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Speaker 1: Patriot's Unfiltered. That thing has legs. Huh, I love it

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Speaker 1: like Stanley Morgan and his prime. I can't wait until November.

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Speaker 1: watch Bobby who are highlight when he goes end to end.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here

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Speaker 1: at Gillette Stadium, and we're here for the next two hours.

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Speaker 1: It's Deuce, it's Paul, it's Matisse joining in, and I

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Speaker 1: think regular listens the show have been introduced to him before,

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Speaker 1: but um, he's the draft Guru Draft. I'm back, I'm back,

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Speaker 1: You're back, and maps in the booth. So the next

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Speaker 1: Little Stranger Things roundtable. Prior to the show, we all

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Speaker 1: finished up, so we were free to say whatever we

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Speaker 1: wanted to say. Yeah, yeah, good season, Yeah, great job.

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Speaker 1: Kate Bush and Metallica all over the radio. It's this

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Speaker 1: amazing the influence that this show. Good effort. I love it,

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Speaker 1: to wrap it up and satisfy everybody, right perfect. You

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Speaker 1: know you're wondering in how much longer can they go? Uh?

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Speaker 1: You know, would I know they have another season, but

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Speaker 1: next season? Couldn't you have just made the big conflict

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Speaker 1: Patriots nikkil Harry, what happened? Oh yeah, it finally happened.

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Speaker 1: Scary Harry, Scary Harry. Yeah. The only thing that I

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Speaker 1: recommend skip Jacks, although they have a bar, Scorpion Bar. Yeah,

423
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,160
Speaker 1: it's some Margarita's. Yeah. If you're looking for older women,

424
00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,760
Speaker 1: Davio's at the bar. I got a few buddies that

425
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Speaker 1: might get over. Yeah, Zach, Zach Wilson COOKI Yeah, Zach

426
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Speaker 1: Wilson's all over our group chat. Yeah you might if

427
00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 1: if it's like, you know, ten to twelve guys, you

428
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,439
Speaker 1: might want to venture down to Providence, which is about,

429
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,560
Speaker 1: you know, thirty forty minutes away south. Um, there's some

430
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Speaker 1: good establishments down there. It's the train still is the

431
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,840
Speaker 1: train still running out of here to go up into Boston?

432
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,920
Speaker 1: Still or not? Now? COVID killed it? Yeah, I figured, yeah,

433
00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,439
Speaker 1: cod really helpful to still the humulial stuff. I um,

434
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 1: you know, winner loose, gonna be a lot of diet

435
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:09,920
Speaker 1: millers shout out the ball. I'll leave it with a

436
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 1: fun little game, because I heard you guys talking about

437
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 1: it before you got me on if you had to

438
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 1: put a song on to protect you from Bevecna, because

439
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,840
Speaker 1: I do love that cake. Let's let's grove tonight. This

440
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 1: has already been discussing. Ahold oh oh. So what would

441
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 1: be my go to song? Right? Yeah, yeah, so tough.

442
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:30,680
Speaker 1: I think it would be long cool woman in a

443
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 1: black dress by the Hot Yeah, not bad. I got

444
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 1: offer You by Janet Jackson. Here's a good song. It's

445
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 1: a jam. Yeah, I think maybe a little immigrant song.

446
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 1: I like Zepttle hard rock all right, maybe anybody has

447
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:53,439
Speaker 1: a look less hard inside on the inside. On the inside,

448
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 1: I'm a rock side on the answer doesn't mean look

449
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 1: a little like Lars and Metallian. You know that that

450
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,920
Speaker 1: metalli a documentary ruined Metallica for me? Did you see

451
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 1: that some kind of monster back in the day where

452
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 1: it was like you. It went from like Metallica being

453
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 1: these larger than life, scary metal heads to like a

454
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 1: bunch of artsy guys sitting around trying to figure out

455
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: how to write a song, right, just like completely undercut

456
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 1: everything that I thought about Metallica being total badasses. And

457
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 1: it's like, Uh, what's this the guitarist? I'm blanking? I

458
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 1: was day, But you know he's just like this, like

459
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 1: very harmless, nice guy. I don't know, it's just perception

460
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 1: in reality. All right, Joe, thanks for the call. What

461
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 1: was your song? Paul? Forget? Let's grove, Let's groove, Let's

462
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:41,239
Speaker 1: groove tonight? All right? Share the spice of lad uh.

463
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Speaker 1: Jean Luke is from Tennessee, but previously from Rhode Island.

464
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Speaker 1: I wonder if with the name like Jean Luke, he

465
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Speaker 1: probably does. He's one of the few people Eric talks

466
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Speaker 1: to him. What do you guys think of the depth chart?

467
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 1: I know it says official, but I find it interesting

468
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 1: that the offense is now set up with a two

469
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: tight end formation, So could that open up the possibility

470
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 1: of four tight ends or more on the roster. Don't

471
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 1: don't put anything into that, just as people that are,

472
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 1: you know, involved in the formations of such depth charts,

473
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: please do not read anything into it. It's just basically

474
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Speaker 1: listing all the players at the positions that there. There's

475
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 1: no strategy involved. Now, they don't tell us, hey, you

476
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 1: might want to switch from the three wide receiver look

477
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 1: to the two tight end looks. In fact that they

478
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 1: in fact, they would probably prefer us not to even

479
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 1: put it up there because we get questions like this.

480
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Speaker 1: He goes on to say, is there an official name

481
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Speaker 1: for the defensive scheme of three defensive line three linebackers

482
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Speaker 1: five dbs? And is it a new type of defensive scheme?

483
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: If not, how long has it been around? Three? Five? Yeah? Yeah,

484
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 1: two five, three, three five? Those are probably the two

485
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Speaker 1: most is sort of turn into their base Yeah, yeah, Last,

486
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 1: but not last, but not least always watching those video games. Sorry, last,

487
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 1: but not least, Fred, you seem to be on a

488
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: roll when it came to uniform ideas. White helmet with

489
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 1: the flying of his's logo, with blue jersey, white pants.

490
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Speaker 1: I would love to see a red, white and blue

491
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 1: uniform combination. Yeah, I would too. I mean, I know

492
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to throwbacks. They had the jersey reveal,

493
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 1: but I'd love to see the red jersey with a

494
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Speaker 1: white helmet. In the elvis like a mix, like a

495
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: like a mash up kind of Yeah, a little a

496
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Speaker 1: little something old something borrowed something blue ye something elvis something. Okay,

497
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: you're going to um get a long show, Bradley writes

498
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Speaker 1: in uh, he says, hey, ladies and gents and deuce,

499
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Speaker 1: I'm finally getting to watch a Patriots game at Foxboro

500
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: this year, nice um, and hopefully watch them beat the Colts.

501
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 1: This will be my first time taking a trip to

502
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Speaker 1: the area. I'm looking for some advice. Would it be

503
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 1: best to stay in Boston or elsewhere? Are there areas

504
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 1: to avoid and other fun things to do on a

505
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: long weekend. Good food places would also be greatly appreciate.

506
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: If you're gonna come way in advance, like a few days,

507
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,719
Speaker 1: I would say stay in Boston too, right, and then

508
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: if you can transfer down to Foxborough. But you know,

509
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: you you know, there's not much here other than Patriot

510
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 1: Place in the stadium. Yep. Yeah, if you can stay

511
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: here maybe the night before the game or even after,

512
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: just have a place to go, not have to worry

513
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 1: about getting in getting out. But if you're gonna be

514
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: here and visiting, I think Boston for sure. And they

515
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,239
Speaker 1: do the train out of Boston, so you know there

516
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: is there are ways to get down here. Yeah. It's

517
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,479
Speaker 1: also not a bad drive. Yeah. Now, but if you're

518
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Speaker 1: gonna if you're gonna get the experience. I think Boston

519
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 1: is the place to go. Yep, No North then there's

520
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: so many things Newberry Street, the whole Back Bay area,

521
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 1: you know, freedom people, lots of restaurants. Now ye make

522
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: way for ducklings. I mean, I'll forget Dorchester, right Westy

523
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: any other part of the city that we haven't mentioned, North,

524
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: south End, South h Mitch's in Albany. I gotta say,

525
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit sad about Nikil Harry being traded.

526
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 1: I always liked him and thought he could eventually turn

527
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: out to be a good receiver. I guess I'm just

528
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 1: an idiot because he was absolutely useless for the Patriots.

529
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: Seeing him make the occasional contested catch gave me false

530
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Speaker 1: hope that he could do anything as a receiver in

531
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Speaker 1: the NFL. I'm surprised we even managed to get a

532
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: seventh round pick Farewell in the Kiel Well that turned.

533
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest with you. The whole beginning of

534
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: the email, I was thinking it was one of those

535
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 1: sardcastic emails. Yeah, so he was just thinking it was genuine.

536
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: I think he kept waiting every year. Tony writes in

537
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: The Harry Debacle is even worse then were the Chad

538
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: Jackson Dopson picks. At least those two were second round picks,

539
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: overruling his scouting staff to instead heed the recommendation of

540
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: Harry's college coaches. Frankly general manager malpractice. Maybe the atrocious

541
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: pick of the legendary Dominic Easley, who limped onto the

542
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: Patriots training camp fields that first year like he was

543
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: Walter Brennan or Jed Clampett, was equally horrific. But no

544
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: first round pick by coach Goat has been quantifiably worse

545
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: than Harry. To think Deebo, samuel A. J. Brown, DK Metcalf,

546
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: Dion Johnson, Terry mcglau were all available on the draft

547
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: board at wide receiver makes me want to throw up

548
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 1: in my mouth. To paraphrase Bill Parcels, tell us how

549
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: you really feel? Yeah, yeah, I mean it's hard to

550
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: argue that that Harry doesn't set atop the moves, especially

551
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: not even just because of the player, I think because

552
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: of the timing of it at this kind of critical

553
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: juncture as you were getting at the end of Brady's career,

554
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 1: and you know, had they hit on that one, one,

555
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: had it you know, been one of those players that

556
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: that he mentioned, like I said, things might have been

557
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: a little bit different. So okay, So if if that

558
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 1: story is true that Bill leaned on the recommendation, wanted

559
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: to get to that. Yeah, if it's true, does Bill

560
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: go back and say you screwed me? Or you know? Sure?

561
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: You know? I mean, I hope. So just my whole

562
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,360
Speaker 1: feeling on these kinds of things always, I'm pretty consistent

563
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 1: with it. It's like, I understand that that story's out there,

564
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: and I think we all can interpret ourselves like which parts.

565
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: And you know, Mike was teasing me earlier, like you

566
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: know the things that I sort of I treat. Yeah, no,

567
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: I buy that on things that I don't buy. But

568
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: what I never do is just completely accept everything as fact, right,

569
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: like that story. And this is going to be strange

570
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: to you guys, but I'm gonna be very defensive of

571
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: Bill here. That story has become fact. It was all

572
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: one hundred percent Bill Belichick's fault, right, had nothing to

573
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: do with any Scout, any recommendation from from the Personnel

574
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: Department GM, whatever, nothing. It was all Bill. They told him,

575
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: you better go get DK metcalf Y, you better get

576
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin, You better get Deebo Samuel and Bill said no, right,

577
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: this is the guy I'm taking. And that has been

578
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: like absolutely accepted as fact around here. Right. I don't

579
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: think there's much chance that it went down like that,

580
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: but that's the way everybody I know views it now,

581
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: I know, But again, like I think that who who

582
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: would be telling the writers that that's what happened? Like,

583
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: what what's the sword? What do you think would be saying? Like,

584
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: because I think Albert Brier was the first one who

585
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: started writing about writing about it now, like Albert Brier

586
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: wrote about it in twenty nineteen. You know, it's typical

587
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: of the way that's done around here. But whatever that

588
00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: that came out and everybody just accepted it maybe exactly

589
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: what happened. I'm not telling you what didn't happen. And

590
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: I do think Bill overrules the Scouts at times. But

591
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: where do you think that information came from? Like Albert

592
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: Brio just writes about this decision to take if Gail Harry,

593
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: if it's a Scout, right right, And why would the

594
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: Scouts be saying that cover my ass? Don't blame me

595
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: right exactly? Now, if it really went down like that,

596
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: you wouldn't need to do that because Bill knows. Yeah, hey, Mike,

597
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: I know you gave me the recommendation. That is my bad.

598
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: You know, we went against it. The Scouts wouldn't need

599
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: to defend them. Well, okay, But here's the other thing.

600
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys move around, these Scouts. You know,

601
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: this isn't going to be their last job, probably any

602
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: of them, and they're worried about their own reputation. So

603
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: they don't want just Bill to know it. They want

604
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: everybody else to know it wasn't me. I know, But

605
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: that's an easy one to do. Like what I'm saying

606
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: is if you as long as Bill knows the truth,

607
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: he's going to back you. Yeah, is my point, And

608
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna You're gonna have a job with him, certainly,

609
00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: if as long as you're doing your job right. I

610
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: just so, here's another thing. It's too easy to just

611
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: sit there and say, ooh, it was all Bill's fault.

612
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: So here's another one like that. Back when urban Meyer

613
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: was the coach at Florida and Bill took Jermaine Cunningham

614
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: and he was the second of the two good linemen there,

615
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: and the first lineman was Carlos and the narrative is

616
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: Bill looked at the tape and said, no, it's Cunningham.

617
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: That's the guy. You know. Now, in this case, it

618
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: wasn't a recommendation of Meyer. This was it was all Bill, Yeah,

619
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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, like and like, I don't know if

620
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: that's true or not, but that's that's and again and again,

621
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: I just want to just you know, I don't I'm

622
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: not taking Bill off the hook. Yeah, Like I think

623
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: Bill is ultimately in charge. I give him credit for

624
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: the good picks, and I give him blame for the

625
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: bad ones. He deserves the vast majority of the blame

626
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: for all of the picks that we're criticizing. To that

627
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: I'm not suggesting that Bill should be given a pass,

628
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: but I just think that, like sometimes I think we

629
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: simplify it too much in a story that comes out

630
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: becomes fact down the road, right, and then it's and

631
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: then it gets rolled into all the draft picks are

632
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: his fault, you know, like like I just think he

633
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: can't he can't draft, and I think, I mean, I

634
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: think you've been consistent with this, Paul too, Like, I mean,

635
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: I don't. I wasn't surprised to hear you say that,

636
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: and you know, and what what about the times? Was

637
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: there ever a time that nobody wanted a guy and

638
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: he wanted him and he actually turned out good? Like

639
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: did the scouts go to Albert Breer and say that

640
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: we didn't want Rob Gronkowski. We thought the back was

641
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: a problem with guy Bill and Bill overruled us. Because

642
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: if if that story came out now, I'm a little

643
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: bit more willing to say, Okay, Bill, Bill flexes his

644
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: muscles a little bit at draft time, and again, ultimately,

645
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: Bill is the he's the final say, he's the guy

646
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: in charge. When they make a good pick, it's Bill.

647
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: When they make a bad pick, it's Bill. And I'm

648
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: pretty consistent with that, but I just it's it's the

649
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: other stuff around the edges that I'm not always fully

650
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: on board with. I think something interesting it would be

651
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: to look back at, you know, maybe when he's done,

652
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: is how how things changed based on like his coordinators,

653
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: how you know, general managers, just little nuances in how

654
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: the organization maybe like I don't even know what you

655
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: would find, but just you know, I mean, I think

656
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: we can say with you know, Bill, Billy, Oh, there

657
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: was a certain kind of style offense when Josh came back,

658
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: you know, a certain kind of style offense. We know

659
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: between Patricia and Brian Flores, those kind of subtle changes.

660
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: But it's just interesting that that a guy can run

661
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: a football team for twenty plus years and there's new

662
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: guys faces coming in GM up front office level, on

663
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: the field coaching level. How do those how how did

664
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: those things kind of change subtly over over those different

665
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: tenures out a little little piece that's kind of interesting

666
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: to me. Let's get back to the phones, um, the

667
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: stacked phones, I should say, Dan's in Virginia in Michigan.

668
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: What's up, hey, guys. Your discussion on Tuesday of uh

669
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: tip making the Hall of Fame and the struggles that

670
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: some players have because their teams don't have the wins

671
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: during the time that they were on the team has

672
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 1: me asking the question, how do you factor in wins

673
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: or you know, team success into evaluating a player, because

674
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: I've had I've seen people on social media pushback on

675
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 1: Brady being the greatest because they say that wins aren't

676
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: a individual stat, they're a team stat. So how do

677
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: you balance, um, you know, I had the success of

678
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: a team versus the ability of a player in his

679
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: studability for the whole of fame. Yeah, I think I

680
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: think you have to just look at you. It's the

681
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: eye test, all perfects. Joe Thomas on the Browns, like

682
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: they lost for his whole career, and he was but

683
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: he was great. And you know the you know, one

684
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: of the ones that everyone brings up, Dan Marino. He

685
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: was a great quarterback, you know. And it's not like

686
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: Miami didn't win games. They beat the Patriots every year. Um,

687
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: they just didn't go all the way, you know. But

688
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: Joe's amis is a good one. The tea springs up

689
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: because I mean he was on bad teams and was

690
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: considered a great tap to shake his quarterback's hand and

691
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: introduce himself in the huddle. Like that's how dysfunctional it

692
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: was so player. I just don't know how anyone could

693
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: watch the actual games of Tom Brady and not and

694
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: not acknowledge that he is well and I know it's

695
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: a team game, but he's the quarter when it's all

696
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: on him. And I just think that you have to

697
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: take it all into consideration because I would say that

698
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: I'm probably not as much, you know, I don't like

699
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: the like the strict record for a quarterback, and I

700
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: know a lot of people do it, and yeah, like

701
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: I look at you know, some other factors and some

702
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: of them are tough because, like I think Garoppolo is

703
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: like as average as average can be. I don't think

704
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: there's anything special there. I've said this for years. Right,

705
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: his record is ridiculously good, and the Niners record without

706
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: him is ridiculously bad. But I still think he's kind

707
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: of average. Right, Brady's record is tremendous, and they've been

708
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: a five hundred teams since he left. You know, I

709
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: don't I don't think that those two things are the same.

710
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: You know. I think there's a lot of stuff that

711
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: goes into it, and you gotta just kind of watch.

712
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: That's why it's subjective. You gotta watch. You gotta look

713
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: deeper than the record. Freddy and I love Elway. Yeah,

714
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: he might not have numbers that are as good as

715
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: you know, Drew Breeses. You know, to use the guy

716
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: that we talked about on Tuesday, but you know which

717
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 1: is as far superior is the complete guy had everything,

718
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: he had the cannon, he could run, he was strong stones. Yeah,

719
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: you know, so, so it was like that quote fred

720
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: had before he was courting somebody else. But it's like pornography,

721
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 1: you know when you see it, right, it's true, It's true.

722
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: Have you seen lately? Dan? The other the other question

723
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: I had, following off from the Whole of Fame discussion,

724
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,919
Speaker 1: was so, who's a player from any time, any team

725
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: that you think should be in the whole thing? Who isn't. Well,

726
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 1: we talked about it the other day. Stanley Morgan. You know,

727
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: I'll be oh, yeah, I'll go full full blown Homer

728
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: and say Stanley Morgan, Yeah, I love the guy. I

729
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 1: think Rodney should be in, Rodney Harrison. Yeah, well, let's

730
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 1: give him time. I mean, Stanley's had a long time

731
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: to get in, and Rodney could get in. Yeah, it's

732
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: not like he's been snubbed at this right. Yeah, yeah,

733
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: you know an other guy. I don't know. It's hard

734
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: to take inventory other teams. You have a list in

735
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: front of you. Yeah, I'm not a huge spite my

736
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: shirt today and my presence on the Patriots Hall of

737
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: Fame committee, I'm not a huge home. I have more

738
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: guys that I think shouldn't be yea, Yeah, I find

739
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: that much easier. Yeah, all right, thanks, Dan, appreciate it.

740
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: Let's go to Dominique in New York. I hope it's

741
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: not Dominique easily, what's up? I think it's dominic No,

742
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: it's not. All right? Good, So I got two questions.

743
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: My first question is, um, what's your most random Patriots memory?

744
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: For example, for some reason, I had a random thought

745
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: of Wint even really got knocked out against the Buffalo Raven.

746
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: I think it was infamed over at that end of

747
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: the game, game over drop. Yeah, So what are your

748
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: most random Oh god, there's so many. I mean, welcome

749
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: getting hurt in Houston. I haven't. I just was so

750
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: pissed about that. Yeah, the wild Card get Wildcat. That's

751
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 1: a good random memory. Yeah yeah, yeah, that was weird.

752
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: Who was the coach to Morano with his glasses? That

753
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: game was so weird. Yeah, it was just like what

754
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: was it? What was the reaction in the press bar?

755
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 1: We were frustrating? Like what it was frustrating? Just start

756
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: it again. They just kept doing it right over and

757
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: as soon as they kind of get a beat on it,

758
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: then they shift and like throw the pass for a touchdown. Yeah.

759
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: I remember he held the ball like it was like

760
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 1: a like a like one of those boxing bags. He

761
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: held the ball up and punched it. That was a

762
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: rough weeks. I know I did have my first child

763
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: in matt Air, but you lose Brady and then they

764
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: pull out the way I was going to say the

765
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: Brady when Brady tours ACL I mean not, I know

766
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: that's not that random, but that's a clear memory of

767
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 1: feeling like, well, what am I going to do for

768
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: the next four months? Well, I remember kind of a

769
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: random one. It was the end of the Pete Carroll era,

770
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: like the writing was on the wall and they were

771
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: playing the Eagles in there was a screw up, and

772
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: there was a loose ball and special teams and Larry Wigham,

773
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: who backed then was kind of the special teams guy

774
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: instead of like jumping on the balls, like doing this

775
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: celebration dance while there's a loose ball behind him, And

776
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: it was like it encapsulated the whole season. It absolutely did.

777
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: It's a great random memory and as I often do

778
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: do so I'll fill in the blanks. And they blocked

779
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: a punt. Wigham blocked the punt and celebrated as the

780
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: ball was rolling right. The Eagles picked it up and

781
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: ran it for a first down right, and Wigham was

782
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: in full celebration mode. Yeah, it did. It just kind

783
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 1: of the last half of that ninety nine season in

784
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: that one play was all Peter kind of lost the

785
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: team and it was yeah, wow, that must be That

786
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: must be weird feeling walking out of the press box

787
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: after the game and feeling like this is it, Like

788
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: this is the Era is about the end? The kind

789
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: of feel that way he was getting fired, this was it.

790
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 1: I like I have so many Like I remember being

791
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: in a press conference post game in Atlanta, Bill Parcels

792
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: Era and the Patriots had lost the game, they had

793
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: a chance to win it. They had like two thirty

794
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: left on the clock, and to me, it seemed like

795
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: they were rushing and they didn't need to. They had

796
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 1: timehouse and they just seemed to be rushing. So I

797
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: actually asked Parcels about that. I seemed like, you know,

798
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: the team was kind of rushing through that final drive,

799
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: and you know, he really and he like jumped all

800
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: over me, like and just dismissed, you know. And the

801
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: next day Board just backed me up and wrote what

802
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: I said in his column like the Patriots are absolutely run,

803
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: you know. So I felt a little vindicated, But you know,

804
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: consider the source. But yeah, but but that you remember

805
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: that right? That game? I don't remember the altercation with you,

806
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: but I don't know the game that you're talking. No,

807
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: but do you think that do you remember the end?

808
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: Do you think that they were rushing a little bit? Oh? No,

809
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't remember the game. Okay, I

810
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: don't remember. You don't remember this. I don't remember every

811
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: other game because because Drew didn't play Zalac, I'm out. Yeah,

812
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: but you know, that's that's what I thought I had

813
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: mentioned that was Zola game. That's something that's stuck with me.

814
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I remember about that game. Maurice

815
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,439
Speaker 1: Hurst stepped in front of a guy for a pick

816
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: six and they called back in deference and it was

817
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: a terrible call. How's that terrible? Yes? What about Champ

818
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 1: Bailey the pick six? Yeah? Looking at the TV analyze

819
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: that you went over the Yeah, I always credit that game, Like,

820
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: I don't think I would be doing what I do

821
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: right now if not for that game. And how much

822
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: that game, like just like they hadn't lost yet, you know,

823
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: like and you knew that was the reminder that all right,

824
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: you got Bill and Tom for a certain amount of time.

825
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: How many can you get? And this is a reminder that,

826
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: all right, it's not going to always go great. But

827
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 1: that game, you know what that game was to me,

828
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: It's a team that was out of gas. Yeah, from

829
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: like they had fourteen and two Super Bowl fourteen and

830
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 1: two Super Bowl. Here we are again. Now we won

831
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 1: the wild card because they didn't get to buy that

832
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: year and they had to go to Denver, and I

833
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: just think they looked like a tired I'll give you

834
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: a Denver random. I think that these things happened in

835
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,760
Speaker 1: the same game, and Paul will correct me, but Logan

836
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: Mankins was battling with this guy the whole game and

837
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: he ended up on both knees in front of the

838
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: guy and just hauled off and punched him in the nuts,

839
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: a full blown I think that was a Denver game.

840
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: It wasn't. I know, it was a Denver game. And

841
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: I think in the same game Chad Brown getting folded

842
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: in half then, yeah, yeah, folded in half, like literally

843
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: off the ground where his toes were at his forehead. Yeah,

844
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: and they've never seen any Those are the seasons, you know,

845
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: people talk about Bill Belichick and his greatness and as

846
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: a coach. Those are like the individual seasons that to me,

847
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 1: Bill and Tom's greatness really shine through because he's that

848
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: was the Monty Bizel. Chad Brown. Yeah, they had to

849
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: move like Rabel from outside to inside. Like they couldn't play.

850
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 1: They didn't have NFL players to like to play like.

851
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: Chad Brown had a really good career, but he was

852
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 1: done when he came here. He had nothing left and

853
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: he was a guy that clearly just rushed the pad

854
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: like he couldn't do the things they needed them to do.

855
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: They would just plug in holes left and right. They

856
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 1: still found a way to win a lot of games

857
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:24,959
Speaker 1: and go to the playoffs and go to the second

858
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: round of the playoffs, even just because of the greatness

859
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: of Bill and Tom. Yeah, I mean it feels like

860
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 1: those are the teams that can't beat the good teams.

861
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: Like when you like a bad Patriots team, they're gonna

862
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: still beat the bad teams. But it's a current Red Sox. Yeah,

863
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: you know current Patriots last year. You know, the good

864
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: teams the big games, those are the ones that they

865
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: couldn't quite But I've never seen someone from his knees

866
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: haul off and just punch somebody in the nuts the draft.

867
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: Do you remember that, Paul? I remember, but I don't

868
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: remember like who it was, and I can't remember it

869
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: was psych Did I just see that he got called for?

870
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I don't remember Denver enough. There was

871
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 1: one with Channing Crowder. I remember he got into him

872
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: and Matt White, and I think that was the one

873
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: that he was good to see Mett pounding on his head.

874
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: What was it like in the press box when that

875
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: Champ Bailey play happened and Watson out random, like I mean,

876
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: because you guys probably could have seen wattsiliary press. I

877
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: was in the right. It was only a division around game,

878
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: so I was able to watch that one. I don't

879
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 1: think any of us ever really like they're like, oh yeah, yeah, whatever,

880
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: Like I don't really on those kinds of plays. I

881
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: don't really look. You know, this is going to surprise you,

882
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: I know, because everybody thinks I'm so negative, But like

883
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,919
Speaker 1: I don't generally look for like the technicality to bail

884
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:38,919
Speaker 1: me out. Like to me, it was a terrible play.

885
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: They got the pressure off the edge and one of

886
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: my favorite Patriots of all time, Tom Ashworth, caused that play.

887
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 1: He missed the block can write in Brady's face. Brady

888
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: rushed it through it before without looking and got victimized

889
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 1: by a really, really good corner who made a play.

890
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: And like, to me, Okay, yeah, you might have been

891
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: able to win the game if it was actually a

892
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 1: touch back and you get the ball in the twenty

893
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: huge momentum change. But to me, like, I'm not looking

894
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 1: for the technicality. I'm not looking for the touch rule

895
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: every time. Like, yeah, I don't think at the time,

896
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: I didn't think of it play. When the replay, everybody

897
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: in the press was amazed by Watson's hustle. Yes speak, Yes,

898
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: that's right, But I don't think there was an uproar

899
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: even among the local media about the call. Now, if

900
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 1: that had happened today, it certainly would have been. There wasn't.

901
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: But at the time Fred's right. It was Ron Borges,

902
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: Kevin Mannix, Ron Hobson, all guys that have been around

903
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: for they they they you know, they were covering games.

904
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 1: They were covering games. They weren't like rooting, they weren't

905
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: covering a dynasty. Yeah, there wasn't like that's a terrible call.

906
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 1: I don't remember that at all. I mean, it happened

907
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: in the aftermath. That's what you know, everybody's like, you know,

908
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 1: in retrospect, they probably should have overturned that. I mean,

909
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: I've never seen a play, and that's what I was

910
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: just gonna say, even as like a diehard, crazy Patriot

911
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: fan at the time, like I was still like, and

912
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: Bill has said the same thing that led to Bill's

913
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 1: famous you know, maybe we can have yeah, and we

914
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 1: can have a bake sale and put some cameras on

915
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: the goal line. Yeah, because because the angle didn't give

916
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: you the definitive look. But the amazing thing was Watson's

917
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: speed and hustle. Oh yeah, well that's why I meant

918
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: from up above you must just end mean, I know

919
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: it exists. Well you know you didn't realize you see,

920
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: like where he had to come from and like he

921
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 1: was hauling at it was. That was the aftermath, was exact. Fred, Yeah,

922
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: you tied that all up like that. Everybody was like,

923
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: did you see? But watching just did. Yeah, And that's

924
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: what I found a coach in any level. I'm this

925
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: is what happens when you have anything can happen. You

926
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: don't know that happened like two years ago in the

927
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 1: Seattle Uh oh, the Cardinals game, Buddha Baker, um kalf

928
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: got yeah, chased down from behind by d don't stop,

929
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: don't stop the whistle? Ye? Uh? Does that answer you

930
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 1: a question? Dominic gave a lot of a lot of

931
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: Randomness's enjoying Yeah, I'm just enjoying it. I'm you know,

932
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 1: I'm a younger fan of twenty seven, so hearing kind

933
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: of throwack. I remember Ben Bot company, but not really

934
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: much after maybe or before two thousand and one. My

935
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: last question, I might hop and y'all get back to it. Um,

936
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: will be your top five quarterbacks not including Brady, Garoppolo

937
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: and Bloedsow since two thousand that have played for the

938
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 1: Patriot since two thousand? Wow? Okay, well let you go

939
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: top five? Well, top five can come up from five.

940
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: But Castle I don't have a top Yeah. I mean

941
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: who who top five quarterbacks other than Brady and Bledsow

942
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: and Garoppolo. I can't even use Garoppolo, No Edelmans to

943
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 1: be max number one for me. Castle. Yeah? I like Castle,

944
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: but but you know they play it. I'd have Castle.

945
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: I hated that season though, because everyone said, oh, you know,

946
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 1: they ended up eleven and five and you know, almost

947
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: making the playoffs even with Castle, but they beat up

948
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 1: on bad teams and when they played the good teams,

949
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: they didn't win. Rod Kobe Percetton. They're kind of like

950
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: last year and remember the year before they were undefeated.

951
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: So you know, yeah, um Pittsburgh, Yeah, I would have

952
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: Castle match charges. I guess you got to put Pricett

953
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: in the mallet. Yeah, I'm trying to think of who

954
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: could even be in. But those other guys never played

955
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:26,399
Speaker 1: in any like this Horrior account. O'Connell never played, right,

956
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: you can't put Cam in? No, you know who Damon

957
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,240
Speaker 1: Hewart's Cam Newton? Did he ever play? He played for Belichick?

958
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: Didn't Heward win a couple of games for us with

959
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: Belichick in relief? Oh no, maybe not what but Damon Hewart,

960
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 1: you can keep saying the name. He never played the

961
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: game for Belichick? All right, when did he play? When

962
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: did HWard? He was on the team, but he never played.

963
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: It's like Ryan Mallett, like he never played. I know,

964
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: but when was he on the team, Damon Hugh Like

965
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: two thousand, maybe two thousand, two thousand and one, yeah,

966
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: two thousand and two thousands, he was in the two

967
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: thousand and one he came in as the backup and

968
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: then Brady beat him out any test in two thousand

969
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: Minny Testaverdy he played, at least he played Doug Flutie Bishop.

970
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if he played quarterback. You kicked that

971
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 1: extra player. I don't know if he ever played. It

972
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: doesn't matter whether he plays or not. Yeah, oh well,

973
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: if we're not counting guys that played, then Mallet's in

974
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: the in the au. It doesn't matter whether or not

975
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: they played. Arm Just who do you like? Davy? Terrible look,

976
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: terrible look bad quarterback? Look him? Oh looked like a

977
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: looked like a defensive tackle. Right. Like his shirt was

978
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: always like he were number six. I'm glad you're getting

979
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 1: And it was never in the middle. It was always

980
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: up to the side, right. I was so ready. He

981
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: totally looked, totally looked out of place as a quarterback.

982
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: And you're right on the same I'm talking about food.

983
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: I screwed that up. I said that was my last

984
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: day Tuesday, right, I have another. I have another day.

985
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: We should awarded food. Oh yeah, and you're like, I

986
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: didn't start yet your final real meals? Yeah, I didn't

987
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 1: start yet. Yeah, No, but I remember Fred said that

988
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: was it, right? So I didn't even think of it.

989
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 1: I was I'm leaving anyway, so I didn't like. Uh.

990
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: Don writes in from Calgary, still getting enough? You know

991
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: Calgary pretty well? Yeah? Sure. Do you remember a few

992
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: years ago when Cleveland had those bud light fridges that

993
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: didn't open until Cleveland broke their windless street? Bonus point

994
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 1: if you remember the first team they beat? Yeah, it

995
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 1: was the Jets. Tyrod got knocked out Baker one in Well,

996
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: I was thinking that we should get fridges of diet

997
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 1: Miller that won't open until the Patriots finally make another

998
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: team punt. Paul missed that one. Oh my god, I

999
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 1: mean the Bronx cheer that's gonna go up in the

1000
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 1: in the press box. Probably mean it won't be till

1001
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 1: week two, but when hopefully finally Pittsburgh has to punt

1002
00:50:55,840 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: and I won't, Paul, I can already Phil, Paul leaning

1003
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: into me to tell me something when not Uh back

1004
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: on the phone, Williams and Philham? What's up? William? What's up? Brave?

1005
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 1: What's going on? Hey? Hey? What's up? Paul? Mike? Hey?

1006
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: Uh okay, I was just listening to y'all basically. I mean,

1007
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: I know, I'm kind of kind of a little late though,

1008
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: come in with it. But y'all were spoke about Nikill

1009
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: Harry correct. Yeah yeah, okay, okay, So as bad as

1010
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: it that makes you so angry war with Bill boy? Okay,

1011
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: So I gotta ask you another question. Is it true

1012
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: that Bill knew that A J. Brown wants to be

1013
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: with the Patriots? I don't know, I don't know. I

1014
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: don't know what was that? Was that like an Instagram THINGEO?

1015
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: After he visited, well, he put out of A J.

1016
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: Brown put out of YouTube Billy and he said, you know,

1017
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 1: I had an interview and he said, look, I want

1018
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: he knew that the Patriot was going to frame right. Well,

1019
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: that's that's you know, that that's why they didn't. Yeah,

1020
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: you know the story. The myth is that's was a

1021
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: mark against him in a reason why they may not

1022
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: have drafted him. But I don't know if that's true either. Yeah. Right, Um,

1023
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: And just one more thing too, I mean, kill just

1024
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 1: answered me this. I mean, even you, Paul, Um, how

1025
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 1: in the hell did you how did you come up

1026
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 1: picking to kill Harry over all those receiverts? What told you?

1027
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: I mean like even even a fan could pick up

1028
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: those over to kill Harry. Why would you? Why would

1029
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: you do that? I know, are you supposed to be

1030
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: giving Son Braddy a weapon? Listen, I can't. I'm not

1031
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 1: going to take credit for oh. They At the time,

1032
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, but I know a lot of people,

1033
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people, William, You're right, a lot of

1034
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: people said he's not the best of the bunch. He

1035
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: can't get separation. That was said immediately, immediately, Bred, I

1036
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 1: would doubt understand that. Your boy, I understand that's your

1037
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: Oh god, I'm like, dude, how did you pass up

1038
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: on Hollywood Brown, DK Metcam Terry mccorn. Yo, Well, I

1039
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: think Deebo Samuel is the best football player in the

1040
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: league right now, you know, and guys that fit what

1041
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: they do. That's what's frustrating. Yeah, well yeah, and it's

1042
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 1: just another receiver added to the bunch with d Johnson,

1043
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 1: Aaron Dops. God, damn Mike. I know. He's kind of

1044
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: a hypothetical though. Do you think if they drafted AJ

1045
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: Brown he'd still be on the Patriots right now? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: like you totally whiff on to kill Harry or that

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Speaker 1: but you don't talking about two thousand and five. That's

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Speaker 1: It's not really his fault. Just there's so many unanswered questions.

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Speaker 1: he could do that? Like, could you know, I just

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Speaker 1: don't think they're going to have I don't think Stevenson

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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of McMillan. I think he

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Speaker 1: I you know, Bentley is what he is, but I

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Speaker 1: And Howland volved here, I do too. But the most

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't think there's any chance of that. Right,

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Speaker 1: Emerson got a plug and stranger things they did. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Nancy was gonna go to Emerson. She's wearing the T shirt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah really yeah? Yeah. Why did Nancy want to

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Speaker 1: like they have journalism at Emerson. I think somebody said

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Speaker 1: I guess they just like plugged it in there. That

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Speaker 1: you guys were talking earlier about nineteen nineties Patriots memories,

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Speaker 1: so I thought i'd chime in. I want to preface

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Speaker 1: this by saying I love Bill Parcels, and I literally

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Speaker 1: became a Patriots fan the day the team made the

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Speaker 1: announcement of his hiring. That said, I'm watching the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl against the Packers on NFL Network last night, and

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Speaker 1: I was floored by something everyone knows about. How poor

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Speaker 1: to me the decision to kickoff to Desmond Howard was.

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Speaker 1: But one thing I had completely forgotten about is that

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Speaker 1: in the ensuing Patriots possession, the drive was completely blown

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Speaker 1: up by Reggie White. If there was any chance of

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Speaker 1: recovering from the kickoff, it ended right there. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: famous site Matt max Lane just getting abused he thought

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Speaker 1: you had a chance right before that takeoff, and that

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Speaker 1: just changed it. Um, I don't understand how Parcel slashed

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Speaker 1: Dante slash rest of the coaching staff could have possibly

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Speaker 1: decided that blocking future Hall of Famer Reggie White one

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Speaker 1: on one with Max Lane was a good idea. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's ain't that the truth with Reggie White? And funny

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Speaker 1: I went back Barmore said, he, uh, he grew up

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Speaker 1: watching a lot of Reggie White, like that was kind

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Speaker 1: of his guy who the coaches kind of put him on.

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Speaker 1: And I kind of went back to just like as

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Speaker 1: I was looking him. But what a what a dominant

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Speaker 1: beast that guy wasn't that I mean? And I'd love

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Speaker 1: to see Barmore be that guy. But like that's what

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Speaker 1: I think is missing from the Patriots, right, Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: other the other kind of legend. But it's kind of

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Speaker 1: true because I have you know, he said it firsthand

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Speaker 1: about that Super Bowl in the play with Desmond Howard,

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Speaker 1: but Troy Brown didn't wasn't in on that play, wasn't

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Speaker 1: playing And he says, I should have been in because

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Speaker 1: I would have caught him. I would have wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: gone all the way and you know, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: argue with Troy Brown. You probably would have, and so

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Speaker 1: that was a personnel decision that was a bad one.

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Speaker 1: I remember just being like very young, watching like the

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Speaker 1: highlights on NFL network but not knowing what happened, and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, it's like second half. I was like, oh, okay, Like, well, O,

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Speaker 1: what year was that you were here for, like your

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Speaker 1: second third year? I mean it's my second year, so

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Speaker 1: I mean you're already going. We were five and eleven.

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Speaker 1: And then the second year we went to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy. I mean, a bunch of wide eyed, like

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Speaker 1: new people. You know, it's funny, like talk about random memories. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, back then, it was a much smaller crew.

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Speaker 1: You know, there was no the web. World Wide Web

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Speaker 1: so it was really the newspaper that we were focused on.

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Speaker 1: That that was it. You know, So our staff was

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Speaker 1: really small. The whole overall organization staff going down to

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Speaker 1: this was you know, my office or our room was

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Speaker 1: right next to the owner room. So you'd walk out

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Speaker 1: and say you need to take us to this party,

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Speaker 1: like you could do anything. But the thing that I

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Speaker 1: get screwed on is it like I worked in Boston.

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Speaker 1: Back then there wasn't room at the stadium, so all

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Speaker 1: my staff was in Boston, and when we went to

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, I guess, I guess everyone was allowed to

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Speaker 1: have a hotel woman bring a guest for free. The

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Speaker 1: word didn't get to us. So I had a suite

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Speaker 1: with like six people sleeping in the suite, like people

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Speaker 1: literally on the floor. And then I find out afterwards, oh,

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Speaker 1: you could have had your own room and all. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: it was a great memory, you know, like you it's

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Speaker 1: your first one. It was just you know, in New

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Speaker 1: Orleans Bourbon Street. It was awesome when you look back

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Speaker 1: in retrospect to you, I mean, I mean I think,

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Speaker 1: happy to be there somewhat. But in contrast to the

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Speaker 1: when you went to the sixth championship, it like like

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Speaker 1: it was, oh, it was so different, so different, just

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Speaker 1: like the old like we're almost yeah. Of course, I

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Speaker 1: what we did in ninety six, like the whole television

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Speaker 1: It is very random. It's like kind of like your

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Speaker 1: guess what you would have as yours. It's not like

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Speaker 1: grab all yes yeah um, he says. But my biggest

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Speaker 1: stranger things hot Take. The show should have ended after

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Speaker 1: season one. I think season two is average. It has

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Speaker 1: the final episode felt like a reversion back to my

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Speaker 1: least favorite part of season two and three. I understand

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Speaker 1: with the hype and love of the show, there was

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Speaker 1: no chance that Netflix would cancel it after season one,

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Speaker 1: but narratively, it's apparent the Duffer brothers were struggling on

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Speaker 1: where they would take the story. Seeah, like I like

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Speaker 1: season three, I'm on a now rewatch Yeah, I mean too,

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Speaker 1: me too with them all and see if they did

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Speaker 1: it like season one just ended it. It kind of

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Speaker 1: be like that show, um Mine Hunter right now it's unreal.

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Speaker 1: But I just don't tell her that. Yeah, she's in

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Speaker 1: the thick of it right now. Season two and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: all right, season three, Nope, it's done. Yeah. I think

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Speaker 1: every season has its moments or you know, just little

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Speaker 1: things like for example, um, in the last season when

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Speaker 1: they go um and Dustin has like a hoodie with

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Speaker 1: a bandana, which is totally ripped from Patrick Swayzy and

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Speaker 1: Red Don, which is one of my favorite movies. But

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Speaker 1: just like a little detail like that that a lot

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Speaker 1: of people wouldn't realize. But there's so much of that

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Speaker 1: baked into throughout that some of you get, some you don't. Um,

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Speaker 1: But I don't disagree with with some of the clunkiness

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Speaker 1: of it. I would just that's why I would love

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Speaker 1: and Star Wars didn't do this. And I always bring

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Speaker 1: up Marvel because they were one of the few where

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Speaker 1: it all makes sense. Now there was a plan from

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Speaker 1: the beginning, and like we touched on at the top,

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Speaker 1: like it does feel a little retroactively jiggered to oh,

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Speaker 1: now it all makes sense. But you know, did they

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Speaker 1: really know that? You know, I don't want to give

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Speaker 1: you much away for people I haven't seen it, but

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. I still have my questions.

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Speaker 1: I think they I think, like I said, I think

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Speaker 1: they've done a pretty good job tying up loose ends,

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Speaker 1: making things consistent, making things make sense, you know, um continuity,

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Speaker 1: making sure that you know, yeah, like you know that

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Speaker 1: contradicts something that happened in the past. I think they've

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Speaker 1: been very careful about that. What's like I think about

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01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 1: when I used to write screenplays, and it's such a

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01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 1: tedious process, and you know, the first draft is like

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01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 1: you just got to get it done, but then so

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01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 1: much of going back to it is like connecting those

1462
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 1: threads or putting you know, foreshadowing things early on or later,

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01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 1: and you wonder if the Duffer brothers could look at

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01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 1: this how much they Yeah, But even if they were

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01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 1: to now do a second draft of the series, so

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01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 1: to speak, like what would they have changed, you know,

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01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 1: like what could they put in to kind of foreshadow

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01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:05,719
Speaker 1: season four in season one or two, you know, subtle

1469
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 1: nods to the power of the music or all those

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01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 1: things that kind of were revealed then, but you know,

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01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 1: just things that would pay off. And you look back

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01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 1: when you're rewatch and you're like, oh my gosh, I

1473
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,760
Speaker 1: didn't even realize, but right there, you're foreshadowing this. And

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01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people on like TikTok are

1475
01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 1: going back like, well, if you go back and you

1476
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 1: look at Billy, he like folds his arms a certain

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01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 1: way like one does in that. You know, I'm like, really, really,

1478
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 1: you think they were like fold your arms like this,

1479
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:30,680
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, it's gonna it's gonna like the

1480
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:32,680
Speaker 1: hype's gonna die down though it's wrapped up, and then

1481
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, every's gonna be super excited and

1482
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 1: it'll be over. That's what's so weird about TV and

1483
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 1: stuff now though it's like like this show is so

1484
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 1: influential now on the music that we're listening on radio

1485
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 1: and everything, and it's so big right now, and like

1486
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 1: you said, it's all of a sudden gonna die and

1487
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 1: now there's gonna be some other show that that hopefully

1488
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,599
Speaker 1: is you know, gets all that kind of attention, and yeah,

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01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 1: that's yeah, but that's the beauty of it. There's so

1490
01:16:56,479 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 1: many platforms now that there's places for everything, Like you're

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01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 1: not limited to certain channels or you know, like even

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01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:06,799
Speaker 1: when I was growing up, like you had your networks,

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01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 1: but you know, HBO was happening and so that was

1494
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 1: but now you have unlimited. Yeah, it's unlimited, and it's

1495
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 1: I mean, it's so hard to break through the noise

1496
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:16,160
Speaker 1: and to get a hit like that, like I was

1497
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 1: thinking of you know, who shot Jr? Or those like,

1498
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 1: you know, really huge moments in television history that just

1499
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:25,720
Speaker 1: reverberated across society and you know, and and and that's

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01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:27,640
Speaker 1: a little bit what's happening now. But it's just it

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01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 1: is hard to do because there's so many outlets and

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01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 1: it's so hard to get everybody on the same page.

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01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 1: And I mean, I think that there's just an element

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01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:36,720
Speaker 1: in nostalgia in stranger things that you know, a lot

1505
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 1: of people in our generation, it's like we're we're all

1506
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:41,719
Speaker 1: kind of spread out, but we all appreciate the eighties

1507
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 1: and those movies and Star Wars and all that stuff

1508
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 1: that it kind of kind of touches on. So yeah,

1509
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 1: I assume right now everybody in Hollywood is trying to

1510
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:50,280
Speaker 1: figure out how do we how do we do this?

1511
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 1: Like how do you make something stand out like Stranger

1512
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 1: Things to that transcends streaming and it's just a hit.

1513
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:59,639
Speaker 1: It's a pure hit. Yeah, but it's it's good writing.

1514
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 1: You know, it's the right casting. You know, it's yeah,

1515
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:07,799
Speaker 1: like Stranger you know, breaking bad. You know, you couldn't

1516
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 1: have anything more different than Stranger Things, but like, it

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01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 1: just resonated. It was just awesome. It's just so well done.

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01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 1: You know, um Speeds and Fresno, what's up? Speed? Yeah,

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01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 1: Stranger Spece is great. It's it's perfect combination of nostalgia

1520
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 1: with great writing, great acting, and I'm with I'm with everything,

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01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 1: and you guys were just saying it's um. To the

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01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 1: emailer's point, though, I do think the Duffer brothers kind

1523
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 1: of had to figure out, you know what, how they

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01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 1: were going to continue, you know, it's it's kind of

1525
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:39,760
Speaker 1: like with the Matrix sequels. They had to pick up

1526
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:41,720
Speaker 1: and didn't really know that this thing was going to

1527
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 1: explode as much as it did. What I thought they

1528
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 1: should have done, even though I totally liked the entire show,

1529
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 1: what I thought they should have done was keep each

1530
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 1: of these seasons in independent storyline, so kind of like

1531
01:18:56,080 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 1: with American horror story Yeah true Detective too. Yep. Yeah,

1532
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 1: upside Down could have worked until at the end of

1533
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 1: the first season he vomits the worm or whatever from

1534
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 1: you know, into in the stink and that's just that.

1535
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 1: Then that storyline just ends and so the next season

1536
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 1: is the same actors. Maybe you bring them back, but

1537
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:19,599
Speaker 1: it's a different, other sort of side of that parallel

1538
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:28,360
Speaker 1: universe to that one. Yeah, one way of doing it. Sorry, yeah, um,

1539
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 1: I had a football one. Um. So, what do you

1540
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 1: guys think about the super Bowl? The super Bowl, the

1541
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 1: Bengals RMS super Bowl? Do you enjoy it? Yeah? Yeah,

1542
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 1: sure I did? Yeah like that, Yeah, whe's the Bengals

1543
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 1: pull up. I'm I'm I did enjoy the game, but

1544
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 1: I'm I'm still disappointed with the way that it ended

1545
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 1: with that, you know, the the well on the third

1546
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:51,719
Speaker 1: quarter with Tehagen's face masking Jalen Ramsey, and they didn't

1547
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 1: call it, and then then in the they like didn't

1548
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 1: call any penalties the entire game until the Rams game

1549
01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 1: winning drive. That the whole thing and the interference that

1550
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 1: basically gave them the game as a makeup, it's one

1551
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 1: of those degregious, disappointing makeup calls in history. Yeah, I

1552
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 1: agree with that. Yeah, I kind of forgot all about that, honestly,

1553
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:12,639
Speaker 1: you know, now that you're bringing it up, I remember,

1554
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 1: but like to me, even at the time, like it

1555
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 1: didn't really ruin the game for me, Like you, I

1556
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 1: guess I'm so conditioned to bad refereeing that, you know. Yeah,

1557
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 1: it's just referee has been bad in all sports. Yea,

1558
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 1: right now, I've just kind of gotten used to it.

1559
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 1: Local you thought it's been outstanding. That was particularly terrible.

1560
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:34,040
Speaker 1: It totally ruined the game for me. I was having

1561
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:36,599
Speaker 1: such a great time and and then it just happened.

1562
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 1: I thought. But at first I thought the fix was in,

1563
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:42,800
Speaker 1: But then later on, when when the t Higgins thing

1564
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 1: came up, I was like, oh, yeah, that's what it was.

1565
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 1: But it's just it's pretty pretty I get it because

1566
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:49,599
Speaker 1: like there's two teams in LA, the Super Bowls in LA.

1567
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:51,519
Speaker 1: LA's playing in it, so it's kind of like, oh,

1568
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 1: this kind of all adds up. You want LA to win. Yeah,

1569
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 1: but I know it's so funny that like for like ever,

1570
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 1: no team had ever won a Super Bowl at all

1571
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 1: back and now back to back. You know, thanks to

1572
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 1: be appreciate the call. Joe and Wark, New York. Um.

1573
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 1: I love the show, he says. I've heard it said

1574
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 1: by coach Belichick that the best ability is availability. Here's

1575
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 1: a quick one question game. What do you think is

1576
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 1: the best ability? He's got five of them. Capability, reliability, possibility, affordability,

1577
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:32,920
Speaker 1: and pliability. I mean reliability just you know, you know

1578
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:35,960
Speaker 1: you can count on a guy. I'd start with the

1579
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:39,559
Speaker 1: first one. Capability. Yeah, Like, if you're not capable, then

1580
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 1: all the others don't matter, Right, you got to start playing? Yeah,

1581
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 1: you gotta start there. Yeah, availabilities key though, can't make

1582
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 1: the right at the top. But if you stink and

1583
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 1: you're available, what good is that? It's an unexpected twist

1584
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 1: to all the storylines that you spend all year kind

1585
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:58,560
Speaker 1: of formulating in your head of how it's going to

1586
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 1: come together in camp, and then all of a sudden

1587
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 1: somebody gets hurt and everything you talked about about a

1588
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:05,320
Speaker 1: certain player is just out the window, because you know,

1589
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 1: especially with the rookies, like we talked to all with Harry,

1590
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 1: I don't know how much it really mattered that he

1591
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 1: got hurt. Of course it set him back, but you know,

1592
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 1: would he have ultimately caught up. I don't. I don't

1593
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:15,639
Speaker 1: really think so. But you know, for those rookie guys

1594
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:18,560
Speaker 1: to not get the experience out of the gate, and

1595
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 1: I think you see it sometimes, you know, kind of

1596
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 1: linger into their early career that it's just it, it

1597
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 1: really it hurts them. And you know that's again to

1598
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:28,240
Speaker 1: go back to Myers. You know, just a guy who's

1599
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:30,760
Speaker 1: been consistently out there and does it and you know

1600
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 1: as it you know, Randy Moss out there. No but

1601
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:35,560
Speaker 1: he's out there and he's getting better every time. And

1602
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:37,560
Speaker 1: I think that that's worth a lot to them that

1603
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:39,800
Speaker 1: they know they can count on him, not only you know,

1604
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 1: to be there, but to know what to do and

1605
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 1: to you know, when the ball is thrown to him,

1606
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 1: to make to make the play. Breton Toronto from two

1607
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:49,920
Speaker 1: thousand and three until now, so basically twenty years the

1608
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:52,960
Speaker 1: only wide receiver drafted by the Patriots which which has

1609
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 1: over sixty career receptions for the team is Edelman with

1610
01:22:57,120 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 1: six twenty. Next is Harry with fifty seven and Dobson

1611
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 1: with fifty three. Absolutely terrible. Branch and Givens were before

1612
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 1: two thousand and three. Yeah, and Doug touched a little

1613
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 1: bit on that on this his PFF right up on

1614
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 1: Harry too, And you know, I mean hopefully these changes

1615
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 1: on offense are are geared towards that, because I mean,

1616
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 1: you hear enough about how hard it is to pick

1617
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 1: up the system and all YadA, YadA, YadA, and I'm

1618
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:24,559
Speaker 1: sure you know not this isn't a dig at Josh.

1619
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:26,639
Speaker 1: But it's just that Josh knew exactly what he was doing,

1620
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:28,800
Speaker 1: and it was you had to get on his page,

1621
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 1: and you know, I respect that, But now it's you've

1622
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:35,000
Speaker 1: got a chance to hit the reset button a little bit.

1623
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 1: And I mean, this is the thing, clearly, you know,

1624
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:39,720
Speaker 1: whether they're not drafting the right guys or whether they're

1625
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 1: drafting the right guys, but they just can't learn the system.

1626
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 1: I think something had to change, you know, So hopefully

1627
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 1: that equals more success. We'll see with Thornton. You know

1628
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 1: how Eddie jumps number two on that list Thornton. I mean,

1629
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:55,599
Speaker 1: we'll see, We'll see. I mean it's a stack depth chart,

1630
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 1: and in a way, I don't I prefer this then

1631
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:00,759
Speaker 1: having to think about you know, if let's say Agelare

1632
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:02,680
Speaker 1: and Parker weren't here and you're like, we really need

1633
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 1: Thornton to be the outside guy. We need him to

1634
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:07,760
Speaker 1: step right in. I think that's a lot asking a

1635
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:09,599
Speaker 1: lot of a guy, and you know someone I think

1636
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 1: that's what they did with Dobson and when he was

1637
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:14,680
Speaker 1: a rookie in twenty thirteen that you desperately needed, you know,

1638
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 1: to reinforce the receiver position you signed Amendola. You didn't

1639
01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 1: really know what you had with Edelman. You know, I

1640
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 1: think he's in a good spot where the pressure isn't on,

1641
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:24,600
Speaker 1: but but I'd still love to see him push the

1642
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:26,760
Speaker 1: envelope a little bit and make some plays that that

1643
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 1: make you go, you know, I mean, train Nixon can

1644
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 1: be out there in mini camp and make you know,

1645
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 1: two to three brilli beautiful downfield catches. I don't think

1646
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 1: that would be asking too much of of Thornton in

1647
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:39,800
Speaker 1: this training camp that's coming up here in less than

1648
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:42,040
Speaker 1: two weeks. All right, we're gonna take a quick break,

1649
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 1: real quick, and then we'll be back with mark calls

1650
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 1: and emails here and Patriots Unfiltered want to get into

1651
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Speaker 1: All right, back here on Patriots on filtered, thanks for

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Speaker 1: obliging us on a second break. We usually take one,

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Speaker 1: Rights in on web radio at Patriots dot Com tuesdays.

1734
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 1: Talk about Drew Brees got me thinking, if you ignore longevity,

1735
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:03,200
Speaker 1: how we your top twenty five QB rankings change? Are

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01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 1: there any quarterbacks who had a short but amazing career

1737
01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:09,720
Speaker 1: like Bo Jackson, but he wasn't a quarterback. The only

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01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:12,360
Speaker 1: one who comes to mind is Andrew Luck, but his

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01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:14,840
Speaker 1: per game stats are pretty similar to Drew Brees, and

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01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:19,720
Speaker 1: I don't think either of them are in that upper echelant. Yeah,

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01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:22,240
Speaker 1: I thought it Torrell Davis too, That was another, but

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01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 1: a quarterback position, Like I mean, if they're good, they

1743
01:30:25,439 --> 01:30:27,880
Speaker 1: lasted right, Yeah, because you don't get as hurt as much.

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01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, like look at I mean, I

1745
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:31,880
Speaker 1: just we're talking about like Marcus Carson Palmer. Maybe the

1746
01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:34,720
Speaker 1: guys can continue to get chances, like if you can

1747
01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:37,759
Speaker 1: even like remotely play like luck is such a unique

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01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:40,000
Speaker 1: one because he was hurt so much and he had

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01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 1: you know, he had to turn it up. But you know,

1750
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 1: even average kind of guys get three on a different team. Like, yeah,

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01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:49,400
Speaker 1: that's a great one. That's a great one. He lit

1752
01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 1: up the league that first. That is a great one.

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01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:53,800
Speaker 1: YEA was that two thousand and twelve, which which which

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01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:55,840
Speaker 1: I think too we should tie it into like let's

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01:30:55,840 --> 01:31:00,280
Speaker 1: see your Shanahan and McVeigh and who else, I uh,

1756
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:03,559
Speaker 1: the guy from Cincinnati. Well, let's let's let's throw all there.

1757
01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:06,559
Speaker 1: Let's throw injuries and also off field stuff. Michael Vick,

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01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:10,680
Speaker 1: Michael Vick, you know, right, Vie, And he came back

1759
01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:12,800
Speaker 1: and played played okay, right, and he came back. He

1760
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 1: throwed maybe Vince Young in there a little for early years. Yeah,

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01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:18,519
Speaker 1: it's a weird one, right, he had a very up

1762
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:21,439
Speaker 1: and down career. Yeahs, I mean we talked about it.

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01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:23,560
Speaker 1: This goes way back, but you know, had he not

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01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:26,479
Speaker 1: had bad knees, Joe Namath might you know, like he's

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01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:27,960
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. A lot of people don't

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Speaker 1: think he should be, but he maybe he'd be a

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Speaker 1: slam dunk if he had the good knees, you know, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think of anybody else off the top, Carson Palmer

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Speaker 1: are knockot Philip Rivers when he if he didn't blow

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Speaker 1: out his acl and play in the playoff game, y'all

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Speaker 1: had some Boham and Palmer both had some untimely, untimely

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Speaker 1: luck with that, yep. H Zach also says I took

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01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 1: Fred's recommendation and watched them Bobby or highlights. My biggest

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Speaker 1: takeaway was that TV resolution back then made it impossible

1775
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Speaker 1: to watch a hockey game. The screens so blurry you

1776
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Speaker 1: can't even see the puck, and the pu catchphrase should

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Speaker 1: be it's about honor or Fred's characteristic all right? I

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Speaker 1: like the all right, Yeah, they like guys like smoking

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Speaker 1: on the bench, nobody wearing face masks, yeah, or helmets

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Speaker 1: like chicken wire for instead of glass, Like, how did

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Speaker 1: you not tear your face off every time you went

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Speaker 1: Damon played the role of Peyton Manning and was responsible

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Speaker 1: for the O three AFC Championship Game twenty four to

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Speaker 1: fourteen victory. He mimic the line calls and audibles of

1788
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Speaker 1: Manning for the Patriots defense during practice. It was directly

1789
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:50,840
Speaker 1: responsible for ty Love's three picks. At least that's what

1790
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:55,000
Speaker 1: Three Games to Glory says, and good riddance on Harry.

1791
01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:58,679
Speaker 1: I tweeted Lombardi and asked him how that metcalf slash

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Speaker 1: Harry evaluation was worth working out for him? No reply,

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Speaker 1: But now I'm blocked. Oh the Scalabino, Yeah, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to miss the could they move him

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Speaker 1: to tight end question? Every weekend? Yeah, every week It's

1796
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:16,479
Speaker 1: best to just cut ties and move on. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: was time. First round blocking receiver Cody in Indiana says,

1798
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Speaker 1: I'm struggling to come up with a good offseason question

1799
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Speaker 1: for you, So I'm going to circle back to one

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Speaker 1: I asked three or four years ago. Uh, it was

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Speaker 1: just Paul and Andy that day. It was the day

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Speaker 1: of the Kevin mumbling while trying to start the show solo,

1803
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:37,600
Speaker 1: and wanted to get an updated opinion from Paul and

1804
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Speaker 1: also here Fred Deuce and Matissa's opinion. If the entire

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Speaker 1: team was stranded on an island, who do you think

1806
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:47,599
Speaker 1: would be the first one to float around the idea

1807
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:52,200
Speaker 1: of cannibalism At the time, Paul's answer was Alan Branch.

1808
01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 1: I mean Trent Brown, but I think too nice, Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't think he would do it. Shoot on, he'd

1810
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Speaker 1: be nice about it, y'all. Y'all I'm thinking about eating y'all. Yeah,

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01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:10,600
Speaker 1: that's a good one. I mean definitely, uh, I mean

1812
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Speaker 1: definitely not Mac Mac guys, guys, come on, we gotta

1813
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Speaker 1: be friends. Maybe David Andrews. You know, I'm hungry, David Andrews.

1814
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:22,080
Speaker 1: That's a good one. One of the big fatties, one

1815
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:26,519
Speaker 1: of the big fatties up front. Maybe those five guys.

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01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:33,639
Speaker 1: It tastes our five guys. Uh yeah, maybe like Carl Davis,

1817
01:34:33,720 --> 01:34:35,280
Speaker 1: like what are those under the radar? Kind of like

1818
01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:38,120
Speaker 1: just guys that look like they're they they had that

1819
01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:40,120
Speaker 1: in them. Maybe, if you know, if Gunner was still here,

1820
01:34:40,120 --> 01:34:42,439
Speaker 1: I'd say Gunner. He'd be the first one to be like,

1821
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:48,680
Speaker 1: all right, yeah, get some shrimp. But they might be

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01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:51,639
Speaker 1: I and Trent Brown though, I mean like he's probably

1823
01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:55,920
Speaker 1: fegeed a lot of us, you know. Yeah, uh yeah,

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01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:58,120
Speaker 1: they'd want to eat Trent Brown. They eat the whole,

1825
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:02,799
Speaker 1: you know. Tim Wrightson from South Carolina, I've been listening

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01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:04,760
Speaker 1: to your show for two weeks now, but I am

1827
01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:08,479
Speaker 1: loving it so far. Wow, a new list season got

1828
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Speaker 1: pulled in by an off season. If you remember Matt

1829
01:35:10,720 --> 01:35:13,160
Speaker 1: from Ohio writing in the last few episodes, that is

1830
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Speaker 1: my older brother, fun little piece of New England info.

1831
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Speaker 1: Our grandmother went to nursing school with Gilt Santos's wife.

1832
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Speaker 1: Roberta Okay, wow, Roberta. Also a question for everyone to discuss.

1833
01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:27,920
Speaker 1: Do you think the Patriots should have stayed where they

1834
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:30,160
Speaker 1: were in the first round of the draft and taking

1835
01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:33,439
Speaker 1: a guy like McDuffie or even still made that trade

1836
01:35:33,479 --> 01:35:36,719
Speaker 1: with the Chiefs and taking someone like Nakobe Dean instead

1837
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:39,200
Speaker 1: of Strange. Would love to hear your thoughts, because I

1838
01:35:39,320 --> 01:35:43,479
Speaker 1: wanted them to take McDuffie or another corner still available. Yeah,

1839
01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:45,559
Speaker 1: I mean at the time I wanted I would want

1840
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:48,320
Speaker 1: I wanted one of those fast linebackers. I did, yeah,

1841
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:50,160
Speaker 1: and then Ad didn't go. I mean, then you find

1842
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:52,120
Speaker 1: out Dean had injury issues, I kind of take him

1843
01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:53,680
Speaker 1: out of the mix. But yeah, I would have liked

1844
01:35:53,680 --> 01:35:56,200
Speaker 1: to keep mcduffey, especially went to a arrival. I think

1845
01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:58,599
Speaker 1: McDuffie made the most sense. But at the same time,

1846
01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:00,600
Speaker 1: you know, size concerns and I don't think that he

1847
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:02,479
Speaker 1: you know, we'll see how he does in Kansas City.

1848
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:04,719
Speaker 1: But I think, as I said in the radio show,

1849
01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:07,120
Speaker 1: just because they took Strange, there wasn't someone else that

1850
01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:09,640
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't believe they didn't take. I mean,

1851
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:12,439
Speaker 1: we could maybe talk about Tamara's guy with Jermaine Johnson,

1852
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:14,360
Speaker 1: which I think, you know, I might have gotten on

1853
01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:17,040
Speaker 1: board with with that one. But it's hard. I mean,

1854
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:19,840
Speaker 1: I think all those guys have do have some questions.

1855
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:22,519
Speaker 1: But I mean, just a guard that that's what I think.

1856
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:25,280
Speaker 1: I mean. The hope is that you know, Strange is

1857
01:36:25,320 --> 01:36:29,280
Speaker 1: just really solid, you know, like a Mankins, and it's like, Okay,

1858
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:31,800
Speaker 1: it was a guard, but he's been on our team

1859
01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:34,160
Speaker 1: for ten years and that was worth it. Yeah, you know,

1860
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:36,799
Speaker 1: you know, but it's like and also too like you say, Mankins,

1861
01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:41,440
Speaker 1: Like Mankins had like a personality, like a like a snarliness.

1862
01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:43,479
Speaker 1: He was part of the team's identity, you know. And

1863
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:46,160
Speaker 1: as much as I think like Strange could step in

1864
01:36:46,240 --> 01:36:49,120
Speaker 1: and be the starter there for ten years or whatever, like,

1865
01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:52,200
Speaker 1: I just hope that he's part of that kind of identity.

1866
01:36:52,320 --> 01:36:53,960
Speaker 1: Like you know, you're gonna have to be like well

1867
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:56,280
Speaker 1: Man he said. I mean, you talk to Mankins about

1868
01:36:56,280 --> 01:37:00,240
Speaker 1: the field, and he's as nice as some of that. Yeah,

1869
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:01,960
Speaker 1: Strange could be the same way. I just want to

1870
01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:04,080
Speaker 1: see a little you know, I wouldn't be I wouldn't

1871
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:06,120
Speaker 1: be upset with did you say it on the air

1872
01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:08,240
Speaker 1: about Mankins punching the guy? Yeah, you know, like I

1873
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:10,280
Speaker 1: wouldn't be opposed to something like that, you know, just

1874
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:13,559
Speaker 1: somebody who has that, yeah, you know, like I mean,

1875
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:14,920
Speaker 1: and we we kind of saw it a little bit

1876
01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:17,880
Speaker 1: with with Judeon and Mini Camp when you know, Strange

1877
01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 1: came running over. I mean, I think he'd be the

1878
01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:21,400
Speaker 1: classic guy that's kind of aw shucks off the field

1879
01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:23,720
Speaker 1: and then you know, once it's game time, right, just

1880
01:37:24,200 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 1: pain in the butt, a little throwing, little extra business

1881
01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:28,760
Speaker 1: here and there. But I'd like to see that out

1882
01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:30,720
Speaker 1: of him. I want to see some kind of you know,

1883
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:33,240
Speaker 1: presence that that it's not just okay, he's a solid

1884
01:37:33,320 --> 01:37:36,200
Speaker 1: left guard. He's a he's a tough so ob. You

1885
01:37:36,280 --> 01:37:38,160
Speaker 1: know that other teams are gonna be like, oh man,

1886
01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:40,040
Speaker 1: with this guy's going to be a dog fight for

1887
01:37:40,280 --> 01:37:44,360
Speaker 1: the full sixty minutes. Justin writes in from Alabama. Um,

1888
01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:46,720
Speaker 1: what would I do without you guys? You all have

1889
01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:49,280
Speaker 1: been my ear since the season Brady left. Wish I

1890
01:37:49,479 --> 01:37:52,280
Speaker 1: would have started listening earlier. Hate that I missed out

1891
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:55,599
Speaker 1: on Andy. My question today for y'all is what would

1892
01:37:55,640 --> 01:37:58,320
Speaker 1: you be doing if you had not gotten into sports?

1893
01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:01,559
Speaker 1: Still be Patriots fans, but made a different career choice.

1894
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:03,880
Speaker 1: I hate that I missed Paul because I love to

1895
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:06,240
Speaker 1: hear his take. Hope you guys have a great weekend

1896
01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:09,120
Speaker 1: looking forward to camp. What would we be doing if

1897
01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:11,320
Speaker 1: we didn't get into sports? I always said I would

1898
01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:13,920
Speaker 1: love to have been writing comedy for you know, even

1899
01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:16,600
Speaker 1: though yeah, I'll say I'm not funny. Well yeah, I

1900
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:18,680
Speaker 1: mean as I said before, usually the comedy writers are

1901
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:21,400
Speaker 1: like the depressed, morose ones, and drama writers are like

1902
01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:24,600
Speaker 1: really friendly and funny. I don't know, I mean, I

1903
01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:27,320
Speaker 1: gave the whole Hollywood thing a try. I got burned

1904
01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:30,280
Speaker 1: out on that though, So that was my start. Maybe

1905
01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:32,240
Speaker 1: if I'd had more success than that, I would have

1906
01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:34,080
Speaker 1: stuck with it, but I never really felt like I

1907
01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:36,400
Speaker 1: loved it. I remember going to Emerson, you know, and

1908
01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:39,160
Speaker 1: that was like all about TV production and writing and

1909
01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:42,120
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Everybody there was there with a purpose,

1910
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:45,080
Speaker 1: and they're telling us that, like the writers for Cheers

1911
01:38:45,200 --> 01:38:49,400
Speaker 1: made seventy grand an episode an episode. I was thinking

1912
01:38:49,439 --> 01:38:51,439
Speaker 1: probably coaching or teaching, but you know, I just wanted

1913
01:38:51,439 --> 01:38:54,080
Speaker 1: to do sports, So yeah, I could say coaching. I

1914
01:38:54,160 --> 01:38:57,320
Speaker 1: really enjoy coaching, Like having the limited experience I've had coaching,

1915
01:38:57,400 --> 01:39:00,680
Speaker 1: I mean I love coaches in general. But yeah, that's

1916
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:05,600
Speaker 1: it's definitely very challenging and also, you know, very satisfying

1917
01:39:05,680 --> 01:39:09,200
Speaker 1: in certain ways to the sport you love, you know, yeah, yeah,

1918
01:39:09,200 --> 01:39:10,800
Speaker 1: and just working with kids, and I mean that's what

1919
01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:12,880
Speaker 1: I like about refing, you know, just passing the legacy

1920
01:39:12,920 --> 01:39:15,400
Speaker 1: of the game on and seeing the next generation come

1921
01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:18,479
Speaker 1: up and excel, and you know, the excitement that continues

1922
01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:21,240
Speaker 1: to get regenerated for the sport with these coaching before

1923
01:39:21,280 --> 01:39:24,400
Speaker 1: they get the attitude too That's why I love Peewees.

1924
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:27,040
Speaker 1: That's twelve and under. Give me the twelve one unders

1925
01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:28,680
Speaker 1: all day long. They haven't they know, they know how

1926
01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:31,320
Speaker 1: to play the game. They're not little punks yet and

1927
01:39:31,720 --> 01:39:33,320
Speaker 1: it's just you know, they play it kind of the

1928
01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:35,240
Speaker 1: way I think it's supposed to be played. Yet, um,

1929
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:37,680
Speaker 1: you mean skating with a chair in front of the

1930
01:39:39,680 --> 01:39:42,559
Speaker 1: Pewees are about eleven and ten? N Okay? Yeah, Mark

1931
01:39:42,640 --> 01:39:45,040
Speaker 1: in the UK writes and as you as you are,

1932
01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:47,599
Speaker 1: like myself a man of more senior years, Fred, your

1933
01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:49,760
Speaker 1: memory may not recall what I'm about to tell you.

1934
01:39:50,479 --> 01:39:52,920
Speaker 1: Paul certainly won't remember, as it doesn't involve a pre

1935
01:39:53,120 --> 01:39:57,840
Speaker 1: dynastic random Patriots game. Back in late September two thousand

1936
01:39:57,840 --> 01:39:59,800
Speaker 1: and nine, my wife and I attended our first game

1937
01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:02,760
Speaker 1: at Gillette to see the Patriots beat the Falcons. The

1938
01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:05,120
Speaker 1: following week, you kindly allowed me to come into the

1939
01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:07,120
Speaker 1: studio as a guest for an episode of what was

1940
01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:11,200
Speaker 1: then PFW Progress. Most of the talk whilst I was

1941
01:40:11,280 --> 01:40:14,200
Speaker 1: there was about the patriots upcoming trip to London to

1942
01:40:14,280 --> 01:40:17,400
Speaker 1: play the Buccaneers. However, we also talked about soap with

1943
01:40:17,439 --> 01:40:21,320
Speaker 1: a slot back in oh nine, so talking about as

1944
01:40:21,360 --> 01:40:23,400
Speaker 1: the previous night, my wife and I had stayed at

1945
01:40:23,439 --> 01:40:26,960
Speaker 1: the Hotel Buckminster, having been to Fenway for a Red

1946
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:29,519
Speaker 1: Sox game. In the bathroom of our room, I was

1947
01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:32,559
Speaker 1: confronted with the holy Grail of soap with a slot.

1948
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:35,000
Speaker 1: Knowing that I would be seeing you the following day,

1949
01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:38,000
Speaker 1: immediately put it somewhere safe to bring along in the show,

1950
01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:40,840
Speaker 1: which I duly did. I still have it as a

1951
01:40:40,920 --> 01:40:43,439
Speaker 1: momentum of that trip, along with other items gathered on

1952
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:47,240
Speaker 1: subsequent visits to Foxborough with my UK friends. I have

1953
01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:50,080
Speaker 1: attached a couple of photos showing the soap itself and

1954
01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:52,800
Speaker 1: the box that came in with the explanation on the

1955
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:55,920
Speaker 1: side describing your idea. I must say that the actual

1956
01:40:55,960 --> 01:40:59,400
Speaker 1: bar seems to be more slot than soap. I can

1957
01:40:59,479 --> 01:41:02,800
Speaker 1: confirm that you are perfectly safe opening the photo attachments.

1958
01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:05,240
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that I may be able to get back

1959
01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:07,760
Speaker 1: to Jelette again this September with some friends for the

1960
01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:10,360
Speaker 1: Ravens game. In the meantime, keep doing what you do,

1961
01:41:10,560 --> 01:41:15,519
Speaker 1: especially those offseason shows. Your idea does exist, and he's

1962
01:41:15,560 --> 01:41:19,040
Speaker 1: got a picture of it. It's really it looks more

1963
01:41:19,080 --> 01:41:22,360
Speaker 1: like a donut with like he said, it's mostly whole,

1964
01:41:22,920 --> 01:41:25,280
Speaker 1: so I don't know like how this would work with

1965
01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:29,680
Speaker 1: the other soap. It's too the hole's too big. I

1966
01:41:29,800 --> 01:41:32,000
Speaker 1: just realized, Fred, you probably have a lot of respect

1967
01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:33,439
Speaker 1: for this. The guy who came up with soap on

1968
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:35,679
Speaker 1: a rope? Huh, Like a guy that changed the soap game.

1969
01:41:36,640 --> 01:41:39,559
Speaker 1: First guy who changed the soap game, Soap on a rope? Guy? Like, Well,

1970
01:41:39,640 --> 01:41:42,240
Speaker 1: we used to have a thing back when we first started.

1971
01:41:42,520 --> 01:41:45,840
Speaker 1: It was, you know, we'd bring in new people. We said, well,

1972
01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:48,560
Speaker 1: you know, part of the hazing or the you know,

1973
01:41:49,360 --> 01:41:51,760
Speaker 1: uh indoctrination is you have to take a shower with

1974
01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:56,680
Speaker 1: Bruce Armstrong and soap him up. So and we have

1975
01:41:56,840 --> 01:42:01,320
Speaker 1: one kid like he's buying it. It's like, all right,

1976
01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:06,760
Speaker 1: I can have soft hands. Yeah. Uh, let's see what

1977
01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:11,000
Speaker 1: else we got. Um Reno writes in who are your

1978
01:42:11,080 --> 01:42:14,600
Speaker 1: top five most important or best players going into the

1979
01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:17,800
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two season? If you had to say, now,

1980
01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:21,599
Speaker 1: who gets extended? Who would it be? You know who

1981
01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:25,679
Speaker 1: gets extended first? Would it be Barmore or Mac? Also

1982
01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:28,120
Speaker 1: shut out to my new favorite member Alex. Haven't had

1983
01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:30,320
Speaker 1: a favorite since Andy left. Well she's not here today,

1984
01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:34,639
Speaker 1: but anyway, two questions five most important or best players

1985
01:42:34,720 --> 01:42:37,800
Speaker 1: going into the season, Macs number one, Macks number one,

1986
01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:43,160
Speaker 1: DeVante Parker's number two, Barmore's number three. For me, I

1987
01:42:43,200 --> 01:42:46,799
Speaker 1: would have Jude on up there. I think Kendrick Boorne, Okay,

1988
01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:49,000
Speaker 1: I could say I mean honestly, I would just say

1989
01:42:49,160 --> 01:42:50,960
Speaker 1: one of the receivers, like one of them has to,

1990
01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:54,719
Speaker 1: you know, take take a little bittorn. Yeah, Born and Parker,

1991
01:42:55,400 --> 01:42:58,960
Speaker 1: Um couple on the corners down there. Yeah, you got

1992
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:01,240
Speaker 1: to pick a corner. I don't know, And I'm tempted

1993
01:43:01,360 --> 01:43:03,880
Speaker 1: by by Ray Kawan McMillan. Just you know a guy

1994
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:07,920
Speaker 1: that might come in and really play a huge role. Um,

1995
01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:10,200
Speaker 1: there's a lot. I mean, I think there's a lot

1996
01:43:10,240 --> 01:43:12,880
Speaker 1: of guy. It's hard to boiler. Who's your Cinderella, Who's

1997
01:43:12,880 --> 01:43:16,519
Speaker 1: your sleeper? Who's the guy that you know we're hoping,

1998
01:43:17,360 --> 01:43:20,360
Speaker 1: you know, has a great season and actually will, but

1999
01:43:20,479 --> 01:43:24,760
Speaker 1: we don't know, we have no idea. Um, I don't

2000
01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:26,680
Speaker 1: know if he's a sleeper. But I one guy that

2001
01:43:26,760 --> 01:43:29,360
Speaker 1: I just would throw out there is um is Henry Anderson.

2002
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:31,760
Speaker 1: I know we didn't see much out of him, lad

2003
01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:33,840
Speaker 1: one Um and he was kind of on the bubble

2004
01:43:34,040 --> 01:43:36,400
Speaker 1: I think when when when Coutt's happened, he got hurt

2005
01:43:36,439 --> 01:43:38,280
Speaker 1: and we didn't really get to see him. But I

2006
01:43:38,360 --> 01:43:40,479
Speaker 1: think in the defensive line group, there's just not really

2007
01:43:40,520 --> 01:43:43,040
Speaker 1: any new pieces other than Sam Roberts and Lebrian Ray.

2008
01:43:43,160 --> 01:43:46,439
Speaker 1: So I could maybe there's some some potential there with Henrews.

2009
01:43:46,439 --> 01:43:47,720
Speaker 1: He's had a couple of good years with the Jets.

2010
01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:49,360
Speaker 1: I know he's a big, tough guy, and I mean

2011
01:43:49,400 --> 01:43:50,800
Speaker 1: I think he's kind of what they need. I don't

2012
01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:52,280
Speaker 1: know for sure though, he could end up cut, but

2013
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:54,519
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit intrigued just by his return. And

2014
01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:57,400
Speaker 1: you know something that he could offer to this. I

2015
01:43:57,439 --> 01:43:59,559
Speaker 1: think it's Miles Bryant or Butler. I just I need

2016
01:43:59,680 --> 01:44:01,400
Speaker 1: one of the owners to step up, like I know

2017
01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:06,120
Speaker 1: I want. Mine is Pat mcgron. I mean, yeah, yeah,

2018
01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:09,000
Speaker 1: we'll see. I mean, if cam mcgroan comes in and

2019
01:44:09,160 --> 01:44:11,439
Speaker 1: beats out McMillan and mac wilson and you know it

2020
01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:14,400
Speaker 1: is suddenly getting run, I mean, it'd be huge. You'd

2021
01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:16,800
Speaker 1: see it to be kind of meteoric. I don't really

2022
01:44:16,840 --> 01:44:19,439
Speaker 1: expect it. I expect to see I expect Wilson and

2023
01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:21,920
Speaker 1: McMillan to be kind of the two guys with with

2024
01:44:22,120 --> 01:44:25,120
Speaker 1: Jawan Bentley and then the and who gets extended first,

2025
01:44:25,200 --> 01:44:29,880
Speaker 1: Barmore or Mac Jones. I think it's tough. I mean

2026
01:44:30,120 --> 01:44:32,479
Speaker 1: if they both do they both do? I mean I

2027
01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:35,439
Speaker 1: think baros an easier Conn. No, I think it's Mac Jones.

2028
01:44:36,160 --> 01:44:38,560
Speaker 1: You got to get that quarterback early. I agree. I

2029
01:44:38,600 --> 01:44:41,360
Speaker 1: just think there's more paperwork with the quarterbacks. You just

2030
01:44:41,439 --> 01:44:43,720
Speaker 1: don't know how the market's gonna be. Yeah, it's tough.

2031
01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:48,559
Speaker 1: I mean i'd like to say Mac, but I mean

2032
01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:51,320
Speaker 1: there is a feeling and maybe they could get Barmore,

2033
01:44:51,400 --> 01:44:53,080
Speaker 1: But Barmore feels like the kind of guy who's going

2034
01:44:53,120 --> 01:44:56,160
Speaker 1: to be keenly aware of his standing. Just he gets

2035
01:44:56,200 --> 01:44:57,680
Speaker 1: a lot of hype and there's not a lot of

2036
01:44:58,080 --> 01:45:00,040
Speaker 1: guys getting hype on his team right now. And I

2037
01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:02,360
Speaker 1: think he's won that, especially if he has a great

2038
01:45:02,439 --> 01:45:05,439
Speaker 1: year this year, that's he's People are gonna know who

2039
01:45:05,479 --> 01:45:07,200
Speaker 1: he is and with his skill set. I mean it's

2040
01:45:07,240 --> 01:45:09,840
Speaker 1: hard to pry a quarterback from a team. But but

2041
01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:11,800
Speaker 1: a defensive lineman like that, I mean, I know if

2042
01:45:11,800 --> 01:45:14,120
Speaker 1: I was elsewhere and saw that guy available, I'd go

2043
01:45:14,240 --> 01:45:17,200
Speaker 1: I'd go all into try to get them. Oh yeah,

2044
01:45:17,439 --> 01:45:19,320
Speaker 1: But it's hard because they haven't extended a lot of guys,

2045
01:45:19,360 --> 01:45:21,120
Speaker 1: like what Adrian Phillips was that the last one? I

2046
01:45:21,200 --> 01:45:24,559
Speaker 1: mean there's you know, there's just not well lately, there

2047
01:45:24,640 --> 01:45:27,080
Speaker 1: hasn't been a lot of you. I mean, I know,

2048
01:45:27,160 --> 01:45:29,040
Speaker 1: a free agency and you bring mcportey back for a

2049
01:45:29,080 --> 01:45:30,640
Speaker 1: couple more. I mean, you know there are guys that

2050
01:45:30,680 --> 01:45:33,479
Speaker 1: they bring back, but guys that they proactively extend right

2051
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:36,479
Speaker 1: before their contract. I mean that list is I'm thinking

2052
01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:39,920
Speaker 1: fifth year option. They've picked up Jonathan Jones a couple

2053
01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:43,920
Speaker 1: of years ago, Shack Mason a couple of years ago. Yeah. Uh,

2054
01:45:44,120 --> 01:45:47,080
Speaker 1: David and Maine writes in uh, I want to add

2055
01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:50,200
Speaker 1: my two cents to the Patriot Place discussion. My buddies

2056
01:45:50,200 --> 01:45:53,400
Speaker 1: and I were impressed with Wormtown Brewery at Patriot Place.

2057
01:45:53,479 --> 01:45:56,439
Speaker 1: Plenty of open space inside and some great october Fest

2058
01:45:56,520 --> 01:45:59,640
Speaker 1: style beers would be happy shout out where we had

2059
01:45:59,680 --> 01:46:03,080
Speaker 1: a Cecily's Yeah, Sionara, that was a really good. Uh,

2060
01:46:04,160 --> 01:46:08,679
Speaker 1: of course there's cbscne Um. I've never been in there. Actually. Yeah,

2061
01:46:08,680 --> 01:46:12,160
Speaker 1: they've got a huge TV, huge, a lot of big

2062
01:46:12,240 --> 01:46:14,439
Speaker 1: TVs in this place. Yeah, he gonna get another big

2063
01:46:14,439 --> 01:46:18,080
Speaker 1: one too. Um, let's see there was one I wanted

2064
01:46:18,080 --> 01:46:21,280
Speaker 1: to oh, Neil writes in um he says, I haven't

2065
01:46:21,320 --> 01:46:23,360
Speaker 1: written in in a while, but the following proves I've

2066
01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:26,160
Speaker 1: been listening. One glad to see the end of soap talk.

2067
01:46:26,240 --> 01:46:30,479
Speaker 1: Well you haven't seen it too. As a Canadian, I

2068
01:46:30,560 --> 01:46:33,680
Speaker 1: can confirm number four Bobby or is revered as an

2069
01:46:33,720 --> 01:46:36,840
Speaker 1: all time great Canadian hockey player Parry Sound, Ontario. I

2070
01:46:36,840 --> 01:46:39,760
Speaker 1: mean he's from Canada, so yes, they do have some claim.

2071
01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:43,320
Speaker 1: And three Matt Jones's girlfriend seems very sweet and beautiful.

2072
01:46:43,400 --> 01:46:45,840
Speaker 1: I hope he sticks with her and stays away from

2073
01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:51,120
Speaker 1: the moms. Like du said, boring is good. I love boring. Yeah,

2074
01:46:51,240 --> 01:46:53,960
Speaker 1: she's you know, seems very sweet, just like your classic

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01:46:54,080 --> 01:46:59,759
Speaker 1: kind of Alabama Southern Drew Bledsoe. You know he married

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Speaker 1: his high school sweetheart Mara. Yeah, keep it simple. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: My question builds on the butterfly effect hypothetical questions. What

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01:47:07,960 --> 01:47:11,639
Speaker 1: if instead of picking the kill Harry in nineteen Bill

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01:47:11,760 --> 01:47:14,120
Speaker 1: chose one of the following that were picked after him, Deebo,

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01:47:14,200 --> 01:47:17,640
Speaker 1: Samuel A. J. Brown, McLaurin or DK Metcalf. How are

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01:47:17,720 --> 01:47:20,879
Speaker 1: things different today? For example, is Brady still our quarterback?

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01:47:21,200 --> 01:47:23,040
Speaker 1: Do we make it to the Super Bowl in nineteen.

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01:47:23,400 --> 01:47:26,320
Speaker 1: Every team makes draft mistakes, but it feels like this

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01:47:26,520 --> 01:47:30,960
Speaker 1: one's set in motion a lot of future problems we're

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01:47:31,000 --> 01:47:33,880
Speaker 1: touching on. Paul asked that earlier, would Brady have still

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01:47:34,479 --> 01:47:38,360
Speaker 1: stayed if they had Deebo Samuel or DK Metcalf watching

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01:47:38,360 --> 01:47:40,880
Speaker 1: the man in the arena, it just he just seemed

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01:47:40,880 --> 01:47:43,080
Speaker 1: like he was burnt out, just you know, kind of

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01:47:43,120 --> 01:47:44,800
Speaker 1: seemed to let it out. I don't know, Yeah, I

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01:47:45,120 --> 01:47:46,960
Speaker 1: agree with that. I've caught a few of the twenty

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Speaker 1: nineteen games that have been on over the last couple

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Speaker 1: of years, a couple of weeks. I don't know that

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01:47:52,360 --> 01:47:54,360
Speaker 1: I've caught a couple, but I don't know. They just

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01:47:54,439 --> 01:47:56,519
Speaker 1: looks something off to me about Brady compared to what

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01:47:56,560 --> 01:47:58,519
Speaker 1: I see him at Tampa now, Like I feel that

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01:47:58,760 --> 01:48:01,360
Speaker 1: like dissatisfied action. But I think it's a good question.

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01:48:01,720 --> 01:48:04,000
Speaker 1: I just wonder if it's enough, Like, you know, even

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01:48:04,040 --> 01:48:06,439
Speaker 1: if A. J. Brown was drafted, came in had a

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01:48:06,520 --> 01:48:10,320
Speaker 1: really good rookie year, Let's say, you know, whatever, Deon

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Speaker 1: Branches rookie, you know, he had a solid rookie year

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and two. Is it enough? Is it

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01:48:14,960 --> 01:48:16,360
Speaker 1: enough to keep him her? Is it enough to make

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01:48:16,439 --> 01:48:20,439
Speaker 1: him happy if he's still throwing them Matt Lacosse and

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01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:23,320
Speaker 1: Ryan Izzo at tight end and you know all the

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01:48:23,400 --> 01:48:27,160
Speaker 1: other like the Mohammed Sanu thing. Like it's just that's

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01:48:27,200 --> 01:48:28,640
Speaker 1: why I like, you know, when I look at the

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01:48:28,720 --> 01:48:31,160
Speaker 1: depth chart compared to that season, it's like, how can

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01:48:31,200 --> 01:48:33,080
Speaker 1: you not look at two twenty twenty two and feel

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01:48:33,080 --> 01:48:34,800
Speaker 1: this what you and I feel Fred at least a

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01:48:35,240 --> 01:48:37,240
Speaker 1: sense of all right, there's something to work with him.

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Speaker 1: You look at that depth chart in twenty nineteen, there's nothing,

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01:48:42,320 --> 01:48:44,679
Speaker 1: there's nothing there, and you had to go get Mohammed

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01:48:44,720 --> 01:48:47,599
Speaker 1: Sanu who gave you nothing too. That was a desperation trade,

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01:48:47,680 --> 01:48:49,320
Speaker 1: you know. So I you know, and that you know,

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Speaker 1: this all goes back to why I quote unquote hey Brady,

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01:48:51,800 --> 01:48:53,720
Speaker 1: But it's like what was there for him? Like even

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01:48:53,880 --> 01:48:56,680
Speaker 1: was Aj Brown enough? When I don't know, I mean,

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01:48:56,800 --> 01:48:59,200
Speaker 1: how how could Aj Brown have even you know, been

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01:48:59,320 --> 01:49:02,720
Speaker 1: successful here without a Derrick Henry type running back to

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01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:04,519
Speaker 1: kind of help Like he would have been the only

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01:49:04,600 --> 01:49:07,200
Speaker 1: thing here. I mean him and Edelman with one leg

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01:49:07,280 --> 01:49:09,200
Speaker 1: for what three weeks and then that was it? You know?

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01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:12,559
Speaker 1: So I mean it's it's fun to play what if

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01:49:13,320 --> 01:49:15,960
Speaker 1: you know? And that's even before you get to would

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01:49:15,960 --> 01:49:17,920
Speaker 1: these guys even still be here? I mean, debot, you

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01:49:18,000 --> 01:49:20,240
Speaker 1: got it? You were they ready to pony ump after

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01:49:20,360 --> 01:49:22,960
Speaker 1: year three with these guys as well, and we just

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01:49:23,200 --> 01:49:25,080
Speaker 1: got done talking about how they don't. They haven't really

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01:49:25,120 --> 01:49:30,240
Speaker 1: extended anyone, So it's certainly not an easy, easy projection.

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01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:34,599
Speaker 1: Pat and aguam right said, praise Jesus Harry's gone. Seriously, though,

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01:49:34,640 --> 01:49:36,559
Speaker 1: I wish nothing but the best for the kid, hopefully

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01:49:36,720 --> 01:49:39,519
Speaker 1: makes something of his career in Chicago. I wanted to

2133
01:49:39,600 --> 01:49:42,320
Speaker 1: also give kudos to Paul for a great article on

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01:49:42,479 --> 01:49:44,320
Speaker 1: making the case for Craft for the Hall of Fame.

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01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:49,080
Speaker 1: One deserves to be in there. And one final thing,

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Speaker 1: I love Kate Bush, but if you get a chance,

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01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:55,040
Speaker 1: check out a cover of Running Up That Hill from

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01:49:55,080 --> 01:49:57,760
Speaker 1: an artist called Meg Myers from a couple of years ago.

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01:49:58,120 --> 01:50:03,160
Speaker 1: She absolutely crushes it. Okay, I mean cover two. What

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01:50:03,240 --> 01:50:06,479
Speaker 1: does that have to do with Stranger Things? Though? Yeah,

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01:50:07,680 --> 01:50:12,400
Speaker 1: same song? I don't know. Um, let's see. Matt writes

2142
01:50:12,479 --> 01:50:14,720
Speaker 1: in was wondering if Paul or any of you can

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01:50:14,760 --> 01:50:17,080
Speaker 1: help me out. We all know Paul's take on the

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01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:20,519
Speaker 1: cap being crap. But I don't understand when he says

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01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:23,400
Speaker 1: it's about the owner paying the money in it not

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01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:26,160
Speaker 1: being the cap. I was on the understanding that you

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01:50:26,320 --> 01:50:29,639
Speaker 1: had the yearly salary which goes against that year's cap,

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01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:32,400
Speaker 1: and you can pay a signing bonus that gets spread

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01:50:32,520 --> 01:50:36,120
Speaker 1: evenly through the years of the deal, so it will

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01:50:36,160 --> 01:50:39,160
Speaker 1: still count against the cap. That is all true. I

2151
01:50:39,280 --> 01:50:45,040
Speaker 1: think what Paul is talking about is it's cash spent,

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01:50:45,240 --> 01:50:50,160
Speaker 1: so like guaranteed money. Yeah, it's it's the initial outlay

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01:50:50,640 --> 01:50:53,200
Speaker 1: and the initial outlay, like even if it's spread out,

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01:50:54,240 --> 01:50:56,040
Speaker 1: like there's a certain amount of money that has to

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01:50:56,120 --> 01:50:58,920
Speaker 1: be paid in full to the player, you know, the

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01:50:59,000 --> 01:51:03,240
Speaker 1: guarante and the guarantee money. And some owners have more

2157
01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:07,720
Speaker 1: fluidity there, you know, to be able to do that,

2158
01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:10,879
Speaker 1: and you still have to fit under the cap eventually,

2159
01:51:11,000 --> 01:51:13,320
Speaker 1: but you can just keep pushing it out, pushing it out,

2160
01:51:13,400 --> 01:51:15,080
Speaker 1: pushing it out. I forget what the number was the

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01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:18,000
Speaker 1: guaranteed money they gave out last offseason. I want to

2162
01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:20,280
Speaker 1: say one hundred and fifty maybe like somewhere maybe in

2163
01:51:20,360 --> 01:51:22,760
Speaker 1: that ballpark. And I mean, and then I tallied up

2164
01:51:22,840 --> 01:51:26,360
Speaker 1: this year twenty seven, you know, twenty seven. I mean

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01:51:26,439 --> 01:51:29,280
Speaker 1: that's the contrast of how different the two different free

2166
01:51:29,320 --> 01:51:32,680
Speaker 1: agent classes were. I mean, yeah, not a lot of

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01:51:32,720 --> 01:51:35,040
Speaker 1: guaranteed money, but I mean there's just there's always ways

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01:51:35,080 --> 01:51:36,720
Speaker 1: around it. I think that's like, you know, the cap

2169
01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:39,479
Speaker 1: is crap stuff. It's it's certainly a parameter and it's

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01:51:39,520 --> 01:51:42,080
Speaker 1: something that you have to consider, right, but there are

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01:51:42,240 --> 01:51:44,479
Speaker 1: ways around it if you're willing to, you know, maybe

2172
01:51:44,680 --> 01:51:47,320
Speaker 1: kick some money down the road. Yeah, it's definitely of

2173
01:51:47,560 --> 01:51:50,479
Speaker 1: the major sports, well, baseball really doesn't have a cap,

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01:51:50,520 --> 01:51:53,040
Speaker 1: they just have the luxury tax. But of the sports

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01:51:53,080 --> 01:51:56,320
Speaker 1: that have caps, Football's a is the loosest. You know,

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01:51:56,439 --> 01:52:00,439
Speaker 1: you can maneuver more, but you still have to make decisions. Yeah,

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01:52:00,560 --> 01:52:03,720
Speaker 1: you know, so it's not totally crap. It forces you

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01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:07,200
Speaker 1: to make decisions, right, you can make there's options if

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01:52:07,240 --> 01:52:09,400
Speaker 1: you like Paulse's if you really want a guy, you

2180
01:52:09,479 --> 01:52:11,600
Speaker 1: can figure it out. You can, but you have to

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01:52:11,760 --> 01:52:14,960
Speaker 1: figure it out, that's the point. And you gotta be

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01:52:15,040 --> 01:52:17,000
Speaker 1: willing to maybe do some things that you don't want

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01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:19,160
Speaker 1: to do in terms of finances down the road. And

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Speaker 1: you know, i mean, let's talk in twenty twenty five,

2185
01:52:21,920 --> 01:52:24,080
Speaker 1: when there's still a dead cap, hit for Devin mccordy,

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01:52:24,120 --> 01:52:25,760
Speaker 1: you know, like those are the things that they're doing

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01:52:26,160 --> 01:52:28,720
Speaker 1: to get around some of the cap. But I just think, like,

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01:52:28,840 --> 01:52:30,360
Speaker 1: as I said, the kap of crap. It's a cute

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01:52:30,479 --> 01:52:32,559
Speaker 1: you know, hey, it rhymes, but it's well, I think

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01:52:32,600 --> 01:52:35,640
Speaker 1: it's lazy. I think it's code for you whatever you want,

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01:52:37,240 --> 01:52:40,880
Speaker 1: your owner's cheap, you know, um, you know, And I

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01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:44,080
Speaker 1: do think that some times, you know, teams will use

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01:52:44,160 --> 01:52:46,439
Speaker 1: the cap as a crutch. You know, we we you know,

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01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:48,960
Speaker 1: we had cap problems, Like Paul says, if you really

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01:52:49,000 --> 01:52:51,920
Speaker 1: wanted the guy, you could have, but he wasn't worth

2196
01:52:52,720 --> 01:52:55,640
Speaker 1: he wasn't worth us figuring it out, you know, And

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01:52:55,800 --> 01:52:59,120
Speaker 1: so it I guess it's semantics, but it's it's not

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01:52:59,280 --> 01:53:02,200
Speaker 1: totally crap. It forces you to have to make decisions.

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01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:05,240
Speaker 1: He says. I'm not against how the Rams do business,

2200
01:53:05,240 --> 01:53:06,960
Speaker 1: but I don't understand how they can have one of

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01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:10,360
Speaker 1: the highest paid quarterbacks, the highest paid non quarterback, and

2202
01:53:10,520 --> 01:53:13,560
Speaker 1: also one of the highest paid wide receivers and cornerbacks

2203
01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:16,920
Speaker 1: while still paying the rest of their team when other

2204
01:53:17,000 --> 01:53:20,400
Speaker 1: teams with a lot lesser player in contracts can't. Is

2205
01:53:20,439 --> 01:53:23,000
Speaker 1: there another way to pay players that doesn't count against

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01:53:23,040 --> 01:53:25,680
Speaker 1: the cap. Well, at the end of the day, you know,

2207
01:53:25,760 --> 01:53:28,960
Speaker 1: you have to look at all their salaries and you

2208
01:53:29,040 --> 01:53:33,120
Speaker 1: know it fits as they figured out how to make

2209
01:53:33,120 --> 01:53:34,960
Speaker 1: it fit. So there's probably a lot of guys on

2210
01:53:35,040 --> 01:53:38,880
Speaker 1: the team that aren't making even middle class salaries, right,

2211
01:53:39,000 --> 01:53:40,559
Speaker 1: or you know, or they're just on their rookie deals

2212
01:53:40,600 --> 01:53:43,280
Speaker 1: and they drafted well and they've got guys that actually play.

2213
01:53:43,560 --> 01:53:45,960
Speaker 1: For examples, the Seahawks Legion of Boom, like you hit,

2214
01:53:46,040 --> 01:53:48,840
Speaker 1: you built that whole team through drafting and then right,

2215
01:53:48,920 --> 01:53:50,880
Speaker 1: looks what happened out to twenty fourteen. They just fell apart.

2216
01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:53,160
Speaker 1: You're gonna keep everybody happy, right, There comes a time

2217
01:53:53,240 --> 01:53:56,200
Speaker 1: in September, just before the season where every team has

2218
01:53:56,240 --> 01:53:58,519
Speaker 1: to be under the cap. League said, I don't care

2219
01:53:58,560 --> 01:54:02,360
Speaker 1: how you do it. You can structure your contracts anyway,

2220
01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:04,760
Speaker 1: do whatever you want, spread it out, but at this

2221
01:54:05,120 --> 01:54:07,639
Speaker 1: date you have to be under the cap. And there's

2222
01:54:07,680 --> 01:54:10,559
Speaker 1: no way and that in that there's no wiggle role.

2223
01:54:10,920 --> 01:54:12,960
Speaker 1: You know. The Falcons last year, right, wasn't it Julio.

2224
01:54:13,000 --> 01:54:15,040
Speaker 1: They couldn't sign Kyle Pits until they got rid of

2225
01:54:15,080 --> 01:54:16,960
Speaker 1: Julio because of the calf issues. Right, so they had

2226
01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:18,800
Speaker 1: to make a decision. Yeah. I mean the same thing

2227
01:54:18,840 --> 01:54:20,360
Speaker 1: with the Patriots right now, where they're like, I know,

2228
01:54:20,520 --> 01:54:22,519
Speaker 1: up against it with cap space and I think Carry

2229
01:54:22,680 --> 01:54:25,880
Speaker 1: opened up a million, and you know, but it ultimately

2230
01:54:25,880 --> 01:54:27,400
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. But I just I don't think it's

2231
01:54:27,400 --> 01:54:30,000
Speaker 1: that complicated draft. Well, you know, if you draft, well,

2232
01:54:30,320 --> 01:54:32,480
Speaker 1: you'll have money elsewhere to spend. If you're able to

2233
01:54:32,560 --> 01:54:34,960
Speaker 1: play third fourth round picks on that salary and they're

2234
01:54:34,960 --> 01:54:38,040
Speaker 1: playing significant roles for you, You've got money to keep

2235
01:54:38,080 --> 01:54:40,000
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald and to keep Cooper Cup and to go

2236
01:54:40,040 --> 01:54:42,440
Speaker 1: out and get Matthew Stafford. You know that. That's what

2237
01:54:42,520 --> 01:54:44,080
Speaker 1: it is. It's a draft, and it's the same reason

2238
01:54:44,160 --> 01:54:45,920
Speaker 1: why the Patriots have kind of had a down period

2239
01:54:46,000 --> 01:54:49,520
Speaker 1: right now. We're talking earlier about quarterbacks who maybe would

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Speaker 1: have been good if they Tony says Burt Jones. Remember

2241
01:54:53,080 --> 01:54:55,440
Speaker 1: him with the Colts. I don't remember. You know, Belichick

2242
01:54:55,680 --> 01:54:58,120
Speaker 1: I think was a big Burt Jones fan. I think

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01:54:58,120 --> 01:55:01,440
Speaker 1: I remember him talking about, yeah, all right, we're gonna

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01:55:01,480 --> 01:55:03,320
Speaker 1: have to end the show. I got things to do.

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01:55:03,680 --> 01:55:10,600
Speaker 1: I'm very busy. There's a lot happening, So appreciate you listening.

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