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Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys selector Elliott and now your host Dane Brugler, David

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Speaker 1: Hellman and Brian brought us well, well, welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Draft show from the twenty seventeen Indianapolis Combine. Brian brought

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Speaker 1: us some Dallas Cowboys dot Com, Dame Bruglar, CBS Sports,

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Speaker 1: and David Hellman Dallas Cowboys dot Com, along with Kent Garrison,

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Speaker 1: Executive Producer. We're welcome you once again to the combine.

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Speaker 1: Stay three of our shows that we've done here from Indianapolis. Actually, boys,

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Speaker 1: we get some guys working out today. Yeah, excited about

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Speaker 1: that offensive lineman and running backs we're involved. We'll get

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Speaker 1: maybe some of the questions we had. Maybe now we

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Speaker 1: have more questions than we did before when we started

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Speaker 1: this journey. But I want to get into that. I

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Speaker 1: also want to get in an opportunity to talk to you,

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Speaker 1: this combine, Like I said, I also want to do

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Speaker 1: some Twitter on the twenty and Twitter on the twenty

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Speaker 1: with us here on the Draft Show. It's at the

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Speaker 1: Draft Show. You should follow us along on Twitter. Ken Garrison,

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Speaker 1: as always says, does a great job of running the

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Speaker 1: Twitter account, letting you know you're probably watching us right now,

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Speaker 1: But you know, we don't have the ability to take calls.

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Speaker 1: Promise to do that. We get back to the Star.

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Speaker 1: But today we are going to play a little Twitter

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Speaker 1: on twenty and so I need your questions and David

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Speaker 1: Hellman will handle that part of it. And with all

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Speaker 1: that being said, I will get this show started. Uh

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Speaker 1: Dane offensive Lineman today And you know, it appeared to

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Speaker 1: me watching these young men work out that the guys

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Speaker 1: who we've seen as the top guys tend to tended

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Speaker 1: to have the better of the workouts if you look

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Speaker 1: at the way the numbers, you know, and the guys

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Speaker 1: you know, guys like that, Uh, Forced Lamp Dawkins. I thought, yeah,

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Speaker 1: prospects and and we've we've said this though, maybe that

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Speaker 1: offensive line group. You know, Cam Robinson another guy, you know,

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Speaker 1: and I I thought Cam Robinson, you know, I didn't

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Speaker 1: think he was gonna do as well athletically, but today

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Speaker 1: he sure proved me wrong in that way. But it

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Speaker 1: just appeared that the guys that we've seen the best

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Speaker 1: on tape tended to have the best workouts today. And

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Speaker 1: that's what the combine is all about. The combine is

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Speaker 1: a cross checking exercise to make sure that the numbers

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Speaker 1: match up with what you saw on tape. And I

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Speaker 1: think you're right. I think Garrett Bowles, who is a

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Speaker 1: fantastic athlete, you see them on tape, and he showed

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Speaker 1: it here. He finished top five in every single category.

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Speaker 1: Every you know, you don't see Lyman run forty yard

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Speaker 1: dashes on the field, but when you see what he

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Speaker 1: did in the three cone, the vertical, the short shuttle,

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Speaker 1: I think he confirmed what we saw on tape and

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Speaker 1: I think what happened here today at the combine matched

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Speaker 1: wanted to see him bench press. That's really the only

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Speaker 1: for him, twenty eight on the vertical jump, nine to

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Speaker 1: tackle class? No, I do, but the best of them,

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Speaker 1: and he's and yeah, ram Check, and he's what talking

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Speaker 1: where I think Cam Robinson really fall short. Uh you know,

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Speaker 1: solid workout and that's what you want to see. Uh.

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Speaker 1: just think he has balance problems. Yeah, you know, and

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Speaker 1: I have Ramcheck rated higher and okay, okay, the guys

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Speaker 1: that worked today, I'm right, the guys that worked today, Yes, Lamp.

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Speaker 1: Think the strengths matchup a guy that you could potentially

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Speaker 1: just with his skill set, it's just better suited inside

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Speaker 1: Forrest lamp cemented himself as definitely a guy that's going

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Speaker 1: I'm just being this point. I'm looking for a tackle. Though.

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Speaker 1: It just seems like there's better guards in this draft.

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Speaker 1: And if you're a team, and we saw plenty of

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Speaker 1: teams David last year that struggled with offensive line play, yeah,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do one of my favorite segments because it

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Speaker 1: It is known as but on twenty So David Hellman

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Speaker 1: take it away. This is a good timing for a

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Speaker 1: question from her, because I remember last year we mentioned

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Speaker 1: this guy in the same breath as for Nette and

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Speaker 1: Cook all the time, and then he fell off a cliff,

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Speaker 1: and I want to know about him. Samaj p Ryan,

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma running back. Seems like he's making a good impression

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Speaker 1: here at the combine. Turn some heads with his bench press,

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Speaker 1: which you expected, you know, with the Uh he's a

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Speaker 1: built dude. Uh, so you kind of expected that upper

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Speaker 1: body strength. Uh put up what thirty reps? Reps? Yes,

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Speaker 1: so not many running backs go over the thirty mark.

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Speaker 1: Some ejap Ryan was want of them to do that.

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Speaker 1: You know, the forty yard dish not as impressive for

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Speaker 1: six five, but that's not his game. He's not a

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Speaker 1: speedy type of back m but you know, it's not something.

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Speaker 1: So I don't think the four six five should change

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Speaker 1: anyone's opinion of p Ryan. U to me, I see

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Speaker 1: a second day player, a guy that should be considered

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Speaker 1: in the top one hundred picks. Uh, the vision, the power,

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Speaker 1: very tough inside runner. H I don't know. I see

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Speaker 1: a player who is I would consider in the in

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Speaker 1: the third round. What about you? Did you see that player? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I was. I actually went a little bit later than that.

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Speaker 1: I thought he was more of a fourth round type

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Speaker 1: of a player that's actually perfect. Because Herb was wondering

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Speaker 1: if yeah, I just feel like though that Dane tried

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Speaker 1: about this guy and you, I think he's more of

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Speaker 1: a powerful runner than he is, like you said the

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Speaker 1: allusion SIVs speedy guy. I think he works really really

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Speaker 1: hard to finish his runs. I mean you will see

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Speaker 1: him try and fight and to get every yard he can.

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Speaker 1: I thought I thought he caught the ball well in

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Speaker 1: the drills today. Though they threw some balls to him,

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Speaker 1: the flat stuff he was able to do. I don't

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Speaker 1: think you want him running a lot of stuff down

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Speaker 1: the field. I think that's more Mixon's game getting down

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Speaker 1: the field. But this guy, if you throw it to

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Speaker 1: him in the flat, he could turn get up the field.

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Speaker 1: His numbers as we were talking about though, you know

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Speaker 1: the four, six, five, like Dane was talking about thirty

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Speaker 1: times with the reps, thirty three with the vertical nine

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Speaker 1: eight with the broad jump right there, so that was

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Speaker 1: kind of his day right there, and you know he's

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Speaker 1: not a lot of people talk about him because of

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Speaker 1: what Mixon was has done. But a solid player, like

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Speaker 1: Dane says, though probably third fourth round consideration Xavier or Zavier. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: I don't know which you wrote about this, Brian. He

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Speaker 1: wants to know how much buzz TCU tackle Aviante Collins generated. Well,

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Speaker 1: you can on every year going to the combine and

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Speaker 1: you have two or three players that you haven't seen

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Speaker 1: that you need to see, and then somebody works out

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Speaker 1: really really well at the combine and you and then

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, now you're like, okay, you know,

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Speaker 1: Dane and I were actually talking to each other while

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Speaker 1: collins workout was going on. It's six four two ninety

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Speaker 1: five pounds official time of a four eight one thirty

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Speaker 1: four on the vertical. Got nicked up while the drills

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Speaker 1: were going on, so he didn't get to do the

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Speaker 1: vertical and all the other stuff that you saw there,

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Speaker 1: So a little bit disappointing. If he had done that,

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Speaker 1: maybe would have had the best combined workout of all

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Speaker 1: the guys. I have not seen the player myself. You

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Speaker 1: were kind of talking about you'd watched some t sue tape,

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Speaker 1: but you did nothing really caught your eye with Collins,

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Speaker 1: if I'm right. No, But what some these results do

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Speaker 1: is it's gonna make it makes us. Now go watch

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Speaker 1: the ten and not only us, but thirty two teen. Right,

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Speaker 1: you know they're gonna go back and say, Okay, you know,

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Speaker 1: we knew he was athletic, but right, you know, is

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Speaker 1: he this athletic one happens every year? Back and watch

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Speaker 1: the tape and say, okay, there's something here. He's an athlete.

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Speaker 1: How will that translate? Maybe we can mold him into

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Speaker 1: you know, build his body, fix the technique issues, get

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Speaker 1: more consistency out of him. But you can't teach athleticism

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Speaker 1: either you have it or you don't, especially for a

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Speaker 1: big man. And so teams are gonna go back, study

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Speaker 1: a little bit more, find out what they have. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you had not seen the player before, had you.

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Speaker 1: I've one of his games and I didn't see enough

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Speaker 1: to make me get excited about doing another. You know,

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Speaker 1: I that's something it happens here. Yeah, it's not like yest,

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Speaker 1: Yeah it next. Yeah, it's not like you. It's you know,

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Speaker 1: you do just because he has these these numbers doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean he's a good player, right, You mean he know

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Speaker 1: he could flop in the tape, there's no doubt. But

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Speaker 1: what it does is it causes us to go back

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Speaker 1: and make sure that you know we're not missing something

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Speaker 1: because he's in press. I don't even know what we

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Speaker 1: can say about this, but it seems worth addressing because

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Speaker 1: our favorite guy, Ian Rappapors out on the Twitter sphere

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Speaker 1: talking about three see him in the hallway a lot

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Speaker 1: NFL trade. Let's play fantasy football. Mat Matthew wants to

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Speaker 1: know about a three way trade. He says, no way,

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Speaker 1: right L O L. I don't so ras the last

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Speaker 1: time an NFL pulled I know, and I've been doing

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Speaker 1: this since night. I can't remember three way if you're

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Speaker 1: not privy. Rappaport is talking about, uh, Washington sending Kirk

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Speaker 1: Cousins to San Francisco and then Dallas sending Romo to

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Speaker 1: Washington and a bunch of picks being involved. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It was a very cryptic tweet. It sounds ridiculous, but

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Speaker 1: I also thought to be to be totally fair, and

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Speaker 1: it's a completely different situation because he was a free agent.

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Speaker 1: But I thought it was absolutely ridiculous to think that

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Speaker 1: DeMarco Murray would wind up in Philly too. I said that,

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Speaker 1: I said that on the record, and that's what happened.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, anything's possible, but that just sounds

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Speaker 1: ludicrous to me, it does. I mean, well, and we'll

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Speaker 1: have the opportunity to visit with Jerry Jones tomorrow. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so they'll be a good opportunity for eyes to the end,

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Speaker 1: Dave Hellman will break the story that there's a three

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Speaker 1: way trade. We're in the works. Jerry's gonna sit down

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Speaker 1: to me, like, so we're sending Romo. Washington's gonna hand

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Speaker 1: David Miller lite and then the next thing you know,

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Speaker 1: Dave is gonna break the story there's a three way trade.

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Speaker 1: Sounds great, Sanci If I got to break that trade,

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Speaker 1: are you kidding me? I'd buy I'd buy you all

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Speaker 1: dinner at Saint Elmo tomorrow. How about that day? Three

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Speaker 1: times for you in one week? Can't owe me on that?

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Speaker 1: If only? But it's not gonna happen. I don't say

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Speaker 1: it's not happening. I just don't see it happening either.

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Speaker 1: I really really don't not the Dave breaking the story part.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, that's not gonna that's not gonna happen either,

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Speaker 1: But thank you. Um, this is way more up y'all's Alley,

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Speaker 1: Carlos and Carlos, I'm gonna call you out because I

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Speaker 1: know for a fact that Dane mocked Carl Lawson to

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Speaker 1: Dallas at some point at least, but he says, uh,

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Speaker 1: Carl Lawson is not being mocked in any first round projections.

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Speaker 1: Is he worth? Is he worth it at twenty eight?

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Speaker 1: Why isn't he getting more buzz? Which I do agree

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Speaker 1: with that part. I feel like he's kind of the

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Speaker 1: forgotten guy when you talk about late round pass rushers.

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Speaker 1: When you hear about Tack, you hear about Harris, you

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Speaker 1: don't hear Lawson's name is often. I think it belongs there. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, these pass rushers are gonna go quick, uh

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna see that on draft day, and so

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Speaker 1: Losson he's gonna be, you know, the consolation prize for

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Speaker 1: the team that does not get uh those edge rushers

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Speaker 1: you just mentioned. So there's a lot to like with Losson.

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Speaker 1: I talk about how his lower body, his lower body quickness,

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Speaker 1: his upper body power, he uses both of those in Unison.

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Speaker 1: Now he's not the biggest guy, uh, you know, only

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Speaker 1: about six one, but he uses that leverage to his

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Speaker 1: advantage to ben get underneath. Uh you know, I've used that.

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Speaker 1: I've talked about this before, but Larrymy Tunsel mentioned that

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Speaker 1: Lawson was the toughest pass rusher he ever faced. And

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Speaker 1: Larrymy Tunsel's the best tackle we've seen come out of

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Speaker 1: the draft in the last few years. So there's a

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Speaker 1: lot to like there. Um, I don't think you know.

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Speaker 1: To me, the easy comparisons Brandon Graham with the Eagles, Uh,

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Speaker 1: just skill set wise comparison, it makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 1: Cowboy killer. Yeah, and for those reasons, I believe he

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Speaker 1: is worth a first round pick, and at twenty eight,

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Speaker 1: with maybe all other options wiped out, it's not a

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Speaker 1: bad way to go. Yeah, and you like Davison. You

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Speaker 1: mocked him to Dallas at one point, so yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I totally agree with Dane here. And I'm agreeing with

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Speaker 1: you way too much. It's probably making some bad show,

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Speaker 1: but I'll agree with you here. I mean, I'm just

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Speaker 1: looking at my notes. I saw a guy that can

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Speaker 1: hold the point of attack. I saw a guy that

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Speaker 1: was strong handed, I saw a guy that could get

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Speaker 1: the corner. I saw a guy that can quickly disengage.

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Speaker 1: I saw a guy that could kick inside if you

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Speaker 1: needed to in the Nickels situation, and play him as

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Speaker 1: a tackle if you want to rush. He's got the

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Speaker 1: power to get the blockers off balance. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: to like about Carl Lawson here, and I think the

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Speaker 1: Brandon Graham comparison is absolutely right spot on with him

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Speaker 1: in this situation. Sam's got a good one, he says. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, not Sam. Chris says, who do you think

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Speaker 1: is better taco or McKinley? And why two different flavors

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Speaker 1: of ice cream there? Yep? I mean you have one

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Speaker 1: tacos more of that left end a sending pass rusher

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Speaker 1: where I think Tack obviously the better athlete. Not as

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Speaker 1: big only you know, about six two and a half

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Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty pounds, but he's a speedster. I

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Speaker 1: can't wait to see him work out. He's on Sunday, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: defensive linement on Sunday. So eager to see what he

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Speaker 1: does in the forty what he does in the change

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Speaker 1: of direction drills. I think he's gonna blow it up

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Speaker 1: where a taco. I don't expect him to do as well.

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Speaker 1: I think he'll be average. I think he'll come in,

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Speaker 1: you know, right around where he needs to be. But

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Speaker 1: you know, it depends what kind of rusher do you

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Speaker 1: want who makes the bigger impact for me? I take

636
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: the guy with the better athleticism. But with that said,

637
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: he also has some injury stuff, so all those things

638
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: factored in. You know, I wouldn't be surprised if Tacos

639
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: drafted first or tax drafted first. Two pretty good names

640
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: there by the way, yep. But I lean McKinley. And

641
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: that's if if you're gonna just boil it down to

642
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: those two, i'd lean McKinley. Yeah. McKinley measured in at

643
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: six two, two hundred and fifty pounds, thirty four and

644
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: three quarters arms nine and three quarters hands, great length,

645
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: arm length, yeah, and then six two yeah, and Taco

646
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: came in. And this is where Dane's trying to explain

647
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: to you what it is. Taco comes in at six

648
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: five really about six six h five five, so almost

649
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: sixty six, two hundred and seventy seven pounds, So it's

650
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: a different mean you're talking with twenty seven pounds difference

651
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: right there. But the thing about McKinley, I think that

652
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: McKinley does a better job of getting the corner. I

653
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: really do. I mean, you know, with with with Taco,

654
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: you see him play disengage or you see him be

655
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: engaged and not quickly get rid of somebody to get

656
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: to the quarterback. I His play, in my opinion, is

657
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: more of a guy that plays. Is that left in

658
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: where McKinley, to me could be the right end. Put

659
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: the hand on the ground, play him a little wider

660
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: and let him go to the football. And I've said

661
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: this before, but when I watched Taco at Michigan, it

662
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: reminds me and when I watched Justin tuck Gett, Notre

663
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: Dame said a bunch, And I think that's a good player.

664
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 1: So there's promise there. There's playing a promise. But in

665
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: terms of the speedster that's gonna capture the edge, wrapped

666
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: the tackle, uh, that's definitely McKinley. I think we both

667
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: agree we'd rather have him. Absolutely, I'm I and y'all

668
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: are the draft experts. But I've already said this, like

669
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: I can't I can't get into the right end left

670
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: in just I just want a good football player, like

671
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm no, You're it's fair, but I'm just

672
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: I'm drawn toward Taco Charlton because I've seen him and

673
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: I just like he's a damn good football very steady,

674
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: just doesn't make a lot of wild plays. His name

675
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: is Fred. Would you still like him? Yes? I would, Yes,

676
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: I would, But I wouldn't like Charlton. I wouldn't like

677
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: him as much if his name was Fred. I just

678
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: like I said, I just I think that he makes

679
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: He's a steady player that I'm looking for the way

680
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: you are making my point for me, and it's like

681
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: at twenty eight, I'm just basically assuming I'm I'm not

682
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: gonna get a wild player. You can get a wild

683
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: player in the stream. Give me the high floor guy.

684
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: Give me the guy with the high floor that even

685
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: if he doesn't have a great seat, like, he's just good.

686
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: You know, Byron Jones? Is that Byron Jones for you?

687
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: I mean that was where that's gotta the same pick

688
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: you got there? If you didn't we think Byron Jones

689
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: had a high ceiling based on his athletic ability. Though yeah,

690
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: I would say, did we twist jer arm On that one.

691
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: I don't think. No, I'm just I don't think. I

692
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: don't remember saying Byron Jones was like, there's nothing spectacular

693
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: about Byron Jones other than the fact he broad jumped

694
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 1: twelve feet. But didn't we think he could grow into

695
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: a back, thought he could play two positions based on

696
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: his athletic I think we thought both. He had a

697
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: high ceiling and a high floor. Yeah, I agree. Yeah,

698
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: if if Chaco Charlton's got a high floor in a

699
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: low ceiling, I'll take that at twenty eight, if I

700
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: can just plug him in and have him be a

701
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: solid player. Don't you feel like the Cowboys have a

702
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: lot of Taco Charlton's on their team right now at

703
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: defensive end. Yeah, but they're not gonna find I got

704
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: a bag of tacos. You're not gonna find von Miller

705
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: at twenty eighth. We got a bag of tacos. You're not.

706
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: You're not gonna find as many tacos as you want.

707
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: You're not. I'm getting hungry. You're not gonna find Miller

708
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: talking about TACCOs. Yeah. Should we do more? Please do

709
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: a couple more? Um. This was a good one from

710
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: Sam every you know, so many, so many questions about

711
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: cornerback end in wide receivers, right, so sorry, but where

712
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: do you feel the most comfortable finding a starter caliber

713
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: player in the third round? At that at those positions, like,

714
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 1: of those three, who do you feel the best about

715
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: somebody being there in the third and then the least

716
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: And that's a mouthful, I'm sorry, corner or defensive or

717
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: corner or corner end, receiver, corner or receiver. If you're

718
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: trying to draft the guy who's going to start, where,

719
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: who do you feel the best about finding in the

720
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: third round? Probably receiver. Um, you know, I think the

721
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: good corners are going to be off the board by then,

722
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: you know, I think because we're talking about a non

723
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: top seventy five pick, right, yeah, yeah, late, Picky, I

724
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 1: think all the you know, corners, corners a premium position,

725
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: I think, more so than receiver. And I think for

726
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 1: that reason, a lot of the corners will be gone,

727
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: I think, just in level of importance to your roster.

728
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: Wide receivers the third out of those three positions, yeah, absolutely,

729
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: And so I think because of that reason, because of

730
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: the depth of this class, I think that wide receiver

731
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 1: i'd feel most comfortable that there'd be a decent player

732
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 1: at that point. There's a log jam in this draft

733
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: in rounds two through four with receivers. There's no doubt about.

734
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: I have no idea how possibly. I mean, they're gonna

735
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: be stacked on, stacked on, stacked receivers. It isn't be

736
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: hard to differentiate, how you know, different flavors, they bring

737
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 1: different things to the field. But to me, I would

738
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: say receiver. I feel pretty confident I can still get

739
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: a you know, Terence Williams, he was taking third round, right,

740
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: you know, a player of that caliber could step in

741
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 1: as a number two. Uh, you know, give me starting

742
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: reps as a rookie and maybe grow into being more

743
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: than you know, just a just a starter, you know,

744
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: begin an impact type of player. Yeah, I don't disagree.

745
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: I think I think the guy that has the shot.

746
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 1: I mean, to me, I love I love the cornerbacks

747
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 1: in this draft, I really do. And I yeah, put

748
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: in the third round. You think they'll be there in

749
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: the third round. No, I think a better player will

750
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: be I think a better player will be a wide receiver.

751
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: If you can get an Amara Darbo in the third round.

752
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: The third round, yeah, that's a great thing. Yeah, there's

753
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: there's no question about that. I mean there there you

754
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: go down through. I love the death, like I said

755
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: at corner, but I Darbo is a great example about that.

756
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: Zay Jones could be Jones. Where do you have the

757
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 1: Taylor the Yeah? I mean there there's another guy right there. Literally,

758
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: I mean, how about our kid from West Virginia that

759
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: we were talking about Gibson and we could talk about

760
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen receivers. I think I'd said this earlier this week.

761
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: Is I mean every I think everybody agrees Davis and

762
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: Williams are a cut above, and then everybody's got a

763
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: different opinion about the next twelve. We need to know

764
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: about Ross to Ross is you know what I mean,

765
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: there's he's he could be up in the conversation again,

766
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: it's about the medical there right, got one more? Um? Yeah,

767
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: And I guess it's fitting because they were they did

768
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: the interviews today Ernie. And this is vague, but drafting

769
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 1: drafting a quarterback backup quarterback Dack and and you assume

770
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: that's not going to be a premium pick because the

771
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: Cowboys have a young starting quarterback. But I don't I

772
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: don't know, and we we talked about Chad Kelly before

773
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: we came here. Obviously he's not here. But I don't

774
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: know any of these guys do anything for you. I

775
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: mean in the middle of the draft. Yeah, I mean

776
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: not the true Bisky's in the Watsons of the world,

777
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: but somebody. I think you have to watch for the

778
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: next Dak. And when I say that, I don't mean

779
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: that type of player who's gonna come in and somebody somebody.

780
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: Everybody missed a player that's gonna maybe fall a little bit, right,

781
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: I mean Dak fell to at the end of the

782
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: fourth Yeah, so we try to give me one on one, right,

783
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 1: almost a fifth round pick, right. So I think if

784
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: there's a quarterback in this draft that falls a little bit,

785
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: then that could be your guy. But a guy like

786
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman, a guy like Davis Webb. I think these

787
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: guys are gonna pushed up in the top one hundred

788
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: and that's not where you want to draft. Um. Jared

789
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: Evans from Virginia Tech. I think possibly he could be

790
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 1: that guy. He has a little bit of promise, But again,

791
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: it's all about value. If one of these quarterbacks were

792
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: to fall a little bit and you get that value pick,

793
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: then I think it makes sense. But if you have

794
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: to reach for one of these quarterbacks, no things. Yea.

795
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: Luckily the Cowboys shouldn't have to do that. But honestly,

796
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: and if a guy fell to the right spot four

797
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: fourth round, maybe I don't know. I don't have a

798
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: problem with rounds. Mahome's gonna end up. I was about, no, Okay,

799
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: he's going first round. He has to. I wouldn't say

800
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,720
Speaker 1: it has toy, but I think there's a more likely

801
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: chance he goes first round the second round. Right. Let

802
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: me say this, it is it buzz combined buzz right now.

803
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: And then when we get to where they start stacking

804
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: these boards that people go, we're we're too scared. We're

805
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: too scared to do this. I believe cowards. We don't

806
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: want to put the tag up there. I believe it's

807
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: I believe it's I believe the buzz because it was

808
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: happening before we got here. It's not like it just fell. Oh,

809
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: he had him in the top fifty. I respect him

810
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: for what he did because he's absolutely right. The thing

811
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,439
Speaker 1: I wonder is is the other NFL team it's gonna

812
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: get scared. Look at look at you have. Brian has

813
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks in front of him, Like, read down that

814
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: list and tell me, like, how who you feel great about?

815
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: Oh you don't? I mean and that a guyser? You

816
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: get the Notre Dame. And this isn't This conversation is

817
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 1: not just about Mahomes. It's the top four quarterbacks. Okay,

818
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: So what you're saying is you they're gonna drive Mome. Okay,

819
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: if if we go back to the tackle conversu quarterback

820
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: in this thing, if a few, if a few tackles

821
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: that shouldn't be there are going in the first because

822
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: of demand, then Pat Mahomes should be going on the

823
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: first round. Yeah, we have no clue how these quarterbacks

824
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: are gonna come off the board. How many go top ten,

825
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: how many go top twenty, and then how many end

826
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: up in the first round. Could all four go in

827
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: the first round? I think absolutely could. It's crazy. I've

828
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: you've said this before. It minds me the two fourteen draft,

829
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: we just have no clue who's going to be the

830
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: first quarterback drafted. And this isn't true just now at

831
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: the combine, when we're so many days out the day

832
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: before the draft, I think I don't think we'll have

833
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: any idea the order to come off the board, how

834
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: many top ten, how many the first round. But I

835
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: think you're you're laying the groundwork is that we should

836
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: not be shocked when these quarterbacks are taken. We shouldn't

837
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: be shocked, No, because nobody really, even the teams might know.

838
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: How many people saw, you know, Bordles going number three

839
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: to Jackson Villatious and fourteen, I mean they, yeah, I

840
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: mean they. We could have another situation like that this

841
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: year where there's a team in the top you know,

842
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 1: Jets at six, who knows, you know the guy, the

843
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: Browns at twelve, Arizona at thirteen, there's several teams that

844
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: you know, Buffalo with Tyrod Taylor at number ten, you

845
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Speaker 1: just never know. And then in the back half a

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Speaker 1: round one, but Kansas City, I think to me, that

847
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense if if a Pat Mahomes

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Speaker 1: and Deshaun Watson, one of those guys fall to Casey

849
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Speaker 1: at the end of round one, that would be a

850
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: great pick for them. You have your future starter behind

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Speaker 1: Alex Smith. See that's when I had that argument where

852
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: I said something about I think we were in a

853
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Speaker 1: discussion when I said at twenty eight, what if Dallas

854
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Speaker 1: took DeShawn Watson and everybody and we all everybody kind

855
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Speaker 1: of looked at me, like what you see, That's what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. Good teams might figure out Dallas doesn't have

857
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Speaker 1: a backup quarterback. Was actually and I know and I

858
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Speaker 1: and I'm just saying it is the value of that,

859
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: but we don't know the value it would be. It

860
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: would be crazy because of all the stuff. I mean,

861
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 1: and every team has needs. But I would like, while

862
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: we were talking about this, like Seattle could draft him.

863
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Speaker 1: I love that. I think would be great. Yeah, um,

864
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Speaker 1: as long as it's not your team, right, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's as soon as it becomes your team. You're like, whoa, Dan,

866
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: do you feel significantly worse about this crop of guys

867
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Speaker 1: as opposed to the twenty fourteen guys. I just I

868
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: remember feeling like, yeah, I was surprised that Bortles win

869
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: as high as he did, and Manzelle was a wild

870
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: card and nobody really knew what to expect. But I

871
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: just remember feeling more confident in that group that like

872
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: they would become a lot of people liked Car, a

873
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: lot of people like I think overall, it's very similar

874
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: because I I you can look at all these guys

875
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: and poke holes and all every one of them, but

876
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 1: I think each quarterback has starter potential. So I'm I'm

877
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 1: kind of lukewarm on this quarterback group the top four,

878
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: just like I was lukewarm them on two fourteen because

879
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 1: you saw starter traits, but you could also poke holes

880
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: in each one of their games. So and it's funny

881
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: that two fourteen class of that fifth quarterback drafted is

882
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: the ones getting all the buzz right now, Garoppolo, Yeah,

883
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Speaker 1: so you know, it's just well, hey, the best two

884
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Speaker 1: in the second round, and Garlo, you love those second

886
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I'm saying. I mean, yeah,

888
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: Drew Brees exactly right. Okay, thank you so much everybody

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Speaker 1: way trade. I can remember things that happened in this world.

938
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Speaker 1: I can remember remember the eighties like I remember the

939
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Speaker 1: eighties like I remember Bob Whitfield. Today with Daniel Jeremiah

940
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Speaker 1: said that the tackle from Florida Sharp was legally blind

941
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Speaker 1: in his right eye. The first thing I thought about

942
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 1: was Bob Whitfield, a tackle from Stanford that was picked

943
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Speaker 1: by the Atlanta Falcons in nineteen ninety two, my very

944
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: first draft, and he was legally blind in his right eye.

945
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Speaker 1: So that's the first thing I thought about. I can

946
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Speaker 1: remember those things you can remember, but I can't remember

947
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Speaker 1: a three A three way trade. You can tell me

948
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Speaker 1: Packer war stories from the nineties until you're blue in

949
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: the face. I can't do that as well. Yeah, Kelso

950
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: we're nothing if not accountable on the draft. We try

951
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: so we're investigating educator right We're sitting here saying, oh,

952
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: three team trade no NBA. In twenty ten, the Eagles,

953
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: Lions and Broncos did a three team swap. The Broncos

954
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: sent Tony Scheffler to Detroit, who then sent draft picks

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Speaker 1: to the Philly and Philly or to Detroit, excuse me,

956
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Speaker 1: and then uh, Detroit sent linebacker Ernie Sims to Philly,

957
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Speaker 1: and everybody knows Ernie Sims eventually became a mediocre linebacker

958
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: for the Dallas Football Cowboys. Right. Uh so, yeah, I

959
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: guess it's possible that that seems a little bit um

960
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: what do I want to say? It seems a little

961
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: bit low caliber compared to a Cousins Romo trade. But hey,

962
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: anything there was, but that happened in two thousand and ten,

963
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: So okay, there, anything's possible, Anything is possible. But I

964
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Speaker 1: don't know. If I don't know, he asked the boss

965
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: tomorrow if he's gonna pull a three team Jerry, are

966
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: you gonna do a three team trade with Niners and Fins?

967
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: You know, I hear a lot of guys sent around

968
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Speaker 1: the media center, by the way, a lot of stand

969
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 1: ups talking about Tony Romo. Of course, you know, the guy,

970
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: the guy from Denver, the Gentleman Center there with the

971
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Speaker 1: red tie. He was. He was one of the first

972
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Speaker 1: ones over here this morning. He's my buddy from Denver.

973
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: Who's the man he was? He went on a live

974
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Speaker 1: he went on live TV this morning Denver talking and

975
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: the first thing he brought up with Tony Romeo, there

976
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: is not a more intriguing player in the NFL right

977
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 1: now than Tony Romo because yeah, commanding the headlunch, Yeah

978
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: I would. I mean, I'm biased because I cover the Cowboys,

979
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: but you're talking about a multiple, multiple hundred games starter

980
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: with flour pro bols. Jimmy Garoppolo has looked great, but

981
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: he's played three games. I mean, right, and you're talking

982
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: about two opposite ends of this one of the better

983
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league over the last decade. Real quick,

984
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Speaker 1: if I can well. I ran into this morning, ran

985
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: to a coach with the Denver Broncos that I happen

986
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: to know, and I asked him about just the commitment

987
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 1: that the Broncos have to their quarterbacks. He said, you know,

988
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: it's really funny. He is Packiston Lynch is really immature.

989
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: He goes. We've got we've got to figure out how

990
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: to get him to be more mature. He says, But

991
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: the thing that we that that John Away he loves Simeon.

992
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 1: That's this guy. He loves Simeon more than anybody. So

993
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's why the Broncos are having the way,

994
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: the kind of direction. But they they feel like though

995
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: that John Away feels like he's got a guy in Simeon.

996
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 1: But they've got to work hard to get to get

997
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: Packiston Lynch to care more about football, to be a guy.

998
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 1: It's not what you want to hear. A guy to

999
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: come in and be like what Dak Prescott has been.

1000
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,720
Speaker 1: Come in, first guy in, last guy out, grind the tape,

1001
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: be a good teammate, be accountable, be all those things.

1002
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 1: They're having that problem right now with Paxton Lynch, which

1003
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: is why and you know they might have to look

1004
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 1: at a quarterback. They're gonna say everything they have to say.

1005
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: It's good gamesmanship, it's just smart. But like, don't don't

1006
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: try to tell me their ears wouldn't perk up if

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Speaker 1: Tony Romo became available. No, absolutely, especially with the way

1008
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Speaker 1: we just killed all these quarterbacks in this draft. We'll

1009
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: get back into this running backs. We talked about four

1010
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: Nette talk about the day, you know, and I mentioned,

1011
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 1: you know, Dalvin Cook is another guy we all loved

1012
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook, but Dane Dave, give me somebody down the line.

1013
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 1: It was there somebody down the line that that caught

1014
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: your eye that you're like thinking, okay, the tape and

1015
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: the workout match, he's a guy, maybe a second day guy,

1016
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: third day guy, that somebody is gonna get it, get

1017
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: extreme value for as a player. And and and it

1018
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 1: seems like the big buzz, the big buzz around has

1019
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 1: been about the three down player. You know who's the

1020
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Speaker 1: that was? That was the broadcast today. It was Mike

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00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: if you're watching on TV as Mike may I's he's

1022
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Speaker 1: this three down guy. He's a three down guy, he said.

1023
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Speaker 1: And we've kind of been talking about that on the

1024
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Speaker 1: Draft show a bunch, even last year, even two years ago,

1025
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Speaker 1: with the te Tevin Coleman's and guys like that. We

1026
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: were talking about the three down him. That's what the

1027
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 1: NFL is trying to go to. But is there's somebody

1028
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: like that that you saw today in the in the

1029
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: in the in the way that the workouts went. And

1030
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: I'm not about McCaffrey because he blew this thing. Yeah,

1031
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: you go ahead and bring up I think he had

1032
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 1: the best day of anybody that worked out on that field.

1033
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: He did overall, lineman, running backs, whatever, whoever worked out today,

1034
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: I thought he was the best one. And the three

1035
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: cone is just an amazing yever, it's a phenomenal numbers.

1036
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: It's one of the best we've seen from him running

1037
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 1: back in quite some time. Um. And this is a

1038
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: guy you watched him during the drills, h the receiving drills.

1039
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Speaker 1: He's outstanding. And I've said this before, He's going to

1040
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,240
Speaker 1: run better routes than probably some receivers that are drafted

1041
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 1: ahead of him. Right. But to me, he just confirmed

1042
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: what we already knew. He's a first round player. He

1043
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: belongs in the first round. Um, he's one of the

1044
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: top twenty five players in this draft. If you can't

1045
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: figure out how to use them, you're just you need

1046
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: to reevaluate how you're calling plays. He's just that type

1047
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: of weapon with the ball in his hands. And you're

1048
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: not gonna give him twenty five carries a game. That's

1049
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 1: just not who he is. But give him twenty five

1050
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 1: touches a game. If you're a general manager and you

1051
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 1: pick him, do you walk into your coach, well, you

1052
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:44,439
Speaker 1: probably you're welcome. Yeah, find find something for this guy

1053
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 1: to do. Here's the and he's definitely a first round player,

1054
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: one hundred percent obviously. And our Poul said last night

1055
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: the Cowboy fans really didn't want him. Well, I mean,

1056
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,439
Speaker 1: I still I get I get where they're going. Yeah,

1057
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: I don't if anybody think differently, But here, okay, do

1058
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: you agree with me on this. Whoever drafts him just

1059
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: by virtue of his range on the board and then

1060
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 1: what he does. Whoever drafts him isn't gonna need him,

1061
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, he's not a guy

1062
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: that you're drafting to fill an immediate hole. I think

1063
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: you're drafting him as a compliment to what you already have.

1064
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: And that scares me well because you're not saying a

1065
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 1: really good team is going to pick him, Yeah, basically

1066
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: a team that already had. Like, he's not You're not

1067
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: drafting him and be your first running back. You're not

1068
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,760
Speaker 1: drafting him to be your first, second or third receiver probably,

1069
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: but he's gonna be. He's Darren Sproles. You have to

1070
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,439
Speaker 1: draft him with a role in mind, exactly, absolutely, and

1071
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: I think the team that does that will be a

1072
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: team that can afford to pick a player like that.

1073
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 1: But what okay, what about a team like the Giants

1074
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: who don't have that clear cut top backs? Do the

1075
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: Eagles really have they? But they I mean they well

1076
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: they rot. Darren Sprowls made, Yeah, the obvious place New

1077
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: England gets brought up. I didn't want to say that

1078
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,919
Speaker 1: because it's so obvious, but right, that is the obvious place.

1079
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: And they've shown they've known how to know how to

1080
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: use that type of talent um. But I do think

1081
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: a team like the Giants, a team like the Packers,

1082
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you can still use time Montgomery.

1083
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:14,439
Speaker 1: It isn't Montgomery that guy that they already have? That guy? Better? Hey,

1084
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 1: have two of them? What's wrong? You know? I know

1085
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 1: Ron Wolfe always said even at the Packers, and it was, hey,

1086
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: if you feel good at a position, keep drafting him,

1087
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: keep drafting him. And you know, this kind of contradicts

1088
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: what I've said about you know, the Cowboys not drafting him.

1089
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 1: But if you can't figure out how to use him

1090
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: on your offense, I'm hey, I don't think I still

1091
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: don't think it would be a great idea. But having

1092
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: seen that and having no knowing what I know, I

1093
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: it would not take me long to be on board

1094
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: with that pick. I think you can talk yourself into that.

1095
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 1: I kind of look at some other ones back to

1096
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 1: your original. Yeah, you know. Second third, I thought t J.

1097
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: Logan helped himself. North Carolina running back. Yeah, this is

1098
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: a player who I I thought it's better. Elijah Hood,

1099
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: the running back from North Carolina, gets most of the

1100
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: pub I think TJ. Logan's better. Uh, more of a

1101
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: talking about complimentary back. That's t J. Logan. He's under

1102
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 1: two hundred pounds, but he's fast. Uh you know, give him.

1103
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: How well did he catch the ball at North Carolina?

1104
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 1: Pretty well? That's because it looked like in the drills

1105
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: there were a couple of times he struggled with that

1106
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: and he might have. Um, I didn't see him catch

1107
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 1: the ball today, But you know he's he's kind of

1108
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: that scat back. Ye use him out of the backfield,

1109
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: you know, get him uh, you know, moving on stretches,

1110
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 1: you know, let him one cut, get him up field.

1111
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: He can five he dances, but he's decisive. You know,

1112
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 1: he kind of walks that fine line uh to make

1113
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 1: guys miss. So I think t J. Logan, uh, somewhere

1114
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: in the middle rounds would make a lot of sense.

1115
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: How about Kareem Hunt. Love him, He's a top senior

1116
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:44,439
Speaker 1: back this year. That yeah, see I the speed said

1117
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: four six two that's fine' that's I think that shows

1118
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 1: you can catch the player a lot. Oh yeah, you're

1119
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: not draft him because of his speed. That's people get

1120
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: so wrapped up in the forty And it really doesn't

1121
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: matter to me for for running backs especially, Yeah, you know,

1122
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: it's it's something where how many times is a running

1123
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: back truly running forty yards in a straight line? If

1124
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 1: I was spending I might I would care more if

1125
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: I was spending a first round pick. But you're talking

1126
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: about a mid round pick. Yeah, I'm talking to a guy, right.

1127
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: How about a guy like Boom Williams from Kentucky. I'm

1128
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: not a fan. I didn't like his tape. I think

1129
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: he's underpowered. Um he's five seven one ninety. Yeah, I

1130
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: don't but the speedo you wouldn't even go back on him.

1131
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: But you saw the tape. You don't like I started

1132
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 1: the tape. I didn't like the tape. To me, he's

1133
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: a you know, a late maybe seventh round guy, maybe

1134
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: a p FA. I think for me, he'll probably end

1135
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 1: up as a priority free agent, but I wouldn't be

1136
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 1: surprised of a team thought he'd be worth a six

1137
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 1: or seventh rounder. Let me ask you, this brad guy

1138
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: you're talking to me, we're talking about the three down backs,

1139
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: but I'm thinking, um, what about what about specialists? And

1140
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: I know you talked to don Ald Pumphrey yesterday? Yeah,

1141
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: what about guys like that? Again? Thinking about the Cowboys?

1142
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: Where's where's my lance dunbar? Can I get a guy

1143
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 1: like that? Pumphrey was a guy today. I thought he

1144
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: had a my lance dunbar, But maybe my lucky white

1145
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 1: head I can kill. Made a great point yesterday about

1146
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: quarterbacks throwing too receivers or throwing to backs or whatever.

1147
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 1: The bullpen quarterbacks at this camp did these running backs

1148
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: no favor when they started running. Pumphrey did not get

1149
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: featured in anything today. The ball was either too short,

1150
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: too far, too wide, to this to that. He is

1151
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: flying home right now mad because of what happened to

1152
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: him today. He did not get to talk about the

1153
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: thing or excuse me, He did not get to show

1154
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,439
Speaker 1: the things that he's really really good at, and that's

1155
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,240
Speaker 1: like you know, catching the football. Those kinds of things.

1156
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 1: You know, that to me was disappointing because I wanted

1157
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,359
Speaker 1: to see I wanted to see that. I wanted to

1158
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 1: see that role of Okay, swing it to him, wheel

1159
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: it to him, throw it to the screen, throw the

1160
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: flat through, all that stuff to him. He didn't get

1161
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 1: one ball thrown well to him today. Hey, I know

1162
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: we're in our final minutes. I want to touch on

1163
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 1: a few things we saw today from the receivers and

1164
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks that came through here. Yeah. Uh, Mike Williams

1165
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: deciding not to run. You know, it's one of those

1166
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: guys who we kind of you know, if he ran

1167
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: a good time, could he cement himself over Corey Davis's

1168
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: top guy, you think, oh yeah, because he said he

1169
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 1: kind of danced around it. But he said, you know,

1170
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: I only have to run a forty yard dash once

1171
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: in my life. I'm gonna you know, he kind of said,

1172
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:20,919
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure it's the best I can run.

1173
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: And I don't fault him for that. He'll run out

1174
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 1: of the Pro Day. But if he doesn't do well there,

1175
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: he doesn't have another time to make it up. Don't

1176
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: don't you just I don't I don't fault him for

1177
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 1: it either, but just just do it. Just just compete. Yeah,

1178
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: because he mentioned Jerry Rays didn't have a good one.

1179
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: He mentioned Antonio Brown out right now. He was laying

1180
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: laying the groundwork for disappointing. It's going to be right,

1181
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: and that's what you worry about. So, uh, is he

1182
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: a four six athlete? Is that just what he is? Um?

1183
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: What else? Today? David and JOKEU. I thought he was

1184
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: really impressive up there for a twenty year old player, Jake,

1185
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 1: but two was another guy in Joku. He uh, he

1186
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: wants to break the broad jump record and so Byron Jones, Wow,

1187
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: you're on, You're on notice? Are you kidding me? I

1188
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: wasn't there for that part. Yea, the tight end is

1189
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: gonna break Byron's record and at two hundred forty six pounds, okay,

1190
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: at two hundred and twenty pounds in high school he

1191
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: was a high school national hurdler or a national jump champion.

1192
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: So you know, is he gonna break twelve three? Probably not,

1193
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 1: but the fact that he thinks he can is amazing. Well,

1194
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: the record for a player over two hundred forty pounds

1195
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: is Jamie Collins, who did it I think he was

1196
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: eleven seven, So that's to me, that's the goal for

1197
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: and Joko if he can get eleven seven or better,

1198
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: which is just an ungodly number. That's a sill, that's

1199
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: a full half sandwich away like further Yeah, that's insane.

1200
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: So tomorrow we will have on the workouts quarterback, quarterbacks,

1201
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: wide receivers, and tight end. I remember day and that

1202
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 1: used to be the tight ends with the last group

1203
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: to work out on a Monday. Our guy Shaheen too. Yeah,

1204
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: we got see and we'll document that tomorrow night. Get

1205
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: ready for that. Shy Okay. Well, that's all the time

1206
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: we have out there. Thanks to everybody. Let's say special

1207
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 1: thanks to Lorna Rose who is with us today. She's

1208
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: been helping us out here, better known as Mighty to

1209
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 1: you out there in the world. She's been having fun

1210
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: with us at the combin. I want to combine and

1211
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: see all this. We've enjoyed having her here with us.

1212
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: I want to thank Dane Brugler, David Hellman, Keik Garrison,

1213
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 1: executive producer Derek Eagleton, and I also want to thanks

1214
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: Taylor Sterning for always putting all our stuff out. And

1215
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:27,479
Speaker 1: I want to Thank you guys out there for joining

1216
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 1: us as well on the Draft Show. We'll be back

1217
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: final show from the Combine tomorrow. We'll see you in