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Speaker 1: What stands out to you about the twenty twenty two draft,

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Speaker 1: How does that impact maybe the decision making it? Does

426
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Speaker 1: you have to you know, when when was the injury?

427
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Speaker 1: When is he going to be ready? Is there any

428
00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,760
Speaker 1: type of degeneration that's gonna hurt his ability to sign

429
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Speaker 1: him to a second contract. So you have to factor

430
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Speaker 1: all that stuff and we'll we'll meet with the doctors

431
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Speaker 1: um and kind of go or that that information. But

432
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Speaker 1: I mean, we we drafted out Brian Scholefield in the

433
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Speaker 1: fourth round. If you remember a handful of years ago. Um,

434
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Speaker 1: and that was that was a guy who probably would

435
00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 1: have been a second round pick. Um. But again that

436
00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,320
Speaker 1: was risk involved in that player. He was devalued because

437
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:43,680
Speaker 1: of the injury. We take him in the fourth round.

438
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,119
Speaker 1: He ended up being a productive cardinal. Um. It's the

439
00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,240
Speaker 1: same thing at in the first round that you have

440
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Speaker 1: to deal with again with a Jabo who's obviously a

441
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 1: talented first round type player. UM, but he again he's

442
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,200
Speaker 1: probably gonna lose it all seem because when is he

443
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 1: going to be ready? When is that Achille's gonna gonna heal?

444
00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 1: How many starts are you gonna get out of him?

445
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,239
Speaker 1: You know? Um, I've been talking about in that in

446
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,360
Speaker 1: regards to that, like a guy like Landon Dickerson last

447
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 1: year who went UM in the second round to Philadelphia,

448
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,439
Speaker 1: had a late season ACL at Alabama. They ended up

449
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,160
Speaker 1: getting fourteen starts out of the out of the kids.

450
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,440
Speaker 1: So again, if you could sit there and say, well,

451
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 1: what are we going to get out of him? We

452
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,160
Speaker 1: get this many starts, then you know, maybe you feel

453
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,440
Speaker 1: better about the pick. But that's good. Again, that's gonna

454
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 1: be up to what the doctors tell us. And guys

455
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 1: like that former first round pick who's now an Arizona Cardinal.

456
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,879
Speaker 1: Jeff Gladdening tell us about him and why why he

457
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Speaker 1: signed on the line that has data with a Cardinals,

458
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,639
Speaker 1: and what you like about him. Well, the fact that

459
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 1: it's to me, it's a freebee. We got an extra

460
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,640
Speaker 1: first round pick, you know, basically in free agency. Incredibly

461
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,119
Speaker 1: quick footed, highly instinctive player. It's a reason again he

462
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,239
Speaker 1: went into the first round and we're getting a you know,

463
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 1: a starter in our building with and we didn't you know,

464
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 1: waste any draft capital basically, so um, he helps us out.

465
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Speaker 1: Immediately excited to have him, and he's gonna help a

466
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 1: big time again. I'll take him that next step. We

467
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Speaker 1: know the value that you guys place in linement. Offensive line.

468
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 1: I think four of the five starters are gonna be

469
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Speaker 1: in the final year of their deal or in one

470
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Speaker 1: year deal. And then defensive line with the loss of

471
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Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips and Corey Peters, etc. So Daniel Jeremiah on

472
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Speaker 1: the pashpod set and I quote the defensive lineman Davante

473
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 1: Wyatt feels like a Steve Kind pig. That's what he said.

474
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Speaker 1: Just in general, though, how about that defensive tackle position,

475
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Speaker 1: and what do you think about it in this year's draft?

476
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Speaker 1: Strong strong interesting again, I mean you talk about him

477
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Speaker 1: or his or his teammate, Um Jordan Davis, who you

478
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 1: know ran four seven at three hundred and forty one pounds. There,

479
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,400
Speaker 1: it's a it's a talented group. And again don't want

480
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Speaker 1: to speak too much on individual guys, but um it's

481
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Speaker 1: definitely a deep class and also on the offensive line

482
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Speaker 1: side too. Um So, But again, I don't know how

483
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Speaker 1: it's gonna fall into one twenty and I don't know

484
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Speaker 1: who's gonna with the twenty two picks before us are

485
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 1: gonna look like. So you know, if a D lineman's

486
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Speaker 1: there and he's the top guy, that's gonna be the guy.

487
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Speaker 1: If it's a guard, if it's a tackle, I don't know,

488
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Speaker 1: but I guess we're gonna stick to the philosophy. We're

489
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 1: going to stick take on the best player, because if

490
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 1: you want to keep that offensive line off, you're two

491
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,400
Speaker 1: young first round inside linebackers. I mean, defensive tackle isn't

492
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 1: a bad way to go, right, absolutely no doubt. How

493
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 1: about when you look at the division, to what degree

494
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Speaker 1: do you assess the NFC West and the strength of

495
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: your opponents in the division. As to what your wants

496
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 1: and needs are from year to year, you have to

497
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 1: consider it, no doubt. And you know, if you're playing

498
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: athletic tight ends or if you're trying to contain Russell Wilson,

499
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 1: you know that's something that always has to factor in.

500
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 1: But again, I don't think you need to press or

501
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 1: drive up a player because of that need again, because

502
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 1: then I think you pass on you know, possibly a

503
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 1: better player. I don't, you know. But it's something that

504
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 1: no doubt factors. So we had Rasha Johnson on last week,

505
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 1: former Cardinals safety is you know, member of the Bama

506
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: broadcast crew any draft from when we took him, absolutely,

507
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: and he told a couple of stories and look, his

508
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,679
Speaker 1: backstory is a big reason you took him as one

509
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Speaker 1: of the only two time team captains for Nick Saban

510
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 1: and program history of former walk on at Alabama, right,

511
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 1: he had those intangible He talked about Jamison Williams not

512
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 1: only is a an elite speed guy and a great receiver,

513
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: but he was a gunner right and special teams and

514
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: he's tough. He got kicked out of a game for

515
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: getting too physical and too intense. And then we mentioned

516
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Speaker 1: Treylon Burkes. So when he tells the story, Burks does,

517
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: all right, this according to Trey Wingo that uh that

518
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 1: he goes out hunting wild boar with a knife and

519
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 1: his dogs and quote, some people probably consider me crazy,

520
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 1: but that's just how I am. Right. How big a

521
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 1: plus is that in the war room when a guy

522
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: sort of has that sort of mentality. Well, I think

523
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 1: with Sean Jefferson, here's that that makes him like it,

524
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: like him even more. Uh So, But you know absolutely,

525
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 1: I mean you just think about that mentality. He's he

526
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: you know, that's that's a that's a guy that that

527
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 1: can get down and dirty. He's a dog. Um. You know,

528
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 1: he's not afraid to work. He's not afraid to get

529
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 1: a little grimy. Uh you know that that's uh, you

530
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 1: know what you're gonna get from that kid, you know,

531
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Speaker 1: just just with that mentality. And as we wrap it

532
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 1: up with Drew Grigson here, what's left on the free

533
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: agent market? Do you still expect action from the Cardinals? Absolutely,

534
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 1: it's not over. I mean if you think about where

535
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: we when we signed James Conner last year, it was

536
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: a month in the free agency. We ended up getting

537
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: a pro border with eighteen touchdowns that we just signed

538
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 1: to a new three year deal. So you know, if

539
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: the doors never closed, we're going to keep looking at

540
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 1: those names that are out there, are going to keep

541
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: working the phones and talking to agents and keep trying

542
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: to put the best ninety on the field before training camp.

543
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: So we're scanning it every day, and we're working the

544
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 1: phones every day, and Steve is working it every day.

545
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 1: So we're gonna keep churning those names until we have

546
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 1: the best roster possible before training camp. So how spirited

547
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: has it been, Drew? I mean, if we had those

548
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: hard knocks cameras behind those doors in the war room,

549
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 1: how energetic I'm using a euphemism right now. Has it

550
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 1: been behind there? Very this year? Very energetic? And you

551
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: know I kind of start the meeting by saying, guys, listen,

552
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 1: we want it to be energetic. We don't want group think.

553
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: We want differences opinion, and with that difference of opinion

554
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: comes passion, and the guys are paid to be passionate

555
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: about I don't want you just read the news. I

556
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: want you to finish talking about the player and I

557
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 1: want to know if you love them, do you want

558
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 1: them to be a Cardinal. So it got spirited. It

559
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: gets spirited, but we do it with respect, you know,

560
00:25:58,400 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: and that's the most important thing at the end of

561
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: the day. You may love a player, I may not

562
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: like the player, but we're just gonna try to get

563
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 1: him right for the Cardinals because at the end of

564
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: the day, we're trying to draft that player to make

565
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 1: us better, get to win a championship. That's what we're

566
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: all trying to do. We're all trying to get better.

567
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: We're all trying to win. So we have respect amongst

568
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 1: each other. We have spirited conversation and we all have

569
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 1: our own opinions, and that's what makes this thing great.

570
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: That's how you get a Buddha Baker in round two, right,

571
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: Jalen Thompson right in round five of us supplement of

572
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: Marco Wilson and round four. It's having those conversations and

573
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: it's it's talking it out and you know, gathering all

574
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: that information that we've spent years getting and putting it

575
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: to work for us. True, thank you, thank you. All. Right,

576
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 1: there you go. Drew Grigson, director of Player of Personnel

577
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: on the Big Red Rage. We continue right after this.

578
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: Let's start that off as Bruce arians act. I'm talking

579
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: about that at Murray and shot gun snapped the Kyler

580
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 1: at a ton of little short set. See I did

581
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 1: that short set a little bit now throwing deep fire

582
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 1: side and is pulled in into five yard. All right,

583
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: hold on, I gotta grab myself a crown royal. Here

584
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: a little sipp in debate, little sipp in debates? Did

585
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:08,959
Speaker 1: NIPPERU finished the callege? Jack Nicholson. AJ Green just too strong,

586
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 1: too big, too athletic. To Tracy Morgan, I want a

587
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: great read by Kyler Murray to throw the ball. Say

588
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: it as Morgan Freeman, What a great read by Kyler

589
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: Murray to throw the ball. You've got a scarecrow on

590
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: a stick. Put it out there, let him go get it.

591
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: That's exactly what a J. Green did. Can you do

592
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: it as Liam Neeson? Want a great read by Kyler

593
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: Murray to throw the ball. You've got a scarecrow on

594
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: a stick, Put it out there, let him go get it.

595
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 1: That's exactly what a J. Green did. Oh man, oh man,

596
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: that is just so legendary. That episode of the Pashpod

597
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: with Frank Caliendo, the master of all voices that Tracy Morgan,

598
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: by the way, is still underrated in my opinion, And

599
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: that was based on your call a forty one yard

600
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: AJ Green touchdown catch and run against the Rams, right

601
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: and the scarecrow on a stick, right, That's that's what

602
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: he was, That's what he was using as a muse,

603
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 1: right there wasn't he? Yes, Paul it But honestly, every

604
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: one of those absolutely nails from Frankie just entertaining stuff

605
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,479
Speaker 1: and the Day Pash podcast. In fact, we're gonna get

606
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: to some of that the most recent edition here momentarily.

607
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: But what did you make of Drew Grickson and his

608
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: comments on AJ Green in the news today that he

609
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: resigned another one year deal for the years in a

610
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: Cardinals two thousand. Yeah. Now, first of all, let me

611
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: just say, Paul, I thought you did an awesome job Withdrew.

612
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: And I'm not just saying that so because you're my friend,

613
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: but well, we missed you, We missed you. But you know,

614
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: the footprints are on the table again, like he said,

615
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: So that's good. That was just fantastic right there. And

616
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: I thought Drew, of course, he is demonstrating why at

617
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: some point in time he will be considered as a

618
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: general manager down the road, of course, I think, yeah,

619
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: definitely is on the horizon for Drew. You know, a

620
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: couple of observations in terms of what he said. Yeah,

621
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: the aj Green thing was right on, spot on, But

622
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: for the most part I thought it was interesting he

623
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: was talking about this draft and how much deeper this

624
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: draft is because of the guys coming back from COVID.

625
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: That is something I didn't think of Paulli. And yet

626
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: at the same time, it really makes an awful lot

627
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: of sense. One of the reasons why you might have

628
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: twenty now he said, twenty edge rushers. That might be

629
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: a little strong right there from Daniel Jeremiah, but still

630
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: it might be one of the reasons why you do

631
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: have more depth at some of these positions. Yes, and

632
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: even if you don't have twenty blue Chippers at edge,

633
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: for example, you do have more depth late in the draft, right,

634
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: I said. And so when the Cardinals have two picks

635
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: in the sixth round and three and the seventh, those

636
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: might be more valuable than ever. Right. And then and

637
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Speaker 1: then free agents guys who don't sign, there's going to

638
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Speaker 1: be a big fury to go ahead and in a

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Speaker 1: frenzy to get those guys you know. So now, as

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Speaker 1: for last year and Rondelle Moore, let's go back to

641
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Speaker 1: what Shaun Jefferson told us on a recent edition offseason

642
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Speaker 1: edition here of the Big Red Rage, because last year's

643
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Speaker 1: round two pick might just be a receiver to this year.

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Speaker 1: Here's Sean Jefferson. The next step for him is talking

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Speaker 1: to more down field, adding to his route tree. You

646
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Speaker 1: know it's coming in as a rookie. You know, you

647
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Speaker 1: got de Hobb, you got Christen Kirg, you got aj Green.

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Speaker 1: So he's kind of lost in that, you know what

649
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Speaker 1: I'm saying about being a rookie and everything like that.

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Speaker 1: But that's one of the things that me and ronde

651
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Speaker 1: Hall discussed about growing his routes. So you've been able

652
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Speaker 1: to put him outside a little bit more where he

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Speaker 1: can run some of those routes on the outside, so

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Speaker 1: his route tree would grow leaps and bounds. And we

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Speaker 1: bring that up just to get us to a receiver

656
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Speaker 1: in this trap because roll, I mean the last few years,

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Speaker 1: I and look I own it. I would cite the

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Speaker 1: hit rate on first round receivers and I would scream no, no,

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Speaker 1: and more no. But I look at some of the

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Speaker 1: guys this year. For example, a realistic possibility according to

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Speaker 1: most of the mocked as Arkansas receiver Treylon Birds six

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Speaker 1: two two twenty five. He benches three eighty, he squats

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Speaker 1: five hundred in just the way the Cardinals may or

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Speaker 1: may not be going in terms of the physicality. He

665
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: just seems to fit their identity. And if you're feeding

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Speaker 1: it to James Connor and then all of a sudden

667
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Speaker 1: you're giving a quick bubble screen or maybe a quick

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Speaker 1: slant to a Treylon Burks and you're just hammering defenses,

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Speaker 1: I could see him being the guy at twenty three. Yeah, Polly,

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Speaker 1: you know once again too. I will also say that

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Speaker 1: Treylon Burks a guy that I think is really good

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Speaker 1: at getting off the press. He's got great size, as

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Speaker 1: you've already mentioned, six to two hundred and twenty five pounds.

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Speaker 1: This is a guy that ran like a four five

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Speaker 1: five Polly, that is his time for the forty. But

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Speaker 1: most people think that he's faster. He's got game speed.

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Speaker 1: In other words, he runs as fast as it. Very

678
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Speaker 1: similar to Jerry Rice. Jerry Rice was that way coming

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Speaker 1: out of college. Jerry ran a four six five on

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Speaker 1: a clock. Yet you threw that ball into the air.

681
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: Isn't that right? Joe Montana and Jerry Rice was gonna

682
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: run as fast as he needed to to get underneath it.

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Speaker 1: Treylon Burks reminds me an awful lot like that, But

684
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Speaker 1: also to Paulli, this is me. I continue to say this,

685
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Speaker 1: and I continue to believe the Arizona Cardinals. They're gonna

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00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: go with a lot more twelve personnel, two tight end sets,

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Speaker 1: and with a guy like DeAndre Hopkins on one side

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00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: and then maybe a Treylon Burks or even Rondell More

689
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: of course on the other side, or now aj Green,

690
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: They're going to attack the line of scrimmage and take

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Speaker 1: some shots down the field. The bashi and bomb perspective

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Speaker 1: of Bruce Arians. It's not going to be the bashi

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Speaker 1: and bomb offense of Bruce Arians, Polly, That's never going

694
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Speaker 1: to be the case here. Yet, having said that, it's

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00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: still gonna be that type of impact I think on

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Speaker 1: this offense, and that means you're gonna take some shots

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Speaker 1: down the field. You want big, physical guys who can

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Speaker 1: get off the press. Daniel Jeremiah on the Passpod this

699
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: week and he was asked by Dave about trey Lin

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Speaker 1: Burkes the SEC first team or out of Arkansas. To me,

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Speaker 1: the most intriguing one is Burks because he gives him

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Speaker 1: a two hundred and twenty five pound guy that can

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Speaker 1: do a lot of the stuff that they do, you know,

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00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: in terms of getting the ball in his hands, let

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Speaker 1: him run after the catch, and it just gives him

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a different look than what they've had.

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Speaker 1: You know, Gosh, you watched Debo and you see him

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Speaker 1: inside the division. The ability to put him in the backfield,

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Speaker 1: do different things, get the ball out of your hand

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Speaker 1: quick and let guys make plays with the football. That's

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Speaker 1: what he does. Arkansas lined him up everywhere except offensive line. Literally,

712
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Speaker 1: he was a quarterback, he was in the backfield, he

713
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: was a tight end, he was at all the receiver spots.

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Speaker 1: They just found a way to get him in the ball,

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Speaker 1: not unlike a Deebo Samuel. So you know, it just

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Speaker 1: it's intriguing. And then to have a guy with that

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Speaker 1: sort of physicality a receiver and that's sort of mentality

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Speaker 1: he's out there. I mean, you heard Drew Grigson talk

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Speaker 1: about what a plus it is when you hear a

720
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Speaker 1: guy is out hunting wild boar with a knife, and

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Speaker 1: his dogs. You know who I think of is that's

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Speaker 1: who I think and you just you're you're trying to

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Speaker 1: find that sort of guy who gives you that sort

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Speaker 1: of mentality un offense. Yeah, now you're right about that, Bali,

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Speaker 1: And it's going to be really, really interesting to see

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Speaker 1: because even at twenty three right now, I do believe

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals they need on the edge. We know

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Speaker 1: that they need a wide receiver, they need a corner,

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Speaker 1: they need a defensive tackle. In my opinion, they need

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Speaker 1: an offensive guard as well. But that again is number six,

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Speaker 1: so that's well down the draft board chart of needs.

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Speaker 1: But Polly, they they are in a great position to

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Speaker 1: take the best player available, whomever that may be. And

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Speaker 1: I got a good feeling DeVante White could be there

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Speaker 1: at number twenty three and I wouldn't be shocked. I

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Speaker 1: would not be shocked. And it's not because Daniel Jeremiah

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Speaker 1: said it. It's just I would not be shocked to

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Speaker 1: see Steve Kim in the Arizona Cardinals take DeVante whatt

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Speaker 1: if he's there. Well, quoting Drew Grigson loosely, he likes

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Speaker 1: twenty three for the fact that, you know what you're

741
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: gonna get a football player. You might not get all

742
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: the hype and all the combine numbers and all the

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00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: flash and all that. At that point, a lot of

744
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: those guys are gone. You're going to get a baller. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, DeVante Wyatt is a motorhead, Paul, he's a motorhead.

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Speaker 1: This is a guy. It's not the motorhead the grease

747
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: or Paul, don't think about that. And some guy that's

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Speaker 1: smoking cigarettes Paul in his grease back hair and he's

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Speaker 1: working on cars, Paul, That's not what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about just a motorhead. This is a guy

751
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: that just has got a motor and he's just gonna

752
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna turn that thing on, Paul. And he's three

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Speaker 1: hundred three pounds. And oh, by the way, he ran

754
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: a four seven seven at three hundred three pounds. Okay,

755
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: this guy is Okay, I'm kind of in love with

756
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: this guy, right. I think about Wyatt, I admit it.

757
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 1: I think a motorhead. I think of the band, and

758
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: I think in the Lake great Lemmy the lead singer.

759
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: But what about what about what about that would be

760
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: his nickname? Yeah, it's beautiful Lemon. That's good, by the way.

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00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: Jeff Gladney, how about his comments, I'm Gladney True Grigson,

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Speaker 1: director of player Personnel. Because we haven't heard a lot

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Speaker 1: from the decision makers. I'm Gladney. He called him a freebee,

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Speaker 1: an extra first round pick. You know that you didn't

765
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Speaker 1: have to expend any draft capital. He's got the quick feat,

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Speaker 1: he's instinctive, he's physical. Jeff Gladney, the former first rounder

767
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: out of TCU who missed last year. And and you're

768
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: talking he called him a starter as well. Yeah, he did, bully.

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Speaker 1: That's that's what I wrote down in my notes right here.

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Speaker 1: Okay he said the same thing, first round pick, but

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Speaker 1: he said starter. He's a starter, And okay, Um, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to get too excited about that, Polly, because honestly,

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00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: once again, UM, you'd be talking about a guy that

774
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: is going to play his second year in the league. Um,

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00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: prove it, you know what I mean, young guy, That's

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Speaker 1: what it's all about. It's all a while proving it.

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Speaker 1: You know. I don't get too excited about draft picks

778
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: coming in and making a huge difference unless his name

779
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: is Davante Wyatt. Then all of a sudden, I get

780
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: a little jacked up on that BALI But at the

781
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: same time, I listen, Rook, prove it. You know, so

782
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: I want to see I want to see veterans. I

783
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,240
Speaker 1: want to see veterans, and I want to see veterans

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00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: actually make the difference for the Arizona Cardinals offensively and

785
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: defensively by going out and playing up to their ability

786
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 1: and doing it in a more physical way. He called

787
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: the edge rusher group, by the way, deep and diverse.

788
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: You get guys who are long, you get guys, speed, guys.

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00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: You know, you have some power guys. You have some

790
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 1: edge rushers who put up a lot of production. Other

791
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 1: guys who didn't have the production, but they have the traits.

792
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: So but see, I hear Jeff Gladney starter, I think

793
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 1: if they're going corner, it's round three or beyond. I

794
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: think automatically it's d line, it's receiver, or its whole

795
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Speaker 1: line in those first two rounds. That's just me and

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00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: that's just my direct And you know what, I think,

797
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,919
Speaker 1: Oh line, we're not talking enough about. I think that's

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00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: probably more of an underrated area. If there is like

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00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: that guard out of Texas, A and M and I

800
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: always forget his name. If he's sitting there at number

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Speaker 1: twenty three, not be Kenyan Green, I would not be

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00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: surprised at all if he's an Arizona Cardinal. Exactly right.

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Speaker 1: Not only that too, PAULI. But the board is set.

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00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: Did you hear that? The horizontal The horizontal board is set.

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Speaker 1: Now the one twenty has got to be sat up

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna take three days to do that. Oh baby,

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00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: that is the best of the best, setting the one twenty.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, you can get ready with episode

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Speaker 1: twenty eight of the Dave Pash Podcast featuring NFL Network

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00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: Draft analyst Daniel Jeremiah, available now wherever you get your podcasts,

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Speaker 1: and to catch up on past episodes, of course, you

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00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: can just go via Twitter at Pash pod. So there

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Speaker 1: you go. Look, we're gonna come back. We got a

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Speaker 1: special shout out to a very special employee of the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals over the years, and we'll get more and

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Speaker 1: what Wolf thinks the Cardinals eat in this draft? Next?

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Speaker 1: Now the Big Red Rage presented by Satan Ford in

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Speaker 1: Gilbert's going it out So promising. It's seven and old

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Speaker 1: thumb us out of the Frett first of all. I've

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00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: been around this game my whole life, and you try

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00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 1: not to get too high or too low. And but

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Speaker 1: you know, with the disappointing end to the season that

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Speaker 1: we had last year, you know, certainly it's stunned. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back. We leave that, you know, I thought last

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00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: year will be our year, but things take time. I'm

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Speaker 1: truly look forward to come into work every day from

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Speaker 1: this Instagram account, it's crazy situation with Kyler Murray, I'm

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinal. Firstly, we all stayed in communication. Man. It

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Speaker 1: means everything for them to be able to come out

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Speaker 1: and experience this with me. Appreciate your new trophy, you know,

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Speaker 1: because it's not possible without them. Cold's back, Ques coming

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Speaker 1: back restructure. Sad about losing c K chasing them, but

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Speaker 1: I'll never be mad about my friends getting paid money

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Speaker 1: and having the opportunities just gets you all more excited

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Speaker 1: to see who your new teammates are going to be

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Speaker 1: and how the next year's gonna go. It's kind of

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Speaker 1: the NFL life. The voices of Michael Bidwell Byron Murphy,

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Speaker 1: James Conner, Zacherts, Kyler Murray, Max Williams. It is season five,

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Speaker 1: episode one of Cardinals Flight Plan premiers Tuesday, April nineteenth.

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Speaker 1: This coming Tuesday, via the Cardinals YouTube channel, that's YouTube

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Speaker 1: dot com slash a z Cardinals go behind the scenes

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Speaker 1: into the Cardinals offseason, including free agents, like we talked

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Speaker 1: about Jeff Gladdening, there some great stuff, James Conner and

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Speaker 1: his family and just you know that's gonna debut. We

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Speaker 1: already saw the trailer. You just heard it right there,

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Speaker 1: and so looking forward to all that and then the

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Speaker 1: course they're going to add to this offseason shortly two

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Speaker 1: weeks in counting with the twenty twenty two draft. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, Wolf do you see earlier today the

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Speaker 1: NFL research team crunched the numbers on strength of schedule.

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Speaker 1: The Cardinals upcoming schedule number two. In terms of strength

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Speaker 1: of schedule, the Rams had the most difficult, the hard

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Speaker 1: to schedule. The Cardinals are second, Cincinnati, the Bengals are third,

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Speaker 1: Tampa's fourth, and then the Niners and KC are fifth. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know, Polly that it's really really tough when you

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Speaker 1: see that. And I'm not trying to pooh pooh anything,

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Speaker 1: but you know, what's a year to year proposition? It is,

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Speaker 1: It really is yeah, there's one reason, because you're playing

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Speaker 1: the AFC West, right right, yeah, right. In fact, you want,

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Speaker 1: I'll just drop in right now that you can join

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals season ticket priority list for the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty two season because opponents at home include not only

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Speaker 1: the NFC West, but the Bucks, the Saints, the Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: the Chargers, the Patriots, and the Eagles. A lot of

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Speaker 1: playoff teams in there, and a lot of marquee names.

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Speaker 1: Asy cardinals dot com slash priority list for more information.

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Speaker 1: So interesting when you look through you know my big

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Speaker 1: fear right now, wolf is I name these other teams

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Speaker 1: and I start thinking, okay, is someone gonna make a

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Speaker 1: run at all these receivers before the Cardinals pick at

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Speaker 1: number twenty three because the Eagles are at eighteen. A

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00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: lot of mocks have him going receiver. The Saints at

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Speaker 1: nineteen supposedly that's their number one one or need the

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00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: Patriots need receivers at twenty one. Now, the Packers got

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Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins today, but they easily could still go receiver

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Speaker 1: at twenty two, No, no doubt about that, Polly. And

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Speaker 1: you know what's so fascinating is Jamison Williams that is

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Speaker 1: the guy from Alabama. That is the guy, Polly, that

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Speaker 1: I wonder about because of his injury, because of the

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00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: fact that he's probably not going to be back until October,

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Speaker 1: maybe even November. That is a very interesting proposition at

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Speaker 1: wide receiver. Will the New York Jets stop and think

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Speaker 1: about it right now? The New York Jets at number four.

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Speaker 1: I could see them take him as high as number

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Speaker 1: four because he has been compared to Tyree Hill. Paul, Hello,

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Speaker 1: the closest thing to Tyree Hill. Okay, Jamison Williams. Now,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden at number four, Okay, he's not

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Speaker 1: going to be back to November. What did the New

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00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: York Jets care? Because, Polly, do you think the New

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00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 1: York Jets really think they're in there running for a

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00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: postseason position? I doubted Paul so not in their division, No, PAULI.

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Speaker 1: And because they needed wide receiver badly as well. I

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Speaker 1: would not be surprised because most people will tell you

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Speaker 1: that Jamison Williams would be the highest wide receiver rated

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Speaker 1: in this draft if it were not for his injury,

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Speaker 1: and I believe that, Yeah, that is a great observation,

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Speaker 1: and that would be a shrewd pick by the Jets.

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Speaker 1: I mean to do that top five, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: All right, Wolf, we had a retirement. It was official today.

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00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: I had the honor of attending the lunchtime ceremony that

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00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: was conducted by Michael Bidwell. It featured a video shout

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00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: out from both Joe Buck Yes the legendary broadcaster, and

903
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Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald. And it was all an honor of Mark

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Speaker 1: Allmeyer forty one years as the Cardinals equipment guru. And

905
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: I mean, think about some of his service and what

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00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: he did for the Arizona Cardinals effect. Here's the stat

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00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 1: over five different decades, Wolf, Mark Allmyer worked eight hundred

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00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: twenty three total games and it more than thirty six

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00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: hundred Cardinals player including yourself, incredible, Polly. He'll be ever,

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Speaker 1: he'll forever, I should say, be known as Markson. All right, Markson,

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00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: of course, I mean that's what I learned his name

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Speaker 1: to be, Markson when I showed up in nineteen eighty

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Speaker 1: five and he was working for Bill Simmons, also known

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Speaker 1: as Skinhead. There he was, and forty one years later, Man,

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Speaker 1: congratulations to Marks in the NFL Equipment Manager of the

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Speaker 1: Year in two thousand and eight. In two thousand and fourteen,

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Speaker 1: We love your brother. Yeah yeah, he's the Saint Louis guy.

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Speaker 1: Came with the Cardinals from Saint Louis. They even flew

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Speaker 1: in Emo's Pizza from Saint Louis. Today, Wolf, I mean

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Speaker 1: three words outstanding. I was great. I mean people couldn't

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Speaker 1: get enough of the Emo's Pizza special. Thanks as always,

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Speaker 1: Drew Grigson, the Director of Player Personnel, Jim I'm a Hundre,

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