Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps in Welcome to will Gate f Daily
Speaker 1: with Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording from the Home Bunker, Folks.
Speaker 1: This week, the Supreme Court begins its new session, and
Speaker 1: first I want to acknowledge history. I want to acknowledge
Speaker 1: some good news for a change, which is the fact
Speaker 1: that Justice Katanji Brown Jackson has begun her term as
Speaker 1: a Supreme Court justice, the first black woman to hold
Speaker 1: that esteemed position in the United States. Now for the
Speaker 1: rest of the bad news, which is that, my God,
Speaker 1: do I wish that Katanji Brown Jackson was sitting on
Speaker 1: any other Supreme Court than one that I have no
Speaker 1: no mixed feelings, will go down in history as the
Speaker 1: most corrupt, weaponized, radicalized, far right wing Supreme Court in
Speaker 1: the history of these United States. Now I say that,
Speaker 1: dear friends, I am not a legal scholar. I am
Speaker 1: not a lawyer. And as you have heard me joke before,
Speaker 1: I just watch a lawn order and pretend I know
Speaker 1: a thing or two about a thing or two about
Speaker 1: our legal system, because I surround myself with really smart people.
Speaker 1: But the fact is this, the Supreme Court is taking
Speaker 1: on in this session some of the most fundamentally life
Speaker 1: changing cases that we have seen, same sex marriage and
Speaker 1: the ability of businesses to discriminate against same sex couples,
Speaker 1: affirmative action, and the ability of predominantly why institutions to
Speaker 1: once again turn away people of color and women voting rights.
Speaker 1: Finally doing what it is with the Supreme Court that
Speaker 1: John Eastman wasn't able to do with his PowerPoint presentation
Speaker 1: during the Trump administration and their attempted coup, which is
Speaker 1: turnover national elections and the outcomes of national elections to
Speaker 1: state electors, just totally dismissing the will and the voice
Speaker 1: of Oh, I don't know, hundreds of millions of fucking Americans,
Speaker 1: These nine justices, we're not voted in by the people
Speaker 1: of these United States. And so, finally, with the Dabb's
Speaker 1: decision last June, and with the fact that abortion is
Speaker 1: damned near illegal and criminalized, not even just the legal,
Speaker 1: but criminal in a majority of states in this country,
Speaker 1: would have you recognized that, h are we going to
Speaker 1: go about the business of abiding by laws that we
Speaker 1: know are made by corrupt people in order to keep
Speaker 1: the masses in check and under their thumb? Or are
Speaker 1: we going to begin in particularly in blue states that
Speaker 1: actually believe in the Constitution and believe in precedent, and
Speaker 1: believe in the will of people to say fuck the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court. Because here's the thing. When the body that
Speaker 1: is making the laws of this land becomes corrupt and corroded,
Speaker 1: those laws become corrupt and corroded. And so the question
Speaker 1: then that we all have to ask ourselves is that
Speaker 1: we do we just continue to go along for the
Speaker 1: get along and think that, oh, we'll keep getting at
Speaker 1: this democracy apple, bites at this justice apple when they
Speaker 1: are not even are they have laid the groundwork. They
Speaker 1: own the courts, the far right, white wing in Evangelical Christians,
Speaker 1: and I use white wing. I meant that it was
Speaker 1: not a mistake own the courts. They're about to own
Speaker 1: the House of Representatives, and in less than two years
Speaker 1: may in fact own the White House. So all that
Speaker 1: being said, you don't really need to have a law
Speaker 1: degree to figure out that Jim Crow and you know,
Speaker 1: repealing a woman's right to vote and making it so
Speaker 1: that you have no legal recourse if your boss decides
Speaker 1: to fire you because they don't like your hair, they
Speaker 1: don't like your skin color, and they don't like who
Speaker 1: you're married to. Where you going with that case nowhere?
Speaker 1: Because if it's kicked up to the Supreme Court, there
Speaker 1: is no longer any precedent that says that you have
Speaker 1: any rights in this country if you are a person
Speaker 1: of color, a woman, a queer person. Right, you know,
Speaker 1: the majority of Americans. You see what has happened, folks,
Speaker 1: is that when we started talking in progressive circles. And
Speaker 1: I know this because I was working at the Center
Speaker 1: for American Progress as a senior advisor, and I was
Speaker 1: also working for an environmental organization at the same time.
Speaker 1: When we started to talk about the demographic shift was
Speaker 1: in the early two thousands, and we started to talk
Speaker 1: about the fact that this country is getting browner, not
Speaker 1: necessarily blacker, but browner in terms of the Latin X
Speaker 1: population growing bigger and bigger. It is the fastest growing
Speaker 1: that And then Asian when far right wing racist began
Speaker 1: to hear that, what they actually heard was my privilege
Speaker 1: is going to go away. My ability to oppress, my
Speaker 1: ability to just show up and be white and male
Speaker 1: and straight is no longer going to have the same
Speaker 1: currency that it did if these people, if those people
Speaker 1: become the authority, because you see, white people always believe
Speaker 1: that when people of color get into positions of power,
Speaker 1: that we have the same sentiment and desire to oppress
Speaker 1: and be cruel and vicious in the way that they are.
Speaker 1: That's because they don't know us, because that's not how
Speaker 1: people of color actually operate, not in this country. What
Speaker 1: we have tried to do, and what we have worked
Speaker 1: to do, and what we have fought in the courts
Speaker 1: to do, is to level a playing field for people
Speaker 1: of color in a way that allowed us to move
Speaker 1: aside the purposeful obstacles that were put in our way
Speaker 1: by virtue of white supremacy and capitalism and patriarchy. So
Speaker 1: when the far right and the radicalized white supremacy groups
Speaker 1: began to see this, they said, well, no, we got
Speaker 1: to roll back abortion, which they've been saying. But what
Speaker 1: we weren't listening to is that they wanted to roll
Speaker 1: back abortion because they wanted more white babies. You see,
Speaker 1: if women are out here, you know, being heads of
Speaker 1: households and having their own financial stability and their ability
Speaker 1: to forecast their own futures, well then they're not relying
Speaker 1: on men, and then they're going to decide to wait
Speaker 1: to have children because we haven't created the conditions in
Speaker 1: this country that make it easy for people to want
Speaker 1: to actually have families who want them. It's not as
Speaker 1: if we provide universal PreK or universal kindergarten. It's not
Speaker 1: as if we provide regular childcare tax credits. Right, It's
Speaker 1: not as if we allow for parents to have maternity
Speaker 1: and paternity leave that lasts more than a couple of months,
Speaker 1: and then the rest of the time you're cobbling together
Speaker 1: your disability in order to stay home with your new
Speaker 1: fucking baby. For all of these talks about being pro
Speaker 1: life and pro child, they don't give a fuck because
Speaker 1: just look at our public education system. But I digress.
Speaker 1: The fact is that this has been a long sought
Speaker 1: after plan. We'll start with abortion and then we'll go
Speaker 1: back to voting rights, because remember they tried. They fucked
Speaker 1: with voting rights in the beginning of the two thousands
Speaker 1: again when they said, oh, these historically and notoriously racist
Speaker 1: Southern states, Oh, they don't need to have preclarance anymore.
Speaker 1: They can go ahead and change their voting rights. Oh
Speaker 1: we're past racism. And what did those motherfuckers do before
Speaker 1: the ink was even dried on the opinion. They went
Speaker 1: ahead and started jerryman during districts and started a pressing
Speaker 1: votes and started throwing out registrants. So here comes to
Speaker 1: Supreme Court once again for the final death blow to
Speaker 1: the Voting Rights Act. So you get rid of affirmative action,
Speaker 1: you've gotten rid of abortion, you overturned same sex marriage,
Speaker 1: and you finally got voting rights. Really, there's nothing left
Speaker 1: standing except to initiate a new Jim Crow. Right. You
Speaker 1: make it so that black and brown people are forced
Speaker 1: into one cast system, so that you create a permanent underclass.
Speaker 1: You give them no legal recourse to have even their
Speaker 1: basic needs met, meaning that you know, if they're working
Speaker 1: in factories, say like Amazon, you know that they can
Speaker 1: pee in an actual functioning toilet and breathe in air
Speaker 1: that is actually fresh, and have medical insurance right and
Speaker 1: have unions. But no Republicans will make sure that you
Speaker 1: have none of that, and that you are in such
Speaker 1: a desperate place in your life that you'll just take
Speaker 1: what is given to you. This is how authoritarianism and
Speaker 1: fascism works. And then when the people are so desperate,
Speaker 1: when they have no choice, no options, what do you
Speaker 1: think happens next, I'll tell you violence. This country is
Speaker 1: going the way of Iran, way faster than it took
Speaker 1: Iran to eradicate women's rights over forty years. We are
Speaker 1: moving in the absolute wrong direction. And the question that
Speaker 1: I will ask again is the one that I ask
Speaker 1: at the top, is that when the people who are
Speaker 1: making the laws or they themselves corrupt, is it our
Speaker 1: responsibility as citizens to continue to follow those laws or
Speaker 1: is it a requirement of us to wake the fuck
Speaker 1: up and realize that something got to give and it
Speaker 1: ain't going to be my back. These are the questions
Speaker 1: that we need to start asking ourselves and each other,
Speaker 1: Our friends and our family are colleagues, because time, dear friends,
Speaker 1: is actually running the fuck out. And I'm not just
Speaker 1: talking about midterms. I'm talking about the sun setting on
Speaker 1: America's democracy. Because when we take into consideration what happened
Speaker 1: in Italy with Georgia Malone, When we take into consideration
Speaker 1: what just happened in Brazil with Bulsonado, When we take
Speaker 1: into consideration what has already happened in Hungary with Orbon
Speaker 1: and all of these other nations. What's going on in Sweden,
Speaker 1: What is happening in the United States, what almost happened
Speaker 1: in France but didn't. But Lepine, they're far right candidate,
Speaker 1: She continues to raise her popularity. There is a reordering
Speaker 1: of the world right now, and it is behind dictators
Speaker 1: and authoritarianism, and without a strong democracy, without a strong
Speaker 1: United States, how do you think that this goes? Once
Speaker 1: they subdue the masses, then there will be a major
Speaker 1: paragrab that will end up in, yes, a world war.
Speaker 1: I am not chicken little, and I do not claim
Speaker 1: to be a soothsayer, but I'm pretty sure I can
Speaker 1: read the signs, and I'm pretty sure I'm a good
Speaker 1: student of history. When I say we are running out
Speaker 1: of time, this is exactly exactly what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: For far too long, the people of this country have
Speaker 1: been asleep. Some have been purposefully ignorant, meaning, oh, I
Speaker 1: don't like politics, I don't talk politics. Oh I hate you,
Speaker 1: I don't even vote. You know those people, right, any
Speaker 1: of other people that say I'm too busy, I got
Speaker 1: too much going on, then you got those people. Many
Speaker 1: of the few that are activated, well, it is up
Speaker 1: to us, the few who are activated and engage on
Speaker 1: a regular basis, to do our best not to bereade,
Speaker 1: but to connect the dots for people who do not
Speaker 1: see themselves in the crises that are unfolding. So, whether
Speaker 1: it is family that you may have in Florida that
Speaker 1: is not connecting the dots with the fact that what
Speaker 1: has happened with Hurricane Ian isn't a quote unquote natural disaster,
Speaker 1: but one that packed a greater punch because of climate change.
Speaker 1: But you keep voting from motherfuckers that aren't don't even
Speaker 1: vote for you to get the funding that you need
Speaker 1: to rebuild. Come on, come on, help them connect the dots. Right, Oh,
Speaker 1: you got hurricane insurance, but guess what you didn't get
Speaker 1: flood insurance. And guess what is the cause of most
Speaker 1: of the damage that has taken place in Florida. Flooding
Speaker 1: intense rain. So when these people turn around, and I'm
Speaker 1: not talking about the fucking millionaires that got their second, third,
Speaker 1: or fourth homes in Coral Gables, I'm talking about the
Speaker 1: everyday American or the poorer American that was living in
Speaker 1: an RV or a motor home and that's all they got.
Speaker 1: They ain't getting the money to turn around and rebuild
Speaker 1: because insurre it's going to turn around and say, oh no,
Speaker 1: that wasn't hurricane. It wasn't the winds that caused that.
Speaker 1: It was the water. You don't have flood insurance. We
Speaker 1: got to wake people up. Yelling at people does not
Speaker 1: always activate them. But I'm telling you that finding ways
Speaker 1: to connect with people on a very human level and
Speaker 1: just bring to them, bring to them the tapestry, the
Speaker 1: narrative that is going on right now. That is why
Speaker 1: I am bringing you and so happy that I had
Speaker 1: our friend A nat Schenker A Saudio on woke F
Speaker 1: Part one you heard yesterday Part two you were going
Speaker 1: to hear right now on the importance of messaging, on
Speaker 1: the importance of understanding the psychology behind the people that
Speaker 1: you are speaking too. There are some that are activated
Speaker 1: by rage. I am that some. There are others that
Speaker 1: need different tactics in order to activate them. So coming
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Speaker 1: to understand this as a choice election and not a
Speaker 1: referendum on the incumbent party. How are we doing though,
Speaker 1: and by we I mean the democratic establishment in terms
Speaker 1: of making that distinction, Because again I've said this to
Speaker 1: you before. When you paint it, it's as clear as day.
Speaker 1: When I listened to other Democrats, particularly talking heads on
Speaker 1: cable news. It's as clear as mud. Right, they can't
Speaker 1: articulate like and this is what I have often said.
Speaker 1: They the radical right co opted the word freedom right,
Speaker 1: and and their idea of freedom is wrapped in their
Speaker 1: ability to abuse and oppress. And we've allowed them to
Speaker 1: continue with that narrative. I mean, they storm the Capitol
Speaker 1: Building on January six under the guys a freedom, Danielle.
Speaker 1: They've taken freedom, the word, the concept, the notion. They've
Speaker 1: taken family remember family values. Yes, they've taken life from us.
Speaker 1: And all along Democrats, I'm just gonna get very candid,
Speaker 1: have heated exceptionally stupid advice that fails every time. Under Clinton,
Speaker 1: it was called quote triangulation. When Trump came to ascend,
Speaker 1: and see Mark Lilla wrote the op ed that became,
Speaker 1: you know, the think piece that is now a genre
Speaker 1: which is white man finger wagging at people that how
Speaker 1: dare you mentioned race because that is the reason why
Speaker 1: we're gonna lose, which is just such utter nonsense, And honestly,
Speaker 1: how dare you to what is now this notion that
Speaker 1: the only way to win is to talk about popular things? Well,
Speaker 1: let me tell you about popular things. What's happening right
Speaker 1: now in all testing, and it is, it is permeating,
Speaker 1: it is penetrating both this freedom idea. And I can
Speaker 1: hold up examples Gavin Knewsom trolling to Santis with the
Speaker 1: freedom ads released on fourth of July. Absolutely all very intentional.
Speaker 1: Pat Ryan winning his special election in New York. Freedom's,
Speaker 1: freedom's freedoms, freedom's freedoms, freedoms. The Kansas referendum intentionally called
Speaker 1: the ballot initiative constitutional freedom. So they are I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe this is just me needing to believe that, like
Speaker 1: my work is not in vain, and yeah, I got
Speaker 1: to believe somebody like, Okay, so this is my own
Speaker 1: magical realism because otherwise, you know, I just can't function.
Speaker 1: They are doing it. They are doing a better job
Speaker 1: of drawing the contrast. They are doing a better job.
Speaker 1: I mean the Joe Biden speech that you mentioned earlier
Speaker 1: was part of that, and that was all very very intentional.
Speaker 1: And let me tell you what else. The airing of
Speaker 1: the January sixth Committee. I just really want to be clear.
Speaker 1: March April, when we looked at pulling January six voters
Speaker 1: were like, I don't care about that. I care about money,
Speaker 1: I care about economics, I care about jobs, Like, why
Speaker 1: are you talking about that? You're wasting time. And there
Speaker 1: were folks in the Democratic establishment who understandably were like,
Speaker 1: we shouldn't do this, We shouldn't have hearings, we shouldn't
Speaker 1: you know this. Voters will feel like we're wasting time,
Speaker 1: we're you know, not focused on the right things, etcetera, etcetera.
Speaker 1: But if you actually understand persuasion, you know that the
Speaker 1: job of a good message isn't to say what's popular.
Speaker 1: The job of a good message is to make popular
Speaker 1: what we need said. And because we knew that we
Speaker 1: would lose, we will lose this election. If it is
Speaker 1: a referendum on the incumbent party, we will lose it.
Speaker 1: The only way to win it is to make clear
Speaker 1: is to reactivate the energy, the fuck you energy that
Speaker 1: we had in eighteen twenty, to use the technical terminology.
Speaker 1: And so what that means is that we need to
Speaker 1: retap that vein. And the purpose of having these hearings,
Speaker 1: besides the fact that some things are just wrong and
Speaker 1: some things are just right, and certain things you do
Speaker 1: because they are the correct thing to do. If you're
Speaker 1: a leader, you need to go first. That is literally
Speaker 1: what leadership means. And so it is the right thing
Speaker 1: to do to hold these hearings. And in addition to that,
Speaker 1: what we see is that this being continuously in the
Speaker 1: media and the DABS decision, really, the DABS decision have
Speaker 1: changed people's mental calculus. It's not a good idea to
Speaker 1: reason off of anecdote evidence. But let me just share
Speaker 1: with you some examples of focus group green Bay swing
Speaker 1: voters white, like not even green Bay proper, but like
Speaker 1: outside twenty minutes of carping, I hate Democrats. Uh, my
Speaker 1: gas tank prices, the Democrats taxes bla bla blah blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah. And then this man, white man,
Speaker 1: burly guy looks like the Boxer refrigerator comes in, sort
Speaker 1: of your classic like with Northern Wisconsin, with person says,
Speaker 1: you know, my wife and I we had a he
Speaker 1: called it a pregnancy incident. He didn't explain more, but
Speaker 1: clearly he was very upset, and he said, and I
Speaker 1: will be damned if there's going to be a politician
Speaker 1: that's going to come into my bedroom where I am
Speaker 1: consoling my wife and tell us what we can and
Speaker 1: cannot do. You know what, I prices go up and
Speaker 1: prices go down, but if they take our freedoms, that's forever.
Speaker 1: Woman in Texas, same thing Democrats blah blah blah, she says.
Speaker 1: After the prices, the money, the inflation. She says. You know,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I can learn to
Speaker 1: live in a budget. What I cannot learn to do
Speaker 1: is not get raped. People come on, are turning, and
Speaker 1: I realize I've said so many things, but this is
Speaker 1: what is so frustrating. Reproductive rights, health and justice advocates
Speaker 1: have been saying for a million years, talk about abortion,
Speaker 1: talk about women's rights, talk about our freedom, talk about
Speaker 1: talk about these issues, and Democrats have been scared to
Speaker 1: even utter the A word right in twenty eighteen. There
Speaker 1: was barely any ads about abortion in twenty twenty, despite
Speaker 1: the fact that the year before twenty nineteen, twenty five
Speaker 1: states passed abortion bands. Still twenty twenty, you know, like,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna talk about abortion. That's not where we're
Speaker 1: going to go. Suddenly everyone has their head out of
Speaker 1: their asset and are like, oh, it's Rovember. Obviously, abortion
Speaker 1: ads are testing off the charts, and so had we
Speaker 1: been actually fighting all along. If you want people to
Speaker 1: come to your cause, you have to be attractive, and
Speaker 1: that means that you actually have to stand for something,
Speaker 1: and it also means you're going to repel some people.
Speaker 1: So I think we are getting it. I am cautiously
Speaker 1: optimistic that optimism doesn't come from sort of a fake
Speaker 1: place of hope. It comes from determination, like I've been, yeah,
Speaker 1: like we have no choice, we have to do this
Speaker 1: last question for you are not because I mean honestly,
Speaker 1: I genuinely could speak to you all day because I
Speaker 1: think that what is really important and I said, I
Speaker 1: said this a couple of shows ago is really understanding
Speaker 1: this psychology behind the decisions that people make. And that's
Speaker 1: what you do with the focus group and listening to
Speaker 1: people is understanding what motivates them, what drives them. Like
Speaker 1: you said, you know, I think about my own you know,
Speaker 1: life and work through politics, and you know, I remember
Speaker 1: being I think I was like eight or nine and
Speaker 1: I asked my parents what political affiliation we were, and
Speaker 1: you know, and at the time it was just like, well, Danielle,
Speaker 1: what do you think? And I said d because Danielle
Speaker 1: and I think we're democrats, right, Like I'm I was
Speaker 1: like eight, so that seemed logical. But then you know,
Speaker 1: my parents explained to me, you know why we were democrats, right,
Speaker 1: your child of immigrants. We came to this country to
Speaker 1: make a better life, and they explain the process. And
Speaker 1: so for me, why am I a Democrat? Because of that,
Speaker 1: those foundations that my family had instilled, but then also
Speaker 1: how it was tested, you know, over time, Like you said,
Speaker 1: people they are defined by their families. It doesn't mean
Speaker 1: that they can't change, but they're defined by it. So
Speaker 1: if we're not understanding the psychology of what moves people,
Speaker 1: and I would you know, frankly, I would have written
Speaker 1: off the guy from Wisconsin like you said, you know,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. I guess this then the other thing
Speaker 1: until he said I'll be damned, right, I would have
Speaker 1: assumed that those were his people, that the anti abortion,
Speaker 1: you know, pro life, that those were his people, because
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, what was interesting is that gay
Speaker 1: people said I'll be damned if you tell me what
Speaker 1: the fuck I can do inside of my own bedroom.
Speaker 1: You know, that was the Lawrence case out of Texas, right,
Speaker 1: So you know the question for you is how do
Speaker 1: we continue to really try And I don't mean understand
Speaker 1: in the way that I'm trying to understand white supremacis
Speaker 1: and why they became white supremacist, because I don't care,
Speaker 1: But how do we understand you know, white Americans in particular,
Speaker 1: who every political party puts all of their eggs in
Speaker 1: their basket. But like you're saying, this abortion overturning abortion
Speaker 1: in this country has opened up people's eyes to the
Speaker 1: fact that for the first time, the Supreme Court is
Speaker 1: taking away rights as opposed to granting them. So how
Speaker 1: do we use Is it fear? I guess it's a
Speaker 1: question that I'm asking, Like, is fear the motivator the
Speaker 1: losing of rights? It? Is it anger? Is it passion?
Speaker 1: Is it determination? Like you said, like, I'll be damned right?
Speaker 1: Is that our mantra? What is it? Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: great question. So fear is an inhibiting emotion. It is
Speaker 1: not an activating emotion, and that is true among progressive
Speaker 1: and sort of the progressive parts we need to pull
Speaker 1: out of people. So there's a fundamental confusion that a
Speaker 1: lot of people have where they will say to me,
Speaker 1: how why are you saying we can't use XYZ message.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what the right does. We need to remember
Speaker 1: that their task is to rile up and keep engaged.
Speaker 1: And I would argue enraged people who are fundamentally wired
Speaker 1: to be right wing and raised in order to persuade
Speaker 1: the middle towards destructive aims. Our task is to rile
Speaker 1: up and keep engaged and connected people who are fundamentally
Speaker 1: left wing progressive, in order to persuade people towards aims
Speaker 1: that create that connect that bring greater freedom, greater unity,
Speaker 1: greater acceptance that, Hey, the world's complicated and people come
Speaker 1: in all sorts of different forms. And I know that
Speaker 1: you never grew up with someone that was like that,
Speaker 1: or you think that you didn't, and so that scares
Speaker 1: you because the unknown is scary to people. It's scary
Speaker 1: to all of us. There's an evolutionarily beneficial reason why
Speaker 1: why a certain bit of being neophobic is makes sense.
Speaker 1: But the way that we overcome that is by equipping
Speaker 1: our choir that base with fundamentally progressive things to say.
Speaker 1: Fear is very effective. It is a motivator of right
Speaker 1: wing people, but it is not of left wing people.
Speaker 1: Now that's not true of activists, and this is our
Speaker 1: fundamental problem. Left wing activists. People who are like doing
Speaker 1: the text in doing the don't you know twenty seven
Speaker 1: dollars a month. They like talking about politics, being on Twitter, etc.
Speaker 1: We love fear. We are like, please provide me another problem,
Speaker 1: Please show me like darkness and horror. Oh I'm so
Speaker 1: excited to board the Titanic, Like could I get an
Speaker 1: extra ticket for my friend? Like that's our love language,
Speaker 1: like harms and horrors. Thank you ms. Normal people, normal
Speaker 1: progressive people who are not engaged, ie, we need to
Speaker 1: reach them. You know, they got ninety nine problems and
Speaker 1: they don't want yours. It turns out, boy, if I
Speaker 1: got a problem for you, is not that indicing to them,
Speaker 1: because they're all set for problems. So instead, what we
Speaker 1: have to inspire in them is defiance. There's a big
Speaker 1: difference between they're coming for your freedoms and they're going
Speaker 1: to harm you, and they're gonna hurt you and it's
Speaker 1: gonna be horrible and not on my fucking watch, not
Speaker 1: this time. You know, we banded together before in twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: we came together to defeat Trump, and now we're coming
Speaker 1: together to defeat Trump is m No. One election is
Speaker 1: the solution. Yep. Every single election is a crossroads where
Speaker 1: we decide whether we are going to move this country forward,
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