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Speaker 1: First question. More and more people Nick Right, Bill Simmons, etc.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the analytical approach leading to always more

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for supporting the show. So there's

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Speaker 1: as a team, they ranked seventh in the league and

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Speaker 1: above the break three point percentage at thirty seven point

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Speaker 1: four percent. This year is a team, They're at thirty

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Speaker 1: eight point eight percent, which ranks fourth in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: So yes, they are a little better than last year.

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Speaker 1: The big one to me though, is PJ Washington is

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Speaker 1: shooting forty nine percent on above the break threes. You

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Speaker 1: guys might remember in the NBA Finals that was one

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Speaker 1: of the big things that went wrong for the MAVs,

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Speaker 1: specifically PJ. Washington and Derek Jones Junior. Derek Jones is gone,

444
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Speaker 1: brought in different guys, Klay Thompson, and Quinton Grimes are

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Speaker 1: both shooting over forty percent on above the break threes

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Speaker 1: this year.

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Speaker 2: But PJ.

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Speaker 1: Washington was the guy that they needed. And I talked

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Speaker 1: a lot last summer about how I expected PJ. Washington

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Speaker 1: to be in the damn gym all summer working on

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Speaker 1: that above the break jump shot, and he clearly did.

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Speaker 1: Forty nine percent is a real positive uptick for him

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Speaker 1: year over a year. Can you make an advanced basketball

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Speaker 1: analysis for dummies segment from time to time where you

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Speaker 1: break down the situations but explain the concepts or terminology

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Speaker 1: to use in your analysis. So I'd be down to

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Speaker 1: try this, but I like, there's just so many different concepts.

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Speaker 1: So what I would like for you guys to do again,

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Speaker 1: like when you put in your comment, if you put

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Speaker 1: mail bag with a colon at the beginning of the comment,

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Speaker 1: that's like a big shining light that tells me that's

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Speaker 1: a mail bag question, which helps me when I'm scrolling

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Speaker 1: through like two hundred comments, right, so like mail bag

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Speaker 1: and then just put like can you please explain this?

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Speaker 1: So like if you hey, can you please explain you know,

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Speaker 1: how like a can you please explain how stack pick

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Speaker 1: and roll? Works, or can you please explain how can

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Speaker 1: you please explain what a post split is and how

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Speaker 1: that works? Like you, if you want me to do that,

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Speaker 1: just put it in the mail bag and just put

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Speaker 1: play a mail bag. Can you please explain whatever? And

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Speaker 1: then I will add that as a segment into our

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Speaker 1: mail bag to our Friday mail bags. I think that's

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Speaker 1: an easy way to do that, and then you guys

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Speaker 1: can direct me into the stuff that you specifically want

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Speaker 1: to see explained. This is one troll, but it's just

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Speaker 1: something I need to clarify. Someone goes out on the Lakers,

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Speaker 1: you can't be from LA or be a real Lakers fan.

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Speaker 1: I would just assume you are an LBJ fan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was born and raised in Tucson, Arizona. I don't

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Speaker 1: have any loyalty to any NBA team. I root for

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Speaker 1: the Lakers because Lebron James is my favorite player. When

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Speaker 1: I was in when I was like early teens, I

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Speaker 1: ended up watching Lebron James playing in the early portion

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Speaker 1: of his career and watching Lebron. I grew up in

487
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Speaker 1: a a baseball football family, and watching Lebron cause me

488
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Speaker 1: to fall in love with basketball. And then I also

489
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Speaker 1: got super lucky and I got super tall unlike the

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Speaker 1: rest of my family, and like that kind of like

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Speaker 1: sent my life down that trajectory. But like Lebron has

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Speaker 1: is the one player in the league right now that

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Speaker 1: I have kind of a sentimental attachment to, simply because

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Speaker 1: he was the guy that literally altered the trajectory of

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Speaker 1: my life. Like I fell in love with the game

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Speaker 1: watching Lebron in two thousand and six try to take

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Speaker 1: the Pistons down and lose in seven games. That was

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Speaker 1: when I first started watching him, and then I, you know,

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Speaker 1: like again, I became a huge basketball fan. But like

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Speaker 1: Lebron has always been like my favorite player centering around that.

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Speaker 1: Like again, it happened when I was a kid, so

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Speaker 1: you can imagine there's like a sentimental type of deal there.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I've been upfront about that from the beginning,

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Speaker 1: even to Lakers fans, like I root for the Lakers

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Speaker 1: because of Lebron. I have no attachment to the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: And when Lebron's retires, like I won't have a single

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Speaker 1: team that I actively emotionally root for. I'll have teams

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Speaker 1: that I like as a fan and dislike as a fan.

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Speaker 1: Like not within the realm of any sort of emotion,

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Speaker 1: if that makes sense. Question for the mailbag, why is

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Speaker 1: the Lakers GM incompetent and doing absolutely nothing for the Lakers?

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Speaker 1: What is his actual role for the Lakers? So I

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Speaker 1: do think Rob Polinka is not very good at his job.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: I think it's impot when you say something like that

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Speaker 1: that you explain why. I think there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: like this guy sucks kind of thing going on where

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Speaker 1: people just say it. And I think it's important when

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Speaker 1: you make that sort of assertion that you back it

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Speaker 1: up with evidence is the wrong word, but provide the

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Speaker 1: reasoning behind your analysis, right, because evidence is difficult because

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Speaker 1: it's not really it's a very subjective thing. And so

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Speaker 1: like there's a certain amount of this where it's like,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure if you asked Rob, he would probably make

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Speaker 1: a case that defends all the decisions that he made.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: My case for why I don't think Rob is good

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Speaker 1: at his job centers around the concept of his basketball

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Speaker 1: vision from the beginning when Rob first got the job.

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Speaker 1: I should say, after Magic Johnson left, let zoom in

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Speaker 1: on the lebron ad Era first, he wants a third star.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't work out, so then he goes and he

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Speaker 1: gets a bunch of these like pretty big athletic role players, right,

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Speaker 1: Like that's the Danny Green. Danny Green, it's you know,

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Speaker 1: Avery Bradley, it's JaVale McGee, Dwight Howard.

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Speaker 2: It's just this like big athletic team, right.

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Speaker 1: And then you're like, okay, well we want to get

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Speaker 1: another ball handler. So you flipped Andy Green for Dennis

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Speaker 1: Schroeder or whatever. But after that season, it's like, now

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Speaker 1: we're flipping all of these role players for Russell Westbrook.

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Speaker 1: And then it's like, now, let's try building a team

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Speaker 1: around offense. Here's Malik Monk, here's Carmelo Anthony, and now

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Speaker 1: there's like no centers or forwards on the roster, and

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Speaker 1: it's like, well, now let's try this.

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Speaker 2: Now, let's try that.

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Speaker 1: There's no coherent basketball vision, like if you asked me,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that I should be a GM there.

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Speaker 1: That's a very very complicated job. There's a lot more

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Speaker 1: that goes into it. But I have a basketball vision,

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Speaker 1: like I have a belief in the way that I

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Speaker 1: think basketball works, and it tweaks slightly as I take

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Speaker 1: on new information each passing year, covering the league. But like,

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Speaker 1: I'm a believer that you need to be athletic on

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Speaker 1: the perimeter. You need big, functional athletes on the perimeter

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Speaker 1: because this is a game that is played in space

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Speaker 1: and in transition. Right, Like, I don't know what Rob

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Speaker 1: Polinka's basketball philosophy is because every year he's done something

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Speaker 1: different and so there's no coherent like this, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what Rob Polinka thinks about the game of basketball,

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Speaker 1: which I feel like I should right when I watch Boston.

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Speaker 1: I know what Brad Stevens' basketball vision is. He wants

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Speaker 1: guys that can dribble, shoot, pass, and defend on the perimeter.

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Speaker 1: So like even the guys that are like coming off

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Speaker 1: the bench for them, the Samhuser's and Peyton Pritchards, they guard,

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Speaker 1: they defend, they can play, read and react basketball. There

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Speaker 1: is a very specific type of player that you see

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Speaker 1: them go after Oklahoma City Sam Presty, same sort of thing.

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Speaker 1: You can tell Sam Presty has a basketball vision and

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Speaker 1: that every draft pick that he brings in seems to

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Speaker 1: fall into that same vision. In that same kind of

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Speaker 1: belief system surrounding the game. Golden State, over the last

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Speaker 1: two gms, they've had there's been a consistent basketball culture,

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Speaker 1: a basketball vision that you see there. The second big

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Speaker 1: thing with rob is a strategic mistake that I again,

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Speaker 1: there's a bunch that you can get into right Like,

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Speaker 1: there's a boatload of mistakes over the years, like letting

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Speaker 1: Brook Lopez walk for absolutely nothing, letting Julius Randall walk

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Speaker 1: for absolutely nothing. Trading all of your best role players

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Speaker 1: for Russell Westbrook was a huge mistake, but even more recently,

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Speaker 1: the idea of oh, we're gonna wait to make the

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Speaker 1: right deal. Well, you've been waiting two years to make

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Speaker 1: the right deal, and now Lebron's about to turn forty

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Speaker 1: instead of turning thirty eight. It's very possible that last

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Speaker 1: year in April, when Lebron was playing like one of

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Speaker 1: the top three or four players in the league, that

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Speaker 1: that was the last time that he will ever be

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Speaker 1: that good. And so any benefit you gained by waiting

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Speaker 1: for the better trade has been undercut by Lebron's older

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Speaker 1: and slower Now, is that was an I've those of

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Speaker 1: you guys have been watching the show. I have preached

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Speaker 1: that exact same take for years. Now, what's the point

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Speaker 1: of waiting, like you might get someone a little better.

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Speaker 1: But Lebron's really good right now? Why aren't we doing

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Speaker 1: this right now? Lebron and Ad were playing at such

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Speaker 1: a high level last April. It's very possible that if

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Speaker 1: they had put in their draft picks and made some

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Speaker 1: sort of ceiling raising move that they get that they

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Speaker 1: make a run. It's very possible they led the majority

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Speaker 1: of that Nugget series. Two Jamal Murray shots turn the

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Speaker 1: series around. It's I'm not saying they would have beat Denver,

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Speaker 1: but they might have had a much better chance had

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Speaker 1: they been more aggressive last year. So it's been the

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Speaker 1: lack of a coherent basketball vision, tons and tons of mistakes,

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Speaker 1: and then now just the complete botching of the Lebron

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Speaker 1: James tail end of his prime. I think that it's very,

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Speaker 1: very important for the Lakers to have synergy between their

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Speaker 1: coaching staff and their front office. They absolutely need to

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Speaker 1: get Rob Polinka out of there and get somebody in

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Speaker 1: there that's not an agency figurehead, that's not a personality type,

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Speaker 1: but is rather just a basketball mind, a grinder, someone

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Speaker 1: who has a vision, someone who understands what wins in

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Speaker 1: the modern NBA and is willing to build that vision

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Speaker 1: out over years and years as a culture builds within

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Speaker 1: connection and against synergy with the coaching staff to make

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Speaker 1: sure you're on the same page as you build a

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Speaker 1: basketball culture for the future. And until they do that,

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Speaker 1: until Genie Buss empowers a basketball mind and not a

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Speaker 1: buddy of hers, it's going to continue to be an issue. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I'm off my sobbocks. Next question, does increased three point

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Speaker 1: volume also correlate with higher offensive rebounding rates? If so,

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Speaker 1: do you think the greater chance for a second possession

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Speaker 1: is a meaningful stat when it comes to shot selection?

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Speaker 1: So interestingly enough, I just wanted to do like a

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Speaker 1: little tiny bit of research for this one. Top ten

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Speaker 1: and three point volume right now per one hundred possessions Boston, Charlotte, Chicago,

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Speaker 1: Golden State, Brooklyn, Minnesota, San Antonio, Phoenix, Oklahoma City, Miami,

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Speaker 1: Top ten and offensive rebound percentage so percentage of their

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Speaker 1: own misses that they recover Houston, Toronto, Memphis, Charlotte, Atlanta, Utah, Portland,

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Speaker 1: Golden State, New Orleans, Orlando. So Charlotte and Golden State

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Speaker 1: are the only two teams that are on both lists.

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Speaker 1: So again, I haven't done any sort of substantial research,

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Speaker 1: but on the surface level, it looks like there's not

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Speaker 1: much correlation between high volume three point teams and offensive rebounding.

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Speaker 1: So again, there are gonna be data departments in some

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Speaker 1: of these teams that could do more detailed research, but

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Speaker 1: that's just my kind of quick research there that looks

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Speaker 1: like there's not too much.

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Speaker 2: Of a correlation.

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Speaker 1: This is a fun one. Hi to Jason and so

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Speaker 1: the rest of your team. My driving buddy, you're the

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Speaker 1: voice that keeps me saying driving home after work and

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Speaker 1: all these and all this chaotic traffic every day.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: I've been following your channel since you began with the volume,

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Speaker 1: and I'm just a fan of your love and colledged basketball.

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Speaker 1: Plus we are probably very close in age, so our

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Speaker 1: point of view off in a line easily love the show.

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Speaker 1: Keep up the good work. Thanks again for the kind words.

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Speaker 1: My question is about a basketball scheme that has recently

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Speaker 1: been brought up by the Thinking Basketball channel. They recently

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Speaker 1: uploaded a video talking about how the Grizzlies are not

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Speaker 1: running pick and roll, but instead having their ball handler

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Speaker 1: driving into space and then everyone just rotating around. Accordingly,

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Speaker 1: Draymond Green also mentioned it in some postgame interview, said

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Speaker 1: that he almost never has seen it before.

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Speaker 2: I have seen some.

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Speaker 1: Comments saying it was an early level college basketball concept,

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Speaker 1: but myself never having never been following college basketball scene,

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Speaker 1: so I also never saw this either. Do you know

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Speaker 1: anything of this scheme? I would I if so, I

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Speaker 1: would love to hear your thoughts on this. So okay,

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Speaker 1: let's go quickly into just some of the realities here. So,

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Speaker 1: the Grizzlies do still run screens, they just don't do

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Speaker 1: it nearly as much. To give you an idea, the

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Speaker 1: Grizzlies run only twenty pick and rolls including passes per game.

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Speaker 1: That's the fewest in the MBA. To give you any idea,

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Speaker 1: the Calves run the most in the league. They run

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Speaker 1: forty four per game. Twenty seven of the thirty NBA

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Speaker 1: teams run at least thirty one ball screens per game.

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Speaker 1: Golden State, Denver, and Memphis are the only three teams

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Speaker 1: to run less than thirty. But Golden State and Denver

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Speaker 1: are both top five in handoffs. Memphis is dead last

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Speaker 1: in handoffs two so to put it very light, to

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Speaker 1: put it very simply, Memphis runs the fewest two man

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Speaker 1: on ball possession like two man game on ball possessions

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Speaker 1: in the league. So like Dho's ball screens, things along

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Speaker 1: those lines, they do it the least. Okay, the way

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Speaker 1: that Memphis offense works, it's a lot. They do run

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Speaker 1: some screening action. They run a lot off ball action.

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Speaker 1: Like a lot of times they'll have John Murray bring

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Speaker 1: the ball up the right side of the floor and

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Speaker 1: they'll be running a set to get Desmond Bain coming

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Speaker 1: off of something right. And then again, they do still

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Speaker 1: run ball screens. They run twenty of them a game. Again,

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Speaker 1: not as frequently as other NBA teams, but they do

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Speaker 1: still do it.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: The primary method of initiation or Memphis centers around dribble penetration.

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Speaker 1: This is unique to the superstar that leads this team.

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Speaker 1: The vast majority of players in the NBA have no

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Speaker 1: chance keeping Ja Morant in front. Why do we run

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Speaker 1: ball screens? This is an important kind of like separate

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Speaker 1: topic here. Why do we run ball screens? We run

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Speaker 1: ball screens to give our ball handlers an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: get downhill. That's literally why we do it. And so

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Speaker 1: if I can get downhill without a ball screen, then

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Speaker 1: there's just no necessary there's no need for me to

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Speaker 1: get a screener involved, right, that's the idea.

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Speaker 2: It's a jamarant superpower.

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Speaker 1: But the interesting thing enough, interestingly enough, though, it is

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Speaker 1: a system that they run with all their units, Like

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Speaker 1: they'll do it with their bench groups too, and they'll

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Speaker 1: do it with all the players. Like if Scotty Pippen

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Speaker 1: Junior catches on the top, he's just gonna look to

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Speaker 1: attack off the dribble, Marcus Smart catches on the top,

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Speaker 1: he's just gonna look to attack off the dribble. And

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Speaker 1: then from there, everybody in their off ball positioning just

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Speaker 1: stays fluid. So like if Ja Morant is driving off

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Speaker 1: the left wing, and Desmond Bain's in the corner, and

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Speaker 1: you know, Jared Jackson is kind of flashing to the

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Speaker 1: high post, and there's let's call it Jalen Wells in

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Speaker 1: the left wing as Jaws driving, Desmond Baine will cut

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Speaker 1: out of the corner along the baseline to try to

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Speaker 1: make himself available under the basket. Jalen Wells will wheel

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Speaker 1: to the left corner. Everyone just kind of stays in

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Speaker 1: motion around because of the simple fact that it's difficult

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Speaker 1: to track man and ball right as a help side

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Speaker 1: defender if you're standing still it's easier for me to

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Speaker 1: track the ball handler. If you're in motion, it's harder

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Speaker 1: for me to track the ball handler. You get the point, right,

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Speaker 1: So the gist of it is they basically just get

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Speaker 1: the defense in rotation via Ja Morant and everyone else's

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Speaker 1: but mainly John Moran's dribble penetration, and they play drive

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Speaker 1: and kick basketball out of it.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Other teams have to use screening actions or different methods

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Speaker 1: of attack to try to get the defense in rotation,

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Speaker 1: but it still is more or less the same concept.

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Speaker 1: You don't need a screen as much when John Morant

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Speaker 1: is involved. They are really really good at getting dribble

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Speaker 1: penetration too, Like they generate the most spot up opportunities

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Speaker 1: in the league. Why because they get great drible penetration,

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Speaker 1: although they are terrible at converting those spot up possessions,

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Speaker 1: as we talked about in the Monday Show. They're also

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Speaker 1: fourth in baskets made off of cuts per game. The

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Speaker 1: interesting thing is is like they're fifth in offense, but

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Speaker 1: I checked it for resilience. They're only eleventh in offense

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Speaker 1: against the top ten defenses, which is not bad, but

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Speaker 1: not as good as they are in the large sample

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Speaker 1: but then they also went into Boston and beat the Celtics.

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Speaker 1: And like, if you were asking me, like, oh, Jason,

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Speaker 1: what's the type of problem that this type of offense

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Speaker 1: could run into? Is like, what if you get some

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Speaker 1: a team that really can contain the ball well? And

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Speaker 1: the two teams I would look at there are Boston

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Speaker 1: and Oklahoma City. Right, Boston and Oklahoma City lots of

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Speaker 1: good perimeter defenders. What if they just contained the ball.

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Speaker 1: Memphis went into Boston and got to win. They haven't

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Speaker 1: played Oklahoma City yet, but I would like to see

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma City in the type of matchup as well, because

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma City, it's like, what if Keason Wallace is on

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Speaker 1: the ball and there's just a bunch of athletes around

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Speaker 1: him and they're just they're just good at containing and

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Speaker 1: then it becomes an issue.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: And the other thing too, is like if you've got

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Speaker 1: really good rim protection, Memphis just has a lot of

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Speaker 1: guys that aren't good shooters, and so you can sit

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Speaker 1: in the paint and you can do a lot to

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Speaker 1: kind of offer help in those sorts of situations too.

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Speaker 1: So like it's one of those things where like I'd

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Speaker 1: like to just see a lot more of it before

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Speaker 1: I take any sort of strong stance. But it is

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Speaker 1: a very interesting play style. I played a bunch of

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Speaker 1: different offensive systems in my time playing organized basketball. Ironically,

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Speaker 1: the only time I ever played in a system like

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Speaker 1: this was my last year playing in high school. So

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Speaker 1: my senior year, our head coach at that time, Tim Batton,

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Speaker 1: he had a system. We had a guard, a really

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Speaker 1: really fast guard, and we played a driving kick system.

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Speaker 1: So we would do four out with a big in

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Speaker 1: the opposite block and then basically like there was no screen,

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Speaker 1: was like, just beat that dude off the dribble and

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Speaker 1: we play driving kick, and that was that was what

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Speaker 1: we ran for the majority of that season. But it's

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Speaker 1: not something I ran in any other place that I played,

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Speaker 1: and kind of like what Draymond was saying, it is

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Speaker 1: a pretty uncommon offensive style. But the reason why is

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Speaker 1: because not many teams have John Morant, and so most

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Speaker 1: of the time you just kind of feel comfortable with

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Speaker 1: your best ball, with your best ball, like on ball

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Speaker 1: defenders being able to contain the ball well enough to

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Speaker 1: kind of render that type of offense useless, right, But

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Speaker 1: like John Morant's a superpower. It's kind of like how

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Speaker 1: you know with It's kind of like with teams like Denver,

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Speaker 1: they play a very different offensive style than most teams

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Speaker 1: in the league because they have Nikola Jokic and Nicole

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Speaker 1: Jokich just unlocks of different capability that other teams don't have. Right,

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Speaker 1: But very very interesting question, and I'll continue to try

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Speaker 1: to build out my understanding of Memphis offense and try

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Speaker 1: to help break it down.

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Speaker 2: For you guys over the course of this season.

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Speaker 1: There's a large portion of Warriors fans who have been

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Speaker 1: calling for Steve Curtiy fired ever since the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: two to twenty twenty three seasons struggles. I'm not among them,

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Speaker 1: but I am curious to hear your take on his

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Speaker 1: role in the Warrior struggles ever since they won the

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Speaker 1: championship in twenty two. Its three guard lineups, favoritism of

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Speaker 1: older players like Chris Paul and Klay Thompson, and unwillingness

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Speaker 1: to play bigs or younger players have all been called

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Speaker 1: into question. Where are you on Steve Kerr and the

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Speaker 1: job that he's done coaching the Warriors the last three seasons,

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Speaker 1: including this one. Thanks, love the show and always appreciate

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Speaker 1: you answering our mail back questions. Thanks for the support

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Speaker 1: and thanks for the kind words. So here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm always hesitant to get on the coach when there

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Speaker 1: are roster flaws, like we can we have to call

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Speaker 1: it what it is. This roster does have issues as

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Speaker 1: it pertains to shot creation beyond steph and interior size. Right,

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Speaker 1: that's just the reality of this roster. So like Steve

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Speaker 1: Kerr is always trying to confront those problems, right, And

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Speaker 1: whenever there's a flawed roster and you have a basketball

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Speaker 1: mind trying shit to try to fix it, he's gonna

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Speaker 1: have to take some risks. And it's very easy to

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Speaker 1: play the results and be like like I don't think

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Speaker 1: this is working, or like like, man, he should have

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Speaker 1: just done this instead, And it's like you don't think

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Speaker 1: he's sitting there thinking like, man, I don't know what

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Speaker 1: to do.

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Speaker 2: Let's try this.

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Speaker 1: This might work, but it's like he could have tried

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Speaker 1: something different and it might have failed just as much,

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Speaker 1: simply because there are some roster limitations there, Like there

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Speaker 1: are things that I disagree with, for instance, like I

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Speaker 1: do think that playing a super super long rotation can

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Speaker 1: affect player's rhythms sometimes I think that's a realistic criticism.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, there's a flip side to

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Speaker 1: that coin, which is the Warriors compete really really hard

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Speaker 1: and play really really fast, and it's just hard to

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Speaker 1: ask a nine or eight man rotation to do that

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Speaker 1: compared to an eleven or twelve man rotation. Right like that,

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Speaker 1: there's two sides to that coin, and so it's a

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Speaker 1: more complicated discussion than just Steve Kerr is doing the

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Speaker 1: wrong thing. I disagree with benching Draymond. I understand why

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Speaker 1: they did it to try to open up opportunity for

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Kamingo with the starters and hopefully inflate his trade value.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, your starter's got your butts kicked by

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Speaker 1: the Mavericks starters, and in the large part because they're

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Speaker 1: five best players on the floor and you have one

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Speaker 1: of your best players sitting on the bench. That's a

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Speaker 1: decision that I disagree with. But also smart coaches have

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Speaker 1: a tendency to audible and do what they need to

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Speaker 1: do when the time calls for it. I don't think

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Speaker 1: Steve Kerr is gonna leave Raymond on the bench for

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Speaker 1: much longer. I wouldn't be surprised if he's back starting

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Speaker 1: within the next game or two, Like, I don't think

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Speaker 1: that's a decision he's going to stick to. To me,

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Speaker 1: it's totally okay for coaches to try shit when they're

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Speaker 1: dealing with flawed rosters. To me, it's about adaptability. Can

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Speaker 1: you accept when something's not working and make an audible right.

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Speaker 1: To JJ Reddick's credit, for the Lakers, he's been trying

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Speaker 1: this switching scheme. I really like switching as a fundamental

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Speaker 1: back basketball concept. But in order to switch, because there's

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Speaker 1: so many disadvantageous rebounding situations and disadvantageous io post up situations,

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Speaker 1: you kind of need like five guys that are all

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Speaker 1: pretty big and athletic, and the Lakers just aren't big

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Speaker 1: and athletics, so they probably shouldn't be switching. They should

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Speaker 1: probably be keeping Anthony Davis and Lebron James at the

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Speaker 1: rim as much as possible. But to JJ Reddick's credit,

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Speaker 1: he tried it for twenty something games, and he's been

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Speaker 1: slowly kind of tweaking the system and going back to

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Speaker 1: traditional ballscreen coverages where they're asking their guards to chase

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Speaker 1: over the top. It's like, again, you try shit, Sometimes

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Speaker 1: it works, sometimes it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: You have to be adaptable.

866
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Speaker 1: And the bottom line is is like, let's let's synthesize this,

867
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Speaker 1: simplify I should say this Steve curR issue down to

868
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: one topic. How did you guys feel about the Warriors

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00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: going into the season? Like, did you guys view the

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00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: Warriors as a team that was going to be in

871
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: the upper portion of the conference all season? Because they've

872
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: had relative to expectation, they've had a pretty damn good

873
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: start to the season. Like if I told you they're

874
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Speaker 1: going to be fourteen and eleven before the season, you

875
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Speaker 1: wouldn't have been surprised at all. You'd have been like,

876
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: this feels like a fourteen and eleven roster, right. But

877
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: because they got off to a hot start and kicked

878
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: everybody's butt for a few weeks at the start of

879
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: the season, it like tweaked everybody's expectations and now we

880
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: think they're underachieving. But the truth of the matter is

881
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: is just start ranking players around the league. Every team

882
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 1: out there has two or three Any team that's competing

883
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: for a title has two or three players that are

884
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 1: in the top thirty forty players in the league. And

885
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: the Warriors have won. It's just really, really difficult to

886
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: compete on a talent level in that sort of circumstance. Hey, Jason,

887
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: love your show. I'm going to try to rapid fire

888
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 1: through these because I got to be out of here

889
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: in just a few minutes. Hey Jason, love your show.

890
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: What does OKC style of defense look like against an

891
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: offense like the Celtics the thunder play and aggressive ball

892
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: pressure passing lane, Steel's blitzing style of defense. Boston is

893
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: at their best when teams blitz and or double and

894
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: put two on the ball, which allows them to drive

895
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: and kick and get defenses into rotation. I've thought about

896
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: this a lot too, and I'm really really excited to

897
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 1: watch ok S versus Boston. I was looking, there's one.

898
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: There's one coming up in like the next like month

899
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: or so. I think it's uh, I think it's like yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it's like in the next month or so.

901
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: And it's like not even not even on national television,

902
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: which is like crazy to me because that game just

903
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,240
Speaker 1: needs to be on national television. But we'll be covering

904
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: it when the time comes. But yeah, that's that's the thing.

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00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:17,919
Speaker 2: Okay.

906
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: So he's really aggressive and they and they kind of

907
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: like to be in rotation. Boston is one of the

908
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: best teams in the league at beating teams that are

909
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: in rotation, so it's going to be kind of like

910
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: a unstoppable force versus a movable object. Let's see what happens.

911
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 1: But I'll definitely get into great detail on that game

912
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: when we finally get to see it. Jason, why do

913
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: you insist Yokich is the best player in the world

914
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: even though Yannis demonstrates the same ability to pass and

915
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: play make is a better score is better off ball offensively,

916
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: is an elite ball handler, and his EON's better defensively.

917
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: I know it's hard to admit you're wrong, but there's

918
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: literally no case for Jokich. Riyanis metrics are not a

919
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: reliable way to evaluate player performance. With all due respect,

920
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: I just disagree with it about everything you said. He

921
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: does not pass as well as Jokich, not even close.

922
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: He doesn't play make as well as Jokich, not even close.

923
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: He's not a better scorer than Yokich. Joll Kich is

924
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: a much better scorer in my opinion, especially when things

925
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 1: slow down in the half court. Jo Kich is a

926
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: much better off ball offensive player jokicch I would argue

927
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: is a better ball handler too, although I can at

928
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: least see that one closer. The one thing I agree

929
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: with you is, yeah, you're right, Giannis is EON's better

930
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: than Yokic defensively. But I think I disagree with just

931
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: about everything else you said. Another great Jason, what do

932
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: you think Detroit needs to be a top five team

933
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: in the East. Their ceiling looks higher with Thompson back

934
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: in the lineup. Would you be targeting a stretch forward

935
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: or more high motor center to pair with Ivan Cunningham

936
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: did a little bit of Pistons talk in the show

937
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: on Tuesday morning, so you guys, Pistons fans will want

938
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Speaker 1: to get back over and see that. The big thing

939
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: that I'm looking at here is I want upgraded versions

940
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: of Malik Beasley and Tim Hardaway Junior. That game against

941
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: the Heat is such a great example of what happens

942
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: when you put aggressive shooting next to Caid. Kate is

943
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 1: just so good at hunting shooters. You stole that game

944
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: by just finding the hot hand and Tim Hardaway Junior

945
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 1: over and over and over again.

946
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 2: Right.

947
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: So it's one of those things where like if you

948
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,439
Speaker 1: go go into the draft and you start looking for

949
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: off ball scoring like six seven to six nine wings

950
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 1: that defend, rebound and can knock down an open shot,

951
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: but like aggressively knock down an open shot. Those are

952
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 1: the kinds of guys that are going to really raise

953
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: the ceiling of this group. And it kind of coincides

954
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: with their plans, right Like upper lottery draft picks, that's

955
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: where you get like star prospects, right, but in that

956
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: mid lottery and that like seven to fifteen range, that's

957
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: where you can find some pretty high level role players.

958
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: That's where Detroit needs to start hunting for that type

959
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: of off ball talent.

960
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 2: Would winning the.

961
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: NBA Cup solidify their game for regular season MVP for

962
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: Yannis or Sga or is that a non factor and

963
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: they will likely not outmatch the yoker the joker. Here's

964
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 1: the thing, It's going to be a total season case,

965
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 1: but there's no doubt that an MVP for Giannis Orche

966
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Speaker 1: would be a feather in that cap when the time comes.

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Speaker 1: Two more quick ones. A bit of a random question

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Speaker 1: based on the video, but the Spurs currently have exactly

969
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: a five hundred record but aren't even in the play

970
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: in as a Spurs fan, I would like to know

971
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 1: would it be better for them to have a round

972
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: of a round playoff experience or first round draft pick

973
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,760
Speaker 1: this year. In general, I'm a big believer in building

974
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: basketball culture, meaning like it would absolutely be better for

975
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: you to try to win and try to get into

976
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 1: the playoffs and try to compete even if you don't

977
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: think you can win the title, because it's part of

978
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: the culture. Like winning has to be the number one goal,

979
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: it needs to be the entire identity of your franchise.

980
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: And the only way you can do that is if

981
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: you intentionally go about the process of winning every single day,

982
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: even if it might hurt your draft position by one

983
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: or two points. It's one thing if you're not going

984
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs and you're not even close to

985
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: making the playoffs and you're just trying to tank, but

986
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: like if you're on the fringe, I always think you

987
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 1: should go for it. Last question, what are your thoughts

988
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: on the new All Star game format? Is the All

989
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: Star Game dead And for those of you guys that can't see,

990
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: They're gonna split the guys into three teams and then

991
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,959
Speaker 1: like one of the young teams play and then they're

992
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 1: basically gonna do like semi finals and finals games to forty.

993
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: It's a good idea, but it's only gonna work if

994
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 1: the guys compete, So whether or not they compete will

995
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: end up being the determining factor, and there's only one

996
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: way to find out. We gotta try it optimistic, but

997
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: we'll see when we get there. All right, guys, that's

998
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: all I have for today, is always it. Sincerely appreciate

999
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: you guys for supporting me and supporting the show. We

1000
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: will be back on Monday morning without power rankings.

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Speaker 2: I will see you guys.

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Speaker 1: That the volume