Speaker 1: And it's Drink Chas motherfucking podcast. He's a legendary queen's rapper.
Speaker 1: He's like, that's your boy in o R. He's a
Speaker 1: Miami hippoper pioneer us d j e f N. Together
Speaker 1: they drinking up with some of the biggest players in
Speaker 1: the most professional unprofessional podcast and your number one sorts
Speaker 1: for drunk drinks mother is New Year's e Just time
Speaker 1: for drink Champs. Drink up mother, motherfuck? What did good
Speaker 1: be hope of this want should be? This is your
Speaker 1: boy in a oh a A what up is dj
Speaker 1: e FN And it's a type of crazy role drink chaps,
Speaker 1: yappy motherfucking our making up? And I broad up now
Speaker 1: something before we have now the people that's here, you
Speaker 1: was on vacation. He was on vacation. And so before
Speaker 1: we get into that, and also say two verses, one
Speaker 1: for math and one for the Drinks Champs album never
Speaker 1: making we're making up to get into all that. I
Speaker 1: wanted to say happy birthday to to our friend Russ.
Speaker 1: Where come on, happy gooder thing, good good friend Russ.
Speaker 1: But right now what I like to say, this is
Speaker 1: one of the hottest podcasts on the street. They arguing
Speaker 1: they started controversy. I was so happy they see them
Speaker 1: and I'm so proud to introduce my extra to pinion
Speaker 1: on Motherfucker drinks. Man, I can't I can't. You know, Math,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you, Math, like I brag
Speaker 1: about you. I brag about you because you're one of
Speaker 1: the people who actually listen to And I'll be like, ye,
Speaker 1: let this should be working. I'll be scared to give him.
Speaker 1: I don't want to not work, no more so. But guys,
Speaker 1: you guys have been on a road. How did how did?
Speaker 1: How did we come here? Because I felt it feels
Speaker 1: like the show. Let speak about the show. It feels
Speaker 1: like the show. This is like it's third leg, like
Speaker 1: it's a third different iteration. Yeah, like yes, and so
Speaker 1: so it described to the people who who well, first,
Speaker 1: I want to say, part of me even getting here
Speaker 1: was you believing that's right. You know, I was the
Speaker 1: first battle rapping. I was the first battle rapper drinking,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And and just knowing that
Speaker 1: you had that type of um belief in what I
Speaker 1: was doing and you put me on the platform that
Speaker 1: you've had. Na's so many like so many legends. That
Speaker 1: gave me a lot of energy to just go back
Speaker 1: in and keep it going, you know. I mean, and
Speaker 1: I found a good crew and we're here now. How
Speaker 1: did we get here though, because I remember it felt
Speaker 1: like it was a different crew in the beginning. And
Speaker 1: then the girl that was one of the things that
Speaker 1: that you told me told me to do, I did that.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Misfit. You know, that's still a homie.
Speaker 1: But she went on. She had she created her own
Speaker 1: platforms and we're working on something with her now for
Speaker 1: the future. Um. Yeah, and there was knowledge shout the
Speaker 1: knowledge hip hop is real. You know, he still covers
Speaker 1: all the battle rap events and all that stuff, like
Speaker 1: he's the number one in that field. Shout the Uncle
Speaker 1: Rod also, and yeah, after that, it was kind of like,
Speaker 1: you know, just just finding the right niche, you know,
Speaker 1: with a with a barbershop. Every time you walk into barbershop,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna see the same person. So, you know,
Speaker 1: it was like that for a little while. But I
Speaker 1: feel like I got a good squad now and we're here,
Speaker 1: ye here man, the flowers off top. Give you all
Speaker 1: your flowers, man, y'all deserve your flowers. Let's get your
Speaker 1: flowers and we could have gavest fucking sucks. It's right
Speaker 1: and righting you God damn it, Jesus, we had to
Speaker 1: see We had to see it all the gather you
Speaker 1: got us. We don't look like experts at all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jesus Jesus did. Come on, Come on, but I want
Speaker 1: to say the uh you literally giving you your flowers?
Speaker 1: Come on? You know what it is to be in
Speaker 1: the trench? Yes, yeah, yes, sixty, I'm good. Yes, is real? Wow?
Speaker 1: So let me so let me ask you, matheo. Right,
Speaker 1: you're coming from a journalistic background, right, and you now
Speaker 1: happen to be critiqued, right because there's people who's gonna
Speaker 1: have an opinion on you the same way you had
Speaker 1: opinions on it. Is that something when it flips on you?
Speaker 1: Is it something that you don't know? First of all? Um,
Speaker 1: he was getting picked at at the source all the time. Really,
Speaker 1: God forbid you rate an album if if this is
Speaker 1: your favorite rapper, y'all talk about that the other day.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry because he don't really gave itself for that.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about love. I'm sorry. I'm sorry your brain fart.
Speaker 1: Didn't you think we didn't get criticized for that. No,
Speaker 1: I did not go back then. Y'all didn't have Instagram
Speaker 1: and Twitter and like that. So it's different actually outside,
Speaker 1: and I was outside, actually outside. So for the longest
Speaker 1: time my name was Mecca from the source, everybody knew
Speaker 1: what so I think you saved under my phone. This
Speaker 1: is fuck up? Here we go, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 1: So all the drama you had to source is that
Speaker 1: where you started doing martial arts. Here we go trying
Speaker 1: to figure out with his cokebone really has you know
Speaker 1: what it is? Made my bones in there? I'm not
Speaker 1: mad at it. But at the same time, if you
Speaker 1: ask me if critique is something new, it's really not.
Speaker 1: I had your favorite, your favorite rappers. Fans were mad
Speaker 1: us for whatever reason. Old bottle man, we can we
Speaker 1: can get your old bottle, sir. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Come on, we get money over here. Man. You try
Speaker 1: to know it's not new, right, You're not doing at all.
Speaker 1: If I said something bad about No Reas album, you
Speaker 1: think his fans wouldn't show up. I thought if all
Speaker 1: your fans thought everything you did was classic and we
Speaker 1: gave you four and a half, we had to hear it.
Speaker 1: Somebody was pulling up to say something. So that's not
Speaker 1: new at all. Get it to your wife. That's that's
Speaker 1: the property to do it. That's right. That's not doing
Speaker 1: at all, bro. So now I want to ask you
Speaker 1: something because something that came up on the show. Right,
Speaker 1: I know you have a coach relationship with Busta Rounds,
Speaker 1: one of my great friends. Right, and say you know
Speaker 1: and um, at one point you have read the villain, right.
Speaker 1: I don't remember what he said, but he says something
Speaker 1: plenty he said, So how do you cross that line?
Speaker 1: Balance it between you and Buster? Because me working with
Speaker 1: somebody who I respect versus their personal relationship are two
Speaker 1: totally separate things. It's the same. It's the same, Bro.
Speaker 1: How many people have your man had beef with that?
Speaker 1: You didn't have beef with I get that, but not
Speaker 1: bust the Rise, Right. You're not getting away that. I
Speaker 1: mean I didn't. There was nothing to really get away from.
Speaker 1: He had not been working together for years. So me
Speaker 1: going to him and saying, listen, this is what this
Speaker 1: is what happened, and I talked to math about it.
Speaker 1: We had a big, long conversation about the whole thing.
Speaker 1: But I wasn't working with Bus when he was dealing
Speaker 1: with Reek, so I don't know what their business relationship was.
Speaker 1: I don't know what their personal relationship was. I'm free
Speaker 1: to that man's truth is that man's truth buster as
Speaker 1: his own version of that story. And no one is
Speaker 1: develling in their own story. So whoever's telling the story,
Speaker 1: they're a good guy in it. And I want to say,
Speaker 1: shout out the Bus. He got mad at you too,
Speaker 1: but he hasn't been on the show. I noticed about
Speaker 1: the world I late though. I like, I'm a patty dude,
Speaker 1: But what it happens, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm sure people come on this platform, they see certain
Speaker 1: things and then it comes out and then your phone
Speaker 1: is right. He's like, Yo, how you let that guy
Speaker 1: say that? And it's like, Yo, what do you mean
Speaker 1: how they let him? Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. The
Speaker 1: biggest version of that recently journalism. Journalism might be tougher
Speaker 1: than hip hop, like on the law, they don't hear
Speaker 1: you both. But I'm having this is I've been the
Speaker 1: hip hop making music for twenty years and I've only
Speaker 1: been this going on seven ye and the controversy when
Speaker 1: when something goes wrong, it's a bad day. You guys
Speaker 1: got black Twitter, I assume, yeah, Yeah, I love black Twitter.
Speaker 1: I love the negative ship, I love the positives. But
Speaker 1: when I'm going through something, I can't go on black
Speaker 1: two much too much. Did you receive slack for for
Speaker 1: the Troy a Half interview? Not just Troy av It
Speaker 1: was a lot still besides besides the Troy ship, it
Speaker 1: was that that situation with Buster. Yeah, it was shout
Speaker 1: to shout out to self service. You know, he told
Speaker 1: the story about just Blade getting slapped and I got
Speaker 1: a bunch of phone calls about that, not from just Blaze,
Speaker 1: not from just place shot, but shot. But just what
Speaker 1: are people saying when you're getting these phone calls? They
Speaker 1: are they saying like you shouldn't have that's there? I
Speaker 1: didn't see that. And sometimes, you know, my my thing
Speaker 1: is um unchecked Live becomes the truth. And I'm not
Speaker 1: saying anybody came on my platform lying. I'm saying, if
Speaker 1: you feel like there went another way, you know, this
Speaker 1: is entertainment, the same way this person came to the
Speaker 1: shop and then you know they told their story, you
Speaker 1: can tell your story. Also, my issue is when people
Speaker 1: get upset and then they ignore it like they're above
Speaker 1: it when they're not above it. Because you're upset. If
Speaker 1: you're upset, you're not above it. You know, there's certain
Speaker 1: things that don't bother me anymore because I'm above it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But if it's it's irking me,
Speaker 1: then you should. You should just set that straight, whether
Speaker 1: it's my platform or Drake Champs or whatever platform you
Speaker 1: want to go on. But don't just let us sit
Speaker 1: and get mad at me for it, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I understand if if Styles has something to say.
Speaker 1: After the Jadehood joint and then a lot of people
Speaker 1: called me, it was like, yeah, I could have told
Speaker 1: you that. I'm like, then why didn't you? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? You know what I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you like it's like with no disrespect, Like I
Speaker 1: could never ever even think about interview in Cuban Lank
Speaker 1: right because of my relationship with Fat Joe. It's just
Speaker 1: it's just it's just it's no disrespect to him. I
Speaker 1: have no beef, I have no quarrel, but I'm with Joe.
Speaker 1: It's just just simple and why I don't another No,
Speaker 1: I can't interview Greek because of the same thing. My
Speaker 1: relationship with Buster is too crazy. He's told me so.
Speaker 1: In that situation, if I was to have either of
Speaker 1: those two brothers on, I would be wrong. But that's
Speaker 1: personal wrong as a friend. As media really, as media,
Speaker 1: we're supposed to be a whole thing person. It's supposed
Speaker 1: to be a whole media. I'm supposed to be a
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like remember that at all?
Speaker 1: For me, they are certain things did did you know? Okay?
Speaker 1: You know my my moral standard couldn't allow somebody who
Speaker 1: presented paper work on someone to come on the platform
Speaker 1: just reckless. And if you came on the platform and
Speaker 1: you said something reckless like I would be responsible for
Speaker 1: that because I already saw it. You know. It's not drinking.
Speaker 1: You know I'm drinking. It was bade, come on, you
Speaker 1: know what that was? That was the thing like you know, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: give me something Cuban punt like I love those guys
Speaker 1: back in the days. But when you see certain things,
Speaker 1: it's like you got you never did that because now
Speaker 1: it's like to me, if you have a relationship with
Speaker 1: styles and y'all was talking like that, then you would
Speaker 1: be wrong. But if y'all have a regular industry relationship,
Speaker 1: like when you see each other, you're just a fan of,
Speaker 1: they're just a fan of. You didn't understand, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. But once that relationship is like I remember,
Speaker 1: I remember Nos getting mad at me right over over
Speaker 1: me hanging with Mega and I'm thought Nas at the time,
Speaker 1: I thought Nas would wouldn't even care, but he had
Speaker 1: expressed the feeling that like or I like that, I
Speaker 1: like that was together, that was together. But and at
Speaker 1: that time I didn't agree with him nothing. And I
Speaker 1: don't know if you've ever seen this video John Blaze,
Speaker 1: And if you ever look at the video, John Blaze,
Speaker 1: that's the day we squashed it. And if you notice,
Speaker 1: I got the microphone and I'm in the background like this,
Speaker 1: because I really didn't understand him until recently, Like I
Speaker 1: didn't understand that my loyalty was supposed to be there,
Speaker 1: like it was never supposed to be questioned. I was
Speaker 1: supposed to never especially at that moment I've seen you
Speaker 1: had on the show. What you know, I can't break
Speaker 1: it down because you know, it's a little stress. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying, but but what made you feel like, okay,
Speaker 1: for these reasons, he wasn't supposed to do do that?
Speaker 1: What are the reasons? Well, the reason was at that time,
Speaker 1: he wanted that loyalty. He wanted he wanted me to
Speaker 1: show that I was loyal to him. Actually ahead of time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: actually actually kind of did no, no, no, no. I
Speaker 1: found out after it was like it was like whatever
Speaker 1: a picture was. And then I found out that he
Speaker 1: didn't like us taking a picture. Right, that's differ. But
Speaker 1: that's tough because then you you know, you over there
Speaker 1: being like, okay, I can't talk to you because my
Speaker 1: friend is mad at you, and then they become friends.
Speaker 1: But that person still remembers. But when that happened to me,
Speaker 1: I got I was upset. So I'm trying to say,
Speaker 1: is if I'm mad at somebody, shoot, I don't want
Speaker 1: nobody around that motherfucker man who was But I was
Speaker 1: saying that's just general. It was life, that's your mind, life, man.
Speaker 1: I could be mad at anybody. I just at the time,
Speaker 1: I'm so loyal I expect everyone to just fall in
Speaker 1: line into that to my line. Loyal and and it
Speaker 1: just doesn't have that and with this, with with with
Speaker 1: this something totally different, because honestly a system now the
Speaker 1: nowl on the coffin. It's like when Kanye called, did
Speaker 1: we know he was gonna be on some crazy ship? Nah?
Speaker 1: I mean that's not totally true. Well you did then
Speaker 1: come out of the the clouds, come out. We talked about it.
Speaker 1: You see my post before you got in contact with Kanye. No,
Speaker 1: because the minute I heard that end of you got canceled. No. No,
Speaker 1: not not that one, the one we went on Lebron's platform.
Speaker 1: Once I found out that they wasn't putting that out,
Speaker 1: I was all over Instagram, like Yo, Kanyea, we're gonna
Speaker 1: do that. And then I saw you guy. I was like,
Speaker 1: damn no, that was That was rough fun, man. That
Speaker 1: was a rough fun because I kind of wish you
Speaker 1: didn't take it down though, you know, I gotta stand
Speaker 1: by it because it was actually him who requested it.
Speaker 1: Take it taken down, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And you know, and we were between a rock and
Speaker 1: hard prison and and Revolts still with us, and they said,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna edit this. It either stays up, it
Speaker 1: comes down. So we had one choice, you know, one
Speaker 1: of two choices. Are you working with? No, we are
Speaker 1: the number one independent in the world. I'm saying talking man,
Speaker 1: we were talking. Ain't happen yet, ain't not happened. I
Speaker 1: know people were throwing that out. There's false information. Don't
Speaker 1: believe them. Don't believe them. They're unreliable sources. How about
Speaker 1: how about you? You? What do you feel about independent?
Speaker 1: On Masia? Independent? Um? I feel independent always the right
Speaker 1: way to go because you get to bill your own narrative.
Speaker 1: You know, when you go with major, you're going with
Speaker 1: someone else's narrative. Not really, Yeah, you know know what
Speaker 1: I say I say in other cases. Yes, when Puff
Speaker 1: Puff's case, I was surprised, did you did the Kanye
Speaker 1: thing after everything that was going on to go back
Speaker 1: to Kanye and trying to get off that keep pushing
Speaker 1: Kanye than keep saying that verse so as exist. But
Speaker 1: I was I was surprised because of what they went
Speaker 1: through both um with Kanye, what he was saying about
Speaker 1: Puff listen honest, but yeah, tell him because this would
Speaker 1: be honest. Year we ever worked with, he's never called
Speaker 1: us about an episode this. They called me on FaceTime
Speaker 1: with the ship playing You'll play Boy, and then he
Speaker 1: was like, he was like, so, I'm thinking he's gonna
Speaker 1: scream on me, Like, how are you gonna let this
Speaker 1: guy say this this? It's a part of you that
Speaker 1: like fun that he because he can't have none our creativity.
Speaker 1: He can't be a part of it. That's what we are.
Speaker 1: We we like I don't know if you if you
Speaker 1: the verse I just said, I said, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: feeling good. So what did I say? What did I say?
Speaker 1: I said, I said it sounds like some old camera. No,
Speaker 1: you gotta stand on, stay in there like a tampon,
Speaker 1: I said, rap podcast millionaire, I'm the first one before me.
Speaker 1: They get their youtubees for free, the I p o
Speaker 1: S they ain't own, only me and E. And that's
Speaker 1: gonna be another conversation I'm gonna have with you right
Speaker 1: after the show. We got you, man, But hold on,
Speaker 1: hold up, But be clear, nobody is truly independent unless
Speaker 1: we own these distribution platforms with nobody here you partner
Speaker 1: with with with YouTube or whatever. I'm needed is distributing
Speaker 1: to Apple and all these people. That's that's the problem.
Speaker 1: What was it really independent? I would say yeah with
Speaker 1: you with YouTube somewhat, but it's still not a uh
Speaker 1: well then I guess they do kind of they can't.
Speaker 1: They can take you down a partnership if you got
Speaker 1: to see those agreements and played by their rules, that's
Speaker 1: a partnership. Listen, I'm not gonna lie to you. I'm
Speaker 1: ready to sell out. Started relaxing with new partnership. Congratulations, Yes,
Speaker 1: just keep cracking them doors man, I'm gonna be honest. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is this, this is bad. This was this was
Speaker 1: one of our you know, great moves. It's a great move.
Speaker 1: I'll be partnering with some good people. And they showed
Speaker 1: us that they wanted us if you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: What that so? How much how much control do they
Speaker 1: what kind of control do they want to exercise over
Speaker 1: your hunts? You know about the thing about drink chat
Speaker 1: stroke that they could end the deal if they want to.
Speaker 1: But we're on the content. We just licensed with that
Speaker 1: in mind, I like, how y'a flipping it on us
Speaker 1: right now? Yeah, we don't know what's going on with
Speaker 1: that in mind? How how what's the what's the hardest
Speaker 1: part about interview with somebody who's where it's going to
Speaker 1: be difficult. We're gonna say something super I mean, you
Speaker 1: know what, at the end of the day, you know,
Speaker 1: we wanted to get back to like me and yeah,
Speaker 1: we hardly ever speak just me and him. It's always
Speaker 1: like someone's on the phone. And one time we were
Speaker 1: just spoken years yeah, I know this sucking ship we
Speaker 1: want us and we just said, yeo, let's get back
Speaker 1: to the legends, man, like, let's you know, sometimes we
Speaker 1: started to chase I don't want to say click baby.
Speaker 1: We started to chase those those those so much things
Speaker 1: that's happened moment and we're gonna take those two. You know,
Speaker 1: I got these relationships with these people, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't help it, but I want to
Speaker 1: get back to the cool hirks like I love it. Y'all.
Speaker 1: Have Mellie scared of me? Never used to give me
Speaker 1: a five. I've never said this story. I've been wanting
Speaker 1: to say this forever. Millie mill has never gave me
Speaker 1: a five. And the first time I gave me a
Speaker 1: five is after drink Champ started. I swear to God,
Speaker 1: I swear like I said, when you have Millie mill
Speaker 1: and Grandmaster cast on there, I'm like you know. That's
Speaker 1: what That's what me and Finn is about, Like, Yo,
Speaker 1: let's let's give these props to you know, the cool hirks.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying to people that you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, and especially why our platform is as
Speaker 1: high as it can be, Like this is really dope
Speaker 1: what we're doing. We're giving back, Like I remember, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to blow people up because I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I remember me interviewing certain people and they calling
Speaker 1: me like, yo, I'm getting shows again. Like I'm like, like,
Speaker 1: that was my that was my I was like what
Speaker 1: words like like just being on this show and then
Speaker 1: they could get to go back outside, and it's like
Speaker 1: that's that's my reward, you know what I'm saying. That
Speaker 1: feels so good, Like all right, somebody comes to Mike's
Speaker 1: for opinion. For the next two weeks, the phone is
Speaker 1: ringing and they'll call me and be like, yo, I
Speaker 1: didn't know. I'm like yo, I feel like we're doing
Speaker 1: what we're supposed to do. But getting back to the styles.
Speaker 1: I just met him like five times and he never
Speaker 1: looked me in my face. And for me, that's a thing,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean, it's like somebody dapping
Speaker 1: you and they're looking in the other direction. Yo, let's something.
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold you know what I mean. But you
Speaker 1: know it's just got to fix you in Styles. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: we don't got issues. We spoke olverad, we spoke already.
Speaker 1: But um, I spoke the Styles, I spoke the Sheet,
Speaker 1: and I offered for Sheet to come on the platform.
Speaker 1: I can see that and talk about it. We'll see
Speaker 1: what happens in the future. But yeah, I was just
Speaker 1: real unfortunate. I feel like the bond that they had
Speaker 1: and how they felt towards jay Hood and kind of
Speaker 1: got caught in the mix of it because with these interviews,
Speaker 1: when we're sitting here, we're getting people's life stories, were
Speaker 1: getting Internet moments. You don't connected to that person, I
Speaker 1: mean your artists. And at one point he was beating
Speaker 1: with Serious Jones. Like at that point when things got real,
Speaker 1: anybody that would have stood next to the Serious Jones
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have. It wasn't It wasn't okay. I mean
Speaker 1: we saw something on a live, nice little party out there.
Speaker 1: You know it was cool now now yeah he locked
Speaker 1: up right now? Yeah, But um, you know how that
Speaker 1: it is sometimes I can see because you know why.
Speaker 1: The difference between that with jay Hood to me is
Speaker 1: when they were going through their turmoil, it was personal,
Speaker 1: very very personal things that was said. And I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: I'm guessing, I don't know, I'm guessing after you of
Speaker 1: course a certain line that it's it's unfixable. So and
Speaker 1: I think the Locks is so honorable that they are
Speaker 1: getting mad at anybody standing next to them because they
Speaker 1: just like you. You should believe me. Look, look, look, look,
Speaker 1: look how trustworthy I am. But out of all of them,
Speaker 1: you would expect she was going to have that reaction.
Speaker 1: But but you look at styles and where he's at
Speaker 1: in life, you know, with all the health food stuff
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of there's a lot of care. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I felt like he
Speaker 1: felt like he needed to stand up for his brother.
Speaker 1: So he went live. He said some things. I went live.
Speaker 1: I kind of put it out there, like yo, I
Speaker 1: don't have control over what these people are saying. I
Speaker 1: wasn't there. I don't know what can't be like over
Speaker 1: the edit. That's that's what you know what, Loki. I
Speaker 1: take it out if I feel like it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a big problem and I can't. I hate that. I
Speaker 1: hate that because sometimes somebody gets sucy and but like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We was gonna slap him
Speaker 1: with the hammer. I'll be like, pick that out out.
Speaker 1: We ain't putting that out. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That seeing me and trying to like be war report nor,
Speaker 1: I'm like right, but but but you know, sir, and
Speaker 1: ship like that, you gotta be responsible and be like
Speaker 1: you was hit you said that ship that could lead
Speaker 1: to a big problem. I'm not even gonna ask you
Speaker 1: about it, but you know what's up about that? Sometimes
Speaker 1: and we have to leave ship sometimes because what happens
Speaker 1: is if you throw it in the air. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you something, but throw it in the air and it
Speaker 1: doesn't get fixed or doesn't, it's gonna keep repeating itself.
Speaker 1: For instance, Swiss flipped on Drake first on drink camps.
Speaker 1: We edited it was like you remember, and we filmed
Speaker 1: the New York that was the one, and you know
Speaker 1: we we had Drake coming up. We thought we had
Speaker 1: Drake coming up. He said he put on the Graham drink.
Speaker 1: We were like, no, we're not. We can't we can't
Speaker 1: have that. And two months later, he goes on Live
Speaker 1: with Busting Rhymes and it's pretty much but no, he
Speaker 1: went he went bad with Busting. He didn't go bad
Speaker 1: on us because we were rolling. Yeah, yeah, he was
Speaker 1: controlling with and he was like, oh, so he still
Speaker 1: said what he had to say, but we controlled it
Speaker 1: to a certain extent. But then when we edited it,
Speaker 1: it was like he threw it in the universe and
Speaker 1: it didn't get corrected. So that's the reason why, just
Speaker 1: like you could you could because he's thewist and Busts
Speaker 1: are talking and then they're not even talking about nothing.
Speaker 1: This is what He's a black white like I don't
Speaker 1: know what would kids a plane? He like waited minutes
Speaker 1: west and I remember it. It's like, damn, it's kind
Speaker 1: of like my fault because I edited in it. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: I edited it. You know what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1: You didn't get that off. So I felt like he
Speaker 1: felt like he didn't get it all. And because like,
Speaker 1: if you go back and look at that stuff, so
Speaker 1: what do you do because you you you thought Drake
Speaker 1: was coming on the show. Yes, that's not the reason
Speaker 1: why we edit that. That's not the reason it was.
Speaker 1: I don't I mean, I don't quite remember asked us
Speaker 1: to take it out, but that was this reason. I
Speaker 1: was like, yes, we're taking it out right because what
Speaker 1: did he say? Right back around and said something he said,
Speaker 1: he said worse said, what's the he said way worse
Speaker 1: that time that. See, listen, journalism is different. You error
Speaker 1: on the side of your conscious. I understand if you
Speaker 1: don't want to get somebody him up in the shop
Speaker 1: when we're doing on one too. And by the way,
Speaker 1: I'm learning on the job, I'm being I got you
Speaker 1: on that. Know. All the journalists shout out to everybody.
Speaker 1: We sit back and you we we see the mistakes
Speaker 1: that are being made. It's it's not a problem to
Speaker 1: error on the side of your conscious because real things happen.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, somebody say something, it reverberates the families, they
Speaker 1: get involved. Hip hop is in a very different place.
Speaker 1: People get shot, way more often, people get killed. You
Speaker 1: have to rock with your conscious. Lord knows, if I
Speaker 1: was in charge, you're not could go back and take
Speaker 1: something out that Pop said that might have kept him alive.
Speaker 1: Take something out that Biggie said that might have kept
Speaker 1: him you know, on the side of your conscious you
Speaker 1: do that. However, this is somebody's story. You don't have
Speaker 1: the right to put hands on somebody's story and the
Speaker 1: consequences that come from that story. That that's something that
Speaker 1: they need to be prepared to deal with you, and
Speaker 1: you can't take that away from It's not right. You
Speaker 1: can't really get in the middle of that. So if
Speaker 1: you if he comes on the here and this is
Speaker 1: his truth when Styles started talking, when we when we
Speaker 1: were talking to Styles, and he's upset that we didn't.
Speaker 1: We didn't come to him with the Jayhood situation. Bro,
Speaker 1: if you listen to that interview, jay Hood didn't address Styles.
Speaker 1: He said, really it was she. She was in charge
Speaker 1: of X, Y, and Z. These are questions for she,
Speaker 1: not stuff what I look like trying to make you
Speaker 1: answer for somebody else. But he gave a million disclaimers also,
Speaker 1: like understand the story is coming from fifteen, sixteen, seventeen
Speaker 1: year old and and and then they're twenty years ago.
Speaker 1: But most of the times and and and to correct
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, I don't know. If y'all go
Speaker 1: through this too, people will call you up beefing about
Speaker 1: a clip but they didn't even didn't even that's the
Speaker 1: one was like, yeah, it's like, yo, bro the world.
Speaker 1: So somebody just ran to you and was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: they did. You just picked up the phone and just
Speaker 1: called me. One time. One time, we just had clips
Speaker 1: out and I'm at the airport and the the guys telling
Speaker 1: me he saw the episode, and I'm like, you didn't
Speaker 1: see the episode and he's like, yeah, I saw it.
Speaker 1: He's just breaking down clips after clip after clip, and
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at this guy and I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: you didn't see this episode out? And uh, yeah, that
Speaker 1: that's that's that's had a guy get mad at me
Speaker 1: and say that I need to stop talking over the guests.
Speaker 1: And it was super obvious that what he watched was
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes before we actually start filming. We
Speaker 1: have like these wild arguments and just wild debates, and
Speaker 1: we keep them. He saw that he saw a barbershop
Speaker 1: argument and thought that, yo, you'll be talking over the
Speaker 1: guests all the time. I don't shut the funk up, Yo,
Speaker 1: No ship you thinking you're the smartest person. Mean, while
Speaker 1: we four separate conversations going on. Once we got started,
Speaker 1: all right, we're back, they called me cut off like
Speaker 1: cut off. You get that with victims of you know people,
Speaker 1: you know where the lions get blury and what you're
Speaker 1: saying about not editing. For example, for us here the
Speaker 1: drinking aspects, there's a point where we never used to
Speaker 1: edit at all. Never we learned some lessons down you
Speaker 1: want to learn these. Let me just actually want to
Speaker 1: take this time out to apologize to Missy. Missy, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I love your music. Last time I was here said
Speaker 1: something about Missy towards the end of the episode. Of course,
Speaker 1: everybody apologize later was drunk on drink chance. Oh they
Speaker 1: had me drinking. I'm like thinking we were drinking together,
Speaker 1: but I don't even know how we got on the subject,
Speaker 1: but somehow that came out. You need to get that
Speaker 1: all the way. But that's that. I feel like we
Speaker 1: have a response when we're indn't here drinking for four
Speaker 1: hours and someone starts talking a little crazy, I think
Speaker 1: we do have a responsibility to that person. Okay, So
Speaker 1: because we're here to protect the guests, we're here to
Speaker 1: we're here to celebrate the guests. We're not here for
Speaker 1: them to fund themselves up. But you also every now
Speaker 1: and then you also, you gotta let go crazy, right? What? Absolutely? Okay?
Speaker 1: Hold on, you got so bad? He walked over there.
Speaker 1: We've been piping here for seven years. I've never even
Speaker 1: knew that really existed. Time. I was like, what the
Speaker 1: smoking up? Yo? He was Yo, yeah, big big up
Speaker 1: the mc shaft. Yeah, I'm just still you're coming from
Speaker 1: with that. I interviewed somebody before. I'm not going yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: you good. I interviewed somebody before and shok TV, thank you.
Speaker 1: So I interviewed this dude. He's talking, he's giving these
Speaker 1: great background stories, like a fake legend in the game too.
Speaker 1: And he said something about one super popular rapper m
Speaker 1: and I said, Bro, who wasn't I don't believe that.
Speaker 1: Who wasn't? Who wasn't? Who was it? Who was the rapper?
Speaker 1: He talked about what you talked about fifty something about
Speaker 1: fifty And I was like, that's not going to this magazine, bro,
Speaker 1: because that's not happening because we all didn't believe it.
Speaker 1: We all didn't believe it. And what do you say? No?
Speaker 1: Did you what he say? Second? Now? But he said
Speaker 1: something some wild ship and the same thing with me,
Speaker 1: like it was its trialing error with me, feel me
Speaker 1: like coming from prison and getting right into it. It's
Speaker 1: trialing error. So we're sitting here listening. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm asking what you think about there, Like, now I
Speaker 1: don't believe that? Yeah, cut, I'll say you let's wait
Speaker 1: till no, no no, no, not time out. Did you challenge
Speaker 1: him to say I don't believe that because X Y
Speaker 1: as the A, B and C. Yeah that's so now,
Speaker 1: I said, because the history of this man and how
Speaker 1: I know this man, I know the people surrounding him
Speaker 1: at that time. No, that didn't happen, bro, say some
Speaker 1: crazy ship what he said? Bro, My point is you
Speaker 1: don't edit it. You don't edit it. No, No, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't you have the same responsible to that person that Yo,
Speaker 1: if I go in the bar, drink my ass off
Speaker 1: hot behind the wheel and kill somebody, is the bartender
Speaker 1: in trouble? No? Yeah, kind of yeah, direcular responsible. Get
Speaker 1: drunk at the hotel. If you get drunk at the
Speaker 1: hotel and you leave that hotel, your family can sued him.
Speaker 1: I didn't say drunk. I said he drinks his asshole, Okay.
Speaker 1: I was super specific. I said drunk. Okay, because you
Speaker 1: don't need to be drunk to get in an accident
Speaker 1: and sucking hurt. Somebody said something, but no, I don't wait, Mecca.
Speaker 1: So you've written, You've written stuff when people said crazy
Speaker 1: ship and you let it go. And I've had the
Speaker 1: answer for you. Never you had the answer for you.
Speaker 1: You had to school. Did you go to school for journalists? No?
Speaker 1: I learned. I learned from the masters. I feel like
Speaker 1: real true like purist journalists. They feel the way you feel.
Speaker 1: We don't. We're not journalists stick integrity and morals that
Speaker 1: you gotta go, which is which is why I'm not
Speaker 1: judging you know what I'm saying, which is why I'm here,
Speaker 1: which is why I don't. I'm not shipping on you.
Speaker 1: I call it snow judgment and anything I'm saying, I'm
Speaker 1: telling you what my stances and why you think what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I take into account the fact that
Speaker 1: you guys us have a different level of responsibility now
Speaker 1: because of the platform, because there's alcohol involved, because it's
Speaker 1: so quick and it goes right to the people. People
Speaker 1: are gonna talk without clips, and they're people who want
Speaker 1: to do something for clickbait. So you gotta take that
Speaker 1: in mind. He could be blatantly lying. Do you think
Speaker 1: what I'm saying? So I understand all of the above.
Speaker 1: With that said, I think about editing in terms of
Speaker 1: who it's going to offend. And in my mind, I
Speaker 1: got a O G who always takes me back to
Speaker 1: when Emmett Till was killed his mother let them shoot
Speaker 1: his body the way it was. You got way too deep, brother,
Speaker 1: It's gonna offend somebody. But that's the truth. You don't
Speaker 1: I'm not okay, what are you trying to go? What
Speaker 1: you're saying? I do think that that's way deeper than what.
Speaker 1: Yeah we're talking. You know, so who when? When? Wouldn't
Speaker 1: it be easier if you just didn't have to think
Speaker 1: about ship like that and just let it fly? Yeah,
Speaker 1: here's the difference, and tell you all right now, we
Speaker 1: come from different backgrounds from Mecca, right, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: Mecca is a professional in journalism and what he does us.
Speaker 1: But let me where I come from. But it's totally different.
Speaker 1: So me walking outside knowing that things are going on
Speaker 1: the street, me me having one ft in one ft out.
Speaker 1: When I do certain things, I know I listen. Nah,
Speaker 1: we can't do that. So it's two different things. He's
Speaker 1: a professional journalist, So I'm gonna tell you to do
Speaker 1: it in the streets. That's why I'm gonnaperate from your conscience.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you why. We kind of know better.
Speaker 1: And I know better because I have one of the
Speaker 1: only fifty cent interviews without a jar rule word being spoke,
Speaker 1: one of the only fifty cent interviews without Earth Gotti.
Speaker 1: And let's flip it back, I have also the only
Speaker 1: Rule Gotti interviews without being mentioned. I avoided it on purpose,
Speaker 1: so I knew that I got. I got that intelligence,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because I got a relationship
Speaker 1: with both. I'm the only dude the job in the
Speaker 1: in the beginning, in the middle, and still now. So
Speaker 1: so you had that conversation before they know, I had myself,
Speaker 1: and I said, they ain't funny to me, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like I'm gonna ask about funny beef.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna ask about ship that led to other
Speaker 1: ship that nah. So I just avoided that period, and
Speaker 1: I swear to God I always that's something I take
Speaker 1: pride in, you know what I'm saying. And even that's
Speaker 1: the part we edited it, Uh, God, he got a
Speaker 1: little lit and he called the y'all assault man. We
Speaker 1: were like all that going and we avoided it. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean, because because because at times you're right,
Speaker 1: we shouldn't addit nothing, but at at times we have
Speaker 1: some type of responsibility if you know it's gonna end
Speaker 1: up later in the relationships you got with the people
Speaker 1: and their relationships. Great from your conscience, That's all I
Speaker 1: ever say. I agree with that. When I was when
Speaker 1: I was interviewing rappers day in out, Goddamn, my very
Speaker 1: first thing I would tell him I am not your fan.
Speaker 1: I'm not I am not a fan. First I told
Speaker 1: it to you, remember Jesus, like bro, I think I
Speaker 1: would have been. You would have sat down right here.
Speaker 1: I'm not your You have to know what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: First thing I say, Yo, I'm from Queens with seeing
Speaker 1: the ship in this space, not your fans to get
Speaker 1: the story. Yes, okay, I see where you're from. You. Yes,
Speaker 1: they don't think that I'm gonna paint you in rose
Speaker 1: colored glass. You are meeting literally that you're not there fan.
Speaker 1: You're just saying this moment, yeah, this moment, a moment, yeah,
Speaker 1: like man is out crazy as soon as we get outside,
Speaker 1: I might take a picture because it's my god, seeing that.
Speaker 1: I got that. I know what you're saying. However, they
Speaker 1: don't pay me to be for dad. But that's what's crazy,
Speaker 1: and paid that's what's crazy. That's what started this is
Speaker 1: we were were fans. Like if you noticed, when we
Speaker 1: first started this, I didn't know research. No, we didn't
Speaker 1: do any research. I didn't do because I'm like, what
Speaker 1: the might ask frat Joe, what kind I google about him?
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, Like I noticed his moms,
Speaker 1: I know he's working, his wife, I know everything. Because
Speaker 1: then when I started to realize, I said, you know what,
Speaker 1: Google is your friend, and I would google certain ship
Speaker 1: like like like and I would research people like and
Speaker 1: that's becoming like fun to me now, like my research.
Speaker 1: When I researched Turky, Oh my god, I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: this this is gonna be a great yea. And let
Speaker 1: me just tell you something. We edited nothing of him,
Speaker 1: even when he's talked crazy because he said this everywhere else,
Speaker 1: so I didn't feel obligated. That's that's the good thing
Speaker 1: about researching people. But seems, like I said before, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't do that. So if I research you and you
Speaker 1: already said yeah, man, I was, I was gone, um
Speaker 1: trip words to five nine. That's not to say anybody
Speaker 1: said that, just making an example. First wrapper that came
Speaker 1: to my mind got a trip worse. I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: I got a relationship with works. Maybe I should take
Speaker 1: that out. But then I'm looking, you said that everywhere.
Speaker 1: It's just a platform. Ain't big enough story? How kid
Speaker 1: you not? It's been times artists has sat right there
Speaker 1: and said the same story, and I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, you said it's on black TV, you said
Speaker 1: this on such and such, But for some reason, they
Speaker 1: say it here and then it goes viral because it's
Speaker 1: to you, because you know, okay, okay, okay, So you're
Speaker 1: not you're not cool with you like that? Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: cool with Actually that's that was my own. That was
Speaker 1: my first cash money relationship was to Julie. Now, I'm
Speaker 1: the one that came to ninety seven. You could pull
Speaker 1: it up. I don't know if you can, but I
Speaker 1: was one said They're like, I'm saying, what are you singing?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't know. Because I called I
Speaker 1: called him Jovi, This dude Jovi from New Orleans. He
Speaker 1: had and then monks after Jake got on on the Remax,
Speaker 1: the record actually hit because a lot of people don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm half Latino. A lot of people don't
Speaker 1: know there's a whole Latino fucking in New Orleans. There's
Speaker 1: a whole little It's crazy because it's like they look
Speaker 1: they looked like chicos from Miami. They like they got
Speaker 1: runts and then they're like, what's up with all the
Speaker 1: like from day counting? So it sweeter or you know
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, that's serious. So I
Speaker 1: used to be in New Orleans so much. It's crazy
Speaker 1: because David Banner always picks me up and you know,
Speaker 1: he always says, he always says. Because what happened was
Speaker 1: David Bannon was froming a video and like this is
Speaker 1: the time I fucking had a show in Mississippi. I
Speaker 1: was hearing this ship. So when David man that came
Speaker 1: to me, he was unknown. He was like, yo, penalty
Speaker 1: won't give me nothing for my budget. I told him
Speaker 1: take my video budget out and gave it to him.
Speaker 1: Creaking letters, right, Cooking Letters keep saying I'm I'm so
Speaker 1: I'm so suck David. He blew up on his own
Speaker 1: bad but cooking letters. And I would do things like that,
Speaker 1: like if a lot of people don't know, like for
Speaker 1: what else from the South technically Virginia, like not technically
Speaker 1: he's from, just because I need to know, because I
Speaker 1: don't know. Y'all think it's a slip in my interview.
Speaker 1: I'm a fan. I'm not a fan, but you, um,
Speaker 1: were you responsible for featuring? For real? I mean you
Speaker 1: know that from the very beginning. I mean it's documented. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was working, he said to me. And this is
Speaker 1: the reason why I believe him, because he was, to
Speaker 1: be exact, he was a genius. I know it's so
Speaker 1: cliche to say it now because he's like he's read
Speaker 1: she's a top. But I knew it. Then he said
Speaker 1: to me, no one listens to me. That was one
Speaker 1: of the first things I wanted to do, because I
Speaker 1: wanted to I like to be petty, I like to right,
Speaker 1: no one listened. Let me listen then, and he said,
Speaker 1: the first person to listen to me is gonna go
Speaker 1: number one. And I was like, all right, and he's
Speaker 1: a little guy. I'm talking my after I got the
Speaker 1: number one record in New York City, and I know
Speaker 1: y'all are fronting on New York City right now, New
Speaker 1: York you heard the background. But at one point, when
Speaker 1: you had the number one record in New York City,
Speaker 1: that ship meant the world number one record on Anti
Speaker 1: Martinez the world, that top seven and seven. I want
Speaker 1: to five the industry record. You know. No, no, it
Speaker 1: was not from listening. It was from being stopping it
Speaker 1: to the point and it's a crazy ship with a
Speaker 1: lot of people don't know. I said this story Minia Times.
Speaker 1: Let me say three. If you're listening to Super Doug,
Speaker 1: real real good. At the end, I go in r Noriri.
Speaker 1: The remix Super Doug was a fucking remix. It's still
Speaker 1: there somewhere. And if you listen, because the album was
Speaker 1: done and it's pause, this cocky young producer with this
Speaker 1: Filipino guy, and they look at me and they say,
Speaker 1: you're not closing your album. And I don't number one,
Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm number one, But it's how they talk,
Speaker 1: it's how they delivered it. It was humble, but it
Speaker 1: was cocky. It was delivered like you can That's the
Speaker 1: word I was looking for. You can't close your album.
Speaker 1: You need this m hm, and they were right. Sorry.
Speaker 1: I was listening to our album on the way here. Sorry, sorry, um,
Speaker 1: and it was crazy. I was speaking my man JP,
Speaker 1: Eric and um Diego and I was pointing out to
Speaker 1: them how many times Nas was on our You know,
Speaker 1: Nas was on in our album five times. But I
Speaker 1: don't even think at that time A Z had two
Speaker 1: records with Nas. I Love my Life. That's him on
Speaker 1: the hook replace that's how he wrote that. He wrote
Speaker 1: stumps into this day. I've seen this other day. I
Speaker 1: was like, damn, this thing is still there's a count
Speaker 1: pick of it. Worry well, I'm trying to I'm in
Speaker 1: the process of buying the album. But um, it was crazy.
Speaker 1: He's on, He's on the story, he's on I Love
Speaker 1: my Life, and he's on two others joints, just just
Speaker 1: just talking in the background. And then he was on
Speaker 1: the firm too. Yeah. I can't. I'm done being a
Speaker 1: humble I'm gonna be honest single handed. I was telling
Speaker 1: them the story earlier that record single handedly saved my
Speaker 1: life life which one I'm leaving house? I was dead.
Speaker 1: I didn't me and trash started beefing after the War
Speaker 1: Report came out, and I literally had no manager, had
Speaker 1: no a and all I had I didn't know what
Speaker 1: to do set your solo career off. So what happened
Speaker 1: is what happened is, you know, after the poem went
Speaker 1: to jail. It's kind of crazy because Nature gave me
Speaker 1: some backstory on that too. What nature was the man
Speaker 1: let me just say no. But at the time he wasn't. Nah,
Speaker 1: that's false. He said they flew you out there. They
Speaker 1: did flew me out here his jail. Oh that's true
Speaker 1: because I was. He said, you let your verses and
Speaker 1: I had my ship room before I got damn, Like like,
Speaker 1: first of all, let me get me get deep. I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to make this about me because it's about y'all.
Speaker 1: But this is history. This is what history is, not,
Speaker 1: not the guy that's on the show. This is this guy,
Speaker 1: right the reason why. So this is what happened. Nas
Speaker 1: called me. I was like, yo, I gotta make up
Speaker 1: for missing the War report because remember if NAS was
Speaker 1: on the War Report music, make these stuffs he ain't clear.
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, that should cut us deep. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because it was on the mixtapes. Yeah, nothing. So he
Speaker 1: wanted to make up. So he was like, YO, make
Speaker 1: it up to you. Let me um, I'm gonna fly
Speaker 1: you out to Miami. So I was like, don't even
Speaker 1: other time I've been to Miami, it's with this fucking
Speaker 1: guy and DJ klor have all people right, hierronic right,
Speaker 1: the two people that hironic this this. I'm not making
Speaker 1: this up, by the way. So I never went back
Speaker 1: to Miami. I couldn't afford it. I just I ain't
Speaker 1: have it. I'm just being honest. Just back, you're laughing. Damn,
Speaker 1: it's true. It's true. So now it's never the week
Speaker 1: they go to Miami. They never called me, and whatever
Speaker 1: was Instagram back then, I had to like see that
Speaker 1: the picture. So I was like, oh, satisfied. They called
Speaker 1: me like a month later, so they're like, yo, we're
Speaker 1: gonna work. I go in true story, fly straight. I
Speaker 1: remember I told my friends this today. I won't even
Speaker 1: stay at this place. Is this universal sheraton. I won't
Speaker 1: even have a drink at the bar right now? Look
Speaker 1: Look look how far came. Huh, just person I asked,
Speaker 1: I'll keep it in the hunting. So then I love
Speaker 1: the universal Sheraton. I was like, oh, I'm balling. I
Speaker 1: guess I get to the studio Nature. I'm supposed to
Speaker 1: go to the studio on Wednesday. They fly me out
Speaker 1: on that Tuesday for Nature session. So I'm on my ship.
Speaker 1: I'm like, and God named Dr Dre walks in the room,
Speaker 1: kicks the engineer out and says, you got something for
Speaker 1: this snory and engineer that if you listen to my
Speaker 1: whole career, that's the cleanest record I've ever been on.
Speaker 1: That go I can listen to that any other record.
Speaker 1: You're gonna hear me. That motherfucker had that ship speaky clean.
Speaker 1: And I nailed it so ill that he made me
Speaker 1: do it three or four more times. He said, because
Speaker 1: no one nails it for me. And I said, all right, cool,
Speaker 1: and they, by the way, by the way, I was,
Speaker 1: I wasn't supposed to be on the firm. It was
Speaker 1: supposed to be a record, and then they just pushed
Speaker 1: it to the front. And the reason why Nature is
Speaker 1: on band from TV, it's because Nature could have hated
Speaker 1: My session was the next day. My session was Wednesday.
Speaker 1: I showed there tuesdays support him, and my thirsty ass
Speaker 1: went said, you guys something for this, you gotta pay.
Speaker 1: I was like, no, we know this, we know that,
Speaker 1: and it was ironic about it. That's why me a
Speaker 1: trash Corp beef was because that was on the War
Speaker 1: Report album. That verse that the whole song. That's not
Speaker 1: to be the whole song. This is I'm sorry, I'm
Speaker 1: remember listening too much right now. Listen, I walk into
Speaker 1: I go to this trashic co bones out with these chicks.
Speaker 1: I'm in the studio. I don't got time for chicks.
Speaker 1: I laid his whole ship. I'm leaving. But it was
Speaker 1: on to Dune, Dune, don't let it go to your head.
Speaker 1: So picture don't know this and that's why I leave.
Speaker 1: On the next thing, Oh no, it go together. And
Speaker 1: I played it and then and then I played it
Speaker 1: for compone was like, yes, it's dope and trashes. It
Speaker 1: was like, I was like this, he said, that's horrible.
Speaker 1: We sample, we sample like Havoc. We don't sample like
Speaker 1: Puff Daddy, And well, you have no idea listen, no, no,
Speaker 1: I don't know idea. How that ship hurt me. He
Speaker 1: was like, we don't sample like Puff, we sample like Havoc.
Speaker 1: And I was just like oh ship. So for me
Speaker 1: to go to dr J and this is it. You
Speaker 1: don't understand how good that's mountain? So did you go
Speaker 1: back to trash? Like I don't know what you know
Speaker 1: the world? I never? I never, And he told me
Speaker 1: years later he was like, I should listen to you.
Speaker 1: So I was like, but he was bad at the record,
Speaker 1: at the sample and the record no, the sample it
Speaker 1: was it was rudy. It was like brand and that's
Speaker 1: a big working brand Newby and took it years later
Speaker 1: and I was I definitely called him that day. He's like,
Speaker 1: I know already know what you call. Everyone knows I'm
Speaker 1: petty things like, He's like, all you know, it was
Speaker 1: a dope shout. Just did something for his album. Oh really,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's my brother be trying to do all
Speaker 1: overseas for e FN's birthday. UM played my birthday gigs
Speaker 1: I got UM. So tomorrow we're gonna get on the
Speaker 1: phone with the promoter. So we're gonna do drink Champs
Speaker 1: Europe um and you know ended in Paris. You know,
Speaker 1: I love my wife, she loves Paris. Oh yeah, so
Speaker 1: we're gonna do it. Oh really, what y'all doing in Paris.
Speaker 1: Oh you and your lady. Okay, look at one to all,
Speaker 1: one to three. Now you got ladies. Sean, you're married. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm talking about. Listen, be getting married as gangster.
Speaker 1: That's the new game in Mega. Looked the way Megan said.
Speaker 1: You just to Megan, you're going to do He said
Speaker 1: that on the show show he's trying to break up. No,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out what you'll think it has
Speaker 1: come up with this ship. But I'm not looking you
Speaker 1: look like you just think that break up. I just
Speaker 1: bought two beads and ship. Ye oh god day beats
Speaker 1: to second conversation. That's back to make up some whole ship. Man.
Speaker 1: I don't know he's gonna have fun today. He looks
Speaker 1: like he looked like he's going through Wait what I'm calling.
Speaker 1: I'm fine. I'm fine because he got three differr haircuts.
Speaker 1: You got a poem that make up your mind? We
Speaker 1: can be Oh my god, I'm used to. Once you
Speaker 1: see the side shape, you know ain't got nothing to
Speaker 1: do with He holds holding on, came out the hat.
Speaker 1: Whenever you're ready. Shining is the right. So being that
Speaker 1: you're the only one drinking. I feel sorry for you
Speaker 1: because the whole time. Oh no, you're drinking too. That's right.
Speaker 1: So we're doing shots. What do you prefer you're not drinking?
Speaker 1: Come on, come on my talk with bigger Drink on
Speaker 1: the show that I'm gonna keep it real. Okay, bigger
Speaker 1: Drink on the show gets a little dangerous. Oh no,
Speaker 1: we don't want them danger bigger Okay, New York, Okay,
Speaker 1: all in New York. But he was a hall of
Speaker 1: nigger hanging with Brooklyn niggas in the just the nineties,
Speaker 1: right to that's so, what shot are you gonna take?
Speaker 1: It's up to you, brother, No, not up to you
Speaker 1: want you to drink what you want to drink, because
Speaker 1: we don't want you to blame it on me. I'm no,
Speaker 1: no no shots shot shot shots. Yeah, well that you
Speaker 1: gotta yeah, because it's the game slot even I've never
Speaker 1: even heard of, and you can pick both and be
Speaker 1: politically correct. That's when you're taking too much. You got
Speaker 1: with options, we got whatever you want me by the
Speaker 1: way of the killer. Yeah, like no, I'm telling you
Speaker 1: money never money, bro, Yeah, thank you. Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: but I'm being honest. It's knowing your own it. Still,
Speaker 1: it's worth it, that's on it. That's that's all. What
Speaker 1: you're talking about. What I'm saying a potential revolts whole
Speaker 1: money too. They ain't listening. We ain't mad, we ain't mad,
Speaker 1: they ain't bad. I'm telling you they've been great partners.
Speaker 1: Bro Wait, what are you pausing? I'm not said bars
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Speaker 1: right right now they're young. I'm gonna do a rock though.
Speaker 1: Oh should I do sap beneque risty? Right? Can they
Speaker 1: get another bottle of water? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, this
Speaker 1: is this is it. By the way, the game that
Speaker 1: you got me with the missy thing. You better be
Speaker 1: aware that game. You better be aware. And no edit
Speaker 1: I answer half of my questions. Yeah, but you gotta
Speaker 1: still drink anyway. Yeah, yeah, all right, you gotta remember
Speaker 1: the rules. You my water? You're doing mama wana? Okay,
Speaker 1: try it like my mama wanna you know they make
Speaker 1: that in the tub and can I told him make
Speaker 1: a commercial playing? I just I just say that. I
Speaker 1: just say that with him. I was just ready to jail. Ready,
Speaker 1: you're ready, ready, man, you ain't gotta take them big
Speaker 1: shots like that. You ain't got to do it yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah they started off like that. Yeah yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 1: don't got to do it like that, big owl or
Speaker 1: big punt. Start ready, that's a good one. You can
Speaker 1: you explain the rules? Oh I did? Did? I mean? Did?
Speaker 1: You can't? You say both politically correct? You got to drink? Yeah? Both? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh you damn you gotta wait for us. We drink. Yeah,
Speaker 1: did we drink to rest the piece of both of
Speaker 1: them legs? Absolutely? Okay? Not bad? Caress one or rock camp,
Speaker 1: rock camp you too, h like a dragon. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go rock him to Caress one, of course, rock him.
Speaker 1: Then you got a drink? Yeah, yeah, my bad, bad.
Speaker 1: I didn't try to teach you my bath. We can
Speaker 1: see they can see, you know, all right, good one
Speaker 1: murder mook or loaded lucks math motherfucking drink to that.
Speaker 1: Let them make it on man. That was all that was, dude.
Speaker 1: They're going that should taste like I got limited. All right,
Speaker 1: you got the next one. Let me see what we are,
Speaker 1: all right? Wuchang or n w ag? Yeah that should
Speaker 1: be easy for New New York. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we we love California. Just want to put that all right? Cool?
Speaker 1: You got the next one? Kanye Andre three Kan Kanye yeah, Bro,
Speaker 1: three stacks. You're not drinking, man, you're just making this shrink. Man.
Speaker 1: If you're not drinking, bro, like you gotta just go
Speaker 1: with what we saved. Man ain't good now you don't? Okay?
Speaker 1: Did take place? Everybody on the individual merriage taking play?
Speaker 1: You got it? Yeah? Man? Right? Oh no, I got
Speaker 1: this one. No, i'mnna skipping this one to go to him.
Speaker 1: The sauce or xxile y k TV magazine? Did you
Speaker 1: drink that? I want to get keep it real high,
Speaker 1: the source suce, the sauce, and now what sauce, the
Speaker 1: Benzino sauce or the Landown mcnilan sauce. Definitely the Benzino sauce.
Speaker 1: That's like the Dave Benzino Me too, I heard that too, okay,
Speaker 1: d M Max or Tupac ship DMX. I'm go ahead
Speaker 1: get shop. I can just hear flex calling me now
Speaker 1: because you're gonna you take this shot by saying that
Speaker 1: you're saying tupop. Yeah, you're not rolling up. It's been drinking.
Speaker 1: You've been drinking all day. I know, I know you
Speaker 1: you I'll just take a shot. Piece. You take a
Speaker 1: shot for that little Okay, I'm gonna take this one.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna jump over a couple of though. Joe Button
Speaker 1: is a million. That was pro game, my expert. That's
Speaker 1: a good I like that. Not like that too. Shout
Speaker 1: out to Gilly, shout the while I was shout to Joe,
Speaker 1: Shout out to everybody in the space. Man, there's room
Speaker 1: for everybody to win the recipeace Jack recipes coming back
Speaker 1: Jack Um. You know what, let's take this to all
Speaker 1: podcasters because who would have thought that people are hally
Speaker 1: even listening to the radio like we kind of some
Speaker 1: of the people that wouldn't refuse to play my music,
Speaker 1: I refused to interview to them, I got the juice.
Speaker 1: Now I've been going crazy today. I'm not humble at all.
Speaker 1: I gotta calm down. And while we saying recipes, recipes,
Speaker 1: gangs to do as well. Man, you know it's crazy, man,
Speaker 1: I really can't believe. Really it's crazy because you know,
Speaker 1: we don't want to be the last person to interview anybody.
Speaker 1: But when she passed away, when Um take Off passed away,
Speaker 1: people just kept going to our interview and it was
Speaker 1: just like damn it's honor and it was crazy. That's
Speaker 1: why you should never listened to directly to the internet
Speaker 1: or directly to the rhetoric that that's happening. The week
Speaker 1: before they critiqued us and said drink chances for legends.
Speaker 1: Me goes ain't legends, and then then you know, unfortunately
Speaker 1: his de minds that week. The next week at to
Speaker 1: that there was like, I'm so glad you got to
Speaker 1: give him you any flowers, And it's just like, Damn,
Speaker 1: if I were listening, I wouldn't even interview them because
Speaker 1: yesterday they're not legend and it's crazy. So you just
Speaker 1: gotta what did you say, go with your opinion. Unconsciously,
Speaker 1: you also got to consider the source the people who
Speaker 1: were talking. That was a double ententure, So you gotta
Speaker 1: consider the source, not everybody who's talking. As the resumeated talk.
Speaker 1: Tonyo says something on the show, By the way, great episode, Tony,
Speaker 1: your uncle murder. Yeah, he he went, as I like,
Speaker 1: but he said, once I realized that I couldn't make
Speaker 1: everybody happy, I felt liberated. It's real because you get
Speaker 1: all different types of opinions. You just gotta be comfortable with, Okay,
Speaker 1: You're gonna be bad, all right a little with that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Smith and Wesson, Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was that was you again. What happened? What you say?
Speaker 1: You said? Um? They was down with pocket. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: they were defended and miss understood something. I was telling
Speaker 1: them how we felt, guys, me and your age, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe not you personally, but a lot of my parents
Speaker 1: at that time. When that song dropped, we hit him up.
Speaker 1: We were affected in New York. We were hurt, you know.
Speaker 1: And I know people spend the narrative that he was
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, Bigg directly, but me and my
Speaker 1: parents and the guys in the street, we didn't hear
Speaker 1: it like that. We heard loud and clear. It felt
Speaker 1: like you're coming directly at New York with those guys.
Speaker 1: I asked them in the future, when y'all ended up
Speaker 1: like at his house recording the albums, we kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, respectfully looked at you guys as traders and
Speaker 1: that that that set it off. Big said it. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is a good one. Let's see
Speaker 1: what your memory is. So so shocked because I do
Speaker 1: remember and and and and both of those brothers. Those
Speaker 1: are my brothers. Much respect to them, I do much
Speaker 1: respect love. I do remember me being mad at them
Speaker 1: for a week or two weeks. I remember. I remember
Speaker 1: that and Buckshot, I believe, and I remember Let's go
Speaker 1: even EPA. I remember being mad Red and Meth remember
Speaker 1: read it made it up. I'm sorry my brothers got
Speaker 1: both of the phone numbers. They didn't even know though,
Speaker 1: but I didn't know that they didn't. You understand what
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say. So I felt exactly like that.
Speaker 1: I felt like I've seen. I remember me seeing Red
Speaker 1: Man in Branson and just being like like he had
Speaker 1: his legs. I jumped in my legs, just walked. That
Speaker 1: was the first time. I love Red Man the first time.
Speaker 1: And then the Method Man got on the radio and
Speaker 1: I guess like it was and it was spreading like
Speaker 1: yo man, you know, because because that's the one thing
Speaker 1: that we needed at that time. You know. I made
Speaker 1: L A L A and here's a crazy ship, and
Speaker 1: I said it on your show. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you remember I said it on your show. I saw
Speaker 1: the clip the other day, someone sent it to me.
Speaker 1: But I remember making L A L A and bringing
Speaker 1: it to be big and big saying, Nah, they're not
Speaker 1: gonna use this, and like he told me to my face,
Speaker 1: and I was just like and at the time I
Speaker 1: was too young to understand that he understood who he was.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that, and he was like, what they're
Speaker 1: accusing me of? I didn't do that, so I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna address it. And at the time, I was like,
Speaker 1: they just talked about your wife, my nigga, like, and
Speaker 1: they didn't use it. It was for a bad boy mixtape.
Speaker 1: Remember remember the labels was doing mixtape. Stretch arm Strong
Speaker 1: did it. We went mix tapes were legends and they
Speaker 1: didn't know that. And that's speaking on that time. Like
Speaker 1: if you guys at that time didn't make that song,
Speaker 1: it was like that was you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: y'all wasn't even did some but just to make that song.
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy? Let me let me in York,
Speaker 1: let me he too. Listen. Listen, um sean um listen.
Speaker 1: A friend of mine was on something called a DJ list.
Speaker 1: So remember the dj they would get this before, so
Speaker 1: he had the record two months prior to it dropping.
Speaker 1: So what we did was we went to Stretch our
Speaker 1: Strong crib and we was like, are they dissing us?
Speaker 1: And we understand yo, be yo, God, we knew that
Speaker 1: was so that's if you listen. We were going back
Speaker 1: and he was like he was saying, whatever the funk
Speaker 1: They were saying whatever we said, So we didn't you
Speaker 1: talking about the dog Pound record. Now that's people listening.
Speaker 1: They because we can stay and hit him up and
Speaker 1: we gotta go. They did. We did l A l
Speaker 1: A in response, so we purposely didn't, I would say
Speaker 1: the story, So we purposely didn't say anything about l A.
Speaker 1: But Prodigy did. If you remember the first that they
Speaker 1: took off, they took it off, he said, JFK on
Speaker 1: my way to l A. He laid to use that
Speaker 1: verse on Live Nigga Rap what not, but that verse
Speaker 1: was originally on L A L A. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: was crazy was funked up about that prodas he said,
Speaker 1: he did not want to be on the record. He
Speaker 1: did not want to be involved. And the day that
Speaker 1: we filmed l A l A video hit him up
Speaker 1: came out and he wanted to be involved. Sir. He
Speaker 1: tag he takes mind that night they think it's in
Speaker 1: the season since three o'clock and was in the back nine.
Speaker 1: I respect that. I respect that like he rest in peace,
Speaker 1: Rest peace, my favorite boy. Still when y'all y'all through
Speaker 1: the body of thing. See, we had to do that.
Speaker 1: We had no budget. By the way, I was the
Speaker 1: worst looking we had boards. Remember that. Let you know
Speaker 1: he abound you remember Eve. You know I wasn't in that.
Speaker 1: It was there on the bridge, dumping the body. Looking around.
Speaker 1: It's mad, cars dropping bodies thinking they have no bunchet. Mad.
Speaker 1: I'll I'll be looking at I'll be looking at that
Speaker 1: videos down and I'd be like, thank god, I can
Speaker 1: see the hunger in my face. You can smell who
Speaker 1: steps on me there? You can smell it. Oh my god. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're still in a quick time. I'm sorry, just trying
Speaker 1: to kick us out. Yeah, yes, alright, Bits Markey old
Speaker 1: b O d b bs market oldb That's a tough one.
Speaker 1: That's a tough one. That's a tough one. Because they
Speaker 1: almost comes bro. I would say, oh dirty bad about you, Max,
Speaker 1: Yeah O d B B Yeah. I say, I say, um, well,
Speaker 1: if you had one of the illest personalities, I say,
Speaker 1: that's why we gotta protect our legends. Prior to him
Speaker 1: going to jail, it's probably the best personality we ever
Speaker 1: had in hip hop. If you see how he came home,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to make it about the ODB, but if
Speaker 1: you see how he came home, that wasn't the same
Speaker 1: person definitely, like it wasn't the same. It wasn't like
Speaker 1: Fox people up man, J. I don't know. I think,
Speaker 1: I think. I think, I think being a rapper is way.
Speaker 1: I think we all need therapy. I think we all
Speaker 1: need to sit down. Maybe it's not therapy. We all
Speaker 1: need to sit down and to realize that we ain't
Speaker 1: each other's enemy like we like, we aren't enemies of
Speaker 1: each other, and we have to start taking care of
Speaker 1: each other because it's ship like that that shouldn't happen,
Speaker 1: like when I see old mean when he came back
Speaker 1: and and God bless because Rockefeller was trying to do
Speaker 1: the right thing. It's just that they shouldn't have been involved,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, And what happened is it made Odi
Speaker 1: be kind of take a choice between family and money.
Speaker 1: And that's a bad it's a bad choice. Like and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, always pick family, Yes, always pick family.
Speaker 1: The money the money has come, Yes, but maybe he's
Speaker 1: picking family by picking the money exactly, you know, and
Speaker 1: everything we're saying is from the outside looking and we
Speaker 1: really don't know what we really don't know. But picked
Speaker 1: him up. Man. I got a chance to meet O. D. B.
Speaker 1: And I want to play Bisinesmarkey in the movie. Remember
Speaker 1: they was doing the Juice movie. I went to um
Speaker 1: to play bisinmar I still I still want to play
Speaker 1: bisinmar That that was my That was my rapper who
Speaker 1: made me laugh like boogers, well picking buggers say he
Speaker 1: picked the booker and put it on a basketball and
Speaker 1: then passed. He's a genius. He made being a joker
Speaker 1: cool and then it's crazy. He made it cool. Yeahs
Speaker 1: a sucker, but he could be. I'm in dinner with
Speaker 1: Daddy came the other night. I was like, I was
Speaker 1: so mad. I didn't know. Okay, real pick buggers. But
Speaker 1: then the vapors vapors, by the way, vapors. This day
Speaker 1: something will happen. You'd be like, they go to the vapors.
Speaker 1: Yeah to this day. Yeah, I don't know what. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of people catching the vapors. N't want to
Speaker 1: get you that. Just run through this real quick, okay,
Speaker 1: kiss all fast, relaxed, listening, Mecca, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: He's trying to secure his relationships. That's why it's just
Speaker 1: just just brother camera you kiss, right, the versus kind
Speaker 1: of you're just gonna say that kiss. I don't think
Speaker 1: the verses proven. You know that you know kiss? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just think Fat picked. I would say, yeah, he
Speaker 1: picked the wrong records. Fat really over Yeah as the
Speaker 1: hardest to a body of music. If I'm driving, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna throw something in the listing to a three hour drive.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna definitely choose fab like side of dout.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say kiss because kiss is more personable. Kiss
Speaker 1: will sit down and talk to you and tell you
Speaker 1: how crack Yeah I got. I got a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of like things I've done. That was the
Speaker 1: sound that Jada Kiss was the soundtrack to the ship
Speaker 1: that I did. So I might be kissed any view Fat,
Speaker 1: but I've been viewed jadakiss a couple of dams. I
Speaker 1: don't really do it. It might take a shot for it,
Speaker 1: might be a little biased. You gotta take a shot
Speaker 1: for your man. You gotta take a shot just for that. Yah,
Speaker 1: you ain't saying nothing now. He ain't say nothing. It's
Speaker 1: crazy because I feel like I mean yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: we h you take a shot. I'm gonna say both. Okay,
Speaker 1: we want to stand and take a shot. Let me
Speaker 1: take a shot of this. Fine, there we are. Hey,
Speaker 1: that's a whole another day and we cool as well.
Speaker 1: Profession questions, we know that's too much. Yes, every every question,
Speaker 1: Ship got let own in there. You ready? Yeah, you
Speaker 1: go drer puff you said Drake or puff d I
Speaker 1: gotta go puff, Sorry, I gotta go puff as a
Speaker 1: producer as your future Life after being my favorite album
Speaker 1: of all time. Okay, I know people would owe the Chronic.
Speaker 1: The Chronic Life After Death was a masterpiece from be
Speaker 1: not just No, No, it is right. Don't see the
Speaker 1: did you can play from start to finish? Now that's
Speaker 1: true that what was the last time did that? You know? What?
Speaker 1: God about that? I forgot about that. No, it looks
Speaker 1: like we're gonna get technical that he produced dre produced.
Speaker 1: But then I guess you could go into he's in
Speaker 1: the question this person of that person puffing on the
Speaker 1: versus you can say about Drake against also Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I'm saying that's gonna be both right, It's gonna be crazy.
Speaker 1: I'm saying it's a tough one for that quickly. But
Speaker 1: just off the strength of Life after Death is my
Speaker 1: favorite album of all time. I gotta give it to Puff,
Speaker 1: how about you, Mecca, brother, I don't know, I don't
Speaker 1: know that resumes. I mean because you started giving Dre
Speaker 1: credit for the n w A ward if you put
Speaker 1: the Tree of Dre. Yeah, and the Tree of Puff
Speaker 1: is hell too, but the Tree Evil make an album
Speaker 1: that was better than Life after Death. No, but Dorgy
Speaker 1: Styles is not a game. No, you gotta go with
Speaker 1: m Life after Death is it's death is a double album.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to the last but for life and it
Speaker 1: just wasn't to say thank you how many? And then
Speaker 1: there's like the Kindrick work and the game word nah nah,
Speaker 1: there's love it, love it. I'm gonna step back wants
Speaker 1: but Life after Death, bro, But I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: you want know bro, it's emotionate. Wait a minute, the
Speaker 1: album is a movement, is yeah? About I needed to
Speaker 1: hear explanation because you gotta we can't ignore Mace. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, make Superstar of the game, right,
Speaker 1: you know? But that but let me stop you for
Speaker 1: one second. Doesn't Mace only have one album? Isn't him
Speaker 1: like Lauren Hill the same na got your Yeah, oh
Speaker 1: yeah that's right. My bad bad, Yeah, but don't really
Speaker 1: album the Treason. Don't really like that. But the original
Speaker 1: Joint and No Way Out work. You're counting no where
Speaker 1: you can start early DC, easy, cool and heavy. You
Speaker 1: gotta go heavy, Ye, you gotta go head. No, you're
Speaker 1: talking about an A and R at that point. That's producer. No,
Speaker 1: he wasn't get your favorite week, it was your favorite week.
Speaker 1: Smoke wrote that ship up smoke it listen to the
Speaker 1: Life After Death, the whole ship debate. No one's debate,
Speaker 1: you not one. So yeah, yeah, yeah we know that.
Speaker 1: If none of those credit to Puff for BIG's album,
Speaker 1: and I'm not giving a hundred percent credit, that's what
Speaker 1: we're talking talking about it. But if he was involved
Speaker 1: in the in the album that I feel like it
Speaker 1: was the great Rick Ross. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's so as far as that's the problem with this question,
Speaker 1: is that too many other nuances, right, Yeah, Well that's
Speaker 1: why Dr dre is more relevant as far as how
Speaker 1: many people worked at how many albums that sold all
Speaker 1: crazy how many records he actually produced with his fingers?
Speaker 1: Right right? Right? Puff is a great orchestrated He knows
Speaker 1: the talent, he knows how to find it, put in
Speaker 1: the right set it and make magic. That's what Puff does, right.
Speaker 1: But it's too many factors. But I'm gonna say, Puff,
Speaker 1: if you could have part of it, part of it,
Speaker 1: to town part of it, you have to long history, baby,
Speaker 1: because then you started taking into account Dr Dre's influence
Speaker 1: over the entire West Coast because Puff has that influence
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, but I could, I could, But that's
Speaker 1: but that's my whole point. It starts to even out
Speaker 1: once we start the why do you cast the net?
Speaker 1: They both have a lot of fish to catch? And
Speaker 1: who you start asking about X, Y, Z, A, B,
Speaker 1: and C. Guess maybe the question we should be asking
Speaker 1: who today are the children of them? Specifically, that's a law.
Speaker 1: They are relevant right now, like actively right now. You
Speaker 1: know what right now are active right now that are
Speaker 1: directly under the umbrella of them, that are relevant right now.
Speaker 1: So you don't forget what But you got to understand
Speaker 1: that pas credit has to go to easy Come on, No,
Speaker 1: that's not that's not without no public you want to
Speaker 1: say on the conversation. Conversation to Rescipe is easy. Rescipace
Speaker 1: Andrea Rose, We're moving on, gonna class record day, world
Speaker 1: class record crew like, yeah, man, we could go even
Speaker 1: for the back, we could wear what's your podcast? What's
Speaker 1: your favorite past? Stamped? We stamped and stopping that a
Speaker 1: shopping that shot we do? Who are we kidding? We
Speaker 1: know why we're here. Shout out the easy mobi. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: absolutely for all the work on both sides. Crazy drink
Speaker 1: with both. Not only he worked with both of them,
Speaker 1: but kept working during the beat. Yeah, because Me against
Speaker 1: the World is my favorite pot album. Shout out lose.
Speaker 1: We don't believe you, man, We don't don't kills you.
Speaker 1: That's trust. The fans will kill you. Take your shot,
Speaker 1: trust me, trust me. It doesn't get a regular us
Speaker 1: for here in the game. You eas see it. Come
Speaker 1: on and we celebrate you today. He celebrated you and
Speaker 1: your kid. You on your team. And by the way,
Speaker 1: you know the top is a shot too. I really
Speaker 1: thought you setting me up. Yeah, I thought a puff
Speaker 1: was going right out here with a const No. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Chance just went to bath. He went to the bathroom
Speaker 1: trying to avoid his shot. He got, we got, we
Speaker 1: got something for his ass. We're gonna wait. We gotta
Speaker 1: say something. Y'all had a podcast waiting for a podcast today,
Speaker 1: y'all were late. I can't believe that. Accept let me
Speaker 1: tell you something. First of a podcast, we had math.
Speaker 1: He showed up early. Yes, sweatsuits, he was. You know,
Speaker 1: he needed some money right now, right said, I missed
Speaker 1: my flagers that I got the helicopter. Yeah yeah, yeah, no, no,
Speaker 1: but yo, damn I was. I was. Champ was. I
Speaker 1: don't know, gonna take this shot for him now, I'm
Speaker 1: really really proud of you got no man. Um. The
Speaker 1: reason why is the show kept its it's realness. It's
Speaker 1: a little bit, but it kept the main integrity because
Speaker 1: the main integrity. And I like the fact that y'all
Speaker 1: arguing now. I like the fact that because it makes
Speaker 1: feel great, it makes feel great. You gotta realize, you
Speaker 1: gotta realize your big end. Champ got into it the
Speaker 1: last episode. Yeah yeah, bro, hold on, take your take
Speaker 1: your shot. You got your shot, You got your shot,
Speaker 1: you got yeah yeah yeah. Because this is for y'all,
Speaker 1: let me just tell ya something that um, you poll
Speaker 1: your shot in give y'all a great speech because I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give you all a great speech because I know
Speaker 1: how hard it is to survive, to be You know,
Speaker 1: podcasting is like being in Costcos. Right, you can, everyone
Speaker 1: can have their product in Costcos. But if you got
Speaker 1: your ship behind the deers, the dear, yeah, you need
Speaker 1: you need to have your ship where the ugly lady says,
Speaker 1: welcome to Costcos and your ships right right front. You
Speaker 1: know the lady that smoked too much cigarettes. We smoke cigarettes.
Speaker 1: She's nine hundreds and she's like, yeah, she's like she's like,
Speaker 1: she's like, welcome Costco lady taking it straight for no reason. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you know, you know she's doing their job
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, but you know I'm talking hard. The
Speaker 1: one the lady that she looked like she spoke, so
Speaker 1: what is he wanna tell ya? We have been no
Speaker 1: independent podcast. We know how it fails. We know how
Speaker 1: it feels to go up against these others. We know
Speaker 1: how it feels to be recognized and not be recognized.
Speaker 1: We know that y'all going through it's crazy because whether
Speaker 1: it is direct or indirect, we've been through. And for
Speaker 1: me to see y'all growth, for me to see how
Speaker 1: this ship came together, for me to see how y'all
Speaker 1: keeping it tight. It's something I wanted to It's my idea.
Speaker 1: I called Math. I said, Yo, I want y'all want
Speaker 1: the crew we had you don't over we had you, um,
Speaker 1: but I want, I want. I want to give it
Speaker 1: to y'all. It's not it's not sorry, it's not just
Speaker 1: about you see I see you, you know, but it's
Speaker 1: it's about Yeah, it's about commodity. You know. I'm a
Speaker 1: little socia. You know that. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm I can't pronounce my own name. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Salute, but I want to salute y'all say
Speaker 1: respect um, continue to do your thing for that one. Yes,
Speaker 1: are you gonna take it with your hell? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm you know, it's like the contract not for real
Speaker 1: because it salut um and and and what's crazy is
Speaker 1: your personalities. Thank you, you have personalities. The fact I
Speaker 1: knew the show was going to change for the better
Speaker 1: because of Mecca, right, And I want to give you
Speaker 1: a Flowers direct because man, there's an all street don't
Speaker 1: everyone else is like a street guy. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: you're not a street guy. We know you're not a
Speaker 1: s but you to but I know you have an
Speaker 1: expert opinion. You actually are an expert alright, extually, I
Speaker 1: think out of all of us here, I think you're
Speaker 1: probably only actually like I've always you know, um, you know,
Speaker 1: prior to this, I've always done interviews and I've always
Speaker 1: been a fan of you and how you handled me,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, how you treated me, whether
Speaker 1: I was when I was coming up, whether when I
Speaker 1: was in the medium of error or whether And how
Speaker 1: hard is that because these relationships, how hard is to
Speaker 1: maintain that here? It's not hard. It's not. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't make it. Just don't handle this after that's
Speaker 1: that's whatever you're about to get into it. Get know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Gets it's not. It's not a difficult thing. Man.
Speaker 1: I learned early on. The job is the job, and
Speaker 1: it's not. It's not about you. It's not about me.
Speaker 1: It's about the person who picks up the magazine and
Speaker 1: decides they want to know more about this person's life.
Speaker 1: My job is to paint that at you and make
Speaker 1: it as honest as possible, and make it entertaining. The
Speaker 1: reason why we have such a good thing going over
Speaker 1: here is because all of those factors come into play.
Speaker 1: We make it entertaining. He's gonna say what he's gonna say.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be real, even even if it's wrong. He
Speaker 1: really means it. He's telling the truth, his truth. It's
Speaker 1: exactly like, how can how can you ever be mad
Speaker 1: at anybody who's telling it? Now, the consequences are gonna
Speaker 1: come down, But I'm used to I've done that already.
Speaker 1: So it's a it's a it's it's it's definitely a
Speaker 1: unique experience. It's the first time I've ever been a
Speaker 1: part of anything like this. I'm happy to move off
Speaker 1: a print and do this here with But I'm make
Speaker 1: no mistake. I'm I've been built for this a long
Speaker 1: time ago. It's not as rugged as what people may
Speaker 1: think it is. And I knew that. I remember when
Speaker 1: the podcast started, right yelling at heat makers and ship
Speaker 1: and I knew that. I was like, yeah, or you
Speaker 1: was a guest on the show first, you gotta keep first. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. No, I wasn't called to be
Speaker 1: a host. I was called it. He's somebody backed out.
Speaker 1: He's a homie. He called me Yo, can you pull up?
Speaker 1: I know Megan shout out the yo dub one of
Speaker 1: the longest open mics in New York City. Rest in peace,
Speaker 1: rest in peace, vice versus vice versus rest in peace?
Speaker 1: Uh Jay, rest in peace? Um yeah, go all down
Speaker 1: that tree j arch head. Yeah. Um so I know
Speaker 1: Mecca from that environment. And another thing I want to say, yo,
Speaker 1: open mics need to come back. Yeah for you just ryman, Yeah,
Speaker 1: on your craft. Ain't that such a legtion? You don't
Speaker 1: even know what the open mic? That's not what they're
Speaker 1: doing right now? Karaoke? Yeah, man, this ain't car It's
Speaker 1: probably close to the stand up open mics. If you could,
Speaker 1: you could relate it. You can relate it close to
Speaker 1: someone who doesn't understand. But that was that, But that
Speaker 1: was the space. Will you hone the craft when you
Speaker 1: saw guys rocking a stage and you said, what was
Speaker 1: the jay z? The Mayfield she's um um the lady
Speaker 1: short shorty name two the intro ohh uh he knows,
Speaker 1: because yeah, just because I was supposed Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1: And we're still on quick time and slime. We forgot
Speaker 1: I can't remember my name. I can't, but I know
Speaker 1: I know that I know that ahead. I noticed that's
Speaker 1: sucking me up that I don't know that he wants
Speaker 1: to look it up there? Yes, what was that woman's name?
Speaker 1: Is he passed away? Yeah, that's that's where holding them
Speaker 1: used to uh go And we had something like that
Speaker 1: similar and queens called the Q Club Q Club. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and shot at at the Queah. You got shot at
Speaker 1: from brook A lot of people got shot at the
Speaker 1: Shotria David Davis rest in peace. Um, but yeah, EO
Speaker 1: dub end of the Week. That was the spot where
Speaker 1: I used to go through weight on that line, sign up,
Speaker 1: get on that list, to get on that stage, whether
Speaker 1: it was freestyle and I was performing a song or whatever,
Speaker 1: and Mecca would be in the spot. And I did
Speaker 1: that for years, for years. And that's where I know
Speaker 1: Mecca from. Um the soort stuff I didn't. I wasn't
Speaker 1: really too familiar. It wasn't he wasn't that Zeno's fault.
Speaker 1: That Zeno's fault is Zeno's fault. When I decided not
Speaker 1: to dis eminem, he took away to unsigned hype for me,
Speaker 1: So I was like, yeah, pretty much shot Do you
Speaker 1: know though, I hope, I hope, I hope Dad is
Speaker 1: doing okay and all that ship. But when Mett came
Speaker 1: on the show, I was like, mm hmm, okay, he's
Speaker 1: a historian, you know what, not get to I don't
Speaker 1: want to want history. I want to I want to
Speaker 1: being a historian and and somebody who cares so much
Speaker 1: about the culture. I said, Yo, no he has to.
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever had a conversation with Mecca
Speaker 1: that doesn't involve hip hop, right, I don't think it's
Speaker 1: not true. The day I introduce you to BArch your chicken,
Speaker 1: we didn't talk. Yeah. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie that bonch.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. That's yo. Don't read itself into
Speaker 1: it like that. I can't even I can't even tell
Speaker 1: you because this might sound crazy. Gone let alone. I'm okay.
Speaker 1: Scarf face, ice cube, scarf Oh shut damn cute. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's gonna said, I said, Starfish from the Womb to
Speaker 1: the tomb a hot powder, John Spoon trying to make
Speaker 1: me the thousand to move today? What's a good days?
Speaker 1: Two and two? Technically I should make your drink, but
Speaker 1: it's okay, No, that's not the way it works. You
Speaker 1: stay trying to that's his job. Came late, my night
Speaker 1: is already room. Uh you got it? Oh yeah, you're
Speaker 1: on TV wraps A Rap city. I love this one.
Speaker 1: We do your music box right when one time he's
Speaker 1: the father. By the way, did you see he's get
Speaker 1: the money? Did you know that? You see McDaniels was
Speaker 1: only second to Oprah the ratings, the ratings, he was
Speaker 1: only second, So how does that not continue? Like, how
Speaker 1: does that not bigger for him? Ralph McDaniels is single
Speaker 1: handedly responsible for the spread of hip hop, absolutely, but
Speaker 1: how was that to another level? Because I wanted to
Speaker 1: reproduce I can't be saying all that and you ain't
Speaker 1: watching and started watching it's so good and it was
Speaker 1: so dope about it is you get to see NAS
Speaker 1: fan the funk out. He's just like like it's like
Speaker 1: like he's just he's not Nas at all. He's just
Speaker 1: a fan of like he's breaking it down. He remembered
Speaker 1: the intro. He's like, remember, come on, come on, take
Speaker 1: a shouting around me. You're from New York City, New
Speaker 1: York City and you my age, you know, you know
Speaker 1: it's crazy about it was the Disney afternoon until Batman
Speaker 1: came out. Then Batman came out at four thirty. But
Speaker 1: right at five o'clock you went straight channel. Queen's was thirty.
Speaker 1: I thought, I'm thinking. I was thinking about the box,
Speaker 1: but the boxes on the boxes of Miami Daily Man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: drinking when Sir ralpers from Queen's. Yeah, Queen's get and
Speaker 1: we gotta get here his flowers for sure. You gotta
Speaker 1: go crazy. The first of my soul, Ralph, I fanned out, cheers, guys,
Speaker 1: and I was like, Uncle Ralph. He looked at me.
Speaker 1: He was like laugh, said, ship, you do a little
Speaker 1: dance the whole ship. Yo. He was like, you understand,
Speaker 1: that's what it's all about. At the end of the day,
Speaker 1: That's what it's about. Goddamn he getting that feels great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a great one. I'm going straight to you.
Speaker 1: Mac now hold, I'm sorry I cut your story off.
Speaker 1: Finish your stof No. No, he was like, math Holf,
Speaker 1: I sold you deal with that Irons Solomon situation. I
Speaker 1: was masterful. I was like, thank you, stand Moca never
Speaker 1: battle me. He would never battle me. Bro, Why should
Speaker 1: we finished kreektime and come back to this. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: Fritish Creekti House coming back. We are going straight to you,
Speaker 1: Mecca and Manema bust the rhymes bus bus math. He
Speaker 1: ain't been on the show yet, dope, but you shout
Speaker 1: of the South, Okay, So I'm gonna go in with
Speaker 1: this one. He's never going Now, that's a tough one,
Speaker 1: you know, um or shout out to both of them.
Speaker 1: That's a tough one. That's one of those epic ones.
Speaker 1: You say both you gotta drink, we gotta drink, would say,
Speaker 1: I would say Eminem, Yeah, yeah, you're the top breaking
Speaker 1: right now? Wait who is it again? And Buster? Eminem?
Speaker 1: So three the one. If I could vote, I'm vote Buster.
Speaker 1: And it's actually easy to vost because because you could
Speaker 1: say without one, there's no other. But we know Buster.
Speaker 1: That's right. I'm not gonna lie to hold on real quick. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. That calm down record event to
Speaker 1: no Buster. The morning was retarded, that I never understood
Speaker 1: why I should never got no radio plate. That ship
Speaker 1: was richly hard the real world. Yeah, but when it
Speaker 1: comes to m being that I'm a battle rapper, yeah
Speaker 1: and has to be on your shot. Let's move on.
Speaker 1: He's gonna come here first and then go you know
Speaker 1: closer in Detroit. We can make mocktails. Bro, We're good.
Speaker 1: I literally I have this argument with Royce five now
Speaker 1: all the time. We go back and forth, and I
Speaker 1: tell him, my guy will scrape your guy, so get
Speaker 1: your guy. Let's figure it out for versus versus. We
Speaker 1: were actually the only people that was talking about Eminem
Speaker 1: versus Buster for for for for the verses. That's hard.
Speaker 1: I think that would be incredible. I'm sofa the world
Speaker 1: was stopped that fucking fast and go crazy world. They
Speaker 1: gotta go back and forth with the buses. The thing
Speaker 1: about it is and is a beast on stage and
Speaker 1: he's a beast and lyrics and buses not but bust world.
Speaker 1: What is the stage again? Nothing like the on stage everything.
Speaker 1: What he said was what happened. Twisters is the fastest
Speaker 1: in the in the world record, all right, shout to twist,
Speaker 1: move on or holding from fish to gains. I think
Speaker 1: he might have chipped Chip. Gonna go to you back
Speaker 1: and forth because I know you're gonna let Brooklyn rule,
Speaker 1: and then I'm going to you because I know you're
Speaker 1: gonna let queens mp A mob d it depends on
Speaker 1: what type of activities into That sounds like just say
Speaker 1: both man, No, we're getting into both got to have
Speaker 1: it be. How are you going to do this some
Speaker 1: crazy ship? Um, because the Brooklyn and you ain't going
Speaker 1: to just let you just walk over and you can't
Speaker 1: kick him. Bro Brooklyn's gonna be. It's something like a
Speaker 1: shot to me. And we got a whole got at
Speaker 1: them both. Yeah yeah, I mean, I mean, don't even bick.
Speaker 1: Don't killers in a hundred dollar billis it's real? Niggas
Speaker 1: ain't got no p he's speaking mom d Yeah, come on,
Speaker 1: I love both of them, but you can't compare and
Speaker 1: mo pee by the work definitely Okay, that's true. Yeah,
Speaker 1: bib okay, it sounds like I canna understand. I mean cool,
Speaker 1: but come on, love we love stop back and forth.
Speaker 1: Brown's real. Hell, I see fame and BT awards. Man,
Speaker 1: you guys are looking good. You guys are you know?
Speaker 1: Famous in the gym every day. I want I want,
Speaker 1: I want you to know that we want to give
Speaker 1: you your flowers please please, Um, We're gonna go so
Speaker 1: hard this year because it's really about those legends that yes,
Speaker 1: I love you so that's a little I love. Or
Speaker 1: when they come, they're coming to me first, no problem,
Speaker 1: I don't mind. I guess what. I'm gonna watch it too.
Speaker 1: And it was reposted and I don't care. I do
Speaker 1: the same thing. Yeah, I love major or independent independent
Speaker 1: Mecca major. I'm making some noise for you the face.
Speaker 1: I will go independent. But if you're dealing with the
Speaker 1: right major that you have, you have your own relationship,
Speaker 1: relationship with major. Okay, that's that's my which is what
Speaker 1: I've always told that, That's what I've always said. I
Speaker 1: would state the beauty of independence for the simple fact
Speaker 1: of when you look at different platforms that are independent,
Speaker 1: artist wise, podcast wise, Mike's for the p nbing number one. Um,
Speaker 1: you don't really want nobody over you telling you what
Speaker 1: to do in any shape, way, shape or form. You
Speaker 1: won't be able to count count your own dollars with
Speaker 1: a certain extent. But that's not that's not really control
Speaker 1: you and control your creative You know what, if you
Speaker 1: know what, if you have to, if you The perfect
Speaker 1: way to put this is, I don't think anyone should
Speaker 1: reach towards the major until you find out what you
Speaker 1: could do independently, right at first have to be great
Speaker 1: at being independent so you can take advantage of a
Speaker 1: major major exactly, so the major doesn't take it smart
Speaker 1: Ya that truly did? I enjoyed it? Okay? Last question
Speaker 1: we asked everybody, and this has not been quick, not
Speaker 1: quick with time. Loyalty or respect loyalty because you can't
Speaker 1: have loyalty without respect. You can't. You can respect somebody
Speaker 1: and you can stab him in the back, that's how
Speaker 1: much you respect him, you know what I mean? Like, Oh,
Speaker 1: this motherfucker, No, he's gonna tear me up. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: stab him in the bag, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But when you got loyalty, that's everything, that's everything. Loyalty
Speaker 1: creates kingdoms, it creates countries, that creates movements. Respect it's
Speaker 1: a part of loyalty. It falls under the umbrella. HM.
Speaker 1: So I'm going respect because I've never been able to
Speaker 1: be loyal to anybody I didn't respect. Ever, I've never
Speaker 1: been able to If if I can't respect what you do,
Speaker 1: how you treat people, how you how you act, can't
Speaker 1: be loyal. But doesn't that mean that to be loyal
Speaker 1: to someone you have to respect them to to I
Speaker 1: can't I cannot be loyal to someone I don't. But
Speaker 1: there are people you respect that you you're not loyal to.
Speaker 1: I don't have any I don't have any ties to them.
Speaker 1: Let me let me say Let let me say it
Speaker 1: this way. First of all, like I respect Shorty's had,
Speaker 1: but I ain't like I don't think I don't. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't spect that quality. But that is not what
Speaker 1: you're doing. I like you like the head, you don't
Speaker 1: respect it, you like it, I respect you like it.
Speaker 1: You might even love it. However, again, I've never been
Speaker 1: able to show loyalty to somebody I didn't respect. If
Speaker 1: you're doing ship that I can't respect, did disrespectful ship
Speaker 1: or ship that I that I don't see. If you're
Speaker 1: not an upstanding just being a fun boy and ship,
Speaker 1: I can't be loyal to that because I don't respect you.
Speaker 1: I don't respect what you do. If I see, okay,
Speaker 1: if I see you treat somebody close to you really
Speaker 1: really fucked up, I'm gonna be loyal to that, all right.
Speaker 1: So so so so when a little uh the flowers,
Speaker 1: when somebody who's stepping into the podcast and they're really
Speaker 1: in the dirty section of YouTube, right, hey, man, get
Speaker 1: your life together. They're really in a dirty sextion the
Speaker 1: YouTube and they start ticking shots, the filthy shots. They
Speaker 1: want to get dirty, so they're gonna be like, yo,
Speaker 1: may make kids this mecha's that you could respect it,
Speaker 1: but that don't mean that they can't you pop it
Speaker 1: ship that about that means a martial artists. Did you
Speaker 1: know that he looked he gonna kick somebody. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to get this thing to do around household camera forever
Speaker 1: one time? How about you loyal to your respect with
Speaker 1: respect respect? Yeah, and the reason why I go respect
Speaker 1: something slightly similar to what Maca said, so but a
Speaker 1: little different. I could be loyal to something that I
Speaker 1: don't respect. It could start out the same way and
Speaker 1: they are very similar. But at some point someone could
Speaker 1: be loyal to you that have lawyer's respect for you.
Speaker 1: How how can you be because I respect if I
Speaker 1: don't respect you, I'm not. I don't have to be
Speaker 1: loyal to you. That to eat that every conforms you
Speaker 1: to stay loyal if you don't respect them. Because a
Speaker 1: lot of people money, a lot of people are loyal
Speaker 1: to the opportunity and not the person. That's why I'm different.
Speaker 1: I don't give a funk how much money you but
Speaker 1: but you would you give it to me if I
Speaker 1: don't respect your don't respect you? Simple and can you
Speaker 1: even describe that as loyalty? Though? Sure? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's how you know, even in this business we wanted
Speaker 1: to don't have to be as complicated as we make
Speaker 1: it been. And wives get married every day. That's the
Speaker 1: same exact thing. Somewhere on the line. Your husband or
Speaker 1: your wife is gonna watch you and according to your ways,
Speaker 1: your characteristics and things that you show them, they could
Speaker 1: lose respect for you, but they are going to stay
Speaker 1: loyal to you because of whose they are. So you're
Speaker 1: picking loyalty. No, no, no, it's respect. He's staying Which
Speaker 1: one do you more? It's respect because someone who respects you,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be lower you to you come someone who
Speaker 1: respects you going to be lawyer to you. That's when
Speaker 1: it comes in thesane. But someone who is lawing you
Speaker 1: to you don't have to respect you. People get up
Speaker 1: and go to a job every day that they're lawyering
Speaker 1: you too, and be like, fuck this job and don't
Speaker 1: respect the job. But there I'm lawyer you said the
Speaker 1: job I want respect, we give it to you. I
Speaker 1: taking a shot this job. I got fired from every
Speaker 1: job I was ever. Let me taking a show that
Speaker 1: I'll taking a shot, and now you lower your respect.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say respect, right, Okay, So I'm going
Speaker 1: by I'm going by the dictionary version, right, the dictionary
Speaker 1: version of respected. Yeah. The foundation Google, So it's not
Speaker 1: just respect is a feeling of deep admiration for someone
Speaker 1: or something elicited by their abilities, qualities, or achievements. And
Speaker 1: what's the loyal to? Loyal ti means a strong feeling
Speaker 1: of support or allegiance. That's it. That's as far as
Speaker 1: to go the dictionary. At first, you know, you know
Speaker 1: it is amongst us. But my thing is, at first
Speaker 1: I was in agreeance with math. I'm like, yeah, loyal t.
Speaker 1: You know I'm saying my wife is loyal, my fiance
Speaker 1: is loyal to? Right, put me down my whole bit,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But does respect makes out
Speaker 1: of mouth? But where's the respect? That? Don't you respected
Speaker 1: me personal? Right now? But that's because he used the
Speaker 1: example and I got to ask the question, does with
Speaker 1: respect stop you from stitching? Wait? What does respect stop
Speaker 1: you from stitching? Code? Does respect stop you from snitching?
Speaker 1: Or does loyalty stop you from snitching? Respect for the bro?
Speaker 1: Because if I which one with me? Which one is
Speaker 1: in the lead to you? That's all I'm saying. Hold
Speaker 1: on all right, give you a good example, right? If
Speaker 1: I respect every man in this room, I don't know
Speaker 1: everybody in this room. Respect back, y'all brothers. I respect
Speaker 1: everything y'all doing because y'all showed results, right, I've done
Speaker 1: things that I have not done yet. I'm still learning,
Speaker 1: and y'all have set the standard you right, I respect
Speaker 1: that and my loyalty to you don't know what you
Speaker 1: don't know us, right. That's so here's where I'm going. Um,
Speaker 1: People fuck up, People fuck up, right up people, and
Speaker 1: sometimes you don't respect the funk up. But staying loyal
Speaker 1: that's more important. Bro, People fuck up. If people fuck
Speaker 1: up that somebody sucks up once and your loyalties out,
Speaker 1: you would never really loyal. But but can you can
Speaker 1: you respect the funk up? I can? Of course you
Speaker 1: can respect the fun How fu U I got? If you?
Speaker 1: If you lose respect with me because I'm funked up,
Speaker 1: I'm flawless. Of course I respect. I respect the fact.
Speaker 1: That's what I say loyalty because nobody's perfect. I'm like,
Speaker 1: funk up loyalty to me, all right, exactly. But I
Speaker 1: won't lose right at four in the morning when I'm
Speaker 1: twisting coming out the club and ship that I'm doing
Speaker 1: is just still respect you. I just mean your mother.
Speaker 1: I'll still judge, yeah, but I respect. What I'm saying
Speaker 1: is that I don't think you can you can separate
Speaker 1: the two now, you can't separate. That's that's why we
Speaker 1: asked this question. It is because to us, to me
Speaker 1: at E f N, that's the only time you should drink.
Speaker 1: It's just say it should always it should be handing
Speaker 1: hand to us. I can dig it. There's respect that answer.
Speaker 1: There's no real there's no real respect without lawyer. I
Speaker 1: get it. I get it. You could have respect from
Speaker 1: a distance to an adversary that you say, damn, that
Speaker 1: dude is fucking wild, but I respect his game, But
Speaker 1: is that really respect? That goes back to the whole
Speaker 1: editing thing too. Right, So like you have a loyal
Speaker 1: t to a buster, you have a loyal t toward
Speaker 1: fat Joe, right, and I'm gonna keep it. Mecca doesn't
Speaker 1: have a certain loyalty because when it comes to work,
Speaker 1: it's work. I'm not a fan of your work. I'm
Speaker 1: here to do a job. Loyalty, your loyal to the job. Respect.
Speaker 1: But he respects the morality or the or the guidelines
Speaker 1: of that job. There's a code that comes with that respecting.
Speaker 1: And that's why I won't tell due to loyalty. Bro,
Speaker 1: But it's it's both. Listen, man telling me, don't tell
Speaker 1: without a reason. Salute no goddamn reason. Oh, I gotta
Speaker 1: say it is not so loud. I'm gonna tell you whatever.
Speaker 1: This is right here. This ship is smooth and I'm
Speaker 1: not even drunk. Let me ask all the quart for
Speaker 1: those that believe in the creator? Okay, which one? Which?
Speaker 1: That's why I made that, bro, You know, um to
Speaker 1: speak to those schools believe in different things. What would
Speaker 1: you think your creative would loyalty or respect? And this
Speaker 1: is why I was right. I think it would always
Speaker 1: be loyalty. You think your creator will want loyalty, So
Speaker 1: then if that is the case, if he want loyalty,
Speaker 1: why wouldn't he just made everybody to be loyal If
Speaker 1: he made us to be loyal, we wouldn't be asking
Speaker 1: this question. Wants us to be laying our own accord.
Speaker 1: He said, motherfucker you better just because how how does
Speaker 1: a person become lawyeral you? I think we're I think
Speaker 1: we're chasing our tails at this point. Absolutely not, absolutely not.
Speaker 1: The point that's being made is that the Creator wants
Speaker 1: you to respect him. If he wanted you to be
Speaker 1: lawyer you, he would have just made you lower you
Speaker 1: in a road by he puts you in life to
Speaker 1: understand or also everything that you go through in life.
Speaker 1: But that's assuming the Creator. I want you to believe
Speaker 1: in one God and one God only. That's kind of
Speaker 1: a really selfish name. But we we we're saying that's
Speaker 1: on the premise that the Creator is saying that respect
Speaker 1: and loyalty is a thing. The Creator might not think
Speaker 1: that this is the thing. If you're dealing with with
Speaker 1: the creative. The scripture it actually speaks so no, okay, Well,
Speaker 1: that's why I said, which creator? Each religion has that
Speaker 1: with your god? You know what I'm saying, whichever God?
Speaker 1: That That's why I asked you specifically, what if we're
Speaker 1: talking biblical thing? Yes, I understand from change the subject
Speaker 1: for us, murder mock you murder muck no, because that
Speaker 1: will be spoke for me. I'll be points sure, brom.
Speaker 1: From the beginning of this ship, y'all, like I'm I
Speaker 1: was the realest nigger in this ship. I need you
Speaker 1: to know what was going on. I would like to battle.
Speaker 1: Rap was cool until math came. It was cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Oh that's cute. They're dissing each other. That's cute. When
Speaker 1: when I came on and serious, it was intense. It
Speaker 1: was what are they gonna talk about? Who are you going,
Speaker 1: what's gonna be revealed? What's gonna be you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Became something else. And as much as you know,
Speaker 1: shout out the move for for his contributory to the
Speaker 1: culture and how he still you know, it's control of
Speaker 1: that area. But bro, see this battle recently. If you
Speaker 1: don't believe what the nigg is saying, it's just entertainment.
Speaker 1: But when you believe, no, that nigga really do that ship,
Speaker 1: it's different. You feel the pressure. You feel the pressure.
Speaker 1: You did what I'm saying, And that's why I like,
Speaker 1: I feel like, That's why I feel like nothing nigga
Speaker 1: would funk with me period ever in life, in life,
Speaker 1: you know what you gotta you gotta think about something, Bro,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about it, right, I've looked at baddle rap right,
Speaker 1: I'm a jail nigger. I'm the resident jailologist. I'm the
Speaker 1: resident jailologists right. Unfortunately, but when you look at if
Speaker 1: you look at results, you look at results in comparison
Speaker 1: to what was happening at the time, then you can
Speaker 1: make a sound decision on your own. Look at the results.
Speaker 1: Look at the escalation of ship. Right. Let this factually fun? Funk?
Speaker 1: How I feel fun that I'm not trying. I'm not
Speaker 1: being biased because I work with math. No, look at
Speaker 1: the results, So why didn't date them about it? Is
Speaker 1: just scared and elevated? He elevated, b know while I
Speaker 1: was there, it was scared. When I left, I monitor funk.
Speaker 1: I need to hold another frequency, bro. Yeah, it's definitely
Speaker 1: it's definitely much understand what is gonna happen. It's not
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Bro a garanteam so y'all spoke y'all, y'all
Speaker 1: like y'all was in like because yeah, he was on
Speaker 1: the show. Yes to the side of said it's not
Speaker 1: gonna happen. It's not gonna happen, not because of you.
Speaker 1: That it's never been Yo. I stepped into the ship.
Speaker 1: I stepped into the ship calling yeah, t Rex that
Speaker 1: and that was the start of your roll. So every
Speaker 1: everything that you see, as far as you are, roll
Speaker 1: and Smacking or that started with me and t Rex.
Speaker 1: If we didn't hit, if we didn't do four million
Speaker 1: views on World Star in two days, that might not exist.
Speaker 1: But shout out to Smack because he gave me a
Speaker 1: look before that, you know what I mean. Shout out
Speaker 1: to t Rex also. But it's just different when the
Speaker 1: nigga damn, how can I put it? If murder mucus
Speaker 1: Floyd Maywether, who are you in batagraph? If murder much
Speaker 1: is Floyd Mayweather? Horma Muhammad Ali? I'm a Hummed Ali
Speaker 1: to that. But but but there's a difference between the
Speaker 1: nigger who made the most bread and the nigger who
Speaker 1: stood for something and change people's perceptions on how to
Speaker 1: view life. Is that murder book who made the most bread?
Speaker 1: I don't. I would say so, I would say as
Speaker 1: far as like the Battle Rappers, but then you know,
Speaker 1: unfortunately the way battle rappers. Structured Cassidy might have made
Speaker 1: more more bread than you do. What I'm saying, But
Speaker 1: when you think about people who change your perception on life,
Speaker 1: that's math period, results, period, results, period, the rest, a
Speaker 1: piece of backsteps, the piece backstairs. Even look at Noory
Speaker 1: right now. You're not a bad rapper. You're not a rapper.
Speaker 1: But when on the track, niggas, yeah, really do that?
Speaker 1: Should it hit different? And you want to make it
Speaker 1: this y'all spray you what the forty is? But but
Speaker 1: you know what I was saying was like back in
Speaker 1: the day when you said I'm from well Hope, you
Speaker 1: said couldn't talk about it, FI live it. That was
Speaker 1: real for me. That's the vibe. So when niget stand
Speaker 1: in front of me and they say all types of
Speaker 1: ridiculous ship and I know, like, come on, my nigger,
Speaker 1: I'll put your call over your head. Stop it right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: shut up, shut up? You know what I mean? Like
Speaker 1: stop stop? It's different? When when when it think about
Speaker 1: a fictional movie and uh an auto biography biography biography movie,
Speaker 1: you know that story is real. It's different. It hit different? Snack,
Speaker 1: Really did this ship hit different? You think what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like watching Alcomex will always be better than watching Indiocracy
Speaker 1: exactly exactly killed that you did, you mean ominous. If
Speaker 1: you want to know how dumb we are, watch Idiocracy.
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen this movie? Ye? This movie ever,
Speaker 1: I feel like and it shows us exactly what we're doing.
Speaker 1: It said that the more technology we get, the dumber
Speaker 1: that we actually get. These motherfucker's. It's just like it's
Speaker 1: like the year twenty seventies seven, right, and everybody it
Speaker 1: was drinking gatorade replaced with gatorade. They're trying to you're
Speaker 1: trying to hold the plants with malta. Dude, ridiculous powers.
Speaker 1: Sid there's a wrestler as president and all that ship
Speaker 1: and he had a Spanish last name and he was black.
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying, Like it's wrestling when they
Speaker 1: no reality. There's just wrestling, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And if we all love wrestling, but at some age
Speaker 1: you realize, you know, he's not really punching that nigger,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like Santa Claus, right, But
Speaker 1: my my question to you know he is you understand
Speaker 1: the process of evolution? Yes? Right? You evolved in many
Speaker 1: different ways. It's right. So when you talk about when
Speaker 1: you when you talk about two different people, totally different people,
Speaker 1: and then you like, again, you look at the results,
Speaker 1: you look at the evolution. You're a fact minded guy.
Speaker 1: You know what it is. Yeah, you know what it is.
Speaker 1: Don't we talk about the murder mook. That's what we're
Speaker 1: talking about. It's no battle. The point is that evolution
Speaker 1: there's starting. There's certain things you just can't say yes
Speaker 1: too because you know, what's a l You just can't
Speaker 1: broad Why am I gonna say yes to that? What
Speaker 1: I'm just saying. But but but I don't feel like
Speaker 1: we should put people under the pressure of like you're
Speaker 1: just running towards that else. You don't need to do that. No, No, realistically,
Speaker 1: don't don't put people in that position. Don't make them
Speaker 1: desperate because they don't go sw what's the next question?
Speaker 1: I just go to the next No, I would love
Speaker 1: to see it. That's that's met together awesome the way
Speaker 1: I put it together. There might be six niggers in
Speaker 1: the world. It's gonna be like, sure, that's what it.
Speaker 1: That's that's exciting. Like me. But I'll tell you what,
Speaker 1: Like I am Solomon, but take both of your battles both.
Speaker 1: Solomon was the eminem. Let's just be clear before you
Speaker 1: move battle them. And he was the eminem and I was.
Speaker 1: But by the way, washing everybody, everybody. I couldn't believe
Speaker 1: it right now, who'll be e solom at first? You
Speaker 1: mean me? You know what, Here's a line from that battle.
Speaker 1: He no thug, you know me from his people's club
Speaker 1: because I don't fu niggers up outside of EEO dub.
Speaker 1: And he moved that, and the people standing with him
Speaker 1: moved that. You did what I'm saying right, good one
Speaker 1: gotta be hype man this ship. Oh, I wasn't mean
Speaker 1: niggers relate to you because as you really was like that. Yes,
Speaker 1: I am not no more. I know that. I know that,
Speaker 1: you know that, we know that. You know We're not
Speaker 1: gonna lie. Now, brothers, I'm gonna be honest. Sean Bigger,
Speaker 1: Um Champ math Mecca, I'm going back us at the bathroom.
Speaker 1: What you're doing is remarkable. What you're doing is taking
Speaker 1: barber shop talk, yeah, really making it world health hunts
Speaker 1: a little, really making it worldwide. I just want to
Speaker 1: salute your brothers. I want to tell y'all continue, continue
Speaker 1: to do your thing, but I also want to tell
Speaker 1: you I'll protect your energy. M hmm, because the bigger
Speaker 1: you get, the more people are gonna want to spread
Speaker 1: false narratives around it, and they're gonna start using and
Speaker 1: everyone is not to be used, and everyone shouldn't have
Speaker 1: the platform. So being careful, like it's a learning lesson,
Speaker 1: and I have nothing wrong to say about any artists,
Speaker 1: but sometimes you gotta like sit back and say, you
Speaker 1: know what, if I do this, I know what this
Speaker 1: result is gonna lead to, and I know the intention
Speaker 1: of the That's the best thing I'm trying to tell
Speaker 1: us to my friends on the time. The best things
Speaker 1: I ever had his relationships, and the best thing I
Speaker 1: ever did was always make friends first, then business partners.
Speaker 1: Because the thing about it is all these people are
Speaker 1: pieces of ship. Right. If they're gonna pick between y'all
Speaker 1: and their family, they're gonna pick their family every time.
Speaker 1: So are you so that that that much pieces of ship?
Speaker 1: Because y'all have the same morals when it comes to that.
Speaker 1: And then you gotta take it from there. You gotta say,
Speaker 1: all right, cool, he's not wrong for saying that him
Speaker 1: and Brenda. He just wants want to about him and
Speaker 1: Brenda because he because we just care about me and
Speaker 1: our family. Right. But you gotta you gotta watch that
Speaker 1: ship because the more powerful you get, the more responsibilities
Speaker 1: you're gonna have, and the more the devil is gonna
Speaker 1: come out side. But the devil, the devil is working
Speaker 1: over time on y'all right now. But for me, it's
Speaker 1: a simple decision for me, thank you all. But for me,
Speaker 1: it's a simple decision. I put my energy into the
Speaker 1: show changed my life. If I put energy into a hater,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna change his life. So why would I do that? Mhm.
Speaker 1: I just let him. Let's see what you could do
Speaker 1: on your own. I ain't got no words from him.
Speaker 1: I don't have to. I responded things that I feel
Speaker 1: like I have to and things that I don't. People
Speaker 1: see it, they'd be like, yeah, man, probably don't gotta
Speaker 1: say nothing to this single And it is what it is.
Speaker 1: So shout out to old you niggas. I hope you
Speaker 1: find your way, and I hope that you realize when
Speaker 1: you get to a point of success to what you
Speaker 1: did to get there might not have been the right thing.
Speaker 1: And that's the way he was moving. That what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: how about you John, Um? You you you being on camera,
Speaker 1: I can just tell you a street dude, like I
Speaker 1: can tell um, I can tell you from my error.
Speaker 1: Like and my error is we don't look at the
Speaker 1: camera direct kind of like like I kid you not
Speaker 1: my whole um first year of n R and I
Speaker 1: went platinum. It's plightly the worst year at me and
Speaker 1: my uncle wise, um, all of my my, my friends.
Speaker 1: We took no pictures. We thought pictures was tracked that
Speaker 1: you didn't take yo, old we were all over the worlds.
Speaker 1: He was like, you know how corny niggas we were
Speaker 1: back then, And I said, well, he said, yo, we
Speaker 1: purposely didn't take pictures. We have nothing documented but memories.
Speaker 1: And I said, that's kind of better than this error.
Speaker 1: Right now, I go and perform. No one's looking at me,
Speaker 1: They're going like this. I wanted to kick their fucking phone.
Speaker 1: Is you doing that? I'm killing it? Yeah, why you
Speaker 1: want to document it for later? But so um, yeah,
Speaker 1: like you said, and our error, that's how it was.
Speaker 1: Now how you adapt into like this fame and people?
Speaker 1: It was so I just launched about the that thing
Speaker 1: and all of that and the people that react and
Speaker 1: reading the comment learned about the internet. Yeah, pretty much
Speaker 1: the internet with the INSTAGRAMM actually school, I am still
Speaker 1: you know, pretty much on that. You know, if I
Speaker 1: have Facebook's private and it was only for my family
Speaker 1: members that you know, that's like you have a Facebook, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you have a Twitter? I had no, you have a Instagram? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Because he said time out, let me just do you.
Speaker 1: This is if you ever want to dose a negativity Twitter.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, dudn't even elon Musk. It's worse, way worse.
Speaker 1: It's racist now it wasn't racist really on it like that?
Speaker 1: What stay away, yo? Let me tell you something. I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry because I'm gonna sound crazy, but I wake up.
Speaker 1: I don't even brush my teeth. He's a Twitter, dude, Twitter,
Speaker 1: I'm so addictive that the first half an hour that
Speaker 1: you wake up, he shouldn't be on you don't be
Speaker 1: on social media. Let me tell you. I'm getting some energy.
Speaker 1: Let me get you something better, right, Me andes you
Speaker 1: should live in the same building. Right. So one day,
Speaker 1: you know, we're having breakfast. Bino wakes up in the
Speaker 1: morning and he goes on Twitter and he googles his
Speaker 1: own name. I don't even know how you could do this,
Speaker 1: so you can look you know how. You don't know
Speaker 1: how you can do because because this is the messages
Speaker 1: that they're not adding you, they're not adding you. He
Speaker 1: knows how to pull up the messages where he responds
Speaker 1: to every to get im for that. That's kind of like,
Speaker 1: I've never seen nobody more negative than this in my life.
Speaker 1: You can go negative, be that negative all the way.
Speaker 1: I got to say, shout out to toler qualities. Does
Speaker 1: that Twitter fingers? I don't know. He's a definition of Twitter.
Speaker 1: He's by the way, he's every finger that's just Twitter.
Speaker 1: Everything he finds every racist bro doesn't have click the
Speaker 1: farm helping him. Then he's at it's him. I got tiplates,
Speaker 1: actually got timplates. A ready asked him about that and
Speaker 1: he smiled and I was like, yeah, that nigga like
Speaker 1: And we interviewed him Dave Chabelle at which was and
Speaker 1: when when we broke it up, they all laughed at him.
Speaker 1: They was all like, no, don't get tired. Started he
Speaker 1: goes in. He goes in. So you guys, you don't
Speaker 1: have a Twitter, I recommend you get a Twitter. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be honest with now. I don't get don't get
Speaker 1: a Twitter. Don is enough. Let me tell you why
Speaker 1: I like Twitter. Listen, let me tell you why I
Speaker 1: like Twitter way on the Instagram way more than um
Speaker 1: and I don't know much or another. Okay, thanks for
Speaker 1: thanks for that. I don't have a hitcut. I ain't
Speaker 1: going on Instagram. If I don't like feel good about life,
Speaker 1: I ain't going on Instagram. I could be fucked up.
Speaker 1: This is my mind is whatever, And I go on Twitter.
Speaker 1: It's somebody so much worse than me. There's somebody like
Speaker 1: I just little my dog following sucking some guy named
Speaker 1: Chucky you know c Twitter and not look and Terry
Speaker 1: Springer you used to think your life was sucked up
Speaker 1: and you go on Jerry No good. Now Twitter's like
Speaker 1: the dirty section of social media. All right, that's regular Twitter.
Speaker 1: Right then there's black Twitter right right where I don't
Speaker 1: give a funk what you do. You're wrong, you don't
Speaker 1: make it. Nobody happy, nobody, nobody sitter. I could put
Speaker 1: the picture of my dog the dog game doing ship
Speaker 1: your dog? Who told you that I enjoy it? I
Speaker 1: enjoy your dog? I enjoyed it because my life is
Speaker 1: really positive. I'm really living a great life, and I
Speaker 1: need to know. Do not be comfortable, sir, Do not
Speaker 1: get comfortable because yourself every day post your picture with
Speaker 1: you and a bottle of water saying I'm living life
Speaker 1: and the nigga I need. Don't you ever get comfortable?
Speaker 1: And all there's a paid out there right there, and
Speaker 1: he likes you, but he's talking crazy right now. Don't
Speaker 1: get comfortable at all. That's the hood, that's not that's
Speaker 1: the hood. That's the world. It's the world, just the hood,
Speaker 1: that's the world. I recommend it wholeheartedly. Got no mercy
Speaker 1: against anyone who hates on me because if you knew,
Speaker 1: could I have no fucking shoes for months in Barbados? Yes?
Speaker 1: Why would you hate on me if you knew? If
Speaker 1: you if you knew that I had to get adjusted
Speaker 1: to the New York school system getting jumped and get
Speaker 1: into fights every single day, why would you hate on me?
Speaker 1: If you knew? I came from the fucking bottom and
Speaker 1: I made something? Why would you hate on me? Makes
Speaker 1: no sense? I got a real question for you. Did
Speaker 1: you ever win? Didja making belts? Yes? Jeans? You j
Speaker 1: West especially yes, yes, everything, get everything. So while I
Speaker 1: got my friends from how I was out from Nasal,
Speaker 1: I mean a low square More was Illa then sum
Speaker 1: kind of like, what do you do? Hurt me so much?
Speaker 1: I got I gotta be honest with you, Homie Troy
Speaker 1: outlaws to bring read the Farragan Farragant for Greeen was
Speaker 1: right next to each other. By the way, It's the
Speaker 1: craziest thing ever. It was totally. I felt like I
Speaker 1: was in Like I was gonna say Disney World, but
Speaker 1: I mean by that Disney World. What I mean is
Speaker 1: I was totally I didn't even and I went to
Speaker 1: a more how do We Square mall and the guy
Speaker 1: in there said I got dent to Gold and I
Speaker 1: was like, dent to good I had never heard. He
Speaker 1: can't about to see food, y'all to me, I don't
Speaker 1: even know. I went and I came back because because
Speaker 1: I got friends, and it was so thin and no
Speaker 1: one in Queens, no one in Queens could understand, and
Speaker 1: I was like, we got thats like Syracuse. I'm sorry, man,
Speaker 1: I just told my mold school. Downtown Brooklyn is crazy.
Speaker 1: There's fifty niggers out there. When you walked in there, right,
Speaker 1: it's not the same. It's not it's not, but no
Speaker 1: places the same. But you can still get robbed though.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, definitely, you turn the wrong corner and you
Speaker 1: can still get robbed. I was talking, go ahead, go
Speaker 1: go go to Brooklyn. He's like, and that's okay. I
Speaker 1: mean I missed that part Brooklyn. I went to a
Speaker 1: soho house in Brooklyn, like, oh, downtown by the Bridge, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean downhole house that along in Brooklyn, but down
Speaker 1: they don't have a soul house in compon next week.
Speaker 1: I'm just it's probably gentification is rare. It can we
Speaker 1: get to? Why the opposite way? Can we go? I
Speaker 1: don't believe in gentrification, is why you don't Jesus classism classes.
Speaker 1: If you got the money to stay, stay, But what
Speaker 1: is gentrification to you? Gentrification? Does that mean to you?
Speaker 1: It's called gentrification because I feel like this is a
Speaker 1: specific race who has more money. You think that's exactly
Speaker 1: what it means. I'm not saying that's what it means.
Speaker 1: I'm saying when people say gentrification, it's not completely just
Speaker 1: if you got the money to stay where you at,
Speaker 1: you could, you're gonna stay. But if you don't write
Speaker 1: because money is buying the people out that ricing you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so so you gotta go to where it makes sense
Speaker 1: for you. So when I when when I went to Columbia,
Speaker 1: I went to this area called you know, but I
Speaker 1: did a drink chance from Columbia. We didn't remember that.
Speaker 1: You don't remember that I went to one of the
Speaker 1: word hoods and columb be that during the cartel wars
Speaker 1: and everything. No, it was, uh, where do we go, Paul? Paul?
Speaker 1: We went to Oh my god, he's not helping. Did
Speaker 1: you go to Choko? We were in many Yang were Manian?
Speaker 1: What was the place in the end we went to
Speaker 1: But y'all was on cocaine and you hold on Colombia.
Speaker 1: So we went to this is this is h Escobar's
Speaker 1: territory where he had the gangs fighting and they had
Speaker 1: they had a crazy war in there. It was one
Speaker 1: of the worst spots in like late nineties. Hip hop
Speaker 1: actually changed everything there. So um, the hip hop community
Speaker 1: did graffiti that that changed everything that they had be
Speaker 1: boys they had, they didn't get an outlet. They hit
Speaker 1: for artistic ex It was wild. Like at the documentary,
Speaker 1: like you can watch it like right now, I'm sucked
Speaker 1: up and I can't explain it totally. But this is
Speaker 1: where I realized there is reverse gentrification because what they did,
Speaker 1: the government was part of it, So you might need
Speaker 1: government help. The government put because in Colombia, the way
Speaker 1: I saw it is the higher you got out in
Speaker 1: the mountain, the worst it was. Right, So the more
Speaker 1: poverty was up in other places, the higher you got up,
Speaker 1: the richer it was. But in Colombia, in this specific area,
Speaker 1: higher up it was worse. So they actually put um
Speaker 1: escalators in the hood, going up into the hood, escalators, elevators,
Speaker 1: had escalators the side of the mountain, escalators going into
Speaker 1: the mountain into the to the side of the hill. No,
Speaker 1: so you go into this area and we were in
Speaker 1: there and you and then they have a tour of
Speaker 1: the graffiti there. There's kids that are be boys and
Speaker 1: be girls. DJs are set up, they have artisans with
Speaker 1: with because now it's a tourist trap for the better
Speaker 1: sense of what a tourist trap is, but because the
Speaker 1: escalators there, but it's the people that lived there. You're
Speaker 1: focused whole time. Both y'all know. The point is that
Speaker 1: there is I do believe that there's a way for
Speaker 1: reverse gentrification where the hood can control their ship. Because
Speaker 1: they did it. We saw it with our own eyes
Speaker 1: in Colombia, no government assisted in was well the government has.
Speaker 1: It's like saying no, it's like saying independent or major
Speaker 1: there is no independence in this world. You can't. But
Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen bro to minorities brought in. He
Speaker 1: made off from Lauraton enough money to have their own country,
Speaker 1: made off from Queen's It's Fat made off documentary which
Speaker 1: made off. You ain't seen the Doctor Netflix? All know
Speaker 1: why you seen it? Your story? Is that ship mean?
Speaker 1: Or what's a fat? Yo? But by the way, that's
Speaker 1: the first person I've ever seen they confiscated his ship,
Speaker 1: his wife, ship, his sonship. It's other. They confiscated everything
Speaker 1: from They don't do that to white people. That's the
Speaker 1: first time I've ever seen it. It's usually they just
Speaker 1: do it to him and that's it. They let his
Speaker 1: wife was in a Honda Accord, living in the Honda Accord.
Speaker 1: That's fat. She was living in living in Honda. You're
Speaker 1: gonna watch the ship. This is crazy twice, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: This You ain't talking it like that? No, it's heavy.
Speaker 1: I ain't watching. That showed me a lot. I didn't know.
Speaker 1: What's crazy is what you didn't know. He did this
Speaker 1: for thirty years. He would take your money and make
Speaker 1: you feel like you made money. He'll be like yo, whatever,
Speaker 1: and you would give him back your money. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: took somebody's money. You got nothing. He just like you
Speaker 1: listen on your I'll just give you a example. I
Speaker 1: was just giving false numbers, like you're on your thirty
Speaker 1: grand I already made like sixty sixty such and such
Speaker 1: for it, So you want me to um whatever whatever.
Speaker 1: You're like, no, no, no, take it because you feel
Speaker 1: like you want to keep making money. So he did
Speaker 1: it with thirty years. And it's crazy because these people
Speaker 1: were reinvested. What's crazy about it with one of the
Speaker 1: first things we learned about brother Kanye is that Chase
Speaker 1: cut their ties with him. Chase is still tied to
Speaker 1: this man, to Bernie to Bernie. That's crazy. They never
Speaker 1: stopped their bank account with him. They said, we didn't know.
Speaker 1: That's it. They had no lawsuit, there's nothing filed against them.
Speaker 1: There was nothing, and they were still in business. This
Speaker 1: is crazy, bro and Kanye hurt. No one, Kanye took
Speaker 1: No One's house. Uh he he none of that. I
Speaker 1: think Google said something very important on my show. You said,
Speaker 1: stop saying Yeah, young Google tried to google mixing my project. Um, damn,
Speaker 1: it's awsome on us, you know what I mean? He said,
Speaker 1: we need to stop saying the illuminati. That's true, that's true.
Speaker 1: You don't want to say no. But we actually find
Speaker 1: the names of the people that's behind certain ship that
Speaker 1: holds people back. You can't create the booget man and
Speaker 1: that you can't find it there. You can't find illuminati.
Speaker 1: You don't know what to do to escape going your problems.
Speaker 1: But there is a motherfucker out there that's trying to
Speaker 1: pass a bill that's gonna sunk us soul up, and
Speaker 1: we can find him, right, So find his name, put
Speaker 1: his ship in the circuit, and be like, yo, fuck
Speaker 1: this guy. You know what I mean? They claim, y'all,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, definitely we all right the whole video the
Speaker 1: man brought me in. That's what they say, video the
Speaker 1: man brought me in. I didn't know that, but we're
Speaker 1: all in it, right. Yeah, listen, you know what really
Speaker 1: just in hip hop that's was so fucked up if
Speaker 1: you're successful, it's either you're gay, you're with a little
Speaker 1: or you're gay. But that's a loser. But that's a
Speaker 1: loser mentality because losers are gonna come up with every
Speaker 1: reason of why they can't win, but their reasons when
Speaker 1: they put out the videos, it is pretty good true.
Speaker 1: I believe they're like yo, They're like when they tell
Speaker 1: me what Nori did with nas in the room and
Speaker 1: then puffing, I was like, bro, you're right ship hanging
Speaker 1: out with yo. They caught a picture with me and
Speaker 1: meth Man. I went like this, but they caught my
Speaker 1: fingers bent and he was like, look he's throwing up
Speaker 1: the six six six and he's I was like, what
Speaker 1: the full I'm gonna tell them right now like you are.
Speaker 1: I'm the leader of the cartime. I was playing around
Speaker 1: about this. There's a kid in the agastar right now, like, damn,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be it's gonna be a two second clips
Speaker 1: that we are in. It's gonna be your fans here.
Speaker 1: We are in the limit. We are. That's crazy. But
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like when when other person say
Speaker 1: that they're downgrading your hard work, that's a scapego. It's
Speaker 1: a scapegir. But so I'm gonna tell you something right
Speaker 1: about this this show, right, this show Math, How for
Speaker 1: Mecca Bigger? I sit back on the show. I came
Speaker 1: on the show with about in the summertime, right a
Speaker 1: few months ago. I sat back and watched an organization
Speaker 1: of things that was unprecedented as far as my experience. Right,
Speaker 1: I sat and watched Math be calculated in strategic I
Speaker 1: watched Mecca come with wisdom, right, wisdom and knowledge of
Speaker 1: the game experience. I watched Mecca be a person who
Speaker 1: takes a stand and stands on his his word right
Speaker 1: and actually his beliefs in his beliefs right, and his
Speaker 1: fear of God and his belief in God. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying with Bigger, So sit back and
Speaker 1: watching this makes for a great pot of greatness. It
Speaker 1: makes for a great part of greatness. And that's why
Speaker 1: so many people in an intimate environment. Right. First of all,
Speaker 1: the Ballshop is an intimate intimate environment. Right, sitting there
Speaker 1: having these conversations, there's there's no editing of sorts or whatever.
Speaker 1: If you're sitting in your living room and you're watching
Speaker 1: the show, there's an intimacy. Then whether you with your boys,
Speaker 1: or you're in the studio, or you with your your
Speaker 1: loved one. So what this does is it helps you
Speaker 1: relate to the show more. You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: This is why again, you know, motherfucker's can't say it enough.
Speaker 1: It's it's number one as far as the independent round.
Speaker 1: And we respect that because people connect to the intimacy
Speaker 1: of it, no freaking, no freaky, they connect to that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I just I just
Speaker 1: gotta put that out there. We connected that. But but
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna also tell you something. I also tell
Speaker 1: you something. Um, he's an independent guy, right if it
Speaker 1: wants to own a hundred percent of everything, which is great.
Speaker 1: I'm a major guy, right, I can own fifty percent
Speaker 1: of a major company and I'm and I'm good with that,
Speaker 1: right And as I like what he said, I'm with
Speaker 1: the major as long as the major's with me. I'm
Speaker 1: paraphrasing what you say. But um, and that's really what
Speaker 1: it is. It's like I've been platinum, all right. Being
Speaker 1: platinum is probably one of the illest feelings you ever had.
Speaker 1: I wish it on any And I'm gonna tell you something.
Speaker 1: When I sold crack, nothing can replace that feeling. So
Speaker 1: when a person is still selling crack, will still being
Speaker 1: a drug dealer. I understand that because it's not the money,
Speaker 1: it's the thrill. It's the thrill of me saying you'll
Speaker 1: come to the corner. Yeah, I got this, I got
Speaker 1: and and nothing can replace that until I went until
Speaker 1: I went gold. When I got gold, it replaced that feeling.
Speaker 1: Then it's a time in the rapper's life where it's
Speaker 1: not gonna happen again. Stop. I could not replace that
Speaker 1: I was sold until a party game. I can literally
Speaker 1: go platinum every week week, den't know how hard. And
Speaker 1: it's it's got so great that we take days off
Speaker 1: like we do ship and to be like, let's let's
Speaker 1: interview that, y'all because we know that, y'all we can't
Speaker 1: help it, but let's give him that platform where and
Speaker 1: we take a day though, And it's so thrilling because
Speaker 1: this is the easiest money I've ever made. Not not
Speaker 1: saying that don't work hard. I work hard as a motherfucker.
Speaker 1: But what it is is I'm talking like when I
Speaker 1: work right rhyme, So I gotta sit there, I gotta
Speaker 1: I gotta show down. It's rhyme, no rhyme with this,
Speaker 1: or I ain't say this like this committed to memory.
Speaker 1: And then yeah, well, well I don't remember I shipping
Speaker 1: the one. I'll be trying to think I'm holding him
Speaker 1: negatively the performance he said, I was thinking a joke.
Speaker 1: But um, yeah, and this it's such a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1: Man Um, I'm so glad where y'all at and where
Speaker 1: y'all continue to go and continue to grow, because because
Speaker 1: I just I'll tell you, man, Um, being great by
Speaker 1: yourself is cool, being great with the team is so
Speaker 1: much better, you know what I mean? Like I don't
Speaker 1: want to go on vacation by myself and I gotta
Speaker 1: pay for the bill. Like my people, I want to
Speaker 1: put them in a position for them to say, Sean,
Speaker 1: this is on me. And I know I'm saying that
Speaker 1: in the most minute situation, but it's really true. It
Speaker 1: really feels good to empower someone else and to make
Speaker 1: them the boss. You know what I'm saying, to make
Speaker 1: them You know, I always say and I probably never
Speaker 1: said it to E F and or around and my
Speaker 1: relationship with capone made my relationship with EF so much better.
Speaker 1: How so because I always just Be'm trying to make
Speaker 1: a Poem like me. I wanted him to be on time.
Speaker 1: I wanted him to be punctual. I wanted him to
Speaker 1: and that's not who he is. That's not And every
Speaker 1: time I pushed him to beat to us that we
Speaker 1: separated so I don't change the e f and at all,
Speaker 1: this motherfucker don't want to change. I want to roll
Speaker 1: up this motherfucker. I don't want He just wants to
Speaker 1: be him. But had I not. Yeah, but I've been
Speaker 1: through it with Poem, trying to make him like me
Speaker 1: and realize to just relax with the yall. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's a beautiful thing. And and I'm
Speaker 1: proud of that ship. I actually proud because but now us,
Speaker 1: you know, you look at these people and it looks
Speaker 1: like we're hanging out with people. Damn there seventy percent
Speaker 1: of these people are on pay road. They all got dropped.
Speaker 1: They're all here, seven of them, and they all looked
Speaker 1: like us. You know what I mean. We was We
Speaker 1: was able to do that. We was able to um
Speaker 1: and pick up a vote for that because because when
Speaker 1: we got a vote, we vote hired this whole staff,
Speaker 1: and we was like, move me to the check but
Speaker 1: and we looked and it's you know, relaxed. But Mr
Speaker 1: Lee and has it is and you know our roster.
Speaker 1: I just told him, Man, just watched them. Man, let's watch.
Speaker 1: Let's see what they are doing. And we realized day
Speaker 1: smarter than us fire day holes, Well, let me go,
Speaker 1: and we hired our people back, the same people that
Speaker 1: was here. And you know that it reminds of the
Speaker 1: realness that y'all displaying, Like you know, you're my friend. Um,
Speaker 1: I think this is the first time I met you, right,
Speaker 1: I think this is the first time. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you hadn't no suit, I think I have you think
Speaker 1: I'm boy. But and I watch y'all man, and I
Speaker 1: sit back, and I'm proud, not only proud of you,
Speaker 1: I'm proud of the older brothers. I'm proud of like
Speaker 1: and y'rself from the same thing that we suffer from
Speaker 1: female guests. Mm hmm. We do need some more females. Man.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just area this time because we say
Speaker 1: reckless around each other. But if you say, yeah, we
Speaker 1: have read me twice. Okay, okay, whoa whoa? Whoa, whoa. No,
Speaker 1: we had her on the show. I said, hold, my
Speaker 1: brother might boot for me on too low Brock. She's
Speaker 1: making around. I'm okay with it, okay with shout to
Speaker 1: Mike Booth what Yeah, I would, I would too, I
Speaker 1: would mean and you know what I want to I
Speaker 1: want to apologize to it too, because I saw a
Speaker 1: fifty put out an apology. What you went at Megan too.
Speaker 1: We didn't believe him. We did not believe he bro
Speaker 1: We We didn't believe him. She needed more people. She
Speaker 1: definitely need more people, but she didn't really need more people.
Speaker 1: She we just needed to hear that. That that jail
Speaker 1: conversation that was not good. Yeah, Pops got a hill cut,
Speaker 1: Lord Jesus, But I want to publicly apologize to me
Speaker 1: in because you know, it's black men we're supposed to
Speaker 1: protect on women, and I feel like I feeled in
Speaker 1: that category as far as, like, you know, the things
Speaker 1: that I said on our podcast, I just I just
Speaker 1: didn't believe. I just didn't believe you got puppy. It
Speaker 1: was not it was it was look at you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just a serious moment you ain't for I'm almost disappointed.
Speaker 1: What did you say, I got me disappointed right now,
Speaker 1: I gotta say that, you know, um, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry for what you went through. I'm sorry for what
Speaker 1: you went through. I'm sorry for you know, for that
Speaker 1: coming from a black man, and yeah, I apologize. Do
Speaker 1: you think do you think and by the way, Tories,
Speaker 1: my man, Tory's been in here, do you think Tori
Speaker 1: didn't take it serious? Like at one point he felt asleep?
Speaker 1: I think in court, like, I don't think you're taking
Speaker 1: your life seriously? Fell to sleep in court? I think Tori,
Speaker 1: what what you know? But with both of them, I
Speaker 1: hope they find better places in their lives because we've
Speaker 1: seen plenty of artists go through ship. We saw Chris
Speaker 1: and Rihanna go through the ship and then you know,
Speaker 1: look at with a now. So hopefully we can get
Speaker 1: to that space. But we do need to do more
Speaker 1: about it's just misusing each other, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We need to acknowledge that we're human beings and some
Speaker 1: of us come with traumas, and those traumas because sometimes
Speaker 1: lead people in the wrong direction. To the more we
Speaker 1: work on mental health, I feel like that will better
Speaker 1: us as a culture. And you know, it's crazy. We
Speaker 1: old Canada so much favors. Canada could have stepped in. Canada,
Speaker 1: Canada the country because he's a Canada. He's a Canadian,
Speaker 1: so get it. But you said we owe them or
Speaker 1: they us. But yeah, like I mean, Canada could have
Speaker 1: stepped in. But it's violence. Violence. They can't. They can't
Speaker 1: do that. They can't. But like if he would have
Speaker 1: got caught with Keylos, I think Canada would have flex.
Speaker 1: They must have like they did the switch with the Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: what's the what's what's the The Russian ship was wild.
Speaker 1: But another thing I want to say, by the way
Speaker 1: they traded a basketball player for Killer. That was hard,
Speaker 1: not just not just a killer like a killer Homie
Speaker 1: Bodies weapons game was crazy. He funded wars. But that's
Speaker 1: that's the part that everybody looks over. He was getting
Speaker 1: out in a couple more months. Anyway. I think he
Speaker 1: had been in there for a minute. He was about
Speaker 1: to get planned already. Bro. But I'm gonna tell you something.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna tell you something still Glass. Yes,
Speaker 1: my last conversation with Kanye before like he kind of
Speaker 1: like went dark was That's what he told me. He
Speaker 1: said he's going to he's had it to Russia that
Speaker 1: to meet with Putin too, free Home girl. Yeah, whatever,
Speaker 1: whichever way, whichever way it happened, Kanye was the first
Speaker 1: person to put it in. Putin here's a question for
Speaker 1: both of y'all. And I don't know if Kanye told
Speaker 1: me that off the record. So if I said that,
Speaker 1: by get I can y'all see ourselves doing it like that,
Speaker 1: doing like what going to meet with rulers the whole county? Yeah,
Speaker 1: hell yeah, hell yeah. And it was sucked up. I
Speaker 1: smoked weed in Russia with him. Me and him were
Speaker 1: in Russian That was the most terrifying thing in the world.
Speaker 1: That was the most racist ever been in my planet. Listen,
Speaker 1: they're so racist. Listen, listen, but so racist they can't
Speaker 1: even look at you. What do you mean this? And
Speaker 1: this is how dope it was. At the same time,
Speaker 1: the promoters that booked us booked him. I was his
Speaker 1: DJ and the manager. The same time the promoters that
Speaker 1: booked us. You want to know what they said? Hold up, okay,
Speaker 1: I gotta say it. Let him say it. Russians against racism.
Speaker 1: I said, We're fucked you. If you got a rear
Speaker 1: button that says Russ's against racist. We don't belong here.
Speaker 1: And by the way, by the way, about the story
Speaker 1: with the soccer gang, Oh, hold on, I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: to that. By the way, let me just tell you
Speaker 1: how crazy it was. Right, we forget that. They just
Speaker 1: look at us like Americans is no west coast, there
Speaker 1: is no east. So the guy comes and picks us
Speaker 1: up in a six fourth chef. He was cool though
Speaker 1: he was I was like, what, I don't want to
Speaker 1: we don't drop. He had of a tony touch of
Speaker 1: mix tape, A no rider. You know. That's that's that's why,
Speaker 1: that's why we should never hate on each other, because
Speaker 1: outside of us, everyone looks at us and saying what
Speaker 1: he's saying. It's so ill. I'm gonna be honest. We
Speaker 1: just kicked went in to Hawaii. How was it? Me?
Speaker 1: My friend Diego, um, and they were racist. Diego is
Speaker 1: my white friend. He literally sometimes when we're jogging, her
Speaker 1: walk in front of a car because he's white. He
Speaker 1: got that privilege. They're not gonna end. Don't even look,
Speaker 1: they're not gonna hit them. They were racist. Ago I've
Speaker 1: never seen he literally bought a drink and came up
Speaker 1: to him and said, you can't drink on the dance floor.
Speaker 1: Little bars the dance floor, they go, what the you mean?
Speaker 1: I come out like literally and I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: they literally hate Americans. It's America though, And now so
Speaker 1: he's crazy. This is crazy. I come home and I
Speaker 1: watched the show called White Lotus. Anybody ever seen the
Speaker 1: show called White Lotus. They just wanna golden Globe. I
Speaker 1: want to Oscar, whatever the funk it is. And then
Speaker 1: in in White Lotus, the lady says, oh, I want
Speaker 1: to leave because and it's deep. Is deep, she said,
Speaker 1: but why would I stay here? These guys store our
Speaker 1: land and then they make us dance for them for dinner.
Speaker 1: So when you eat dinner in Hawaii ya, But so
Speaker 1: the girl was like, yo, I don't want to watch this.
Speaker 1: This guys stole these guys land and now they gotta
Speaker 1: dance for them for dinner. It is deep. So no,
Speaker 1: it gets worse, It gets worse, It gets worse. So
Speaker 1: now we're in the hotel, we're walking through diegos blended in.
Speaker 1: It's nothing but me Mike does he blended in gout
Speaker 1: doesn't see him. I got us to see him. Guy
Speaker 1: walks by and goes, there's too many fucking white people
Speaker 1: in the pool. It's the only place in America. They
Speaker 1: raised it the white people. And Dio Diego wants something.
Speaker 1: He goes, does he see him right here? Because he's
Speaker 1: blended in with black people, he felt so comfortable saying
Speaker 1: that it suits crazy. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I went,
Speaker 1: I went, I went to far No, I was amazing. No,
Speaker 1: it's crazy because you don't know. And in the world.
Speaker 1: Step to me, a whale, step to you, you said,
Speaker 1: a well, yeah, step to you. What kind of whale?
Speaker 1: He posted that on this ground. Yeah, I ain't like it.
Speaker 1: What kind of way? What do you mean? Step to you?
Speaker 1: These three pit bulls in the hood, step to me? Okay,
Speaker 1: I like this story. First it was three three pit
Speaker 1: bulls came running out cries. Right. So so in between
Speaker 1: cries this, these these private houses. It's like a little
Speaker 1: area where you feel like, oh, ship, I want to
Speaker 1: have a house like this one day, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So I would take chicks on walks through
Speaker 1: that neighborhood and like be like, yeah, we're gonna get
Speaker 1: this down, We're gonna do this, bring back to the
Speaker 1: apartment and smash you know what I mean. But one day,
Speaker 1: me and three of my homeboys just walking through there,
Speaker 1: and the dogs came running out from one of those houses.
Speaker 1: I turned around and looked at him, and I started
Speaker 1: talking like, Tony Montana, you're a Cuban. I told you
Speaker 1: a long time. Yeah, I said, you want to play man?
Speaker 1: And they stopped. They were balking and running the top
Speaker 1: speed and they stopped. It was like, oh, ship, he's
Speaker 1: not scared. All right, we out of here. And I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, that's how you turned around, my homies.
Speaker 1: It was down the block. But yeah, you put pitbows
Speaker 1: pressed me in. It's a whale step to me. A well,
Speaker 1: but step, How does a whale step to you in
Speaker 1: the ocean? Yeah, you don't like you were scooping to you.
Speaker 1: What did he step to you? Yeah, that's the saying ship.
Speaker 1: Look because they By the way, by the way, my wife,
Speaker 1: my wife never said well watching nothing. She said, we're
Speaker 1: taking her sunset cruise. I say, okay, that sounds cool.
Speaker 1: And then you get to the remember the last dragon,
Speaker 1: Remember last dragon? And they said, and there ain't no
Speaker 1: coming back. We got to the level where they ain't
Speaker 1: no coming back. And then and then they said, well,
Speaker 1: this is where the whales is that? So these motherfucker's
Speaker 1: turned off the engine. We don't want to scare the whales.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, how about the whales? Scaler and me right,
Speaker 1: So they're like, looking, it's over there, and then the
Speaker 1: whale comes up. Damn, they just come straight to the
Speaker 1: y'all straight to you come on the front of the
Speaker 1: boat smoking weed because that's the only place you can
Speaker 1: smoke on the is the front. So me and might
Speaker 1: move and I got up and I just moved away.
Speaker 1: I said, oh, this is not good. And then the
Speaker 1: whale said and then he flew under the boat. But
Speaker 1: by the way, let me just tell you pause, let
Speaker 1: me tell you how pauls Let me say how big
Speaker 1: the well was that he flew under the boat. Everybody
Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is neat. I was like, this
Speaker 1: is not neat at all. Lean is filming from one
Speaker 1: side from the other side, they have the same view.
Speaker 1: That's how big. Like all he had to do was
Speaker 1: and everyone else is no one's no one's panicking. Everyone's
Speaker 1: like it was at that very moment I knew I
Speaker 1: was different up drinking my ties I'm like, this is
Speaker 1: And then at one point the well just looked at me.
Speaker 1: He just came. He came straight to and you know
Speaker 1: what the lady. You know what the lady said. You know,
Speaker 1: the lady came to me. I promised you the people
Speaker 1: here co signed the story. Lady came to me and said,
Speaker 1: the whales, no, you don't like them, so that they're
Speaker 1: keep filming them. I said, well, tell the worls that's full.
Speaker 1: I like you, it's not like them. I'm scared. And
Speaker 1: then it's all new. Someone right about this talk. The
Speaker 1: guy takes the mic and he goes think some Micy
Speaker 1: goes listen. We're gonna listen to the whales. Now goes
Speaker 1: into the water and the whales starts speaking. I said this,
Speaker 1: I gotta mix tape. Well, mixed tape and get that clothes.
Speaker 1: I tell you that I wish I was exaggerating any
Speaker 1: part of this story. I am not. I am not.
Speaker 1: There's people here. It's beautiful. Um. That is Maui, one
Speaker 1: of my favorite places on earth, Malui Honolulu. Um, we're
Speaker 1: going to the big Island, big up to Royan artest
Speaker 1: Um world metal piece. Don't go fun with him? He
Speaker 1: got the people additioning that work on direct TV something
Speaker 1: like that. They got a little party, so we wanna
Speaker 1: go out there. Yeah, but man, let me just tell
Speaker 1: y'all want to I know how hard it is to
Speaker 1: operate in this space, and I know how hard it
Speaker 1: is to be important in that space, and I want
Speaker 1: to salute you brothers. Man and man. Tell y'all continue
Speaker 1: to do your thing. What you're doing is right. You're
Speaker 1: on the right path. The fact that you'll just uh
Speaker 1: suffer some controversy. I loved it because it wasn't light
Speaker 1: on you. No. No, I love it because we all
Speaker 1: got experience. Because rain sun is not good unless you
Speaker 1: enjoy the rain too, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: I'm anna manage the rain like I never really cook
Speaker 1: coke good. So when I was a hustler, I had
Speaker 1: to hustle in the rain. Real house is called the
Speaker 1: nigga said cooking good outside of because they got good ship.
Speaker 1: Let's get what I'm saying. You want to be available
Speaker 1: at the worst possible time, because ain't that good? But
Speaker 1: you're gonna make that. I didn't want this ship. Wanting
Speaker 1: ship I was. I was. I was like from four
Speaker 1: to nine, like when no one's outside, So crackhead Brenda,
Speaker 1: she can't really get playing, Like who you else you
Speaker 1: gonna see? You remember Rainskins? I used to have the Rainskins,
Speaker 1: the Columbia Jackets, y'all, the gored text. I used to
Speaker 1: love snow Rain in the morning shift because because I
Speaker 1: knew that was it. But so what I'm trying to
Speaker 1: tell y'all, I'm relating that to y'all is it's very
Speaker 1: hard to be out here. And what's so crazy this
Speaker 1: podcast is the New Rappers, right, you know how everyone
Speaker 1: was wrapped. So, like I said, it's costcos. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean, It's costcos like everyone wants to be
Speaker 1: in costcos. Being in the back of costcos doesn't mean nothing,
Speaker 1: right unless that person is going to look for that.
Speaker 1: So I want to pig y'all up. Every one of y'all. Uh,
Speaker 1: I want you to know that I understand. I want
Speaker 1: you to continue and keep being unapologetic about this ship.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And because um, I love
Speaker 1: that you went through it was styles p because Stus
Speaker 1: is a real person and we we gotta learn, um period,
Speaker 1: that sometimes relationships we got to choose between relationships and media,
Speaker 1: and I had to learn that. I learned it, and
Speaker 1: it's such a bad way that you're learned in a
Speaker 1: such a better way that I enjoy it like I
Speaker 1: enjoy you going through. And it's like the see sail, right,
Speaker 1: the seesaw is not good unless you gotta go wop
Speaker 1: it down and then there's gotta be two people on
Speaker 1: the see sail. See. So can't work by myself. I
Speaker 1: got deep. I ain't gonna lie. I killed that. I
Speaker 1: be right now, Anna like that, but not honestly, honestly,
Speaker 1: for real, what you're doing. It's hard. As a person
Speaker 1: that's been through, I know what you're going through. I
Speaker 1: know what you're gonna continue to go through. It is hard,
Speaker 1: but know that you're on the path of righteousness. Know
Speaker 1: that you're on that yellow brick road. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's gonna lead to Dorothy. Thanks, that's
Speaker 1: where you don't want to go. You don't you don't
Speaker 1: want to go to they, But the rest exists. Thank
Speaker 1: you for saying that. You know what that was. It exists.
Speaker 1: We need to avoid her to get to Dorothy, and
Speaker 1: we need to tap our boots because that's what there's
Speaker 1: no place like home. And you know where home is here.
Speaker 1: It's not a place, it's it's here. And that is
Speaker 1: also taking care of your family, taking care of people.
Speaker 1: D m X at right there when DMX said something
Speaker 1: to me that changed my life forever. I said something
Speaker 1: about an artist in DMX, I can't call him whack.
Speaker 1: And I said why he said, because for everyone artist,
Speaker 1: they feeds sixteen people from the hood. So if I
Speaker 1: call this artist whack, I'm taking away from sixteen people's mouths.
Speaker 1: So I don't call no podcast. Even though a lot
Speaker 1: of you whack out there. I don't take a shot
Speaker 1: the end this out. But I'm telling y'all again, I
Speaker 1: know me and you have very close relationship. A lot
Speaker 1: of people don't know that. We don't really tell people.
Speaker 1: But any time you call I pick up, any time
Speaker 1: I call you pick up, you be there for me too.
Speaker 1: I loved when you called me for Wu Tang when
Speaker 1: I was going through the Remember that I was going
Speaker 1: through the woof tang ship man call me for the car.
Speaker 1: And as much as I know you appreciate me, I
Speaker 1: want you to know I appreciate you. I sit down,
Speaker 1: I take your advice as well. Um it's not just
Speaker 1: it's a see sawt with us. And I respect all
Speaker 1: of you brothers, and I want you to continue to
Speaker 1: do what you gotta do. Keep monkey footing these people
Speaker 1: in they fucking face, keep keeping doing, keep doing it
Speaker 1: because because because y'all on the right path, got it.
Speaker 1: So we can went to the West, go out there
Speaker 1: and go hang out with Dorthy because I feel like
Speaker 1: my wife is already drunk. Thanks for joining us for
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