1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Kf I am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. Ken 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: is way DeBras here and we've got much to get into. 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: Next hour, we're gonna talked with Blake Trolley about another 5 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: task force. Wow. Cool, those always work out so well. 6 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: Karen Bass and the and other police officials announced a 7 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: task force to stop all these smash and grab robberies. 8 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: A task force. God, why didn't I think of that? 9 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: I could have looked like a hero yesterday. One thing 10 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: that popped out of the La Times story was the 11 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: La County Sheriff Robert Luna says his department is aware 12 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: of one hundred and seventy recent organized retail thefts. One 13 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy recent or it took one hundred and 14 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: seventy of them to organize a task force. So we'll 15 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: get to all that, but first, Steve Gregory and Maui. 16 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: It seems indefinitely covering the aftermath of this horrific fire 17 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: and the death tolls up to at least one hundred 18 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: and eleven and there's still a thousand people missing. 19 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: It could be two thousand. Wow, And that's coming from 20 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: people I've been speaking with working the scene, from rescue squads, 21 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 2: urban search and rescue teams on the ground yesterday had 22 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: a conversation that they were told by federal officials to 23 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: prepare for a possibility of up to two thousand missing 24 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: people presumed dead. But it's really hard to sort of 25 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: pin it down because of how the communications infrastructure has 26 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: been affected here and impacted. So a lot of people had, 27 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: you know, kind of ran up and fled into the 28 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: hillsides and have been staying up there. A lot of 29 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 2: people that may not have had any friends or family here, 30 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: tourists who had no DNA family members to offer DNA 31 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: for the profiles that they're putting together so that they 32 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: can match up the human remains to the familial DNA 33 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 2: that's been put on file. So there's a lot of 34 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: it's a very complicated, very tedious process. The FBI is 35 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 2: on scene now, though we're not being told specifically what 36 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 2: they're doing, but I know that that includes some evidence 37 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: recovery experts, So whether they're assisting with human remains or 38 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: rapid DNA, that's something I'm trying to find out today. 39 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 2: But there was another press conference yesterday and the tenor 40 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 2: of this press conference was interesting. I did not physically go, 41 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: As I told you yesterday, I was not going to go, 42 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: and I'm glad I didn't because it looks as though 43 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 2: the low media are now starting to get a little 44 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: more aggressive, and so without me being there to sort 45 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 2: of taint the well, if you will, I wanted to 46 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: play for you some select bites today of sort of 47 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 2: how people are feeling now and the lack of answers 48 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 2: how things are going overall. So the press secretary, her 49 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 2: name is mcconna McClellan, and she's the governor's press secretary. 50 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: This is how she's been opening all the press conferences. 51 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 3: We are the state of Aloha, so we ask Kinnie 52 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 3: that you please operate under the values of Aloha, which 53 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 3: is extending respect and kindness to each other. Questions and 54 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 3: answers will follow promptly after the speakers conclude their remarks, 55 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 3: without further ado, I would like to invite Governor Josh Screen. 56 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 2: So the Governor comes up and does his statement. But 57 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: this is how she prefaces every press event. 58 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: She tries to enforce an attitude, tries to shame people 59 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: into not being too aggressive with the governor. Sure or 60 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: anybody up there for that fact. 61 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: So when it came time for Q and A, one 62 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: of this speakers yesterday was Herman and Daya. Now he 63 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: is the head of the Maui Emergency Management Agency, and 64 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: a story came out yesterday about him not having any 65 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: field experience, that he's mostly been a pencil pusher, and 66 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 2: that he basically got overwhelmed and may have dropped the 67 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 2: ball on all of this. So there was a lot 68 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 2: of scrutiny on this guy. And the first question from 69 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: CBS came out of the chute, and it had to 70 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: do with the sirens. But the other thing too that 71 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: this mconna does is she'll take the questions, the reporter's 72 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 2: question and then she encapsulates it and distills it down 73 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 2: and then has the person come up. 74 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 4: You made the decision not to sell the sirens, which 75 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,679 Speaker 4: could have saved many lives. Now there are questions about 76 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 4: your lack of experience, and you only took on courses 77 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 4: for disastery leave the field experienced. You bet your decision 78 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,679 Speaker 4: and have you considered handing over the reins to somebody 79 00:04:58,720 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 4: with more experience. 80 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 3: So the question is around sirens as it relates to 81 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 3: the disaster and the question is for Hermann. 82 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 2: Now did you catch what she did there? 83 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: Right? She turned it back to sirens instead of the 84 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: lack of experience that this administrator had. 85 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 2: And he comes up. 86 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 5: So the new story talks about how I didn't have 87 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 5: experience before taking another job. 88 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:19,239 Speaker 1: That's not true. 89 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:20,239 Speaker 2: That's not true. 90 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: So can I stand of the debate? Then huh? 91 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 2: Well it goes on a little bit, and then he 92 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: gets into his experience and talks about what he's done. 93 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 2: And so the reporter comes back, so that's hey, read. 94 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 4: Not sounding the sirens? 95 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 6: I do not, and the reason why. 96 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 4: And so many people said they could have been saved 97 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 4: if they had time to escape and the siren gone off, 98 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 4: they would have known that there was a crisis of 99 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 4: margam and as we know, so many bodies without in 100 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 4: the ground. 101 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 7: Do you want him to give you the answer? 102 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 2: At this point, the mayor comes up, Mayor Bisson comes 103 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 2: up to the lectern. 104 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 7: Want do you want him to give you the answer? 105 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 7: Do you want to then let him finish that? Let 106 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 7: him finish is answer. There's a lot of people, Well 107 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 7: you're talking, You're letting you talk. If you want to talk, 108 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 7: come up here. I'm ready for the answer, then we. 109 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 2: So that's the kind of tenor to start out to shoot. 110 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: You know, the mayor got pretty defensive. So at that 111 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: point then H. Mcconnaugh comes back then. 112 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,559 Speaker 3: To another friendly reminder that we encourage alohne kindness. Again, 113 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 3: we appreciate the questions, but I would encourage all of 114 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 3: us to operate under the values of alohaan kindness. You've 115 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 3: got asking the question. 116 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 1: You've got hundreds of people dead at least, and it's 117 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: clear that this this this crowd didn't know what they 118 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: were doing. They don't want to, they don't want to 119 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: take responsibility. They don't want to even engage the possibility 120 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: that maybe they made the wrong decision. It's just aloha. 121 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: Don't you understand we're under aloha? Here the hell I 122 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: sound like little kids? 123 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,559 Speaker 2: Well, uh, if you want, I can come back. Because 124 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 2: then the governor gets involved with a local reporter, not 125 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: not a mainlander, not an outsider like me. 126 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: But a local reporter. So I got that, all right, 127 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: we'll do that next. Uh, Steve Gregory and MAUI. This 128 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: is how these things happened. We don't know about the 129 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: quality of the employees that have huge responsibility in a 130 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: crisis time. We here in no town, in no city. 131 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: We pay you know, billions and taxes, but we don't 132 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: know if the guy who's gonna is supposed to flick 133 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: on the sirens switch is going to do it. We 134 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: don't know what goes on in his head. We don't 135 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: know how smart he is, how experienced, how educated. We 136 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: don't know anything. We just think it's a government. You know, no, 137 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: listen to them. I don't know what they're doing. This 138 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: could happen again and again and again. 139 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 6: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 140 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 6: A M. Six forty. 141 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: We're on the radio from one until four. I forgot 142 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: to tell you four o'clock, the iHeartRadio app has the 143 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: John and Can on demand podcast, so you could listen 144 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: to what you missed. We continue with Steve Gregory, who's 145 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: been in Malley all week after the horrific fires. And 146 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: the story of the fire damage is one thing, but 147 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: now the second round of stories on how contentious and 148 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: prickly and evasive all the Hawaiian officials have been with reporters 149 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: and how little information we still have is getting quite fascinating. 150 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 1: I just ask you, I know you got more stuff 151 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: to play. Just one question related to that official who 152 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: never hit the siren switch and doesn't regret it because 153 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: they didn't want people, Well, it's a everyone thinks it's 154 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: a tsunami siren, and they didn't want people moving upward, upward, right, 155 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: because that's where the fires were coming from. It didn't 156 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: never occur to all these people to have a fire 157 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: siren and some cis where you could direct people in 158 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: the correct to go in the correct direction. 159 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 2: I don't know that's a short answer. But the other 160 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 2: answer to is of critics have said that a siren 161 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 2: noting an emergency is better than no siren at all, right, 162 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 2: And they could have been supplemented and followed up by 163 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: the wireless texts alert and that's that was the That's 164 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 2: what everyone's complaint was, is like when you usually do 165 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 2: a siren, there's usually a mass text that goes out 166 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 2: that says, hey, evacuate here, and I've been locals show me, 167 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 2: you know, on their phone, like this is this is 168 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: the messages we get. This is how it works. And 169 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 2: there was a fire back in twenty eighteen, and they 170 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: used the system back back then. The infrastructure that's in 171 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: place now, the early alert warning was used in twenty 172 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: eighteen to this very haright. 173 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: So did that wireless system not work this time or 174 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: they didn't use it? What was the story? 175 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: Well, the thing is that they felt like they got 176 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 2: the alert too late, and then then a lot of 177 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 2: people didn't get it, and then they were blaming it 178 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: on the power outage, and it's like, well, the power 179 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: outage doesn't have anything to do with the cell alert 180 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 2: because the cell presumably unless cell towers are down, which 181 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 2: no one has said that that has been the case 182 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: or not, and or if the hub of where those 183 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 2: alerts come from was destroyed, which is typically out of 184 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 2: emergency operations center or a cell phone hub. So no 185 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 2: one said anything about any damage to those composts. 186 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: So nobody's explained why the alert didn't go out on 187 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: the wireless system. No Ah, All right. 188 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 2: Okay, So this here is a local reporter now who 189 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: is talking about the fact that there's a lot of 190 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 2: mistrust out there. Does that sound familiar? Same question I 191 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: asked on Monday, and mistrust and social media and the 192 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 2: role social media has been playing. And then this is 193 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: mcconna McClellan, the Press secretary, distilling the question. 194 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 3: So the question is around public trust. 195 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 5: Well, first and foremost, if you're relying on social media 196 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 5: with all due respect, well as an example you used, 197 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 5: it's a terrible example because social media is the worst source. 198 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 5: I think you'll let me answer the question. 199 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 6: Is government doing. 200 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 5: Reporting through social media is idiotic? 201 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 2: Doing reporting through social media is idiotic? 202 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 5: And then he goes on doing reporting in person is intelligent. 203 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 2: Doing reporting in person is intelligent. Now we're not allowed 204 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 2: to report in person, We're not allowed down there. And 205 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 2: then it goes on. He goes on and does a 206 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 2: lot of more platitudes. But after this press conference I 207 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 2: found out a federal official said that from this point 208 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: forward only local media, only media from Hawaii will be 209 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 2: allowed in the hot zone. Any outside media entity must 210 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 2: go through a cultural sensitivity training course. 211 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: Are you are you serious that cultural sensitivity? 212 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 7: Yeah? 213 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: And what do they teach you about the philosophy of aloha? 214 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 7: Yeah? 215 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 6: So that's here's my thing. 216 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 2: God, they're so fixated now on controlling the medium and 217 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: putting us in our place. And the police chief here, 218 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 2: John Pellettier, former Captain Las Vegas Metro PD, he is 219 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 2: really held bent on putting us in our place and 220 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 2: telling us where we belong in this whole entire scheme 221 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 2: of things. And yesterday, I mean again right back at 222 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 2: lecturing us on how to do our jobs and what 223 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 2: he thinks is news and not news. That's the thing 224 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 2: that always fascinates me about these people. 225 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: Why change They're desperate to cover up a lot of news. 226 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: They're hiding a lot of bad stories right now. To 227 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: why to send you to a cultural sensitivity training session? 228 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's Soviet Union stuff. 229 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 2: Well, and the interesting thing is, so you know, bart 230 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 2: Avery's been my handler on the ground here because he's 231 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 2: got forty years experience navigating this island. And he was 232 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 2: allowed to go with me into the hot zone the 233 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: other day because he was carrying equipment, and he was 234 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: also helping to photograph and sort of memorialize the visit 235 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 2: for us visually, and he did. And I can't wait. 236 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 2: I'm going to post a few photos today showing just 237 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 2: how I'm trapesing all over the bones and ash of 238 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 2: the dead, you know, as I was accused of doing 239 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 2: by the governor, And I'll give you It'll give you 240 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 2: exactly the perspective you need to see on how we 241 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 2: do our job in a zone like that, and it's 242 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 2: just mind boggling that he really thinks he can get 243 00:13:58,120 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 2: by with I mean, right now, he is the guy 244 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 2: in control. I mean, he's the guy in charge. 245 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: But I said, well, how long does this go on 246 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: before the national news media starts to well. 247 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: See, that's what I'm saying. So that was CBS that 248 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 2: got smacked down yesterday. I don't know how much of 249 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 2: a deal they're going to make about it, but I 250 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 2: don't think it's going to go away anytime soon. 251 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: This is a it's an extremely serious tragedy. It is 252 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: is a lot of dead people, and they they've got 253 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: their acting so squirrely that this really requires an in 254 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: depth media intens investigation. 255 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 2: Well, I thought what I would offer him is I'll 256 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 2: go through the Hawaiian cultural sensitivity training if he goes 257 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 2: through media relations training. 258 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: There's a deal. 259 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, I will. 260 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 2: I'm willing to do that. If he's willing to go 261 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: through media relations training, I'll go through sensitivity training. 262 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: They're not going to get better coverage by acting this way. 263 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 2: No, And I think kind of the sort of hypocrisy 264 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 2: about this is how he's turning us Mainlanders away. But 265 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 2: they want the Mainlanders support and how is he going 266 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 2: to his local people are not going to be able 267 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 2: to communicate because you don't get the Hawaiian newspaper out there. 268 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: And the psychological manipulation of cultural sensitivity respecting our looha philosophy, 269 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: I mean that is really the passive aggressive manipulation. 270 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 2: So I talked to two urban search and rescue people 271 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 2: yesterday and I asked him, I said, hey, I just 272 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 2: got an interesting question for you, like what did either 273 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 2: of you have to go through any sensitivity training in 274 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: order to approach these homes and these properties. And I 275 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 2: was asking you as a legitimate question because I did 276 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: not know that, perhaps because I do remember some sensitivities 277 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 2: when I used to work in Arizona about going on 278 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 2: to Indian reservation land and having to cover things there. 279 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 2: I was actually put through like a a primer, a 280 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 2: real quick primer on want not to do on Indian land. 281 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 2: And I understand that, and I was respectful of it. 282 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 2: So I wanted to know if any of these people 283 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 2: from all over the country have gone through some sort 284 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 2: of sensitivity training, and like, no, what are you talking about. 285 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 2: I'm thinking, you know, people, there are dozens and dozens 286 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 2: of rescue folks down there now that are going walking 287 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 2: over people's property and on private property and through rubble 288 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 2: and through businesses, and none of them has gone through 289 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 2: any kind of sensitivity training. So to suggest that reporters 290 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 2: should have to do the same thing when they're being 291 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 2: relegated to walking down the middle of a paved street 292 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 2: and not allowed into the areas that the rescuers are 293 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: is a bit of a stretch. 294 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: Well, they're covering up as best they can here because 295 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of bad stories, yep, that 296 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: they don't want known see. Thanks very much, take care 297 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: of Josh. All right, thank you. A little more on 298 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: this coming up. We're going to give you a rundown 299 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: of the stories that they want to cover up because 300 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: CNN Wall Street Journals has been doing some digging, and yeah, 301 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff that's indefensible, inexplicable. John and 302 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 1: Ken show And I wonder, is this the new latest 303 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: woke wave that you won't be able to cover news 304 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: unless you're culturally sensitive to the to the town or 305 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: the neighborhood. So if there's a crime spree and a 306 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: certain part of town, you can't get in there until 307 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: you become certified in the proper cultural sensitivity to the 308 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: to the beliefs and customs of the neighborhood. I mean, 309 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: I mean this could shut down all news where you 310 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: could be charged now with just through your news coverage 311 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 1: of being insensitive and you don't get certified, and so 312 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: you can't do your job. Well. This woke stuff that 313 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: the journalists have embraced now coming back to bite them. 314 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: John and Ken. 315 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 6: You're listening to John and Ken on Demand from KFI 316 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 6: A M six forty. 317 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: We're on the radio from one until four. Then after 318 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: four o'clock it's the Aheart app for the John and 319 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: Ken on Demand podcast. To listen to what you missed. 320 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: We just had Steve Gregory on about the Mali wildfires 321 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: and the town of Lahaina being destroyed, one hundred and 322 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 1: eleven dead, one thousand missing, and the difficulty that the 323 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: reporters there are having getting straight information out of the 324 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 1: various officials. They're very defensive and argumentative, and they want 325 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: to make reporters go through sensitivity training if they're from 326 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: outside the island. And they have this woman who conducts 327 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: the press conference by preaching about the Aloha mentality the 328 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: culture of Hawaii, which apparently is supposed to foreclose any 329 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: pointed aggressive questions. Never seen anything like this. But it's 330 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: an extension of wokeness, is what it is. Now have 331 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: to take a course in Hawaiian cultural sensitivity or you 332 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: cannot cover. Uh, you're not allowed in certain areas of 333 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: the island that have been affected by the fires, which 334 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: I've never heard before. Cultural sensitivity for the reporters before 335 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: they get to cover the fire. I just but this 336 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: is where wokeness keeps going. It is now eating up 337 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: the journalists who've helped promote this nonsense. But the people 338 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: in Hawaii, especially the survivors, the one who the ones 339 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: who have family and friends, who are now ashes, literally 340 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: they're ashes. They're being blocked from getting the proper information 341 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: to see who whose fault is this for it being 342 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: this bad, and people hate this is also really part 343 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: of the sensitivity woke movement. You're not supposed to blame 344 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: anybody anymore. Oh, you're just finger pointing. You're playing the 345 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: blame game. Yes we are finger pointing. My finger is 346 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: pointed at you, and I am blaming you. If you 347 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: either did your job badly or you neglected your job entirely, 348 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: and your actions cost the cost all these lives and 349 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: all this property. Because when you work for the people, 350 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: you have to do the right thing. You have a 351 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: higher standard than some shlub in a cubicle in some 352 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: god forsaken office. Still, if you're if you're involved in safety, 353 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: emergency safety for a city, and the public's paying you 354 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: and they're depending on you to get the information correct 355 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: and get the response correct, then people should be chasing 356 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: you down. They should start getting acting aggressively. If you're 357 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: not willingly giving up the information. Who the hell do 358 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: you think you are? You work for the people. The 359 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: people don't work for you. You work for the public. 360 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: And now we have a lot of dead members of 361 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: the public and a lot of destruction and a lot 362 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: of missing people. So you didn't turn on the siren. 363 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 1: Yeah you're going to hear about it. Of course you are. 364 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 1: If your job is to turn on the siren and 365 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: you didn't because you had some convoluted thinking, or you 366 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: were lazy or stupid, or you just habitually make bad decisions, 367 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: and then yeah, you should get smacked around. I don't 368 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: understand this. You're just government workers, Like, get over yourselves, 369 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: you know, and we're gonna follow that path by the 370 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: way for our own local issue after two o'clock, like 371 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: trolley's coming on because Karen Bass and other police officials 372 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: has announced a task force, a task force to investigate 373 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: all these smash and grab robberies. But you know, drop 374 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: near the bottom of the article and leave it to 375 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 1: the El Segundo Times. This should be the headline. The 376 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: county Sheriff Robert Luna says, this department is where of 377 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy he said, organized retail thefts, one 378 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy and now they're triggering a task for us. 379 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: Huh And out of that one hundred and seventy, how 380 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: many of them are the same guys over and over 381 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 1: again who have been picked up on other crimes and 382 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: George Gascone hasn't prosecuted them. That's the question. A lot 383 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: of this is going to lead back to Gascon, except 384 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: Gascone employs the same kind of tactics that these clodes 385 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: in Hawaii are imposing. When reporters tried to corner him 386 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: on Monday, he got all angry and defensive, started waving 387 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 1: their hands in him at the reporters. So you know, 388 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: this is endemic. Now, this kind of behavior from guilty 389 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: public servants who are on our payroll when they get 390 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: caught with bad policy or just shirking their responsibilities. They 391 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: that's the thing. Not to get too far sidetracked. But 392 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 1: Gascone in that press conference wasn't blaming the thieves so 393 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: much as those people who buy the merchandise that the 394 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: thieves sell in the neighborhoods or online. You f all 395 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: that it's the thieves customers who are to blame. That's 396 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: who we focused on. And then he jumped on the 397 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: reporters for not reading and parroting his midterm report on crime. 398 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: He wouldn't answer anybody's question clearly. So that's what they're doing. 399 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: This is the same version of this in Hawaii, although 400 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: it's many many times more tragic because these are one 401 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: hundred and eleven people and there's a lot of children involved. 402 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: And we start here with the electric company. Hawaiian Electrics 403 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: said publicly in twenty nineteen it would conduct drone surveys 404 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: to identify areas vulnerable to wildfires determined how to keep 405 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: residents and infrastructure safe. So that's four years ago in truth, 406 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: though according to the Wall Street Journal, between twenty nineteen 407 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: and twenty twenty two, Hawaiian Electric invested less than two 408 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: hundred and forty five thousand dollars, and that's according to 409 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: regulatory filings that the Wall Street Journal inspected. So publicly 410 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: they got a cheap headline, Yeah, yeah, we're gonna get 411 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,959 Speaker 1: a drone and we're gonna map and monitor, you know, 412 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: to see who's at risk and a wildfire. They did 413 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: no such thing. Okay, two hundred and forty five thousand 414 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 1: dollars doesn't even cover lunch for those four years. And 415 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: Hawaiian Electric is under a lot of criticism for not 416 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 1: shutting down power lines when the high winds created dangerous 417 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: fire conditions. And if you heard the woman who was 418 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: speaking for Hawaiian Electric, well, that's not something that we 419 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: do here. That's something that's in California. But it's controversial. 420 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: Whether it's controversial or not is not the point. This 421 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: is not up for everybody to vote on. This is 422 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: a policy that if you take, if you shut down 423 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 1: the power then the power lines can't start fires. You see, 424 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: That's how it works. And by the way, I also 425 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: read that there were studies that said they should have 426 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: buried the power lines years ago. And just like California, 427 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: nobody did. This whole Maui situation is very reminiscent to 428 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: the Paradise fires a few years back, just you know, 429 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: in competence on the part of the electric company, in 430 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: competence on the part of government officials in responding to it. 431 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: Just like in Lahina, there were only a couple of 432 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: exit routes out of Paradise. And in general, nobody in 433 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: government that we paid billions of dollars to was prepared, 434 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: was ready, that made the right decisions. They have the money, 435 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: they voluntarily took the job, they agreed to be hired. 436 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: Now here's what comes with us with it. You get 437 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: a lot of money they do get paid with, and 438 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: you get pensions and benefits and in return, oh gee, 439 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: if there's a fire, flip the switch. And if you 440 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: don't want people moving in one direction because of the 441 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: way they're attuned to that siren, well then come up 442 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: with another plan. And he should have had the other 443 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: plan years ago. There's no excuse for this. 444 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 6: Johnny Ken, you're listening to John and Ken on demand 445 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 6: from KFI AM six. 446 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: Forty Blake trolley is going to come on after two 447 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 1: Because he went to a Karen Bass's press conference announcing 448 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 1: a task force to fight the smash and grab robberies. 449 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,719 Speaker 1: That's right, when people show up at a nordstroms now right, 450 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: when the robbers pile out of their mercedes, you know, 451 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 1: thirty to fifty of them, they're going to run right 452 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: into that task force guarding the front doors. Yikes. All right, 453 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: here's another idiot politician. And I like this guy for 454 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: about five minutes, but he's turned out to be a nut. 455 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: Eric Adams, the Mayor of New York. He is angry 456 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: that nearly all of the illegal aliens that made it 457 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: to the state of New York are in New York City. 458 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: And he even went through the math. Listen to this clip. 459 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 7: This is a national, a statewide issue. 460 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 4: That has been unjustly dropped into the lap of New 461 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 4: York City resident. 462 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 3: We only make up point zero five of the land 463 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 3: mass in New York State. Point zero five that's what 464 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 3: we make up. 465 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: Yet we are housing over ninety nine percent of the migrants. Wow, No, 466 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: mister Mayor. The rest of the state, the most of 467 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: the other ninety nine point ninety five percent of the 468 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: land mass, did not declare their cities a sanctuary for 469 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: illegal aliens. You got this crowd because you declared it 470 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 1: a sanctuary, so the illegal aliens thought, oh, this is 471 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: a good place to go. And you also had some 472 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 1: illegal aliens sent there by other mayors and governors who 473 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: didn't want their cities and states to be a sanctuary 474 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,479 Speaker 1: because they don't have the money or the personnel or 475 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 1: the living space. So it's like, hey, New York says 476 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: it's a sanctuary. They've got the time and energy for this. 477 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: Here you go. They're on their way. Most of these 478 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 1: illegal aliens are finding New York on their own, by 479 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: the way. I know the Abbot and DeSantis bus and 480 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: plane rides are getting a lot of attention, but most 481 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: of these people are migrating to New York on their own. 482 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: And Adams had made it clear at the beginning that 483 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: they were going to take care of all these people. 484 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: But now he's got hundreds of migrants sleeping on the sidewalks, 485 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: and he's saying, there was never a desire to have 486 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: anyone sleep outside the dam burst. I don't know how 487 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: to get it clear. For a year and eight months, 488 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: no one was sleeping on our streets. And he said 489 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: the dam well, the damn burst because everybody in your 490 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: party has supported Biden's open borders plan. When you have 491 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: open borders, this is what happens. You didn't squawk about 492 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: it before they arrived in New York. You thought it. 493 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: You didn't make a complaint as long as the migrants 494 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: were confined to El Paso or Brownsville, Texas. And then 495 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: you said it was cruel when those officials sent the 496 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: migrants out. Well, now they're with you. I mean, I mean, 497 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: does are they all insane? Is everybody out of their minds? 498 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: What do you think sanctuary mean? You didn't say we 499 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: have sanctuary for the first one thousand, right, You didn't 500 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: set a limit on It's like, get a on the table, 501 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: take those first one thousand migrants, but after that, no 502 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: more sanctuary. I I don't understand they do this with 503 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: a straight face. I have no idea if they believe 504 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: what they're saying. Do they forget what they said, you know, 505 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: a month ago? Do they realize what they're promoting is unworkable? 506 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: This is another one of those things that's simply it 507 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: doesn't work. I don't care what your political belief system is, 508 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: this doesn't work. Open borders, sanctuary cities what do you 509 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: think is going to happen? Hey? All right, coming up 510 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: another thing that never works, task forces. But we got 511 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: another one carabass announced to one today Lake Trolley. We'll 512 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: tell us. This is in response to called the smash 513 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: and Grab robberies. Johnny Ken Show, Ken'sway Deborah Mark live 514 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,479 Speaker 1: in the twenty four hour Cafe Newsroom. Hey, you've been 515 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: listening to the John and Ken Show. 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