1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast podcast podcast. All right, 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: here we go spreading the corn. Ten seconds of maning. 3 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: You just go show me up to the basket. Under 4 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: the basket. It's the truth for the. 5 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: Wind god. 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: Amerracle I. 7 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 2: The water hit that one from the parking lot. What's 8 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 2: up the generation. Welcome to the Big Bets on Campus Podcast. 9 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: This is the Conference Tournament Betting Preview, Part two. I'm 10 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: stuck you in joining me today my fellow BBOC co 11 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: host of The Three Men Weave, Jim Root. Today we 12 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: are going to cover the Summit, the NEC, the Big South, 13 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: and the OVC. If you missed part one, the guys 14 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: from The Three Men Weave on Sunday Night covered Horizon 15 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 2: Belt and Patriot. To give you my picks for those 16 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: just people the tournams that have already started. I'm going 17 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: North Alabama, Milwaukee, buck Now and Texas State. Those are 18 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 2: my picks for those. 19 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: Uh Texas State, he says, climbing the ladder in the 20 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: sun Belt. 21 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: I am I'm getting I don't I don't know. This 22 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: Sunbolt is a wild league this year we have You're 23 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 2: gonna talking about a wild wild league. I'm looking forward 24 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 2: to talking to the OVC with you because that conference 25 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: is a mess. But I'm looking forward to going through 26 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 2: each of these four with you. Jim, which one are 27 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 2: you looking forward to talking about the most? 28 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: Summit? Something's always fun. I just like the venue. It's 29 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: not actually at the Pentagon, it gets confused every year. 30 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: It's at a similar, similarly named Sandford Venue in Sioux Falls. 31 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: But none of the teams play defense. They get up 32 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: and down. There's all scoring, and typically you get some 33 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: really good games. So some it's the one I'm most 34 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: looking forward to, but got a couple of good ones here. 35 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's start in the summit. It is in Sioux Falls, 36 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: which is about an hour from both South Dakota and 37 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 2: South Dakota State, I believe. And yeah, it's at the 38 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: Sandford Center, which is the same name as where South 39 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 2: Dakota plays. All nine teams make it UMKC or Kansas 40 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: City Now and Oral Roberts will play in the playing 41 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: game on Wednesday. The winner will play the surprise one 42 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 2: seed Omaha. The four or five game is North Dakota 43 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: State South Dakota, two, seven is Saint Thomas, Denver, and 44 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 2: three is South Dakota State. North Dakota Saint Thomas is 45 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 2: ineligible for the NCAA Tournament, so if they win it, 46 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: it would be Omaha that goes, which I guess is 47 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 2: noteworthy because Saint Thomas is one of the favorites and 48 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: Omaha is one of the things favorites up top. So 49 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: if they make it, if they both make it, Omaha, 50 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: I'm sure they still want to win a conference tournament. 51 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: But it's worth noting that if the meat, if it 52 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: is Omaha or Saint Thomas, Omaha WI already know they're 53 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: in the NCAA Tournament. So even though Omaha is the 54 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: one seed, they're plus five point fifty. Market does not 55 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: they have Market doesn't believe in Omaha all year. Uh, 56 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 2: Saint Thomas plus some on FanDuel lines right now, Saint 57 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 2: Thomas plus two to seventy. South Dakota State the three seed, 58 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: is the favorite of plus two to twenty. North Dakota 59 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: State's right there with them plus two twenty. And then 60 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: you have your long shots South Dakota thirty two to one, 61 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: North Dakota forty two to one, Denver eighty to one, 62 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: UMKC twenty nine to one, or Roberts two hundred and 63 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: fifty to one. I can tell you the market laws. 64 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 2: North Dakota State always love. They love North Dakota State 65 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: hate Omaha. It's because North Dakota State, who, by the way, 66 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 2: you mentioned as an offensive league. There's no defense, and 67 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: these teams don't bet them. I mean, we'll see where 68 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: the lines. But in the tournament they stink someone will 69 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: fall in love with it, but they never pull up sets. 70 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: They don't profile as a team that can because they 71 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: don't play any defense. There are some really good players 72 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: and some really good offenses, there's no defense. The two 73 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 2: exceptions are Kansas City, which is all defense and horrendous offense, 74 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: and then Denver, who actually show value in Denver to 75 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 2: win this league at eighty to one, I make them 76 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: like forty five to one, and it's mainly because they've 77 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 2: been so good of late. They've been the fourth best 78 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 2: team per Torvik over the past ten games. And there's 79 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 2: no three point luck driven. They figured out life after Brunner, 80 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: who was their stud last year, and they didn't have 81 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: Craig for a few games, their best guard, and they 82 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 2: have a legit defense. They have two seven footers that 83 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: they didn't have for most of the year that are 84 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 2: now playing. Their offense is ugly. I mean, it's just 85 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: a bunch of mid range shots they turn it over, 86 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: but their defense is real. I don't eighty to one 87 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: seems a little wild to me. But then again, Denver 88 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 2: away from home, are they really going to make a run? 89 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 2: I don't know what, uh what sticks out to you 90 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 2: most when you first look at this bracket. 91 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: I want to ask quick question. First, if it is 92 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: Saint Thomas over Omaha in the title game, do they 93 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: go to opposite ends of the court and each cut 94 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: down a net? Like? 95 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: How does that? 96 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: How does that work? 97 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:24,799 Speaker 2: Didn't happen to happen before? 98 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: I think so when somebody was clinched and I don't 99 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: remember exactly what they did, if it was maybe the 100 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: a soun might have had that one year for somebody 101 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: who was in eligib like Bellerman. 102 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 2: Or Eman, I think yeah. 103 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: And then obviously when Fairley Dickinson beat Perdue, they they 104 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: did not win the tournament. That was actually Merrimack that 105 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: won it. But yeah, that that would be a very 106 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: entertaining outcome. Yet, looking at this, you mentioned the market 107 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: loves North Dakota State, and I think people that just 108 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 1: kind of loosely look at this league. Love North Dakota 109 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: State because they take the most threes in the country. 110 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: They make a ton of them, but they lost six 111 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 1: games in the double round robin, Like they're not the 112 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: best team. I'm prize there atop the odds there, and 113 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: I think it's partially because Omaha's people are skeptical of them. 114 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: My first instinct was, okay, best player in this conference, 115 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: most dominant player is Oscar Clough, the monster big man 116 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: for South Dakota State. But they just lost their point 117 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: guard Owen Larsen to a torn acl and they dropped 118 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: one by sixteen to end the season against your Denver Pioneers. 119 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: So I'm a little lower on South Dakota State. It's 120 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 1: even zero. Went further on Denver. Over the last five games, 121 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: they're the number one team in the Summit. They're number 122 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: ten in the entire country in two point percentage defense, 123 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: Like they've really figured out that end of the floor. 124 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: But I like Saint Thomas Stuckey. I think the fact 125 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: that everybody's playing for a postseason berth so it's maybe 126 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: not an extra incentive for Saint Thomas to win this, 127 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: but the fact that they're ineligible this is really their 128 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and they're super well coached. Johnny Tower's done 129 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: a great job elevating them in four short years from 130 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: Division three, like they skip Division two, and they've accumulated 131 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: enough athletes now enough shooting, enough skill to compete in 132 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: this league. And although they have that first round match 133 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: up with Denver, who I agree is a little undervalued, 134 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: I think Saint Thomas gets to that title game, and 135 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: if it's against Omaha, then we've got that really fun, 136 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: semi meaningless game. 137 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's with Denver. They didn't have Isaiah Carr for 138 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 2: like twenty games, and then there are other seven foot 139 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: they didn't have for like twenty games too, and they 140 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 2: both have been available for the past five That coincides 141 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: with their two point defense. I will say I actually 142 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 2: I show a little value in Omaha. I make them 143 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 2: like four to four to four point two to one, 144 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: and you can get like plus five fifty out there. 145 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 2: They just don't get any respect. I didn't respect them 146 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: all in there. They were running really well from three, 147 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: but they ended up shooting over forty percent from three 148 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 2: in League Black, Like I have to start to believe it, 149 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 2: I don't. I mean, looking at like their pass splits. 150 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 2: It's probably I don't know, there might still be some 151 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: looming regression. The d is shaky, but they're good on 152 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 2: the defensive glass. They've been a great road team in 153 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 2: league player they shot forty one percent from three on 154 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 2: the road. Sutton is a stud. He's just a go 155 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: to guy that can get you a bucket whenever you 156 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 2: need it. So I don't know. I think as the 157 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 2: one seed, I don't think Omaha has get enough respect 158 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 2: Saint Thomas. They are great, well balanced offense, elite spacing 159 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 2: as you mentioned, great shot makers, but the defense is shaky. 160 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 2: They can't rebound, they still lacks some size and athleticism, 161 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 2: and do I really trust their offense away from home? 162 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: At plus two seventy, I can't get there. And mention 163 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 2: South Dakota State, I'm not there At plus two twenty. 164 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 2: Ostro cluffs a monster down love he's the best player 165 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 2: in the league. But this team is not good on 166 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 2: the road. You mentioned they lost LARTs and they are 167 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 2: great rebounders, but they're probably gonna lose the turnover battle, 168 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 2: and there they have a super inexperienced backcourt, just like 169 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 2: a bunch of freshmen, which is why I think their 170 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 2: numbers aren't as good on the road, and you know 171 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 2: they didn't finish the season strong three forty fourth momentum 172 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 2: for Hazlo Metrics, they were the sixth best offense in 173 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 2: the league in road games, the best at home, and 174 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 2: there are defenses much worse away from home as well. 175 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 2: They give up a ton of three, so they can 176 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 2: just get they they can't stay in front of anyone, 177 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 2: so they just compact defense, and then they could get 178 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 2: shot out of the gym. They split with North Dakota 179 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 2: for what it's worth going down the line, North Dakota 180 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 2: State at plus two twenty. You mentioned it, but did 181 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 2: what we didn't mention is Jackson Mooney, Who's the six' ten. 182 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 2: Unicorn you, go you look back over the past twenty 183 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 2: five years in college, basketball you're not going to find 184 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 2: a guy that's six' ten or taller with his assist 185 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 2: rate and his three points made, per game, complete unicorn, 186 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 2: great passer, great vision can do, it all and then 187 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 2: there's just three point shooters all. Around him he missed 188 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 2: the final two games with a. WRIST injury i don't 189 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 2: know if what his. Status is i'm assuming it was 190 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 2: like precautionary and it'll, be fine but maybe. He's not 191 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 2: that's something. Worth noting and they were the league's best. 192 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 2: Road team omahawa is the. Second best part of that 193 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 2: is because they shot forty one percent, from three and 194 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 2: they shoot threes at the highest rate in, the country 195 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 2: and that's kind of what. THEY shoot, i mean it's 196 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: a top it's very rare when you see it's team 197 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: top five in the country in three point a tenth 198 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 2: rate and top five in three. Point makes their defense is, non, 199 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 2: existent though for what. It's Worth south dakota they want 200 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 2: to play. Super fast they don't turn, it over get to. 201 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: The line it's on chaud of fours turners, on defense 202 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 2: defend the three well but. Nothing else teams can crush 203 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 2: them on the offensive glass and at. The Rim north 204 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 2: dakota they want to get to, the rim but they're. 205 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: Inefficient there they have some wings who can, go off 206 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: but the defense is. Unspeakably bad they had one league 207 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 2: win away, from home and that Was at denver when 208 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,599 Speaker 2: the pilots. Were without they were reeling Them about craig and. 209 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 2: Their Bigs north dakota's decent on, the glass and Then MENTIONED. 210 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 2: Denver umkc they're twenty nine to one is the, eight 211 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 2: SEED which i can't. Get TO but i think part 212 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: of that is they were very unlucky, all year like they, 213 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,719 Speaker 2: just won they lost so many. Close games but their 214 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 2: offense is really bad Outside of brown and then just, 215 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 2: offensive rebounding they're just a really. PHYSICAL team i think 216 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 2: they missed, cop, offensively yes like they just needed someone 217 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 2: else to help. Them out but their defense is the 218 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 2: best in the league for what it's where they're oh 219 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 2: and eight in the road and they got blown Out 220 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: by omaha on, both meetings which. Isn't great And Then 221 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 2: oral roberts is. JUST bad i mean McBride and more good, 222 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 2: offensive players but there's not much there and they'll shoot 223 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 2: a ton, of threes get to the line, a ton 224 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 2: they won't get. Any stops oh and eight on. The 225 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 2: road there's something About this omaha team, This year like 226 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 2: you saw that they beat up trash cans and after. 227 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: Games and lives are great around. 228 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 2: That, team yeah and they're the one seed plus five. 229 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 2: POINT fifty i took A little omaha EVEN though i 230 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 2: wasn't a believer in them, all year which means they're 231 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 2: gonna lose Uh To kansas city and just, a grinder 232 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: but they're one of the more physical teams in. The 233 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 2: league And then i've sprinkled just some couch Change. On 234 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: denver what are your final? 235 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: THOUGHTS here i respect doing the little couch. Change, THERE 236 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: yeah i Would say omaha is maybe strong for betting 237 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: value with the price. They're at and again we're not 238 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: huge Believers In North. Kota state they're just really, high 239 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: variants and so maybe they'd be somebody that could give 240 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 1: a power conference team a fight IN The ncaa tournament 241 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: if they got super hot, in three but in, this 242 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: event not a huge fan of them in our in our. 243 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 2: Conference team with no defense and then a favor like. 244 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: No sense in the conference tournament. Pool stuck omaha is 245 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: probably not the pick if they're the FOURTH best ods 246 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: but only the one seed uh that the one we 247 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: kind of dabble in that are, Helping run so not 248 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: as much. Value there, but yeah from a, BETTING standpoint 249 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: i Think the omaha thing. Makes sense they've been much 250 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: better in. League play if you take out the non. 251 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: Conference performance they're one of the top two teams in, 252 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: this conference the top Two since, february first so they're 253 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: playing well GOING in i think it does. Make sense 254 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: they're given the given how well, they're playing and the 255 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: injury is Potentially To North dakota State And South. 256 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 2: Dakota, state yeah injury is definitely. Worth noting, all right 257 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 2: let's move on TO the. Nec tournament this will be 258 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 2: played all eight of nine teams. MAKE it i don't 259 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 2: UNDERSTAND the neec Because mercy hurst was, not Eligible but. 260 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 2: Lemoyne is but like they changed their rules for a 261 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,239 Speaker 2: third year in, a row so like it was prospective, 262 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 2: not retrospective which Means, that merciers which would have been 263 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 2: like the THREE seeds, i think, is Ineligible but lemoine is. 264 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 2: Not eligible what's That stone? 265 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: Hill too they're in it but can't make. The tournament 266 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: so six of the eight only six of the eight 267 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: can Make The? 268 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 2: Big, dance Correct And Central connecticut state will make the 269 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 2: dance If either lemoyne Or stone hill. Make it it's 270 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 2: this is, campus Sites So central connecticut we'll have home court, 271 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 2: advantage throughout so. To speak if they continue. To win 272 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 2: they have the longest active winning streak in the country. 273 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: At twelve their only losses both were. At home they 274 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 2: Lost to Wagner And long island in. League play they 275 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 2: have a top you know this is this is the 276 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 2: best team. BY far, i mean there's a reason they're 277 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 2: minus two ten to. Win it like the rest of 278 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 2: this league is. Really Bad long island's defense is, very 279 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 2: good but their offense. Is hard they just they want 280 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 2: to they want to win, the game like fifty to, 281 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 2: forty eight which IS what i think They Beat Central. 282 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 2: Connecticut state that might have been the score of like 283 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 2: fifty two to fifty. Or something they just take inefficient mid. 284 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 2: Range shots they just want to, play slow rely on. 285 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: THEIR defense i kind Of Wanted. LONG island I Thought 286 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: Central connecticut state would, be OVERVALUED but i wanted like five, 287 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 2: to one which it's Not After long islands plus. Three 288 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 2: FORTY so I don't i think that this LAST year 289 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 2: i Famously hit wagner. To one i'm. Not there they're 290 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 2: they're worse, this year and you're getting a, worse price 291 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 2: and they're less of a high. AREAS team i mean. 292 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 2: THEIR offense i can't watch. Their offense and they lost 293 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 2: like two keykogs from last. Year's team They lost Allen 294 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 2: and uh. 295 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: The Councils at Savure. 296 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 2: And julian brown are no. Longer there and they didn't really. 297 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 2: Replace them like their offense. IS bad i can't get 298 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 2: There with wagner unspeakingly, BAD offense. I can't i can't. 299 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 2: Watch them they'll press, the zone they're. Good rebounders they they'll. 300 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 2: Play slow that's the high arrance is like they'll try 301 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 2: to grind the. Game down but they have the worst 302 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 2: two point offense in the, country arguably, and uh it's 303 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 2: just not The. SAME slasher i can't get There. With 304 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 2: wagner just going through the, Long Shot chicago. State's seven 305 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 2: they're bad. At everything they have the worst offense in. 306 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 2: THE league i would say they're one and eighteen on. 307 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 2: The road they so they're Gonna Play. Long island THEY 308 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: scored i think They Beat on, island somehow but they 309 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 2: scored thirty NINE at lu in the. First, Meeting No 310 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 2: chicago state's not. Winning this that's. 311 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: A weird that's a weird matchup, Because, it's Uh The 312 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: chicago state coach went to be an ASSISTANT, at lu 313 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: so he's and he brought like a couple, of PLAYERS 314 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: and i THINK one lau guy Transferred To. Chicago state 315 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: it's this weird kind of intermixing of those. Two teams, 316 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: BUT yeah lau now has the good coach and is. 317 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: MUCH better i Could See chicago state scoring like forty 318 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: five points in. That, Game Yeah. 319 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 2: Chicago state we're oddly Almost Beat saint Francis, on saturday 320 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 2: even though they benched EVERYBODY like i assume they were just, 321 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: resting everybody but a bunch of their kids. Didn't play 322 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 2: and then it was one of the worst beats of. 323 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 2: The year they were like up the whole game plus 324 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 2: catching EIGHT and i have lost by nine. And overtime 325 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 2: lemoyne is sixty five. To one is the. Eight, seed 326 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 2: yeah they have a. Decent offense this league is like 327 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 2: slow paced. Bad offenses that's what you can just the. 328 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 2: Overarching theme lamoyne has a, decent offense the number two 329 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 2: offense in, league play number one in effective field. Goal 330 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 2: percentage they Did. LOSE karmity i think the notre name 331 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 2: transfer to. An injury they'll be they have the worst 332 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 2: defense in the country in. My opinion they can't. Stop 333 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 2: anybody they'll be massive Dogs At central connecticut. No thanks 334 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 2: so that's the and Then, stone hill so we'll start at. 335 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 2: The bottom so now they want to, play slow they 336 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 2: take away, the three they shoot. THE three a ton 337 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 2: d is bad always like mid FOR an. Anyc team, 338 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 2: THIS year i can't get there with any of the 339 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 2: five through. Eight seeds anything you want to mention there 340 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 2: any Intrigue. 341 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: You, no no this one's really. TOP heavy I Mean 342 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: central connecticut has been the best team. All year there 343 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: are one hundred and ten Spots In ken palm ahead 344 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: of the number two team in. The league like they 345 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: have really separated as part of that twelve game. Winning 346 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: streak they're number one, on offense number two on defense in. 347 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: The league they kind of do it on. Both ends 348 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: it's it's tough to figure out an underdog to really invest, 349 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: in here especially with two of them not really having 350 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: the end game of MAKING the. Ncaa tournament. That HURTS 351 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: and i haven't really been a Believer In fairley dickinson all. 352 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: Year either that's kind of the one team you didn't 353 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: touch on. As much but they might have the, best 354 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 1: player the best scorer in the League In, terrence brown 355 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: but they don't have anything really beyond him offensively. And 356 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: defensively it's not like a. Lockdown unit so not much 357 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: intrigue In. The knights The famous cinderella from two. Years 358 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: ago this, ONE man i have a hard time backing 359 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: Anybody But. Central connecticut they're just that, far ahead and 360 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: where their odds, are at maybe you don't want to. 361 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 1: Lay it maybe you want to parlay them with a 362 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 1: favorite in, another conference but that would certainly be my 363 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:39,959 Speaker 1: lean Yet. 364 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 2: METCHE longa I. Mean. St francis they have the best 365 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 2: two point offense in the League with Cranford. And vineta 366 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 2: but it's interesting that they got They play wagner in the. 367 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 2: First meeting they got Swept, by wagner but each by 368 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 2: two IN but i think both were, in overtime where 369 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 2: one was in overtime and the other one was. In 370 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 2: regulation they played, TWO overtimes i, know That but wagner 371 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 2: went both. By two it's not a great Matchup For 372 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 2: saint Francis Because saint francis is bad versus, the press 373 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 2: and they're bad against the mid range three hundred and 374 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 2: fifty third in, the Country while wagner presses and that's 375 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 2: all they do is shoot mid range jumpers top twenty 376 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 2: and mid range of tenth. Th eight so not a 377 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,239 Speaker 2: great Matchup For. Saint francis just as far as if 378 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 2: you're looking at first ROUND, matchups fdu You mentioned they're 379 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 2: kind of one of the exceptions in that they want to. 380 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 2: Play fast they do have some three point variants, in 381 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 2: THEM but, I agree i'm not a BELIEVER. IN fdu 382 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 2: i can't get there WITH lu i wanted five. TO 383 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 2: one i just can't trust. Their offense, SO yeah i 384 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 2: think this is a chalky year FOR the NEC and 385 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 2: i Hope it's central kind of good state because just 386 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 2: for the viewing pleasure of, the tournament because they're the 387 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 2: only team that could at least THERE was i was 388 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 2: listening TO the i was watching the End Of Central 389 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 2: Connecticut state Wagner. ON saturday i was watching the end of. 390 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 2: That game by, The Way. Central connecticut i'm convinced they, 391 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 2: they covered they, dunked it but the horn. Went off 392 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 2: they were up. Like six the horn went off like 393 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 2: when the balls on, his hand but THE clock i. 394 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 2: WENT back i watched as. The punch no one gave. 395 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 2: A ship THIS was i was one of four people. 396 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 2: Watching this the, announcer said no one will want To 397 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 2: See Central connecticut state when the bracket. Comes out I'm 398 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 2: sure florida will be okay With Getting Central. Conneicut state but. 399 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 2: They did they Like pushed providence They Wonted, saint joe's 400 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 2: so this team has. Some juice they have a top, 401 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 2: Under Defense jordan jones is a good. Point guard the 402 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 2: rest of this league is just bad or Just has 403 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 2: they're completely there's like they have one one side of 404 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 2: the ball is. 405 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: Completely flawed Anybody But central connecticut will be in a 406 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: playing game Like a sixtec playing game that they're the 407 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: only team can get above. 408 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 2: That level so official pick is. Chalk here i'm Going 409 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 2: With central. 410 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: State, yep also and that's that's also PROBABLY who i, 411 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:07,479 Speaker 1: would bet even at. 412 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 2: The, prices yeah let me See WHAT i'm i. Make 413 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 2: them are there any injuries of? NOTE here i don't. 414 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: Think so there's another. Little note it's like a core 415 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: that's been together for a. Few years sellers brought them 416 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: in a bunch of younger guys and they're all pretty 417 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: familiar with, each OTHER which i think is another kind of. 418 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: ENCOURAGING things a bunch of number seniors team that can 419 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 1: kind of build to this final pinnacle of their college 420 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: careers is potentially winning. The, conference, no yeah not. 421 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 2: WITH them i met with anyone Else Or. CHICAGO state 422 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 2: i think they just, rested guys not that, they MATTER 423 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 2: but i was just going to adjust. Any, teams yeah 424 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 2: my fairs the minus one, ninety FIVE so i can't 425 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 2: REALLY bet bnus. Two TEN but i can't. BET it 426 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 2: i can't make a case for anything. Anyone, ELSE sadly 427 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 2: i don't See a wagner, this YEAR but i Might 428 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 2: bet Wagner Against, saint francis, all right for what. It's 429 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 2: worth wagner won the. First two you're hear a lot 430 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 2: it's hard to beat a team, three times which. Isn't 431 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 2: true it's actually it's easier to beat a team three 432 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 2: times than it is too not and the reason. Is 433 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 2: simple there is some like there's nuance. To it don't 434 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 2: just follow all. This blindly like sometimes if you, look 435 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 2: back team lost, two meetings maybe there, was injuries, you 436 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 2: know maybe there was just really bad three point. Shooting 437 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 2: lot but many times it's just because it's probably a 438 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 2: bad matchup for, A REASON like i Just mentioned Wagner And. 439 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 2: Saint Francis saint francis bad against, the press bad against, 440 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 2: Mid range like there's a reason you probably lost the first. 441 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 2: Two games do you have any thoughts there on that 442 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 2: it's hard to beat a team? Three times that we'll hear. A, Bunch. 443 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 1: YEAH no i don't buy it. At ALL and i 444 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: mean that's the kind of thing you'd have to, adjust 445 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: for like the likelihood they beat them a, third time 446 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: like the win probability, Of it and that's always taken 447 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: out a, factory, like oh the team only wins seventy percent. 448 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: Third time, it's, like, well yeah should they be winning 449 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: eighty percent or should they be winning? Sixty percent what's 450 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: the actual? Adjustment factor SO it's i don't put really 451 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,479 Speaker 1: any stock, into it none. With you it's more typically 452 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: indicative of a bad matchup for a plain easily better 453 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: team than it is like a due factor for the 454 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: team that lost the. 455 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 2: First, two yeah no one ever adjusted because, like Obviously 456 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 2: whoever duke plays the, third time there's gonna beat them 457 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 2: a third time because there's so Much better and then 458 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 2: so there's a lot of nuance. In there that's just 459 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 2: one of those things that's been said for like. Thirty 460 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 2: years it's someone just said it once ON, like Espn 461 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 2: Like dick bytel probably said it in nineteen, ninety eight 462 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 2: and then it's just caught on and then everyone just, 463 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 2: says it, all right let's move To The Big. South 464 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 2: tournament which Is In, Johnson. City tennis why is This In, Johnson. 465 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: CITY tennessee i have no idea whether they're going to 466 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: a socung Campus Area, johnson City Where East tennessee state 467 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: is and playing their tournament last year was At. High 468 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: point they're like brand new ARENA and i think a pretty, 469 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: good crowd and now they mix. It up i'm not entirely. 470 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 2: SURE why i guess this helps the rest of the 471 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 2: league because high points the, best team so if it 472 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 2: was That high, point again they'd be even a. Bigger 473 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 2: favorite but they're a. Significant favorite they are minus two 474 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 2: fifty to win, this league so even a bigger Favorite 475 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 2: Than Central. Connecticut state their offense is unbelievable, by some 476 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 2: by a LOT of i think a lot of. THE analytics, 477 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 2: i say at top twenty five, Offense nationally is, That, Right, jim. 478 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, twenty fifth m top Thirty. At bartark it's. 479 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 2: Crazy crazy. They're deep their backcourt, is Great although Tomari 480 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 2: and williams like they have a lot of guys like 481 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 2: they like even who's their other, Point Guard, jeff no 482 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 2: but the other their their back Up like Petaway. 483 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: Or Pettiford the. Kansas transfer he can go. 484 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 2: Off like on. Certain days like they have a lot. 485 00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 2: Of Depth but williams is A good he's not, great 486 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 2: defensively but he's a. Great offense he missed the past. 487 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 2: Couple games i'm not do you know? HIS status, i 488 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 2: don't and it. 489 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: Does matter, it's tough but they are like it's hard 490 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: emer size how, Deep there like there's a chance there 491 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: if you took out their four, best players they'd still 492 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 1: be the, best player the best team in the league 493 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: because they have a ton. OF depth, I mean williams 494 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,199 Speaker 1: was a double digit Scorer At gardner webb in this 495 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: conference two, years ago Went TO texas A and m 496 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: for two years and then came back and it's really. 497 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: Good again BUT so i want him out there for 498 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: the peak version of. High point but they're, still heavy 499 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: heavy favorite even. 500 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 2: Without, him yeah their offense is. Just incredible they have 501 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 2: so many, shot makers so many guys can get to. 502 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 2: The rim they play drop on Defense With, bodo bodo 503 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 2: who anchors that although THEIR defense i think will probably 504 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 2: it will be an interesting team if they make the 505 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 2: tournament because their defense, has holes like they they foul 506 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 2: too much and don't, force turnovers which is always a. 507 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 2: Troubling combination so their defense, is gettable and you saw 508 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 2: that in the two meetings against the two Seed Unc 509 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 2: Asheville wild wild games between those two, unc astrills d is. 510 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 2: Really poor when they're not, forcing turnovers. They'll press they, 511 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 2: also foul they'll get crushed on. The Offensive glass marsh 512 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 2: is a good. Point guard he shredded high point. Both times, 513 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 2: and uh you know you have a Guy like ay 514 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 2: who can shoot the Lights Out. Solomon salad they do, 515 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 2: lack depth which is maybe troubling for, this format and 516 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 2: they have to make up for the rebound deficit with. 517 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 2: Turnover margin but they have. A lot they can have 518 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 2: a lot of guys who can excel in the, mid 519 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 2: range which is what you need to do against tigh. 520 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 2: Points defense so they put up their. Their games they 521 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 2: there was like one o three ninety nine and one 522 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 2: oh three and. 523 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: Like, one yeah so like three of the four teams 524 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: hit one hundred in their in their. 525 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 2: Two, matchups yeah so unc ashwell nine. To one you have. 526 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 2: A lot you have three teams that are in this 527 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 2: nine to. One Range, Unc asheville winthrop they're nine. To 528 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 2: one they're the. Three. Seed fast they want to. Go 529 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 2: fast You know Talford and harrison are good. Players there 530 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 2: they want To get we just talked about beating three teams. 531 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 2: Three times how it's easier than some people might lead you. 532 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 2: To believe They play longwood in the. First round i'm 533 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 2: hoping that's close to. A pick i, don't know But 534 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 2: win They're crushed longwood twice in. Both meetings and the 535 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 2: Reason why winthrop second NEAR proximity a. Tenth three they 536 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 2: want to get to the rim at. All costs longwood 537 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 2: three and sixty fourth in near proximity. Percentage defense they're 538 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 2: the worst two point defense in. The country these two 539 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 2: teams also headed in complete. Opposite Directions long wood was 540 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 2: benefited from some three point shooting up for. A while 541 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 2: winter finished eight. And one they're only lost To. High 542 00:27:55,480 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 2: point longwood finished two, and seven, and like if you Look, 543 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 2: At winter winter puts the run ninety four percentile Transition 544 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 2: ary longwood transition d. Is HORRENDOUS and i think with 545 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 2: their got unlucky with their three point defense during League 546 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 2: playing longwood, STILL overall i think got a. Bit lucky 547 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 2: the only thing that gives me pause is It's fucking 548 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 2: longwood in this in, this tournament AND they i think 549 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 2: They beat winthrop of two of the last, three years 550 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 2: and they've won it two of the past. Three years 551 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 2: alters usually just gets them playing their best basketball in. 552 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 2: This format SO let's, i think but before again. Your 553 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 2: thoughts radford's the. Four seed they're also around nine. To, 554 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 2: ONE analytically i think they're the second. Best team Macklin 555 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 2: and moss good players on. The wings they are the Opposite, 556 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 2: of winthrop and they want to play. Super slow they're 557 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 2: shooting like forty percent from Three since. January first i'm 558 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 2: not sure that's. Really sustainable it's worth noting most of 559 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 2: that damage is done. At home they do not miss 560 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 2: from three. AT home i think they shot forty two 561 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 2: and a half percent from three of home and. League 562 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 2: play not going to get the play at home in. This, 563 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 2: format uh they get do get to the line of 564 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 2: ton and they don't. Miss there they're good on, the 565 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 2: offensive rebound in the offensive, rebounding department not strong scoring at, the, 566 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 2: rim compact really, compact defense throwing some some zone. In 567 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 2: there they Want to they want to play, really slow grind, 568 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 2: teams down the Opposite, of winthrop which wants to. 569 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: Play fast they've got one of the injury concerns where 570 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: we don't know if it Was restaurant macklin sat there, Last, 571 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: game yeah and good luck Finding Big big South. Inside 572 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: intel but their their peak version certainly has him, in 573 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: there so. 574 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 2: KEEP on i would assume, he rested but we don't know. 575 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 2: For sure so let's we both Agree That high point 576 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 2: is clearly the. Best team but among those before we 577 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 2: get to the, bottom HALF among u N, c a 578 00:29:55,400 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 2: which has, Defensive issues Winthrop, and radford which one, of 579 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 2: them they're all in the, same price all right around nine. 580 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 2: To one if you were to make a case for 581 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 2: any one of, those three who would. 582 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: It be i'll make a Case. FOR winthrop i took 583 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: a little nine and a half, to one just because 584 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: of how well they played down. The stretch they did Split, 585 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: with ashville the, two seed so right there on their 586 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: side of, the bracket the each team won, at home Similar. 587 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: ISH martins i don't think there's any like, major matchup 588 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: like insurmountable. Differences there but they've got a lot a 589 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: lot of veterans guys that came back for their. FIFTH 590 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: year i think that matters a. Little Bit and ashville 591 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: last year they were like all Built Around drew pember 592 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: a giant monster in, the paint one of the best 593 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: mid major players in the, entire country and now they 594 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: don't really, have that and they lost for their. FINAL 595 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: seven i think teams started to figure them out a, 596 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: little bit AND so i definitely prefer winterp there because 597 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: of the trajectories of the two And. THEN radford i 598 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: just don't want a team on the side of the 599 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: bracket Of. High Point if i'm going to take a 600 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: shot at similar odds among all three, of them give 601 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: me one of the ones on the opposite side of 602 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,719 Speaker 1: the Bracket in Winter, for ashville just to avoid having 603 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: to play them in. The semis, SO yeah I winterp 604 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: is is definitely my my choice of. 605 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 2: THOSE three i agree. WITH you i think that's the look. 606 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 2: As Well winterrop for what, it's worth, THEY played, I 607 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 2: mean i think they got crushed BY if i call 608 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 2: let me look. 609 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: It, up yeah they lost both Games high. 610 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 2: Point By high point in. 611 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: Both meetings asheville's got a better chance At, high POINT 612 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: but I think winter is Better, than asheville which is is, 613 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: a weird, you know kind of rock paper scissors. 614 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 2: Type, thing YEAH and i do like the first round Matchup, 615 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 2: against longwood who also. Is REELING so I Like, winter's path, 616 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 2: and yeah the problem Is Man high point's really good 617 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 2: and they don't really match up. That WELL but, I 618 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 2: agree i Think it's winter out. Of that out of 619 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 2: those three in a bo them of, this bracket You 620 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 2: have presbyterian forty six. To one they're playing better. Of 621 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 2: late they play. Super slow they neither win the. Turnover 622 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 2: battle they're bad on, the boards they can't defend at 623 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 2: the rims, their offenses it's kind of ugly to watch 624 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 2: a lot of isolation. Mid range don't press the slow 625 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 2: teams down, force turnovers so you got to be able 626 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 2: to handle. Their Pressure then longwood already. Mentioned them they 627 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 2: they're d like it's it's so Bad, it's brollyeah. 628 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: They did Not, replace apolla the big man who Went To. 629 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: Michigan state they just didn't get. Any fives and now 630 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: it's so easy to score at. 631 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 2: The, rim YEAH so I can't i can't. Trust Them 632 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 2: charleston southern one hundred and thirty, to one they infamously 633 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 2: or famously Won, at miami shows you How bad miami was. 634 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 2: This year they Won at miami earlier, this year they, 635 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 2: their point their, point GUARD. R. J johnson is? 636 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: He hurt it, Keeps, saying yeah he was kind of 637 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: banged up late in. The, YEAR yeah i think that 638 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: was a, full unrest like he played terrible the game 639 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: before it only played. TWENTY minutes i think it was a. 640 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: Rest thing but but. 641 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 2: He also might be dealing with. An injury and they 642 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 2: do not have a backup. Point guard their backup point guard, 643 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 2: is bad so the drop off is. Very big the 644 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 2: problem is they will they take away. The three they'll 645 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 2: get destroyed in the mid Range, by ashville who will happily. 646 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 2: LIVE there i can't Get behind Charleston sou they're making a. 647 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 2: Run Here. Gardner webb they want, To play they're the. 648 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 2: Running bulldogs they want to, play fast but they're kind 649 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 2: of ineffinihent. Doing so they. Can't shoot they're good on 650 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 2: the glass getting to. The line they want to attack. 651 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 2: The rim they they'll mix in some zone. On defense 652 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 2: the Well boyle gueno didn't play the. Last two he's important. 653 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 2: TO them i think he's their second. Best player but 654 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 2: their d, is, bad bad and they have major turn. 655 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 2: Of issues their point guard play, is very. VERY shaky 656 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 2: i expected More of gardner web, this year, but yeah 657 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,399 Speaker 2: they're in the playing game for, a reason and They're 658 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 2: playing south Kind, of upstate Who mister dean is fun. 659 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 2: To watch IT'S all i can really say positively For. 660 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,240 Speaker 2: The sparts they you're the worst team in the league 661 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,280 Speaker 2: and they play. Super fast it's not a. Good combination 662 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 2: not many positive things to Say about south Count. Of 663 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 2: upstate so let's. Start anything let's start at the top of. 664 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,919 Speaker 2: That bottom if Anything on presbyterian or we already Mentioned 665 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 2: long when Anything, on presbyterian it's probably. 666 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 1: Better, Late yeah i'm kind of intrigued. By them it's 667 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: you do increase the variants a little bit by it with, 668 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: their Pace and radford plays super, slow too so you're 669 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: going to get this crawling game where it's probably going 670 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: to be tough for either team to. Really separate that 671 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: gives me. Some intrigue they did split meetings. This year 672 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: both teams actually lost, at HOME so i don't know 673 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: what that really. TELLS you i think it just tells 674 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: you they're pretty. Evenly matched sixty three possessions and fifty, 675 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,760 Speaker 1: eight possessions but both teams scored efficiently because their defenses 676 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 1: aren't all. THAT strong i think that one's kind of 677 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: a coin flip and really another reason To avoid radford 678 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: at the odds that they're at with kind of, a 679 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,919 Speaker 1: tough slow down matchup to start and then high point. 680 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: On deck that's Not one i'd like to Look. AT 681 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 1: presbyteria i think it'd be a decent first, ROUND bet. 682 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 2: I agree and then In The, charleston southern no. Thank 683 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 2: you and then the eight to Nine Game, gardner webb that's. 684 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 2: The upstate do you have anything to say on either of? 685 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,240 Speaker 1: THESE teams i could maybe buy the underdog There because 686 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: dean's probably gonna be the best player on. The floor 687 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,879 Speaker 1: but there is a little risk TOO because i think 688 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 1: heavy rumors he may end up in the portal and 689 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: is he a half foot out the? DOOR already i. 690 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 1: Don't Know And gardner webb, has talent like they brought 691 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: a couple of guys back this offseason that. Were Boomerangs 692 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 1: jermaine mann Went to Vanderbilt In georgia state and came 693 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,760 Speaker 1: Back To gardner webb where. He started And Then, Anthony 694 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: Seldon wayne seldon's Brother of, kansas fame had Gone to 695 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,280 Speaker 1: rice for a year and came Back To. Gardner, webs 696 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: like there's talent on. That roster it just has not. 697 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: Come TOGETHER so i would be more inclined To Back 698 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: gardner webb kind of re elevating to the preseason expectations 699 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:13,919 Speaker 1: we had. 700 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 2: For him they turned it over, so, much man and 701 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 2: they really struggled to end. The year, but yeah there's 702 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 2: there's some truth to that that you get to these 703 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 2: conference tournaments revert back to, you know. You can't you 704 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 2: could do worse things than reverting back to. Preseason priors 705 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 2: if you're looking to find some long shots in, This format. 706 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 1: Say either of those teams is going to lose by 707 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: thirty plus To. 708 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 2: High, POINT yeah I Mean usc. Upstate would i'm Surprised 709 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 2: high point didn't get to one hundred. 710 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: On them they didn't, have them but those games were 711 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,800 Speaker 1: actually only within, ten SURPRISINGLY. 712 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 2: And I Believe gardner webb. Got, destroyed Yeah They gardner 713 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 2: WEBB lost i point ninety six and ninety to. Sixty, 714 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 2: seven yeah that's so. Not. Great Yeah The, RADFORD presbyterian 715 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,879 Speaker 2: I mean radford has good numbers against, the press which 716 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 2: they're going to See, against presbyterian but They're not they 717 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 2: can't score at, the rim which Is where presbyterians like. 718 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 2: Most vulnerable, so yeah and by The way radford does 719 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,439 Speaker 2: not match up well With, High POINT so i Can't 720 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,879 Speaker 2: see radford Beating, high point which is one REASON why 721 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 2: i just crossed. Them off another reason why they're not 722 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 2: only in the same half As. HIGH point i just 723 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 2: don't like the matchup, with them and they. Could Lose 724 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 2: the Presbyterian mentioned Winter beat longwood both times destroyed them 725 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 2: and In Unc Asheville Charleston southern national one by three, 726 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 2: and eight so those games were actually fairly close in 727 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 2: the regular season official, pick here are you going chalk With? High? 728 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 1: Point, Yep unfortunately i'm that'd be the most fun FOR the. Ncaa, 729 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,040 Speaker 1: TOURNAMENT anyways. 730 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,800 Speaker 2: I AGREE and i think if you're looking, TO sprinkle 731 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 2: i think that the look Is. Is, winthrop YEAH so i. 732 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 1: ACTUALLY did i did the double DIP if i have 733 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 1: a little bit of A sprinkle WINTERROP and i also 734 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 1: Parlayed high Point In Central connecticut state to go back TO. 735 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: The neec so a couple couple. 736 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 2: Favorites, there okay like it, All right let's finish up WITH, 737 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 2: the ovc which is this league is? A mess it 738 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 2: looks this is so funny looking AT. The ovc how 739 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 2: different it looks now than it used to. 740 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 1: Come along the way FROM the i can't Wait for 741 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: Belmat Versus murray state Title game. Saturday night that was 742 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: pretty much inevitable that that's not what we. 743 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 2: Get, anymore yeah this league looks much Different this it 744 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 2: will still be Played. In evansville top eight, made It 745 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 2: linden wood, made it but they're ineligible for. The tournament 746 00:38:55,239 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 2: so if they win THIS then semo. Would go and 747 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 2: if you're if you want to know about, this league that, 748 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 2: inefficient offense bad ugly offense across. The, board, yeah like 749 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,879 Speaker 2: it's just. IT'S ugly i think what let's see. They 750 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 2: are let me pull upkembom thirty first and effective field 751 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 2: goal percentage, twenty ninth in efficiency twenty fifth and. Turnover 752 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 2: percentage you're just going to see lots of ugly, free, 753 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 2: throws turnover, ugly offense a lot of inefficient mid. Range, 754 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 2: offense like it's. It's gross, any thoughts high level thoughts ON, 755 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 2: the obc. 756 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: It was kind of a league that game. TO game 757 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: i mostly stopped betting for the late parts of the 758 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:54,359 Speaker 1: season and just because it was pretty tough to evaluate 759 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: who was actually. Still trying like the end of, The 760 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: Year eastern illinois was eliminated from postseason, coming competition and 761 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 1: they rattled off like four straight wins against teams that 762 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,879 Speaker 1: still had stuff to. Play for, IT'S like I don't 763 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: i don't know how to, Assess that so that was 764 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: tough to. FIGURE out, I mean simo won this two 765 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 1: years Ago With brad corn at, the helm and then 766 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 1: they were terrible, last year. Like horrific offensively bounced right 767 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,360 Speaker 1: back this year and won the regular season by. Multiple 768 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 1: games so he's at least got the winning pedigree. In 769 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: IT but i don't think they're the most talented team 770 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: and they don't have the, Best player like those are 771 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,720 Speaker 1: two other teams IN, the vc which makes, This Tricky 772 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 1: like siue has the, Best Player little rocks the, most 773 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:41,399 Speaker 1: athletic probably the most. Talented team it's a tough one to, Crack. 774 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 1: Here sucky i'm curious what direction, You're, LOOKING. 775 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 2: Yeah I mean simo plus one sixty, No, thanks no 776 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 2: there's no value in. That number they'll play drop, on 777 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 2: defense that, inefficient offense like they're just going to shoot 778 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 2: a lot of. BAD shots i can't, trust THEM s 779 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 2: I u e plus two, forty again no thank you 780 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 2: can't get there at, that price the decent rim defense you're. 781 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 2: Betting on you're betting on the tailors here, on offense 782 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 2: And Then. Little rock You Mentioned. Little Rock little rock 783 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 2: is the best defense in. The league their defense is 784 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 2: really good With gat Kek and wilkinson leading. The way 785 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 2: but their offense is you guys are doing Three man 786 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,879 Speaker 2: weave is doing a. Live showed you Were Touting. LITTLE rock, 787 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 2: I said i cannot bet on. That offense that offense 788 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 2: is a. Tough, watch yeah. 789 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 1: It was it was built TO Have kk robinson running 790 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 1: the show and he's missed the entire year, with injury 791 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: and they just didn't have another like, point guard playmaker 792 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 1: creator to stir. The drink and it's it's showed quick 793 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:56,879 Speaker 1: mention on. THE prices i don't know if we said, 794 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 1: this Yet but simo AND S I u e are 795 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: In the, semis already which is part of why they have. 796 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,839 Speaker 2: That value but double buys to but double bys To, the. 797 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,319 Speaker 1: Semis yep And Then little Rock And tennessee state are 798 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 1: sitting there in. The quarters but still don't love that 799 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 1: that price, on either ESPECIALLY. ON semo i don't love that. Price. 800 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 2: Yep uh the one that intrigues me the most Is 801 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:26,399 Speaker 2: Probably tennessee state close to five. TO one i mean 802 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 2: maybe it's mainly just. THE price, i mean they're number 803 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 2: they're the best team in the Leagues in january First 804 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 2: for Torviick Is brandon. Weston back that's THAT'S what i 805 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 2: want to be questionable for like. Three WEEKS everything i, 806 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 2: SEE it i search his name every before, every Game 807 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 2: Says brandon weston, Is questionable like he has he been 808 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 2: waiting to come back for this because. 809 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,919 Speaker 1: He matters he might he might be the best player 810 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 1: in the league when, He's healthy like he's completely above 811 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 1: talent wise what the rest of this. League is so if, 812 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 1: he plays it's a. 813 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 2: Major swing and they're number one and torvik and haven't 814 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,280 Speaker 2: had him? How long how many games has? He? Missed 815 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,839 Speaker 2: uh eight and he's? Missed, Eight yeah. 816 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 1: I'm, seven sorry, excuse me. 817 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 2: Bad counting so and they're still number they're they're the 818 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 2: best Team since. JANUARY first I know simo got hot down, 819 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 2: the stretch but, You Know tennessee state There, WITH weston 820 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,720 Speaker 2: i think they're the most. Talented team they play, super, 821 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,839 Speaker 2: fast fast they're great on the, offensive glass they get 822 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 2: to the line, a ton they do turn it over way. 823 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,360 Speaker 2: Too much that's the one THING that i am concerned 824 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 2: About With, Tennessee state like they just give away. The 825 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 2: ball but a lot of teams do that in. This 826 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 2: league SO if i can Find out, Weston's playing i'm, definitely, 827 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 2: betting well hopefully you get ahead ahead of. The mark 828 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:45,400 Speaker 2: i'm Definitely Betting tennessee state at plus. FOR eighty i 829 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 2: just can't get there on the PRICES of smo AND 830 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 2: S I, U E and i can't Trust The little 831 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 2: rock offense at a worse Price Than. Tennessee state? Is 832 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 2: that so what are your Thoughts Of, Tennessee, state Like if, 833 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 2: weston plays they're they're, the, look. 834 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 1: Yeah they're they're super. HIGH upside i would be a 835 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 1: little INTRIGUED by syu we having to win one less 836 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 1: Game if. Weston's out so maybe my betting is like 837 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 1: contingent in this conference and we're recording this On, a 838 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 1: monday those two teams won't play till like At Least 839 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,880 Speaker 1: tennessee State, plays thursday sy you eat it would then 840 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 1: Play them friday IN. The semis so kind of have 841 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,360 Speaker 1: to wait and see, on that but that would that 842 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 1: would be the major swing. For Me if weston's. In, there, 843 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,880 Speaker 1: Yes Agreed tennessee state is. The value, if NOT then 844 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 1: I would i would. 845 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 2: Look, elsewhere yeah so if you see that come across in, 846 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 2: the App because i'll try To GET although i don't 847 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 2: KNOW if i know, anyone that, LET'S see. 848 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,719 Speaker 1: I Don't Think penny collins would. TELL me i talked 849 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 1: to him once two off. SEASONS ago i DON'T think 850 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:45,840 Speaker 1: i have quite the inside scoop. 851 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,759 Speaker 2: With him He's also i'm just looking as you as you. 852 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,359 Speaker 1: Say this an odd Thing With tennessee state is they 853 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,239 Speaker 1: get to the line of ton and follow, a ton 854 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 1: so it's a lot of like free, throw contests and 855 00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,200 Speaker 1: they're not that good at, the line which is a 856 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 1: weird combination. To Have but weston's their best re. Throw shooter, 857 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 1: so again if, he's in it really changes. Their. 858 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 2: Outlook, yep yeah if, you see if you see it. 859 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 2: Come in they Haven't been collins has not been good in. 860 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 2: This tournament i'm looking back at. Their results have they 861 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,399 Speaker 2: ever made? A run they've never made one? Single, Run, 862 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:20,440 Speaker 2: no no they. HAVE not i mean Their last they've 863 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 2: had some bad teams. 864 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 1: And he's he's done okay in. The portal so the 865 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 1: talent has kind of, been there but just postseason tournament 866 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 1: setting has not really agreed. With them and maybe it's because, 867 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 1: you know they want to get up and down and 868 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 1: this league is a lot more defensive the fastest out of, 869 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,399 Speaker 1: the league so might might just not play up and. That's, 870 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,719 Speaker 1: setting yeah that does worry me a bit. 871 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 2: As well and then you have like the other, thing 872 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:48,799 Speaker 2: is which is is it's worth noting That if weston does, 873 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,239 Speaker 2: come back they're going to play as you Mentioned, on 874 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 2: thursday and they'll play the winner Of Linden wood morehead like. 875 00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,439 Speaker 2: It is it would be like his first. Game back 876 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 2: you gotta assimilate them into. The offense is The, rusts 877 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 2: like then you're gonna you've missed all this time and 878 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 2: then you got to play three games in? Three days is? 879 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 2: There fatigue so that's worth mentioning. As well looking at 880 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,719 Speaker 2: the bottom of the bottom half of, this league You Have. 881 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:22,279 Speaker 2: Tennessee tech just they DON'T really. I can't i can't 882 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,280 Speaker 2: Really Figure tennessee. TECH out, i mean here's an. Interesting 883 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 2: Thing tennessee tech is fifty five to One And tennessee 884 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 2: martin the, eight seed is thirty, to ONE which i. 885 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,840 Speaker 2: Don't understand they play each other in the, First Round 886 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:42,440 Speaker 2: Tennessee tennessee tech swept them and both games went. To overtime, 887 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 2: but like that's a coin. FLIP game i don't why 888 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,840 Speaker 2: is Why Is tennessee martin half the Prices Of. 889 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 1: Tennessee, tech yeah that one doesn't really add up just 890 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,360 Speaker 1: going through like, The numbers so it's going to be 891 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,799 Speaker 1: basically a pick. Them game they should be almost the, 892 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 1: same odds not. BASICALLY double i was. 893 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,799 Speaker 2: Like double triple. Checking INJURY so i, was LIKE so 894 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,279 Speaker 2: i don't Understand That tennessee tech Will Played. Tennessee MARTIN as, 895 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,040 Speaker 2: I Mentioned tennessee tech swept. Both meetings they both went. 896 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 2: To Overtime tennessee tech shoot a bunch, of threes they 897 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,400 Speaker 2: take away, the three they get no. Offensive Rebounds tennessee 898 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 2: martin they also shoot a ton, of threes they give up. 899 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 2: A bunch they're great on, the Offensive glass martin. 900 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 1: Too much martin's best guards set out in the last game. Good, 901 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,319 Speaker 1: yard yeah and so maybe that should actually tilted More, 902 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 1: towards tech not not the other. 903 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 2: Way Around tennessee martin was. Super UNLUCKY like i, just 904 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,920 Speaker 2: mentioned they lost two games in overtime To. Ten tech 905 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 2: they were one in five and overtime. This YEAR but 906 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 2: i don't have a strong take on who's winning, that 907 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 2: game so nothing there. For Me then linden would Is 908 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,920 Speaker 2: h i'm sure they'll be motivated here. To play they 909 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,399 Speaker 2: want to, play fast but they might be the worst 910 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,719 Speaker 2: shooting team in. The country for, my money. They are 911 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,960 Speaker 2: they cannot shoot, At all horrible half, court offense good half, 912 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 2: court defense transition d but more had won't. Exploit that 913 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 2: who they play more had really stumbled down. The stretch 914 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,319 Speaker 2: although they had some bad three point shooting lock THEY 915 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 2: shot i think twenty six percent from Three in february 916 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,839 Speaker 2: and gave up forty two, percent shooting which was kind. 917 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,799 Speaker 2: Of overdue they're not a great. Shooting team they play, 918 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,640 Speaker 2: super slow can't score at. The rim it's all inefficient 919 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:23,799 Speaker 2: mid range shocker story of. This league any thoughts on 920 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 2: the bottom four teams IN. 921 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,279 Speaker 1: THE ovc i spent like twenty minutes trying to Figure 922 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,799 Speaker 1: out morehead five, days ago like before. The weekend, it's 923 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 1: like why have they lost eight in? A row They 924 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 1: Got deontay, miles back The big xavier center that has 925 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,600 Speaker 1: started for them for two, years now and it. Didn't 926 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,720 Speaker 1: help like the three games he, came back they still 927 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,239 Speaker 1: didn't really. Do much in last game of, the year 928 00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,360 Speaker 1: they set out a couple starters maybe banged, up injuries 929 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 1: and they finally win AGAIN Against. UT martin i can't 930 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,200 Speaker 1: figure out morehead stayed At All they've it's been quite 931 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,799 Speaker 1: a fall from last Year with Spradland to i'm Not 932 00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 1: sure maddox has the same juice on, the Sideline so 933 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:01,439 Speaker 1: i'm staying far away. 934 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,120 Speaker 2: From them any thoughts On linden wood do you if 935 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:04,759 Speaker 2: any takes On. 936 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 1: LINDEN wood i watched them a little earlier in, the 937 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,919 Speaker 1: season sometime in the, non conference and, it's, just yeah 938 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 1: like guys putting their. Head down can we get to? 939 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 1: The rim Bass and foutrell just want to get to 940 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,919 Speaker 1: the line because the, shooting is like, you said really 941 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 1: really poor from beyond. The arc not A team i'm overly, interested. 942 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 1: IN though i just don't think the talent levels all 943 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:26,879 Speaker 1: the way where it needs. To be and obviously they've 944 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,839 Speaker 1: got a tough path starting in the first round having 945 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,600 Speaker 1: to win. Four, games yeah. 946 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,800 Speaker 2: For what, it's Worth linden wood would have morehead split 947 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 2: their meetings is want each one on each other's. Home, 948 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,239 Speaker 2: COURT yeah i can't get there on any of these 949 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 2: teams in the. Bottom half, TO me i haven't had 950 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 2: a great feel for this league, all YEAR so i 951 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 2: don't have a. Strong take, LAST year I. Loved morehead 952 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,279 Speaker 2: This year i'll probably Throw Someone tennessee STATE if i 953 00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 2: can Find out weston, is playing and that's probably like, 954 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,279 Speaker 2: contest wise that's probably be my pick as the. Three 955 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:04,880 Speaker 2: seed what are your final? 956 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 1: Thoughts here I'LL Pick sau EDWARDSVILLE because i think as 957 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,799 Speaker 1: LONG as i don't know About west, and Yet Ray 958 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,239 Speaker 1: sean taylor will probably be the best player in the 959 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,799 Speaker 1: tournament and he can really. Go off he's had TWO 960 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,879 Speaker 1: different acl TEARS, at saue so it's kind of nice 961 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,880 Speaker 1: to see him back fully, healthy THERE and i like 962 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 1: the idea of him going out with a swan song 963 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 1: of taking care of business in the postseason And Getting 964 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,799 Speaker 1: brian baroni to the TO the. Ncaa Tournament so I'll. 965 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 1: PICK slue I Wish eastern illinois had made it because 966 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,279 Speaker 1: they were actually like playing awesome down. The stretch they 967 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 1: won eight or seven of the. Last twelve they won 968 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 1: four in a row to, end It, Beating Morehead. Little 969 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,920 Speaker 1: rock They beat Simo after, simo clinch but it, was, 970 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 1: like wow Okay e stern has actually figured it out 971 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,200 Speaker 1: and now unfortunately. They're done, but yeah official PICK. 972 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 2: Syu, E Yeah rashon taylor, is awesome but don't don't 973 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,640 Speaker 2: See What brian. Taylor too he can get he can, 974 00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,880 Speaker 2: get hot he can go FOR like i, don't know 975 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,040 Speaker 2: he's if, he's on he can go for twenty twenty, 976 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:07,239 Speaker 2: five yep on. A night, so yeah, all right that'll 977 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:13,839 Speaker 2: finish UP The Ovc Quick. Summary summit we'll just do one. 978 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,359 Speaker 2: Sentence each we'll go league by. League summit couch Change, 979 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 2: ON denver I think omaha's value is the one catching 980 00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,160 Speaker 2: close to six. To One North Dakota State South dakota 981 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:29,400 Speaker 2: state have. INJURY issues I think omaha's. The value Sprinkle 982 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 2: on denver has been really good down, the stretch rare 983 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:37,080 Speaker 2: good defense for this league. Relatively, speaking, Yeah yeah omaha's. 984 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,720 Speaker 1: The value the Right bet my Pick Is. SAINT thomas 985 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 1: i think they do the enact of the chaos theory 986 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,360 Speaker 1: of the team that's ineligible wins the Tournament and omaha. 987 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 2: Backs, in yeah someone's Gonna. BET omaha i hope that 988 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:54,239 Speaker 2: they Don't Play saint thomas in. The final it would 989 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,920 Speaker 2: be terrible because they're already be. Locked UP any c. 990 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 2: THAT'S chalky i can't get to the rest Of The 991 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,640 Speaker 2: Central connecticut state is so much better than the rest of. 992 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 2: THE league i think it's priced close, to right Maybe 993 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,319 Speaker 2: like i'm the one minus one ninety one minus one, 994 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,680 Speaker 2: ninety FIVE so i probably Won't bet Central, Con, say 995 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 2: jim you, Parlayed, them, yeah SO but i can't get 996 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,759 Speaker 2: there on any of these. LONG shots i will look 997 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,959 Speaker 2: at The bet wagner in the first Round Against. Saint 998 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,280 Speaker 2: francis final thoughts here. 999 00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,440 Speaker 1: For, you yeah nothing beyond what. You're SAYING just i 1000 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,719 Speaker 1: don't trust any of the bottom. Half Teams central connecticut 1001 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,240 Speaker 1: has far and away. Separated themselves this can be a crazy, 1002 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,799 Speaker 1: league sometimes case In point wagner. Last Year but I'm 1003 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,439 Speaker 1: gonna i'm gonna trust the, one seed the, Best Team, 1004 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:39,279 Speaker 1: Central Connecticut. 1005 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:43,480 Speaker 2: BIG south i think we Both Agree high point to deserve, 1006 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:47,480 Speaker 2: it FAVORITE but i think the value here Is. On 1007 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,880 Speaker 2: winthrop and then we just finished up WITH. The ovc 1008 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,319 Speaker 2: jim Gonna. Pick siue i'm gonna take a little Flyer On, 1009 00:52:55,360 --> 00:53:00,480 Speaker 2: tennessee state but definitely watching the. Injuries there and then 1010 00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 2: we'll look To bet Winthrop, against longwood hopefully get a 1011 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:09,040 Speaker 2: good price there in the. First round it's a. Great matchup, 1012 00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:16,080 Speaker 2: all right that'll do it. For us. Quick programming note what? 1013 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 2: We have what you guys did, Three yesterday we did 1014 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:24,160 Speaker 2: The a sun, last week knocked out, four today so 1015 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 2: we have. Twenty, four well there's only thirty one conferences, 1016 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 2: this year right at, thirty one so we got twenty three. 1017 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:37,560 Speaker 2: To go we'll cover them starting tomorrow Through Next. Tuesday 1018 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,640 Speaker 2: sunday i'll be doing three separate episodes with the Guys From. 1019 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,040 Speaker 2: Three men we will cover a lot of the. Power 1020 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:47,920 Speaker 2: leagues will, be, Me Myself, mike Calabrese And. Greg GADeL 1021 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,040 Speaker 2: tomorrow we'll be knocking out four. More leagues we're going 1022 00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,839 Speaker 2: to Be Doing. WEST coast, I, Mean jim i'll get 1023 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,799 Speaker 2: your one sentence thoughts On These. WEST coast i never Bet. 1024 00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,719 Speaker 2: THE west i think. ONE year i try to take 1025 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,239 Speaker 2: a flow like this is the Dumbest thing i've. 1026 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:02,320 Speaker 1: Ever, done no. 1027 00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,080 Speaker 2: Just k zack is minus, one thirty which is basically 1028 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,160 Speaker 2: just like What goo zaga is going to be in 1029 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,239 Speaker 2: the In the Championship Against. Saint, mary's, like. 1030 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,520 Speaker 1: YEAH which i was Just Like san francisco is going to, 1031 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,960 Speaker 1: challenge him But Then san Francisco or gonzaga went to 1032 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:19,400 Speaker 1: they did it At The chase center instead of, on 1033 00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,640 Speaker 1: campus but they spanked them to end. The SEASON so 1034 00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,839 Speaker 1: I think conzago will be back in the title. Game, 1035 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:24,880 Speaker 1: THERE yeah. 1036 00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:26,640 Speaker 2: I Think It's. KENZAGER sam i think my PICK that 1037 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,640 Speaker 2: I think gonzaga is. Gonna Win but i'm not RUNNING 1038 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:33,120 Speaker 2: the batmanus. One thirty, But Yeah san francisco running like 1039 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,120 Speaker 2: the biggest s Threats Of san francisco who was running 1040 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,399 Speaker 2: like a god from three until they Last. Played tampas 1041 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:41,200 Speaker 2: teams were shooting seventeen Percent, in february twenty two Percent since, 1042 00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,440 Speaker 2: january first And Then santa clair was on this godlike 1043 00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:46,080 Speaker 2: run from three for. 1044 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:46,840 Speaker 1: A while. 1045 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,279 Speaker 2: They don't match up Well With. SAINT mary's I Think 1046 00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,000 Speaker 2: saint mary's went on like a thirty to nothing run, 1047 00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,759 Speaker 2: against them uh, this year so we' probably Gonna get 1048 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 2: That's The, chalkies league but, we'll uh we'll talk. About 1049 00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,120 Speaker 2: That The valley right could win it or lose. To 1050 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,600 Speaker 2: anybody don't go to Overtime. Versus drake we'll talk about 1051 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 2: the soakon AND the cia do you have any hot 1052 00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:09,280 Speaker 2: takes on any of THOSE. 1053 00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:13,320 Speaker 1: Three cia is. PARODY central i don't have a SUPER 1054 00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,040 Speaker 1: strong i think THE price i would have picked you And, 1055 00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,200 Speaker 1: see willington but the price was pretty. Strongly THERE and 1056 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 1: I like bradley IN. THE nbc i Just draked tempo 1057 00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 1: leaves them a little bit too exposed to a, potential 1058 00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,839 Speaker 1: Upset and bradley Won, at DRAKE so i think they're 1059 00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,760 Speaker 1: capable and super veteran team coaches won that. EVENT before 1060 00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:30,840 Speaker 1: I like Bradley At. 1061 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,840 Speaker 2: Arch madness, if, yeah well At. Least drake it's To 1062 00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:38,400 Speaker 2: Avoid missouri state on there, half back. All right that'll 1063 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,319 Speaker 2: do it. For us Thanks to jim for. Joining me 1064 00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,160 Speaker 2: thanks to Our producer david on the. Back end, most importantly 1065 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:43,879 Speaker 2: thanks to all of you for. 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