Speaker 1: Get nasty and touch your body, get nasty and tell
Speaker 1: your friend hands get nasty, but don't tell you mama.
Speaker 1: Rom Burgundy is one Batman Romberguny podcast. Oh yes, Oh
Speaker 1: I wake up to that song every morning and it
Speaker 1: really gives me a jolt. Hello. This is Ron Burgundy
Speaker 1: and welcome once again to the Ron Burgundy Podcast. Carolina.
Speaker 1: How are you doing today? I'm good? Thanks for asking?
Speaker 1: Are you're just good or great? I'm good? Why not great?
Speaker 1: Because I'm great? Guess what I did yesterday? I don't
Speaker 1: know what did you do? I got my back waxed. Now,
Speaker 1: what would you say it to bookled? Waxing would cost
Speaker 1: I mean you should know, right, I don't being a
Speaker 1: lady at all. Okay, well, I guess if you go
Speaker 1: to a decent spot, it will cost you anywhere. I'm
Speaker 1: guessing bingo. I got my waxing done for four dollars,
Speaker 1: my entire back for four measly bucks. Okay, Oh you
Speaker 1: know what that makes sense? Um? Because you're bleeding a
Speaker 1: little bit through the back of your shirt. That means
Speaker 1: it was a good waxing. They got the entire hair follicle.
Speaker 1: If you say I know so, run is how long
Speaker 1: has it been bleeding? It's been bleeding all night long. Okay,
Speaker 1: you shouldn't go cheap on waxing. I had to throw
Speaker 1: my sheets out my bed. Oh my god. Yeah, but listen,
Speaker 1: don't lecture me on my body. It's my body, I know.
Speaker 1: But if you can afford a healthier and safe waxing
Speaker 1: salon for your information, this wasn't a salon. It was
Speaker 1: an auto collision repair shop slash bird breeder. So they're
Speaker 1: now where was I? All right? One of the great
Speaker 1: things about this podcast, which sets it apart from three
Speaker 1: or four other podcasts out there, On this show, it's
Speaker 1: a chance for two American icons to chat one on
Speaker 1: one with each other, candidly American. No hold on, I'm
Speaker 1: not done. To call my next guest in American Icon
Speaker 1: would actually be an understatement. She began her show business
Speaker 1: career when she was only eleven months old as a
Speaker 1: model for Ivory Soap. Can you imagine that eleven months old?
Speaker 1: It's incredible. This blatant disregard for child labor laws catapulted
Speaker 1: her and to start him. At twelve, she starred in
Speaker 1: the breakout film Pretty Baby, directed by Lewis Malley, it's
Speaker 1: actually Louis mal You're mispronouncing it, are you sure? Oh?
Speaker 1: Because look at this that reads If you look there,
Speaker 1: that reads Louis Malley. To me, how would you pronounce this?
Speaker 1: I'm actually I'm pretty sure it's Gluie maw He's an
Speaker 1: acclaimed French filmmaker. Actually is he? Well, did he direct
Speaker 1: any of the Cannonball Run movies? No, but I can
Speaker 1: fact check that. See if Lewis malle directed any Cannonball
Speaker 1: Run movies? Can you do that? Caroline? Okay, I'm in
Speaker 1: the middle of my guest introduction. It's supposed to be
Speaker 1: a big build up to a discussion between two American icons,
Speaker 1: and you've you've really disrupted the flow. So can I
Speaker 1: finish this? Go ahead? Okay. She was the youngest fashion
Speaker 1: model to ever appear on the cover of Voge, a
Speaker 1: regular at famed New York discotheque Studio fifty four, and then,
Speaker 1: for some crazy reason, she decided to leave all that
Speaker 1: fun and excitement of modeling and starring in movies to
Speaker 1: attend Princeton University. Wow, is this a typo? Is this really? Okay?
Speaker 1: This is not a move I would have made. No way. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll have to talk about that anyway. She's an absolute legend,
Speaker 1: you know her from everything from the Blue Lagoon to
Speaker 1: Suddenly Susan. It is my extreme emnor to Welcome to
Speaker 1: the Ron Burgundy Podcast, the iconic Brookshields. But first let's
Speaker 1: take a commercial break and we are back Ron Burgundy Podcast.
Speaker 1: As I mentioned before, what an exciting episode we are
Speaker 1: with an icon Brookshields. Brooke, how are you today? Thanks
Speaker 1: for joining us. Oh, I'm fine. Thank you so much
Speaker 1: for inviting me. Brooke. I'm sorry if you hold on
Speaker 1: for a second, I need to do a live commercial read. Um.
Speaker 1: I know you you just got on the phone, but
Speaker 1: I just have to kind of take care of business here.
Speaker 1: Squatty potty. It's that little stool you put in your
Speaker 1: bathroom to make sure you're using the toilet correctly when
Speaker 1: you're doing a number two. Okay, you know, Caroline, I
Speaker 1: don't want to have to read this ad right now,
Speaker 1: not with brook Shields online. Can we can we just
Speaker 1: do this later? Absolutely could have read it. Leader. That
Speaker 1: was the decision you just made on your own. What's
Speaker 1: done is done? Uh, Brookshields. Let me just ask you
Speaker 1: this about your name, Brooke. Is it short for Brookline, Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: It's actually not, but um my, mom, uh. She liked
Speaker 1: a photograph and the photographer was named Christian Brooks, I think,
Speaker 1: and so she liked the name brook and she So
Speaker 1: you're not let's put this to rest. You're not from Brookline, Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm from where were you born? Born and
Speaker 1: raised in Manhattan? Oh? Okay, well, then who am I thinking?
Speaker 1: Was born in Brookline, Massachusetts. That's an American icon. Oh,
Speaker 1: I you know who I'm thinking of. It's it's Michael Dukakus.
Speaker 1: Never mind. Oh you know I went to school with
Speaker 1: Andrea his daughter. Oh my gosh, were you so nervous
Speaker 1: around Andrew all the time because her father was Michael
Speaker 1: Dukakis an American icon? You know what? She's really really
Speaker 1: bright and so her I'm sure. I'm sure. I As
Speaker 1: a point, I try to not hang out with people
Speaker 1: who are smarter than me because I get sweaty palms
Speaker 1: and it can be intimidating. It's formidable, it's more formidable.
Speaker 1: It's a good word. If you use that word with
Speaker 1: smart people, I think, well, thank you, see Carolina, I
Speaker 1: am Brooke thinks I'm smart. Ron wrote formidable down the
Speaker 1: pad and it's been waiting to use it all day.
Speaker 1: Good it's the word a day. Maybe you should do
Speaker 1: a word every day. I wrote formidable, and then right
Speaker 1: next the word I'm going to use tomorrow is coxyx,
Speaker 1: which is the medical term for your tailbone. That would
Speaker 1: be more appropriate for the potty day. That's true, Brooke.
Speaker 1: You've had such an impressive career and you truly are
Speaker 1: an American. I kond of and it feels like it's
Speaker 1: impossible that we'll have time to cover everything. So forgive
Speaker 1: me if I ask you about some of the things
Speaker 1: you've talked about a zillion times before. Okay, I think
Speaker 1: people will kill me if I am interviewing Brookshields and
Speaker 1: I didn't ask you about the big stuff. So let's
Speaker 1: get right into it, all right. Tell me about your
Speaker 1: two thousand thirteen guest appearance on the ABC sitcom Super
Speaker 1: Fun Night. Uh, well, I'm sure that's the first thing
Speaker 1: people come up to you and they say, Super Fun Night.
Speaker 1: I can't go through a week without being It's become
Speaker 1: a cult, Broke. I want to talk about modeling. Um.
Speaker 1: I think there's a huge misconception that you know modeling
Speaker 1: is easy but I know from experience it's actually very
Speaker 1: hard work. And you started so young. Do you remember
Speaker 1: your first big modeling gig where you really felt like, WHOA,
Speaker 1: I am a model? Um? I remember getting a cover
Speaker 1: try Yes seventeen magazine and that I was so excited
Speaker 1: about it and I didn't get it and it was crushing.
Speaker 1: It was crushing to me. And within the next year
Speaker 1: or so, I then finally got the cover and I
Speaker 1: remember thinking, I'm a I'm the real deal. I've been
Speaker 1: doing catalogs. It was my first sort of major you
Speaker 1: were part of the club, you were you would invited
Speaker 1: to the party. I'll tell you the first time I
Speaker 1: felt like a model of And of course I've been.
Speaker 1: I've been doing some male modeling over the years, but
Speaker 1: the first big one for me had to be in
Speaker 1: nineteen and I did a print campaign for Virginia Slims
Speaker 1: the cigarettes. Yes, and I'm sure you're wondering, excuse me,
Speaker 1: Ron Burgundy. It was in an advertisement for Ladies cigarettes. Yes,
Speaker 1: I was, but you were ahead of your time and
Speaker 1: was ahead of my time. I love the product too.
Speaker 1: They were sexy, definitely as a sexy approach, so it
Speaker 1: seems very appropriate you know what, I really appreciate that
Speaker 1: because I used to walk around and smoke, you know,
Speaker 1: the small, thin, little Virginia slims, and people would give
Speaker 1: me a lot of flak. But I don't necessarily need
Speaker 1: or needed back then a full cigarette. And clearly comfortable
Speaker 1: in your masculinity. Well that's that's exactly right, and thank
Speaker 1: you for for recognizing that. And I also, I mean,
Speaker 1: I felt a responsibility to do it as a journalist.
Speaker 1: So I ask you, Brooke, are you comfortable with your femininity? Femininity?
Speaker 1: How do you say it? You got femininity? I have
Speaker 1: become much more so since since having children. Actually, prior
Speaker 1: to kids, I think just anything. Femininity was also synonymous
Speaker 1: with um beauty to me, and for a long time
Speaker 1: I sort of didn't want to pay attention to the physical,
Speaker 1: to anything external, anything sort of and part of being
Speaker 1: feminine was an external sort of expression of all that.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't until I mean really until I got
Speaker 1: pregnant and I started feeling that sense of female I
Speaker 1: don't know, power, and then the femininity sort of grew
Speaker 1: out of that because I used to think, oh, I
Speaker 1: had to be the strong, tough one, so I was
Speaker 1: always you know, the femininity was always also synonymous with
Speaker 1: frail and petite and dainty and waif like. And I've
Speaker 1: never been those things, wearing white lace gloves and carrying
Speaker 1: a parasol out in the summertime. Absolutely, And so that
Speaker 1: was it took me a while to sort of appreciate
Speaker 1: how badass femininity can be. You're not going to get
Speaker 1: an argument from me. I mean, you know, some say
Speaker 1: that I exude toxic amounts of masculinity, but I also
Speaker 1: have a feminine side, and I think every man does
Speaker 1: and they shouldn't be afraid to embrace it. Do you agree?
Speaker 1: I totally agree. In fact, I think it just highlights
Speaker 1: the masculinity in the right way. I think when they
Speaker 1: work in conjunction with each other, I think that's the sexiest. Wow.
Speaker 1: I've started wearing lipstick once a week just to try
Speaker 1: it out. You carry yourself then, totally totally do you
Speaker 1: stand a little taller? Um doing a seat on the
Speaker 1: city bus? Sorry? Go ahead, it chose a different side
Speaker 1: to people. Sorry interrupted you? Um, no, no, I try
Speaker 1: not to do that again, please, I won't. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: doing a show called a pilot. We're doing a pilot
Speaker 1: called glamorous, and it's all about the makeup world, and
Speaker 1: it's all about what we were talking about, this sort
Speaker 1: of masculine feminine and this celebration and kind of embracing it,
Speaker 1: and it's so refreshing. So this is full circle. This
Speaker 1: is full circle here. Yep, we have to we have
Speaker 1: to talk about your classic Calvin Klein Jenes commercials. I mean,
Speaker 1: they are, let's face it, they are part of American
Speaker 1: pop cultural history. And I mean, how how many years
Speaker 1: later and we're still talking about them specifically because I'm
Speaker 1: bringing them up. And but you said, and I quote
Speaker 1: unless you want to say it. Um, you said, you
Speaker 1: want to know what comes between me and my Calvin's.
Speaker 1: And then you took a pause and said nothing. And
Speaker 1: my question is what did you mean by that? Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, you are one of the first people
Speaker 1: to properly quote it. What do people usually says? They
Speaker 1: have always said, nothing comes between me and my Calvin's. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm sure I was probably really naive at that age anyway,
Speaker 1: But the idea of the whole series of commercials was
Speaker 1: that each sentence, each saying, had a double meaning to it.
Speaker 1: So there was this hoop lab about it. And they
Speaker 1: pulled the commercial because they said it meant I wasn't
Speaker 1: wearing any underwear or they started playing with the spelling
Speaker 1: get out of the gutter. Yeah, so it was. I
Speaker 1: thought it was pathetic. And yet the controversy surrounding it
Speaker 1: and the novelty of their approach and advertising is why
Speaker 1: when the new UM creative director, Raf Simmons, who's now left,
Speaker 1: but when he came on, he brought back the image
Speaker 1: that was used in the in those ads because it
Speaker 1: became like this pop pop icon e Like you said,
Speaker 1: the iconography of it was brought sort of into the
Speaker 1: hip hop world. Yeah, I have a I have a
Speaker 1: T shirt with your image on it. It's kind of cool.
Speaker 1: I mean I had to buy mine. I had to buy.
Speaker 1: I had to It wasn't cheap. I was like, can't
Speaker 1: you guys give you went? Wow, you had to buy
Speaker 1: your own T shirt of yourself? Mm hmm. How much
Speaker 1: was it one twenty or something like that? Definitely that's
Speaker 1: a rip, right, you know that nothing's free. Well, you
Speaker 1: just can't ever wear it or wash it. I know.
Speaker 1: I'm afraid. What did anyone ever try to steal your
Speaker 1: Calvin Klein jeans? No? Um, but I've just found the
Speaker 1: original pears. I had three of them. My mom kept everything,
Speaker 1: and I recently was going through a warehouse of stuff, literally,
Speaker 1: and she had this whole Calvin. I've kept every single
Speaker 1: mustache comb I've ever owned, just in case or some
Speaker 1: of them really pretty like that might be really pretty.
Speaker 1: Some of them are bejeweled, some of them are Sadly,
Speaker 1: I have to admit some. A lot of them are
Speaker 1: made of ivory. I've contributed to the ivory ivory trade.
Speaker 1: That's not Maybe it wasn't endangered. Then maybe it wasn't.
Speaker 1: Let's just say that. And let's just say I didn't
Speaker 1: go hunt elephants too so that I could get the
Speaker 1: tusks to make my own mustache comb. No, let's say
Speaker 1: that didn't happen, because it didn't say it didn't. And
Speaker 1: if I was in a court of law, let's get
Speaker 1: off this topic. Um. You know one time I had
Speaker 1: a pair of jeans stolen from me and they weren't Calvin's.
Speaker 1: They were Lee Jeans, also a good brand. Levi's lead
Speaker 1: the Wrangler. Those are the originals. Yeah, I had an
Speaker 1: incident with a rottweiler tried to steal jeans from me.
Speaker 1: Were they on you? They were on my person? Yes?
Speaker 1: Where was this? This was at the Pasadenas Rose Bowl
Speaker 1: swap meat in the Rottweiler section. Ah did he he?
Speaker 1: Or she? Doesn't matter? Yeah, I don't know. It was
Speaker 1: a he. There was a big old set of balls
Speaker 1: on that one. He was super charged with testosterone sensing
Speaker 1: masculine yep. And we had a show down. I you
Speaker 1: know what, I started the fight. This is so much
Speaker 1: about the toxic masculine anywhere. Just so I went to
Speaker 1: the rott Wilder section of the Rose Bowl swap meat,
Speaker 1: and I just said, who wants a piece of me?
Speaker 1: I just was feeling a bit randy that day. Rott
Speaker 1: Wilder is an explosive, vicious animal. Beautiful, Yes, And you know,
Speaker 1: while the rottwater was pinning me down and ripping my
Speaker 1: lee jeans to shreds, I remember thinking I stopped screaming
Speaker 1: and remember thinking this is a gorgeous animal, the power
Speaker 1: of the beauty, the majesty, and all went slow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it all went slow. It's that fight or flight and
Speaker 1: exactly everything slowed down. Brook. Let me ask you this,
Speaker 1: Let me let me I'm gonna radically change subjects here
Speaker 1: or maybe not so because you probably wore your your
Speaker 1: Calvin clients to this place. Do you have any great
Speaker 1: memories of Studio fifty four. I have the best memories
Speaker 1: from Studio fifty Um. I first went there with Steve
Speaker 1: Ruebel and Calvin Klein. Actually that guy didn't like me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you never let me in. No, was he manning the door? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was manning the door. He said, Ron Burgundy, I
Speaker 1: don't like you. I will never let you in my nightclub.
Speaker 1: Oh he's probably just jealous. Obviously that never happened to you. No,
Speaker 1: And I never got subjected to the picking process. And
Speaker 1: I also always went really early. My mom would let
Speaker 1: me go, but we would have to I'd have to
Speaker 1: go home because I had school the next It wasn't
Speaker 1: like an early bird special. Yeah, but I really all
Speaker 1: I wanted to do was dance. Would you get there? What? PM? No,
Speaker 1: they didn't open the doors until later, so it was
Speaker 1: like eight. Like if there was an event, I could
Speaker 1: get there right on time and then dance a few hours.
Speaker 1: I would just go directly to the dance floor and
Speaker 1: and then I'd gone home. I mean I And the
Speaker 1: interesting thing was I was never offered any drugs. I was.
Speaker 1: It was almost as if they were all on protection
Speaker 1: duty or something from me, Like I was like the mascot.
Speaker 1: I was sort of offs for you. They were. I
Speaker 1: mean it was it was the late seventies, early eighties,
Speaker 1: and it was crazy, but I felt I was protected.
Speaker 1: And you know, it's interesting. There's a room that they
Speaker 1: call the it's on the fourth floor, and yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it was. It was some druggy room or some
Speaker 1: layer of some kind. And I never obviously never went
Speaker 1: past the dance floor. And then when I did Cabaret
Speaker 1: on Broadway, we did it at Studio fifty four, and
Speaker 1: my dressing room was that actual room on the floor
Speaker 1: in that room, and it was haunted. Haunted, No, no,
Speaker 1: And it wasn't haunted, but it was. It actually had
Speaker 1: a good energy to it. You hung out, run, you
Speaker 1: had a club in New York though that you frequented. Well,
Speaker 1: I would go to the you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: I couldn't get into Studio fifty four, so I went
Speaker 1: to a place called Studio fifty two and it was
Speaker 1: a couple of blocks down, and you know, it wasn't
Speaker 1: the same crowd. I mean, I hung out with like
Speaker 1: Ed Cotch and a couple of the couple of guys
Speaker 1: from shan on a. You know it was all right, Um,
Speaker 1: you didn't have to get there early because it was
Speaker 1: never full. He liked dancing. Ed Ed could really cut
Speaker 1: a rug. He loved it. But I gotta be honest,
Speaker 1: My pride was hurt that I never got in. And
Speaker 1: this happened to me right in front of Grace Jones
Speaker 1: and she laughed at me. But and I've never told
Speaker 1: this story. But I got back at the studio fifty
Speaker 1: four people. I called some buddies in the I R S.
Speaker 1: And I just made up a bunch of wild stories
Speaker 1: and I told them, you know what, go They've got
Speaker 1: cash hidden in the ceiling and a safe, you know,
Speaker 1: filled with like three hundred ludes in it. And I just,
Speaker 1: you know, I made up a bunch of crazy lives
Speaker 1: and a reason for the demise. Well, and then it
Speaker 1: turned out to actually be true. So how did you
Speaker 1: even know? I don't know. I don't It was just
Speaker 1: a wild swing and I happened to be I happen
Speaker 1: to be so right, And I don't know. I've mixed
Speaker 1: emotions about that. No, I probably shouldn't have told that story. Well, no,
Speaker 1: I won't. I mean, it's what's done. It's done. But
Speaker 1: it also you know, you sort of go like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, that was an institution and you brought it down.
Speaker 1: I brought it down. I did, ye, which you know
Speaker 1: it was the right thing. I mean, were you know
Speaker 1: it was going to run its course eventually, but I
Speaker 1: brought it down prematurely. Pery could had another thirty years.
Speaker 1: But maybe that was good. Maybe it's like it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, when these people die really early, they get
Speaker 1: to thank you because I've had some sleepless nights over
Speaker 1: my behavior. But now you're you're easing my conscience. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I never am not good with regret. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: have time for regret. I'm just like Mary J. Blige,
Speaker 1: No drama, right y, that's what you always say. So
Speaker 1: you're at the height of your celebrity, You're on magazine covers,
Speaker 1: you're starring in movies, and and then you went to college.
Speaker 1: Why because I had always wanted to go and it
Speaker 1: was a good It was a good school. To Princeton.
Speaker 1: That's like a really hard school. It's a very hard
Speaker 1: So you do all that work, you're already rich, and famous,
Speaker 1: which you know, which I think we all know fulfills
Speaker 1: absolutely everything in a person's life. What what was missing
Speaker 1: for Brookshields that you would make such a crazy decision
Speaker 1: to attend college with more boring people like I just
Speaker 1: can't imagine it. Um, I think I had the the
Speaker 1: vision and the sort of foresight to know. Now, maybe
Speaker 1: because I had been working for so many decades by
Speaker 1: that point, there's a sense of it wasn't something I
Speaker 1: was striving for, something I had done all my life,
Speaker 1: so it was a lot as much I just assumed
Speaker 1: I would always continue it, but I also knew the
Speaker 1: way the industry breaks you down, the way it tries
Speaker 1: to attack you for everything. And now, I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't even think I could handle it if now with
Speaker 1: social media. But the idea of attaining something that could
Speaker 1: not be taken away from you and was arguably threatening
Speaker 1: to people was really exciting to me. And four years
Speaker 1: of just being in one environment and this beautiful setting,
Speaker 1: I mean, I had it. There was a dream quality
Speaker 1: to it for me. You know, I wanted I wanted
Speaker 1: to go to a old IVY League college, the IVY
Speaker 1: on the walls and you know, football games and so
Speaker 1: there was definitely in the heart of Texas, right Ivy,
Speaker 1: mostly in the southwest, is that correct? Actually Swiss? Yeah,
Speaker 1: this was in Princess in Baltimore, Jersey, New Jersey. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I noticed though my first UM press conference after I
Speaker 1: had been at school for a semester. They didn't like
Speaker 1: me having more articulate answers. Oh, very threatened. They were threatened.
Speaker 1: They sort of wanted little Brook again, and they wanted
Speaker 1: to catch me in things. And it was it was
Speaker 1: fun to sort of play around with them in a way,
Speaker 1: A very empowering time for you, Sanctuary, it was, and
Speaker 1: it was fun. Do you have I want to say?
Speaker 1: And this is a serious question when someone's big, Well,
Speaker 1: my questions have been serious, I know, but I'm yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, I just um no. But just when you
Speaker 1: phrase it like that, it makes like I stayed up
Speaker 1: all night to do this research. Anyway, go ahead, Carolina, Okay.
Speaker 1: Do you ever want to say to someone when they're
Speaker 1: being they're undermining you, or just do you ever want
Speaker 1: to just say you, I went to Princeton. Um, you
Speaker 1: didn't go to school, But I would say that if
Speaker 1: she went to a real hole. Sarah Lawrence, So, Sarah
Speaker 1: Lawrence is not. Oh okay, well I'm not hearing good
Speaker 1: things lately. No, it's a very very good school. Sorry,
Speaker 1: go ahead, broke, go ahead. Um No. You know what's
Speaker 1: even better is just thinking that and then not reducing
Speaker 1: yourself to their level. You're so much more emotionally mature,
Speaker 1: and I am, because I would just I would hammer
Speaker 1: people with that as soon as I walked into the door. Overtly.
Speaker 1: I won't ever throw it in someone's face because I
Speaker 1: think by doing that you've weakened your position, because you've
Speaker 1: gotten petty. But you could always wear a jacket and
Speaker 1: then if they're being rude, un zip it and you
Speaker 1: have a Princeton shirt under yes, right, or like scratch
Speaker 1: your scratch society of your face, but have your class
Speaker 1: ring showing a lot, have the fight song queued up
Speaker 1: on your cellular device ready to play at any time,
Speaker 1: and say, oh, sorry, that's just my school, that's just
Speaker 1: the theme song. Wow, I wish I had gone to college.
Speaker 1: You didn't. You didn't go to well, you've taken some
Speaker 1: online course that took some online Phoenix University. Yes, before
Speaker 1: they were located in Phoenix. Oh okay, So can we
Speaker 1: talk about the Brookshields Timeless collection for a moment you're
Speaker 1: doing that with with QVC and and yes, I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe you could introduce me to some of
Speaker 1: the folks at QVC because I'd like to launch my
Speaker 1: own fashion line, but they're not returning my calls. Ron
Speaker 1: has been doing some sketches on scrap paper, kind of
Speaker 1: just pants and pants. It's it's it's actually a line
Speaker 1: of formal wear for infants. Um a lot of tuxes
Speaker 1: and ball gowns. Oh, there's some very room entering sketches.
Speaker 1: I mean it makes the met Ball look like an
Speaker 1: episode of he Haw, you know, so wow. You know
Speaker 1: what's good about that is that, especially if the kids
Speaker 1: can't walk, you don't have to worry about shoes, and
Speaker 1: that sometimes can make or break an entire outfit. Thank you, Broke,
Speaker 1: thank you. I can introduce you to some of the
Speaker 1: creative team. They are a give me names right now?
Speaker 1: Can you give me names and phone numbers right now?
Speaker 1: They're in Philly. I'll um, I'll put you in touch
Speaker 1: with the right people. I think that it's a really
Speaker 1: amazing team of people. So why won't they get back
Speaker 1: to me. You've just been mailing them in with I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe we should just start getting on the internet more.
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm try to sell a deep fryar
Speaker 1: or a panini oven or something like that, because maybe
Speaker 1: the fashion game is not is not in me. It's
Speaker 1: only baby clothes or baby clothes or bust. You did
Speaker 1: say ballgowns, but baby ballgowns, baby ballgowns, baby ballgowns. Maybe petwear?
Speaker 1: What about pet wear? Pet wear? Okay, wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 1: hold on here, let me write this down. Pet war.
Speaker 1: I could see that ron Burgundy pet wear. It has
Speaker 1: a nice If you can get me in with the
Speaker 1: QBC folks, that would just and I won't expect anything
Speaker 1: other than just a conversation, so Brook, that would be
Speaker 1: hugely helpful. Absolutely, And I think if you started with pets,
Speaker 1: there's such a uh, it doesn't matter masculine, feminine, you know,
Speaker 1: it's they're such a big, big audience. Well, of course,
Speaker 1: my best friend is my dog Baxter, so I know
Speaker 1: everything about Yes, Brooke, let me. You've been such a
Speaker 1: mental health advocate over the years, and I know at
Speaker 1: times it's it's been very difficult, both personally and publicly,
Speaker 1: and I just want to take a moment to commend
Speaker 1: you for your bravery with that. But I'd also like
Speaker 1: to ask you if you have a number of a therapist. Um,
Speaker 1: it's not for me, it's for Carolina. Uh, well that's
Speaker 1: a very personal Well I'm trying to help you, Carolina,
Speaker 1: I really think you should see someone. It's it's just
Speaker 1: sometimes it's like you're trying to undermine me or sabotage
Speaker 1: the work I'm doing on the show. And I think
Speaker 1: I think you should talk to a professional, the professional
Speaker 1: recommended by Brookshields. Run. How am I trying to sabotage you?
Speaker 1: That seems so weird and paranoid. Maybe you should see
Speaker 1: a therapist And that's ridiculous, that's ridiculous. Or maybe or
Speaker 1: what about like a marriage counselor but for people that
Speaker 1: have to work so closely to each other, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe you both some stuff off your chest about the
Speaker 1: other person, but in a safe and I'll stay for
Speaker 1: the first five minutes check it out, and then I'll
Speaker 1: come back for the last five I see what you
Speaker 1: can come in. I mean I can mediate, but Brooke,
Speaker 1: you would mediate a counseling session between us, that would
Speaker 1: be I would absolutely I did, but I told you
Speaker 1: I had a Well it's a minor in psych But
Speaker 1: you know what, why don't when we're in Philly together. Well,
Speaker 1: they have these quiet rooms. Perfect, have these quiet rooms
Speaker 1: at QBC because you usually have to sometimes stay there
Speaker 1: all night because it runs QBC runs seven. Um, but
Speaker 1: they have these quiet rooms, almost like nap rooms in
Speaker 1: a hospital or something, and we could probably use one
Speaker 1: of those rooms. Perfect. I think that would work great.
Speaker 1: But once again, just as long as we know the
Speaker 1: expectation level of me coming in for the first five minutes.
Speaker 1: If I like it, I'll stay. Maybe we'll just both
Speaker 1: commit to staying. Well, if I get on QVC, I'll
Speaker 1: totally commit. Yeah, well you've you've truly done it all. Brooke, Um,
Speaker 1: I mean Brookshields, much like Ron Burgundy is a household name.
Speaker 1: You've met every celebrity there is to meet. Is there
Speaker 1: anyone you you would still like to meet? Like, let
Speaker 1: me guess, would you like to meet the guys from
Speaker 1: that band who sing the song take Me to Church?
Speaker 1: I would love that I play that all the time.
Speaker 1: Take me to church. I'll worship you like a dog
Speaker 1: at the shine of your lives. You know that those guys. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'd love to meet that guy. I get kitty when
Speaker 1: I meet famous people. Oh I My life is dedicated
Speaker 1: in the pursuit of meeting famous people. Ron actually recently
Speaker 1: has been just going to l a X Airport and
Speaker 1: just hanging down. I followed the MZ guys and just
Speaker 1: stay on their shoulders. So smart, and I'm just like,
Speaker 1: who do we got coming in today? Yeah? I like
Speaker 1: meeting famous people. I mean, I think it's just I
Speaker 1: still get star struck. I mean I was like that
Speaker 1: since I was a little kid. The most star struck
Speaker 1: I ever got was when I met Nick Nulty. That
Speaker 1: was your most I was weak in the knees and
Speaker 1: I just I didn't know what to say. I couldn't
Speaker 1: even say anything. I just gave him a bear hug,
Speaker 1: give him a bear hug, and and I just I'm
Speaker 1: so proud of you. It's so unsettling. Are you mistaken
Speaker 1: for anybody ever? Uh? There have been a couple periods
Speaker 1: of time where I haven't had a mustache, very rare,
Speaker 1: and I've been mistaken for Rachel Maddow. Umh. So other
Speaker 1: than that, Nope, that's good old RB in the house.
Speaker 1: You're so iconically you know, recognizable then, and that's what
Speaker 1: we share, that's our common bond. The reference is often
Speaker 1: like they'll say, well, you know Brookshields, ron Burgner, they're
Speaker 1: both like one word kind of in the same sentence. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's nice to not be alone. Actually, I mean it's
Speaker 1: for a while. That was really isolating to me growing up.
Speaker 1: But finding someone that's akin to an understanding what it's
Speaker 1: like it is comforting. Brookshields. We cannot thank you enough
Speaker 1: for visiting us today on the podcast. It has been
Speaker 1: an absolute treat. Thank you for spending the time with us.
Speaker 1: Thank you for all your insight and views on life
Speaker 1: and your career, and it's been truly fascinating. Thank you
Speaker 1: very much. Well, I will get those numbers to you
Speaker 1: as soon as I that would be great. And and
Speaker 1: for our listeners if you haven't seen it, check out
Speaker 1: the episode of Super Fun Night featuring brook Shields. She's
Speaker 1: done so much in her career, but she was a
Speaker 1: guest star on that show and she was she was terrific.
Speaker 1: And yes, if you could get me the the therapist
Speaker 1: referral for Carolina, that would be great. I'll get a couple.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Brooke. Thank you. We really appreciate it, and
Speaker 1: we'll be right back with more on the Ron Burgundy
Speaker 1: Podcast right after this. Welcome back to the Ron Burgundy Podcast.
Speaker 1: This is Ron Burgundy along with Carolina. Here are my
Speaker 1: final thoughts. Today. We talked to Canada's Brookshields class act
Speaker 1: through and through and the one thing that was remarkable
Speaker 1: to me is her humility and grace, something I wish
Speaker 1: I had more of. If we could bottle that class
Speaker 1: and grace and dignity and give nine to our world
Speaker 1: leaders and the other three percent to Carolina, I guarantee
Speaker 1: we would solve the world's problems. So of the Donald
Speaker 1: Trump's and the Kim Jungens and the Alexander Putin's out there,
Speaker 1: if you happen to be listening, try to handle yourself
Speaker 1: like Brookshields, and you might just might save the world.
Speaker 1: This is Ron Burgundy. Until next time, don't use public restrooms.
Speaker 1: The Ron Burgundy Podcast is a production of I Heart
Speaker 1: Radio and Funnier Down. I'm Ron Burgundy, the host, writer
Speaker 1: and executive producer. Carolina Barlow is my co host, writer
Speaker 1: and producer. Our producers are Jack O'Brien, Nixed of Miles
Speaker 1: Gray and Whitney Outday. Our executive producer is Mike fare
Speaker 1: Our consulting producer is Andrew Steele. Our coordinating producer is
Speaker 1: Colin McDow. Our associate producers are Anna Hosnian and Sophie Lichtroman.
Speaker 1: Our writer is Jake Fogers. Our production coordinator is Hannah Jacobson.
Speaker 1: This episode was engineered, mixed, and edited by Nick Stop
Speaker 1: Until next time, This is Ron Berger No No in
Speaker 1: My Life.