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Speaker 1: All right, Pat, let's get into it with the game

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Speaker 1: that everybody wants to see. It is the Jaguars visiting

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Speaker 1: the Bengals. You told me the Bengals were going to

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Speaker 1: be a seven and a half point favorite over anyone

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Speaker 1: this year. I might have added you at the beginning.

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Speaker 1: But the consensus line is seven and a half. There

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Speaker 1: are some sevens out there. Again at bettingpros dot com

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Speaker 1: we have consensus lines. Where have books from all over.

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Speaker 1: I'm DraftKings, Pat, You've talked how you do DraftKings. It's

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Speaker 1: seven there, but against consensus line seven and a half.

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Speaker 1: The total consensus total forty five and a half. So

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Speaker 1: just what's your reaction to that line?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that hook is going to be all important. Dan,

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Speaker 2: I think I'm inclined to take the points if I

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Speaker 2: a big game for the Bengals against their longtime rivals Dealers.

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Speaker 2: To go in in Pittsburgh and win that game, you

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Speaker 2: game for the Jaguars. They were actually scrappy er this

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Speaker 2: Just laying seven or seven and a half with the

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Speaker 1: So I make this analogy I probably last time. It's

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Speaker 1: because that's what this is, and it strikes me. Pat

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Speaker 1: go near. The total also forty five and a half

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Speaker 1: forty six. Actually it's between forty five vanduels forty five

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Speaker 1: bet MGM is forty six, so forty five and a half.

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Speaker 1: I don't really see value on the total.

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Speaker 2: something I'm just gonna lay off entirely. I will make

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Speaker 2: the case for Jacksonville, Dana. I do think they are

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Speaker 2: their offense is pretty much non functional. There were moments

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Speaker 2: he's just making bad decisions right now, and I think

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Speaker 2: that's going to turn around. The defense isn't totally awful,

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Speaker 2: so I think they're a little scrappier than some of

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty one Jaguars moments of functionality. Let's go to

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Speaker 1: the Texans visiting the Bills seventeen point favorite. No big

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Speaker 1: deal here, the totals forty eight. What do you do,

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Speaker 1: pat when you have a spread this large. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just like I don't like betting Alabama Vanderbilt games

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Speaker 2: in college, Dan, I really shy away from a line

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Speaker 2: have had ten days to prepare for this one, I

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Speaker 2: can't take them with the points. I'm this is a

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Speaker 2: stay away.

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Speaker 1: There's no way, there's no way you can take the

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Speaker 1: Texans in this game, just because again the Bills. You're right, Pat,

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Speaker 1: Like I realized that Josh Allen in the first couple

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Speaker 1: They look really, really good. There's no way I can

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Speaker 1: allow them to cover. And the total. Again, also one

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Speaker 1: this game, I have no idea what the total could be.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Bills could get there by themselves realistically

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Speaker 2: On the total, I do because if it does play

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Speaker 2: think they're expected point total based on the line is

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Speaker 2: something like fifteen and a half points, And if it

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Speaker 2: it to Zach Moss and Devin Singletary a lot in

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Speaker 2: the second half, And you know, I could see the

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Speaker 2: just being a really dead second half where we see

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Speaker 2: seven or ten points scored after intermission.

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Speaker 1: All right, Saints are at home length and they will

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Speaker 1: be at home for this game. Right, I read they're

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Speaker 1: back to Nordy, I think so. I think they were cleared,

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Speaker 1: So I think they're home and they will be laying

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Speaker 1: eight to the zero to three Giants a low total

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Speaker 1: here forty three and a half. What do you think?

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Speaker 2: I always kind of like taking the teams dand coming

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Speaker 2: about it, that's the open question with the Giants. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if they're good enough to do anything about it.

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Speaker 2: But like when teams are a little bit embarrassed, and

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Speaker 2: I think you're embarrassed losing a home game to the Falcons. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Does the fact, like all the injury that they have

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Speaker 1: are like offensive line injuries and everything like that. But that,

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Speaker 1: this game. Sakuon look good. Yesterday we talked about so

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Speaker 1: maybe the offense opens up a little bit. Does that

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Speaker 1: matter to you whatsoever their health or you just think

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Speaker 2: Regarding that much because they get Evan ingram back. I

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Speaker 2: actually think Colin Johnson. I was surprised that Jacks released him,

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Speaker 2: I just kind of like them, and nothing about that

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Speaker 2: Saints offense has really impressed me. They've done a great

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Speaker 2: job taking short fields, yes, and punching it in on

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Speaker 2: short fields so far. But like we haven't seen eighty

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Speaker 2: Like that's always been Jamis's thing. He'll he'll zip it

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Speaker 2: you ask Jameis to go eighty or ninety yards, you're

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Speaker 2: going to get that turnover first before you get points.

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Speaker 1: So do you think there's any chance that this gets

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Speaker 1: down to a touchdown by the time we get to Sunday? Like,

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Speaker 1: It strikes me as a very sharp versus public type

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm kind of with you there, Dan, I

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Speaker 2: also see with a Daniel Jones versus Jameis Winston game

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Speaker 1: That's an outstanding point. Actually, there could be a lot

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Speaker 2: I just like I hate the Chiefs giving away that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no way you can take the Chiefs, I think.

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Speaker 1: I mean, everybody, it's that spread against starters stuck at

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Speaker 1: day anyway, right Like, that's just not what they do.

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Speaker 1: They win games, but they don't. So I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I like the Eagles here go ahead.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a great call there as well. So

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Speaker 1: again we'll see what happens tonight, but I do lean Eagles.

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Speaker 1: Washington is visiting Atlanta. The Falcons are favored here by

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's surprising to me, Like I assumed Washington would

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Speaker 1: and a half to the Panthers with the total of fifty.

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Speaker 1: Once again, we have not seen the Cowboys yet play tonight,

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Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey's status less than a grade one hamstring straight

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Speaker 1: Dan Arnold and bolster their cornerback in it. So what

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Speaker 2: As much as I respect the Panthers defense and think

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Speaker 2: of faith and assume that Christian McCaffrey is not going

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Speaker 2: As good as that defense is, I don't know if

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Speaker 2: I just I think at home, the Cowboys should probably

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Speaker 1: Interesting, I think I come on the other side, pat

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Speaker 1: and again, I don't think that this is something where

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Speaker 1: It's not like it's getting a seven. It's four and

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, kudos to the Cowboys for winning that

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Speaker 2: I'm inclined to go over on this one. I don't

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Speaker 2: do think it's probably going to squeeze over that that

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Speaker 2: fifty total.

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Speaker 1: you're laying one, whether you're getting one. But the Browns here,

432
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,160
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, are laying one. Sorry if I misspoken, Yeah,

433
00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:20,679
Speaker 1: that's okay.

434
00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,800
Speaker 2: So I think the the spread is a stay away

435
00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,640
Speaker 2: from me. I'm more interested in the total and maybe

436
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,280
Speaker 2: playing this one under. Just the way the Browns play.

437
00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,080
Speaker 2: I think they, you know, are the ultimate ball control

438
00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:36,359
Speaker 2: team and uh sort of want to play slow, whereas

439
00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,840
Speaker 2: maybe Minnesota might want to push the tempo a little bit.

440
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 2: I think the Browns want to go four corners a

441
00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,480
Speaker 2: little bit here, run the ball with Chubb and haunts,

442
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,320
Speaker 2: have Baker manage the game. That's kind of been the

443
00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,879
Speaker 2: Stefanski formula this season, and I think it's going to

444
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 2: apply here too.

445
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,199
Speaker 1: I agree with you. You know the Dolphin, that the

446
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,960
Speaker 1: Dolphin's gonna Sorry, the Vikings are explosive really this year,

447
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 1: you know, more than ever, and Cousins is playing great,

448
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,600
Speaker 1: and the receivers are playing really well, and you know,

449
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 1: you've got the ton End now involve. But realistically, I

450
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 1: think that this game is kind of a slugfest in

451
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 1: a slower moving game than I think most people are

452
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 1: going to expect. So at fifty two and a half,

453
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 1: that's what it was, that's that's too high for me,

454
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,360
Speaker 1: So I am going to go under there as well.

455
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,439
Speaker 2: And the other point I would make about that is

456
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 2: just that if the Vikings had maybe a band in

457
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 2: the run yesterday without Dalvin Cook, I might feel a

458
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,720
Speaker 2: little differently at all. But they really didn't, Like they're

459
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 2: not going to get away from the running game entirely

460
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 2: under Mike Sammer, like we've seen that for several years now,

461
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,160
Speaker 2: and they didn't get away from it yesterday.

462
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, and they didn't need I'm Madison look great,

463
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 1: So that's good that they stuck with it. So even

464
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 1: if Cook is out, which I kind of think he

465
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 1: might be for this one, just given what you know,

466
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,200
Speaker 1: he didn't sound particularly close to playing it. Doesn't really

467
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 1: matter in terms of how we view the game. So

468
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 1: I agree with you there. Let's go to the Cults

469
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,440
Speaker 1: are visiting the Dolphins. The Dolphins are laying a point

470
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 1: and a half and the total is a low forty

471
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 1: three and a half. What do you think.

472
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 2: I don't think I can support the Colts they're in

473
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 2: a road game with unless they're getting more points than that.

474
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 2: But man, this is a this is a tough one.

475
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 2: Like this is just two teams I do not trust

476
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 2: at all, So I probably will not touch this one.

477
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 2: I don't know how you feel about it, Dan, if

478
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 2: either of these teams grabs you, But have they given

479
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 2: us a reason to want to throw our arms around

480
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 2: them yet either one?

481
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 1: I will. I will be watching this game because we

482
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 1: watch every football game pat as our job, both as

483
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 1: you know, on both sides. But I have no interest

484
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 1: in having like a vested interest in this game on

485
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,880
Speaker 1: one in one way or another. No, I don't. And again, look,

486
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 1: if you forced me, right, if you were like, hey, Dan,

487
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 1: here's one hundred bucks you have to bet it on

488
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 1: this game, I'd probably just take the Dolphins because I

489
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 1: think they probably wind up coming out ahead in this game.

490
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,640
Speaker 1: But I would have no confidence in doing it whatsoever,

491
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 1: So just to stand away for me, not a game

492
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 1: I want to get any piece of. So let's move

493
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 1: on to uh. I don't know how I feel about

494
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: this one. Pat is the Bears at home against the Lions.

495
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: They're length three and a half, so get that hook

496
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 1: if you want to take the Lions. And the total

497
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 1: is also forty three and a half. Justin fields. We

498
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: talked about it yesterday on our fantasy podcast. Looked terrible,

499
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: the offensive line was abysmal. The Bears offense looked broken.

500
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: I assume it's still gonna be fields in this one

501
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,400
Speaker 1: just from everything I've seen about Dalton not being ready yet.

502
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,199
Speaker 1: So what do you think here? With them length three

503
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: and a half against the Lions.

504
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 2: Doesn't it feel like the odds makers just sort of

505
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,959
Speaker 2: threw up their arms with this one and didn't know

506
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 2: what to do with it. And you know, under Dan Campbell,

507
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 2: the Lions have indeed been biting kneecaps. Dan, I mean

508
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:49,640
Speaker 2: they've they refused to let the forty nine ers put

509
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 2: them away in week one. You know, Week two against

510
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 2: the Packers kind of got away from them. But then

511
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 2: yesterday they should have probably I mean they should have

512
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 2: and they shouldn't have won that game. Hollywood Brown should

513
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 2: have had like two or three touchdown catches, and yet

514
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 2: the Lions it took that sixty six yard bounce off

515
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 2: the uprights field goal to put them away. So they

516
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 2: have been really scrappy. On the other hand, two weeks ago,

517
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 2: we saw the Bears put together a pretty good game

518
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 2: at home against the Bengals, and you know, they're one

519
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 2: solid effort this season. I do think they've got a

520
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 2: better team. Like I've been almost pleasantly surprised by the

521
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 2: Bears defense. The front seven has been pretty good, actually

522
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 2: covering up for some of the holes they might have

523
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,239
Speaker 2: in the back end. And meanwhile, like Detroit's got some

524
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 2: major coverage issues. I mean, this was one of the

525
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 2: worst groups of cornerbacks to begin with, and they lose

526
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Akuda, their best cornerback, and then Melafan who's probably

527
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 2: their second best guy. And I forgive me for not

528
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 2: knowing whether there's any chance if Malafanu who comes back

529
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 2: this week, But I mean, they had so many blown

530
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 2: c against the Ravens, and like the Ravens just couldn't

531
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 2: fully cash in yesterday. But I think even as dysfunctional

532
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 2: as that Bear's passing game look this past week, Yeah,

533
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 2: I think it's destined to look a little better. It

534
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 2: has to, dan, doesn't. I mean, like Matt Nagy is

535
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 2: not going to be there next year, but he's playing

536
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 2: for his next job, and whether that's like a job

537
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 2: as a a you know, maybe an O C or

538
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 2: a quarterbacks coach at the NFL level, or you know,

539
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks coach at with the San Diego State Aztecs

540
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 2: next year. Like he's a young coach, he's still got

541
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 2: a career ahead of him, and like he better get

542
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,880
Speaker 2: this ironed out with fields fast, yeah, or he's gonna

543
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 2: be in Siberia next year.

544
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,959
Speaker 1: I assume that it's going to be better than what

545
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: we saw yesterday. But Pat, you and I could be

546
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 1: out on the football field and it might be better

547
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 1: than what we saw yesterday. All Right, I'm not gonna

548
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 1: bet this game. I'm not. I'm just gonna be transparent.

549
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna bet this game. There's no way, because

550
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: I don't feel common either way. But I think if

551
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: it stays here where I'm getting the hook, I'll take

552
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: the hook, and I'll assume that even if the Bears

553
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 1: pull it together and it gets better from what we

554
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 1: saw yesterday, that the Lions figure out a way to

555
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 1: keep it close and get the garbage time with Swift

556
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: and sort of keeping it there and keeping it within

557
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: a field goal. In a divisional game where I can't

558
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: trust either team, I will just basically take the hook.

559
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: It surprises me a little bit here because I think

560
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 1: it begs you to take the hook, and I don't

561
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: know why the bookmakers necessarily would want that. I mean

562
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: maybe maybe with what you're saying, like it makes sense

563
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: that they would, but I don't know how you can

564
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: feel confident in either team at this point. So it's

565
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: just something where I don't want to go near. What

566
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: about the total pad at forty three and a half

567
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: anything there?

568
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm inclined to play it over. I mean, we

569
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 2: have seen that Detroit just can't cover. They don't have

570
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 2: the person to cover anyone, and like Alan Robinson and

571
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 2: Darnell mood are going to be open at points in

572
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 2: that game, and Fields is a good arm. I mean,

573
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 2: he it was the pass rush that was causing him

574
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 2: all sorts of problems yesterday, and if they can keep

575
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 2: him just the least little bit clean. I think he's

576
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 2: going to be able to do some business against this

577
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 2: Detroit secondary, which is just in tatters right now.

578
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, all right. Let's get to the Jets hosting

579
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: the Titans. The Titans are laying seven and a half

580
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: and the totals forty six. What do you think?

581
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: Oh man, it's so hard to back the Jets right now,

582
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 2: as dysfunctional as it's beending. Yet the Titans not a

583
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 2: team you really feel comfortable laying seven and a half with,

584
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 2: so probably a stay away from me. How do you

585
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: feel about this one? I just nothing grabs me here.

586
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: That's all right. I think there's value on the Jets

587
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 1: that I will not be taking like that. That's how

588
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: I view it. And I think that realistically, when you

589
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: look at these games with the Jets, you're going to

590
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: say all the trends are going to suggest the Jets

591
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 1: and everything, and I think they'll put up points like

592
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I certainly even hate the forty six

593
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: as the over under there because I do think that

594
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: this is a game where you'll see what happens a

595
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 1: little bit when the Jets aren't playing a good defense

596
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 1: like they played the Broncos. They had the Panthers in

597
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: Week one, they had the Patriots. They've played some decent defenses.

598
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 1: Who can really you know, hone in on the fact

599
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 1: that their line is terrible. So I think you'll probably

600
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: see some offense. So I don't I don't hate the

601
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: over at forty six, but realistically we also we don't

602
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: know a j Brown status or anything like that. Not

603
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: that that necessarily means a ton, but it's a stay

604
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 1: away from me. Really, I think there's value on the

605
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: Jets that I have no interest in taking whatsoever. And

606
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: like you said, like I just I can't really back

607
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: the Jets, but the Titans have seemed a little dysfunctional

608
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: at times. Even yesterday in a game that I thought

609
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: that they would they I mean, they wound up winning

610
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: the final scores. Fine, they covered the spread. I had

611
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: them with the spread, but they didn't look particularly impressive overall. Right,

612
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: So I think that it's something where the Jets can

613
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: maybe hang around. I think it'll go over, but I'm

614
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: not betting it either way.

615
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds right, And you make a good point

616
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 2: about the Jets having faced some really tough defenses and

617
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 2: this is probably going to be their easiest opponent. Maybe

618
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 2: they can move the ball a little bit more, but yeah,

619
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 2: they were just kind of drawing dead against the Broncos

620
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 2: in Denver yesterday.

621
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: And they were and again, and I think that our

622
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: guests from this past week, Alex kalo J basically it said,

623
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: or maybe it was Andrew Kaylee last week at it

624
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: which was basically a after this week, start taking the

625
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: over on the Jets games, because I think you will

626
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: see the offense is not The offensive line is terrible,

627
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: but the offense is not quite as dysfunctional as it

628
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: necessarily has shown, you know, given it they have we'll

629
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: see Elija more obviously at the concussions, so we'll see

630
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: about that. But they can move the ball like they're

631
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: just they have run into some difficult defenses right now,

632
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,959
Speaker 1: and I think you'll see them put up some points

633
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: in this game. So I do lean the over forty six,

634
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,479
Speaker 1: but the spread is an absolute runaway for me, because

635
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: I think there's value on the Jets that I have

636
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: no interest in going near. The forty nine Ers are

637
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: at home here laying three and a half to the Seahawks.

638
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: The total is fifteen and a half. What do you

639
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: think about this?

640
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 2: One. Pat oh Man, I'm going to have to take

641
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: a longer look at this one, because right off the

642
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 2: bat like nothing grabs me. You'd think the forty nine

643
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 2: ers would be in kind of a good bounced back spot.

644
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 2: But then again, you know, Seattle didn't play their best

645
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 2: game against Minnesota. So man, it just it seems like

646
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 2: the right line. Like I don't know who the better

647
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 2: team is right now, So three and a half for

648
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 2: the home team sounds about rights and probably leaning over

649
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 2: like I think it would probably go over, But then again,

650
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 2: I'm not entirely sure about that either. Garoppolo didn't look

651
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 2: great against the Packers on Sunday nights. The pass rush

652
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 2: was really getting to him, and I know Seattle. I

653
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 2: think the thing that drives me towards the over more

654
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 2: than anything else is I think Seattle is another one

655
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 2: of these teams that people are going to attack all year,

656
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 2: like their cornerbacks are not good, but they can put

657
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,479
Speaker 2: heat on the passer. And green Bay, which had not

658
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 2: put an any pressure on anyone all season, was getting

659
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 2: the Garoppolo in Sunday Sunday night, and so I think

660
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: Seattle's going to maybe be able to get to him

661
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 2: and hold up that back end a little bit, but

662
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 2: we'll see him. I'm leaning over here. I kind of

663
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 2: want to dig into this one a little bit more

664
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 2: before I lock anything in.

665
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree that the over is the play here,

666
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: and that you made a good point like this. I

667
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: did not expect the Seahawks to be able to just

668
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: generally get as much pressure as they have gotten so

669
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: far this year, so I could see that being something.

670
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: But I do think that there's going to be points

671
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: scored in this game for sure. Interesting though, Pat, I

672
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: will ask you, because you basically said you don't know

673
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: which one of these teams is the better team, why

674
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: doesn't that drive you to take the hook?

675
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 2: Then?

676
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: If you're getting the you know, the three and a half,

677
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: if you think you know, I'm not sure, why don't

678
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: Why don't you just take at this point the the

679
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: you know they're asking you to, they're asking you to ice.

680
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't like that half point Sometimes isn't

681
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 2: compelling enough for me, Like, you know, oh, if it

682
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,239
Speaker 2: was three, i'd walk away from a hook. I'm taking it.

683
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 2: I guess I don't feel that strongly about that extra

684
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 2: half point.

685
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, How about the rams are hosting the Cardinals.

686
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: The matchup of three and zero teams. Here, the Rams

687
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: are laying six points. The total is fifty three and

688
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: a half. I love, by the way that it's like

689
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: the total just like fifty three, fifty four, fifty five

690
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: like routinely now in the NFL. It's kind of crazy.

691
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: But again, what do you think they're six points fifty

692
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: three and a half total.

693
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 2: I'm inclined to go for the Cardinals just because I

694
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: think it's going to be a close game, like a

695
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 2: really close one, and I think the Rams are maybe

696
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 2: getting a little too much credit for albeit a very

697
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 2: convincing win against the Buccaneers, and that's it. I think

698
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 2: the Rams are being rewarded for beating the team that

699
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 2: a lot of people maybe pegged as the best team

700
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 2: in the NFL, the defending champions, who have been playing

701
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 2: greats going into Week three. So but this one just

702
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 2: feels like it's going to be a really good game,

703
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: and six points feels like too much to me.

704
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, this strikes me at worse. The back

705
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: door cover by the Cardinals like a long as Murray's healthy,

706
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: they can score in three seconds if they absolutely need to,

707
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: and you know, kudos to the Rams. They do look great,

708
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: but you know they you can score off them, you

709
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: can put up points, So I agree, do you awesome?

710
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: By the way, I'll just take the over, like I

711
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: get that, like the total is high, but both teams

712
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: are going to put up points in this game, so

713
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: I will take the over this and again it's for me,

714
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: Pat And you know, again we talked about draftings. It's

715
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: actually forty fifty four and a half already, so that

716
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: maybe I'll be like, okay, fine, like fine, you've got me.

717
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: I'll stay away from it necessarily, but at fifty three

718
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: and a half, I feel okay with it. Really it's

719
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: it's there's gonna be points in this game.

720
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 2: Same, Yeah, I agree.

721
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: All right, your Packers are hosting the Steelers, laying seven

722
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: points here with the Packers and until forty seven and

723
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: a half that the Steelers, I mean, they look terrible.

724
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: They've got injuries everywhere. You know, we don't know what

725
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: receivers are going to be healthy. Their offensive line is

726
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: and shambles.

727
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 2: What do you think you're Yeah, another thing, I kind

728
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 2: of want to see the injury report for the Packers

729
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 2: and whether Elton Jenkins is back. Although they did a

730
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 2: pretty good job of protecting Aaron Rodgers without Jenkins, and

731
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 2: you know, of course David Bacciari is still out. But

732
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 2: I think the for the Packers' offensive line to hold

733
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 2: up against two pretty good pass rushes in a row

734
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 2: with that sort of loss of manpower up front might

735
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 2: be difficult. But as far as an offensive line holding up,

736
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 2: I mean, Pittsburgh can't hold up to anyone right now.

737
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 2: And the Packers finally generated a little bit of pass

738
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: rush against San Francisco on Sunday night, you have to

739
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: think they're going to be getting to big Ben Hunt Sunday.

740
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, I've seen this does look like

741
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 2: kind of a letdown spot for the Packers after that

742
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 2: emotional Sunday night victory. I'll probably walk away from this one.

743
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 2: But if you forced me to pick it, Dan, I

744
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 2: would probably take the Homer pick and lay the points

745
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 2: with the Packers.

746
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: So there are a couple of things I agree. The

747
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: problem is really is the letdown right like that is

748
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: such an emotional victory that they had there, and especially

749
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: with Rogers' history with San Francisco and everything like that,

750
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: like that that is really something on a Sunday night

751
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 1: where you're just like, this is a prime letdown spot

752
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,760
Speaker 1: for the Packers, but I don't really care pat again

753
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 1: because of how terrible the Pittsburgh offense looks right now,

754
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 1: and just like, I mean, you know what we've said.

755
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: You know you said it yesterday we were talking. It

756
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 1: was sort of like Ben. You know what Ben is doing.

757
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: He's trying to survive long enough not to throw it downfield,

758
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: but to find a three yard checkdown to Naji Harris,

759
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: I think the offense is broken. By the way, I

760
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: will say it's seven. Every single book I'm looking at

761
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: except DraftKings right now is six and a half, so

762
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 1: that I certainly feel comfortable with doing. But I will

763
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: even take it laying the seven because I think that,

764
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: you know, the Packers, because of the fact that you know,

765
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: they they look so bad in that opening game and

766
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 1: they're still two and one. They've got to win, They've

767
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: got to keep going with this. I do think that

768
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: they still are going to be good enough to come

769
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: out out with you know, firing. I'm fine taking the

770
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: over as well with forty seven half because I think

771
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh will put up enough points and I think the

772
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: Packers are going to be able to score on the team,

773
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 1: So I lean that way, but I will take the spread.

774
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: How about here, Pat? This is a I love, you know,

775
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: Broncos games man early in the season at home. Fascinating

776
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 1: to see the Broncos three to zero, laying a point

777
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: and a half to the Ravens at home. The total

778
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: is forty four and a half. What do you think

779
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: of this one?

780
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 2: Like, I think the Broncos are the play. I'm still

781
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 2: not quite on board with the Ravens. We saw them

782
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 2: just barely escape with a win against Detroit. We saw

783
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 2: them lose opening night to the Raiders. Like those injuries,

784
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 2: the JK. Dobbins injury and the forgetting Marcus Peters injury,

785
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 2: like those were so big, Like the Marcus Peters injury

786
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 2: was really a blow to that defense. And yeah, I

787
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 2: just don't think this is quite the same Ravens team

788
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 2: we've seen in the past. And I do believe in

789
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 2: this Denver defense. I mean this is a very airtight defense.

790
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: Just they can really cover in the back end. When

791
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: you've got like three or four good cornerbacks, I mean

792
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 2: that's just such a plus, Like you know that you're

793
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 2: going to be, you know, not getting repeatedly burned in

794
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 2: the passing game, and I don't think the Ravens really

795
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 2: have the firepower to do that to anyone anyway. So yeah,

796
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 2: I just like, I think this looks like a really

797
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 2: good position for Denver, even though they're sort of riding high.

798
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 2: You know, Baltimore really got grabbed by the lapels and

799
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 2: shaken a little bit by almost losing to the Lions,

800
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: so I expect them to be on their toes for

801
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 2: this one. But I just don't know if they're a

802
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 2: good enough team to like overcome that Denver defense, and

803
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 2: you know, Denver's got a pretty functional ball control offense.

804
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 2: I just think Denver might be the better team.

805
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 1: I think you're right, and it's weird to feel that way,

806
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: but especially also again, Denver at home early on in

807
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: the season is just a spot where you want to

808
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: back the Broncos because again, the thin air there. Eventually

809
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: teams are conditioned enough where it doesn't have quite as

810
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: much of an impact, but throughout September, you know, early

811
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,919
Speaker 1: on in the season, it's kind of where you want

812
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: to be here with the Broncos because again, they're kind

813
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 1: of used to it, and I mean, we'll be in

814
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: October technically when the game starts, but it is something

815
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: where first four weeks of the season, the Broncos at home,

816
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: they have a great record against the spread. There is

817
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: a reason for that. So I agree with you. I

818
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: lean the Broncos. And it feels weird to sort of

819
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: be saying that at this point, but I agree with you.

820
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: I think they're the right side. How about the Bucks

821
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: visiting the Patriots on Sunday Night Football. The spread is six,

822
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 1: so the Patriots are getting six, the totals forty nine.

823
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 2: I don't think I could take anyone but the Bucks

824
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 2: in this game now, with like I don't know, we

825
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: thought mac Jones was maybe going to be an efficient

826
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 2: game manager, but he's really not been that at all.

827
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 2: And you know, now no no James White for the

828
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 2: Panther or the Patriots. That takes away dimension of their offense,

829
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 2: and kind of an important one at that. So it's

830
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 2: hard to see how the Bucks don't win this convincingly.

831
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a great matchup, and you know, like

832
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 2: we can give Bill Belichick all the credits and he's

833
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 2: a fantastic coach, but like he likes to take away

834
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 2: one thing, what are you taking away from the Buccaneers.

835
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 2: Who are you taking away? You wait, Godwin Evans, Like,

836
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 2: I just I don't know. I can't see the Patriots

837
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 2: hanging in this one.

838
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: Nope, there's no way it's under touchdown. I will take

839
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: it any day of the week. Like, I feel very

840
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: confident the Patriots are in my and we're overrated, you know, realistically,

841
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: like the idea that Mac Jones could step in there,

842
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: and again, they don't have anybody explode, Like, they don't

843
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,959
Speaker 1: have explosive playmakers anyway, right, I mean, you know, it's

844
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: just they don't have the personnel necessarily regardless, but Jones

845
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: is you know, they're not good enough for him to

846
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,720
Speaker 1: game manage their way to victories, especially against Tom Brady

847
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 1: returning to New England off a loss. Like everything just

848
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: screams take the bucks here.

849
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's too bad, because I mean, how can

850
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 2: this game not be great theater? Like can it be

851
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 2: a great theater if it's not a close game? But

852
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 2: I just can't wait to see what it looks like.

853
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 2: But I just cannot conceive of the Patriots like winning

854
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 2: this one or making it a really really tight game.

855
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: And ps, it's essentially going to be unless I completely

856
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: misread the situation living here in New England, having basically

857
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: all my friends, my wife's entire family being Pats fans.

858
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: They their loyalty is to Brady, and at this point

859
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: over the Patriots like they were a little mad some

860
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: of them when he left, they were done. But then

861
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 1: watching him succeed now it's watching his personality come out

862
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 1: here with everything. It seems like they fully come on

863
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: board with Brady and are like whatever. Pats like, we

864
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 1: can live with whatever. So it's probably it's not even

865
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: gonna be a home build a bandage really for New

866
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: England from what I can tell, so realistically, under field

867
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 1: goal forget it. I'll take it all day long. Let's

868
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 1: get to the last game, Monday Night Football, the Chargers

869
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: at home taking on the undefeated Raiders. The Chargers are

870
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 1: three point favorites. The total is fifty two and a half.

871
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: What do you think here?

872
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 2: It's a fun, really fun way to wrap up the week.

873
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 2: Leaning Chargers in this one. I guess I just believe

874
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 2: in them a little bit more. I think that run

875
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 2: defense is a bit of an achilles. I don't know

876
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 2: if the Raiders can capitalize on that. May or May

877
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 2: not have Josh Shacobs back. We're probably not even going

878
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 2: to know when Sunday's games kick off, so that's going

879
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 2: to be confusing for fantasy people for sure. But just

880
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 2: the way the Chargers handle the Chiefs this past week,

881
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 2: I worried about kind of a sophomore slump for Justin Herbert.

882
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 2: We're not getting that at all. He looks terrific. Mike

883
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: Williams has taken another step up, like this passing game

884
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 2: is now one of the better passing games in the league,

885
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 2: no question. And you know, I just don't as good

886
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 2: as Car has been, and he is hanging up some

887
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 2: crazy yardage totals so far. I just don't think the

888
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 2: Raiders can go toe to toe with the Chargers on

889
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 2: the road.

890
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. I struggle with this, man. I mean, and I

891
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: was on the Dolphins this weekend getting four or getting

892
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: three and a half and they ultimately wound up covering.

893
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: But I kind of expected the Raiders, especially with Car

894
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 1: having the ankle injury, to be fla. You know, they

895
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 1: came out a little flat, but they got there. All

896
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: three of those receivers are getting it done. But with

897
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: that said, I agree with you like the run defense

898
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: we talked about it's fine, and we were joking about

899
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: fantasy about Peyton Barber is gonna have like forty carries

900
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: or whatever, you know this week coming in because that's

901
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: just what they do. But I agree, like, I feel

902
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: like the charters at home in this game are the

903
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: right side for it. Do you have any thoughts on

904
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: the total? Which was where I lost it? Hold on

905
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: it was fifty two and a half.

906
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 2: I kind of think there are gonna be points. I

907
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 2: think it's gonna go over. I mean, maybe I'm not

908
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 2: giving the Raiders defense enough credit. You know. Max Crosby

909
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 2: has suddenly morphed into young JJ Watt basically where he

910
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 2: just takes over games by himself. But I just feel

911
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 2: like these teams are gonna run up and down the

912
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 2: field a little bit. It has that sort of a feeling,

913
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna probably play something on the over.

914
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 1: I agree, it's you know, I hate taking the overs

915
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: on these totals, man, they're so high, But it is

916
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: the right side, you know, because again, you know the books,

917
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: you know, they know the public. Because it's so much

918
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: more fun to root force something than it is to

919
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: root against something. So all these lines are inflated, and

920
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: I just feel like it doesn't matter at this point.

921
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's two passing teams, I think, yeah, especially

922
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 2: if there's no Jacobs. I think these are two teams

923
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 2: that have to move the ball through the air and

924
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 2: it just sets up like an over game. Yeah.

925
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I agree with you, So take

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Speaker 1: an hour if you like it. All right, that's going

927
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Speaker 1: to do it. Pat, Thank you so much for joining me.

928
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Speaker 1: By the way, Pat, you know who is a new

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Speaker 1: full time edition here to our Fantas Bros and Betting

930
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: Pros team. He's going to be doing a player props

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Speaker 1: Pat and I both are fantasy rankers, as I'm sure

932
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: most people listening to this no, so we generally have

933
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: a good sense of player props in the market, and

934
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: that is a market that you can take advantage of,

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Speaker 1: generally speaking. So I'm going to be doing a weekly

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Speaker 1: player props video. Pat's going to be doing a weekly

937
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: article on some favorite player props that he likes over

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Speaker 1: here at Bettingpros dot com, So make sure to check

939
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Speaker 1: that out. Pat, again, really appreciate you joining me. You

940
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 1: can find pass work at Fantas Bros. And Betting Pros.

941
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: I usually say, where can we find more of your work?

942
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: Everybody knows at this point, but you can follow him

943
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: on Twitter at fits underscore FF. Thank you for joining us. Everybody,

944
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Speaker 1: we'll talk to again. We'll be back later in the week.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about some of our best bets for week four.