1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:01,200 Speaker 1: Taking a Walk. 2 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 2: When we started this, we never thought we were going 3 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 2: to be traveling the world ever, you know, we you know, 4 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 2: we knew we wanted to get in a van and 5 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 2: just try to go places and you know, play for 6 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 2: different people in different parts of the country. But we 7 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 2: never thought it would become what it became. For ten years, 8 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 2: it was driving in a van and well, first it 9 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 2: was Dexter's pickup truck. I'm going across Gutry in his 10 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: pickup truck. 11 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of the Taking a Walk podcast 12 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: with your host, Buzz Night. Buzz speaks with musicians about 13 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: their music, their passion, and their latest work. Today, Buzz 14 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: is joined by Kevin Wasserman, better known as Noodles, the 15 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: guitarist of the iconic punk rock band The Offspring. Noodles 16 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 1: has been a driving force behind The Offspring's energetic sound 17 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: for over three decades, helping shape the landscape of punk 18 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: rock and alternative music. From their breakout success with Smash 19 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety four to their continued relevance in the 20 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: music scene with new music super Charged, Noodles has been 21 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: there every step of the way. Here's Buzznight with Noodles 22 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: on Taking. 23 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 3: A Walk, Noodles, it's so great to have you on 24 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 3: the Take Out a Walk podcast. 25 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: Thanks Buzzy, it's good to be here. 26 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 3: So what was the first time you remember noodling on 27 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 3: a guitar? 28 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: Oh? 29 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 2: Gosh, really, when I was probably twelve or so, I 30 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 2: actually took lessons from the sweet old lady in the 31 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: neighborhood who wanted to teach me Flies in the Buttermilk Shoe, 32 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 2: Fly Shoe, and I just couldn't have been more bored 33 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: with that, so I kind of put it away for 34 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 2: a while. There was always guitars laying around both Mike, 35 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 2: we had a cousin who came and lived with us, 36 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: and he was a lefty, but we restrung his guitar 37 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: right handed anyways. And then my dad had a classical 38 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: guitar always laying around, and so I just always kind 39 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: of pick it up. But it wasn't until I was 40 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: really about eighteen when I really started learning how to 41 00:01:58,200 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: play guitar properly. 42 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 3: Would you ever consider a punk version of Flies in 43 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 3: the Buttermilk Shoe. 44 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 2: Fight you, Oh God, let's talk. Let's talk to me first. 45 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 2: In the gimmy gimmeys see what they see? How they 46 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 2: could put that together. 47 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 3: So what were the other influences at that time? It 48 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 3: was like Hendrix I'm sure was a big deal growing up, 49 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 3: and a lot like really. 50 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: You want to know, what really got me to want 51 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 2: to play guitar was the theme song to mash Suicide 52 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: Is Painless. I just thought it was so beautiful. In fact, 53 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 2: I in fifth grade I learned how to play the 54 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 2: flute because of that song. I wanted, you know, the 55 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 2: flute and the guitar thing. And then the flute seemed 56 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 2: a little, i don't know, a little too uh, I 57 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know what's the right word for it. 58 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 2: A little too wimpy, I guess. So then in sixth 59 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 2: grade I switched to the trumpet. And my dad was 60 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 2: a big trumpet player. He loved the trumpet, and so 61 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 2: I think I was trying to, you know, emulate my 62 00:02:59,000 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 2: dad a little bit. 63 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 3: You were trying to find your way a little bit, 64 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 3: right exactly. Yeah, Yeah, And we're still trying to find 65 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 3: our way absolutely. 66 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,839 Speaker 2: You know, you never you're never too old to try to, yeah, 67 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: to try new things and try to learn new things. 68 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 3: So the band's been around for nearly forty years. What 69 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 3: is the secret to this amazing longevity of the band. 70 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 2: I mean, you gotta love doing it. I love playing music, 71 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: you know, from the very obsessive, compulsive part of you know, 72 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: being in the studio trying to come up with new 73 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 2: music that it sounds good something you like, you know, 74 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: from nothing to just rehearsals and you know, going over 75 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: the same stuff over and over again, and then getting 76 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: out and you know, finally playing you know, songs for 77 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: an audience and connecting with them. I mean, it's just 78 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: it's it's what I love to do, absolutely love it. 79 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 2: And all the guys in the band right now feel 80 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 2: the same way. It's it's we're having a lot of 81 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: fun doing what we do. 82 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 3: Congratulations on super Charge. We'll talk about that in a 83 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 3: little bit. That's really astounding and really great music as well. 84 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: For sure. 85 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 3: First concert experience that you ever can remember. 86 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, yeah, early days. I remember going and seeing 87 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 2: just punk bands in backyards really, you know, and bands 88 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: that would play in my high school quad and I 89 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 2: just thought, man, these guys are just doing it. They 90 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: figured out how to play instruments and get together with 91 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: people and play music. I just always thought, even like 92 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 2: some of the crappiest bands. I always thought there's something 93 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 2: really special about getting together with you know, three or 94 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: four other people and making music together and just vibing 95 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 2: with each other. I've always I've always dug that first 96 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 2: big concert might have been Rush and thirty eight special 97 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: at the Forum here. 98 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: In LA And I mean it was a positive experience, obviously, Yes, yeah. 99 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I dug it. You know it was, Uh, it was. 100 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 2: I always preferred smaller venues, you know, and and clubs, 101 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: going to see Gosh, the Dickies at Ichabod's in Fullerton, 102 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: you know, stuff like that. I guess the Ramones at 103 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 2: the Pladium were that was kind of kind of a big, 104 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 2: big show, you know, compared to some of the some 105 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: of the smaller clubs. 106 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 3: So your guitar playing is so core to the band. 107 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 3: Has it evolved in certain ways over time? 108 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: Do you think? Uh? I suppose. I I like to 109 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 2: think I've gotten better and more consistent in my playing. 110 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 2: I'm less sloppy over time, but I still have sloppy days, 111 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: you know. And uh, you know, I kind of I 112 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 2: kind of joke about I'm I'm the guy who comes 113 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 2: in and puts the tattered edge on everything in the studio. 114 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 2: I think there's some truth to that, but I'm there's 115 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: also some energy to my playing that just adds something 116 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 2: rather than takes away from from a recording. 117 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 3: I'm glad you talk about imperfection because I think it 118 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 3: is part of the beauty of the sound. Really, I 119 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 3: think and do you feel at times today, especially with 120 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 3: technology and everything, that there's sometimes too much perfection? 121 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 2: Well, I think that was what got me into punk rock. 122 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: You know, there was a lot of really just overproduced, 123 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: big arena rock bands where everything was you know, had 124 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 2: to be perfect, and punk rock was kind of the 125 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,679 Speaker 2: antithesis of that. You could, if you had three chords 126 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 2: and you know, something to scream about, you can you 127 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 2: can make songs and make music. 128 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 3: Now, were you somebody with your guitar where you would 129 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: you know, fool around and reverse engineers certain things maybe 130 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 3: that you wanted to get out of a guitar. Would 131 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 3: you sort of you know, tech around with things. 132 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 2: A little bit, you know, experiment with different you know, 133 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 2: different types of effect boxes and stuff. You know, when 134 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: I was first learning, you know, everything was analog. You 135 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 2: didn't have all the digital tools that you have today, 136 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: you know, So yeah, I mean you know, gosh, what 137 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: was the like the memory man? Uh, you know, effects 138 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: boxes were so weird, you know, and you can get 139 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 2: some really weird sounds out of those and the different 140 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: delays and stuff where there was a lot of fun 141 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 2: messing around with that stuff and trying to figure it out. 142 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 2: And then also yeah, like you know, trying to make 143 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: a citar by putting you know, a piece of like 144 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: metal coat hanger over the edge so that it it 145 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 2: buzzes right next to the bridge, you know, trying to 146 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 2: make a gitar sound like that, you know, different things 147 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 2: like that, try to make it sound like bells by 148 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 2: how you how you pick it differently, you know, I know, 149 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: and listening to you know, other people talking about how 150 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: they made music. I know, the Stones talked about you know, 151 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: Street Fighting Man was an acoustic guitar that they taped 152 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 2: onto a little I think a little tape recorder and 153 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: then played it back into the microphone and it just distorted. 154 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: And that's how they got that sound for Street Fighting Man. 155 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: You know, So you kind of you listen to what 156 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 2: other people are doing and then experiment, you know, with 157 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 2: your own your own equipment. 158 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 3: And I see you got some guitars behind you there. 159 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 3: What are some of your your favorites. I'm sure they're 160 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 3: all favorites, but are there some particular ones that you 161 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: can highlight? 162 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? Right here, Well, there's my signature model, the kind 163 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 2: of Start or Sunburst Talman. That's my latest signature model, 164 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 2: and I love the Talments. They just they play great. 165 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 2: They have kind of like a sixties vintage feel to them. 166 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 2: They're lightweight, which is great if you're jumping up and 167 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 2: down on stage for an hour and a half. It's 168 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 2: nice to have something that's not too heavy. I never 169 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 2: could handle the especially jumping up and down handling of 170 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 2: Les Paul is a little heavy. But I love them. 171 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 2: In the studio, I love you know, a lot of guitars, 172 00:08:58,280 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: I guess I don't know if you can see the 173 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 2: class but one that's my dad's classical guitar. I have 174 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: a Sunburse Telly and that's a reissue of the very 175 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 2: one of the very first guitars I ever bought was 176 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 2: a Telly and I used to play that in the 177 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 2: early days and eventually realized that the feedback from that 178 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 2: that bridge pickup was just a little too much. It 179 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 2: was it wasn't I mean, it was like screaming microphonic feedback, 180 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 2: you know, and it would be a little bit, a 181 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 2: little bit too much. So then I got a humbucker 182 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 2: and and made it a little bit less noise. I 183 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 2: think my first humbucking guitar was a Gibson Sonics like 184 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 2: a and then I had a I couldn't afford a 185 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 2: full on less Paul, so I got an epiphone less 186 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 2: Paul and and made that work and sounded great. And 187 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 2: that was probably around the ignition era I started using 188 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: that stuff. 189 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 3: You mentioned your pop, who I know you've you've lost 190 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 3: fairly recently. I know he meant the world to you. 191 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 3: Can you talk about your dad and the great infl 192 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 3: he had on you. 193 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's still a little a little raw, but yeah, sure. 194 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 2: You know, my dad always encouraged me to to to 195 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 2: play music, well you know, just not as loudly sometimes, 196 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 2: you know, and as and he hated he hated punk rock. 197 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 2: Like I remember him yelling at me, there's no such 198 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 2: thing as a holiday in Cambodia, and I'm like, you know, Dad, 199 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 2: you might be getting it, you might be getting it now, 200 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 2: and uh, but he always encouraged me to play, you know, 201 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,719 Speaker 2: and and was always proud of just by meagerest accomplishments. 202 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 2: He didn't I didn't need to sell a million records, 203 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 2: you know, for you know, to earn his appreciation, and 204 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: and uh, you know, he just he was always there, 205 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 2: so yeah, that you know it was. And he was 206 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 2: always playing music from Simon and Garfunkel with the harmonies 207 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 2: and and uh across me stills A Nash Creden's clear 208 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 2: Water for the Swampy Rocks. I loved Credence. And then 209 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 2: you know classical stuff Christopher Parkning, you know on guitar, 210 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 2: a classical guitar. Eighteen twelve overture would always play like 211 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 2: in the morning that I think he would do that 212 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 2: when I was a teenager and in my twenties and 213 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 2: I'd be sleeping it, sleeping in he would blare eighteen 214 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 2: twelve overture to try to get me out. But fortunately 215 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 2: I really liked that music a lot. 216 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 3: And I imagine he had a sense of humor well 217 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 3: that you might have obtained from him. 218 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 2: But also listen to Steve Martin records and Cheech and 219 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 2: Shawn records. You know, I still have all those I 220 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 2: still have all those records. Yeah, very fond memories and. 221 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 3: As life comes full circle, you've recently become a grandfather. 222 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 2: Congratulations, thank you, thank you. Yeah, I'm just so excited, 223 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 2: so excited, and people to call me grandpa like it 224 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 2: it's an insult, but oh, hell no, it's a badge 225 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 2: of honor. I love it. 226 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 3: Boy or girl, A little girl, Emily, congratulations. I bet 227 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 3: it's full of so much energy that well yet. 228 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 2: But yeah, she's very inquisitive. She's strong, you know, you know, 229 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 2: but I know, like you know, as soon as she 230 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 2: starts walking, she's gonna run, I'm sure. But she's her eyes. 231 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 2: She's very inquisitive, very you know, she focuses on things, 232 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 2: and yeah, I can't wait to I can't wait to 233 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 2: see her again. 234 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 3: And I wonder what the conversation is going to be 235 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 3: like when you explain to her what you do for 236 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 3: a living. 237 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure she'll grow up just kind of being 238 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: used to it. You know, isn't everybody's grandpa do something similar, 239 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 2: you know, when it's your grandpa. I know, with my kids, 240 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 2: what I was doing wasn't cool, you know, really, I 241 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 2: think they appreciate it more now than they did, you know, 242 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 2: coming out, it was just kind of what you know 243 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 2: what dad did. I know my daughter, the one who 244 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 2: just had the baby, she didn't really think much of 245 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 2: my band until weird Al covered pretty Fly for a well, 246 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 2: Pretty Fly for a Rabbi. My daughter saw that. It 247 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 2: was like, Dad, weird Al covered one of your songs. 248 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 2: You're you're like in a real band, thank you? Yeah, 249 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 2: that is funny. Yeah. And my son, you know, had 250 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 2: kind of a you know, I think he appreciated what 251 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 2: I do a little bit more because he was a 252 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 2: big fan of He got into punk rock with a 253 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 2: through a friend of his. Really, then he started to realize, 254 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 2: I know these guys, like I know the guys in 255 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 2: Tis so well, I know Dave Dictor from m DC, 256 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 2: you know some of the some of the bands he 257 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 2: loved the most. So it was kind of it was 258 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 2: kind of cool. So what for you? 259 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 3: Were the or are still the the quintessential punk albums 260 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 3: of all time? 261 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 2: Well, the first two records that I ever heard. It 262 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 2: got me into punk rock. Where the Dickies white vinyl EP. 263 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 2: I think it was a promotional thing, and then never 264 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 2: mind the bullets the sex pistols, and I was like, 265 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 2: and they're both different. The Dicky's definitely had a sense 266 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 2: of humor, but also that raw energy and power, you know, 267 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 2: and in your face, you know, punk rock music. And 268 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 2: then you know, the Sex Pistols had a sort of 269 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 2: a dry, witty sense of humor and just tons of 270 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 2: just guts and viscera, you know, and they're playing and 271 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 2: I just love that. And that was the first time 272 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 2: I heard that. I was like, what is this? You know, 273 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 2: Like I said, I grew up with my dad's music 274 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 2: a little bit more polished and pretty. You know, I 275 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 2: still still love that stuff, but this was just all 276 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 2: leaving on the floor, you know, bloodied and battered and bruised, 277 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 2: and and I love that about about punk rock music. 278 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: Some of the some of the records of Ramon's first 279 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 2: record stayed on my turntable for a month. Tsol's Dance 280 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 2: with Me. So the TSL is a local Huntington Beach band, 281 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 2: Huntington Long Beach band, and h if if it wasn't 282 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 2: for TSOL, I don't think there would be any offspring. 283 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 2: That was the band that tied us together the most. 284 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 2: We all we all love that band. 285 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 3: So described the first encounter with with Dexter. 286 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, I always kind of known who 287 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 2: he was. We grew up in the same neighborhood. I 288 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 2: was actually in boy Scouts with his older brother. We 289 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 2: were in the same uh uh it was true pack 290 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 2: and was the it was the unit called I can't 291 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: remember that. Yeah, we were in the same little group, 292 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 2: you know, within the bigger troop and uh and so 293 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 2: I just kind of always knew of the Hollands. Our 294 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 2: mothers did uh children's theater together when we were really young. 295 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 2: So I just kind of always knew him, and then 296 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 2: I met him. I was playing drums with our original drummer, 297 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 2: James Lilia, who's now a oncological surgeon up in the 298 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 2: in the Santa Santa Cruz area, and Uh I was 299 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 2: playing in a band with James and and uh Dexter 300 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 2: satting with that band. It was called Clowns of Death. 301 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 2: We stole the name from that was oingele Boingo's undercover 302 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 2: band name. They would do shows built as the Clowns 303 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 2: of Death, Like when they would have a big show 304 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 2: like US Festival or cal Jam or whatever it was, 305 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 2: they would be on that stage and they would play 306 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 2: as Clowns of Death, you know, just in a small 307 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 2: club as a warm up gig. So we sold a name. 308 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 2: I was playing with James and the Dexter sat in 309 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 2: and I was like, oh cool, you know this I 310 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 2: always knew him was like the you know, straight a 311 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 2: stude and you know, brilliant guy. It didn't knowing what 312 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 2: I know about punk rock, it didn't surprise me he 313 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 2: got into punk rock. But you know, so we kind 314 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 2: of connected over that, and then he stole James from 315 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 2: my band and then eventually asked me to join what 316 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 2: was then Manni Subsidal and then would eventually become the 317 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 2: Offspring shortly after. 318 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 3: Would you ever have imagined that he'd be flying you 319 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 3: guys back and forth to gigs and stuff like that. 320 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 2: No way, yeah, no way. I'm not surprised. You know 321 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: that he got his pilot's license and stuff. You know, 322 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 2: I mean, he's an overachiever. He really, He's got to 323 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: be doing something at all times. I'm kind of the opposite. 324 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 2: I like doing nothing and just getting lost and whatever 325 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 2: I'm doing, he puts his he he sees something, he 326 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 2: sees a goal, and he aims for it and he 327 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 2: gets it done. He does not like leaving things unfinished. 328 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 2: That's why he went back and got his PhD recently. 329 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 2: You know, he couldn't leave that unfinished. I really do 330 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 2: admire that about him. He's one of the smartest people 331 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 2: I know. But when we started this, we never thought 332 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 2: we were going to be traveling the world ever. You know, 333 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 2: we we you know, we knew we wanted to get 334 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 2: in a van and just try to go places and 335 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 2: you know, play for different people in different parts of 336 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 2: the country, but we never thought it would become what 337 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 2: it became. For ten years, it was driving in a 338 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 2: van and well first it was his Dexter's pickup truck, 339 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 2: going across country in his pickup truck, you know. And 340 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 2: then after ten years come out and play came out 341 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 2: as our third record, Smash, and then it things just 342 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 2: went from there. 343 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 3: Well you were saying, how you know, he's always got 344 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 3: to be overachieving and stuff like that, and and that's 345 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 3: how he balances his life. But you find balance in 346 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 3: interesting places. From the joy of fishing. 347 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 2: I love fishing, I always always have. Yeah, it's very 348 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 2: you know, it kind of takes me out of the 349 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 2: out of the world. I'm focusing on something's really pretty simple, 350 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 2: you know, if you know what you're doing, it's it's 351 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,959 Speaker 2: really pretty simple. It's takes a lot of patience, but 352 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 2: that I don't know, that's that kind of focus for 353 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 2: somebody with ADHD. It's surprising that I have the patience 354 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 2: to do that the way I do. But I do 355 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 2: love it. Yeah, Plus, it puts you in beautiful parts 356 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 2: of the world. Being out on a on a you know, 357 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 2: a boat in the middle of the ocean, or you know, 358 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 2: being on a lake, or hiking along a stream in 359 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 2: the in the mountains. I love. I love getting out 360 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 2: into the you know, into the wilderness and forests or 361 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 2: desert or you know, open ocean. I love all that. 362 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 3: Well, the other wonderful juxtaposition and about you is your 363 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 3: bird watching. 364 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 2: I started doing that. Yeah, you know, I moved down 365 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 2: to h we moved down well here where we live 366 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 2: is is you know, by the beach, and I could 367 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 2: see the ocean, and I see these birds out there. 368 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 2: I'm going, what is that? What is that? You know? 369 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 2: I've seen all these different different birds and and I 370 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 2: started just kind of trying to figure out what they were, 371 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 2: looking at them, all the shore birds. There's some wetlands 372 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 2: nearby where all go hiking, and and you know, some 373 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 2: really interesting birds. I decided, let's let's try to figure 374 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 2: out what those are. I'm a complete amateur. I'm not 375 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 2: very good at it at all, but I'm starting to 376 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 2: recognize some of my local birds, and I have a 377 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 2: bird app for when I travel. You know, we were 378 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 2: just in Iceland recently and I'm trying to figure out 379 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 2: what kind of birds where. They're just out on a 380 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 2: vacation with my with my wife and son. 381 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 3: Did you see anything odd there? 382 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 2: Bird was not really, you know, mostly just different kinds 383 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 2: of seagulls. Really, it's all yeah, you know, yeah, what. 384 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 3: A beautiful country. 385 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 2: Huh, thank god, it really is. It's really unique. You know, 386 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 2: it's such a new geographical country. There's not a whole 387 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 2: lot like, there's not a whole lot of mammals. I 388 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 2: think the Arctic fox is really the only the only 389 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 2: native mammal there. You know. It's mostly all about sheep, 390 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 2: which were introduced, you know, sheep, and then they have 391 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 2: their own breed of horses also introduced, but they've become 392 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 2: their own breed of horse. People love the Icelandic horses 393 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 2: for some reason. 394 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 3: One minute you think you're on Mars and the next 395 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 3: minute you're in a completely different terrain that looks like 396 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 3: it's almost out out west in New Mexico or something, right, 397 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 3: because some of it's in some. 398 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 2: Of the volcanic hills kind of remind you if the 399 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 2: green Ones remind you of Hawaii even, you know, because 400 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 2: it's very volcanic like Hawaii, so geographically it's it looks 401 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 2: like that, only much much colder. 402 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more of the Taking a 403 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 1: Walk Podcast. Welcome back to the Taking a Walk Podcast. 404 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 3: You know you've mentioned and you love how you see fans, 405 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 3: you know, bringing their kids to shows and how the 406 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 3: band has you know, passed on to other generations. Just 407 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 3: talk about the feeling you get when you look out 408 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 3: and you see that in the audience. 409 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's super cool. You know, we and we do. 410 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 2: You know, we run into a lot of fans at 411 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 2: meeting greets or you know whatever. Sometimes I'll run into 412 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 2: them just at the local supermarket and it'll be both 413 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 2: the parents and the kids who are fans. Now, I know, 414 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 2: when Smash first came out, most fans would go, dude, 415 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 2: my mom hates you. I remember fans telling me that 416 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 2: I probably for songs like Bad Habit more than anything, 417 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 2: you know, and now you see, you know, the parents 418 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 2: and kids both vibing out to our music. And I 419 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 2: think it's just a great feeling. It's it's super cool. 420 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 2: And I know how that is because, like I said earlier, 421 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 2: when when my son got into punk rock, he and 422 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 2: I were able to share that and could go to shows. 423 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 2: Now he's you know, he's twenty two, and he's all 424 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 2: into still go to some shows together, but he's more 425 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 2: into his own own thing and and uh. But but 426 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 2: that time we had and you know, able to bond 427 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 2: over that was super special. And so so I get 428 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 2: that and I love being able to be part of 429 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 2: that for other people. 430 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 3: You recalled the worst gig that you ever played, and 431 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 3: why was it the worst gig? 432 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, we were, we were. Uh. Fortunately we had two 433 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 2: gigs that night and we were able to redeem ourselves. 434 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 2: The first one was we got uh, we got paid 435 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 2: pretty for us back then, pretty good money to play 436 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 2: this co op in Berkeley where a friend of ours 437 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 2: was going to school and he lived in this co 438 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 2: op and we played the dinner the dinner hour. I guess, 439 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 2: so all these you know, young college students are coming through, 440 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 2: clanking their plates and silverware and and getting food and 441 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 2: then sitting down and we're in the corner of this 442 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 2: cafeteria at this co op, trying to shred and play 443 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 2: and you know, all this loud punk rock stuff and 444 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 2: we still were weren't even as loud as the clinking 445 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 2: plates and silverware, and people are just sitting there looking 446 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 2: at us, eating their food. It was the most uncomfortable, 447 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 2: weirdest show we ever played. And unfortunately, right after that 448 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 2: we got to go play. I think it was Gilman Street. 449 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 2: It might have been a backyard party, I'm not sure. 450 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 2: It's around the same time. I think it was Gilman 451 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 2: Street and had a great show. Gilman Street was always fun. 452 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 3: Playing at Woodstock, though, was fairly nasty, wasn't it. 453 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was. I mean it was really an 454 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 2: inhospitable grounds to having any kind of concert, just no 455 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 2: and mother nature took a real dump on us with 456 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 2: the heat. You know, it was unusually warm and unusually hot. 457 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 2: Eight dollars bottles of water and we could just feel that. 458 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 2: We played on the first day and you could kind 459 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 2: of feel the tension building even then. You know, we 460 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 2: knew that this could go and get really ugly really quickly. 461 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 3: What was that gag? The trash gag? That you guys 462 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:57,959 Speaker 3: would do. 463 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, we we did that. I think the 464 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 2: first first time we did it was at a local 465 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 2: amphitheater we played it might have been the Weenie Roast 466 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 2: or somebody was like one of the first times we 467 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 2: played there, and Dexter says, you know, it's getting pretty 468 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 2: messy out there. Why don't you guys take all that 469 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 2: trash around you and throw it up here and we'll 470 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 2: take care of it for you. You know. It's like right 471 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 2: before the encore. So they started, you know, throwing this, 472 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 2: and I thought, this is really funny. And then I 473 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 2: realized both my parents are out in the audience. Dexter's 474 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 2: moms out in the audience. My daughter, who I think 475 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 2: was six years old at the time, was out in 476 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 2: the audience. But nobody got hurt. It was funny. It 477 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: was a funny gag, and we got away with it, 478 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 2: and I think we did it, I don't know, three 479 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 2: or four more times. But then in Chicago it got 480 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 2: real ugly and people started picking up full on trash 481 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,719 Speaker 2: cans and throwing them at each other, and somebody got 482 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 2: hurt by hitting somebody threw a trash can on him, 483 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 2: and so we had to stop doing that that gag. 484 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 2: I think we might have upset the Chili Peppers too 485 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 2: one night, because we did it right before they were 486 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 2: on after us, and their crew wasn't wasn't too happy. 487 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 2: So we went and we apologized. You know, we certainly 488 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 2: didn't mean to cause them any any trouble. We're fans 489 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 2: of the Peppers. Oops right, yeah, yeah, are bad. They 490 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 2: were they were what they were gracious about it. 491 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 3: You know, what do you think the state of the 492 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 3: punk scene is now? 493 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 2: You know, there's still look, gosh, I think it's stronger 494 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 2: than it ever has been. I mean last year we 495 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 2: played though when we were young festival, I know, they 496 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 2: just had it again and we're slated to play it 497 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 2: again next year. So that's that's more like nineties and 498 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 2: early two thousands, you know punk bands and emo bands 499 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 2: and all the you know the Warp Tour kind of 500 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 2: you know era punk bands. But if you go to clubs, 501 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 2: there's still young punk bands that sound like bands we 502 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 2: were playing with thirty five forty years ago, and it's 503 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 2: it's really varied. My son plays in a band and 504 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 2: they're called the Grin, and I go see their shows 505 00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 2: and I see a lot of bands that they're playing 506 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 2: with that sound like bands we played with thirty forty 507 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 2: years ago. It's kind of cool. You know, they'll add 508 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 2: you know, new elements and different elements. You hear a 509 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 2: lot more kind of hip hop and I guess chechno 510 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 2: you know, infused you know, elements to the to the 511 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 2: punk music. But it's still it's still happening. I think 512 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 2: it's I think it's rad. 513 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 3: Are you familiar with the recent kurffluffle that occurred with 514 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 3: Green Day where they were talking about Las Vegas in 515 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 3: a disparaging way? Did you did you pick up on 516 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 3: this story at all? 517 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 2: No, I'm not familiar with it. 518 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 3: I think what the the essence of it was. You know, 519 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 3: they were out in you know, San Francisco Bay area 520 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 3: and they were talking about the departure of certain sports 521 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 3: teams ultimately you know, moving to Vegas, and they weren't 522 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 3: too they weren't too thrilled with it, nonetheless, and they 523 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 3: you know, said some things about Las Vegas. Right, and 524 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 3: then all of a sudden you have a couple of 525 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 3: radio stations thinking it would be a cool stunt to 526 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 3: ban Green Day, you know, because of their comments. Right, 527 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 3: I heard about this, and I'm thinking, wait, isn't that 528 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 3: the essence of punk? 529 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? Right, I know, yeah, totally. Yeah, I'm trying to 530 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 2: cancel Green Day. That might work for a minute, but 531 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 2: I don't think that's gonna I don't think that's gonna 532 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 2: last too long. It's not gonna work. 533 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 3: Right, So let's talk about super Charged. Talk about, first 534 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 3: of all, the creative process, how this all came together, 535 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 3: how you know, much fun it was putting it together, 536 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 3: and maybe highlight a couple of your favorite tracks off 537 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 3: of it. 538 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, we you know, we well, gosh, we 539 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 2: just came out of the pandemic and uh, you know 540 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 2: the pandemic. We learned a lot during the pandemic. We 541 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 2: we learned that we really miss playing live shows when 542 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 2: it's taken away from us. We missed it so much 543 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 2: that we went in the studio and actually rehearsed. We 544 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 2: went back and looked at every song that we played, 545 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 2: and even songs that we don't play that often, and 546 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 2: tried to make sure we were all playing them together 547 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 2: in time, because over thirty years, you'll develop bad habits 548 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 2: and you won't even realize, you know, where you're just 549 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 2: kind of coming in a little bit late on this 550 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 2: one part where you're strumming is like, you know, me 551 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 2: and Dexter won't be strumming the exact same thing, and 552 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 2: it gets a little sloppy there. And so we went 553 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 2: over all of that mostly with me, Todd and Jonah 554 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 2: in the studio. Pete wasn't wasn't really well the time 555 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 2: he lived out of town and it was before Brandon joined, 556 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 2: So it'd be me, Todd and Jonah in there just 557 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 2: making sure everything's locked in, especially the guitar parts. You know, 558 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 2: there's certain things where you want it sloppy. Not sloppy, 559 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 2: but it can be a little bit looser. That adds 560 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 2: to the energy. But if you know, there's a lot 561 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 2: of times too where if you're not together on a 562 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 2: really heavy, you know, rhythmic part art, it takes away 563 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 2: from the energy. It really does kind of it kind 564 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 2: of muddle muddies it all up. So we just kind 565 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 2: of spent a lot of time going over all that 566 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 2: and had a really fun time doing it. We'd go 567 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 2: into the studio and work on a few songs, working 568 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 2: on our backing vocals too, making sure somebody's covering each harmony. 569 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 2: It was a lot of fun. Gosh, I went way 570 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 2: back into this, didn't I so good? No, it's good. Yeah, 571 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 2: And we you know, we released Let the Bad Times Role. 572 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 2: Was pretty much done at that point and uh, and 573 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,719 Speaker 2: we didn't get to tour on it until things started 574 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 2: opening up. And then we went back out you know, 575 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 2: on tour. We had Josh Freeze on drums at that 576 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 2: point and uh, and just started kicking ass. I mean, 577 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 2: it just really felt really good. We we had really 578 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 2: done our homework and got everything tightened up. Josh added 579 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 2: a lot and uh, and then you know, we wanted 580 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 2: to keep this going that we when we did Let 581 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 2: the Bad Times Role, it was nine years in between records, 582 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 2: and we didn't want that time to go buy. But 583 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 2: also right before that, like the last year of making 584 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 2: that record, last year and a half two years was 585 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: really a creative time for us. Most of the songs 586 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 2: on Let the Bad Times Role happened within that two 587 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 2: year period, you know, And so then we just kind 588 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 2: of felt that once we finished touring, well, even while 589 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 2: we were touring on Let the Bad Times Role, we 590 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 2: started going in the studio. The way we do it 591 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 2: now is we'll go into the studio for like two 592 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 2: weeks at a time and Bob will fly out. He 593 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 2: usually he lives in Hawaii. He also spends a lot 594 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 2: of time in Vancouver, so either he would fly out here, 595 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: we'd fly to Hawaii or Vancouver and meet up for 596 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 2: a week to two weeks and we just work on, 597 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,239 Speaker 2: you know, various songs and you try to get a 598 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 2: song close to being done in that time. You know, 599 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 2: a lot of times if things are tough and it's 600 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 2: going slow, you'll shelve it and then go on to 601 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 2: something else, you know, and see how that works, and 602 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,719 Speaker 2: then you know kind of bounce around. But within like 603 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 2: two years of working or you know, whatever it took, 604 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 2: we were we knew we were done. And then the 605 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 2: record said, well, if you finish it by April of 606 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 2: this year, we could have it out. And we're like, 607 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 2: we can do that. And so I think we had 608 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 2: to come up with like the last two songs. Really 609 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 2: everything else was pretty much done and it just really 610 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 2: kind of kind of came together and fell into pieces. 611 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 2: Working with Bob's great Bob Rock our producers is just phenomenal. 612 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,959 Speaker 2: He's like he's like an older brother. He's like a friend, 613 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 2: a mentor. You know, we just have a really great relationship. 614 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 2: We love his ideas, his his you know, feelings and 615 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 2: beliefs about music and what makes good music, you know, 616 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 2: really resonate with us. And I mean we have a 617 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 2: good time. 618 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 3: I think this is amazing and so cool. That make 619 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 3: it all? 620 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 2: Right? 621 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 3: Hit number one both on the Alt Airplay and the 622 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 3: Active Rock Airplay charts. That's that's freaking cool as hell. 623 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 2: I think that's the first for us. I don't think 624 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 2: we've ever had an number one on both those charts 625 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 2: at the same time. So yeah, that is that is 626 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 2: really cool. I mean, it's a different world now than 627 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 2: than it was, you know, than it has been in 628 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 2: the past, but still I'll take it. 629 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 3: Well, but I have to say, as somebody who throughout 630 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 3: my career, uh you know, helped manage some some mainstream 631 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 3: rock stations, I mean you guys were kind of saviors 632 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 3: for that format as well. I mean I have to 633 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 3: thank you for that, because with the stations that I 634 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 3: was part of, like w r I F and Detroit 635 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 3: or w MMR and Philadelphia. You know, you guys were 636 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 3: like a lifeblood for us. 637 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 2: Well, well, thank you. I don't know if I can 638 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 2: you know, take on that, but but you know, thank you. 639 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 2: You know, we've always well, i mean grew up listening 640 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 2: to radio. It's it means a lot to us. We 641 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 2: still visit. We just hung out with Pierre at MMR 642 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 2: a couple of months, a month and a half ago, 643 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 2: you know, the the MMR vecue. Yeah, yeah, so you know, 644 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 2: thank you for that. That's very kind, kind words and 645 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 2: I appreciate that. 646 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 3: And then congratulations on the Spotify Billions club as well. 647 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 2: My god, that's so thank you. 648 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 649 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's kind of hard to wrap your 650 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 2: head around, Matt, you know, a billion a billion listens. 651 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 2: You know, I think only we only need to hit 652 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 2: like seven billion more people and we've hit the whole world, 653 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 2: right something like that. Yeah, I think kids aren't all right? 654 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 2: Is hot on its heels. I think at the end 655 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 2: of the year that one should hit a billion. 656 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 3: And I want to talk about these amazing events that 657 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 3: occurred where you guys were playing and were joined by 658 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 3: some some special some special guests. 659 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 2: Amazing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 660 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 3: So let's first talk about the Ed Sheer and experience. 661 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 2: What was that like? Yeah? Amazing. You know, he is 662 00:33:54,960 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 2: just such a natural you know at it or seems 663 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 2: to be such a natural ad. I know he puts 664 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 2: a lot of work into what he does, but he's 665 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 2: just phenomenal. I really like some of his singer songwriter stuff, 666 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 2: songs like the Boat or the Castle on the Hill. 667 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 2: You know, I really do like some of that stuff. 668 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 2: When I saw that we were playing with him, I 669 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 2: sent off an email and said, let's reach out. Let's 670 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 2: see if he wants to sit in with us, you know, 671 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 2: million in one shot. Thinking. You know, I knew that 672 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 2: he was a fan early on that the first record 673 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 2: he ever bought was Conspiracy of One his aunt gave him. 674 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 2: He told us the story when we met. His aunt 675 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,959 Speaker 2: gave him ten pounds for Christmas or his birthday or something, 676 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 2: and he went out and bought Conspiracy of One. It 677 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 2: was his first record. And he used to to pretend 678 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 2: to sing and play million Miles Away in front of 679 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 2: the mirror. And so he came out and did that 680 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 2: song with us and hit it out of the park. 681 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 2: He sent me a demo of him singing, just playing 682 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 2: acoustic guitar and singing. He tuned it down another half 683 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 2: a step and I went, oh, this is going to 684 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 2: be amazing, And he came out. It was phenomenal. It 685 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 2: was just so much funny. It's the nicest guy in 686 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 2: the world too. He really is very down to earth 687 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 2: guy for somebody as successful as he is. 688 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,280 Speaker 3: And then there was the collaboration with with young Blood. 689 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, what was that like? We just had to get 690 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,720 Speaker 2: out of his way. That guy's got so much energy. 691 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 2: He really is dexter joked about. You know, it's the 692 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 2: best hype man you could have. He came out just 693 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 2: getting the crowd going from the get go. He's got 694 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 2: a great voice, great personality, great energy. I mean, you know, 695 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 2: it was really hard to keep up with him. He's 696 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 2: such a ball of fire and also just a really 697 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 2: really nice guy. Had a lot of fun hanging with 698 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 2: him as well. 699 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 3: And then there's the Brian May experience. Tell me about that. 700 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 2: Well, that was the one that just, you know, blew 701 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 2: my mind the most because we've known I mean, I've 702 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,240 Speaker 2: known Brian May for as long as I've known music existed, 703 00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 2: you know, a big Queen fan. You know, even when 704 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 2: I got into punk rock and and kind of stopped 705 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 2: listening to a lot of the more bigger rock bands, 706 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,800 Speaker 2: Queen was still kind of cool because there was something 707 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 2: edgy and punk rock about about Queen. You know, I 708 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 2: don't know, maybe it's just Freddie's style, uh, you know, 709 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 2: Brian's guitar, the drums, and I don't know what it is, 710 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 2: but there was something kind of kind of punk about 711 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 2: some of what they did as well. So yeah, that 712 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 2: was just mind blowing. We uh, we wanted to do. 713 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 2: Dexter knew about this festival that Brian does with a 714 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 2: friend of his, Garrick Israelian, called star MOUs and it's 715 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 2: it's uh, physicists and musicians, you know, and and astronomers, 716 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 2: you know, like stars and music, astronomy and music, and 717 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 2: and we wanted to do it. We just asked. So 718 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 2: we kind of begged to let us play. You know, 719 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 2: they don't have a big music budget. We only go 720 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 2: out and play one concert. You know, it's not very big. 721 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 2: So we begged, and they let us do it. And 722 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 2: then we we it Brian up to play with us. 723 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 2: He or he does. He wanted to come out and 724 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 2: do Gone U Gone Away with us with the the 725 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 2: Slovakian National Symphony. And then and then Dexter said, Brian, 726 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 2: will you do Stone called Crazy with us? And he agreed, 727 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 2: you know, he says he doesn't get to play that 728 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 2: much with with the current you know, uh, carnation of 729 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 2: the incarnation of the band. So so it was just phenomenal. 730 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 2: I mean our minds were literally blown hanging out with 731 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 2: this legend, absolute legend, and and playing with him, you know, 732 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 2: sharing music, sharing, you know, licks back and forth. Just incredible. 733 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 3: What awesome, awesome experience. Is there anybody on a on 734 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,320 Speaker 3: a dream list that you haven't played with that maybe 735 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 3: the next time we you know, who knows. 736 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 2: Gosh, any in the Rolling Stones would be a blast. 737 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 2: There's so many, so many heroes out there, it's hard 738 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 2: to focus on just one or two. 739 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be a good one, that's for sure. 740 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 741 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 3: Well, in closing, what would be in a tremendous surprise 742 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 3: to your fans that is on your playlist of music 743 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 3: that maybe they wouldn't expect that you'd be listening to. 744 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, yeah, I'm trying to you know, there's some 745 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 2: pop stuff that I that I do listen to that 746 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 2: I guess maybe people wouldn't think. I love it here 747 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 2: And you know, I've been listening to you more and 748 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 2: more since since we met and stuff too. I love 749 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 2: Billie Eilish especially like she did a EP of acoustic songs. 750 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 2: Those songs just make me weak. They're so good. I 751 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 2: like Billy Eilish a lot. She's great. There's a band 752 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 2: out of San Diego called Steam Power Giraffe and they 753 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 2: started they would just kind of busk at like a 754 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 2: local theme park down there a park and they're great, 755 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 2: very theatrical, like them a lot stuff like that. I guess, Well, I. 756 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 3: Have to tell you this is one of these moments 757 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 3: where I have to just say how grateful I am 758 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 3: for what I'm doing, because I had the opportunity to 759 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,320 Speaker 3: speak with you today to hear about your work, your life, 760 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 3: and your your passion for it all and your honesty. 761 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 3: And I'm so grateful Noodles that you took the time 762 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 3: to be on Taking a Walk. 763 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 2: Well, well, thank you, it's been you know, it's been 764 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 2: my pleasure. You You really kind of got in good, 765 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 2: deep into some things and I appreciate that this was 766 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 2: a good conversation. 767 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,399 Speaker 3: Thank you for being on, and thank you for all 768 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 3: the music you continue to give us. 769 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 2: Well, thank you for your time, buzz I appreciate it. 770 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to this episode of the Taking a 771 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: Walk Podcast. Share this and other episodes with your friends 772 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: and follow us so you never miss an episode. Taking 773 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 1: a Walk is available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 774 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 1: and wherever you get your podcasts.