WEBVTT - Draft Show: LIVE @ The 2017 NFL Combine - Day 3 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:15.320 This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, Dallas 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:21.720 Cowboys selector Elliott and now your host Dane Brugler, David 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:26.119 Hellman and Brian brought us well, well, welcome to the 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:32.040 Draft show from the twenty seventeen Indianapolis Combine. Brian brought 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:36.120 us some Dallas Cowboys dot Com, Dame Bruglar, CBS Sports, 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:41.519 and David Hellman Dallas Cowboys dot Com, along with Kent Garrison, 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:44.320 Executive Producer. We're welcome you once again to the combine. 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:51.720 Stay three of our shows that we've done here from Indianapolis. Actually, boys, 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:55.800 we get some guys working out today. Yeah, excited about 0:00:55.840 --> 0:01:01.120 that offensive lineman and running backs we're involved. 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Uh 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:18.000 Dane offensive Lineman today And you know, it appeared to 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:23.000 me watching these young men work out that the guys 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:29.080 who we've seen as the top guys tend to tended 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:32.120 to have the better of the workouts if you look 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:35.280 at the way the numbers, you know, and the guys 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:38.519 that you know with the with the the Garrett bowls, 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:44.440 you know, guys like that, Uh, Forced Lamp Dawkins. I thought, yeah, 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:47.760 you know, f Line, I thought Phoeney. You know, there 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:52.480 were some guys that we've talked about as the top 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:55.680 prospects and and we've we've said this though, maybe that 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:59.360 offensive line group. You know, Cam Robinson another guy, you know, 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:01.960 and I I thought Cam Robinson, you know, I didn't 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:05.080 think he was gonna do as well athletically, but today 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:07.960 he sure proved me wrong in that way. But it 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:10.919 just appeared that the guys that we've seen the best 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:14.080 on tape tended to have the best workouts today. And 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:17.360 that's what the combine is all about. The combine is 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:20.799 a cross checking exercise to make sure that the numbers 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:22.720 match up with what you saw on tape. And I 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:24.919 think you're right. I think Garrett Bowles, who is a 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:27.840 fantastic athlete, you see them on tape, and he showed 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:30.760 it here. He finished top five in every single category. 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:34.320 Every you know, you don't see Lyman run forty yard 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:37.720 dashes on the field, but when you see what he 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:41.440 did in the three cone, the vertical, the short shuttle, 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:45.000 that translates and for different reasons, you know, the vertical 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:49.160 jump shows lower body explosion. Three cone shows the flexibility, 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:51.720 change of direction, and so for a player like Bowls, 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:55.120 I think he confirmed what we saw on tape and 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:57.800 same thing with a lot of these guys. Dion Dawkins 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:00.960 another guy for US lamp. So I don't think there 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:04.640 was a huge, uh, you know difference. And the running 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:06.480 backs might be a little different. We'll talk about about 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:08.440 that in a minute. But I think for the linemen, 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:11.680 I think what happened here today at the combine matched 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:13.400 up with what we saw on tape. Yeah, if you 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:16.760 talk about Bowls and you know he's he's a guy 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:19.520 that where you're trying to figure out I had questions 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:22.240 about his strength when you watch the Utah tape. I 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:24.200 wanted to see him bench press. That's really the only 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:27.760 thing he didn't do. David the numbers safe, you know 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:31.200 for him, twenty eight on the vertical jump, nine to 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:35.360 seven on the broad, seven two nine on the three 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:37.839 cone drill. That tells us a lot about you know, 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:39.599 Dame is always saying, hey, if you could get a 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:44.440 guy under seven, right, that was kind of the benchmark. Though, 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:47.720 here's a guy, but but you know, you look at 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:50.960 a guy and he was real close at seven point 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:53.640 two nine, you know, and that's a heck of a 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:56.080 number right there. So he put up the same vertical 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:58.480 as Leonard, Yeah, he sure did. And we'll get into 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:00.840 that as well. But and then we're five five in 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:04.120 the twenty shuttle, So and that's you know that that 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:07.400 tells you a lot about him. You also, you know, 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:11.160 you were mentioning Dion Dawkins and here's another guy, he's 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:14.400 a There's some guys in this draft again, David, that 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:20.000 they're projecting, they're tackles that are playing guards. It just 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:23.320 seems like to me that there's more of a projection, 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:27.200 and correct me if I'm wrong. Guys, more people are saying, oh, 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:29.279 he's a tackle, should be playing guard. He's aid. You 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:33.160 know that that seems to be the feeling in this 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:35.760 combine or the feeling with this class, right. Don't you 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:37.560 feel like that's kind of been a trend though. I mean, 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:40.880 we can obviously point to Zach Martin Sheriff as another 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:44.120 guy like that. Uh Lyle Collins two Cowboys. Actually, I 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:46.240 mean it's see and I don't know if that's the 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:48.680 way that college football teams are playing right now, if 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:51.599 it's a scheme thing, or if it's just luck basically 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:53.280 I don't know. But you know, over the Latin as 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:55.720 long as we've been doing this show, it seems like 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:59.320 every year there's a tackle prospect or three that people 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:01.240 like better as a guard. Well, somebody's gonna have to 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:03.880 play tackle in this group. Yeah, you know. And I 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:06.120 and I kept hearing, haven't we've been, I mean, we've 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:09.640 been saying, well, Cam Robinson, I mean, is this is 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:12.120 this not, for lack of a better word, of crappy 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:14.920 tackle class? No, I do, but the best of them, 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:16.760 all out of all of them. We didn't see today 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:19.480 ram Check because he's still recovering from his hip injury, right, 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:21.880 and he's and yeah, ram Check, and he's what talking 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:24.920 about five months? Five months? And he you know, it's 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:27.600 it's an injury that he had surgery about eight eight 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:30.479 weeks ago, right about two months. He's still with a hip, right, 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:33.200 And so we probably don't see him work out prior 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:36.480 to the draft. So, uh, you're nervous about doing that 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:39.440 making that pick. I hate I hate picking guys who 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:41.680 and again we've talked about it already. I don't like 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:44.480 picking guys who can't, who aren't healthy when they're picked. 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:46.719 I have a problem with linemen that aren't healthy to 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:49.440 begin with. You know, it just seems like to me, 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:53.120 but you know, ram check, he's he's might be depending 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:55.800 on who you like. You know, I see what I 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:59.240 Robinson I talked about. You know, you know six six, 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:02.080 You know you look at the measurables with Cam Robinson, 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:06.400 you know, six six three twenty two pounds and he 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:10.440 comes blowing down there at a five one five? You know, 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:14.640 is he is he growing on you? It's an lsu man. 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:16.880 I have to say an Alabama player is growing on 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:20.280 But I'm thinking I watched the tape of that guy 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:22.280 with you, and you were not impressed. I was not 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:25.880 impressed because I didn't see the athletic ability. But he's 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:27.560 showing you he's got it right here. Well he did, 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:30.239 That's what I'm saying. That's where that's the biggest problem 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:33.040 I had is and Dane always likes to talk about this, 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:35.440 if you see athletic ability, to go back and watch 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:38.400 the tape and again the tape. I don't think the 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:41.160 tape lies about that. No, But I didn't see a 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:43.720 great athlete there. But today I saw I saw a 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:46.880 guy for that size be a great big difference. I 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:50.600 think with Lineman is with Lineman, there's always contact and 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:53.040 so you have to have that contact balance, and that's 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:56.400 where I think Cam Robinson really fall short. Uh you know, 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:59.480 he's he's lunging all the time. More of a technique issue, 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:03.880 but the contact balance, that's where I really worry about 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.120 Robinson and being able to hold up and how that'll 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:10.720 trade right. So you know, against air, he's looked pretty 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:12.640 good today, but when you throw on the tape and 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:16.000 he's asked to you know, Mano Imano, and you know, 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:19.960 the technique falls apart the contact balances and issues. So 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:22.600 you know, I think it's and I'm not trying to 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:23.880 trash the guy. I think you know, he had a 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:26.400 solid workout and that's what you want to see. Uh. 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:29.240 But you know, especially for him, the tape will matter 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:31.400 much more than any result he put tea. You expect 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:34.000 him to be as athletic as he was today. I 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:35.719 mean yeah, because I'm think he's a bad athlete. I 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:37.880 just think he has balance problems. Yeah, you know, and 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:39.760 that's see if you have a balanced problems, to me, 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:43.040 I feel like you're not really you know, because there's 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:46.040 there's some guys that were that were flailing around it. Right, 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:47.880 You can be quick footed, you know you can. But 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:50.080 if you have balance issues and you don't have the 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:53.760 technique to help out to mask those issues, and then 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:56.800 you're in trouble. And that's with Cam Robinson. Uh. You know, 0:08:56.840 --> 0:08:58.520 you don't want to see him lunging. You don't want 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:00.880 to see him falling off balance. It's onto the ground. 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:03.160 There's a lot of things on tape that were you 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:06.960 being a natural athlete, being quick footed wasn't necessarily one 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:10.920 of them for me at least, right, Yeah, your favorite 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:14.439 offensive lineman in this draft? Would it be Forest Lamp? 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:18.200 I have Ramcheck rated higher and okay, okay, the guys 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:20.800 that worked today, I'm right, the guys that worked today, Yes, Lamp. 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:22.719 To me, that's the guy. I think he's a first 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:25.960 round player. I've used the Zach Martin comparison quite a bit. 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:29.800 I think that makes sense. Even NFL Network they compared 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:31.800 him to Zach Martin. I think it makes too much sense. 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:35.600 Uh this not only you know, the left tackle, moving 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:38.880 inside the guard, but the skill set what he does best. 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:41.960 Think the strengths matchup a guy that you could potentially 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:44.240 kick out to tackle if you needed him to but 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:47.160 just with his skill set, it's just better suited inside 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:49.959 a guard. He had a pretty fine day to day. 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:53.280 I thought he did well. Uh you know, it was athletic, 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:55.839 moved around well, so the body control. So I think 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:59.679 Forrest lamp cemented himself as definitely a guy that's going 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:02.640 to be in the round discussion. Probably the first guard drafted, 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:06.480 Probably the first guard drafted. You know, I go back 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:09.720 to this and I keep I'm looking for a tackle. Yeah, 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:12.520 I mean I feel like I'm hammering. I'm I'm sorry, 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:15.160 I'm just being this point. I'm looking for a tackle. Though. 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:18.959 It just seems like there's better guards in this draft. 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:21.120 And if you're a team, and we saw plenty of 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:25.160 teams David last year that struggled with offensive line play, yeah, 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:27.640 you know, look at a playoff team, even like the 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:30.319 Seattle Seahawks. How about a playoff team in the New 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:32.400 York Giants and the New York Giants. Yeah, well, the 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:34.200 Seahawks are the big one for sure. I mean they're 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:36.400 famous for not having exact for not having a line. 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:39.160 I mean, you could you could you know they're they're in. 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:41.960 I think there's some teams that might be in a 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:44.840 little bit or hurt. You know, if they're looking for 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:49.760 offensive tackle help, but the guard help is clearly there selfishly, 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:54.360 that's I mean, well, you applaud the Cowboys plan, well, 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:56.520 now what they have in place, not only their plan, 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:58.920 but I applaud their good luck that you know, of 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:01.280 all the positions that they need to work on, they 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:04.040 should have a deep pool for most of them, whereas 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:06.320 you know, and if they needed a tackle, and you 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:08.360 get I mean sure they need in a way they 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:09.960 maybe they do need to tackle. You don't know what 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:12.240 the deal is with Chaz Green dubbed freezing getting old, 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:14.720 blah blah blah. But in terms of like an immediate needs, 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:16.840 you know, I wouldn't peg them up there as a 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.000 team that's sweating the fact that there aren't a lot 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:22.320 of tackles to choose. From the numbers for four Slamp 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:25.880 they got him at six o three five, so almost 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:29.080 six four three hundred and nine pounds. He's got the 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:33.679 thirty two and a quarter arms was measured, and then 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:36.720 ten and five eights on the hands. The official forty 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:40.760 for him was five flat thirty four with the bench 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:44.160 That that itself surprised me a little bit. I didn't 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:47.280 expect him to do thirty four reps. No, No, I 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:49.680 mean I think he played strong, but I didn't expect 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:53.200 thirty four that you know, going that way. But that 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:56.600 was impressive. Twenty seven and a half on the vertical, 0:11:56.720 --> 0:12:00.320 nine three on the broad jump, seven five five on 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:04.120 the three cone, and four six two in the twenty shuttle. 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:10.600 So those were the numbers for mister Lamp today. I 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:14.520 think danger right, I he's he he's the first guard 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:19.160 off the board. Yeah, we'll see about ram Check if 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:22.120 he's the first tackle or will somebody like you know 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:25.320 Robinson better And let's say, okay, can we can we 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:28.119 compare now a little bit? I'm just thinking back. Okay, 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:30.800 you know Schurf was a top ten pick at guard. 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:35.160 Martin went what sixteen? Martin went sixteen? Yes, and then 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:37.560 you know Brandon Flowers went nine. I know he's a tackle, 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:41.520 but I'm just thinking of lineman nine. I mean, where's 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:44.120 the first offensive lineman going off the board in this class? 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:47.600 And give me a range. I mean, if it's we're 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:51.480 talking Lamp and then ram sick probably, So it's tough 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:53.720 because I think ram Check's the top twenty player. It 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:56.240 just comes down to comfort with the injury. You know, 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:59.840 if you're comfortable with him not being able to see 0:12:59.880 --> 0:13:01.800 him work out prior to the draft, he's a top 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:04.800 twenty pick all day. But that's a big if we 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:07.560 cannot We cannot be going into a draft where an 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:11.360 offensive lineman will not be drafted in the first round. No, no, no, 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:13.680 there will definitely be. There's just too much of a need. 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:16.160 That's what exactly across the league, you know. So I 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:19.440 definitely think we'll see lamp but the best one is hurt. 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:23.040 Does that that's scary? Okay, I'm gonna be self centered 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:27.199 again and say, does that favor the Cowboys because you're 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:30.640 talking about teams reaching for offensive lineman? You know, you're 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:35.040 drafting guys that maybe don't belong there, right leaving more Cowboys. 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:38.280 The Cowboys have had some good fortune with that. I 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:42.200 think with guys that, you know, the Flowers, you know 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:46.120 that was a reach. You loved that pick Flowers in 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:48.319 terms of you love it because I loved it. If 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:50.439 you're Giants didn't, yeah, I loved it. That the fact 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:53.439 I'm all I'm all for the Giants continue to draft guys. 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:55.760 I mean, hey, hey, they beat the Cowboys twice I 0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:58.400 get it, you know, but no, but I think I mean, 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:02.280 you're sitting here, you're telling me that's San Francisco. Howly 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:05.520 would San how early would San Francisco take a take 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:08.360 an offensive line. They're picking two, so hopefully not with 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:10.240 their first pick. Yeah, that's I'm saying. There's not a 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:13.360 guy that you would say. Sometimes we've seen offensive line 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:15.640 and go way up the pot. Well, Eric Fisher, Luke 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:19.000 Jokele John Jake Long back in the day. I mean, 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:22.000 it's a tackle is one of the most important positions 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:24.440 in football. So it's crazy to me to think that 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:27.480 we're talking and yeah, I think you're right, Dane, that 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:30.280 somebody will get drafted, but we're not talking about a lot. 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:32.280 And I mean, what do you think the average is 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:35.080 over the last few years? Four problem four in the 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:36.920 first Yeah, at least four in the first round, if 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:40.280 not more, and now maybe one. That's crazy to me. Yeah, 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:43.720 it is crazy because we've seen a tradition in the 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:46.600 past though, where there has been offensive lineman. Okay, let's 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:49.240 get onto these running backs. There we go, and uh, 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:52.240 you know, and and I'll and I'll open I always 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:54.280 like to throw the broad into question at you Dane. 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:57.280 You know what we talked about. We came into the 0:14:57.320 --> 0:15:00.400 day thinking about four net is he two head? Is 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:02.080 it the waterway? What is it? What is it? With 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:04.840 four nette? He vertical jumps twenty eight and a half. 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:07.640 Everybody then goes, oh my gosh, sky is falling. Then 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:10.240 he goes out and runs four five one in his 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:12.360 forty yard dash, actually goes four to five one, four 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:16.160 five two. Concerned there did everybody? Did? He just shut 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:19.720 everybody up running that speed, running that time at at 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:22.600 four five one. I think if he ran like in 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:25.520 the four at low four fives, mid four fours, you 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:27.640 think he goes faster and baton rouge, don't you? Oh? 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:32.000 Of course they always do. But the trouble is, how 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:36.800 do you measure the poor vertical with the solid forty 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:40.920 yard dash time? You know you can't. You don't. I'm 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:43.400 a big believer, and you don't ignore it. Numbers. Okay, 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:45.400 if a player turns in at twenty and a half 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:47.920 inch vert you know the fact that he's just never 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:50.400 been a good jumper isn't really good enough? You know, 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:53.560 you know, the vertical and the vertical jump in the 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:55.960 broad jumper, not just about how high or far you 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:59.280 can jump. It's about lower body explosion, explosion, and so 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:01.560 you know, and you watch the tape for and that's 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:03.640 an explosive player. He I mean, he's not an elite 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:06.320 explosive player, but he's kind of like Zeke where you know, 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:09.880 he has that sneaky explosion to him and he'll run 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:12.600 over you. But it didn't match up here with the numbers. 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:15.920 So the question is why, why is this a player 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:19.840 who looks explosive on tape but posted a vertical or 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:23.280 a vertical jump that four or five offensive alignement invested? 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:26.560 Sure you know who are carrying, you know, eighty ninety 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:30.040 pounds more, and so it's it's I think the forty 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:32.200 yard dash definitely help bring a four or five one 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:34.720 that helps you kind of overlook the number. But I 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:36.800 don't think you can just ignore that twenty eight and 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:38.600 a half. I'll tell you what, if he'd ran four 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:41.320 to six, four to six, I would have been right 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:44.480 there with you. But I think that I think there's 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:47.240 plenty of tape, And you're the big trusted tape guy, 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:49.320 and I agree with you on this. There's plenty of 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:51.880 tape where he's playing with explosive. I'm not saying change 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:55.280 a grade, yeah, but but I'm also saying concern. Yeah, 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:57.000 but you don't ignore the number either. I think you 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:59.320 do a little bit more research, you figure, Okay, is 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:01.920 you overweight? Uh? You know, I think that's his biggest 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:04.240 problem exactly. I think he's gonna go to the pro 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:06.240 day be two hundred and thirty three pounds two or 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:09.159 thirty five pounds, and he's gonna jump if you can 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:12.240 get into thirty thirty, thirty and a half thirty one. 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:13.880 I mean, Zeke had a thirty two and a half 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:16.240 inch vert so you know, if he comes within a 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:18.680 couple inches of that, um, you know, I think he'll 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:21.439 be just fine. So I think that might be more 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:23.280 of a case more of the reason just being a 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:27.320 little bit overweight. But no, no one is changing there, 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:29.600 or at least no one should change their grade on 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:32.640 Leonard Fournette based on that vertical leap. You just kind 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:35.240 of have to take it into context with everything else. 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:38.280 If you're a Leonard Fournette and you're you know, you're 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:40.680 one A or one B running back in the draft, 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:43.000 and you had all this time to prepare, I almost 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:44.960 have to think it was a conscious decision to come 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:47.080 here at two forty, you know, like, it's not like 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:48.639 he did that on accident, or I would hope not. 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:50.879 I hope he didn't do that on accident, which just 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:53.720 makes me wonder. I wasn't sure at two forty if 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:56.280 he was really working out and then and then the 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:59.679 vertical And we've discussed him yesterday about this love for 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:01.840 foot ball. I guess I guess I'm giving him the 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:04.280 benefit of the doubt. I was trying. Yeah, he's been 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:07.400 working out, but he seemed surprised at his vertical lead 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:09.960 it was so low. Yeah, because it wasn't until after 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:11.880 the low number there that he decided not to do 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:14.400 the broad jump. I agree. I think he was worried 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:17.280 for back to back problems there. So has he not 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:20.119 been practicing the vertical jump and the broad you know, 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:24.040 it's I think there's some questions there if it definitely 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:26.600 bears asking. I mean, that's and honestly, I think and 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:28.280 I was going to say, the other thing is it's 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:30.439 working against him because he's such a freak that you 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:32.960 expect freakish numbers. I mean, four five one is a 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:35.200 great time for a two hundred and forty pound running back. 0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:37.640 But I think I was, and people were a little 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:40.040 bit disappointed that he couldn't crack into the four fours 0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:43.760 because you have that expectation. He was. He was talking 0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:46.280 to clubs last night as I'm going to run in 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:48.879 the four four. Yeah, I mean that was his and 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:52.040 I think the vertical jump shocked him, which I really do. 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:55.560 I think it mentally messed him up. I hope that 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:57.840 with everything that's on the line for him and any 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:00.320 and this isn't just Leonard Fournette, any prospect, Like, I 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:02.399 hope he didn't come here just thinking like all I 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:04.800 gotta do is show up, you know, like the time 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:07.040 for that is past, Like this is the NFL now 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:09.400 right now. Yeah, I want to get back into these 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:12.280 running backs. We're gonna take our first break, gonna do 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:14.520 some twitter on the twenty, and I want to revisit 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:16.359 some of these running backs and some of the things 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:18.960 that had happened there. I think there's it's a very 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:21.600 very interesting group. 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Seems like he's making a good impression 0:22:53.960 --> 0:22:56.600 here at the combine. Turn some heads with his bench press, 0:22:57.520 --> 0:23:00.639 which you expected, you know, with the Uh he's a 0:23:00.640 --> 0:23:03.440 built dude. Uh, so you kind of expected that upper 0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:07.439 body strength. Uh put up what thirty reps? Reps? Yes, 0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:09.800 so not many running backs go over the thirty mark. 0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:12.520 Some ejap Ryan was want of them to do that. 0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:14.920 You know, the forty yard dish not as impressive for 0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:18.560 six five, but that's not his game. He's not a 0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:23.600 speedy type of back m but you know, it's not something. 0:23:23.680 --> 0:23:25.280 So I don't think the four six five should change 0:23:25.280 --> 0:23:28.680 anyone's opinion of p Ryan. U to me, I see 0:23:28.720 --> 0:23:31.320 a second day player, a guy that should be considered 0:23:31.320 --> 0:23:35.000 in the top one hundred picks. Uh, the vision, the power, 0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:39.520 very tough inside runner. H I don't know. I see 0:23:39.560 --> 0:23:42.240 a player who is I would consider in the in 0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:44.920 the third round. What about you? Did you see that player? Yeah? 0:23:44.920 --> 0:23:47.240 I was. I actually went a little bit later than that. 0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:49.160 I thought he was more of a fourth round type 0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:51.639 of a player that's actually perfect. Because Herb was wondering 0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:54.399 if yeah, I just feel like though that Dane tried 0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:57.119 about this guy and you, I think he's more of 0:23:57.119 --> 0:23:59.560 a powerful runner than he is, like you said the 0:23:59.600 --> 0:24:02.760 allusion SIVs speedy guy. I think he works really really 0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:05.320 hard to finish his runs. I mean you will see 0:24:05.440 --> 0:24:08.959 him try and fight and to get every yard he can. 0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:11.480 I thought I thought he caught the ball well in 0:24:11.520 --> 0:24:13.760 the drills today. Though they threw some balls to him, 0:24:14.000 --> 0:24:15.880 the flat stuff he was able to do. I don't 0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:17.720 think you want him running a lot of stuff down 0:24:17.720 --> 0:24:20.640 the field. I think that's more Mixon's game getting down 0:24:20.640 --> 0:24:22.720 the field. But this guy, if you throw it to 0:24:22.800 --> 0:24:24.800 him in the flat, he could turn get up the field. 0:24:25.680 --> 0:24:28.680 His numbers as we were talking about though, you know 0:24:28.720 --> 0:24:31.120 the four, six, five, like Dane was talking about thirty 0:24:31.160 --> 0:24:34.160 times with the reps, thirty three with the vertical nine 0:24:34.240 --> 0:24:37.159 eight with the broad jump right there, so that was 0:24:37.240 --> 0:24:39.600 kind of his day right there, and you know he's 0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:41.679 not a lot of people talk about him because of 0:24:41.720 --> 0:24:45.679 what Mixon was has done. But a solid player, like 0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:51.200 Dane says, though probably third fourth round consideration Xavier or Zavier. Sorry, 0:24:51.200 --> 0:24:54.240 I don't know which you wrote about this, Brian. He 0:24:54.320 --> 0:24:59.440 wants to know how much buzz TCU tackle Aviante Collins generated. Well, 0:24:59.600 --> 0:25:02.240 you can on every year going to the combine and 0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:05.560 you have two or three players that you haven't seen 0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:08.560 that you need to see, and then somebody works out 0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:10.960 really really well at the combine and you and then 0:25:11.040 --> 0:25:13.199 all of a sudden, now you're like, okay, you know, 0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:15.920 Dane and I were actually talking to each other while 0:25:16.040 --> 0:25:19.600 collins workout was going on. It's six four two ninety 0:25:19.640 --> 0:25:23.119 five pounds official time of a four eight one thirty 0:25:23.119 --> 0:25:26.840 four on the vertical. Got nicked up while the drills 0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:28.639 were going on, so he didn't get to do the 0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:31.560 vertical and all the other stuff that you saw there, 0:25:31.680 --> 0:25:34.600 So a little bit disappointing. If he had done that, 0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:37.120 maybe would have had the best combined workout of all 0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:39.960 the guys. I have not seen the player myself. You 0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:43.080 were kind of talking about you'd watched some t sue tape, 0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:46.040 but you did nothing really caught your eye with Collins, 0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:48.639 if I'm right. No, But what some these results do 0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:50.840 is it's gonna make it makes us. Now go watch 0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:53.040 the ten and not only us, but thirty two teen. Right, 0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:55.240 you know they're gonna go back and say, Okay, you know, 0:25:55.320 --> 0:25:57.760 we knew he was athletic, but right, you know, is 0:25:57.760 --> 0:26:00.560 he this athletic one happens every year? Back and watch 0:26:00.600 --> 0:26:03.320 the tape and say, okay, there's something here. He's an athlete. 0:26:03.760 --> 0:26:06.200 How will that translate? Maybe we can mold him into 0:26:06.359 --> 0:26:09.360 you know, build his body, fix the technique issues, get 0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:12.840 more consistency out of him. But you can't teach athleticism 0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:14.639 either you have it or you don't, especially for a 0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:17.520 big man. And so teams are gonna go back, study 0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:19.439 a little bit more, find out what they have. Yeah, 0:26:19.480 --> 0:26:21.359 but you had not seen the player before, had you. 0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:25.400 I've one of his games and I didn't see enough 0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:28.520 to make me get excited about doing another. You know, 0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:32.520 I that's something it happens here. Yeah, it's not like yest, 0:26:32.920 --> 0:26:35.639 Yeah it next. Yeah, it's not like you. It's you know, 0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:37.960 you do just because he has these these numbers doesn't 0:26:37.960 --> 0:26:39.800 mean he's a good player, right, You mean he know 0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:41.840 he could flop in the tape, there's no doubt. But 0:26:42.080 --> 0:26:43.680 what it does is it causes us to go back 0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:46.200 and make sure that you know we're not missing something 0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:50.000 because he's in press. I don't even know what we 0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:52.280 can say about this, but it seems worth addressing because 0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:55.440 our favorite guy, Ian Rappapors out on the Twitter sphere 0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:57.480 talking about three see him in the hallway a lot 0:26:57.600 --> 0:27:01.560 NFL trade. Let's play fantasy football. Mat Matthew wants to 0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:04.600 know about a three way trade. He says, no way, 0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:10.640 right L O L. I don't so ras the last 0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:14.640 time an NFL pulled I know, and I've been doing 0:27:14.680 --> 0:27:16.760 this since night. I can't remember three way if you're 0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:21.000 not privy. Rappaport is talking about, uh, Washington sending Kirk 0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:24.439 Cousins to San Francisco and then Dallas sending Romo to 0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:27.720 Washington and a bunch of picks being involved. I don't know. 0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:30.760 It was a very cryptic tweet. It sounds ridiculous, but 0:27:30.840 --> 0:27:33.520 I also thought to be to be totally fair, and 0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:35.880 it's a completely different situation because he was a free agent. 0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:38.560 But I thought it was absolutely ridiculous to think that 0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:41.080 DeMarco Murray would wind up in Philly too. I said that, 0:27:41.280 --> 0:27:43.840 I said that on the record, and that's what happened. 0:27:43.880 --> 0:27:46.479 So yeah, I mean, anything's possible, but that just sounds 0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:49.200 ludicrous to me, it does. I mean, well, and we'll 0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:51.440 have the opportunity to visit with Jerry Jones tomorrow. Yeah, 0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:53.479 so they'll be a good opportunity for eyes to the end, 0:27:54.520 --> 0:27:56.720 Dave Hellman will break the story that there's a three 0:27:56.720 --> 0:27:58.760 way trade. We're in the works. Jerry's gonna sit down 0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:00.840 to me, like, so we're sending Romo. Washington's gonna hand 0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:02.639 David Miller lite and then the next thing you know, 0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:04.840 Dave is gonna break the story there's a three way trade. 0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:07.600 Sounds great, Sanci If I got to break that trade, 0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:09.760 are you kidding me? I'd buy I'd buy you all 0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:13.480 dinner at Saint Elmo tomorrow. How about that day? Three 0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:15.479 times for you in one week? Can't owe me on that? 0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:18.440 If only? But it's not gonna happen. I don't say 0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:20.680 it's not happening. I just don't see it happening either. 0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:24.440 I really really don't not the Dave breaking the story part. 0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:26.440 Oh well, that's not gonna that's not gonna happen either, 0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:29.480 But thank you. Um, this is way more up y'all's Alley, 0:28:29.640 --> 0:28:32.240 Carlos and Carlos, I'm gonna call you out because I 0:28:32.320 --> 0:28:35.159 know for a fact that Dane mocked Carl Lawson to 0:28:35.280 --> 0:28:38.800 Dallas at some point at least, but he says, uh, 0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:43.080 Carl Lawson is not being mocked in any first round projections. 0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:45.720 Is he worth? Is he worth it at twenty eight? 0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:48.360 Why isn't he getting more buzz? Which I do agree 0:28:48.400 --> 0:28:49.920 with that part. I feel like he's kind of the 0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:53.680 forgotten guy when you talk about late round pass rushers. 0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:56.240 When you hear about Tack, you hear about Harris, you 0:28:56.240 --> 0:28:58.920 don't hear Lawson's name is often. I think it belongs there. Uh. 0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:02.640 You know, these pass rushers are gonna go quick, uh 0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:04.360 and we're gonna see that on draft day, and so 0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:07.840 Losson he's gonna be, you know, the consolation prize for 0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:11.160 the team that does not get uh those edge rushers 0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:14.000 you just mentioned. So there's a lot to like with Losson. 0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:17.640 I talk about how his lower body, his lower body quickness, 0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:20.760 his upper body power, he uses both of those in Unison. 0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:23.240 Now he's not the biggest guy, uh, you know, only 0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:25.480 about six one, but he uses that leverage to his 0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:29.440 advantage to ben get underneath. Uh you know, I've used that. 0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:31.640 I've talked about this before, but Larrymy Tunsel mentioned that 0:29:31.760 --> 0:29:35.400 Lawson was the toughest pass rusher he ever faced. And 0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:37.480 Larrymy Tunsel's the best tackle we've seen come out of 0:29:37.520 --> 0:29:39.560 the draft in the last few years. So there's a 0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:41.920 lot to like there. Um, I don't think you know. 0:29:42.080 --> 0:29:45.720 To me, the easy comparisons Brandon Graham with the Eagles, Uh, 0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:50.040 just skill set wise comparison, it makes a lot of sense. 0:29:50.080 --> 0:29:53.080 Cowboy killer. Yeah, and for those reasons, I believe he 0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:55.480 is worth a first round pick, and at twenty eight, 0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:58.520 with maybe all other options wiped out, it's not a 0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:01.000 bad way to go. Yeah, and you like Davison. You 0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:03.640 mocked him to Dallas at one point, so yeah, yeah, 0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:07.000 I totally agree with Dane here. And I'm agreeing with 0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:09.160 you way too much. It's probably making some bad show, 0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:11.320 but I'll agree with you here. I mean, I'm just 0:30:11.320 --> 0:30:13.600 looking at my notes. I saw a guy that can 0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:15.240 hold the point of attack. I saw a guy that 0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:17.240 was strong handed, I saw a guy that could get 0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:20.520 the corner. I saw a guy that can quickly disengage. 0:30:20.760 --> 0:30:22.600 I saw a guy that could kick inside if you 0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:25.520 needed to in the Nickels situation, and play him as 0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:27.760 a tackle if you want to rush. He's got the 0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:31.080 power to get the blockers off balance. There's a lot 0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:33.480 to like about Carl Lawson here, and I think the 0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:40.800 Brandon Graham comparison is absolutely right spot on with him 0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:45.840 in this situation. Sam's got a good one, he says. No, 0:30:45.920 --> 0:30:48.160 I'm sorry, not Sam. Chris says, who do you think 0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:54.640 is better taco or McKinley? And why two different flavors 0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:56.920 of ice cream there? Yep? I mean you have one 0:30:57.120 --> 0:31:01.280 tacos more of that left end a sending pass rusher 0:31:01.360 --> 0:31:05.200 where I think Tack obviously the better athlete. Not as 0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:07.640 big only you know, about six two and a half 0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:11.360 two hundred and fifty pounds, but he's a speedster. I 0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:14.880 can't wait to see him work out. He's on Sunday, Yeah, 0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:17.440 defensive linement on Sunday. So eager to see what he 0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:20.160 does in the forty what he does in the change 0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:22.080 of direction drills. I think he's gonna blow it up 0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:24.720 where a taco. I don't expect him to do as well. 0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:26.480 I think he'll be average. I think he'll come in, 0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:29.240 you know, right around where he needs to be. But 0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:31.640 you know, it depends what kind of rusher do you 0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:34.640 want who makes the bigger impact for me? I take 0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:38.040 the guy with the better athleticism. But with that said, 0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:41.320 he also has some injury stuff, so all those things 0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:44.360 factored in. You know, I wouldn't be surprised if Tacos 0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:47.600 drafted first or tax drafted first. Two pretty good names 0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:50.200 there by the way, yep. But I lean McKinley. And 0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:52.200 that's if if you're gonna just boil it down to 0:31:52.200 --> 0:31:55.440 those two, i'd lean McKinley. Yeah. McKinley measured in at 0:31:55.480 --> 0:31:59.000 six two, two hundred and fifty pounds, thirty four and 0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:02.280 three quarters arms nine and three quarters hands, great length, 0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:05.080 arm length, yeah, and then six two yeah, and Taco 0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:07.240 came in. And this is where Dane's trying to explain 0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:09.680 to you what it is. Taco comes in at six 0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:13.920 five really about six six h five five, so almost 0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:17.320 sixty six, two hundred and seventy seven pounds, So it's 0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:19.800 a different mean you're talking with twenty seven pounds difference 0:32:19.880 --> 0:32:22.200 right there. But the thing about McKinley, I think that 0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:24.960 McKinley does a better job of getting the corner. I 0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:28.120 really do. I mean, you know, with with with Taco, 0:32:28.360 --> 0:32:32.520 you see him play disengage or you see him be 0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:35.280 engaged and not quickly get rid of somebody to get 0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:39.000 to the quarterback. I His play, in my opinion, is 0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:41.040 more of a guy that plays. Is that left in 0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:44.240 where McKinley, to me could be the right end. Put 0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:46.000 the hand on the ground, play him a little wider 0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:47.880 and let him go to the football. And I've said 0:32:47.880 --> 0:32:50.360 this before, but when I watched Taco at Michigan, it 0:32:50.400 --> 0:32:52.640 reminds me and when I watched Justin tuck Gett, Notre 0:32:52.680 --> 0:32:56.360 Dame said a bunch, And I think that's a good player. 0:32:56.440 --> 0:33:00.040 So there's promise there. There's playing a promise. But in 0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:02.480 terms of the speedster that's gonna capture the edge, wrapped 0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:05.520 the tackle, uh, that's definitely McKinley. I think we both 0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:08.960 agree we'd rather have him. Absolutely, I'm I and y'all 0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:11.000 are the draft experts. But I've already said this, like 0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:14.080 I can't I can't get into the right end left 0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:17.000 in just I just want a good football player, like 0:33:17.040 --> 0:33:20.120 I'm I'm I'm no, You're it's fair, but I'm just 0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:22.800 I'm drawn toward Taco Charlton because I've seen him and 0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:26.680 I just like he's a damn good football very steady, 0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:28.840 just doesn't make a lot of wild plays. His name 0:33:28.880 --> 0:33:31.160 is Fred. Would you still like him? Yes? I would, Yes, 0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:33.240 I would, But I wouldn't like Charlton. I wouldn't like 0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:35.400 him as much if his name was Fred. I just 0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:37.840 like I said, I just I think that he makes 0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:42.600 He's a steady player that I'm looking for the way 0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:45.400 you are making my point for me, and it's like 0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:48.840 at twenty eight, I'm just basically assuming I'm I'm not 0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:51.040 gonna get a wild player. You can get a wild 0:33:51.040 --> 0:33:53.360 player in the stream. Give me the high floor guy. 0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:55.520 Give me the guy with the high floor that even 0:33:55.520 --> 0:33:57.560 if he doesn't have a great seat, like, he's just good. 0:33:57.880 --> 0:34:02.360 You know, Byron Jones? Is that Byron Jones for you? 0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:04.960 I mean that was where that's gotta the same pick 0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:07.680 you got there? If you didn't we think Byron Jones 0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:10.359 had a high ceiling based on his athletic ability. Though yeah, 0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:13.000 I would say, did we twist jer arm On that one. 0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:15.040 I don't think. No, I'm just I don't think. I 0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:18.560 don't remember saying Byron Jones was like, there's nothing spectacular 0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:20.799 about Byron Jones other than the fact he broad jumped 0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:22.879 twelve feet. But didn't we think he could grow into 0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:25.160 a back, thought he could play two positions based on 0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:27.000 his athletic I think we thought both. He had a 0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:29.640 high ceiling and a high floor. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, 0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:32.120 if if Chaco Charlton's got a high floor in a 0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:34.080 low ceiling, I'll take that at twenty eight, if I 0:34:34.080 --> 0:34:35.520 can just plug him in and have him be a 0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:37.799 solid player. Don't you feel like the Cowboys have a 0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:39.759 lot of Taco Charlton's on their team right now at 0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:44.279 defensive end. Yeah, but they're not gonna find I got 0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:46.120 a bag of tacos. You're not gonna find von Miller 0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:49.000 at twenty eighth. We got a bag of tacos. You're not. 0:34:49.320 --> 0:34:51.200 You're not gonna find as many tacos as you want. 0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:53.560 You're not. I'm getting hungry. You're not gonna find Miller 0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:56.440 talking about TACCOs. Yeah. Should we do more? Please do 0:34:56.600 --> 0:34:59.120 a couple more? Um. This was a good one from 0:34:59.239 --> 0:35:03.600 Sam every you know, so many, so many questions about 0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:07.600 cornerback end in wide receivers, right, so sorry, but where 0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:11.440 do you feel the most comfortable finding a starter caliber 0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:15.160 player in the third round? At that at those positions, like, 0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:17.760 of those three, who do you feel the best about 0:35:17.840 --> 0:35:19.960 somebody being there in the third and then the least 0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:24.600 And that's a mouthful, I'm sorry, corner or defensive or 0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:27.400 corner or corner end, receiver, corner or receiver. If you're 0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:29.319 trying to draft the guy who's going to start, where, 0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:31.040 who do you feel the best about finding in the 0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:34.920 third round? Probably receiver. Um, you know, I think the 0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:37.759 good corners are going to be off the board by then, 0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:40.080 you know, I think because we're talking about a non 0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:43.239 top seventy five pick, right, yeah, yeah, late, Picky, I 0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:47.280 think all the you know, corners, corners a premium position, 0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:50.359 I think, more so than receiver. And I think for 0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:52.280 that reason, a lot of the corners will be gone, 0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:55.160 I think, just in level of importance to your roster. 0:35:55.360 --> 0:35:59.000 Wide receivers the third out of those three positions, yeah, absolutely, 0:35:59.000 --> 0:36:00.840 And so I think because of that reason, because of 0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:03.560 the depth of this class, I think that wide receiver 0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:07.240 i'd feel most comfortable that there'd be a decent player 0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:10.320 at that point. There's a log jam in this draft 0:36:10.480 --> 0:36:15.000 in rounds two through four with receivers. There's no doubt about. 0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:19.279 I have no idea how possibly. I mean, they're gonna 0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:21.840 be stacked on, stacked on, stacked receivers. It isn't be 0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:24.839 hard to differentiate, how you know, different flavors, they bring 0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:27.879 different things to the field. But to me, I would 0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:30.040 say receiver. I feel pretty confident I can still get 0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:33.880 a you know, Terence Williams, he was taking third round, right, 0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:37.360 you know, a player of that caliber could step in 0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:39.800 as a number two. Uh, you know, give me starting 0:36:39.840 --> 0:36:43.319 reps as a rookie and maybe grow into being more 0:36:43.360 --> 0:36:45.719 than you know, just a just a starter, you know, 0:36:45.840 --> 0:36:49.080 begin an impact type of player. Yeah, I don't disagree. 0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:52.560 I think I think the guy that has the shot. 0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:55.839 I mean, to me, I love I love the cornerbacks 0:36:55.840 --> 0:36:58.879 in this draft, I really do. And I yeah, put 0:36:58.920 --> 0:37:00.719 in the third round. You think they'll be there in 0:37:00.719 --> 0:37:02.600 the third round. No, I think a better player will 0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:04.640 be I think a better player will be a wide receiver. 0:37:04.880 --> 0:37:07.640 If you can get an Amara Darbo in the third round. 0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:09.799 The third round, yeah, that's a great thing. Yeah, there's 0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:12.279 there's no question about that. I mean there there you 0:37:12.600 --> 0:37:15.200 go down through. I love the death, like I said 0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:18.920 at corner, but I Darbo is a great example about that. 0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:21.239 Zay Jones could be Jones. Where do you have the 0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:27.800 Taylor the Yeah? I mean there there's another guy right there. Literally, 0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:29.759 I mean, how about our kid from West Virginia that 0:37:29.800 --> 0:37:32.200 we were talking about Gibson and we could talk about 0:37:32.320 --> 0:37:35.480 fifteen sixteen receivers. I think I'd said this earlier this week. 0:37:35.680 --> 0:37:37.880 Is I mean every I think everybody agrees Davis and 0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:40.920 Williams are a cut above, and then everybody's got a 0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:43.239 different opinion about the next twelve. We need to know 0:37:43.320 --> 0:37:45.719 about Ross to Ross is you know what I mean, 0:37:45.960 --> 0:37:48.920 there's he's he could be up in the conversation again, 0:37:48.960 --> 0:37:52.960 it's about the medical there right, got one more? Um? Yeah, 0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:55.040 And I guess it's fitting because they were they did 0:37:55.080 --> 0:37:58.640 the interviews today Ernie. And this is vague, but drafting 0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:03.240 drafting a quarterback backup quarterback Dack and and you assume 0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:05.880 that's not going to be a premium pick because the 0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:08.440 Cowboys have a young starting quarterback. But I don't I 0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:10.560 don't know, and we we talked about Chad Kelly before 0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:13.040 we came here. Obviously he's not here. But I don't 0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:15.360 know any of these guys do anything for you. I 0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:17.960 mean in the middle of the draft. Yeah, I mean 0:38:18.200 --> 0:38:20.840 not the true Bisky's in the Watsons of the world, 0:38:20.880 --> 0:38:23.960 but somebody. I think you have to watch for the 0:38:24.040 --> 0:38:26.239 next Dak. And when I say that, I don't mean 0:38:26.960 --> 0:38:29.480 that type of player who's gonna come in and somebody somebody. 0:38:29.480 --> 0:38:33.319 Everybody missed a player that's gonna maybe fall a little bit, right, 0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:35.160 I mean Dak fell to at the end of the 0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:37.960 fourth Yeah, so we try to give me one on one, right, 0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:40.839 almost a fifth round pick, right. So I think if 0:38:40.840 --> 0:38:43.120 there's a quarterback in this draft that falls a little bit, 0:38:43.239 --> 0:38:45.440 then that could be your guy. But a guy like 0:38:45.520 --> 0:38:47.440 Nathan Peterman, a guy like Davis Webb. I think these 0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:49.440 guys are gonna pushed up in the top one hundred 0:38:49.719 --> 0:38:53.520 and that's not where you want to draft. Um. Jared 0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:57.080 Evans from Virginia Tech. I think possibly he could be 0:38:57.160 --> 0:38:59.879 that guy. He has a little bit of promise, But again, 0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:03.000 it's all about value. If one of these quarterbacks were 0:39:03.040 --> 0:39:05.000 to fall a little bit and you get that value pick, 0:39:05.280 --> 0:39:07.040 then I think it makes sense. But if you have 0:39:07.080 --> 0:39:09.319 to reach for one of these quarterbacks, no things. Yea. 0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:12.520 Luckily the Cowboys shouldn't have to do that. But honestly, 0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:15.160 and if a guy fell to the right spot four 0:39:15.440 --> 0:39:17.160 fourth round, maybe I don't know. I don't have a 0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:20.080 problem with rounds. Mahome's gonna end up. I was about, no, Okay, 0:39:20.120 --> 0:39:23.160 he's going first round. He has to. I wouldn't say 0:39:23.160 --> 0:39:26.720 it has toy, but I think there's a more likely 0:39:26.800 --> 0:39:28.480 chance he goes first round the second round. Right. Let 0:39:28.520 --> 0:39:33.560 me say this, it is it buzz combined buzz right now. 0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:36.480 And then when we get to where they start stacking 0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:41.319 these boards that people go, we're we're too scared. We're 0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:44.279 too scared to do this. I believe cowards. We don't 0:39:44.280 --> 0:39:46.680 want to put the tag up there. I believe it's 0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:49.160 I believe it's I believe the buzz because it was 0:39:49.200 --> 0:39:51.400 happening before we got here. It's not like it just fell. Oh, 0:39:51.480 --> 0:39:54.239 he had him in the top fifty. I respect him 0:39:54.239 --> 0:39:57.520 for what he did because he's absolutely right. The thing 0:39:57.560 --> 0:40:00.439 I wonder is is the other NFL team it's gonna 0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:02.960 get scared. Look at look at you have. Brian has 0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:05.080 the quarterbacks in front of him, Like, read down that 0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:07.680 list and tell me, like, how who you feel great about? 0:40:08.239 --> 0:40:10.880 Oh you don't? I mean and that a guyser? You 0:40:10.920 --> 0:40:13.719 get the Notre Dame. And this isn't This conversation is 0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:17.360 not just about Mahomes. It's the top four quarterbacks. Okay, 0:40:17.480 --> 0:40:20.160 So what you're saying is you they're gonna drive Mome. Okay, 0:40:20.320 --> 0:40:24.120 if if we go back to the tackle conversu quarterback 0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:26.400 in this thing, if a few, if a few tackles 0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:28.160 that shouldn't be there are going in the first because 0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:30.040 of demand, then Pat Mahomes should be going on the 0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:32.840 first round. Yeah, we have no clue how these quarterbacks 0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:34.560 are gonna come off the board. How many go top ten, 0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:36.759 how many go top twenty, and then how many end 0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:38.279 up in the first round. Could all four go in 0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:41.120 the first round? I think absolutely could. It's crazy. I've 0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:43.560 you've said this before. It minds me the two fourteen draft, 0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:45.799 we just have no clue who's going to be the 0:40:45.800 --> 0:40:48.520 first quarterback drafted. And this isn't true just now at 0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:51.279 the combine, when we're so many days out the day 0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:53.000 before the draft, I think I don't think we'll have 0:40:53.040 --> 0:40:55.120 any idea the order to come off the board, how 0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:57.440 many top ten, how many the first round. But I 0:40:57.520 --> 0:41:01.040 think you're you're laying the groundwork is that we should 0:41:01.040 --> 0:41:04.640 not be shocked when these quarterbacks are taken. We shouldn't 0:41:04.640 --> 0:41:07.880 be shocked, No, because nobody really, even the teams might know. 0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:11.120 How many people saw, you know, Bordles going number three 0:41:11.160 --> 0:41:14.279 to Jackson Villatious and fourteen, I mean they, yeah, I 0:41:14.320 --> 0:41:16.600 mean they. We could have another situation like that this 0:41:16.640 --> 0:41:18.279 year where there's a team in the top you know, 0:41:18.400 --> 0:41:21.360 Jets at six, who knows, you know the guy, the 0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:25.520 Browns at twelve, Arizona at thirteen, there's several teams that 0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:28.239 you know, Buffalo with Tyrod Taylor at number ten, you 0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:30.200 just never know. And then in the back half a 0:41:30.280 --> 0:41:32.400 round one, but Kansas City, I think to me, that 0:41:32.640 --> 0:41:34.800 makes a lot of sense if if a Pat Mahomes 0:41:34.800 --> 0:41:36.880 and Deshaun Watson, one of those guys fall to Casey 0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:38.840 at the end of round one, that would be a 0:41:38.840 --> 0:41:40.680 great pick for them. You have your future starter behind 0:41:40.719 --> 0:41:43.239 Alex Smith. See that's when I had that argument where 0:41:43.239 --> 0:41:44.600 I said something about I think we were in a 0:41:44.640 --> 0:41:47.200 discussion when I said at twenty eight, what if Dallas 0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:50.600 took DeShawn Watson and everybody and we all everybody kind 0:41:50.640 --> 0:41:52.960 of looked at me, like what you see, That's what 0:41:52.960 --> 0:41:55.759 I'm saying. Good teams might figure out Dallas doesn't have 0:41:55.760 --> 0:41:57.840 a backup quarterback. Was actually and I know and I 0:41:57.920 --> 0:42:00.520 and I'm just saying it is the value of that, 0:42:00.760 --> 0:42:02.520 but we don't know the value it would be. It 0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:04.200 would be crazy because of all the stuff. I mean, 0:42:04.239 --> 0:42:06.399 and every team has needs. But I would like, while 0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:09.680 we were talking about this, like Seattle could draft him. 0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:12.400 I love that. I think would be great. Yeah, um, 0:42:12.560 --> 0:42:14.399 as long as it's not your team, right, well, yeah, 0:42:14.400 --> 0:42:19.919 that's as soon as it becomes your team. You're like, whoa, Dan, 0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:24.480 do you feel significantly worse about this crop of guys 0:42:24.520 --> 0:42:26.759 as opposed to the twenty fourteen guys. I just I 0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:30.279 remember feeling like, yeah, I was surprised that Bortles win 0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:33.400 as high as he did, and Manzelle was a wild 0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:35.160 card and nobody really knew what to expect. But I 0:42:35.200 --> 0:42:38.239 just remember feeling more confident in that group that like 0:42:38.280 --> 0:42:43.279 they would become a lot of people liked Car, a 0:42:43.360 --> 0:42:47.000 lot of people like I think overall, it's very similar 0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:50.239 because I I you can look at all these guys 0:42:50.239 --> 0:42:52.040 and poke holes and all every one of them, but 0:42:52.080 --> 0:42:55.839 I think each quarterback has starter potential. So I'm I'm 0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:58.879 kind of lukewarm on this quarterback group the top four, 0:42:59.000 --> 0:43:01.600 just like I was lukewarm them on two fourteen because 0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:04.879 you saw starter traits, but you could also poke holes 0:43:04.880 --> 0:43:07.480 in each one of their games. So and it's funny 0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:10.480 that two fourteen class of that fifth quarterback drafted is 0:43:10.480 --> 0:43:12.960 the ones getting all the buzz right now, Garoppolo, Yeah, 0:43:13.000 --> 0:43:16.000 so you know, it's just well, hey, the best two 0:43:16.120 --> 0:43:18.040 so far through their careers are the ones that fell 0:43:18.080 --> 0:43:21.120 in the second round, and Garlo, you love those second 0:43:21.200 --> 0:43:24.200 round quarterbacks, but they're Andy Dalton is the second round. 0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:25.960 I mean, you know what I'm saying. I mean, yeah, 0:43:26.080 --> 0:43:29.480 Drew Brees exactly right. Okay, thank you so much everybody 0:43:29.480 --> 0:43:31.760 out there for Twitter on the twenty. We appreciate your questions. 0:43:32.160 --> 0:43:34.600 We'll do this one more time tomorrow. Tomorrow we'll be 0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:37.520 our last day here from Indianapolis, so we're gonna take 0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:39.719 our final break. 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This is the Dallas Cowboys 0:45:35.280 --> 0:45:40.400 dot Com Draft Showboys, We're back here at twenty seventeen 0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:45.479 NFL combine last portion of the show for this evening. 0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:47.560 We'll do like I said, we'll have one more show tomorrow. 0:45:47.920 --> 0:45:52.319 I want to thank Caliber Collision and Tommy John for 0:45:52.880 --> 0:45:56.440 their sponsorship and helping us with all things with the 0:45:56.520 --> 0:46:01.800 Dallas Cowboys. Dave, our loyal followers found me a three 0:46:01.840 --> 0:46:05.200 way trade. I can remember things that happened in this world. 0:46:05.239 --> 0:46:07.680 I can remember remember the eighties like I remember the 0:46:07.680 --> 0:46:10.840 eighties like I remember Bob Whitfield. Today with Daniel Jeremiah 0:46:10.960 --> 0:46:15.160 said that the tackle from Florida Sharp was legally blind 0:46:15.200 --> 0:46:17.439 in his right eye. The first thing I thought about 0:46:17.560 --> 0:46:20.359 was Bob Whitfield, a tackle from Stanford that was picked 0:46:20.400 --> 0:46:23.120 by the Atlanta Falcons in nineteen ninety two, my very 0:46:23.120 --> 0:46:26.080 first draft, and he was legally blind in his right eye. 0:46:26.200 --> 0:46:27.560 So that's the first thing I thought about. I can 0:46:27.560 --> 0:46:29.520 remember those things you can remember, but I can't remember 0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:31.840 a three A three way trade. You can tell me 0:46:31.920 --> 0:46:34.320 Packer war stories from the nineties until you're blue in 0:46:34.320 --> 0:46:36.920 the face. I can't do that as well. Yeah, Kelso 0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:39.480 we're nothing if not accountable on the draft. We try 0:46:39.680 --> 0:46:42.960 so we're investigating educator right We're sitting here saying, oh, 0:46:43.080 --> 0:46:48.520 three team trade no NBA. In twenty ten, the Eagles, 0:46:48.920 --> 0:46:52.279 Lions and Broncos did a three team swap. The Broncos 0:46:52.320 --> 0:46:56.560 sent Tony Scheffler to Detroit, who then sent draft picks 0:46:56.600 --> 0:46:59.960 to the Philly and Philly or to Detroit, excuse me, 0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:03.760 and then uh, Detroit sent linebacker Ernie Sims to Philly, 0:47:03.880 --> 0:47:08.240 and everybody knows Ernie Sims eventually became a mediocre linebacker 0:47:08.239 --> 0:47:11.160 for the Dallas Football Cowboys. Right. Uh so, yeah, I 0:47:11.160 --> 0:47:14.200 guess it's possible that that seems a little bit um 0:47:14.440 --> 0:47:15.759 what do I want to say? It seems a little 0:47:15.800 --> 0:47:20.440 bit low caliber compared to a Cousins Romo trade. But hey, 0:47:20.800 --> 0:47:23.960 anything there was, but that happened in two thousand and ten, 0:47:24.080 --> 0:47:27.160 So okay, there, anything's possible, Anything is possible. But I 0:47:27.200 --> 0:47:29.240 don't know. If I don't know, he asked the boss 0:47:29.280 --> 0:47:31.400 tomorrow if he's gonna pull a three team Jerry, are 0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:33.960 you gonna do a three team trade with Niners and Fins? 0:47:34.520 --> 0:47:36.040 You know, I hear a lot of guys sent around 0:47:36.040 --> 0:47:38.320 the media center, by the way, a lot of stand 0:47:38.400 --> 0:47:41.399 ups talking about Tony Romo. Of course, you know, the guy, 0:47:41.440 --> 0:47:43.080 the guy from Denver, the Gentleman Center there with the 0:47:43.120 --> 0:47:44.760 red tie. He was. He was one of the first 0:47:44.760 --> 0:47:47.080 ones over here this morning. He's my buddy from Denver. 0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:48.520 Who's the man he was? He went on a live 0:47:48.560 --> 0:47:50.360 he went on live TV this morning Denver talking and 0:47:50.440 --> 0:47:52.080 the first thing he brought up with Tony Romeo, there 0:47:52.160 --> 0:47:54.319 is not a more intriguing player in the NFL right 0:47:54.360 --> 0:47:59.239 now than Tony Romo because yeah, commanding the headlunch, Yeah 0:47:59.280 --> 0:48:02.000 I would. I mean, I'm biased because I cover the Cowboys, 0:48:02.040 --> 0:48:05.040 but you're talking about a multiple, multiple hundred games starter 0:48:05.120 --> 0:48:07.440 with flour pro bols. Jimmy Garoppolo has looked great, but 0:48:07.480 --> 0:48:09.160 he's played three games. I mean, right, and you're talking 0:48:09.160 --> 0:48:11.520 about two opposite ends of this one of the better 0:48:11.600 --> 0:48:13.879 quarterbacks in the league over the last decade. Real quick, 0:48:13.920 --> 0:48:16.560 if I can well. I ran into this morning, ran 0:48:16.680 --> 0:48:19.279 to a coach with the Denver Broncos that I happen 0:48:19.360 --> 0:48:23.600 to know, and I asked him about just the commitment 0:48:23.640 --> 0:48:26.839 that the Broncos have to their quarterbacks. He said, you know, 0:48:27.000 --> 0:48:30.400 it's really funny. He is Packiston Lynch is really immature. 0:48:31.040 --> 0:48:32.880 He goes. We've got we've got to figure out how 0:48:32.920 --> 0:48:36.040 to get him to be more mature. He says, But 0:48:36.120 --> 0:48:41.120 the thing that we that that John Away he loves Simeon. 0:48:41.560 --> 0:48:45.399 That's this guy. He loves Simeon more than anybody. So 0:48:45.600 --> 0:48:48.600 that's I mean, that's why the Broncos are having the way, 0:48:48.480 --> 0:48:51.640 the kind of direction. But they they feel like though 0:48:51.880 --> 0:48:54.440 that John Away feels like he's got a guy in Simeon. 0:48:54.920 --> 0:48:57.839 But they've got to work hard to get to get 0:48:57.880 --> 0:49:01.719 Packiston Lynch to care more about football, to be a guy. 0:49:01.719 --> 0:49:03.840 It's not what you want to hear. A guy to 0:49:03.920 --> 0:49:06.719 come in and be like what Dak Prescott has been. 0:49:07.200 --> 0:49:10.720 Come in, first guy in, last guy out, grind the tape, 0:49:10.760 --> 0:49:13.520 be a good teammate, be accountable, be all those things. 0:49:13.840 --> 0:49:16.359 They're having that problem right now with Paxton Lynch, which 0:49:16.400 --> 0:49:18.480 is why and you know they might have to look 0:49:18.520 --> 0:49:20.839 at a quarterback. They're gonna say everything they have to say. 0:49:20.880 --> 0:49:23.640 It's good gamesmanship, it's just smart. But like, don't don't 0:49:23.640 --> 0:49:25.719 try to tell me their ears wouldn't perk up if 0:49:25.760 --> 0:49:28.640 Tony Romo became available. No, absolutely, especially with the way 0:49:28.680 --> 0:49:31.759 we just killed all these quarterbacks in this draft. We'll 0:49:31.760 --> 0:49:33.600 get back into this running backs. We talked about four 0:49:33.680 --> 0:49:36.640 Nette talk about the day, you know, and I mentioned, 0:49:36.680 --> 0:49:39.839 you know, Dalvin Cook is another guy we all loved 0:49:39.880 --> 0:49:43.640 Dalvin Cook, but Dane Dave, give me somebody down the line. 0:49:43.719 --> 0:49:47.800 It was there somebody down the line that that caught 0:49:47.920 --> 0:49:52.279 your eye that you're like thinking, okay, the tape and 0:49:52.400 --> 0:49:56.640 the workout match, he's a guy, maybe a second day guy, 0:49:56.840 --> 0:50:01.160 third day guy, that somebody is gonna get it, get 0:50:01.239 --> 0:50:04.440 extreme value for as a player. And and and it 0:50:04.480 --> 0:50:07.359 seems like the big buzz, the big buzz around has 0:50:07.360 --> 0:50:10.799 been about the three down player. You know who's the 0:50:11.360 --> 0:50:13.920 that was? That was the broadcast today. It was Mike 0:50:13.960 --> 0:50:16.680 if you're watching on TV as Mike may I's he's 0:50:16.719 --> 0:50:18.680 this three down guy. He's a three down guy, he said. 0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:20.640 And we've kind of been talking about that on the 0:50:20.719 --> 0:50:23.680 Draft show a bunch, even last year, even two years ago, 0:50:23.760 --> 0:50:26.440 with the te Tevin Coleman's and guys like that. We 0:50:26.440 --> 0:50:28.279 were talking about the three down him. That's what the 0:50:28.360 --> 0:50:31.320 NFL is trying to go to. But is there's somebody 0:50:31.440 --> 0:50:34.560 like that that you saw today in the in the 0:50:34.640 --> 0:50:36.960 in the in the way that the workouts went. And 0:50:37.000 --> 0:50:40.520 I'm not about McCaffrey because he blew this thing. Yeah, 0:50:41.000 --> 0:50:45.400 you go ahead and bring up I think he had 0:50:45.400 --> 0:50:47.800 the best day of anybody that worked out on that field. 0:50:47.880 --> 0:50:52.920 He did overall, lineman, running backs, whatever, whoever worked out today, 0:50:53.160 --> 0:50:56.120 I thought he was the best one. And the three 0:50:56.160 --> 0:50:59.960 cone is just an amazing yever, it's a phenomenal numbers. 0:51:00.120 --> 0:51:01.680 It's one of the best we've seen from him running 0:51:01.719 --> 0:51:04.360 back in quite some time. Um. And this is a 0:51:04.360 --> 0:51:07.640 guy you watched him during the drills, h the receiving drills. 0:51:07.640 --> 0:51:10.200 He's outstanding. And I've said this before, He's going to 0:51:10.360 --> 0:51:13.240 run better routes than probably some receivers that are drafted 0:51:13.280 --> 0:51:15.840 ahead of him. Right. But to me, he just confirmed 0:51:15.880 --> 0:51:17.960 what we already knew. He's a first round player. He 0:51:18.000 --> 0:51:20.520 belongs in the first round. Um, he's one of the 0:51:20.760 --> 0:51:24.000 top twenty five players in this draft. If you can't 0:51:24.040 --> 0:51:26.160 figure out how to use them, you're just you need 0:51:26.200 --> 0:51:29.000 to reevaluate how you're calling plays. He's just that type 0:51:29.000 --> 0:51:31.719 of weapon with the ball in his hands. And you're 0:51:31.760 --> 0:51:33.600 not gonna give him twenty five carries a game. That's 0:51:33.600 --> 0:51:35.319 just not who he is. But give him twenty five 0:51:35.400 --> 0:51:37.839 touches a game. If you're a general manager and you 0:51:37.880 --> 0:51:40.319 pick him, do you walk into your coach, well, you 0:51:40.400 --> 0:51:44.439 probably you're welcome. Yeah, find find something for this guy 0:51:44.480 --> 0:51:47.240 to do. Here's the and he's definitely a first round player, 0:51:47.280 --> 0:51:50.200 one hundred percent obviously. And our Poul said last night 0:51:50.239 --> 0:51:53.680 the Cowboy fans really didn't want him. Well, I mean, 0:51:54.400 --> 0:51:56.439 I still I get I get where they're going. Yeah, 0:51:56.440 --> 0:51:59.279 I don't if anybody think differently, But here, okay, do 0:51:59.320 --> 0:52:02.480 you agree with me on this. Whoever drafts him just 0:52:03.040 --> 0:52:06.719 by virtue of his range on the board and then 0:52:06.800 --> 0:52:09.879 what he does. Whoever drafts him isn't gonna need him, 0:52:10.320 --> 0:52:12.359 you know what I mean. Like, he's not a guy 0:52:12.360 --> 0:52:14.080 that you're drafting to fill an immediate hole. I think 0:52:14.200 --> 0:52:16.480 you're drafting him as a compliment to what you already have. 0:52:16.880 --> 0:52:19.120 And that scares me well because you're not saying a 0:52:19.160 --> 0:52:21.320 really good team is going to pick him, Yeah, basically 0:52:21.360 --> 0:52:23.520 a team that already had. Like, he's not You're not 0:52:23.600 --> 0:52:25.560 drafting him and be your first running back. You're not 0:52:25.680 --> 0:52:28.760 drafting him to be your first, second or third receiver probably, 0:52:28.800 --> 0:52:31.880 but he's gonna be. He's Darren Sproles. You have to 0:52:31.960 --> 0:52:34.439 draft him with a role in mind, exactly, absolutely, and 0:52:34.600 --> 0:52:36.440 I think the team that does that will be a 0:52:36.480 --> 0:52:39.080 team that can afford to pick a player like that. 0:52:39.160 --> 0:52:41.360 But what okay, what about a team like the Giants 0:52:41.520 --> 0:52:45.719 who don't have that clear cut top backs? Do the 0:52:45.760 --> 0:52:49.440 Eagles really have they? But they I mean they well 0:52:49.480 --> 0:52:55.560 they rot. Darren Sprowls made, Yeah, the obvious place New 0:52:55.560 --> 0:52:57.160 England gets brought up. I didn't want to say that 0:52:57.200 --> 0:52:59.919 because it's so obvious, but right, that is the obvious place. 0:53:00.040 --> 0:53:01.719 And they've shown they've known how to know how to 0:53:01.800 --> 0:53:04.520 use that type of talent um. But I do think 0:53:04.520 --> 0:53:07.239 a team like the Giants, a team like the Packers, 0:53:07.680 --> 0:53:09.920 you know, I mean, you can still use time Montgomery. 0:53:10.040 --> 0:53:14.439 It isn't Montgomery that guy that they already have? That guy? Better? Hey, 0:53:14.680 --> 0:53:17.359 have two of them? What's wrong? You know? I know 0:53:17.560 --> 0:53:20.879 Ron Wolfe always said even at the Packers, and it was, hey, 0:53:20.880 --> 0:53:23.080 if you feel good at a position, keep drafting him, 0:53:23.480 --> 0:53:25.920 keep drafting him. And you know, this kind of contradicts 0:53:25.960 --> 0:53:28.719 what I've said about you know, the Cowboys not drafting him. 0:53:28.840 --> 0:53:31.359 But if you can't figure out how to use him 0:53:31.400 --> 0:53:34.120 on your offense, I'm hey, I don't think I still 0:53:34.120 --> 0:53:36.000 don't think it would be a great idea. But having 0:53:36.000 --> 0:53:38.160 seen that and having no knowing what I know, I 0:53:38.960 --> 0:53:40.640 it would not take me long to be on board 0:53:40.680 --> 0:53:43.759 with that pick. I think you can talk yourself into that. 0:53:43.760 --> 0:53:45.279 I kind of look at some other ones back to 0:53:45.280 --> 0:53:48.400 your original. Yeah, you know. Second third, I thought t J. 0:53:48.600 --> 0:53:51.440 Logan helped himself. North Carolina running back. Yeah, this is 0:53:51.480 --> 0:53:53.920 a player who I I thought it's better. Elijah Hood, 0:53:53.920 --> 0:53:55.640 the running back from North Carolina, gets most of the 0:53:55.680 --> 0:53:58.520 pub I think TJ. Logan's better. Uh, more of a 0:53:59.040 --> 0:54:01.520 talking about complimentary back. That's t J. Logan. He's under 0:54:01.560 --> 0:54:04.839 two hundred pounds, but he's fast. Uh you know, give him. 0:54:04.920 --> 0:54:07.160 How well did he catch the ball at North Carolina? 0:54:07.400 --> 0:54:09.880 Pretty well? That's because it looked like in the drills 0:54:09.880 --> 0:54:11.719 there were a couple of times he struggled with that 0:54:11.960 --> 0:54:14.279 and he might have. Um, I didn't see him catch 0:54:14.320 --> 0:54:16.840 the ball today, But you know he's he's kind of 0:54:16.840 --> 0:54:19.480 that scat back. Ye use him out of the backfield, 0:54:19.840 --> 0:54:22.880 you know, get him uh, you know, moving on stretches, 0:54:23.040 --> 0:54:24.800 you know, let him one cut, get him up field. 0:54:25.640 --> 0:54:29.600 He can five he dances, but he's decisive. You know, 0:54:29.719 --> 0:54:32.359 he kind of walks that fine line uh to make 0:54:32.400 --> 0:54:35.320 guys miss. So I think t J. Logan, uh, somewhere 0:54:35.320 --> 0:54:37.520 in the middle rounds would make a lot of sense. 0:54:37.520 --> 0:54:40.560 How about Kareem Hunt. Love him, He's a top senior 0:54:40.560 --> 0:54:44.439 back this year. That yeah, see I the speed said 0:54:44.440 --> 0:54:48.000 four six two that's fine' that's I think that shows 0:54:48.320 --> 0:54:50.359 you can catch the player a lot. Oh yeah, you're 0:54:50.360 --> 0:54:52.960 not draft him because of his speed. That's people get 0:54:53.000 --> 0:54:55.560 so wrapped up in the forty And it really doesn't 0:54:55.600 --> 0:54:58.719 matter to me for for running backs especially, Yeah, you know, 0:54:58.920 --> 0:55:01.520 it's it's something where how many times is a running 0:55:01.520 --> 0:55:04.080 back truly running forty yards in a straight line? If 0:55:04.160 --> 0:55:05.759 I was spending I might I would care more if 0:55:05.800 --> 0:55:07.239 I was spending a first round pick. But you're talking 0:55:07.239 --> 0:55:09.520 about a mid round pick. Yeah, I'm talking to a guy, right. 0:55:09.600 --> 0:55:12.279 How about a guy like Boom Williams from Kentucky. I'm 0:55:12.320 --> 0:55:14.200 not a fan. I didn't like his tape. I think 0:55:14.200 --> 0:55:18.680 he's underpowered. Um he's five seven one ninety. Yeah, I 0:55:18.680 --> 0:55:22.640 don't but the speedo you wouldn't even go back on him. 0:55:22.640 --> 0:55:24.560 But you saw the tape. You don't like I started 0:55:24.600 --> 0:55:26.319 the tape. I didn't like the tape. To me, he's 0:55:26.400 --> 0:55:29.680 a you know, a late maybe seventh round guy, maybe 0:55:29.760 --> 0:55:32.759 a p FA. I think for me, he'll probably end 0:55:32.800 --> 0:55:35.320 up as a priority free agent, but I wouldn't be 0:55:35.320 --> 0:55:36.799 surprised of a team thought he'd be worth a six 0:55:36.880 --> 0:55:38.799 or seventh rounder. Let me ask you, this brad guy 0:55:38.880 --> 0:55:41.200 you're talking to me, we're talking about the three down backs, 0:55:41.320 --> 0:55:45.719 but I'm thinking, um, what about what about specialists? And 0:55:45.760 --> 0:55:48.480 I know you talked to don Ald Pumphrey yesterday? Yeah, 0:55:48.560 --> 0:55:51.600 what about guys like that? Again? Thinking about the Cowboys? 0:55:51.680 --> 0:55:54.279 Where's where's my lance dunbar? Can I get a guy 0:55:54.320 --> 0:55:56.759 like that? Pumphrey was a guy today. I thought he 0:55:56.800 --> 0:55:59.080 had a my lance dunbar, But maybe my lucky white 0:55:59.120 --> 0:56:02.279 head I can kill. Made a great point yesterday about 0:56:02.400 --> 0:56:06.560 quarterbacks throwing too receivers or throwing to backs or whatever. 0:56:07.200 --> 0:56:11.440 The bullpen quarterbacks at this camp did these running backs 0:56:11.480 --> 0:56:14.680 no favor when they started running. Pumphrey did not get 0:56:14.760 --> 0:56:18.120 featured in anything today. The ball was either too short, 0:56:18.440 --> 0:56:23.080 too far, too wide, to this to that. He is 0:56:23.080 --> 0:56:26.960 flying home right now mad because of what happened to 0:56:27.040 --> 0:56:29.640 him today. He did not get to talk about the 0:56:29.680 --> 0:56:32.200 thing or excuse me, He did not get to show 0:56:32.800 --> 0:56:35.439 the things that he's really really good at, and that's 0:56:35.440 --> 0:56:38.240 like you know, catching the football. Those kinds of things. 0:56:38.560 --> 0:56:41.840 You know, that to me was disappointing because I wanted 0:56:41.880 --> 0:56:44.359 to see I wanted to see that. I wanted to 0:56:44.400 --> 0:56:47.360 see that role of Okay, swing it to him, wheel 0:56:47.400 --> 0:56:49.600 it to him, throw it to the screen, throw the 0:56:49.640 --> 0:56:52.200 flat through, all that stuff to him. He didn't get 0:56:52.239 --> 0:56:54.360 one ball thrown well to him today. Hey, I know 0:56:54.440 --> 0:56:56.200 we're in our final minutes. I want to touch on 0:56:56.239 --> 0:56:58.880 a few things we saw today from the receivers and 0:56:58.880 --> 0:57:02.120 the quarterbacks that came through here. Yeah. Uh, Mike Williams 0:57:02.440 --> 0:57:04.640 deciding not to run. You know, it's one of those 0:57:04.640 --> 0:57:06.600 guys who we kind of you know, if he ran 0:57:06.840 --> 0:57:10.200 a good time, could he cement himself over Corey Davis's 0:57:10.239 --> 0:57:13.160 top guy, you think, oh yeah, because he said he 0:57:13.239 --> 0:57:14.840 kind of danced around it. But he said, you know, 0:57:14.880 --> 0:57:17.080 I only have to run a forty yard dash once 0:57:17.080 --> 0:57:19.040 in my life. I'm gonna you know, he kind of said, 0:57:19.320 --> 0:57:20.919 I'm gonna make sure it's the best I can run. 0:57:20.960 --> 0:57:22.960 And I don't fault him for that. He'll run out 0:57:22.960 --> 0:57:26.040 of the Pro Day. But if he doesn't do well there, 0:57:26.040 --> 0:57:27.840 he doesn't have another time to make it up. Don't 0:57:28.080 --> 0:57:30.520 don't you just I don't I don't fault him for 0:57:30.560 --> 0:57:33.680 it either, but just just do it. Just just compete. Yeah, 0:57:33.720 --> 0:57:36.000 because he mentioned Jerry Rays didn't have a good one. 0:57:36.000 --> 0:57:40.320 He mentioned Antonio Brown out right now. He was laying 0:57:40.440 --> 0:57:43.920 laying the groundwork for disappointing. It's going to be right, 0:57:43.960 --> 0:57:46.480 and that's what you worry about. So, uh, is he 0:57:46.560 --> 0:57:49.160 a four six athlete? Is that just what he is? Um? 0:57:49.560 --> 0:57:51.520 What else? Today? David and JOKEU. I thought he was 0:57:51.560 --> 0:57:54.720 really impressive up there for a twenty year old player, Jake, 0:57:54.800 --> 0:57:58.440 but two was another guy in Joku. He uh, he 0:57:58.480 --> 0:58:01.520 wants to break the broad jump record and so Byron Jones, Wow, 0:58:01.600 --> 0:58:03.720 you're on, You're on notice? Are you kidding me? I 0:58:03.760 --> 0:58:05.760 wasn't there for that part. Yea, the tight end is 0:58:05.760 --> 0:58:09.120 gonna break Byron's record and at two hundred forty six pounds, okay, 0:58:09.320 --> 0:58:11.080 at two hundred and twenty pounds in high school he 0:58:11.080 --> 0:58:14.720 was a high school national hurdler or a national jump champion. 0:58:14.800 --> 0:58:18.520 So you know, is he gonna break twelve three? Probably not, 0:58:18.600 --> 0:58:21.040 but the fact that he thinks he can is amazing. Well, 0:58:21.040 --> 0:58:24.080 the record for a player over two hundred forty pounds 0:58:24.200 --> 0:58:26.520 is Jamie Collins, who did it I think he was 0:58:26.520 --> 0:58:29.240 eleven seven, So that's to me, that's the goal for 0:58:29.440 --> 0:58:31.560 and Joko if he can get eleven seven or better, 0:58:31.600 --> 0:58:34.360 which is just an ungodly number. That's a sill, that's 0:58:34.360 --> 0:58:38.880 a full half sandwich away like further Yeah, that's insane. 0:58:39.320 --> 0:58:43.720 So tomorrow we will have on the workouts quarterback, quarterbacks, 0:58:43.720 --> 0:58:46.560 wide receivers, and tight end. I remember day and that 0:58:46.840 --> 0:58:49.240 used to be the tight ends with the last group 0:58:49.280 --> 0:58:51.640 to work out on a Monday. Our guy Shaheen too. Yeah, 0:58:51.680 --> 0:58:56.200 we got see and we'll document that tomorrow night. Get 0:58:56.240 --> 0:58:58.480 ready for that. Shy Okay. Well, that's all the time 0:58:58.520 --> 0:59:01.320 we have out there. Thanks to everybody. Let's say special 0:59:01.360 --> 0:59:06.040 thanks to Lorna Rose who is with us today. She's 0:59:06.040 --> 0:59:08.960 been helping us out here, better known as Mighty to 0:59:09.080 --> 0:59:11.840 you out there in the world. She's been having fun 0:59:11.840 --> 0:59:13.560 with us at the combin. I want to combine and 0:59:13.600 --> 0:59:16.640 see all this. We've enjoyed having her here with us. 0:59:16.840 --> 0:59:20.720 I want to thank Dane Brugler, David Hellman, Keik Garrison, 0:59:20.720 --> 0:59:23.960 executive producer Derek Eagleton, and I also want to thanks 0:59:23.960 --> 0:59:25.960 Taylor Sterning for always putting all our stuff out. And 0:59:26.000 --> 0:59:27.479 I want to Thank you guys out there for joining 0:59:27.520 --> 0:59:29.480 us as well on the Draft Show. We'll be back 0:59:29.520 --> 0:59:31.960 final show from the Combine tomorrow. We'll see you in