1 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps in Welcome to will Gate f Daily 2 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: with Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording from the Home Bunker, Folks. 3 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: This week, the Supreme Court begins its new session, and 4 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: first I want to acknowledge history. I want to acknowledge 5 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: some good news for a change, which is the fact 6 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: that Justice Katanji Brown Jackson has begun her term as 7 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: a Supreme Court justice, the first black woman to hold 8 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: that esteemed position in the United States. Now for the 9 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: rest of the bad news, which is that, my God, 10 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: do I wish that Katanji Brown Jackson was sitting on 11 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: any other Supreme Court than one that I have no 12 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: no mixed feelings, will go down in history as the 13 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: most corrupt, weaponized, radicalized, far right wing Supreme Court in 14 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: the history of these United States. Now I say that, 15 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: dear friends, I am not a legal scholar. I am 16 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: not a lawyer. And as you have heard me joke before, 17 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: I just watch a lawn order and pretend I know 18 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: a thing or two about a thing or two about 19 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: our legal system, because I surround myself with really smart people. 20 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: But the fact is this, the Supreme Court is taking 21 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: on in this session some of the most fundamentally life 22 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: changing cases that we have seen, same sex marriage and 23 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: the ability of businesses to discriminate against same sex couples, 24 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: affirmative action, and the ability of predominantly why institutions to 25 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: once again turn away people of color and women voting rights. 26 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: Finally doing what it is with the Supreme Court that 27 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,839 Speaker 1: John Eastman wasn't able to do with his PowerPoint presentation 28 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: during the Trump administration and their attempted coup, which is 29 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: turnover national elections and the outcomes of national elections to 30 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: state electors, just totally dismissing the will and the voice 31 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: of Oh, I don't know, hundreds of millions of fucking Americans, 32 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: These nine justices, we're not voted in by the people 33 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: of these United States. And so, finally, with the Dabb's 34 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: decision last June, and with the fact that abortion is 35 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: damned near illegal and criminalized, not even just the legal, 36 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: but criminal in a majority of states in this country, 37 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 1: would have you recognized that, h are we going to 38 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: go about the business of abiding by laws that we 39 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: know are made by corrupt people in order to keep 40 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: the masses in check and under their thumb? Or are 41 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: we going to begin in particularly in blue states that 42 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: actually believe in the Constitution and believe in precedent, and 43 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: believe in the will of people to say fuck the 44 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: Supreme Court. Because here's the thing. When the body that 45 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: is making the laws of this land becomes corrupt and corroded, 46 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: those laws become corrupt and corroded. And so the question 47 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: then that we all have to ask ourselves is that 48 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: we do we just continue to go along for the 49 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: get along and think that, oh, we'll keep getting at 50 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: this democracy apple, bites at this justice apple when they 51 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: are not even are they have laid the groundwork. They 52 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: own the courts, the far right, white wing in Evangelical Christians, 53 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: and I use white wing. I meant that it was 54 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: not a mistake own the courts. They're about to own 55 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: the House of Representatives, and in less than two years 56 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: may in fact own the White House. So all that 57 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: being said, you don't really need to have a law 58 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: degree to figure out that Jim Crow and you know, 59 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: repealing a woman's right to vote and making it so 60 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 1: that you have no legal recourse if your boss decides 61 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: to fire you because they don't like your hair, they 62 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: don't like your skin color, and they don't like who 63 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: you're married to. Where you going with that case nowhere? 64 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: Because if it's kicked up to the Supreme Court, there 65 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: is no longer any precedent that says that you have 66 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: any rights in this country if you are a person 67 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: of color, a woman, a queer person. Right, you know, 68 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: the majority of Americans. You see what has happened, folks, 69 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: is that when we started talking in progressive circles. And 70 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: I know this because I was working at the Center 71 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: for American Progress as a senior advisor, and I was 72 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:34,799 Speaker 1: also working for an environmental organization at the same time. 73 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: When we started to talk about the demographic shift was 74 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: in the early two thousands, and we started to talk 75 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: about the fact that this country is getting browner, not 76 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: necessarily blacker, but browner in terms of the Latin X 77 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: population growing bigger and bigger. It is the fastest growing 78 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: that And then Asian when far right wing racist began 79 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: to hear that, what they actually heard was my privilege 80 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: is going to go away. My ability to oppress, my 81 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: ability to just show up and be white and male 82 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: and straight is no longer going to have the same 83 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: currency that it did if these people, if those people 84 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: become the authority, because you see, white people always believe 85 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: that when people of color get into positions of power, 86 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: that we have the same sentiment and desire to oppress 87 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: and be cruel and vicious in the way that they are. 88 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: That's because they don't know us, because that's not how 89 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: people of color actually operate, not in this country. What 90 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: we have tried to do, and what we have worked 91 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: to do, and what we have fought in the courts 92 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: to do, is to level a playing field for people 93 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: of color in a way that allowed us to move 94 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: aside the purposeful obstacles that were put in our way 95 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: by virtue of white supremacy and capitalism and patriarchy. So 96 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: when the far right and the radicalized white supremacy groups 97 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: began to see this, they said, well, no, we got 98 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: to roll back abortion, which they've been saying. But what 99 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: we weren't listening to is that they wanted to roll 100 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: back abortion because they wanted more white babies. You see, 101 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: if women are out here, you know, being heads of 102 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: households and having their own financial stability and their ability 103 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: to forecast their own futures, well then they're not relying 104 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: on men, and then they're going to decide to wait 105 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: to have children because we haven't created the conditions in 106 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: this country that make it easy for people to want 107 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: to actually have families who want them. It's not as 108 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: if we provide universal PreK or universal kindergarten. It's not 109 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: as if we provide regular childcare tax credits. Right, It's 110 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: not as if we allow for parents to have maternity 111 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: and paternity leave that lasts more than a couple of months, 112 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: and then the rest of the time you're cobbling together 113 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: your disability in order to stay home with your new 114 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: fucking baby. For all of these talks about being pro 115 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: life and pro child, they don't give a fuck because 116 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: just look at our public education system. But I digress. 117 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: The fact is that this has been a long sought 118 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: after plan. We'll start with abortion and then we'll go 119 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: back to voting rights, because remember they tried. They fucked 120 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: with voting rights in the beginning of the two thousands 121 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: again when they said, oh, these historically and notoriously racist 122 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: Southern states, Oh, they don't need to have preclarance anymore. 123 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: They can go ahead and change their voting rights. Oh 124 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: we're past racism. And what did those motherfuckers do before 125 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: the ink was even dried on the opinion. They went 126 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: ahead and started jerryman during districts and started a pressing 127 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: votes and started throwing out registrants. So here comes to 128 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: Supreme Court once again for the final death blow to 129 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: the Voting Rights Act. So you get rid of affirmative action, 130 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: you've gotten rid of abortion, you overturned same sex marriage, 131 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: and you finally got voting rights. Really, there's nothing left 132 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: standing except to initiate a new Jim Crow. Right. You 133 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: make it so that black and brown people are forced 134 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: into one cast system, so that you create a permanent underclass. 135 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: You give them no legal recourse to have even their 136 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: basic needs met, meaning that you know, if they're working 137 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: in factories, say like Amazon, you know that they can 138 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: pee in an actual functioning toilet and breathe in air 139 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: that is actually fresh, and have medical insurance right and 140 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: have unions. But no Republicans will make sure that you 141 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: have none of that, and that you are in such 142 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: a desperate place in your life that you'll just take 143 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: what is given to you. This is how authoritarianism and 144 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: fascism works. And then when the people are so desperate, 145 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: when they have no choice, no options, what do you 146 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: think happens next, I'll tell you violence. This country is 147 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: going the way of Iran, way faster than it took 148 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: Iran to eradicate women's rights over forty years. We are 149 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: moving in the absolute wrong direction. And the question that 150 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: I will ask again is the one that I ask 151 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: at the top, is that when the people who are 152 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: making the laws or they themselves corrupt, is it our 153 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: responsibility as citizens to continue to follow those laws or 154 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: is it a requirement of us to wake the fuck 155 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: up and realize that something got to give and it 156 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: ain't going to be my back. These are the questions 157 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: that we need to start asking ourselves and each other, 158 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: Our friends and our family are colleagues, because time, dear friends, 159 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: is actually running the fuck out. And I'm not just 160 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: talking about midterms. I'm talking about the sun setting on 161 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: America's democracy. Because when we take into consideration what happened 162 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: in Italy with Georgia Malone, When we take into consideration 163 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 1: what just happened in Brazil with Bulsonado, When we take 164 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: into consideration what has already happened in Hungary with Orbon 165 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: and all of these other nations. What's going on in Sweden, 166 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: What is happening in the United States, what almost happened 167 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: in France but didn't. But Lepine, they're far right candidate, 168 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: She continues to raise her popularity. There is a reordering 169 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: of the world right now, and it is behind dictators 170 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 1: and authoritarianism, and without a strong democracy, without a strong 171 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: United States, how do you think that this goes? Once 172 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: they subdue the masses, then there will be a major 173 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: paragrab that will end up in, yes, a world war. 174 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: I am not chicken little, and I do not claim 175 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: to be a soothsayer, but I'm pretty sure I can 176 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: read the signs, and I'm pretty sure I'm a good 177 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: student of history. When I say we are running out 178 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: of time, this is exactly exactly what I'm talking about. 179 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: For far too long, the people of this country have 180 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: been asleep. Some have been purposefully ignorant, meaning, oh, I 181 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: don't like politics, I don't talk politics. Oh I hate you, 182 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: I don't even vote. You know those people, right, any 183 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: of other people that say I'm too busy, I got 184 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: too much going on, then you got those people. Many 185 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: of the few that are activated, well, it is up 186 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: to us, the few who are activated and engage on 187 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: a regular basis, to do our best not to bereade, 188 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: but to connect the dots for people who do not 189 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: see themselves in the crises that are unfolding. So, whether 190 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: it is family that you may have in Florida that 191 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: is not connecting the dots with the fact that what 192 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: has happened with Hurricane Ian isn't a quote unquote natural disaster, 193 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: but one that packed a greater punch because of climate change. 194 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: But you keep voting from motherfuckers that aren't don't even 195 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: vote for you to get the funding that you need 196 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: to rebuild. Come on, come on, help them connect the dots. Right, Oh, 197 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: you got hurricane insurance, but guess what you didn't get 198 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: flood insurance. And guess what is the cause of most 199 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: of the damage that has taken place in Florida. Flooding 200 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: intense rain. So when these people turn around, and I'm 201 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: not talking about the fucking millionaires that got their second, third, 202 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: or fourth homes in Coral Gables, I'm talking about the 203 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: everyday American or the poorer American that was living in 204 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: an RV or a motor home and that's all they got. 205 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: They ain't getting the money to turn around and rebuild 206 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: because insurre it's going to turn around and say, oh no, 207 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: that wasn't hurricane. It wasn't the winds that caused that. 208 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: It was the water. You don't have flood insurance. We 209 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: got to wake people up. Yelling at people does not 210 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: always activate them. But I'm telling you that finding ways 211 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: to connect with people on a very human level and 212 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: just bring to them, bring to them the tapestry, the 213 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: narrative that is going on right now. That is why 214 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: I am bringing you and so happy that I had 215 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: our friend A nat Schenker A Saudio on woke F 216 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: Part one you heard yesterday Part two you were going 217 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: to hear right now on the importance of messaging, on 218 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: the importance of understanding the psychology behind the people that 219 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: you are speaking too. There are some that are activated 220 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: by rage. I am that some. There are others that 221 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: need different tactics in order to activate them. So coming 222 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: up next part two of my conversation with A. Nat 223 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: Schenker a Saudio. 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They need 242 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: to understand this as a choice election and not a 243 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: referendum on the incumbent party. How are we doing though, 244 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: and by we I mean the democratic establishment in terms 245 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: of making that distinction, Because again I've said this to 246 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: you before. When you paint it, it's as clear as day. 247 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: When I listened to other Democrats, particularly talking heads on 248 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: cable news. It's as clear as mud. Right, they can't 249 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: articulate like and this is what I have often said. 250 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: They the radical right co opted the word freedom right, 251 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: and and their idea of freedom is wrapped in their 252 00:17:55,560 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: ability to abuse and oppress. And we've allowed them to 253 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: continue with that narrative. I mean, they storm the Capitol 254 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: Building on January six under the guys a freedom, Danielle. 255 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: They've taken freedom, the word, the concept, the notion. They've 256 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: taken family remember family values. Yes, they've taken life from us. 257 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: And all along Democrats, I'm just gonna get very candid, 258 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: have heated exceptionally stupid advice that fails every time. Under Clinton, 259 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: it was called quote triangulation. When Trump came to ascend, 260 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: and see Mark Lilla wrote the op ed that became, 261 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: you know, the think piece that is now a genre 262 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: which is white man finger wagging at people that how 263 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: dare you mentioned race because that is the reason why 264 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna lose, which is just such utter nonsense, And honestly, 265 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: how dare you to what is now this notion that 266 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: the only way to win is to talk about popular things? Well, 267 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: let me tell you about popular things. What's happening right 268 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: now in all testing, and it is, it is permeating, 269 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: it is penetrating both this freedom idea. And I can 270 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: hold up examples Gavin Knewsom trolling to Santis with the 271 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: freedom ads released on fourth of July. Absolutely all very intentional. 272 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: Pat Ryan winning his special election in New York. Freedom's, 273 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: freedom's freedoms, freedom's freedoms, freedoms. The Kansas referendum intentionally called 274 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: the ballot initiative constitutional freedom. So they are I mean, 275 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: maybe this is just me needing to believe that, like 276 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: my work is not in vain, and yeah, I got 277 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 1: to believe somebody like, Okay, so this is my own 278 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 1: magical realism because otherwise, you know, I just can't function. 279 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: They are doing it. They are doing a better job 280 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: of drawing the contrast. They are doing a better job. 281 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: I mean the Joe Biden speech that you mentioned earlier 282 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: was part of that, and that was all very very intentional. 283 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 1: And let me tell you what else. The airing of 284 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: the January sixth Committee. I just really want to be clear. 285 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: March April, when we looked at pulling January six voters 286 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: were like, I don't care about that. I care about money, 287 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 1: I care about economics, I care about jobs, Like, why 288 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: are you talking about that? You're wasting time. And there 289 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 1: were folks in the Democratic establishment who understandably were like, 290 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: we shouldn't do this, We shouldn't have hearings, we shouldn't 291 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: you know this. Voters will feel like we're wasting time, 292 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: we're you know, not focused on the right things, etcetera, etcetera. 293 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: But if you actually understand persuasion, you know that the 294 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: job of a good message isn't to say what's popular. 295 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: The job of a good message is to make popular 296 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: what we need said. And because we knew that we 297 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,239 Speaker 1: would lose, we will lose this election. If it is 298 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: a referendum on the incumbent party, we will lose it. 299 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 1: The only way to win it is to make clear 300 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: is to reactivate the energy, the fuck you energy that 301 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: we had in eighteen twenty, to use the technical terminology. 302 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,239 Speaker 1: And so what that means is that we need to 303 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: retap that vein. And the purpose of having these hearings, 304 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: besides the fact that some things are just wrong and 305 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: some things are just right, and certain things you do 306 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: because they are the correct thing to do. If you're 307 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: a leader, you need to go first. That is literally 308 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: what leadership means. And so it is the right thing 309 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: to do to hold these hearings. And in addition to that, 310 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: what we see is that this being continuously in the 311 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: media and the DABS decision, really, the DABS decision have 312 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: changed people's mental calculus. It's not a good idea to 313 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: reason off of anecdote evidence. But let me just share 314 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 1: with you some examples of focus group green Bay swing 315 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: voters white, like not even green Bay proper, but like 316 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: outside twenty minutes of carping, I hate Democrats. Uh, my 317 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: gas tank prices, the Democrats taxes bla bla blah blah 318 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah. And then this man, white man, 319 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 1: burly guy looks like the Boxer refrigerator comes in, sort 320 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: of your classic like with Northern Wisconsin, with person says, 321 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: you know, my wife and I we had a he 322 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: called it a pregnancy incident. He didn't explain more, but 323 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: clearly he was very upset, and he said, and I 324 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: will be damned if there's going to be a politician 325 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: that's going to come into my bedroom where I am 326 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: consoling my wife and tell us what we can and 327 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: cannot do. You know what, I prices go up and 328 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: prices go down, but if they take our freedoms, that's forever. 329 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: Woman in Texas, same thing Democrats blah blah blah, she says. 330 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: After the prices, the money, the inflation. She says. You know, 331 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I can learn to 332 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: live in a budget. What I cannot learn to do 333 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: is not get raped. People come on, are turning, and 334 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: I realize I've said so many things, but this is 335 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: what is so frustrating. Reproductive rights, health and justice advocates 336 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: have been saying for a million years, talk about abortion, 337 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 1: talk about women's rights, talk about our freedom, talk about 338 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: talk about these issues, and Democrats have been scared to 339 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: even utter the A word right in twenty eighteen. There 340 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: was barely any ads about abortion in twenty twenty, despite 341 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: the fact that the year before twenty nineteen, twenty five 342 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: states passed abortion bands. Still twenty twenty, you know, like, 343 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: we're not gonna talk about abortion. That's not where we're 344 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: going to go. Suddenly everyone has their head out of 345 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: their asset and are like, oh, it's Rovember. Obviously, abortion 346 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: ads are testing off the charts, and so had we 347 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: been actually fighting all along. If you want people to 348 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,719 Speaker 1: come to your cause, you have to be attractive, and 349 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: that means that you actually have to stand for something, 350 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: and it also means you're going to repel some people. 351 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: So I think we are getting it. I am cautiously 352 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: optimistic that optimism doesn't come from sort of a fake 353 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: place of hope. It comes from determination, like I've been, yeah, 354 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,479 Speaker 1: like we have no choice, we have to do this 355 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: last question for you are not because I mean honestly, 356 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: I genuinely could speak to you all day because I 357 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: think that what is really important and I said, I 358 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: said this a couple of shows ago is really understanding 359 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: this psychology behind the decisions that people make. And that's 360 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: what you do with the focus group and listening to 361 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: people is understanding what motivates them, what drives them. Like 362 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: you said, you know, I think about my own you know, 363 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: life and work through politics, and you know, I remember 364 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: being I think I was like eight or nine and 365 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: I asked my parents what political affiliation we were, and 366 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: you know, and at the time it was just like, well, Danielle, 367 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: what do you think? And I said d because Danielle 368 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 1: and I think we're democrats, right, Like I'm I was 369 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: like eight, so that seemed logical. But then you know, 370 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: my parents explained to me, you know why we were democrats, right, 371 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: your child of immigrants. We came to this country to 372 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,959 Speaker 1: make a better life, and they explain the process. And 373 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 1: so for me, why am I a Democrat? Because of that, 374 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: those foundations that my family had instilled, but then also 375 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: how it was tested, you know, over time, Like you said, 376 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: people they are defined by their families. It doesn't mean 377 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: that they can't change, but they're defined by it. So 378 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: if we're not understanding the psychology of what moves people, 379 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: and I would you know, frankly, I would have written 380 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: off the guy from Wisconsin like you said, you know, 381 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. I guess this then the other thing 382 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 1: until he said I'll be damned, right, I would have 383 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: assumed that those were his people, that the anti abortion, 384 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 1: you know, pro life, that those were his people, because 385 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, what was interesting is that gay 386 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: people said I'll be damned if you tell me what 387 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: the fuck I can do inside of my own bedroom. 388 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: You know, that was the Lawrence case out of Texas, right, 389 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,199 Speaker 1: So you know the question for you is how do 390 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: we continue to really try And I don't mean understand 391 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: in the way that I'm trying to understand white supremacis 392 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: and why they became white supremacist, because I don't care, 393 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 1: But how do we understand you know, white Americans in particular, 394 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: who every political party puts all of their eggs in 395 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: their basket. But like you're saying, this abortion overturning abortion 396 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: in this country has opened up people's eyes to the 397 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: fact that for the first time, the Supreme Court is 398 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: taking away rights as opposed to granting them. So how 399 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: do we use Is it fear? I guess it's a 400 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: question that I'm asking, Like, is fear the motivator the 401 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 1: losing of rights? It? Is it anger? Is it passion? 402 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: Is it determination? Like you said, like, I'll be damned right? 403 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: Is that our mantra? What is it? Yeah, it's a 404 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: great question. So fear is an inhibiting emotion. It is 405 00:27:55,640 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: not an activating emotion, and that is true among progressive 406 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 1: and sort of the progressive parts we need to pull 407 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: out of people. So there's a fundamental confusion that a 408 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: lot of people have where they will say to me, 409 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: how why are you saying we can't use XYZ message. 410 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: That's exactly what the right does. We need to remember 411 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: that their task is to rile up and keep engaged. 412 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: And I would argue enraged people who are fundamentally wired 413 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: to be right wing and raised in order to persuade 414 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: the middle towards destructive aims. Our task is to rile 415 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: up and keep engaged and connected people who are fundamentally 416 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: left wing progressive, in order to persuade people towards aims 417 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: that create that connect that bring greater freedom, greater unity, 418 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: greater acceptance that, Hey, the world's complicated and people come 419 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: in all sorts of different forms. And I know that 420 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: you never grew up with someone that was like that, 421 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: or you think that you didn't, and so that scares 422 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: you because the unknown is scary to people. It's scary 423 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: to all of us. There's an evolutionarily beneficial reason why 424 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: why a certain bit of being neophobic is makes sense. 425 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: But the way that we overcome that is by equipping 426 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: our choir that base with fundamentally progressive things to say. 427 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: Fear is very effective. It is a motivator of right 428 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: wing people, but it is not of left wing people. 429 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: Now that's not true of activists, and this is our 430 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: fundamental problem. Left wing activists. People who are like doing 431 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: the text in doing the don't you know twenty seven 432 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: dollars a month. They like talking about politics, being on Twitter, etc. 433 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: We love fear. We are like, please provide me another problem, 434 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:13,479 Speaker 1: Please show me like darkness and horror. Oh I'm so 435 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: excited to board the Titanic, Like could I get an 436 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: extra ticket for my friend? Like that's our love language, 437 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: like harms and horrors. Thank you ms. Normal people, normal 438 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,719 Speaker 1: progressive people who are not engaged, ie, we need to 439 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: reach them. You know, they got ninety nine problems and 440 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: they don't want yours. It turns out, boy, if I 441 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: got a problem for you, is not that indicing to them, 442 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: because they're all set for problems. So instead, what we 443 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: have to inspire in them is defiance. There's a big 444 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: difference between they're coming for your freedoms and they're going 445 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: to harm you, and they're gonna hurt you and it's 446 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: gonna be horrible and not on my fucking watch, not 447 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: this time. You know, we banded together before in twenty twenty, 448 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: we came together to defeat Trump, and now we're coming 449 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: together to defeat Trump is m No. One election is 450 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: the solution. Yep. Every single election is a crossroads where 451 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: we decide whether we are going to move this country forward, 452 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: because it is we the people that move the country 453 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: forward by making a decision that liberty and justice has 454 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: to apply to all, no exceptions. That's the choice that 455 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: we are going to make together, that all of our 456 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: children should be able to have the freedom to learn 457 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: the truth of their past, that all of our children 458 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: should be free from boxes that tell them what they 459 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: have to look like and who they have to be, 460 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: and what they have to do. And that's the choice 461 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: that we're going to make in every election. And it's 462 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: not going to solve all of our problems. We're not 463 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: going to get everything that we possibly dreamed of, but 464 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: voting is one part, and it is one fundamental part 465 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: of who we are, and the minute that we get 466 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: on voting, we come straight back to fight, to come together, 467 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: to march, to protest, to pressure our lawmakers, because we're 468 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: the ones who make the future a hundred and fifty 469 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: thousand percent. Anatchenko, Osario, thank you so much for your work, 470 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: for your words, for the encouragement, for the reminder of 471 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: why we need to fight and that what we are 472 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: after right now is a defiance to the radical right 473 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: that wants to reshape who we are fundamentally as Americans 474 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: and what America stands for folks. Her podcast is host 475 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: She is the host of Words to Win By. If 476 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: you are not listening, you should Anatchenkosario please come back 477 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: and join us on Woke f again. Appreciate you so 478 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: very much, Thank you. That is it for me today. 479 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: Dear friends on woke f As always, power to the 480 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: people and to all the people. Power, get woke and 481 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: stay woke as fuck.