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Speaker 1: Hello Sunshine.

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Speaker 2: What's up, Sunny d It's Monday, March twenty fifth. I'm

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Speaker 2: Simone Boys and.

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Speaker 1: I'm Danielle Robe.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the very first episode of the bright Side,

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Speaker 3: a brand new daily podcast from Hello Sunshine. We're here

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Speaker 3: to bring you a daily dose of culture, conversation, and

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Speaker 3: inspiration Monday through Friday.

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Speaker 2: It's so real, this is happening, Danielle. You know what,

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Speaker 2: I've told a few people that I was working on

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Speaker 2: this show, and I can't tell you how many people

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Speaker 2: were like, we need this right now, We need a

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Speaker 2: show like this right now, you.

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Speaker 1: Day right, Yes, completely.

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Speaker 2: I've always been someone who fights for good news, even

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Speaker 2: though I've covered a lot of hard news in my

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Speaker 2: career as a journalist for over a decade now, and

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Speaker 2: you're often meeting folks when they're at their lowest point

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Speaker 2: in their lives, and you're asking for permission to tell

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Speaker 2: their stories. But I mean, listen, the work of truth

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Speaker 2: tellers is more important than ever before. But we also

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Speaker 2: need storyteller who remind us that joy is a superpower,

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Speaker 2: that it's a form of resistance, which is why we're

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Speaker 2: so excited to bring you this show. Danielle. You're a

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Speaker 2: reporter too, and we've actually worked at a few of

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Speaker 2: the same places.

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Speaker 3: This is such a funny story because I've done hard news,

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Speaker 3: I've done entertainment news, and we had the first We

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Speaker 3: had the same first job, but not at the same time,

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Speaker 3: so we missed each other. But we've had a lot

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Speaker 3: of mutual friends who have over the years said, you know,

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Speaker 3: you should really meet Simone, or you should meet Danielle.

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Speaker 3: I feel like you guys would like each other, and

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Speaker 3: we just never did.

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Speaker 2: I know. Okay, shout out to Jocelyn. She is one

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Speaker 2: of those friends that Danielle is talking about who was

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Speaker 2: trying to connect us for the longest time. And then

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Speaker 2: we both got selected to be hosts of this show,

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Speaker 2: and it was just it feels kismet, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It does feel kismet.

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Speaker 3: And it felt like the universe like if we weren't

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Speaker 3: going to make plans because we're both like busy girls,

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Speaker 3: if we weren't going to make it happen, the universe

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Speaker 3: was So it's kind of cool.

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Speaker 2: So you're going to get to see our bright side

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Speaker 2: bestie story play out in real time on this show.

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Speaker 1: Oh I love that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, I have my cappuccino with a splash of

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Speaker 3: almond milk. Ready you have your oat milk ice latte.

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Speaker 3: Are you ready to get into it? Let's go So

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Speaker 3: you always remember your first your first kiss, your first concert,

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Speaker 3: your first pet. It's our first show today, so we

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Speaker 3: wanted to bring it in with a conversation worth remembering.

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Speaker 3: Our guest today shines so bright, and she's harnessed all

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Speaker 3: of that artistry and sparkle and glow to illuminate women's stories.

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Speaker 3: From her iconic roles to her powerhouse production work, she's

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Speaker 3: dedicated to making things that make girls excited to be women.

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Speaker 3: Reese Witherspoon is here with us.

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Speaker 2: We could have talked to Reese for hours. We cannot

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Speaker 2: wait for you to hear our conversation. But first, Sunny d,

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Speaker 2: let's catch up.

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Speaker 1: Simm what happened this weekend? I missed you.

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Speaker 2: I missed you too. Okay, So, my son turned four

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Speaker 2: this weekend. We had a birthday party for him. And

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Speaker 2: every time one of my kids has a birthday, I

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Speaker 2: just get so sentimental and also I feel myself grieving

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Speaker 2: the passage of time. I am coming out of this

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Speaker 2: period of motherhood that has been so challenging. Damn, I

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Speaker 2: don't want to cry on my first show. Crying on

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Speaker 1: Wait, this is wild because you don't cry.

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Speaker 2: I know I never cry.

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Speaker 1: This is good to know your kids make you cry.

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Speaker 2: And now everybody's going to think I cry all the

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Speaker 2: time because it's our first show and I'm crying. But

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Speaker 2: I'm actually not crying yet.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: I am coming out of a period of motherhood that

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Speaker 2: They're both toddlers, and it's just been really grueling. Lots

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Speaker 2: of defiance and pushback and just every day feels like

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Speaker 2: like I'm in this beautiful sweet spot of motherhood where

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Speaker 2: I am relishing every moment and savoring every moment and

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Speaker 2: grateful for everything. And there's nothing like a birthday a

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Speaker 1: That was really sweet.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you're celebrating, because it's hard when every day

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Planning birthday parties for kids these days, it's kind

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Speaker 2: I just saw this post online about reminiscing about parties

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Speaker 2: from the eighties and nineties, and moms were talking about

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Speaker 2: what makes those parties or what made those parties so

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Speaker 2: see how simple they were. It was like, we had

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Speaker 1: I had like a dance party.

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Speaker 3: And nowadays I look on social media and there's like

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Speaker 2: Like a huge concert. It's like balloon arches and everything. Right,

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Speaker 2: I'm all about simplifying it because you have to reduce

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Speaker 2: your stress as the party planner, as the host, because

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Speaker 2: if you don't, then you don't get to actually soak

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Speaker 2: up the time with your kids. And it's all about

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Speaker 2: really tried to just strip everything down. We had a

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Speaker 2: All his little friends came. This was his first time

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Speaker 1: What'd you guys see Shrek. Oh that's so fun. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that is such a good memory for him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, even if it's just memory and photos, it's very cute.

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Speaker 2: I think he loved it. I think he had a

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Speaker 2: great time. Danielle, how was your weekend?

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Speaker 3: My weekend was good. I was on an airplane. I

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Speaker 3: flew to Atlanta for my very first time. I've been

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Speaker 2: Get out. You've never been to Atlanta before?

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Speaker 1: Never? Wow, and I've always wanted to go.

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Speaker 3: I went to interview a real life Disney princess get out, yep.

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Speaker 3: I interviewed Hallie Bailey and a bunch of influencers Jackie, Aina,

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Speaker 2: This is so cool.

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Speaker 1: It was really fun.

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Speaker 3: It was for Airy Fest and Airy stopped filtering their

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so it was all about being a real girl,

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Speaker 2: Amazing. Did you filter your photos from the event? Thank

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Speaker 2: you for asking. So, I'm actually so curious how you

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Speaker 3: It was fun, especially if I wasn't wearing makeup. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: And so I made the choice to stop filtering photos

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Speaker 3: but I do believe in beauty autonomy, so whatever works

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't really use photo filters. I think that

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Speaker 2: it's kind of jarring for me. I think in the

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Speaker 2: same way that you're saying you didn't recognize your own face.

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Speaker 2: It just I don't know, it doesn't look like me.

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Speaker 2: I will admit, though I don't know if I should

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Speaker 2: admit this on the show. We might have to cut

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Speaker 2: this out. The one thing that I do to my

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Speaker 1: If is that a face tune thing.

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Speaker 2: It's a face tune thing. Yeah, if my teeth are

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Speaker 1: Have white teeth, and you like have white teeth.

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Speaker 2: I'm actually getting them whiten today. I'm kind of obsessed

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Speaker 2: if it makes you feel good, do you do you boo?

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Speaker 2: All right? We are a podcast that centers joy, so

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Speaker 2: what's the state of joy in the world today. Well,

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Speaker 2: Gallup recently released it's twenty twenty four World Happiness Report,

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Speaker 2: and this year it illuminated some findings on happiness in

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Speaker 2: different stages of life. Get this, Danielle, Young Americans are

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Speaker 2: actually less happy than older Americans. Yeah, duh, that doesn't

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Speaker 1: Not at all. It's tough out here for young Americans.

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Speaker 2: All right, So here are the details. Americans under thirty

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Speaker 2: are feeling worse about their lives, but Americans over sixty

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Speaker 2: are feeling the opposite. Also, the United States of America

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Speaker 2: has fallen out of the top twenty for the first

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Speaker 2: time since the World Happiness Report was first published in

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Speaker 2: talking about. So that's interesting that you say it's not

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Speaker 2: surprising that America under thirty are feeling less than happy.

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Speaker 2: I feel like there's a lot to be happy about

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Speaker 3: That's a good point. There is a lot to be

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Speaker 3: happy about. But I actually have a theory on this.

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Speaker 2: Tell me.

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Speaker 3: One thing you'll learn is that I have a lot

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Speaker 3: of theories. Some founded, some unfounded. I call this the

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Speaker 3: discrepancy theory. So there was a Harvard psychologist, There is one.

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Speaker 3: There is a Harvard psychologist named Stephen Pinker. He wrote

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Speaker 3: this book called Enlightenment Now, and he said that we

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Speaker 3: may be inundated with horrific stories of school shootings and

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Speaker 3: natural disasters, but studies show that it's actually the best

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Speaker 3: even more humane. Like not to bore you with stats,

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Speaker 3: but the global average IQ rises three points every decade.

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Speaker 3: Private prejudice is declining, which is great, especially with youth

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Speaker 1: But here's where it gets interesting.

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Speaker 3: At the same time, our phone have inundated us with information,

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Speaker 3: and I think it's too much for the human brain

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Speaker 1: We're supposed to be so happy and yet we're not.

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Speaker 3: I also think that there's a lot of pressure as

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Speaker 3: they feel so much pressure from their parents, from the school,

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Speaker 3: from themselves to like get into a great college, and

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Speaker 3: it's so much harder now than it used to be.

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Speaker 1: Just think, there's like a lot the word is pressure. Really.

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Speaker 2: I also think that this points to the fact that

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Speaker 2: age brings wisdom and perhaps more contentment.

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Speaker 1: Yo, I think you're onto something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I just think as you get older, like we've

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Speaker 3: Stay with us, Welcome back to the bright Side. We're

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the bright Side.

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Speaker 4: Hi guys, I'm so happy to be on the podcast,

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Speaker 3: I feel like that's what Hello Sunshine has become like.

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Speaker 2: and also something that's outside of yourself. And I know

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Speaker 2: that your grandparents really instilled in you the importance of

443
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Speaker 2: having a sense of purpose from a young age. So

444
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Speaker 2: can you just tell us about that a little bit

445
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Speaker 2: more like, how do you view your purpose during that

446
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Speaker 2: chapter of your career when you were primarily a performer,

447
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Speaker 2: and then how did it shift for you once you

448
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Speaker 2: started this company.

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Speaker 4: Purpose is so important. I think we all as human

450
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,159
Speaker 4: beings are trying to figure out the why of our life.

451
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Speaker 4: And even if you've had success as a mom or

452
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Speaker 4: success as a business person, you're always looking for a

453
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Speaker 4: deeper meaning. So for me, it goes back to my

454
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Speaker 4: childhood growing up with my grandma, who was a teacher,

455
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Speaker 4: and she just loved books and was always encouraging me

456
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,399
Speaker 4: to read, taught me to read, and she would do

457
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,479
Speaker 4: all the voices when I was little, and it just

458
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,719
Speaker 4: ignited in me a passion for learning and reading and

459
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 4: it made stories come to life for me because she

460
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Speaker 4: was so imaginative and such a great teacher.

461
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Speaker 5: And my grandfather was just service service, service. He was

462
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Speaker 5: in the military.

463
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Speaker 4: He was just about the Boys and Girls Club of Nashville,

464
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Speaker 4: and he was always doing something every day to serve

465
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Speaker 4: his community, and it gave him great purpose. He woke

466
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Speaker 4: up every day with this feeling of people need me.

467
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Speaker 4: I am wanted, I am valued, So I'm kind of

468
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Speaker 4: a blend of the two of them. My grandfather was

469
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Speaker 4: super extroverted and my grandmother was very introverted, but they

470
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Speaker 4: raised me because my parents were both working all the

471
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Speaker 4: time in the military, and so I really felt their

472
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Speaker 4: influence as I walked through the world. And I also,

473
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Speaker 4: I think it's important to say too, all of our

474
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 4: grandmothers walked through the world in a way where they

475
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Speaker 4: didn't have the opportunities we have. They weren't allowed to

476
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 4: have credit cards, they couldn't have alone on a small business.

477
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Speaker 4: So I think about that every time I've like accomplished

478
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Speaker 4: something or made a big move in business, I always

479
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Speaker 4: think about the women that came before me that I

480
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 4: am standing on their shoulders, and how lucky we are

481
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Speaker 4: to be in this this time, at this time, on

482
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Speaker 4: this planet, in this place.

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Speaker 5: It's really fortunate.

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Speaker 3: Well, you're now the biggest producer in the world of

485
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Speaker 3: women's stories. How have you seen the industry change since starting? Hello, Sunshine,

486
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Speaker 3: The business has really changed.

487
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Speaker 4: When I started in twenty eleven, we only had a

488
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Speaker 4: few studios and they were buying really from movies and

489
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 4: television was a very siloed off business. Since then, with

490
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 4: the emergence of streaming, there's so many more options, there's

491
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 4: so many more buyers. You're seeing more female screenwriters, you're

492
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Speaker 4: seeing more female directors.

493
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Speaker 5: Still not enough, but you're seeing a lot more.

494
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Speaker 4: Representation too across you know, women of color, women who

495
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Speaker 4: are differently abled, and I think you're getting better storytelling.

496
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Speaker 4: And also there's this thing too that you could hide from.

497
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Speaker 4: Before there was social media, before there was streaming, they

498
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Speaker 4: would say, well, the audience doesn't like that, and the

499
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Speaker 4: audience was sort of this. We're like, where is the

500
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 4: audience and who are they? But now you can push

501
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Speaker 4: a button on Instagram or you know, Facebook and find

502
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Speaker 4: out exactly who the audience is. And they do like

503
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Speaker 4: women's storytelling. And if you go on Netflix and you

504
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 4: go into a meeting with them, I'm like, oh, yeah,

505
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 4: women are our best customers because they mark it too.

506
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 4: They'll if they love something, and you know this about

507
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 4: our girlfriends. It's like, oh my god, have you seen

508
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 4: this show?

509
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 5: Have you watched that? Have you tried this lip bomb?

510
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 5: Have you? They will sell your products for you.

511
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 4: So if you get a woman who's a fan of something,

512
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 4: or she understands the purpose behind something and she.

513
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Speaker 5: Gets excited about it. It's so good, it's so great.

514
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Speaker 4: So women are finally coming into their power as consumers,

515
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 4: as makers, and you know, we hold a lot of

516
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Speaker 4: control and power that we don't even know.

517
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Speaker 2: Reese, you brought up friendships, and I know that your

518
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 2: friendships are so dear to you and so important to you.

519
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Speaker 2: When I think about my friendships with women, I also

520
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Speaker 2: think about how they've been cheerleaders for me professionally. So

521
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Speaker 2: how have your female friendships impacted the way that you

522
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Speaker 2: show up in the work that you do?

523
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Speaker 4: Oh wow, I mean it's so critical. I don't need

524
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 4: I couldn't. Yeah, there's times where I couldn't even get

525
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Speaker 4: out of bed and my girlfriends would come over to

526
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Speaker 4: my house, like when I was going through a bad

527
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Speaker 4: break app or it have like a really disappointing day

528
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Speaker 4: as a parent, or day week or you know, divorce,

529
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 4: or it doesn't matter. My friends, I don't have a lot.

530
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Speaker 4: I'm like quality over quantity.

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Speaker 2: But that's the only way to be right, I mean,

532
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Speaker 2: especially as you get older. I think I think.

533
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Speaker 4: So, But I mean everybody has different You see girls

534
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 4: that have so many friends and I'm like, and they

535
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Speaker 4: manage it somehow, It's just not my personality type.

536
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Speaker 3: Well, you are running an empire, So I mean, I

537
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 3: am so lucky.

538
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Speaker 4: I have the best friends in the world. They just

539
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 4: show up for me during hard times and it's mutual.

540
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Speaker 4: I always say to my kids too, to have a

541
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Speaker 4: good friend, you have to be a good friend. I

542
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 4: also think about it in terms of like a bank account.

543
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 4: Each friendship is a bank account and it's and you

544
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 4: need to review every year. Are there more deposits than

545
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 4: there are withdraws totally or vice versa. There should be

546
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Speaker 4: a balance there, like what are you putting into their

547
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Speaker 4: life and what are they taking?

548
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Speaker 2: Like that we're actually having a friendship coach on an

549
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 2: upcoming episode, and it was such an eye opening conversation.

550
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 2: One of the main things that she said that women

551
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 2: look for in friendships is that reciprocity that you just

552
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 2: talked about. Is making sure that I'm pouring into you

553
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 2: you're pouring into me.

554
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so.

555
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 4: And if you're sitting with somebody who's or how about

556
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 4: these people who call you and talk about their problems

557
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 4: all the time, but then like someone goes on with

558
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 4: you and they're nowhere to be found.

559
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Speaker 2: Right now, or no, down with those people. If so,

560
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 2: don't ask a question about your life. That's a big

561
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Speaker 2: one for me too. If they only talk about themselves

562
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Speaker 2: and don't ask a question about you and what's going

563
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Speaker 2: on with you?

564
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, that's just what's that narcissism?

565
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 5: That's just I don't even know.

566
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 4: There's so many different names, we name so many things now,

567
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 4: but it's just like not okay, how about just that

568
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 4: not okay person?

569
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Speaker 5: They can't show up for me, like bye, we're done.

570
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Speaker 3: I know that for every win, there's five or ten

571
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Speaker 3: losses that nobody sees.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about some the hard stuff.

573
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Speaker 3: Was there a time that sticks out to you where

574
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Speaker 3: something really didn't go as planned?

575
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 5: Yeah?

576
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 4: I mean definitely after Big Little Lies won all these

577
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 4: awards and it was such a successful show, and then

578
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 4: going to meet the account and then the account was like,

579
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Speaker 4: you know, you can cover the employee's salaries and you

580
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 4: can cover the rent, but there's literally nothing left over

581
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 4: to hire, to grow, to expand.

582
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Speaker 5: And I thought, okay, I worked that hard.

583
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 4: I identified this material, we did so well, it won

584
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Speaker 4: eight Emmys.

585
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 5: What is going on?

586
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 4: And that's when I had to go, Okay, I'm not

587
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 4: doing this right. I gotta step back from it. Sometimes

588
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 4: you need to step away and look at things from

589
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Speaker 4: a different perspective.

590
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Speaker 5: And that's when I brought in.

591
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Speaker 4: People to help me build a business plan because I

592
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 4: didn't go to business school, Like I don't you know

593
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 4: people say ROI and DTC and ibadah, and I was like, I.

594
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Speaker 2: Don't know what you're talking about.

595
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 4: I don't we're seeing right now like they talk about

596
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 4: it like you're supposed to know, and I didn't know.

597
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 4: And Sarah Harden came into my life and was so

598
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 4: patient with me. And I also think it's important to

599
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 4: ask questions and not feel stupid. And it's also an

600
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 4: intimidation factor. If you walk in and you're trying to

601
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 4: build a business and you're like new, people are trying

602
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 4: to intimidate you by using a bunch of acronyms that

603
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 4: you don't understand. So if you have the courage to say,

604
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 4: I'm so sorry, do you mind explaining exactly what you

605
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 4: mean by that. Sarah was always so patient with me

606
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Speaker 4: and she helped me learn And it was about like

607
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 4: a year and a half of going to Sarah Harden's

608
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 4: business school.

609
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Speaker 1: That's the way more fun than a college campus.

610
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Speaker 3: It was in line with that I think about girls

611
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 3: trying and failing because I think we let little boys fail,

612
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Speaker 3: which no, are you most thankful for?

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Speaker 4: Oh gosh, so many As my friend says, you know,

614
00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 4: rejection is God's protection, and it's so true time you

615
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 4: feel so devastated. So it was probably a lot of

616
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 4: times where I was trying to raise money for the

617
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 4: business and they said no, which was probably you know,

618
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 4: a lot, but I only needed one yes, and I

619
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 4: got the one yes, and that started the ball rolling.

620
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Speaker 4: And I'll be forever grateful to those people for taking

621
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 4: a chance on me. But I looked them in the

622
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 4: eye and I said, you will not regret it. I

623
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 4: will give you a return on your investment, or I'll

624
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 4: just I'll fall over try.

625
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 5: You won't see me not hustling to make it happen.

626
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:36,239
Speaker 4: So because everything doesn't always work out perfectly, but you know,

627
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 4: I know that I will always try my hardest. So

628
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 4: that was like a big no in my life. That

629
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 4: affected me and also employees.

630
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Speaker 5: That you've got to have this. You've got to get

631
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 5: that person or it's not going to work out. Yeah,

632
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 5: it's Okay.

633
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 4: If they take another job or you end up not

634
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 4: working with them, it's okay. It's really you're going to

635
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 4: do better things, or different things, or something else is

636
00:29:58,920 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 4: meant for you.

637
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Speaker 2: Reese, I get really fired up when I talk about

638
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 2: the intersection of ambition and motherhood. So can we go

639
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: there for just a brief second? Yes, Before Hello Sunshine,

640
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 2: before the book Club, before all the Emmys. You were

641
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 2: a mother first. You became a mother at a very

642
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 2: young age, in your early twenties. How did motherhood at

643
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: such an early age prepare your heart for the work

644
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 2: that you're doing now.

645
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 4: It's pivotal the fact that I was a young mom.

646
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 4: It's such a foundational piece of who I am because

647
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 4: when I was twenty three years old.

648
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Speaker 5: I had my daughter and.

649
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Speaker 4: I wasn't expecting to be a mom at twenty three.

650
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 4: It was a decision that I made with my partner

651
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 4: at the time, and it just changed me so profoundly,

652
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 4: and I didn't like who I was very much. I

653
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 4: was looking in the mirror at that point and who

654
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 4: I had walked through the world as I was super competitive.

655
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Speaker 4: I was an actress for hire at the time, and

656
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,040
Speaker 4: I was trying so hard to get jobs, and I

657
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 4: had this scarcity mindset that if another girl got the job,

658
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 4: that's going to be less for me. And I started

659
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 4: reading so many books. I watched Oprah so much, and

660
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,479
Speaker 4: I started instead of just watching Oprah going Okay, I'm

661
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 4: gonna read the books that she recommends on self love,

662
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Speaker 4: self help, positivity. And I read so many books, like

663
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Speaker 4: one that was really important for me, with Soul Stories

664
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Speaker 4: by Gary Zukoff. It was all about having integrity as

665
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Speaker 4: a human. And part of that book is about having

666
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Speaker 4: a abundance mindset, not a scarcity mindset, because when you

667
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Speaker 4: live in the fear of scarcity, you believe there isn't

668
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 4: enough for everyone. But when you live in abundance and

669
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Speaker 4: you go now, there's more for me and there's more

670
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Speaker 4: for her, I am so.

671
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Speaker 5: Happy she got that job.

672
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Speaker 4: I am so happy she is doing well because you

673
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Speaker 4: know what, that's going to create abundance for me, It's

674
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Speaker 4: going to create abundance for other women.

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Speaker 5: So that was just one little.

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Speaker 4: Mindset shift that happened for me when I was about

677
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Speaker 4: twenty three or twenty four, and that was about me

678
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 4: trying to change who I was for my daughter, because

679
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Speaker 4: I wanted to be more of an example of someone

680
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 4: I wanted her to want to be. I wanted her

681
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Speaker 4: to look at me and think, my mom's a role model.

682
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Speaker 4: And I wasn't a role model before that. I wasn't

683
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Speaker 4: demonstrating values that I would want my daughter to model.

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Speaker 4: And then I was able once I got that foundation

685
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Speaker 4: under me, and I was like, Okay, my behavior is

686
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:23,719
Speaker 4: going to be the kind of behavior I want her

687
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Speaker 4: to model. Okay, now that I've got that, I'm going

688
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 4: to take that into my work world. I'm going to

689
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Speaker 4: have the behavior in my work world that I want

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Speaker 4: her to model. And I was like, hold on, if

691
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 4: I did that, well, maybe I can kick it up

692
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 4: a notch and do it as a bigger business modeling

693
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Speaker 4: the kind of things I want to see in the world. So,

694
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 4: really becoming a mom at a young age was everything

695
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Speaker 4: for me because I had enough money, I was financially prepared,

696
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Speaker 4: I had a very stable relationship. I had really good

697
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Speaker 4: parents who are protect you know, protecting me and helping me.

698
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Speaker 4: So I want to say that's not the perfect choice

699
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 4: for everybody, but it was the right thing for me.

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Speaker 2: There's just one thing I want to say about that.

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Speaker 2: I think it's so important for young women to hear that,

702
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Speaker 2: because so often we hear that motherhood is going to

703
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Speaker 2: be the death of our career, and it's just it's

704
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Speaker 2: just simply not true. I mean, there are so many

705
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Speaker 2: incredible examples of ambitious lites.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I think so too, and I think we worry

707
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Speaker 4: as women's like I'm none enough in my career. But

708
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Speaker 4: I will say with a caveat right, you know, if

709
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Speaker 4: you're in a good place, there's no perfect time about

710
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Speaker 4: having a baby. I also there's no perfect time, like

711
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 4: what's the day that you want your entire life to change?

712
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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 4: Is that like a Tuesday at three o'clock or is

714
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 4: that like a Saturday at ten am. Your whole life

715
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Speaker 4: is going to change, and it's going to be about

716
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Speaker 4: another human being in the world and raising that human

717
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Speaker 4: to the best of your ability. There's no good time, right,

718
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Speaker 4: but there is timing. That's like, I feel stable in

719
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Speaker 4: my career. I feel stable, I have enough money, I

720
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Speaker 4: have a good supportive network around me, whether there's a

721
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 4: partner there or not a partner there, there's a network

722
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Speaker 4: of help because you do need a lot of help,

723
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Speaker 4: but it isn't prohibitive. I found it as motivating because

724
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Speaker 4: I wanted my daughter to feel inspired. And also my

725
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 4: mom worked, so I feel like if your mom worked,

726
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Speaker 4: I don't know, do y' all think that? Because I

727
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 4: feel like my mom was the example. I was always

728
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 4: going to be like my mom. And my mom was

729
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Speaker 4: a nurse, and so I watched her go to work

730
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Speaker 4: and then she come home tell me all the stories

731
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Speaker 4: of all the babies she took care of all day,

732
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Speaker 4: and I.

733
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Speaker 5: Was like, Oh, I want to walk, I want to like,

734
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Speaker 5: I want to have a job with purpose.

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Speaker 1: Is that what those spaces of joy are for you? Like? Why?

736
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Speaker 3: I feel like the sets you create, the experiences, the

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Speaker 3: shows they center around joy.

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Speaker 1: Why is that important for you?

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I think it's important to set

740
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 4: a tone, Like the way you start things and the

741
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 4: way that you end things is really important. The sort

742
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 4: of rituals around work. You come in and you say

743
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 4: hello to everybody, like Carrie Washington taught me such a

744
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 4: big lesson on our show Little Fires. Everywhere every morning

745
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 4: she goes Happy Monday everybody. It just set a tone

746
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 4: that and I've never seen anybody do that before, but

747
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 4: it was almost like it reminded me of being in

748
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 4: school and the teacher said hello to each kid, but

749
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 4: everybody felt seen and acknowledged or hope everybody had a

750
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 4: great weekend. Let's have a great week. And then at

751
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 4: the end of the day, thank you so much everybody

752
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 4: for a great day. Made such a difference. And as

753
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 4: a leader, I thought that is such a valuable skill

754
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 4: that she just shared with all of us. But for me,

755
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 4: I'm always the person who's like, how can I insert

756
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 4: a little joy into today? So whether that's like bringing

757
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 4: cookies that I brought, or telling everybody joke or trying

758
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 4: to find a way to bring humor into a really

759
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 4: difficult situation, or light you know, sometimes I just say

760
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 4: a lightness. Let's bring a lightness into this because all

761
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 4: is not lost where we're real.

762
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 5: Smart people, We're going to figure it out. That can

763
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 5: just really change any work environment.

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Speaker 2: Sugar is my form of joy as well, Reese. I

765
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 2: want to circle back to something that you just said.

766
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Speaker 2: I mean, we've talked a lot about the hard times

767
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 2: today and how it's not all suns at the top.

768
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 2: So how do you find the bright side when everything

769
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 2: is going wrong?

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00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 4: Well, I take time and space to just breathe, put

771
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 4: away the phone, I walk outside in nature, or I

772
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 4: get with my dog, I snunckle my dog, or I

773
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 4: pet my dog. That's a very relaxing form of therapy

774
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 4: for me. Or I talk to my girlfriends four hundred

775
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,720
Speaker 4: and sixty seven billion times a day. So I'll say

776
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 4: I learned on Simon Sinok's podcast that friends only need

777
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 4: eight minutes eight minutes of your time. So we now

778
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 4: have a code where I just text eight minutes and

779
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 4: then find eight minutes somewhere. They'll say, Okay, in two hours,

780
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 4: I have eight minutes. And you really only need eight

781
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 4: minutes to process something difficult or challenging. So doing that,

782
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 4: that's like a little well I stole it from Simon.

783
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 2: I'm stealing it from you.

784
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 3: That's okay, But women like to share great things, so

785
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 3: we just proved it.

786
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: Okay, we have one last question for you.

787
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 2: That's it.

788
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: That's it. Unless we talk today.

789
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 2: We could talk forever, Reese, We'll do this again soon, Okay.

790
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 3: Narrative plays such a huge role in your life. We

791
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 3: mentioned that Hello, Sunshine's goal or one of them, is

792
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 3: to change the narrative for women, and I think that

793
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 3: you've really been a force in telling your own story

794
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 3: as well. And I used to read your book Whiskey

795
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 3: in a teacup, and I know that you come from

796
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 3: a long story and a story of women. Your grandmother

797
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 3: was a school teacher and she taught you how to read.

798
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 3: What does it mean to be Dorothy Draper's granddaughter?

799
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Speaker 4: Well, I learned from my grandmother a long time ago

800
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 4: that women are the heroes of their own stories. And

801
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 4: I think we all have a story in our lives

802
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 4: of a woman who's overcome incredible aughts, whether it's your aunt,

803
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 4: your sister, your grandma, who either overcame a financial or

804
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 4: personal disaster to make her way in the world or

805
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 4: become the woman she wanted to be.

806
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 5: So that is.

807
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 4: A big, big part of rewriting the narrative women in media,

808
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 4: because women ultimately save themselves. And I think we all

809
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 4: grew up with a lot of stories that partners were

810
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 4: coming to save the day, or romance would make you

811
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 4: a whole just not true. So it's a really big

812
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 4: piece of why we pick the books we pick, why

813
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 4: we make the TV shows we make, the movies we make.

814
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 5: There's always at the end a woman who saves herself.

815
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Speaker 1: Thank you for your time, Rees.

816
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Rees, thank you.

817
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 4: Well, I just want to say, you guys, I am

818
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 4: so excited about this podcast The bright Side. You guys

819
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 4: are giving people a chance to shine a light on

820
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 4: their lives, shine a light on a little advice that

821
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 4: they want to share, and that's what we need, you know.

822
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 4: Thank you for taking the light and now you're taking

823
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 4: it with you and you're going to shine it all

824
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 4: over the world. And it makes me really happy.

825
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: We're really honored. Yeah, that's the word. Thank you for

826
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: sharing it with us.

827
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Speaker 2: Honor privilege. I never imagined that I would get the

828
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Speaker 2: chance to carry this honor and help you a part

829
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Speaker 2: of this legacy. So it's truly an honor.

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00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 5: Well, thank you. I feel it.

831
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Speaker 4: I feel it off of y'all, and I see the

832
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 4: joy that you're having with each other.

833
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 2: We are this is my brightside, Bessie right here. Reese

834
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 2: Witherspoon is an award winning actor, producer, and the founder

835
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Speaker 2: of Hello Sunshine.

836
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Speaker 3: We'll be back with more after the break. So that

837
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 3: was a big first interview, the Queen Bee of the Besties.

838
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Reese, I'm still not over it. She

839
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: is such a personal hero of mine for so many reasons.

840
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 2: But I'll give you one big one. Through the work

841
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 2: that she does to honor female authorship, she is reminding

842
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 2: the world that women contain multitudes and that we need

843
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 2: to tell our stories, that our stories need to be told.

844
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 2: I know how it feels to have to hide your multitudes,

845
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 2: and I'm so grateful that I'm at a place and

846
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 2: that I'm in this space where I don't feel like

847
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: I have to hide my multitudes anymore. Reath shines a

848
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Speaker 2: light on unseen creatives.

849
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Speaker 3: I think that's probably why so much of the language

850
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 3: around Hello, Sunshine and the bright Side is about shining

851
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 3: a light.

852
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: I think that's super intuitive of you.

853
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 3: I liked when she talked about her early years too,

854
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 3: because I felt really aligned with it. When I moved

855
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 3: to La, all I wanted to do was be a

856
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 3: TV host. I just wanted to interview people, and I

857
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 3: was so hungry that I was really just kind of

858
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 3: like self involved, not self involved, but I was trying

859
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 3: to find success for myself. That I didn't realize that

860
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 3: you missed the richness of life when it's all about

861
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 3: what you get instead about what you give, and that

862
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 3: comes with the abundance mindset. And I did so much

863
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 3: of the similar work that she was talking about. I

864
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 3: read so for two years I was reading books and

865
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Speaker 3: listening to podcasts and Oprah and Gary zukop and try

866
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 3: to find that light.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think shifting to that idea of what is

868
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 2: for you won't miss you is something that's been so

869
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,479
Speaker 2: helpful to me. Because have you ever gotten a job

870
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 2: by being competitive? No, it doesn't exactly work that way.

871
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 2: I think anytime we're trying to force something into submission,

872
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 2: that's when we're out of alignment.

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00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: Hmm.

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00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 3: I think you learn that with experience, though, Like I

875
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,919
Speaker 3: couldn't have told twenty two year old Danielle that, could

876
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 3: you have?

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00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 2: I probably would have been so insecure that I wouldn't

878
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 2: have listened or wouldn't have known how to incorporate that advice.

879
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Speaker 2: I think on the subject of competition, though, I'm curious

880
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: if you agree or disagree, Like competition is not even

881
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 2: it's not really a thing that goes away, Like you're

882
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 2: always going to be surrounded by people who are really

883
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 2: smart or really talented in your field, and I think

884
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 2: you have to learn how to navigate it and recognize

885
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 2: that you can gain something from it, that you can

886
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 2: learn something from the people that you're around, and also

887
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 2: that you never want to be the smartest person in

888
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 2: any room, right, You always want to be working with

889
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 2: people who are challenging you and sharpening you. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: my perspective on competition has changed a lot as I've

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00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 2: gotten older.

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Speaker 3: I want to bring up one more thing about what

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00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 3: Rees said, because she said that the hardest part about

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00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 3: building Hello Sunshine was finding money that people would not

895
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 3: invest in her, and I was shocked to hear that.

896
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 3: I look at her as a person who is just

897
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 3: so investable, like, you know, like she's a doer. She's

898
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 3: of course she has integrity. Of Course she's going to

899
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 3: complete the task. Of course she's going to make it

900
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 3: like she's going to try with all her might. And

901
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 3: that's what you want when you're investing in an entrepreneur.

902
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 3: I just was kind of shocked, were you so?

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Speaker 2: I listened to her talk about this in an interview

904
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 2: with Regina King, and I also was shocked to hear

905
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 2: her talking about how hard it was to get people

906
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 2: to believe in her as a producer and to build

907
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 2: up that credibility. But if you think back to that

908
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 2: time right before she made Gone Girl and Wild and

909
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 2: Big little lies. This concept of this multi hyphenate producer,

910
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 2: performer and a female who was doing that was really

911
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 2: unheard of at that time. Like, there weren't many women

912
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 2: who were doing that in the way that she's doing

913
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Speaker 2: it now.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think they were taken seriously.

915
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 2: Right, right, they weren't. Yeah, And so I mean it

916
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Speaker 2: just shows you how much has changed and how much

917
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Speaker 2: Hello Sunshine and Reese have been a part of that change,

918
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 2: have been drivers of that change. Because imagine if Hollywood

919
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: and the arts community just kept on moving in the

920
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 2: direction that it was going before, Like we would be

921
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 2: in a completely different universe right now, lacking all these

922
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 2: rich stories about women.

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Speaker 3: She said something about how like if someone says no,

924
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 3: that she's like, all right, let me rewrite the rules.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let me.

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Speaker 3: I love that energy so much. I think that the

927
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Speaker 3: world is in need of leaders so badly. Social movements

928
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 3: need leaders, companies need leaders, like we are all looking

929
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Speaker 3: for leadership, and I think she provides that so well.

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Speaker 3: I heard something the other day that no means next option.

931
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Speaker 3: I no, and I think she lives by that. She's like, no,

932
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Speaker 3: all right, I'm moving on to the next one. I'll

933
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 3: figure it out. So I think if I take anything

934
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 3: from today, it's next option. Go be fired up, go

935
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Speaker 3: into the world and try and give it your all.

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Speaker 2: I love that, and I also I love hearing her

937
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 2: talk about her contrarian spirit and that's something you have. Oh,

938
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Speaker 2: I totally have a contrarian spirit. I definitely relate to that.

939
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Speaker 2: And she's talked a lot about how she was this

940
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 2: really high spirited, imaginative little girl. And I think it's

941
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Speaker 2: a great reminder for all the parents out there that

942
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 2: if your child has that strong will that can make

943
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 2: your life kind of a headache in the early years,

944
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 2: that is not necessarily a bad thing, that that could

945
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Speaker 2: be the sign of a natural born leader under your roof.

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Speaker 3: Before we wrap day one, Simone and I want to

947
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Speaker 3: leave you with a little spark of joy to take

948
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Speaker 3: with you through your day.

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Speaker 2: Here's something that stood out to both of us from

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Speaker 2: our conversation with Reese. Be the hero of your own

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00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 2: story today and every day. Well that's it for us today.

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow on the show, we have the Goddess of gatherings,

953
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Speaker 2: Pria Parker. She's an expert on how to create meaningful

954
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 2: get togethers, and she'll help us set an attention for

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Speaker 2: this gathering The bright Side.

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Speaker 3: All right, bright Side besties, we want to hear from you,

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Speaker 3: And when I say want, we are dying to hear

958
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Speaker 3: from you. Which parts of Reese's story resonated with you

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Speaker 3: the most? Send us your answers are even better of

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