then she's like, Eh,

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Speaker 2: I knew it wasn't real quickly too, but she sold

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was obvious that it wasn't real, but.

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Speaker 2: Right, they're not just giving Okay, okay, teenage, I.

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Speaker 1: Thought you were saying, like, how come like that quickly

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Speaker 3: I was just saying, like how fast that storyline progressed?

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Speaker 2: And also that Steve believed in.

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Speaker 3: Well, he's not the brightest fred on the string lights there.

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Speaker 2: Sorry anyway, so absurd though, that was just another just yeah, ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: But he has like a realization that that's what he's like.

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Speaker 3: So maybe he's gonna be softer and more gentle now,

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Speaker 1: I hope not. I don't want to do.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to see that. Nobody wants to see that.

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Speaker 2: And then she immediately goes back to like, let's go

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Speaker 1: When she said this line in the show, I didn't

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Speaker 1: which lie Claire, Oh, she doesn't say he says it.

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Speaker 1: Uh no, Claire, what's wrong? Is it puffy? Mean and

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Oh, he's talking about being on her period.

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Speaker 3: No PMS, puffy mean oh and sappy nappy.

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Speaker 2: I just, on a whim say that host menopause is

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Speaker 2: I don't know everybody perry menopause is having such a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't honestly know that much about postmenopause, come

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Speaker 2: It, are you not post menopause? Are you just living

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Speaker 3: Every day it comes and goes. It's like a roller coaster.

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Speaker 1: So tell me, I know, Amy, you've told me this before,

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Speaker 2: So it's like the years leading up, right, So you're

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't.

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Speaker 1: The pm I was trying to think of a title.

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Speaker 2: At least the show's sort of addressing it, and they're

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Speaker 1: What's comparable men, the men's version, Like we have menopause

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Speaker 3: It's so like maybe that they need maybe they need viagra.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know if there's hormones or

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Speaker 1: Yeah, some women get it, But.

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Speaker 3: I don't really think it has anything to do with

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Speaker 1: I think maybe you're right. They start to lose hair.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, well we are, we already

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Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: You mean they you think they lose sperm count?

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Speaker 1: No, they can't get it off. Yeah, they have problems

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Speaker 1: I don't think is that there for version of like

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Speaker 3: Yes, but also they've been provided with insurance covered medication

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Speaker 1: I just got so turned on. I love when you

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Speaker 3: But things are changing because did you see how much

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Speaker 2: It's great, need needed.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about yes, please, Valerie.

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Speaker 2: Smith Jared yep, I will call him Smith Jared.

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Speaker 1: Who's Smith?

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Speaker 3: Jared Smith?

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Speaker 2: And Jared.

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Speaker 3: Like Smith? Jared Smith?

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Speaker 2: Jared Smith. Jared is his name from Sex in the City.

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Speaker 3: That is not his name on the show.

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Speaker 3: I don't, I don't know.

445
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:28,360
Speaker 2: I don't know. There is a Rob now at Fox?

446
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 3: But are you typing on a computer? Is that? What's

447
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 3: happening to your love there?

448
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,479
Speaker 2: But it's not Rob Andrews. It's Rob Wade.

449
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 3: Oh it's like where are you? It literally like you

450
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 3: were like, let me check that out and look into

451
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 3: my computer database? Right?

452
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 2: You know I'm not text There was a Rob Andrews, Lorraine.

453
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm telling you you guys, and and Jen we

454
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 1: worked with him again for Am I wrong? I can

455
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 1: be wrong?

456
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,120
Speaker 3: I don't Yeah, I don't think you're wrong. I think

457
00:23:59,119 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 3: you're right.

458
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 1: Who is Rob Andrews at Fox Network? And airy O,

459
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 1: my god, Dorri? This is fun trivia? Who?

460
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 3: Why is this fun?

461
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 2: No?

462
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 1: One?

463
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 2: People listening are like, we stayed with you during the

464
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 2: menopause talk, but we don't care if you're googling who

465
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 2: the Fox executive.

466
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 3: Was anyway, because they copied his name.

467
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 1: They used his name.

468
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 2: Dude is so hot and he's so nice and he

469
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 2: really likes her and respects her, and yet once aga

470
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 2: a mirror and she's up to her Shenanigans. I can't.

471
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta say, oh man, last week, I wasn't

472
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 1: that into him. This week, I'm like.

473
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, he's cute and if he can make a

474
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 3: handcard mirror like that, seriously, I knop him around.

475
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 2: And yet she's taking the bribe.

476
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 3: You think she is taking it? I don't know yet.

477
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 3: I can't remember.

478
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 1: I don't think she's going to remember. But here's my question,

479
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: you guys. They always say, like, energetically we bring the

480
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: same patterns into our life. How many times, whether she

481
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: takes it or not, somebody is offerware her money a

482
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 1: bribe awareness, Why does this keep happening?

483
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 3: She likes the cash, you guys, and.

484
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: She never eluded that she would take money for it.

485
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: And he's just like, I think I can make it,

486
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: you know.

487
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's just so weird.

488
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 1: People just do this.

489
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 3: It's like when she sees cash, she can't control herself.

490
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 3: Don't they call this a trope?

491
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 2: Like the writers are just going for the same thing.

492
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be mad at the writers because it's like,

493
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 2: stop writing the story.

494
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 3: I think she's really going to take the money, and

495
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 3: that's going to ruin their relationship. Though I know she

496
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 3: going to be like, you know what, never mind, I'm not.

497
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 1: Going to do this because I don't remember how much

498
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: was it or they didn't say ten grand.

499
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 2: I think yeah, and there's another ten grand in it

500
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 2: for her when he signs or something. I don't know's

501
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 2: he only does like a handful of episodes, and so

502
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 2: I have a feeling that she takes the money and

503
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 2: he brings up a tho.

504
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 3: That's what I'm I don't know.

505
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,959
Speaker 2: I mean, that's my I don't remember, but I'm just

506
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 2: saying I know that he's only around for a certain

507
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 2: number of episodes.

508
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, it was a little extreme that

509
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: she didn't like it, and this is why. And if

510
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 1: he wants to play a bastard on in a film,

511
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: it's like he's an actor.

512
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 3: Why isn't Who's he listening to his brand new girlfriend

513
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 3: that he isn't even that nice too when she comes

514
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 3: over to see him, and then like.

515
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 1: What's how great he was? Yeah?

516
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 3: He is, but I don't think that there's enough of

517
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 3: a substance of a relationship there to start taking career

518
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 3: advice from somebody.

519
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 2: Correct, And he's I just looked it up. He's only

520
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 2: in four episodes and we've done two, so we only

521
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 2: have two left with the guy.

522
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 1: Oh, so she takes the money or she.

523
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 3: Doesn't take the money and he goes off and does

524
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 3: the film. I think Jen just nailed it, and then

525
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 3: we never see him again.

526
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 2: We'll find out. I don't even though understand, I'm gonna

527
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,959
Speaker 2: have to wait and see because a lot happens in

528
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 2: the four episodes and the timeline's not adding up to me.

529
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 2: I just peeked at what happened.

530
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 1: A window? Is it good? Is it juicy? Wait?

531
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 2: It's just very Valerie and it's just the same, Like God,

532
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 2: it's the same. It's just the same old thing ginger

533
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 2: lea Monica had to do with the money and Valerie

534
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 2: giving her money. Then there is the baby fake baby daddy,

535
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 2: and that might it's just like then even David Silver

536
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 2: has the money. It's all just like, so.

537
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: Wait, why don't I remember something? And also what happened

538
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: with Steve's dad?

539
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:55,360
Speaker 3: She take money from him?

540
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: M no, she just tried to like remember to the

541
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: hotel room and he.

542
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 2: Said no, but there was some Why was he coming?

543
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,239
Speaker 2: It was the money? He was doing a deal with

544
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 2: her too.

545
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 3: Yes, it's just and then they remember that other guy?

546
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 3: Was she Washy or what is his Nameky? Is that

547
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 3: I can't remember? Thanky mcgeeh, keep going, Luke Dylan's friend,

548
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 3: the oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, Tricky Tracky, she took money,

549
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 3: Jones Jonesy. Yeah, it's only one name, Jonesy Jonesy.

550
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: Listen, you know what? They never did this to Heather

551
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: Locklear Mel's. It's the same type of character, but they

552
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: did so many different things with her.

553
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 3: I mean, wait, I have a question. Okay, So if

554
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,719
Speaker 3: they keep doing this over and over for her character,

555
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 3: similar to what they're doing to Claire's character, and Claire

556
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 3: ends up leaving the show, does Valori end up leaving

557
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 3: the show at some point?

558
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: I'm not talking to you right now. I can't do

559
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: this with you.

560
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't do this podcast with you anymore.

561
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: I didn't.

562
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 2: You know.

563
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 3: I'm actually honestly asking though. That's the worst part.

564
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: Amy. Let's tell her something. So Valerie leaves at the

565
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: end of season eight. Where did she go? No?

566
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 2: I thought it was a little later, No, she I

567
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 2: thought we went through this because I thought it was

568
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 2: then too, And everyone raw yelled at me.

569
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: You don't remember Valerie leaves Alyssa Milano comes in, Melissa Milano,

570
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: she went todmaid at the wedding.

571
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 3: What I think you're just making that something is wrong?

572
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 3: She joins, melrose Place, you're messing with me.

573
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 2: You're just joking.

574
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: And then Lisa Renna came in season ten.

575
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 2: Ah, that's melrose Place, you freak.

576
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 3: I would definitely remember this.

577
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: Valerie doesn't leave for a bit, and then Melissa Joonhart, Oh.

578
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 2: My god, don't listen to Tori, you guys.

579
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 3: Let's talk about the good storyline. Please.

580
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: Valery never leave. She stays to the bitter end.

581
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 2: No she doesn't. She does leave towards the end.

582
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 3: What where did she go? I thought she was at

583
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 3: my wedding. Somebody doesn't remember. I can't do this with

584
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 3: you anymore. Week she leaves, she comes to the wedding,

585
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 3: though she leaves.

586
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: Doesn't leave, you, guys.

587
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 2: He does. She leaves a few episodes early.

588
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 3: It says that she leaves in season nine, episode eight.

589
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 3: That's not a few episodes earlier. That's like the whole Yeah,

590
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 3: it's like a big season.

591
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: Why did she leave?

592
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 3: She liked us.

593
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 2: They do fifty million weird things to her before then

594
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 2: it's crazy.

595
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: Oh boy, where was she going that she left?

596
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 3: Amy doesn't remember look at her.

597
00:30:51,080 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: Everybody leaves Jen, we never leave. No, we never left.

598
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 3: We still just to talk about Brandon and giving the

599
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 3: tickets to Tracy. He should have listened to his instinct.

600
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 3: He doesn't know give them to her.

601
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 2: No, And then suddenly he acts like he does. He's

602
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 2: wishy washy.

603
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: He's not into her, So why does he do it?

604
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 2: I don't understand.

605
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: You see it on his face.

606
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 2: Here's my problem with her, And she's so mad. Then

607
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: she storms out, but then she goes to Malibu. Then

608
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 2: she's sort of cold to him.

609
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: Then she's me thought she said, stormed out and goes

610
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: to Malibu because we're dealing with the storm.

611
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 2: And then he asks her again do you want to go?

612
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 2: And she says I would love to.

613
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 3: Like it's just like she says, I'm sorry, I know,

614
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 3: but really, this girl needs to really get garner up

615
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 3: some more self worth because she's kind of being dicked

616
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 3: around by.

617
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: Ours or realized she's been dating this guy. She's in

618
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 2: college and she's been dating this guy for only a

619
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: handful of months.

620
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 3: Chill out, like it's a little aggressive.

621
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't have to go to Hong Kong with

622
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 2: a guy that you've just been dating in college. It's

623
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 2: just like crazy.

624
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 3: Also, they look old.

625
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. They do not look like they're

626
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: seniors in college. Four both of them look like they're thirty.

627
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: How dare you? How do we look?

628
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 3: Do we look like we're in college?

629
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 2: In the show? Yeah, you look more so accurate?

630
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 3: We were the right age.

631
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: Honestly we actually were. Yeah, yeah, okay, they look older.

632
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: Just guys go back to like your first love and

633
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: like you're dating someone. Let's say she's totally in love

634
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: with him, he gets invited by First of all, I

635
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: cannot believe he admits to her that his parents do

636
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: know about her, but you don't know what I know?

637
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: That so embarrassed.

638
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: That was just weird.

639
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: That was just so weird. But imagine your boyfriend. You're

640
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: in love with him, this is real to you. Let's

641
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: say it's and even six months. You fall hard at

642
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: that age, and he has two tickets and he's going

643
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: to visit on Spring Bay his parents. Why would you

644
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: not be crushed if it wasn't you.

645
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, you would want to go.

646
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: Think about we're all old and cynical now, but think

647
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: about when you're in your twenties and you think every

648
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: guy is going to be the one, the one for

649
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: the rest of your life. Like she in her mind

650
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: she's gonna marry Brandon Walsh. This is the first time

651
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: to go meet his parents. I'd be pissed if I

652
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: if he's had two tickets and he wasn't taking me.

653
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 3: That's what.

654
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was mad, right, And do he feel guilty

655
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: for it now?

656
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 2: No?

657
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 3: But I still don't care.

658
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: Why what?

659
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 3: Because I don't want Brandon to take her? Plain and simple.

660
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's weird too.

661
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: Listen, Kelly, Taylor's because you want him.

662
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 3: Take yourself out of it. I'm sorry, I can't it

663
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 3: will not.

664
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: Wait he ended up taking Kelly?

665
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:55,719
Speaker 2: Wait?

666
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: Wait, wait, who is he taking?

667
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 3: Don't tell me if you know?

668
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: Sure, I don't remember. I'm not going to I actually

669
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 2: don't remember.

670
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 3: Okay, let's please go.

671
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 2: But the next thing is weird. It's like, no, I

672
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 2: think we were like kind of finished up the show,

673
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 2: like it's just sort of a mess, Like this episode

674
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 2: is just kind of like messy. And once again we

675
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 2: just have so many disjointed storylines. Oh wait, we haven't

676
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 2: talked about you though, Tori Donna.

677
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 3: That's what I was saying, Oh, so.

678
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 2: Sorry, that's a good storyline.

679
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 3: Donna's dad has a stroke oo awful, and it was

680
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 3: so like David watched. David was there and then you

681
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 3: turn man, you turned on him in the hospital. You

682
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 3: were like, it's your fault that he's here.

683
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: At a moment, I know. And I was so excited

684
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: when this storyline started because I was like, oh, look

685
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: at them, They're not just back like after the last

686
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: day with Donna's grandmother and David. I was like really like,

687
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is the Donna David energy. Yes,

688
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: that is so like makes my heart as a fan.

689
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: Even though she was wearing high heels and at school,

690
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: does anyone do that they wear high heels?

691
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 3: I don't think anymore. I don't think anymore.

692
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 1: No, they did.

693
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 3: I used to wear high heels to go to grade school.

694
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 3: So yeah, what I used to wear high heels in

695
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 3: sixth grade because I thought I was the.

696
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: Shot define high heels, like just like a little.

697
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 3: Like I thought I was Madonna, Like like it was

698
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 3: a close toe pump a pump.

699
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 2: Whoa.

700
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 3: That would have been probably two or three inches for sure.

701
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 3: Three I'm gonna go three because I never did anything

702
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 3: like half ass. So I started dressing for Donna when

703
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 3: I was in sixth grade. Yeah, oh my god.

704
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: Very hard to like navigate a campus and get to

705
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: class and live me. That's me. That's why I have

706
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 1: varicos or spider babies now because Donna just always running

707
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 1: in heels.

708
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 3: That's so true.

709
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,720
Speaker 1: The scene with David and doctor Martin.

710
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 2: Good acting because at first when he listened to his tie,

711
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 2: I was like, oh no, this is it, this is it,

712
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 2: and it came back to me and then I was like,

713
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 2: oh no, maybe he's just relaxed. Nope, good acting by

714
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 2: that guy. That guy is really good. Good acting in

715
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 2: the hospital. I mean, that's hard.

716
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: Michael Darrell, this was hard for me to watch because sorry,

717
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: I'm not going to make it all sad sad. Please

718
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,959
Speaker 1: do tell what your folk. My real life dad died

719
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: from a stroke.

720
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 3: So it's but later after the show.

721
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: Wait, yes, yes, in two thousand and six. But this

722
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: show has a way of like, it's not like they

723
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: predicted the future. It's not like foreshadowing. No one could

724
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: have knowd But it's heartbreaking to think when the character

725
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: Brenda had a lump in her breast and Shannon went

726
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: on to have cancer. And I don't know if there's

727
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: hopefully there's no other things, but I'm just saying my

728
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: TV dad had a stroke and then my real dad

729
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: died years later from me.

730
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure that was hard to watch. Yeah, definitely,

731
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

732
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: No, it was just fine.

733
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 3: Yes, it was triggering, I must say, yeah, I'm sure.

734
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 2: And the performances were so good. You were really good,

735
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 2: Brian was really good. This storyline was so well done,

736
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 2: so well written, so well acted that it's like, that's

737
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 2: why I'm like, Okay, that's actually so good. Even that

738
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 2: you get mad at David, that is real, then you

739
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 2: say sorry and he's there and the whole thing, and

740
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 2: then we kind of have this clowney stuff at the

741
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 2: same time.

742
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought, for sure, like why Donna would have

743
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 3: called Kelly or told her Claire that was weird. Yeah, yeah,

744
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 3: nobody was there to support you, but maybe you just weren't,

745
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 3: you know, you didn't think.

746
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: Well, And there's one mention of that by you, Jenny.

747
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 2: You say, when you get to the beach house, I

748
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,439
Speaker 2: can't reach David and Donna something like that to sort

749
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 2: of acknowledge it. But yeah, I agree that you' all

750
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 2: have cell phones. David would have called everybody.

751
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Michael Durrell one of the best humans I've ever

752
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: worked with. Not only is he just as kind in

753
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: real life, but he was so nurturing on set. So

754
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: it wasn't hard to play watching him go through that

755
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: because I really felt that for him. He really was

756
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: like a father figure to me, so kind and so

757
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: nurturing to me, and he was always there for me.

758
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: It's a good human.

759
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 3: Well, what do you guys rate it?

760
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: What's gonna happen with this beach house? Going to keep going?

761
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 2: No?

762
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: Is it the new Hollywood Hills House?

763
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 2: No? I think we're just done with that house. I mean,

764
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give Tory storyline a ten. Your storyline, Jenny

765
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 2: is really bad. You're fine, but it's just it's like

766
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 2: a four. Yeah, So I mean they I'm gonna land

767
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 2: on like a seven.

768
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,280
Speaker 3: I guess I hate that. I hate that averaging things

769
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 3: out because they know it's really not fair.

770
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: At this point, it's sadly they've gone it's different shows,

771
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: it's not just one shows.

772
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 3: But it's always been that way, Like it's always been

773
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 3: like there's some great storyline and then there's some doopy,

774
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 3: duppy like.

775
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: But it was better connected before. It's just so disjointed

776
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: that it's justointed. It's very hard to watch sometimes.

777
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:42,240
Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna give it a ten anyway, because somebody

778
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 3: got a ten in it. Someone going to go with

779
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 3: that one. What's that called the learning curve? The grading

780
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 3: and the curve? The curve, you're not really creating on

781
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,959
Speaker 3: a curve, no, just going to the top.

782
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I'm gonna look. Do I enjoy it? Yes,

783
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 2: it's a good episode too. I enjoy it.

784
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: Of course.

785
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 2: I'm not like, oh, this is painful to watch. It's

786
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: just at times I'm like, this is so silly, and

787
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 2: then whoa, this is so good. And then, like I said,

788
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 2: the Valerie Rob relationship is really kind of interesting until

789
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 2: the money trope, and I'm like, again.

790
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 1: They just could have done so much more with him.

791
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: They have this hot guy, like, think of some really

792
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: cool storyline with the two of them. They want to

793
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: keep watching them. Okay, I guess I'm gonna get it.

794
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 1: I don't know eight point five.

795
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, fare again, I'm gonna put my foot down. You

796
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 3: you should give it a ten because you love that storyline.

797
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 2: I guess you could do if if part of it

798
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 2: is a ten, it's a ten.

799
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 3: Yep, that's my that's my new ruling of part of

800
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 3: it is a ten, go with a ten.

801
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: So people are gonna look back in podcast history and

802
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: see the storm morning. The three of us gave it

803
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: a ten, fine ten, ten.

804
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 3: I love it, perfect score. Okay, what do we have

805
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 3: next week? We have get ready for Spring Breakdown? Oh boy,

806
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 3: that sounds intense. Oh boy, I'm excited.

807
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: Breakdown Spring. It's happening, isn't it.

808
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 3: Breakup?

809
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: Breakdown, Spring, Spring Breaks, the Hong Kong Trip.

810
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 3: Oh wow, Break twenty four. Everybody watch it.

811
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: Get excited.

812
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited. I might watch it.

813
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: Hope there's no sharks in those Spring Breakdown waters.

814
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 3: Oh that's it for today. Guys, have a great day.