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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Welcome to the show. It's a big one

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Speaker 1: with the game against the Broncos coming up in three

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Speaker 1: days at NRG Stadium, a noonkick as hot Denver comes

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Speaker 1: into town first place in the AFC West. This is

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Speaker 1: after the NFC West first place team tied for first

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Speaker 1: anyway at the time, came in here and the Texans

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Speaker 1: took care of business. So we'll see altogether what happens

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. It'll be live here at noon. Mark Vandermain

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Speaker 1: and John Harris with you, joined by the Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame writer John McClain, the general in the house. So John,

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Speaker 1: let's start out here your thoughts on what it's going

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Speaker 1: to take to knock off the Broncos, who I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna call them a big surprise necessarily, but I guess

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Speaker 1: it is that they lead the division and have done

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Speaker 1: so well overall against the competition they faced at the

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Speaker 1: midway point of the season. Well for them, it's coming

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Speaker 1: up at halftime Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts. Good evening, Good evening.

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Speaker 3: They just pounded the Cowboys, which is good. Of course,

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Speaker 3: they've been scoring a whole lot of points in the

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Speaker 3: last five quarters. That miraculous come back two weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: I think it was against the Giants, and then in

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Speaker 3: a way, they just obliterated Dallas, and I think this

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Speaker 3: is one of the biggest games we've seen in regular

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Speaker 3: season that did not mean clinching the playoffs, because if

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Speaker 3: they win this game, that would give them four out

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Speaker 3: of five, and then they host Jacksonville, and I think,

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Speaker 3: no matter what happens here, they're going to beat Jacksonville.

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Speaker 3: Then they're going to go to Tennessee. Might be depleted

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Speaker 3: because of the trade deadline, but it wouldn't matter. They're

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Speaker 3: going to beat Tennessee. So if they could win this game,

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Speaker 3: then I think they they're going to win the next two.

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Speaker 3: And I know Tamiko Ryans hates said when you look ahead,

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Speaker 3: but that's what fans do, and everybody's looking at this

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Speaker 3: game and the next two. Now, the fact is they

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Speaker 3: beat the forty nine Ers. Forty nine Ers defense was

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Speaker 3: missing a lot of key players, just like the Texans

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Speaker 3: offense was missing a lot of key players, and they

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Speaker 3: beat the Ravens whose defense was decimated. Now they're going

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Speaker 3: against the defense that leads the NFL in sacks with

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Speaker 3: thirty six and is allowed the fewest with eight that's

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Speaker 3: the first time I think I read in history that

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Speaker 3: after eight games a team had done that. Indianapolis has

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Speaker 3: allowed one more, and you know, the Texans have allowed

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Speaker 3: what fifteen and they have sixteen. Well, the Broncos have

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Speaker 3: thirty six sacks led the NFL last year Advance Joseph

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Speaker 3: boy At some point, Vance is on the verge of

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Speaker 3: being fired and now he has turned it around and

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Speaker 3: he is doing a great coaching job. So if the

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Speaker 3: Texans win this game, they're certainly capable of winning it.

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Speaker 3: If they do, they're going to get so much positive

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Speaker 3: feedback locally and nationally. And they still have those two

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Speaker 3: games left for the Calls, who play at Pittsburgh, which

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Speaker 3: to me has been a big disappointment. More money spent

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Speaker 3: on their defense than any in the league, and there's

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Speaker 3: nothing special about the Steelers defense. But the fact is

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Speaker 3: this is a big game. If they win it, it

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Speaker 3: could turn around their season.

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Speaker 4: But there is something special about Broncos quarterback Bo Knicks

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Speaker 4: general In the fourth quarter against the Giants, they put

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Speaker 4: up thirty three. Last week against the Cowboys, they put

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Speaker 4: up forty four. That's seventy seven points in five quarters.

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Speaker 4: That projected over a full game is sixty points a game. Yes,

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Speaker 4: the Cowboys have a sieve for a defense. The Giants'

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Speaker 4: front front is pretty good and shut them out for

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Speaker 4: three quarters. What are your thoughts about bo Knicks as

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Speaker 4: kind of the next level guy being how good he

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Speaker 4: is now versus where you thought he might be. What

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Speaker 4: are your thoughts about bo Knicks coming in on Sunday?

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Speaker 3: Well, I just mentioned about the Broncos leaguing the league

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Speaker 3: in sacks and fewest sacks allowed. Detexans have a pretty

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Speaker 3: good double going there themselves. They've allowed the fewest points

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Speaker 3: per game and they're number one in defense. So I

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Speaker 3: don't know that bow Knicks has gone up against a

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Speaker 3: too about Drake May Drake May this, Drake May that.

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Speaker 3: How come we're not earn more about bow Knicks. Bo

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Speaker 3: Nicks has played great too. He's he can run, he

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Speaker 3: can throw, He fens perfectly. In Sean Payton's offense, they

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Speaker 3: run the run the ball well. They're tied for third

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Speaker 3: in rushing and their defense is certainly not chevy. All

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Speaker 3: those sacks have helped them ranked fifth overall, tenth against

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Speaker 3: this would be a defensive oriented game.

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Speaker 5: I think the.

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Speaker 3: Key for the Texans, if you can shut down Christian McCaffrey,

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Speaker 3: were outstanding against McCaffrey, and the next key is the

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Speaker 3: Texans have to do a better job scoring in the

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Speaker 3: red zone. They were terribly against the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 3: They beat up the Niners so bad that game should

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Speaker 3: not have been close, but getting down close to the

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Speaker 3: go line and Kami Fairbarah kicking four field goals was

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Speaker 3: not good. I don't think they could do it against

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Speaker 5: You know, CJ.

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Speaker 3: Stroud, great game, offensive line, all the pass protectors, great game,

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Speaker 3: but boy, it hurts when you can't run the ball

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Speaker 3: in close and they've only got three rushing touchdowns or

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Speaker 3: one good day, which equals one good day for Jonathan

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Speaker 3: Taylor who's had three and three games. So I think

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Speaker 3: the red zone, of course, shutting down a running game,

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Speaker 1: So, John, when you look at CJ. Stroud, you mentioned

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Speaker 1: not being as good as they needed to be in

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Speaker 1: Last week, they did what they needed to beat the

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Speaker 2: Ers, but overall that felt like a.

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Speaker 1: Basketball player having a twenty five to thirty point game.

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Speaker 1: What did you make of it? Where's it going from here?

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Speaker 1: With he and this offense?

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Speaker 3: Well, I also think you know, they put forty four

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Speaker 3: so comfortable. He had two or three passes that were

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Speaker 3: just great, I mean great throws. I think if that

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Speaker 3: But Stroud just looked so much more confident, and he

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Speaker 5: Now, they got rid of the ball quick. That is

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Speaker 3: If you had the Broncos backfoot hits the ground, don't

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Speaker 3: hold it, get it out. And we got to see

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Speaker 3: the young guys make I didn't know Xavier Hudsons and

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Speaker 3: way he did on his thirty yard touchdown. They had

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Speaker 3: those big plays. You know, Chunk plays what he marks,

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Speaker 3: twenty three yard run, fifty yard catch, Xavior had a

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Speaker 3: thirty yard touchdown. They looked like a big play offense.

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Speaker 3: And they did it without Nico and Nikom's back, and

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Speaker 3: obviously he's starting going to be the main receiver. If

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Speaker 3: Christian Kirk was back. I still rather see Jalen Knowle.

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Speaker 3: Nola's a slight receiver, because that kid has big play capability.

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Speaker 3: And we have to mention a player who did really

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Speaker 3: well before he got hurt, Braxton Barrios, including a great

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Speaker 3: third down catch. Seeing Stroud spread the ball to all

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Speaker 3: those receivers was a thing of beauty because he got

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Speaker 3: it out quick, and he got it out confidently, and

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Speaker 3: it just seemed that his confidence grew as the game

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Speaker 4: General, it appears that Patrick's ten to second will not

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Speaker 4: play in this game, and you just mentioned it. Nico

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Speaker 4: and Christian hopefully will be back in this game for

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Speaker 4: the Texans. As you look at that difference, they lose,

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Speaker 4: Sir Tan, Texans get back potentially Nico and Kirk.

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Speaker 6: What do you think it means?

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Speaker 4: On top of what they did against the forty nine

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Speaker 4: ers to get those two back, But no Cirtan on

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Speaker 3: Obviously, that'd be like taking out Derek Stanley Jr. It

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Speaker 3: would be a huge blow and leave a hole.

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Speaker 5: In the defense.

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Speaker 3: He's the defending NFL Defensive Player of the Year and

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Speaker 3: certain was playing great. But not one player is going

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Speaker 3: to cost you. Look at Niko, he was out Sunday

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Speaker 3: and they beat the pants off the forty nine ers

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Speaker 3: without him, and a lot of receivers made big plays.

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Speaker 3: I'd still rather see Jalen Noel and Christian Kirk. Kirk's

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Speaker 3: been hurt a lot. I don't think he's going to

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Speaker 3: the ball. But they're gonna have to double Niko. They

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Speaker 3: can't put cirtin on him and have him got him

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Speaker 3: they use Stanley was Courtland Sutton because their receivers have

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Speaker 3: stepped up for the Broncos, but and they's been scoring

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Speaker 3: a lot of points, but there's still a defensive team

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Speaker 1: John It's a surprise to me that Dobbins is who

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Speaker 1: he is to the Broncos this year, considering they signed

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Speaker 1: him June eleventh. I mean they waited a long time.

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Speaker 1: He was coming off the injury with the Chargers. You know,

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Speaker 1: Chubb for less than half the money that Dobbins signed

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Speaker 1: with the Broncos for. And I don't know what the

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Speaker 2: I didn't even want to go there.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, what a surprise it is that they

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Speaker 1: kind of take a flyer of sorts on and now

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Speaker 1: he's this bell cow again for this team in this

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Speaker 1: particular season leading the West thoughts JK.

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Speaker 3: Dobbins from just down the road, Lagrange, and that kid

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Speaker 3: has had two major injuries and he's come back from

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Speaker 5: That's amazing.

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Speaker 3: He's still a breakaway threat with a big average per carry,

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Speaker 3: and he's one of those guys capable of big plate

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Speaker 3: great move by their personnel department. Sean Payton has finals

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Speaker 3: say on everything, and they had no idea he was

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Speaker 3: give him a chance, and that has worked out great.

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Speaker 5: I'm happy for him.

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Speaker 3: Because of all the difficulties he's overcome physically and.

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Speaker 5: It was a.

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Speaker 3: Smooth move by them. And the Texans have played against

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Speaker 3: him before. They know they have to contain a running

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Speaker 3: game that's tied for third in the NFL and it's

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Speaker 3: led by JK.

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Speaker 5: Dobbins.

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Speaker 4: General Sean Payton, head coach at Denver Broncos. I don't

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Speaker 4: really know anyway or asked this question other than what's

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Speaker 4: been the impact that he has brought to that organization?

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Speaker 4: What have you seen from Afar and what has he done?

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Speaker 4: Knowing what he did with the Saints, are you surprised

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Speaker 4: at all that Denver is in the position that they

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Speaker 4: are right now just three years into his run in Denver.

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Speaker 3: We kind of forget or overlooked the fact he was

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Speaker 3: the first coach interviewed by the Texans when they hired Jamaica,

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Speaker 5: What's they got?

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Speaker 3: Fire events Joseph and they stayed the course and he

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Speaker 2: What's the jam Peyton?

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Speaker 1: Do you think that the Broncos, no matter what happens

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Speaker 2: Of the West.

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Speaker 1: Here the Chiefs are five and three, playing the Bills

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Speaker 5: What do you think I think the Chiefs?

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Speaker 3: The Chiefs are gonna win the division. I don't think

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Speaker 5: You know they are.

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Speaker 3: Buffalo has owned them in regular season and they have

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Speaker 5: Again.

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Speaker 3: I love watching these teams get together, but I do

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Speaker 4: The Ravens are two and five, yet they are the

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Speaker 4: I believe something along those lines, three and five, whatever

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Speaker 3: Absolutely I would. And what I'm trying to figure out

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Speaker 5: And Hundley, remember one year, actually went to the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Replacement, but he did play well. Signdee Jackson's back. They

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Speaker 3: I think they're gonna win the division. Steelers are four

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Speaker 3: just not good. It's not good like it should be,

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Speaker 3: like it has been. And they pumped so much money

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Speaker 3: He's not getting a quarterback like he used to. So

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Speaker 3: I think Baltimore is going to beat him now. Texans

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Speaker 3: everybody was speaking of Steelers to lose in Hall when

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is wild, But what do you think? What

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Speaker 1: it when they lost to the Rams. Didn't work out.

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Speaker 1: They're seven and one and we need Pittsburgh to do

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Speaker 3: Got to be big Steeler fans, no matter how ugly

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Speaker 3: not picking against the Colts. The Colts have just looked

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Speaker 3: too good They've passed every test. And Johnathan Taylor has

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Speaker 3: been incredible. Texans know that very well how great he

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Speaker 3: McCarthy's about to start because he's been hurt. He's only

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Speaker 3: they're going to have a order of three fried eggs

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Speaker 1: But don't you guys think that this is a management

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Speaker 1: I don't know what they thought. Really, they had Ripping

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Speaker 5: How much what it had coused to Capt Daniel Johns.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. It's a good question what.

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Speaker 3: They gave him? What fourteen million in Andy? Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 5: Cost you any money. They just made a big mistake.

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Speaker 3: Unless McCarthy becomes the quarterback they thought he would be

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Speaker 4: Gino smitht and the Raiders are taking on the Jaguars

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Speaker 4: in Las Vegas. General, Do the Raiders have a shot

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Speaker 2: Rock Bowers getting healthier?

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Speaker 6: How about that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and that would be great if they did. The

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Speaker 3: They haven't been able to use Ashton Jenny like they

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Speaker 5: They're talking about do they.

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Speaker 3: Trade Max Crosby try to get you know, a haul

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Speaker 3: it doesn't matter to me. I think the Texans are

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Speaker 3: But I just you know Chip Kelly. Remember when the

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Speaker 3: Kelly was being paid six million a year maybe more

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Speaker 5: Boy, he may wish he back at Ohio, the Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting Chargers at Titans. I don't care about the

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Speaker 1: eight games in. What do you think I.

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Speaker 3: Think that they're going to hire somebody who's an offensive

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Speaker 5: They want to proven play caller.

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Speaker 3: And if it's a former head coach, there's a lot

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Speaker 3: He went to Atlanta. He did not have a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: He's done a pretty darn good job with Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 3: it's Arthur Smith. But that's why I think they wanted

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Speaker 4: You got a dollar from I'm giving a dollar to

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Speaker 4: each of you, as I always do.

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Speaker 2: There we go, thank you.

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Speaker 6: But here's your condition.

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Speaker 1: Okay, no Chiefs, oh boy, no Eagles, No Chiefs, No Eagles.

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Speaker 4: I want you to go to Vegas and put it

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Speaker 2: Right now, where do you spend your dollar? General?

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Speaker 3: You go first well, my super Bowl picks were Detroit

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, if the Broncos win this week

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Speaker 1: Didn't go well last year, but they've been there enough.

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Speaker 1: And you know, you could say the same thing about

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Speaker 1: never go against the Chiefs, but you didn't allow me to.

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Speaker 5: So what about we pick an underdog, my good underdog.

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Speaker 2: I'm not picking this Seattle, Okay, good good.

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Speaker 3: Seattle's defense was great and I think their offense is good.

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Speaker 3: And if I had to put money and make some

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Speaker 3: good money, because Lions are not going to make you

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Speaker 5: I would put it on Seattle.

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Speaker 1: And if you had said Colts, I would have thrown

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Speaker 1: ask this general. Do the Colts sustain this? And I'm

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Speaker 1: not talking about going fourteen and three. I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: something like that. Are they able to sustain this in

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Speaker 3: I just can't buy into Daniel Jones being a quarterback

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Speaker 3: front blocking and past protecting. But one injury to like Taylor,

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Speaker 3: and I'm not saying they're toast. You know, they can

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Speaker 3: win the division without winning that many games. They kind

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Speaker 3: of remind me of some other teams that had were flat,

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Speaker 3: had great wrecords but were flashing Pans Carolina, the Earth

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Speaker 3: Panthers went fifteen and one, but they do every The

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Speaker 3: Colts do everything well, but the Texans get them twice

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Speaker 3: and they get a chance to beat them two times,

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Speaker 3: including that last game of the year. Based on the

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Speaker 3: way they're going, the old TBD could be prime time.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So General's thought on his dark horse, so to speak,

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Speaker 4: Seattle Mine, and I actually might put my dollar on

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Speaker 4: them the Rams.

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Speaker 2: If I get pookin the coop back healthy, I might

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Speaker 2: go with the Rams good one if the defense is healthy.

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Speaker 4: That's because they always play second half of the season

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Speaker 4: much better.

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Speaker 1: All right, John, very special day at NRG Stadium. We've

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Speaker 1: got about one hundred legends coming back for the Houston Texans,

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Speaker 1: the former players, and Janie McNair gets into the ring

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Speaker 1: of honor.

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts on that happening.

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Speaker 3: I'm at Janis at our house in nineteen ninety seven

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Speaker 3: when I went over to interview Bob and Janis for

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Speaker 3: the first time at not metem and I went into

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Speaker 3: the wrong house, Charlie Thomas's next door, and Charlie and

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Speaker 3: the housekeeper answered and said, he's on his waist, said

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Speaker 3: just beat patient. I went in, looked around, and finally

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Speaker 3: I said, have you see my photographer? She said photographer?

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Speaker 3: I said, yeah, from the chronicle. She goes a chronicle,

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Speaker 3: I said, yeah, we're here to interview Bob and Janis McNair.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, they live next door. I run to

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Speaker 3: the front door opened, and she said, where'd you say

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Speaker 3: you were from? I said, you better forget you ever

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Speaker 3: met me, because Charlie will fire you if he is

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Speaker 3: you let a stranger in his house. And I went

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Speaker 3: over next door. Of course, there's those yards on River

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Speaker 3: Oaks Boulevard.

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Speaker 5: Are so big. And I walk in and Bob's like

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Speaker 5: tapping his watch, and my photographer's Howard Castleberry's like, where

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Speaker 5: the bleep have you been?

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Speaker 3: And then when I tell him what I'd just done,

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Speaker 3: they got such a great kick out of it. And

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Speaker 3: it was a great interview, and Janis is so deserving

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Speaker 3: to be reunited up there with Bob forever, with JJ

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Speaker 3: and Andre and more to come.

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Speaker 5: And it's going to be a great day for a

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Speaker 5: great lady who is the epitome of a Southern bell.

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Speaker 2: Awesome general, great stuff. As always, thanks so much for joining.

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Speaker 5: Us, Yes, thank you very much, as always.

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Speaker 2: All right, coming up, Who's Better?

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Speaker 1: We've got a special version of it for you, plus

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Speaker 1: part two of the Houston Methodist Testosterone segment.

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Speaker 2: So you don't want to miss that as well.

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Speaker 1: It's Texans Radio in the hun Day Texans Radio Studio,

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Speaker 1: Mark Vandermaer and John Harris with you as we are

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Speaker 1: getting closer to Sunday's showdown with the Denver Broncos. And

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Speaker 1: because it is Thursday at this time, that means we're

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Speaker 1: going to play the game called Who's better?

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Speaker 2: Johnny Ready, let's go.

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Speaker 1: Okay, better chance to get a head coaching job now?

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Speaker 2: Pay attention.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, we've had two defensive coordinators in each of

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Speaker 1: the last two weeks who are former head coaches and

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Speaker 1: can be again because they're doing a.

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Speaker 2: Terrific job overall.

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Speaker 1: Rob Solid with the sound Francisco forty nine ers Texas

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Speaker 1: took care of that unit on Sunday, and Vance Joseph

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Speaker 1: doing an outstanding job with the Denver Broncos, former head

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Speaker 1: coach with that particular team actually, which is kind of weird.

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Speaker 1: But who's got a better chance of getting another head

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Speaker 1: coaching job?

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Speaker 4: Ooh, that's a good one. My instant reaction is solid, okay,

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Speaker 4: because Robert did have I mean with the Jets when

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Speaker 4: you look at it and go, when you step back

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Speaker 4: and go, he won seven games with the Jets. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: right now, that looks really good. Yeah, and he did

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Speaker 4: it two years in a row. And he did it

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Speaker 4: the one year twenty twenty three when Rogers was supposed

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Speaker 4: to be the guy that put them over the top

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Speaker 4: and he gets hurt three plays into the season.

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Speaker 2: I thought he did a hell of a job in

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Speaker 2: that game that night.

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Speaker 4: Against Buffalo and still won seven with all that was

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Speaker 4: against him. And now look at the Jets in ag

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Speaker 4: trying to get them out of the Abyss. So my

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Speaker 4: instant reaction is Sola, because there will be some team

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Speaker 4: going you know what. He just can't win with the Jets,

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Speaker 4: and yet he had fourteen wins in two years.

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Speaker 2: So my gut tells me Robert.

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Speaker 4: But Vance has his defense doing the sexy things that

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Speaker 4: people are gonna love to see. I think what people

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Speaker 4: are gonna miss with the Niners is, even though we

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Speaker 4: did a good job shredding him the other day, that

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Speaker 4: with injuries to Bosend to Warner, he's keeping that defense together.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they were lights out against the Falcons, lights

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Speaker 4: out against the Falcons. So I think he's doing some

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Speaker 4: of his best coaching right now. Vance's defense just produces

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Speaker 4: sacks and havoc plays, and that's gonna get people's attention.

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Speaker 4: I think a little bit more. That said, I would

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Speaker 4: hire Robert just because I think winning as a head

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Speaker 4: coach when you look at that he did it with

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Speaker 4: the Jets, So I would give him.

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Speaker 2: I would give him.

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Speaker 4: Just a small, short, small leg up over Vance.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think so too. I think Sala is gonna get it.

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Speaker 1: I think Sala with a chance to pick another offensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator his first one didn't work out so well. We

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Speaker 1: were talking about this the other day, the fact that

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Speaker 1: he'll get another shot, yep, with a different market. I'm

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Speaker 1: still surprised Aaron Glenn took the Jets job. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking behind his back. I'd tell it to

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Speaker 1: his face, saying I don't understand, and I'm sure there

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Speaker 1: was a good reason why he wouldn't take the New

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Speaker 1: Orleans job. Maybe there was never an offer coming. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, but I would assume there would be. And

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Speaker 1: that's a family business. It just feels different there where

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Speaker 1: there might be a little less pressure. I mean, all

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Speaker 1: NFL coaching jobs have a ton of pressure. Oh but

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Speaker 1: maybe a little bit less, maybe a little more gentle media.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you're not gonna have all this altercation stuff, not less.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, the New York media is his freaking brutal

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Speaker 1: so I mean Sala knew that too. Anyway, Hopefully it

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Speaker 1: all works out for ag. Sala gets a shot. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: Vance Joseph gets a shot. Demiko is singing his praise

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Speaker 1: is yesterday at the podium talking about what a great

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator he is. Obviously he was here as a

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Speaker 1: defensive backs coach when Demiko was still here at linebacker,

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Speaker 1: and Vance took over for Gary Kubiak after he had

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Speaker 1: yet another mini stroke in twenty sixteen, and he took over.

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Speaker 2: The next couple of years.

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Speaker 1: Okay, next one here, Okay, better quarterback. You got to

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Speaker 1: pick one. And I think I asked you something like

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Speaker 1: this last week. But the week's continue, so we have

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Speaker 1: to reset these questions. You got bow Knicks for Denver

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Speaker 1: Johnny who's thirty seven years old.

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Speaker 6: He's not.

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Speaker 2: And you have Drake May in New England.

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Speaker 1: These are second year guys who are doing well for

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Speaker 1: their teams. I mean we're talking about first place teams

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Speaker 1: in their divisions. May looks good, Knicks looks good. I

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Speaker 1: think you picked May last time, but you get another

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Speaker 1: shot at it here with Bow Knicks, who is eleven

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Speaker 1: touchdowns and five picks on the season, may still may.

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Speaker 6: Still may okay.

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Speaker 4: And I think the reason I say that is I

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Speaker 4: think both of them have played at pretty high level.

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Speaker 4: I think Bo had a better rookie year for a

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Speaker 4: few reasons. I think that Drake has been better this year.

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Speaker 6: For a few reasons. But they're pretty close.

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Speaker 4: And so I go back ultimately to where I had

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Speaker 4: them placed in my draft analysis, and I had Drake

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Speaker 4: way ahead of Bow. Now I think Bo has shown

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Speaker 4: When I went to go see Bow at the Senior Bowl,

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Speaker 4: I went to the Senior Bowl not to see Bo,

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Speaker 4: and it was actually kind of fun to go to

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Speaker 4: the Senior Bowl and not have to worry about quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: So I was able maybe to look at the quarterbacks

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Speaker 4: a little bit easier that year because I wasn't worried about.

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Speaker 6: Any of them becoming Texans.

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Speaker 4: And I just remember watching Bo Nicks and the Senior

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Speaker 4: Bowl going that isn't gonna fly in the NFL. Man,

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Speaker 4: Holy cow, he can't hit the broad side of a barn.

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Speaker 4: So when he got to the Broncos picking number twelve,

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Speaker 4: I think they overdrafted him. But one of the things

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Speaker 4: I read that summer was Bo Nicks was and had dope.

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Speaker 4: He dove into everything Sean Payton wanted from him. Offensively,

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Speaker 4: he learned to playbook. He knew it inside and out

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Speaker 4: by the time he got back for training camp. He

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Speaker 4: has a confidence and he could deal with Peyton. You know,

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Speaker 4: Peyton can be kind of tough on quarterbacks and Nix

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Speaker 4: is the perfect kind of temperament to be able to

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Speaker 4: do that.

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Speaker 2: So I think they're good fits in both locations. But

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Speaker 2: to me, Drake.

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Speaker 4: Can how do I put this, Drake can save a

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Speaker 4: play from being completely and totally blown up by doing

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Speaker 4: something athletically that I don't think Bo can. Bo can

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Speaker 4: save plays somehow, some way. There's a magic to him

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Speaker 4: saving a play. I think Drake can do it with

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Speaker 4: just a little bit more athleticism. They're very, very close,

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Speaker 4: but I'm gonna go with Drake. I just have always

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Speaker 4: liked Drake over Bow since I started studying as draft prospects.

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Speaker 6: So I'm gonna stick with that. I'm gonna stick with Drake.

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Speaker 2: May Okay, we'll see it all works out next.

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Speaker 1: More quarterback on better career JJ McCarthy cam Ward, who's

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Speaker 1: gonna have the better career cam Ward or JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 2: I actually saw.

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Speaker 1: One of the hot take shows have the underneath the

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Speaker 1: lower third, Yeah, the graphics saying, can JJ McCarthy lead

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Speaker 1: the Vikings to the playoffs? And I thought, I reckon,

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Speaker 1: we're asking that question right now? Are you familiar with

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Speaker 1: what's happened so far? It's not even the four games season,

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Speaker 1: he's played two games. It gets who they play this weekend,

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Speaker 1: the Lions on the road. Have fun with that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't root against any of these guys because well,

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Speaker 1: cam Ward, I want him to lose some titan Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you know, God bless them. But I think the

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarty at the Lions thing is a tall order.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna drop the three and five playoffs? Are you

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Speaker 1: know it's playoffs really for them?

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Speaker 2: I don't see it.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, your thoughts, who's gonna have the better career?

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Speaker 1: So we got to go.

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Speaker 2: Beyond this year.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with JJ McCarthy, And I think there's

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Speaker 4: a couple of There are a couple of reasons why,

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Speaker 4: and actually I don't think any of them have to

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Speaker 4: do with.

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Speaker 2: The play on the field. Because he's coached by the

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Speaker 2: greatest coach ever.

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Speaker 4: Well, yes, that's that's one part of it, but it

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Speaker 4: also leads to another part. There's a lot more stability

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Speaker 4: in Minnesota, yeah, than there is in Tennessee. You think about,

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Speaker 4: you know what, Jetta's there with Jordanadison there, with an

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Speaker 4: offensive line that they spent some money on, They spent

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Speaker 4: draft picks, guys that have been around for a little bit,

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Speaker 4: and Kevin O'Connell quest he's a really good GM. I mean,

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Speaker 4: look at Tennessee. Tennessee's been a mess. It's been a

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Speaker 4: head coach or a GM every other year.

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Speaker 2: If they can hire somebody really good.

662
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Speaker 4: Now they could, they could, but it's just another year

663
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Speaker 4: of change for cam Ward at that point. Now, change

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Speaker 4: did Drake May some good? I know he's not in

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Speaker 4: this one, but we talked about him a second ago.

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Speaker 4: Change did Drake May a lot of good? Because they

667
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Speaker 4: brought in Josh McDaniels, who has done a great job.

668
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Speaker 2: JJ's played too.

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Speaker 4: Cam Ward's played three times as many games as J. J.

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Speaker 4: McCarthy as and JJ was drafted in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 4: I just think that stability and talent around McCarthy will

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Speaker 4: make him better than cam Ward basically flying solo. That's

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Speaker 4: essentially what he's doing in Tennessee. His top receiver is

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Speaker 4: Calvin Ridley. Calvin Ridley's what a top twenty receiver in

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Speaker 4: the league. If that I'm talking about Jettis and Addison,

676
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Speaker 4: those guys you can make case are both top twenty

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Speaker 4: two of them, not to mention the TJ Hockinson, Aaron

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Speaker 4: Jones in the backfield. So I just think there's a

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Speaker 4: lot more around McCarthy where he can do positive things

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Speaker 4: and have a positive impact on the Vikings and they

681
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Speaker 4: can win games. But he doesn't have to carry him.

682
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Speaker 4: Cam Ward has to cape up for the Titans to

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Speaker 4: win cape up, and I don't know that that is

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Speaker 4: ultimately a successful way of doing things.

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Speaker 2: It's going to take a while.

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Speaker 4: It's going to take two years or so for the

687
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Speaker 4: Titans to put the right amount of decision makers, head coach,

688
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Speaker 4: talented wide receivers and complete offensive line for cam Ward

689
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Speaker 4: to hit his highest level. Now as players came Ward

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Speaker 4: as I think more arm talent, he's got more get

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Speaker 4: out of the pocketability to make plays there.

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Speaker 6: But it's close.

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Speaker 4: Enough that right now I would take JJ McCarthy one

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Speaker 4: hundred times out of one hundred.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let me throw Caleb Williams in here.

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Speaker 1: Oh as well, when you look at these three second

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Speaker 1: year quarterbacks plus cam Ward a rookie quarterback, if you

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Speaker 1: had to pick right now, I mean, Caleb has Ben Johnson,

699
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Speaker 1: but it's not really clicking yet. Yeah, at times it

700
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Speaker 1: looks okay, but it's not really clicking yet. I actually

701
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Speaker 1: heard one of the hot take shows talking about, well,

702
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Speaker 1: Jared Goff in his first year with I'm whoa hit

703
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Speaker 1: the brakes here, we're talking Jared Goff worked with McVeigh

704
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Speaker 1: and going to a super Bowl. You know, I know

705
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Speaker 1: that they kind of gave up on him because they

706
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Speaker 1: traded him. But they traded him because they had a

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Speaker 1: chance to get Matthew Stafford, a proven winner, and Goff,

708
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Speaker 1: although he'd won a lot of games, wasn't to their liking.

709
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Speaker 1: And Goff really got it going with Ben Johnson, but

710
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Speaker 1: Goff was much more of the finished product. Caleb Williams

711
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: is still a rookie, coming on his second year quarterback,

712
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Speaker 1: coming in with a new coordinator and all that.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, throw him in the mix.

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Speaker 4: Caleb is kind of a conundrum because there are times

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Speaker 4: I watch Caleb and it I feel like I'm watching

716
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Speaker 4: a guy being a maestro in that offense kind of

717
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 4: move guys around, boom, He's slinging around.

718
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Speaker 6: It looks good.

719
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Speaker 4: But he's also doing that against you know, say the Cardinals,

720
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Speaker 4: or you know some team with a defense that's not

721
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Speaker 4: not very good, and he's just being a maestro. It's

722
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Speaker 4: almost as if when the other team that he's facing

723
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Speaker 4: is either favored in a game or one of the

724
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Speaker 4: top teams in the league, it's almost as if he

725
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Speaker 4: wants to go in the booth and go become Superman.

726
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Speaker 2: It's like, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 4: Just be Caleb, Just be Caleb. Just follow follow the plan.

728
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Speaker 4: You got enough weapons around. Your offensive line is pretty good.

729
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 4: Your running game is actually better than people think. Just

730
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 4: rely on those weapons. You don't have to cape up,

731
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Speaker 4: you don't have to be Superman. You don't have to

732
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Speaker 4: hold the ball twenty seconds in the backfield and spin

733
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Speaker 4: around from eight different guys.

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Speaker 2: Just follow what Ben Johnson's coaching you do.

735
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Speaker 4: And I think that Caleb gets those points where there

736
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Speaker 4: are games where he's like, Okay, follow the game plan.

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Speaker 6: I'm good.

738
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Speaker 4: Then I think there are some games where for him

739
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 4: he feels like I gotta make a play. I gotta

740
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Speaker 4: make a play. I had to make a but and

741
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Speaker 4: I got it. It's like, no, you don't, you don't

742
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 4: just sitting there. I think there are some habits that

743
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 4: have to be broken in Chicago with him. From that standpoint,

744
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 4: not every play has to be a thirty five yard

745
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 4: highlight reel going on Sports Center.

746
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Speaker 6: Play.

747
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Speaker 1: Okay, here's another one for you. Best option at the

748
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: trade deadline for the Houston Texans position groups. Acquire an

749
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Speaker 1: offensive lineman, acquire a running back, acquire any other position

750
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: you want, or do nothing. I know this is tough.

751
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: Let's just leave the do nothing out of it, but

752
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: let's just play. Make a trade. You're gonna acquire something, Okay,

753
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: either O line, running back, or another position. What's it

754
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 1: gonna be. I am forcing you to acquire somebody.

755
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Speaker 4: I think the interesting one of the three is running

756
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 4: back because we still don't know what Joe Mixon's status is.

757
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 2: If there was any indication that Joe could come.

758
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Speaker 4: Back in the next three to four weeks, which I

759
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 4: don't know if that's possible, I have no idea even.

760
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Speaker 2: The final three four games of the regular season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I would say, Okay, running back good.

762
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 4: The tight end position, I would say is one that

763
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Speaker 4: I would like to target because even though Dalton has

764
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 4: played the best ball of his career, I want somebody

765
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Speaker 4: that comes in to help Dalton.

766
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Speaker 2: That's not all on Dalton that he's the only guy.

767
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Speaker 6: Now.

768
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Speaker 4: I think Harrison Brian has done some good things. I

769
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Speaker 4: still think that was a good trade. By the way,

770
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 4: John met you got traded again to New York Jets.

771
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Speaker 4: I think Harrison Bryant can do some things and has

772
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Speaker 4: done some things in this offense.

773
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Speaker 6: The more comfortably he.

774
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Speaker 4: Gets, but I still feel like that's a position where

775
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 4: we still miss Brevin Jordan. We miss Kate Stover now

776
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 4: again talked about Joe Mixon with running backs. If you

777
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 4: feel like you can get Kate Stover back in the

778
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 4: next how many ever weeks, then maybe that's one that

779
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 4: you maybe stay away from so.

780
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 2: That then brings you to offensive line.

781
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Speaker 4: I feel like, even what you have on the offensive line,

782
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 4: if there is a way to upgrade on the offensive line,

783
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 4: absolutely take a look. And I would say that every

784
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 4: year every year. If there's an opportunity to upgrade the

785
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 4: offensive line. You know, but John, it's playing a little

786
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 4: bit better. They only gave up two quarterback hits and

787
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 4: no sax against the Niners. Understand that, but we also

788
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 4: know that the attrition on the offensive line happens as

789
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 4: the more more plays they run on, the more snaps

790
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 4: they have, more games they play, you're gonna lose a

791
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 4: guy to injury, You're gonna lose some of that depth.

792
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 4: So finding a guy that you feel I can come

793
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 4: in here and accentuate the offensive line, I think is

794
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 4: absolutely to me the one that would take press sense.

795
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 4: Now again, if if you knew more about Joe, if

796
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 4: you felt good about Caid, then I feel like then

797
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 4: those two you can go, all right, well, those might

798
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 4: be two guys that you can bring along later when

799
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 4: you really need it. But offensive line, I feel like,

800
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 4: just offensive line in general, always always, And so that

801
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Speaker 4: one takes pres sense to me.

802
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: All right, one more quick one. All right, what was

803
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Speaker 1: the best Halloween costume you ever had? You got to

804
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Speaker 1: reach back.

805
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 4: There was a poster many many years ago. Posters are

806
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 4: really cool in the eighties, yes, and they used to

807
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 4: have the Costacos posters, and then every shoe company you

808
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 4: did posters, and Nike used to do posters.

809
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 6: And Converse used to do posters.

810
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Converse did a poster of Don Mattingly and

811
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Speaker 4: it was called Hitman and he was in a pinstripe

812
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 4: suit and his bat was like a gat like a

813
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 4: gallon gun, you know. And it was a playoff being

814
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 4: a mafia guy. And I love that Dom Matowy poster.

815
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Speaker 4: So you dressed up as I went as the hit Man.

816
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 4: Nobody knew who I was. Suit hose, the suit to everything,

817
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 4: and then I had a bat. I was walking around

818
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 4: school with my eastern bat, you know. So yeah, that

819
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 4: was that was my best I went as the hit Man.

820
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 4: Uh you know, tongue in cheek is you know, Dom Mattingly,

821
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 4: But yeah, I got to walk around school with my

822
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 4: eastern bat and you know, picks wings whenever I wanted to.

823
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 6: It was awesome.

824
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 2: Those posters were something else.

825
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 6: They were so good.

826
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: In the shoe shoe shine so good, Darryl Dawkins, Chocolate

827
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 1: Thunder from the Planet loved Tron. I mean that is

828
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: on a poster that is just wild.

829
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 2: The best poster I think there ever was.

830
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Speaker 6: And you'll know this one. George Gervin.

831
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, the ice Man sitting on a throne of ice

832
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 4: he's got a couple of basketballs on her.

833
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 2: I mean, that is the coolest, the coolest.

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Speaker 1: All right, interesting, I'll share mine tomorrow maybe. But coming

835
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Speaker 1: up the medical report, it's not really that, but Houston

836
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: Methods Minutes with more on the testosterone subject that came

837
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Speaker 1: up last week. This is good stuff from the doctors

838
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Speaker 1: at Houston method is next here on Texans Radio. Great

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Speaker 1: to have you listening to Texans Radio. If you just

840
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Speaker 1: joined us, Where have you been? Have you been late

841
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Speaker 1: to class? Well, this whole show will be up in

842
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Speaker 1: podcast form right afterwards on the Odyssey app, which you

843
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Speaker 1: should undoubtedly have. Maybe you're listening on it right now,

844
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: and later on Spotify, Houston Texans dot com and anywhere

845
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Speaker 1: else you get podcasts. And in this segment, we'd like

846
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Speaker 1: to go medical sometimes but with us slant toward what

847
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Speaker 1: you're interested in and what about all these testosterone commercials? Now,

848
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Speaker 1: last week we had doctor Akhil mcthigy talking about the

849
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: basics of testosterone TRT therapy. This week part two of

850
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Speaker 1: that conversation. Let's start out with the injections. What's it

851
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: all about?

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00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, so injection is a very common form of testostroone

853
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 7: therapy management. The most common is once a week, very

854
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 7: easy done at home, either into that thy muscle or

855
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 7: gluias muscle. There's also longer acting forms of testosterone that

856
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 7: we can inject in the clinic. Patient typically comes in

857
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 7: once every ten weeks for that form of testosterone. There's

858
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Speaker 7: also pellets that we can place into the glueas muscle.

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00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 7: This is a very good option for men who don't

860
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 7: want to be injecting weekly themselves at HOMER, don't want

861
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Speaker 7: to be coming into the clinic often. There's pellets that

862
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 7: we can place into the glueas muscle about every three

863
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 7: to four months, and that's a very good option for

864
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 7: long acting testosterone. There's also several other forms other than injections.

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Speaker 7: That includes nasal sprays, gels, as well as oral tablets.

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00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 7: Oral tablets is something that's new on the market. There's

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Speaker 7: three FDAF oral tablets now that are very safe and

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Speaker 7: you know, enjoyed by patients.

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Speaker 1: So, once you're on TRT as they call it, is

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Speaker 1: that for life or how does that work? Can you

871
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: go off of it and boost your levels naturally after that?

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00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: Or it does not work?

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Speaker 7: So that's a very good question. So anytime I'm starting

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Speaker 7: someone on testoster mode, I typically recommend a three to

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Speaker 7: six month trial, and that's to see if there's any

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Speaker 7: symptom improvement or improvement in their lab results. There are

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Speaker 7: men who, let's say have low normal testoster with symptoms.

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Speaker 7: We get started on testofser and they don't have any

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Speaker 7: improvement in their symptoms. I typically recommend stopping testosterone at

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Speaker 7: that time. However, if we do see improvement in symptoms,

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Speaker 7: what I typically recommend is lifestyle changes in addition to

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Speaker 7: testosterone replacement therapy. Oftentimes these guys are low energy, very

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Speaker 7: hygh fatigue, unable to make it to the gym, not

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Speaker 7: sleeping well. If I get them started on test offerom

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Speaker 7: for three to six months, they're able to get to

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Speaker 7: the gym, able to work out, build muscle mass, sleep better,

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Speaker 7: and then we see a natural boost in their testosceral level.

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Speaker 7: So at that point, after three to six months, we

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Speaker 7: can discuss potentially stopping and contooing just healthy lifestyle changes. However,

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Speaker 7: there are some men that have been fit from continued

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Speaker 7: therapy and it can and sometimes be a lifelong thing

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Speaker 7: once started.

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Speaker 1: How hard is it to boost your natural production again

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Speaker 1: after you go off t RT that's a.

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Speaker 7: Very good question as well. So that one of the

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Speaker 7: downsides of testops from replacement therapy is our body senses

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Speaker 7: we're getting it externally and it shuts down our own production.

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Speaker 7: So once that happens, it is it can be difficult

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Speaker 7: to jump start system. However, we have strategies to boost

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Speaker 7: our own system. Uh. That's that's several different horrible medication

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Speaker 7: regimens that boost our own production of testops from once

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Speaker 7: it's stopped. So that's something that we get into in

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Speaker 7: the in the clinic as well. But there's medicines such

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Speaker 7: as clomate and ACG that we often give once if

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Speaker 7: someone is trying to come off of testosterone, and that

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Speaker 7: helps it boost our own production. So we have the

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Speaker 7: we have several different strategies that we can utilize for

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Speaker 7: three to six months to rejump start our system once

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Speaker 7: testops to stop.

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Speaker 1: That's great information, doctor, thanks so much for joining us.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it all right, thanks for having me. That's

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Speaker 1: doctor Kiel mcthigy from the Houston Methodist Men's Health Center

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Speaker 1: Skurlock Tower, Houston Methodist dot org for more information. It's

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Speaker 1: the official healthcare provider of the Houston, Texans. Houston Methodist

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Speaker 1: leading medicine. All right, there's doctor Akil mcthigy of Houston

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Speaker 1: Methodist on testosterone, the official healthcare provider of the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: Houston Methodist leading medicine. And thanks so much for the

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Speaker 1: general John mcclaim for being on the show. Johnny Harris

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Speaker 1: and I played Who's Better again. The whole show's in

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Speaker 1: this one out, Thursday Night Football on the way. You

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Speaker 1: don't want to miss that. You don't want to miss

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Speaker 1: tomorrow's show, which is loaded Tomko Ryans, Danny Barrett, the

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Speaker 1: to be named later. Tons of other stuff all happening

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