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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this spin off episode

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Speaker 1: of zeit Geist spin off Wish. We're calling the iconograph.

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Speaker 1: Instead of looking at the Zeitgeist through current events on

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Speaker 1: Monday mornings, we're looking at the zeitgeist through the powerful

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Speaker 1: pop cultural hork cruxes that are our icons. We use

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Speaker 1: these historical figures and famous characters to create meaning, to

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Speaker 1: build identity, to make our teens faint with sheer abject horniness,

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Speaker 1: to test the human body's capacity to withstand taking enough

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Speaker 1: pills to fill a large ballpit, to create a more

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Speaker 1: definitive way to object to something on TV, because why

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Speaker 1: change the channel when you can shoot the TV, as

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Speaker 1: our icon today did on multiple occasions our first episode

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Speaker 1: of the New Year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought, wow, okay, you shot the TV all

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Speaker 2: the time. That was just a thing this motherfucker did.

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Speaker 2: He didn't have a job, He didn't really. He also

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Speaker 2: recorded some of his later tracks in the jungle room

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Speaker 2: in his TV room, and you can like hear it

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Speaker 2: sounds like shit.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, we're talking Elvis Baby. Elvis Presley a pop

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Speaker 1: culture icon who became an almost religious figure in the

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Speaker 1: US after being the first person to invent the idea

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Speaker 1: that a white person could have charisma and kind of

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Speaker 1: go like Burger with their voice, and everyone's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: he fucking shit, where'd he get that idea? Not from

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Speaker 1: white people? We'll talk about it. No, I'm thrilled to

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Speaker 1: be joined as always by my co host, mister Miles Grab.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm just.

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Speaker 3: Kind of reeling from the last thing you said. Don't

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Speaker 3: tell me that Elvis Presley wasn't getting all of his

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Speaker 3: inspiration from the white Christian Jesus just came up, came.

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Speaker 1: Up with that whole cloth. This guy came up with

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Speaker 1: these songs in our third seat. Miles Hilaire be a

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Speaker 1: stand up comedian, actor, and musician. You can listen to

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Speaker 1: his podcast, Colbrew Gotila Anywhere. He's got an album that

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Speaker 1: received a seven point four on Pitchfork Hell, which is

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Speaker 1: better than two of three Elvis albums on that Pitchfork

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Speaker 1: has reviewed two of the three. Pitchfork has reviewed three

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Speaker 1: Elvis albums, two of them sub Crofton. He's got a

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Speaker 1: new one called I'm Your Man, available on band Camp.

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Speaker 1: The poetry window is open because it's Chris motherfucking Craft.

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Speaker 4: My question is if I have a record higher rank

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Speaker 4: than Elvis where is.

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Speaker 1: My jungle room. I have one room. I have an

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Speaker 1: everything room. Yeah, I have all of the different ecosystems,

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Speaker 1: the desert room, and then cold medicine right right, mountains

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Speaker 1: of tissue. Yeah yeah, I don't even have it. I

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Speaker 1: don't even have a TV to shoot a projector. I

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Speaker 1: guess I could shoot my I could shoot my phone. Yeah, don't, don't.

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Speaker 1: Don't do that. Don't do that. That would be one

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Speaker 1: of the things I wouldn't recommend from el Basically everything else.

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Speaker 1: He was pretty smart, pretty pretty on point. Let's get

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Speaker 1: into it. What was your first experience with Elvis Miles.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with you. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like ambiently, it's like a thing that you

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Speaker 3: I can't give a good answer.

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Speaker 1: It's like ambient all around you.

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Speaker 3: The one time I do remember vividly, my first real

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Speaker 3: vivid Elvis memory was when he died. I remember we

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Speaker 3: put our cat in like a boarding thing because we

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Speaker 3: went out of town, and then my cat died at

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Speaker 3: that boarding thing on the anniversary of Elvis' is like death.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's not good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah, So what was this? He died in

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Speaker 3: seventy seven, so this is ninety seven.

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Speaker 1: This is the twentieth anniversary anniversary of Elvis. Twentieth anniversary.

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Speaker 3: My cat is in a boarding thing because we went

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Speaker 3: out of town and then the fucking cat. My cat

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Speaker 3: was like nineteen at the time, so it was kind

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Speaker 3: And so I forever will always just think of Elvis

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Speaker 3: and my wonderful cat, Casey being dead. And then my

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Speaker 3: dad always he did a lot of like he was

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Speaker 3: experimenting with a lot of art pieces, like painting Elvis

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Speaker 3: black and stuff like do it using early photoshop to

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Speaker 3: make black Elvis as like a commentary on you know, the.

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Speaker 1: Cultural Wait, I can't. I've done this research and I

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Speaker 1: can't imagine what that would be a commentary. So those

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Speaker 1: are mine. Yeah, I think my first was like old

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Speaker 1: fifty million Elvis fans can't be wrong, and just it

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Speaker 1: phenomenon of Elvis fandom more than it was like any

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Speaker 1: a troubadour, an Elvis in your own right. What was

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Speaker 4: I got a story for you. So nineteen seventy seven,

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Speaker 4: I'm eight, you know, and I am watching watching the

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Speaker 4: whole world go crazy that Elvis has passed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and up until.

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Speaker 4: Then, my parents probably thought I was maybe kind of normal,

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Speaker 4: like maybe they didn't know that I needed a lot

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, like I'm taking this.

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Speaker 4: Elvis has always meant so much to me.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't. I wanted a piece of the action. So

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Speaker 1: I was like, I always loved Elvis since I was eight.

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Speaker 1: So my family was like, no, you have it, you

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Speaker 4: I was like, no, no, one song. The worst thing

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Speaker 4: has ever happened to me? Yeah, Chrim talking about and

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Speaker 4: I was relent. I did not give up. I was like,

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Speaker 4: I've always loved him. This is the hardest thing for me.

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Speaker 4: And and then I was like, ohso everybody's got to

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Speaker 4: get me Elvis albums as fast as possible.

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Speaker 1: To back this up.

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Speaker 4: You guys know I'm crazy, but not everybody else has

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Speaker 4: to know. So let's get some Elvis albums in this

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Speaker 3: Right, why am I wearing all black? Because I'm still

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Speaker 3: in mourning over Elvis Presle.

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Speaker 4: So I fucking all my friends gave me Elvis albums

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Speaker 1: And I did a lot of people are with like

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Speaker 4: But now you can do that, you can just I mean,

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Speaker 4: if someone really you know what I mean. Someone could

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Speaker 1: I mean you can't really.

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Speaker 4: But my as an eight year old with no car

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Speaker 4: I you know, I wasn't. I didn't have any big

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Speaker 1: So that was my first.

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Speaker 4: And it reminds me of like that same period when

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Speaker 1: Visiting with a frang out. Yeah, like a hang out

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Speaker 4: She had horses and like my mom came to pick

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Speaker 4: when my mom pulled up, she was like, oh I

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Speaker 4: didn't know Chris Road. Oh I didn't know Chris rides, okay,

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Speaker 4: because my mom was like doesn't Yeah, like I said,

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Speaker 4: I had a horse. Your mom belew you up like that.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh my mom was.

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Speaker 1: She was ruthless. She was like in the car, like,

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Speaker 1: doesn't have a horse. And he also doesn't like Elvis.

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Speaker 1: I know he probably told you that too. He's still

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Speaker 4: There's nothing that makes me sadder than when I'm riding

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Speaker 1: In the moonlight lantern. This just crushes me. Another early thing,

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Speaker 1: and this was like real big in the nineties. It

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Speaker 1: I think in one hundred years, if I like looked

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Speaker 1: Why are like? Why are there? Why is there a

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Speaker 1: Why is there a cottage industry full of people who

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Speaker 1: inundated with Elvis impersonators and he's one of the eldest impersonators,

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Speaker 1: they don't don't do that. They do that for Elvis

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Speaker 3: I feel like the people that otherwise they're like Michael jacks,

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Speaker 3: Marilyn Monroe, Mike Jackson and him are like so linked

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Speaker 1: But yeah, there were impersonators when he was alive, but

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Speaker 1: much like a Chris Croft, and it really their affinity

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's kind of like sort of like how

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Speaker 3: you if you want to be like an annoying kid

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Speaker 3: in the nineties and you had like an ace Ventura impression,

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Speaker 3: very much JOm wan Elvis impersonator and you had a

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Speaker 3: fucking gig.

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Speaker 1: Elvis almost seems like because it is a voice that

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Speaker 1: he did. We're going to talk about like how he

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Speaker 1: was discovered and like became Elvis and he was doing

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Speaker 1: of Sun Records being like this fucking sucks. I thought

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Speaker 1: this guy wouldn be good. And then he started sucking

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Speaker 1: and it was like it was exactly like the scene

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Speaker 1: the Bones are their money scene from I think you

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Speaker 1: should leave where like the guys on the guitar just

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Speaker 1: like immediately like come in behind him. As he's like starts.

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Speaker 1: He goes from like being his normal self to being

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Speaker 1: they're like that, keep doing that, that's great. Up. I

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Speaker 1: a lot about Elvis. I thought you're his biggest fan,

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Speaker 1: Chris oh Man. I did not no, I didn't know.

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Speaker 4: But ye know that he was like that he stumbled

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Speaker 1: Because he's even such money.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at a baby picture of him, and he's

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Speaker 1: Andy Kaufman did it while Elvis elbing. Yeah, it's not

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Speaker 3: He gave like an easy thing for people to tap

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Speaker 4: like kind of like saying, where's the Beefer or like saying, like,

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Speaker 4: I don't know what kids say today, you know, brats

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Speaker 4: How about we Somebody goes, hey, you're Elvis, I'm Elvis,

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Speaker 1: you'd be like, oh, this is like a powerful religious

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Speaker 4: Right, and he wasn't pretentious, he was he went straight

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Speaker 4: to things yeah, like I'm gonna get a push button phone,

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Speaker 1: That's holy shit. Like we had cars.

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Speaker 4: He used cars when I grew up, and we didn't

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Speaker 1: And he was like like the way saying not pretentious,

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Speaker 1: He was just like down for whatever he was. He

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And his mom was like, you survived for a reason,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if they got him a bike, he could have

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Speaker 5: been You would have jumped that fucking river or whatever

435
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 5: that one YouTube video Chris you showed us.

436
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, he would have been the hottest, like

437
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 1: whatever bike racer or whatever. One thing that I think

438
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:27,360
Speaker 1: always gets cut out of the origin stories of these

439
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 1: you know icons, is like all the other people and

440
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 1: all the contributing factors, and we're going to get into

441
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 1: like the obvious like musical inspirations in quotes. A lot

442
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 1: of his early songs were covers of black artists that

443
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 1: had like already charted with this, but like weren't on

444
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: the pop charts. But it was also like a time

445
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 1: like he started practicing guitar with this guy who lived

446
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: on his street, and like him and two other guys

447
00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 1: were like practicing with this guitar teacher, and one of

448
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: those other guys ended up becoming like a major rockabilly pioneer,

449
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,360
Speaker 1: or like two of them. So like there's this teacher

450
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 1: who's just like creating people who are in like the

451
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: Rockabilly Hall of Fame. Who was the other one? So

452
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: the teacher's name was Lee Denson, and then there was

453
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 1: Johnny and Dorsey Burnett, I guess, but also at the

454
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: same he came out of Memphis at the exact same

455
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 1: time as Johnny Cash. So there's just like something happening

456
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: in the area with like influences, and you know that

457
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: isn't the hotspot for music at the time necessarily, but

458
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,640
Speaker 1: you know, things were. We prefer the great Man theory

459
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 1: of things, but they are. You know, two of these

460
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: iconic musicians are coming out of the same town right

461
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: at the same time. Johnny Cash also had a like

462
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: mystical connection to a brother who died when he was younger,

463
00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 1: which is you might have seen in his bi pick

464
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: walk the line. All right, let's get to the Sun Records,

465
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:04,719
Speaker 1: the thing I was talking about earlier, because I do

466
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,719
Speaker 1: think that's one of the most interesting parts of the story.

467
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: So the owner of Sun Records and Sun Studio is

468
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: this guy Sam Phillips, and he scouted blues acts from

469
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Speaker 1: the Mississippi Delta and is credited with recording arguably the

470
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: first rock and roll songs, Rocket eighty eight by Ike

471
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: Turners Kings of Rhythm, and that was two years earlier

472
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: than it was really good. Still is also at the

473
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: time Rock around the Clock was charting. So as this

474
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: is happening, like there are rock songs like song invented this.

475
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: It was like for white Elvis was the first. It

476
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: was like so strange for people at the time that

477
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: a white person would be making this music that after

478
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: the song I'm about to like talk about the creation

479
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 1: of the first radio station that played it. Like the

480
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 1: people who were calling and wouldn't believe he was white

481
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: until he told them what high school he went to,

482
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: and then they were like, oh, well that is South yeah, yeah, yeah,

483
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 1: so but yeah, Sam Phillips was actively looking for a

484
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: white artist to sing sped up blues and R and

485
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: B songs in the you know, same mode as like

486
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: Rocket eighty eight. Elvis steps into his recording studio, there's

487
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: like a lot of like there's a story that he

488
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: went in too, like record a couple songs for his mom,

489
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 1: but a thing that gets cut out a lot is like, like,

490
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: like I said, they are not succeeding for a long time.

491
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 1: It's I think a day and a half of like

492
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: recording and everybody being like this is shit. And then

493
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: he calls into Memphis musicians Scottie Moore, Bill Black and

494
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 1: on July fourth, So after a day of fucking around

495
00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 1: and not finding anything, Elvis started quote goofing around and

496
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: broke into a fast rendition of Arthur Big Boy crowd

497
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 1: up song That's all right, Mama, And again they just

498
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: like fall right in and they're like doom doom, doom doom,

499
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: and he's just goofing and.

500
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 4: A couple of things real quick. I bet you in

501
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 4: that first day and a half when he was failing,

502
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 4: he still had sex with everybody in that building.

503
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: And they were getting mad and they were like, listen,

504
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: this guy.

505
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 4: If he doesn't do something, we got to get him

506
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 4: out of here because he's having sex with everybody, and

507
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 4: then and then my wife three times. He's fucked everything

508
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 4: he's about. He fucked elevator operator and he never fucks

509
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 4: anybody that elevator operator. And the other thing was, I

510
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 4: wonder if they brewed some coffee halfway through that second day.

511
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 4: I bet you hadn't discovered speed at this point, So

512
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 4: I wait, what do you call this drink? Here?

513
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 1: Health? I feel health? No weed ray, no tea, Elvis coffeel.

514
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 1: He said that that moment in the Sunseus was the

515
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: first time he'd ever sung in that style, fast, growling,

516
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: cocky uh and basically invented the character as a bit.

517
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: And I just I think that we found this like

518
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: when Jelil White talks about creating Arkle, he was like,

519
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: I just went out of body. Frank Oz he was

520
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: like the thing that like crystallized Miss Piggy for him

521
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: was just this thing that like he wasn't even thinking of,

522
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 1: but he like did a karate chop on Kermit and

523
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: then it it's like you have to our instincts are

524
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: like so our conscious instincts are like so wrong that

525
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: like you need something to like get them out of

526
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: the way to you know, we're like scared of being

527
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: humiliated and you need to either be tired. You need

528
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: to like be like, ah, what if I did something

529
00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:00,080
Speaker 1: this stupid? Right, that's pretty silly, and the people are like,

530
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: that's actually you just you're Elvis Jack. He was talking

531
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: about Rkle or is that in this document you're reading?

532
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: Or is this for you? Is the other Elvis just

533
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: was the second icon that we covered on this series,

534
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: categorized Merkle, and the same for.

535
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 3: When Chris is confused by the tangents the episode is taking.

536
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: Okay, Chris, you're gonna have to go back and listen

537
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: to the episode. I'm gonna listen to it right after this.

538
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: But he said, uh, I never sang that way in

539
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: my life until I made that first record. I remember

540
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: that song because I heard Arthur sing it, and I

541
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: thought I would like to try it. That was it.

542
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: M yeah, wow, must be nice, Must be nice. So

543
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: I figured I'd give that a try, and people really

544
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: liked it, almost even more.

545
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 3: It's crazy, And I don't know, this is during segregation

546
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 3: and they just used me as a conduit to get

547
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 3: white culture to accept black music.

548
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they already had add an industry, I

549
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 4: think of white artists, you know, like I don't know

550
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 4: if Pat Boone was already going then yeah.

551
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: Pat Boone would take songs performed by black artists that

552
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: were popular and he would just like wipe them up,

553
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: like he would just like remove all feeling and just

554
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: boil it so there's no flavor, just boiled ass chicken breast.

555
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, so that's what people that. That was the

556
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: formula up to that point.

557
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 4: So I wonder if Sam Phillips was just like no

558
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 4: one's ever tried this with like Little Richard or you know,

559
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 4: something like Pat Boone mostly did like the top hits

560
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 4: that were more like less you know, like a wild

561
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 4: than a lot of the big R and B hits

562
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 4: like they did. Maybe it was just he was like, oh,

563
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 4: why don't we do the R and b the wild

564
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 4: fucking dirty R and B shit the same way that

565
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 4: we're doing the.

566
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Speaker 1: Generally in American culture.

567
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 3: There's always a way where white American culture finds a

568
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 3: way to co op black culture and subsume it, right,

569
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 3: and then yeah, it turns into this other thing where

570
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 3: it's like and then this is rock.

571
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: And roll, and it was like it's rock and roll now, okay,

572
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: but it's.

573
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Speaker 3: I mean, the one thing I do know is like

574
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 3: a lot of they're like, there are black artists who

575
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 3: spoke highly of Elvis because they do see him as like, well,

576
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 3: he was open to me and he opened the door

577
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 3: for me. And then you have other people who are

578
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 3: straight up like, I mean, this is just some guy

579
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 3: doing our music.

580
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: And because of Ray Charles, Yeah, because of that Ray

581
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: Charles interview with Bob Costas.

582
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, that's that's when I

583
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 3: think he was just straight up like, oh no, he's stealing.

584
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 4: He won't even say he's talented, like we gotta admit

585
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 4: his talented, and Ray Charles is like, I don't have

586
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 4: to really admit that.

587
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 3: I don't know, he's he's straight up like, yeah, I

588
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 3: know so.

589
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 4: Many people who are black or more talented than that guy.

590
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 3: Right, you know that's and I think that's kind of

591
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 3: like the underpinnings of all of that too. It's like

592
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 3: sort of like, oh, he was able to take this

593
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 3: genre and because of his the presentation of it, took

594
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 3: it somewhere else. I think that's why, in a way

595
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 3: for me, his music as isn't as icon as his presence. Yes,

596
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 3: if I think that's what I think.

597
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: That's like the thing that is left is definitely his

598
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: image and iconography more than his music. Although like going

599
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: back like he has he has a good voice and

600
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: like some of the songs are cool to listen to

601
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: for sure.

602
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he he actually had an interest in this.

603
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 4: That's maybe the only thing. I mean. I would say

604
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 4: that Elvis was sort of an unwitting Elvis was like

605
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 4: seriously like a sheltered weirdo who did love black music

606
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 4: and apparently snuck into clubs around Memphis to learn, so

607
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 4: he did have I mean, I think it was more

608
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 4: like he got sort of pimped into this by black people.

609
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: I mean not, you know, I don't think I think

610
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: his I think he loved from what.

611
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 4: I understand and reading about he had in my culture,

612
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 4: he did not intend to capitalize on it in some

613
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 4: way that was he was not cynical the people around you.

614
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: And segregated like uh clubs to like listen to black music.

615
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: He was a huge fan. One of the most outspoken

616
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: people talking about the import and of like black artists

617
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: influencing his music was Elvis like he would always give credit.

618
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: But one of the big things that I feel like

619
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: gets left out of people who are like Elvis apologists

620
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: is like a lot of these artists did not make money.

621
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: You know, they were in like really shitty record contracts

622
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: with people who you know, Elvis would like make millions

623
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: and millions of dollars off of their songs. They would

624
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: you know, not have any access to the royalties. And

625
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: like there's a world where he's not just like, yeah,

626
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: I really owe them a lot, but also is like

627
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: and I'm going to use my influence to make sure

628
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: that they get paid. But he was just, you know,

629
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: not interested in that. I'm gonna shoot some TVs. Instead,

630
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go over here and shoot some TVs. Yeah. Yeah,

631
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: Elvis was like he was, Yeah, he was a goofy guy.

632
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: He really has like some like child like some of

633
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: the same like child in an adult body type shit

634
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: that Michael Jackson had. He's spoken interviews that way.

635
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 4: I think that's another thing that endeared him to people,

636
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 4: as he was not pretentious in interviews as either. He

637
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 4: was very kind of childlike.

638
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, excuse yeah, which doesn't excuse I mean, but but

639
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 5: I think if there's anything like for me after I

640
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 5: was like, I love Elvis Presley and then had to

641
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 5: start filling in the blanks like he seemed like he

642
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 5: seemed like he had a sense of humor.

643
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: I guess that's all I would say.

644
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 4: It seemed to me as a kid, like, oh, this

645
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 4: guy seems like kind of nice or something. But he definitely,

646
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 4: you know, he definitely was a guy who hoarded resources.

647
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah. He had about nine hundred golf carts.

648
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: Incredible golf cart collection.

649
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 4: So rich people do, is they just hoarde golf gut

650
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 4: one weird specifically golf carts.

651
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Speaker 1: I mean, we really do. We do have a recurring

652
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Speaker 1: segment on these Icon episodes Epstein List or Not on

653
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Speaker 1: That which in which we asked the question would this person,

654
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Speaker 1: had they been at the peak of their fame during

655
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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein's reign, been on on the Epstein list, and

656
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: the answer is a definitive Yeah, oh yeah, it's Aepstein.

657
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: It's a Epstein. On this one. I knew that he

658
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: met Priscilla Boulie. I don't know how you pronounced her

659
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: maiden name by a lot of owls and then be

660
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: in and out. But when she was fourteen years old,

661
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,240
Speaker 1: when he was in the army, and he was twenty

662
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: four and I didn't realize that at the time of

663
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Speaker 1: his death at forty two years old. Spoiler alerts, his

664
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: fiance was twenty just al the one after persona one

665
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Speaker 1: after Priscilla Jesus was at her oldest during their relationship,

666
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: twenty years old when he was in his forties. But

667
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: his sexual energy was kind of a weird transition. But

668
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: I do just want to So he makes these records.

669
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: They take off, are selling more than anything ever up

670
00:35:55,520 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: to that point in history, just incredible chart topping. And

671
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: he starts going on TV and there becomes this massive

672
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: controversy about how horny he's making everybody. So he makes

673
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: his first appearance on the Milton Burrel Show and he's like,

674
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: the people have revised it to be that a thing

675
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: where like they had to shoot him from the waist

676
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: up because if you showed his dick, like everybody's heads

677
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: would explode. That's not exactly true. Like when you go

678
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: back and watch the clips, like they're they're definitely like

679
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: cutting away at key moments, but there are parts, I

680
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: mean they just like don't know what to do with him.

681
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: Like one of his first appearances is like on an

682
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: aircraft carrier performing to a bunch of sailors, and every

683
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: time he like does a dance move that you can

684
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: hear the sailors being like, oh, like scoffing at him. Oh,

685
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: I thought you meant like having orgasms. I mean they

686
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: might have been covering their orgasms by like giving dry

687
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: coughs and like stuff they used to do. But people

688
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: once he starts appearing on TV, as mentioned, she's like

689
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: the hottest person who's ever been on TV, and people

690
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: just like fucking flip their shit. His first appearance on

691
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: The Ed Sullivan Show is one of the most watched

692
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: events in the history of television. I think eighty two

693
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: percent of all televisions were tuned in watching it. Like

694
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: in that moment, it's the moon landing. That and the

695
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: Beatles are like the three thing the three most like

696
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: when they came to America. Yeah, the three most watched

697
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: like moments in the history of television. Obviously modo culture. Man,

698
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: nothing beats monoculture. Yeah.

699
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 4: Well, also it was like, you know, it was a

700
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 4: bad moment for those of us who aren't the hottest

701
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 4: people in the fucking world, because you know, like like

702
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 4: Ed Sullivan, Man, look at that guy. You think they

703
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 4: ever going to hire a host. It looks like that

704
00:37:55,480 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 4: after Elmos, No, they realized, wait a minute, get we

705
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 4: need to get hot people to do every job. Yeah,

706
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 4: he's just it is.

707
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: It is wild to watch again, Like, go back and

708
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: watch his first Ed Sullivan appearance. Ed Sullivan had been

709
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: in a car accident, and like there's this other actor

710
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: on who's like hosting the show, and he's just like

711
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 1: somebody would just never ever be on television in our

712
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: modern era, right, and then Elvis just like saunters out

713
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,720
Speaker 1: and starts fucking you through the television screen and everyone

714
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 1: looking at a clip of it. Who is this dude

715
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: that's the guy introducing him? Basically, yes, yeah, the guy

716
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: introducing him. He's like these things behind me. Oh no.

717
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: Ed Sullivant had been in a car accident, and he's like,

718
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: these things are called gold Records, and we're going to

719
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: Hollywood to see And then and then Elvis comes out.

720
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Speaker 3: The juxtaposition of that host who there's probably fifty given

721
00:38:59,480 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 3: the era.

722
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like a less hot Alfred Hitchcock. He looks

723
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 1: like mister potato head. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

724
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 3: And then you have old palmyde with a drinking come out,

725
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 3: like rides his dick out onto stage.

726
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 4: And then right just and at that moment, they were like,

727
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 4: after they saw the ratings, they were like, we're not

728
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 4: given any more like furnace operators hosting jobs right on TV, Like, well,

729
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 4: you're gonna have everybody on TV be hot, because why

730
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 4: not give us even if the music's bad. It's better

731
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 4: to have a hot person playing bad music than an

732
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 4: ugly person playing good music. I really feel like that

733
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 4: was the beginning, and you can trace it directly to

734
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 4: Gavin Rossdale and now.

735
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: Do a lipa. But I do just want to talk

736
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: about like how much like The New York Times TV

737
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: critic wrote, mister Presley's one specialty is nick accented movement

738
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: of the body that heretofore had been primarily identified with

739
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: the repertoire of the Blonde Bombshells or the burlesque runway.

740
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: The gyration never had anything to do with the world

741
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: of popular music and still doesn't, mark my words.

742
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 4: Right boy, this guy on the TV, now that's not

743
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 4: the popular opinion.

744
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: A juvenile court judge presented Elvis with an unsighed Warrens

745
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: for his arrest on charges of impairing the morals of miners.

746
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: Man talked about a hater and specifically said that Elvis

747
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: could wiggle side to side, but no back and forth motions. Oh,

748
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: no pumping, No, no pumping, just wiggling. Yeah, don't be

749
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 1: pumping now. That's because every.

750
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Speaker 4: Person who didn't have to dance knew they were out

751
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 4: of business at that moment too. Every dude who had

752
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 4: just gotten away with being ugly and wearing some pressed

753
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 4: slacks and getting laid was out of business. Now you

754
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 4: need new skill, and that's why they were like, we

755
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 4: have to outlaw people wiggling immediately.

756
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,439
Speaker 3: That's too much swag man wile. The host that day

757
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 3: was British actor Charles Lott.

758
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:58,439
Speaker 1: Charles Lotton, that's right, ship that was that furnace operator. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

759
00:40:58,440 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: God damn that four n four.

760
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 3: It's a man to have to be juxtapost It's jarring, truly,

761
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 3: like especially in the context of what you're talking about,

762
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 3: because it really does feel like the bar was raised

763
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 3: for being like if you you must be this hot

764
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 3: to appear in public, right, like hoot and holler at you.

765
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Speaker 1: I remember though, like looking back at serial commercials in

766
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: the seventies, like back my time at Cracked and noticing

767
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: like it's been a subtle like they they did not

768
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: learn that lesson all at once. There's a Raisin brand

769
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: commercial where like a group of actors played Raisins and

770
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 1: it was just like a bunch of like guys who

771
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: would only be on TV to play butchers, you know,

772
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 1: like it today they would only be on to in

773
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: like a weight loss commercial that would be their only

774
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: but they were just there because they were part of

775
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: an acting troop. Like it did take them a while

776
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 1: and into into that world steps Elvis Presley, so Ed

777
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: Sullivan refuse to have a mom for a long time.

778
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: He watched his performance on The Milton Burl Show and

779
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: was specifically started like watching his dick and I'm just

780
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: gonna this is from the Wikipedia page watching clips of

781
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: the Allen and Burroll Show. Sullivan had opined that Presley

782
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: quote got some kind of device hanging down below the

783
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: crotch of his pants, so when he moves his legs

784
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 1: back and forth, you can see the outline of his cock.

785
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: I think it's a coke bottle. We just can't have

786
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: this on a Sunday night. This is a family show.

787
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: As for his gyrations, the whole thing can be controlled

788
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: with camera shots. Oh my, yes, some kind of a

789
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 1: device is so funny.

790
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,240
Speaker 4: You had a device, like a device that like showed

791
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 4: off his dick like a device in addition to like

792
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 4: somehow he had a device down there.

793
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: So unfamiliar with like gyrating and just like dancing with

794
00:42:52,800 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: a flavorless shit. Du he got some kind of When

795
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: I wiggle, you can't see my dick. So he must

796
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,479
Speaker 1: have some sort of coke bottle propping it up.

797
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 4: With some kind of his cock a coke bottle, or

798
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 4: have a bunch of pulleys attached to his ass.

799
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 3: Hold my, I just love that our gade technology, like

800
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 3: get a pully system.

801
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 4: No, I think maybe he just has a decent sized

802
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 4: dick adad and he's wiggling and he's like good dancing, not.

803
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: That can't be what I'm looking at.

804
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 4: It has to a device that looks like a damn

805
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 4: file cabinet tangling down there.

806
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 1: I'll say, somebody refuses to date anyone who's not a teenager.

807
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,439
Speaker 1: Probably didn't have a huge dick. But I have no idea.

808
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: I didn't get into and he didn't find any research

809
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: one way or the other.

810
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 4: Well, maybe it was a coke bottle, then you could

811
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 4: be Jack says it was. Jack's like, you know what,

812
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 4: I think you.

813
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: Have seen some weird coke bottle that sold, is right,

814
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: It was some kind of contraption, I think, So all right,

815
00:43:51,360 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: let's take it quick. Ray, We'll be right back, and

816
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: we're back, all right. I didn't realize it at twenty

817
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: two years old. So he's sold all those records. Is

818
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: when he buys Graceland and from then on. This is

819
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: always an interesting moment. I feel like it's usually a

820
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: bad thing for the long term sanity of an artist

821
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,439
Speaker 1: when they get their own like Disneyland that they live

822
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: inside of and it's like only them and people who

823
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: are hired to buy them.

824
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 4: Take it from me, I was, you know, I lived

825
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 4: at col Brew Acres for many years, and yeah, it

826
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 4: was it was, it got out of hand, he went

827
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 4: a little crazy.

828
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 1: I just what One of the things that's on display

829
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: at Graceland is a TV that he shot out, And

830
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: I just want to read a story from PBS about that.

831
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: The story goes that as he watched singer Robert Goolay

832
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: performing on television one night, he shot out the screen

833
00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 1: of his twenty five inch RCATV. There's nothing Elvis ha

834
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: against Robert Gulay. They were friends, Kevin Kern, a spokesman

835
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: for Presley's home and museum Graceland in Memphis, Tennessee, told

836
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: the Associated Press. But Elvis just shot out things on

837
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: a random basis, just shot out things on a Do

838
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 1: we have any other things that have been shot by Elvis?

839
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 1: Just because? What? Did he always just have a gun

840
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: on him? He really liked guns.

841
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 3: But I mean like to shoot it in your home,

842
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 3: like you have to quite literally have that thang on you.

843
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: While you're watching TV. Right. I think he kept that

844
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 1: him all the time.

845
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 6: He developed a lot of problems. Miles, oh Man, this

846
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 6: was a lot. So I'm learning a lot about it. Look,

847
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 6: I've always viewed Elvis at a distance. I knew that

848
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 6: he was taking black music.

849
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 3: I knew that he like met Priscilla Press, who was fourteen.

850
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: Other than that, I'm like, and I think he shot

851
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: some shit. Yeah, well, my god shot a lot of things.

852
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 4: I only know because there was this book about the

853
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 4: Memphis Mafia that I read or skimmed or whatever. But

854
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 4: then I got deep into Memphis Mafia stuff, which is

855
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 4: his entourage, and they just told like his life became

856
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 4: completely pathetic. I mean, he just had he just had

857
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 4: no he had no job. He couldn't go tour Europe

858
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 4: because Colonel Tom Parker was afraid he was going to

859
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 4: get deported because Colonel Tom Parker didn't have citizenship, so

860
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 4: he'd never wanted Elvis. So Elvis never toured outside of America. Yeah,

861
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 4: and Elvis was sad he had nothing to do. So

862
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 4: he was just in Memphis taking karate classes and he

863
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 4: was on all these massive bill doses and and it

864
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 4: all became very It's very funny and interesting to see

865
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 4: a man do karate on pills and stuff, but yeah.

866
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: It's kind of great ate. Yeah, but yeah, he was.

867
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 4: He became like he was heavily armed in his bedroom

868
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 4: on pills, watching two TVs at once.

869
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 1: He had like a couple of TVs. You know, he

870
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 1: would have Liken TVs going at once because President did that,

871
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: and so he can ring a bell and get a

872
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: peanut butter sandwich, you know what I mean. But I

873
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: just love it, just shot out saying on a random basis,

874
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: is such a great line diminishing what is objectively terrifying

875
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: the psychotic behavior. Yeah, but there was just a king man.

876
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 3: That's just funny because I only learned that reference from

877
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 3: the Simpsons.

878
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's a lot of what I know

879
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: from the Simpsons. The controller, I know that that's what

880
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: he had instead of a remote control back then. You

881
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: just shot the TV to not even like be mad

882
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:31,720
Speaker 1: at Robert Goulay, just shoot the TV because he don't

883
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: like his performance. He probably thought it was an intruder

884
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: coming in the window. The window he just shot Robert Gulay,

885
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,280
Speaker 1: that wasn't the window. Around this time, he gets drafted

886
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: into the army. Colonel Tom Parker steps in and says,

887
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: like he's not allowed to perform while he's over there,

888
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: because I think he just didn't want to like have

889
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: a bunch of free Elvis records floating around out there.

890
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: But Colonel Tom Parker's a crazy, like interesting figure that

891
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: he was able to like the you think the Army

892
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: didn't want to use like Elvis performances you know during

893
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: the Cold War. Oh sure, but like just like drove

894
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: a jeep while he was over there. That's when he

895
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: discovers amphetamines. That's one of the crazy details of his

896
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,919
Speaker 1: relationship with Priscilla is like he immediately like she comes

897
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: to live with him in Memphis and he's like just

898
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: giving her all the pills that he takes. At one point,

899
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 1: she sleeps for like two days straight. I'm sure that

900
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: that's nothing good. It is why like the movie, uh,

901
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: the Sophia Coppola movie Priscilla just kind of they portray

902
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: it as like her having strict parents but like that

903
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: she was sixteen and they let her live in Memphis

904
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: with Elvis while they lived Like what the fuck was

905
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: her mom doing that was so important in Germany that

906
00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 1: she wouldn't come live there? But anyway, time, man, yeah,

907
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 1: I guess so, but slept two days on his tranquilizers.

908
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: She ends up having an affair with a Karate Instrucles Wallace. Yes, Mike,

909
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: Mike Stone, I think is the guy who maybe maybe

910
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: multiple karate. I know she had an affair with Bill

911
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: Superfoot Wallace, I know it. But it's funny because his

912
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: like weird, childlike obsession with karate comes in like boomerangs,

913
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: and she like to get his attention, starts learning karate.

914
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: Like at one point when she's pregnant, he like is like,

915
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: I think we need to separate baby, having having some

916
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 1: second thoughts because he just like didn't like pregnant women.

917
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 1: He also like wouldn't have sex with her after she

918
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: had their child because he quote had never been able

919
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 1: to make love to a woman who had a child.

920
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,919
Speaker 1: So good. Huh uh, that's just wild.

921
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 3: The motherfuckers were saying shit like that, yeah, putting that

922
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 3: wax ye like.

923
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: Nodding their heads when he said it too, And he

924
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 1: came right about that man, right king, right king, very

925
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 1: similar to there's a lot of similar Trump did that thing.

926
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: He tweeted a picture of him side by side with

927
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: Elvis and was like, huh, what do you think? And

928
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: I do. There's like a lot First of all, Elvis,

929
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: like late Elvis looks like a human being designed by

930
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 1: Trump's interior decorating sensibility. But there's a lot of times

931
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: during this that I thought about Trump, like and just

932
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: being cocooned in a weird place that is just full

933
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: of yes men. It's just an echo chamber of all

934
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: of your ideas and people saying how smart they are,

935
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: and just the idea that like the crazy shit that

936
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 1: Elvis got up to, like that's who's running the fucking

937
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: country at this point.

938
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, so okay, tell me about the martial arts shit,

939
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 3: because I'm always fascinated when I see this guy like

940
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 3: wearing his fucking.

941
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: Aviators in like a full gee. It was a fad,

942
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: then it was a fad. He got real into it.

943
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: He told everyone he was a seventh degree black belt.

944
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: The way he became a seventh degree black belt was

945
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:13,720
Speaker 1: that he was into numerology as all like famous crazy

946
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: people get to at a certain point, and was like,

947
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: seventh perfect number. Man, I got to be a seventh

948
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: degree black belt, and his sense was like I'm only

949
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: a sixth and he's like make it happen, man, And

950
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: so they like created some weird system where he got

951
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: to be an eighth degree black belt so that Elvis

952
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: could get bumped up to being a seventh degree black belt.

953
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:39,240
Speaker 1: He wore cowboy boots. To the dojo for self defense drills.

954
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: He insisted on using real firearms, not prop guns like

955
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: loaded firearms. Yeah no, right, yeah, okay. In June nineteen

956
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: seventy seven, a few months before his death, he was

957
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: in Madison, Wisconsin for a concert, and he ordered his

958
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 1: limo to stop because he saw at a gas station

959
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: two teenage had pinned the attendant to the ground and

960
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: we're punching and kicking him. This is according to him.

961
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: Elvis hopped out of the limousine and started kicking and

962
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 1: punching the air like it was a karate demonstration, and

963
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 1: then like struck a badass pose and was like, I'll

964
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: take you on. And the teens were just like, holy shit,

965
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: it's Elvis, and they just started laughing and shook his

966
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,439
Speaker 1: hand and he was like, is everything settled now? And

967
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 1: they were like, yeah, man, we're good. What the fuck Elvis? Yeah,

968
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: He's like, that's right. They saw my karate child. But

969
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: he yeah, he was just the strangest. Yeah, he was.

970
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,919
Speaker 1: He was a child. He was obsessed factor. He says,

971
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: imagine witnessing this from the attendance as kicked, Elvis comes

972
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: out like I could have sworn I just got rescued

973
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: by Elvis Presley. Right, A lot of his late career

974
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: shit like seems like a hallucination to me. The Elvis impersonators,

975
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 1: like all all of the karate stuff, all of his

976
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 1: performances just feel like weird, like fever dreams. This is

977
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: another karate story. Alice Cooper was invited to Elvis's Las

978
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: Vegas penthouse. He showed up with lizaman Elli and Linda

979
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 1: Lovelas and Elvis immediately handed him a loaded revolver and

980
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: told him to put it to his head and then

981
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 1: he did a flying karate kick, knocked the gun out

982
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: of Cooper's hand, tripped Cooper, pinned him to the ground

983
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 1: by his neck. So that's how you stop a man

984
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,280
Speaker 1: with a gun. Oh my god, dude.

985
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 4: Right, And if you look at the old miles, if

986
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 4: you are interested, and I can point you to a

987
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 4: little site that I'm aware of, you Tube.

988
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, brother.

989
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 4: On YouTube, you can see the footage of Elvis doing

990
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 4: his karate moves and like sick of fants, like you know,

991
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 4: he touches them on the nose and they do four

992
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 4: flips and fall through the you know, go through the wall.

993
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 4: You can see his karate because he was. They were like,

994
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 4: we got to give this guy an degree black belt.

995
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: So he's on les what the fuld on? By the way,

996
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: that man right there, that man with the beard is

997
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 1: my friend's dad. Who's your fame with the beard is

998
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: my friend's dad. Who is that guy? Brandis Hulcomb. He

999
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 1: used to be in my band. That's his dad.

1000
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 4: Wow.

1001
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: And he was a karate He was like a he.

1002
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 4: Was also he was a karate instructor for Elvis. He

1003
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 4: was also Clint East's bodyguard.

1004
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 3: Look at the back of Elvis' geed that's orientalists and

1005
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 3: orientalist font.

1006
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:30,879
Speaker 1: Wow, dude, this is he really remember his dad's name.

1007
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 4: His dad's name was Hulcom is his last name, but

1008
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 4: I can't remember his first name anyway, shout out brandis

1009
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 4: but true.

1010
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: It does look like a child doing a karate demons

1011
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: right because they had Oh my god, this is not

1012
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: this is his bullshit. Man.

1013
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,720
Speaker 3: Fuck bro, Elvis is taking both my motherfucking cultures Black

1014
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,919
Speaker 3: and Japanese, where you ain't no fucking karate man, you fuck.

1015
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 4: That was also two am. He used to go wait am, Yes,

1016
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 4: he would get everybody had to go on his schedule,

1017
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 4: so he often would be like, we're going to the dojo,

1018
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 4: and they'd be like, everybody's asleep, and he would make

1019
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 4: them all get up and then do his like little

1020
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 4: moves and they all have to like they got you know,

1021
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 4: sent through the you know, they'd all have to go

1022
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 4: flying when he just like, you know, it was all

1023
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 4: I just think I have a corrupt, like.

1024
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: Funny the Steven Sagall thing where he's doing a karate

1025
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: demonstration of the people are like jumping out of the

1026
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 1: way and acting like he just like flipped them over. Oh,

1027
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: Brandis's dad, that's Brandi's dad. I had it wrong. That's

1028
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 1: Brandis's dad right there. That's that's it. Black guy's doing real.

1029
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: It's the same guy. These are different videos. This is

1030
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: I think this is only when Elvis was a third

1031
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: degree black belt. Holy ship, dude, it is wild though.

1032
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: That Priscilla then is like, do you do you want

1033
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 1: me to do karate? I could do karate, And then

1034
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 1: that he's just like so pathetic. He really becomes like

1035
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: such a pathetic character.

1036
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 3: It's funny because this is actually so much more fascinating

1037
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,720
Speaker 3: than like the Heyday. It's sort of like this weird

1038
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 3: spiraling of like heak fame and having sycophants around and

1039
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 3: unlimited resources and like just creating like a similarchrum of

1040
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 3: like this thing where you're like a karate master and baller.

1041
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 4: Wow, wow, forty watt club in Memphis? Is it the

1042
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 4: forty watt the high tone? Sorry, the high Tone in

1043
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 4: Memphis which moved locations, but I did perform there once

1044
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 4: was the location of that dojo.

1045
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, the high tone move, but that was

1046
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,879
Speaker 1: that dojo. It was in like a strip mall right. Right,

1047
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: you say what you want about amphetamines, their proponents and

1048
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,720
Speaker 1: people who don't think they're great, But like you really

1049
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 1: can just see like a dividing line of his careers, right.

1050
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: He has this like Stratospheric Rise, goes away to the

1051
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,720
Speaker 1: army for two years, comes back and everything's just starts

1052
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: doing like all those movies that like people think suck

1053
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: shit and like has doesn't really he has some good

1054
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: later stuff, for sure, some of the recordings, but a

1055
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 1: lot of it is just you're like, oh, he recorded

1056
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 1: this like on his back in a lounge chair. But

1057
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: famous things about the Elvis Sandwich, people say the only

1058
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: thing in life he got any enjoyment out of was eating.

1059
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: In his twenties, he could eat eight cheeseburgers, two BLTs,

1060
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 1: and three milkshakes in a single sitting. And then his

1061
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: favorite sandwich was fried peanut butter and banana sandwiches, and

1062
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: sometimes there would be bacon thrown in. And then at

1063
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: one point while they were performing in Colorado, they went

1064
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: to this restaurant where they were introduced to the Fool's

1065
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: Gold Loaf, which is an entire loaf of Italian bread

1066
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: hollowed out and stuffed full of jars of peanut butter

1067
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: and jelly, plus a pound of bacon. And he would

1068
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: be able to take one of those down by himself.

1069
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: And one time they just like flew there. They were

1070
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: like bored and were like, let's fly, let's fly out there.

1071
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: They were always bored. Yeah, this is the most shit ever.

1072
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: Holy shit. You guys know about the Nixon photo where

1073
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: he's showed up to the White House with a revolver

1074
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: and was basically like, I want to be your drugs

1075
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: are he was on drugs?

1076
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 4: And yeah, made flying out of one. It was made

1077
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 4: an honorary dea agent while he was on you.

1078
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: And you get to bring a gun into the White House.

1079
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: I don't know what's Elvis bro. Priscilla plains that Elvis

1080
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: wasn't really applying to become a nark. He wanted a

1081
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: badge from the Federal Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs,

1082
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 1: which is the predecessor of the ATF, so that he

1083
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: could legally enter any country both wearing guns and carrying

1084
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: any drugs he wished. The way he went about it

1085
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,959
Speaker 1: not great. He was like, I'm gonna I'll fucking spy

1086
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: on I don't give a fuck. I'll spy on the Beatles,

1087
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,479
Speaker 1: I'll spy on the Black Panthers. Dude, just just get

1088
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: me in there.

1089
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 3: And you're back to being in your shipthead Era was okay,

1090
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 3: I just like that's just so funny. It's so transparent, Like, Bro,

1091
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 3: I need to get this badge so I can keep

1092
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 3: a gun on me in drugs and then you pull

1093
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 3: up sweating to the white Wait, drugs are man?

1094
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Like the most famous version of the picture

1095
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: is black and white. But he was like that outfit

1096
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 1: was purple is bright, purple cape.

1097
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 4: Part of this was written off by Elvis, like people

1098
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 4: wrote people were like Elvis because he was not educated.

1099
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 4: He thought truly that he was not on drugs because

1100
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 4: they were prescribing our prescription. He truly the whole time

1101
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 4: he was doing those drugs, drump, they were not drugs,

1102
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 4: even though he was like doing karate at two o'clock

1103
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 4: in the morning.

1104
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: Another Trump parallel, Yeah, yeah, and like shooting TVs. He

1105
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: was still like, you can't be the drugs because these

1106
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: are legal drugs. I'm on right, So that picture also

1107
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: he like still looks all right, you know, like he's

1108
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 1: not full swollen Elvis. That so that meeting happened in

1109
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy. By nineteen seventy seven the Jimmy Carter administration,

1110
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: Carter said that Elvis called the White House a lot

1111
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: during the last years of his life. He only spoke

1112
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: to him once and described Presley as totally stoned and

1113
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: almost incoherent. But he just call the White House.

1114
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 4: So think about that. Nineteen seventy he was like thirty

1115
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 4: eight years old, right something, No, less, he was thirty five.

1116
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: He was thirty five. Yeah, it looks like he looks

1117
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 1: like he's fifty five. Yeah, he looked horrible. All right,

1118
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: Let's talk about his death. You know, he got into

1119
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: amphetamines in the Army, then opioids in the sixties. Found

1120
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: this guy, doctor Nick, who gets a lot of, you know,

1121
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 1: the attention for having prescribed him with insane amounts of drugs.

1122
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 1: He traveled with three suitcases full of drugs for himself

1123
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 1: and his entourage. Doctor Nick described the drug regimen that

1124
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: Elvis followed a week before a concert, which included six

1125
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty pills twenty cubic centimeters of central nervous

1126
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: system depressants, stimulants, and painkillers. Twice during nineteen seventy three,

1127
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: this is four years before he died, He overdosed on barbituates,

1128
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 1: spent three days in a coma in his hotel suite.

1129
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: At one point wow, and you know, just like standard

1130
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 1: famous people shit, but like the people around him were

1131
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 1: both like, fuck, we don't want this to come out,

1132
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: but also like you push back on him at all

1133
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 1: and he's like, well, then you're fired, and they're like, ah,

1134
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. Man.

1135
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 4: During that overdose, Colonel Tom Parker just had them fucking

1136
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 4: dunking his head in ice water and saying he had

1137
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 4: to be on stage by Tuesday or whatever. It was

1138
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 4: like they, especially Colonel Tom Parker, did not give a

1139
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 4: shit whether he was well.

1140
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 1: He just just one of them.

1141
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 4: Colonel Tom Parker did not like music. He did not

1142
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 4: like what Elvis did. He said he had no idea

1143
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 4: whether it was good or bad. He just knew from

1144
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 4: the reaction when he first met him that he had

1145
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 4: to get involved, right, which looked at the audience. Yeah,

1146
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 4: he actually said, I have no idea whether what he

1147
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 4: does is good or bad. I just saw the potential

1148
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 4: for a draw.

1149
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: I just blew me away. His career does like go

1150
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 1: wildly off the rails once you know, he gets back

1151
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 1: from the army and is on drugs and like Colonel

1152
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 1: Tom Parker, by the way, not a colonel in any

1153
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 1: sense of the way. He just like was given a

1154
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 1: the Southern States will give you that that moniker, and

1155
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: he was just like, I kind of like that. I'm

1156
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 1: gonna sign my name is that.

1157
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 3: But also that doctor Nick from the Simpsons is named

1158
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 3: after shit.

1159
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 1: I never thought of that.

1160
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 3: Just looked that up because there's my god, that Elvis

1161
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 3: shooting the TV like it was at no good and

1162
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 3: now doctor Nick.

1163
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 1: I was like doctor Nick.

1164
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 3: Simpsons Elvis are like, yeah, it's funny evening, Yep, it's

1165
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 3: after George nic Nicopolis doctor Nick.

1166
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: So he eventually doctor Nick, after Elvis died, was put

1167
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 1: on trial. Prosecutors showed that doctor Nick had prescribed Elvis

1168
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 1: more than nineteen thousand doses of narcotics, sedatives, and stimulants

1169
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 1: in the two years two and a half years before

1170
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 1: he died in nineteen seventy seven, and also worth noting

1171
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 1: he wasn't his only supplier. Like the day before he died,

1172
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 1: he went to the dentist with a toothache, but so

1173
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: his last twenty four hours alive because Chrisy mentioned earlier

1174
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 1: that like you would do karate demonstrations at two in

1175
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 1: the morning, I just want to read a couple of

1176
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 1: other things. Doctor Nick drops off just like a hockey

1177
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 1: bag full of drugs. He goes to the dentist to

1178
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 1: get more drugs. From the dentist. At four am, he

1179
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: called his cousin and his cousin's wife come play racquetball

1180
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 1: with him. Yeah, they played racquetball from four am to

1181
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: like five am. At seven am, he and his twenty

1182
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 1: year old fiance go to bed. At nine thirty he

1183
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 1: gets up to go to the bathroom, and then at

1184
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,479
Speaker 1: two pm she finally wakes up and finds him face

1185
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 1: down in the shag carpet in his bathroom, which is

1186
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 1: fucking gross that there's a carpet, shag carpet in his

1187
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: bathroom that's not near the toilet, is it. Yeah, you

1188
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 1: shouldn't have carpet in your bathroom.

1189
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 3: Shag carpet, shag carpet, no less, just roughly towel for her.

1190
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 1: I think one of the first things I knew about

1191
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 1: him was like that he died on the toilet, right right,

1192
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 1: So that is true. The theory went that he just

1193
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: died of a heart attack. Then once people found out

1194
01:03:58,200 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 1: how many drugs he was on, they were like, he

1195
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 1: did a drug overdose. There's also a theory that like

1196
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 1: the dentist had given him codeine I think, and he

1197
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 1: was like allergic to that, so that might have happened.

1198
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 1: But I think the medical consensus at this point is

1199
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: that he died of a heart attack due to basically

1200
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 1: have you ever seen one of those commercials for like

1201
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 1: the drugs they give people on opioids to be able

1202
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 1: to shit, Like, It'll show it'll show somebody like looking

1203
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 1: at like a soft serve machine.

1204
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 4: With envy cause constipation.

1205
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 1: Wait, there's a there's a commercial for this, Yeah, there's

1206
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 1: a commercial. I just remember being like, why are there

1207
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 1: suddenly all these commercials for like constipation? It was like

1208
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 1: during the opioid crisis, and it was it's because opioids

1209
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 1: caused massive constipation, and so he had been abusing opioids

1210
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 1: for years and years and years and years. So the

1211
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 1: assumption is he had like just savage constipation and he

1212
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 1: was on the toilet straining so hard that it put

1213
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: pressure on his heart and a were to and trigger

1214
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 1: the heart attack that killed him. So he did, which

1215
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 1: is I think back to what I originally had heard.

1216
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 1: The first version was the like he's strained too hard

1217
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 1: while he's taking a ship. That is, you know, it

1218
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 1: was related to years and years of drug abuse, but

1219
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: that he was so constipated that he died. We need folks, Yeah,

1220
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 1: you know, you need fiber not to be on. Don't

1221
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 1: push too hard. I pushed it fucking pools of opioids

1222
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 1: for years and years and years. You'll end up in

1223
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 1: the shack. Don't want to end up in the shack.

1224
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 1: Don't push too hard. No, no, and then just in death.

1225
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 1: I think this is another thing that is true of

1226
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 1: other celebrities, but like nobody as much as Elvis is

1227
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 1: just that like they're not allowed to stay dead. Like

1228
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 1: everybody was immediately like, no, he's not dead. There became

1229
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 1: like a cottage industry of people coming up with conspiracy

1230
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 1: theories about him basically still being alive. There was a

1231
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: woman who like created a recording career for this guy

1232
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 1: O'Ryan kind of looked like Elvis, and then like he

1233
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 1: released an album on the same day that she released

1234
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 1: a you know, conspiracy conspiracy theory book about like Elvis

1235
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 1: still being alive, and people kind of point out that again,

1236
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 1: this is another way that like Elvis is connected to

1237
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 1: MAGA in like the whole QAnon thing where they just

1238
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 1: like wouldn't let where they would be like JFK Junior

1239
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 1: is coming back, and like they were kind of obsessed

1240
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 1: with that. It does all like seem to be linked

1241
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 1: in a weird way, right right.

1242
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 3: I love how people are like, I don't know, dude,

1243
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 3: I just saw him seeing Unchained Melody and he seemed

1244
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 3: pretty good.

1245
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 1: Because that's like.

1246
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 3: The one thing that's like the one Elvis performance I

1247
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 3: have looked at because I remember even my dad was

1248
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 3: like that was some wild shit. Like the last Elvis

1249
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 3: performance of Unchained Melody where he's.

1250
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 1: Just drenched in sweat singing Unshaan Melody and.

1251
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 3: Like kind of Swan song in a way where you're like, oh,

1252
01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 3: like you're it feels I don't know, in this weird

1253
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 3: way when I saw it, even not really knowing anything

1254
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 3: about him, like oh, this feels like someone's final performance, right,

1255
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 3: like in this weird way where it's like it seemed tragic,

1256
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 3: but also like he was giving it everything.

1257
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, he looked like psychotic and that I mean he was.

1258
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 4: He was singing so hard. I mean, I think Elvis

1259
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 4: was like, you know, he was doing his best in

1260
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 4: some horrible you know, he's things had gone completely off

1261
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 4: the rails, but he considered like his performance to be

1262
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 4: his thing, like he was still trying to.

1263
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, da all he would like still perform as he

1264
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 1: was like dying. Yeah, he felt like.

1265
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 4: He was trying to give people their money's worth. He

1266
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 4: didn't have anything else, you know. I mean it was

1267
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 4: like that was the only thing left for him, Like

1268
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 4: that was like a traceable thing for him, probably of

1269
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 4: his self worth. I mean he's like, why is this happening?

1270
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 4: It's like the only thing I used to it's connected

1271
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 4: to singing. I guess, so that last performance he's just

1272
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 4: going off, like in a way where it's like you're

1273
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 4: not supposed to even be getting that much meaning. Even

1274
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 4: a good singer doesn't go off, you know what I mean.

1275
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 4: Like he was just like trying to get as much

1276
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 4: meaning out of unschained melody too much.

1277
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, tried too much. Close to the son, he

1278
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 1: so sad. Yeah, he looked so sad and desperate.

1279
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 3: You know, I'm just reading a quote from like in

1280
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 3: a documentary of Priscilla, Presley said that quote.

1281
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 1: Those last shows were not the most memorable as far

1282
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 1: as performance. Sometimes you didn't get through a song. I

1283
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 1: think the last year he was pretty much over. I

1284
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 1: don't even know why he went on stage. They're just

1285
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 1: hard to watch sometimes. I think it was maybe this

1286
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:27,440
Speaker 1: song have You Ever Been to Spain? Which is actually.

1287
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Speaker 4: A Hoyd Axton song, but Hoyd actual wrote Joy to

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01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 4: the World that Jeremiah was a Bullfrog song for Three

1289
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Speaker 4: Dog Night. He wrote a bunch of hits for Three

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Speaker 4: Dog Night and three Dog Knight had a hit with

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01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 4: had Never Been to Spain? But Elvis's version of I've

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01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 4: Never Been to Spain, which is on like all the

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Speaker 4: streaming services shows that. You know, he had a great

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01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 4: band and stuff and and and and and there were

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01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 4: moments where I think he had some artistic value.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I mean that the Suspicious Minds song

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Speaker 1: is fucking good, and that's from like after It's from

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Speaker 1: like kind of the later part of his was just

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01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 1: like so a nova baby, I recommend. Yeah, there's some

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01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 1: good stuff from later in the career. He had a

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01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 1: really great voice, but he was also just like, you know,

1302
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 1: didn't really have anyone overall like taking care of like

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01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 1: the vision for his career at that point, other than

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Speaker 1: Colonel Tom Parker, who was, yeah, Colonel Tom Parker.

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Speaker 4: Man. He was like I was looking at these interviews

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Speaker 4: on YouTube of his entourage talking about Colonel Tom Parker,

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01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 4: and they're very sad because the entourage, as much as

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01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 4: they knew he was gonna die sort of, they all

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01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 4: loved him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they lived twenty four hours a day with him.

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Speaker 4: They got up out of bed when he wanted to

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Speaker 4: do karate, They rode around in his stupid golf cart.

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Speaker 4: I mean, of course they were all like just basically

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01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 4: sex criminals around for the that's why they were there.

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01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 4: That's why they were there. But they were so sad

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01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 4: when he went away for a bunch of reasons, including

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01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 4: no more sex for them. But they said Colonel Tom Parker,

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01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 4: they just talk about how what a nightmare person he

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01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 4: was all around. And one of the things that they say,

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01:09:57,520 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 4: that's so fucking funny, which I know isn't Elvis, But

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01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 4: I just when I was thinking about this show and

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01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 4: you guys asked me to do the show, I was like,

1323
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 4: I gotta tell his stories. It's so fucking funny. Carl

1324
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 4: Tom Parker was addicted to gambling. Addicted, he gambled. All

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Speaker 4: he did was he basically just put Elvis on stage.

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01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:13,640
Speaker 4: As soon as he got the money, he would just

1327
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Speaker 4: go directly to the gaming table. So that's why he

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01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 4: liked him performing in Las Vegas too, where he didn't

1329
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:19,560
Speaker 4: like him a tour because he wanted to be in

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Speaker 4: Las Vegas. Colonel Tom Parker lived to gamble, and so

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01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 4: one of the Entourage guys was like the thing with

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Speaker 4: Tom Parker is I just got to tell you guys,

1333
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:29,640
Speaker 4: And I don't know if I've ever told anybody this,

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Speaker 4: but I don't think he understood how to even gamble.

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01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:36,800
Speaker 4: He's like, I would go downstairs. So he's like, I

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01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 4: went down I went downstairs at two in the morning.

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01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:41,719
Speaker 4: He's got he's at the Wheel of Fortune. He's like, which,

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01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:43,839
Speaker 4: first of all is the worst odds in the whole casino.

1339
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Speaker 4: And that was Colonel Tom Parker's favorite game. But he

1340
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 4: had a bet on every number and then he would win.

1341
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 1: And we lost every other bet.

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01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,600
Speaker 4: And he was like, I don't think he even understood

1343
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:01,679
Speaker 4: how to amble, and it was all he did.

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Speaker 1: Oh, so he would just spread it out across every poss.

1345
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:07,679
Speaker 4: Entire stand that you didn't win if you have money

1346
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:08,639
Speaker 4: on every number.

1347
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 1: So he goes to the thing he's a roulette table,

1348
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 1: red and black.

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01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was just incredible because he's like, you know,

1350
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Speaker 4: he kind of told every story about Colonel Tom Parker

1351
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 4: and then he was just like, oh, and I forgot

1352
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 4: one thing.

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01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 1: A guy lived to gamble and he didn't even know how. Yeah.

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01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 1: I just thought that was incredible.

1355
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:24,640
Speaker 4: I mean, there was no limit to how much that

1356
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 4: they hated Tom Parker because he gambled away all his money.

1357
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 1: And he also, you know, he didn't give a shit

1358
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 1: if Elvis was alive or dead.

1359
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 4: Really, he wanted him alive for money, but he didn't

1360
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 4: care about personally about Elvis at all.

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01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 1: I will say I said that he wasn't in the military.

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01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:42,639
Speaker 1: He did have a short stint in the military. Colonel

1363
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 1: Tom Parker briefly went a wall and was thrown into

1364
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 1: prison and spent time on Walter Reed Medical Center under

1365
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 1: psychiatric care for being a quote psychopath. Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was from Norway.

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Speaker 4: He allegedly killed the person in his home town and

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Speaker 4: like fled to America.

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Speaker 1: And that's why they're Dutch. Yeah, one of those where'd

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Speaker 1: I say it was from Norway? We can't have this

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Speaker 1: episode be so American? Was he from Norland? Listen? That's

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Speaker 1: I take responsibility for that. I'm the American. I feel

1373
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 1: like that that is a thing you see with like

1374
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 1: genuinely talented people then like have one certifiable psycho around

1375
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:22,799
Speaker 1: them to like cut through the business side of things,

1376
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 1: but then you know, they end up fucking fucking up

1377
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:28,679
Speaker 1: entire careers.

1378
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Speaker 4: And last thing one mile from me, one mile from

1379
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:36,640
Speaker 4: me right now up Gallatin Road in Nashville, Tennessee, is

1380
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 4: a car wash that sits on the site of Colonel

1381
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Speaker 4: Tom Parker's house, which was this like very middle class

1382
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 4: looking house right on this like major thoroughfare in East Nashville,

1383
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 4: in Madison, Tennessee, actually, but just right up.

1384
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:51,679
Speaker 1: Up the road.

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01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 4: And uh, anyway, he ran he created the Elvis Empire

1386
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 4: out of a finished basement below that house with a

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01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 4: phone him a rolodex, and he ran the merch out

1388
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 4: of a shed in the backyard. And that building's gone now,

1389
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 4: got torn down like ten years ago, and some guy

1390
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 4: tore out the whole basement like to try and build

1391
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 4: a museum out of it, like out of the paneling.

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01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 1: But I haven't heard word on that. But I'll get

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01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 1: back to you guys. Yeah, yeah, check back in the reporting.

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01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding either.

1395
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 4: Some guy like bought the basement. He's like, you guys

1396
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 4: are tearing down Colonel Tom Parker's house. That basement is historic.

1397
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:28,480
Speaker 4: That's where he made all the phone calls, right and

1398
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:30,680
Speaker 4: took all the But then I haven't heard where he's

1399
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 4: put the basement. I think it's probably just in a pile.

1400
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 4: You know, everybody makes plans.

1401
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 1: It's at his psychopath alter that he's created. Yeah. Yeah,

1402
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:39,759
Speaker 1: his wife's like, what the fuck is this pile of shit?

1403
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 1: That's Colonel Tom Parker's basement paneling. This is what this

1404
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 1: is goodwood paneling.

1405
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 4: Babe, I'm getting a divorce. Get the fuck out of

1406
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 4: my house. Take your whatever that is with you.

1407
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 1: Oh great, Like I got all the material I need

1408
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 1: to build a new house. No matter, I'll just build them.

1409
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:59,600
Speaker 1: I'll live in this museum. Also, just going back to

1410
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 1: the last episode that we recorded together, one of the

1411
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:07,600
Speaker 1: most famous Elvis is Still Alive rumors was that he

1412
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,599
Speaker 1: appeared in the background of Home Alone. There's a guy

1413
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 1: in the background when she's like got fighting to get

1414
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 1: on a plane. There's a guy in a turtleneck who

1415
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 1: looks kind of like a older Elvis, And everyone was like, see, yeah,

1416
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:23,599
Speaker 1: he's got to still be alive. It's that in orson

1417
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 1: wells Ish. I don't know who that is, but yeah, okay, they.

1418
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 4: Did that with Jim Morrison. To remember, Jim Morrison was

1419
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:30,639
Speaker 4: supposed to have gone to Africa.

1420
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, wait, wait, there's pictures of Jim Morrison. Like

1421
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 1: they found some guy like it's Jim Morrison.

1422
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 4: They just said he faked his death and he was

1423
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 4: living in Africa, like, and they were saying that was

1424
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 4: like a whole there was just a big industry, and

1425
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:44,680
Speaker 4: then they'd sell paperback books off of it. So I

1426
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 4: went to this place called McKay's in Nashville to look

1427
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 4: for Christmas presents, and they have all those old paperbacks

1428
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:53,799
Speaker 4: and one of them was the Elvis Tapes.

1429
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 1: And it was this.

1430
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:57,600
Speaker 4: Paperback book that you could buy at the supermarket that

1431
01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 4: was like, we have a tape that Elvis. It was

1432
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 4: a book that transcribed the tape. That's what you could sell,

1433
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 4: a transcription of an audio tape.

1434
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 1: It was allegedly of Elvis. You could sell that as

1435
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 1: a book.

1436
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 4: And that's why I'm broke, because you can't do shit

1437
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 4: like that anymore, I know. And I want to buy

1438
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 4: that book, the Elvis Tapes for somebody, but I realized

1439
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 4: nobody wants that.

1440
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:19,719
Speaker 1: Was it like supposed to be a recording of Elvis

1441
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 1: after his death. Yeah, there was a transcription of it.

1442
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 1: You couldn't use. You like to see some of the

1443
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 1: early like post truth shit in the Elvis thing, like

1444
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 1: Herado Rivera did a twenty twenty called the Elvis cover Up,

1445
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 1: but it was just about the like cover up of

1446
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 1: all the prescription drugs that he was abusing. But the

1447
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:41,759
Speaker 1: people who were still making money off the Elvis lifts

1448
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 1: industry started claiming that that show was about evidence that

1449
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 1: his death was faked and covered up, and it's just

1450
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 1: like this infuriating like Herado Rivera will like have them

1451
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:53,799
Speaker 1: on a show later and was like, what the fucking

1452
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 1: talk Like, it's clearly not about that, but they just

1453
01:15:57,200 --> 01:16:01,879
Speaker 1: kept sending on like Oprah and Larry King and.

1454
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, sh it used to be cute before it was

1455
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:09,520
Speaker 4: about stolen elections, right well, I miss those cute conspiracy

1456
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 4: theory theories.

1457
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 1: God, I miss them, don't we That's that's been Elvis guys.

1458
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 1: Anything anything to add I don't know. I mean, I dude,

1459
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 1: I just found Thank you, Chris.

1460
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 3: I found a fucking fifty minute video of Elvis doing

1461
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 3: karate in nineteen seventy four, and I am going to

1462
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 3: watch the full Welcome this because it's.

1463
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 1: You're welcome, my apologies to your wife. That's a great

1464
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 1: thing to have on. Just like in the background, it's freaking.

1465
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 4: Me out, dude, Like, if you want a nineteen seventies divorce,

1466
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 4: I can help you. The screaming and the scream is

1467
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:42,600
Speaker 4: what we call a kiyok It's a way of generating

1468
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:43,680
Speaker 4: more power.

1469
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:46,679
Speaker 1: Just hearing these voices tell me about Elvis.

1470
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 4: Elvis standing there in a stupor while this guy fake

1471
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 4: punches him, and Elvis like, Elvis, yeah, artist thing, Yeah

1472
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 4: totally probably was hard from all the ship that was

1473
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 4: in there. Eventually, God, Elvis is so lucky at that

1474
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 4: gas station that those guys were impressed, because if he

1475
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 4: actually had to fight, he would have had a rude awakening.

1476
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 1: Could you imagine like that would have been so amazing

1477
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:12,479
Speaker 1: if he ever got into a fight.

1478
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 4: Yes, And then he goes home and he's like, have

1479
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 4: you guys been fucking lying to me?

1480
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 1: I tried all that ship and no one went flying.

1481
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 1: Everyone just stood there. I said, Katti, chop the gas pumping.

1482
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 1: I pushed me in the stomach and it actually hurt,

1483
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 1: fucking hurt.

1484
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:31,519
Speaker 4: I was like, this guy's got fucking brass knuckles on her.

1485
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:33,720
Speaker 4: I was karate chopping the fence, try and break off

1486
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 4: a piece to attack them with, and I broke.

1487
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 1: My fucking hand right away.

1488
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 4: How do I break the fences at the at Graceland

1489
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 4: so easily?

1490
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 1: Well, they're made of crackers. King Well, Chris Croft is

1491
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 1: such a pleasure having you as always. Where can people

1492
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 1: find you follow you all that can.

1493
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 4: I'm going to get things restarted on Holbrew got me

1494
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 4: like I really have had I'm sorry you guys. I've

1495
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 4: had a had a rough fall, I really have, and

1496
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 4: I just got overwhelmed.

1497
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 1: So I just took a break. I had to. I

1498
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 1: just couldn't do it.

1499
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 4: So so we've had a couple of months off, but

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Speaker 4: we'll be back and you can in the meantime, you

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Speaker 4: can you can read my Advice King column at Nashville

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Speaker 4: Scene dot com.

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Speaker 1: Or you can just follow my Instagram or whatever. You know.

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01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:20,560
Speaker 1: It's follow my Instagram. That's where I put most of

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01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 1: my stuff. Tennessee's very own. Thank you, Thank you, Miles.

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Speaker 1: We can people find you Haley's Eitgeist. Ain't a footing

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Speaker 1: those the other check those out. All right? That is

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Speaker 1: gonna do it. I will be back after this with

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Speaker 1: some final thoughts and my no no, no, no no

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Speaker 1: book dump, and I will talk to you all in

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Speaker 1: a minute. All right. That was my conversation with Miles

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Speaker 1: and Chris Crofton about Elvis Presley. Thanks to Dave Ruse

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Speaker 1: for the research on this one. And here's some stuff

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Speaker 1: I missed. This is my no no, no no note book,

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Speaker 1: don't We mentioned Priscilla's affair with her karate instructor, Mike Stone,

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Speaker 1: which I should be clear by the way, Elvis was

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01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 1: constantly having affairs during their relationship, affairs that were written

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01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 1: about in the papers, and she was just stuck back

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01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:20,639
Speaker 1: at Graceland just like reading about all these famous women

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01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 1: he was fucking, essentially, so she took karate because she

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01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:28,719
Speaker 1: saw I was impressive to this like manchild, and eventually

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01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 1: found herself impressed by her instructor, who could presumably actually

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Speaker 1: do karate again. Go back and look at some of

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01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 1: the videos of Elvis as karate displays, and you might

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01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 1: see a contrast with that concept. But there's a story

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01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 1: from around this time that I really wish I hadn't

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01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 1: forgotten to tell Miles and Chris about when Elvis was

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01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:56,639
Speaker 1: on stage out of his mind, lost in the has sauce,

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01:19:57,280 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 1: and some fans rushed the stage and he became convinced

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Speaker 1: that those fans were contracted hitmen sent by Mike Stone.

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01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 1: Elvis was up for like three days straight just in

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Speaker 1: a rage, to the point that one of his entourage,

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Speaker 1: one of the Memphis Mafia, eventually looked into putting out

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Speaker 1: a hit on Mike Stone and like came to him

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Speaker 1: and was like, all right, I found the guy. But

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Speaker 1: by the time he got to that stage, Elvis had

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01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 1: like kind of calmed down and said, maybe it's a

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01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 1: little heavy. Let us hit for a while, which that

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01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 1: part kind of reminded me of the person the Graceland

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01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 1: Museum curator saying he shot out things on a random basis,

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01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:50,679
Speaker 1: Like he wasn't like it turns out I was wrong

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Speaker 1: about those fans who rushed the stage being ninja assassins.

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01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 1: He was just like, I don't know if it's exactly

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01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:02,479
Speaker 1: my vibe to strike back against those ninja assassins who

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01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:07,479
Speaker 1: came after me. So just amazing, amazing testament to just

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01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 1: this weird psychological experiment of being the most famous person

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01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 1: on earth and never interacting with anybody who wasn't, you know,

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Speaker 1: part of your entourage for like years and years and years.

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Speaker 1: On the Nixon encounter, there's this joke by Jack Handy

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01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 1: that I think a good gift for the President would

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01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 1: be a chocolate revolver, and since he's so busy, you'd

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01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 1: probably have to run up real quick and hand it

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01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 1: to him. And that's essentially what Elvis did, but with

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01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:41,800
Speaker 1: a real gun, and he got away with it while

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Speaker 1: wearing a big purple cape. The Ray Charles interview that

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Speaker 1: Chris brought up is great worth watching Ray Charles and

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01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 1: Bob Costas talking about Elvis. Ray Charles points out that

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Speaker 1: you know, black artists had been doing the dancing and

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01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:58,679
Speaker 1: the type of music Elvis had been doing for years.

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Speaker 1: And I will say Elvis came by the influences. Honestly.

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01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 1: He grew up so poor that he grew up around

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Speaker 1: black families. He went to integrated churches. But I think

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01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:17,600
Speaker 1: that double standard also applies to the sexual charisma we

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01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:21,639
Speaker 1: spent spent a lot of time talking about especially applies

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01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 1: to the sexual charisma. Even I don't know that Ray

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Speaker 1: Charles was in the best position to appreciate just how

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01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 1: hot Elvis was being blind, but in the interview he

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Speaker 1: points out. Ray Charles points out that he was like

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Speaker 1: Elvis made people swoon, and so did Nat King Cole,

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Speaker 1: and they kicked him out of Alabama for making women swoon.

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01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 1: And I think that was an important part of like

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Speaker 1: Elvis being able to get away with what he got

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Speaker 1: away with. I was watching a performance by Little Richard

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Speaker 1: that I think was before Elvis broke, where little rich

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Speaker 1: like playing the piano and dancing. There's a bunch of

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Speaker 1: goofy white teenagers dancing like absolute shit behind him. But

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Speaker 1: little Richard at one point puts his leg up on

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Speaker 1: his piano and is like playing the piano, well, just

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01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 1: like showing off his stroke game. And I feel like

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Speaker 1: white people must have seen that, seen a black artist

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01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:26,439
Speaker 1: displaying unrestrained sexuality, and just been like, all right, well

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01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:29,760
Speaker 1: we'll let a white one do it, you know, Like

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01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 1: I don't think it was a plan, but it was

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01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 1: just the dynamic that Elvis by default took advantage of.

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01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:40,599
Speaker 1: Like he was dangerous, but he was a safer version

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Speaker 1: of dangerous for a white supremacist. Leave it to beaver

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Speaker 1: ass country, safer as long as you weren't a girl

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01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 1: in ninth grade, I guess. And then just with all

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Speaker 1: the echoes of Trump in this episode, it did make

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01:23:57,160 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 1: me kind of wish that though white working class version

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01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 1: of masculinity had incorporated more of the early Elvis, because like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, you compare that to their current god,

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01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:16,679
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, where you know, the stereotypical Trump Trump supporter

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01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:22,759
Speaker 1: is this sort of depressing, depressed in cell type person.

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01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:26,560
Speaker 1: Not all Trump supporters, but you know, that's kind of

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01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:29,680
Speaker 1: what the general vibe is there. And it's kind of

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01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 1: surreal to see this off ramp where they could have

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01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 1: gotten over themselves and just like learned to dance with

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Speaker 1: some goddamn honey in their hips, to quote Miles. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: interesting episode, that's going to be it. We're off next week,

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Speaker 1: but the following Monday, we are going from Elvis, someone

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01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:54,800
Speaker 1: who by the way, was blonde and dyed his hair

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01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:58,320
Speaker 1: jet black, to someone who was a brunette and turned

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01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:01,720
Speaker 1: themselves into the Quintus Central Blonde. We're looking at the

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Speaker 1: amazing life the mysterious death of Marilyn Mama, and we

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Speaker 1: will talk to y'all in a couple of weeks. Bye.