1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Get nasty and touch your body, get nasty and tell 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: your friend hands get nasty, but don't tell you mama. 3 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: Rom Burgundy is one Batman Romberguny podcast. Oh yes, Oh 4 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: I wake up to that song every morning and it 5 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,959 Speaker 1: really gives me a jolt. Hello. This is Ron Burgundy 6 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: and welcome once again to the Ron Burgundy Podcast. Carolina. 7 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 1: How are you doing today? I'm good? Thanks for asking? 8 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: Are you're just good or great? I'm good? Why not great? 9 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: Because I'm great? Guess what I did yesterday? I don't 10 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: know what did you do? I got my back waxed. Now, 11 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: what would you say it to bookled? Waxing would cost 12 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: I mean you should know, right, I don't being a 13 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: lady at all. Okay, well, I guess if you go 14 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: to a decent spot, it will cost you anywhere. I'm 15 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: guessing bingo. I got my waxing done for four dollars, 16 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: my entire back for four measly bucks. Okay, Oh you 17 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: know what that makes sense? Um? Because you're bleeding a 18 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: little bit through the back of your shirt. That means 19 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: it was a good waxing. They got the entire hair follicle. 20 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: If you say I know so, run is how long 21 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 1: has it been bleeding? It's been bleeding all night long. Okay, 22 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: you shouldn't go cheap on waxing. I had to throw 23 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: my sheets out my bed. Oh my god. Yeah, but listen, 24 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: don't lecture me on my body. It's my body, I know. 25 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: But if you can afford a healthier and safe waxing 26 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: salon for your information, this wasn't a salon. It was 27 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: an auto collision repair shop slash bird breeder. So they're 28 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: now where was I? All right? One of the great 29 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: things about this podcast, which sets it apart from three 30 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: or four other podcasts out there, On this show, it's 31 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: a chance for two American icons to chat one on 32 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: one with each other, candidly American. No hold on, I'm 33 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: not done. To call my next guest in American Icon 34 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: would actually be an understatement. She began her show business 35 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: career when she was only eleven months old as a 36 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: model for Ivory Soap. Can you imagine that eleven months old? 37 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: It's incredible. This blatant disregard for child labor laws catapulted 38 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: her and to start him. At twelve, she starred in 39 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: the breakout film Pretty Baby, directed by Lewis Malley, it's 40 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: actually Louis mal You're mispronouncing it, are you sure? Oh? 41 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: Because look at this that reads If you look there, 42 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: that reads Louis Malley. To me, how would you pronounce this? 43 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: I'm actually I'm pretty sure it's Gluie maw He's an 44 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: acclaimed French filmmaker. Actually is he? Well, did he direct 45 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: any of the Cannonball Run movies? No, but I can 46 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: fact check that. See if Lewis malle directed any Cannonball 47 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: Run movies? Can you do that? Caroline? Okay, I'm in 48 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: the middle of my guest introduction. It's supposed to be 49 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: a big build up to a discussion between two American icons, 50 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: and you've you've really disrupted the flow. So can I 51 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: finish this? Go ahead? Okay. She was the youngest fashion 52 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: model to ever appear on the cover of Voge, a 53 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: regular at famed New York discotheque Studio fifty four, and then, 54 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: for some crazy reason, she decided to leave all that 55 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: fun and excitement of modeling and starring in movies to 56 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: attend Princeton University. Wow, is this a typo? Is this really? Okay? 57 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: This is not a move I would have made. No way. Well, 58 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: we'll have to talk about that anyway. She's an absolute legend, 59 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: you know her from everything from the Blue Lagoon to 60 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: Suddenly Susan. It is my extreme emnor to Welcome to 61 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: the Ron Burgundy Podcast, the iconic Brookshields. But first let's 62 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: take a commercial break and we are back Ron Burgundy Podcast. 63 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: As I mentioned before, what an exciting episode we are 64 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:31,239 Speaker 1: with an icon Brookshields. Brooke, how are you today? Thanks 65 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: for joining us. Oh, I'm fine. Thank you so much 66 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: for inviting me. Brooke. I'm sorry if you hold on 67 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: for a second, I need to do a live commercial read. Um. 68 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: I know you you just got on the phone, but 69 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: I just have to kind of take care of business here. 70 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: Squatty potty. It's that little stool you put in your 71 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: bathroom to make sure you're using the toilet correctly when 72 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: you're doing a number two. Okay, you know, Caroline, I 73 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: don't want to have to read this ad right now, 74 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: not with brook Shields online. Can we can we just 75 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: do this later? Absolutely could have read it. Leader. That 76 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: was the decision you just made on your own. What's 77 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 1: done is done? Uh, Brookshields. Let me just ask you 78 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: this about your name, Brooke. Is it short for Brookline, Massachusetts. 79 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: It's actually not, but um my, mom, uh. She liked 80 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: a photograph and the photographer was named Christian Brooks, I think, 81 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: and so she liked the name brook and she So 82 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: you're not let's put this to rest. You're not from Brookline, Massachusetts. 83 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm from where were you born? Born and 84 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: raised in Manhattan? Oh? Okay, well, then who am I thinking? 85 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: Was born in Brookline, Massachusetts. That's an American icon. Oh, 86 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: I you know who I'm thinking of. It's it's Michael Dukakus. 87 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: Never mind. Oh you know I went to school with 88 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: Andrea his daughter. Oh my gosh, were you so nervous 89 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: around Andrew all the time because her father was Michael 90 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: Dukakis an American icon? You know what? She's really really 91 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: bright and so her I'm sure. I'm sure. I As 92 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 1: a point, I try to not hang out with people 93 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: who are smarter than me because I get sweaty palms 94 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: and it can be intimidating. It's formidable, it's more formidable. 95 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: It's a good word. If you use that word with 96 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: smart people, I think, well, thank you, see Carolina, I 97 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: am Brooke thinks I'm smart. Ron wrote formidable down the 98 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: pad and it's been waiting to use it all day. 99 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: Good it's the word a day. Maybe you should do 100 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: a word every day. I wrote formidable, and then right 101 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: next the word I'm going to use tomorrow is coxyx, 102 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: which is the medical term for your tailbone. That would 103 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: be more appropriate for the potty day. That's true, Brooke. 104 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: You've had such an impressive career and you truly are 105 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: an American. I kond of and it feels like it's 106 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:57,799 Speaker 1: impossible that we'll have time to cover everything. So forgive 107 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: me if I ask you about some of the things 108 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: you've talked about a zillion times before. Okay, I think 109 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 1: people will kill me if I am interviewing Brookshields and 110 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: I didn't ask you about the big stuff. So let's 111 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: get right into it, all right. Tell me about your 112 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: two thousand thirteen guest appearance on the ABC sitcom Super 113 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: Fun Night. Uh, well, I'm sure that's the first thing 114 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: people come up to you and they say, Super Fun Night. 115 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: I can't go through a week without being It's become 116 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: a cult, Broke. I want to talk about modeling. Um. 117 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: I think there's a huge misconception that you know modeling 118 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: is easy but I know from experience it's actually very 119 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: hard work. And you started so young. Do you remember 120 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: your first big modeling gig where you really felt like, WHOA, 121 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: I am a model? Um? I remember getting a cover 122 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: try Yes seventeen magazine and that I was so excited 123 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: about it and I didn't get it and it was crushing. 124 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:12,119 Speaker 1: It was crushing to me. And within the next year 125 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: or so, I then finally got the cover and I 126 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: remember thinking, I'm a I'm the real deal. I've been 127 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: doing catalogs. It was my first sort of major you 128 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: were part of the club, you were you would invited 129 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: to the party. I'll tell you the first time I 130 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: felt like a model of And of course I've been. 131 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: I've been doing some male modeling over the years, but 132 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: the first big one for me had to be in 133 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 1: nineteen and I did a print campaign for Virginia Slims 134 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: the cigarettes. Yes, and I'm sure you're wondering, excuse me, 135 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: Ron Burgundy. It was in an advertisement for Ladies cigarettes. Yes, 136 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 1: I was, but you were ahead of your time and 137 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: was ahead of my time. I love the product too. 138 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: They were sexy, definitely as a sexy approach, so it 139 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: seems very appropriate you know what, I really appreciate that 140 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: because I used to walk around and smoke, you know, 141 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,719 Speaker 1: the small, thin, little Virginia slims, and people would give 142 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: me a lot of flak. But I don't necessarily need 143 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: or needed back then a full cigarette. And clearly comfortable 144 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: in your masculinity. Well that's that's exactly right, and thank 145 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: you for for recognizing that. And I also, I mean, 146 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: I felt a responsibility to do it as a journalist. 147 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: So I ask you, Brooke, are you comfortable with your femininity? Femininity? 148 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: How do you say it? You got femininity? I have 149 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: become much more so since since having children. Actually, prior 150 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: to kids, I think just anything. Femininity was also synonymous 151 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: with um beauty to me, and for a long time 152 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: I sort of didn't want to pay attention to the physical, 153 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: to anything external, anything sort of and part of being 154 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: feminine was an external sort of expression of all that. 155 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: And it wasn't until I mean really until I got 156 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: pregnant and I started feeling that sense of female I 157 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: don't know, power, and then the femininity sort of grew 158 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: out of that because I used to think, oh, I 159 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: had to be the strong, tough one, so I was 160 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: always you know, the femininity was always also synonymous with 161 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: frail and petite and dainty and waif like. And I've 162 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 1: never been those things, wearing white lace gloves and carrying 163 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: a parasol out in the summertime. Absolutely, And so that 164 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: was it took me a while to sort of appreciate 165 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: how badass femininity can be. You're not going to get 166 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: an argument from me. I mean, you know, some say 167 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: that I exude toxic amounts of masculinity, but I also 168 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: have a feminine side, and I think every man does 169 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: and they shouldn't be afraid to embrace it. Do you agree? 170 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 1: I totally agree. In fact, I think it just highlights 171 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: the masculinity in the right way. I think when they 172 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: work in conjunction with each other, I think that's the sexiest. Wow. 173 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: I've started wearing lipstick once a week just to try 174 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: it out. You carry yourself then, totally totally do you 175 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: stand a little taller? Um doing a seat on the 176 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: city bus? Sorry? Go ahead, it chose a different side 177 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: to people. Sorry interrupted you? Um, no, no, I try 178 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: not to do that again, please, I won't. Okay, I'm 179 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: doing a show called a pilot. We're doing a pilot 180 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: called glamorous, and it's all about the makeup world, and 181 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: it's all about what we were talking about, this sort 182 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: of masculine feminine and this celebration and kind of embracing it, 183 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: and it's so refreshing. So this is full circle. This 184 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: is full circle here. Yep, we have to we have 185 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 1: to talk about your classic Calvin Klein Jenes commercials. I mean, 186 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 1: they are, let's face it, they are part of American 187 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: pop cultural history. And I mean, how how many years 188 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: later and we're still talking about them specifically because I'm 189 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: bringing them up. And but you said, and I quote 190 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: unless you want to say it. Um, you said, you 191 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 1: want to know what comes between me and my Calvin's. 192 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: And then you took a pause and said nothing. And 193 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: my question is what did you mean by that? Well, 194 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: first of all, you are one of the first people 195 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: to properly quote it. What do people usually says? They 196 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: have always said, nothing comes between me and my Calvin's. Now, 197 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure I was probably really naive at that age anyway, 198 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,599 Speaker 1: But the idea of the whole series of commercials was 199 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: that each sentence, each saying, had a double meaning to it. 200 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 1: So there was this hoop lab about it. And they 201 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: pulled the commercial because they said it meant I wasn't 202 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: wearing any underwear or they started playing with the spelling 203 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: get out of the gutter. Yeah, so it was. I 204 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: thought it was pathetic. And yet the controversy surrounding it 205 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: and the novelty of their approach and advertising is why 206 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: when the new UM creative director, Raf Simmons, who's now left, 207 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: but when he came on, he brought back the image 208 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: that was used in the in those ads because it 209 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: became like this pop pop icon e Like you said, 210 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 1: the iconography of it was brought sort of into the 211 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: hip hop world. Yeah, I have a I have a 212 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: T shirt with your image on it. It's kind of cool. 213 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: I mean I had to buy mine. I had to buy. 214 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: I had to It wasn't cheap. I was like, can't 215 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: you guys give you went? Wow, you had to buy 216 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: your own T shirt of yourself? Mm hmm. How much 217 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: was it one twenty or something like that? Definitely that's 218 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: a rip, right, you know that nothing's free. Well, you 219 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: just can't ever wear it or wash it. I know. 220 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: I'm afraid. What did anyone ever try to steal your 221 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: Calvin Klein jeans? No? Um, but I've just found the 222 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: original pears. I had three of them. My mom kept everything, 223 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: and I recently was going through a warehouse of stuff, literally, 224 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: and she had this whole Calvin. I've kept every single 225 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: mustache comb I've ever owned, just in case or some 226 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: of them really pretty like that might be really pretty. 227 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: Some of them are bejeweled, some of them are Sadly, 228 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: I have to admit some. A lot of them are 229 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: made of ivory. I've contributed to the ivory ivory trade. 230 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: That's not Maybe it wasn't endangered. Then maybe it wasn't. 231 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: Let's just say that. And let's just say I didn't 232 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: go hunt elephants too so that I could get the 233 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: tusks to make my own mustache comb. No, let's say 234 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: that didn't happen, because it didn't say it didn't. And 235 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: if I was in a court of law, let's get 236 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: off this topic. Um. You know one time I had 237 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: a pair of jeans stolen from me and they weren't Calvin's. 238 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: They were Lee Jeans, also a good brand. Levi's lead 239 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: the Wrangler. Those are the originals. Yeah, I had an 240 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: incident with a rottweiler tried to steal jeans from me. 241 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: Were they on you? They were on my person? Yes? 242 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: Where was this? This was at the Pasadenas Rose Bowl 243 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: swap meat in the Rottweiler section. Ah did he he? 244 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: Or she? Doesn't matter? Yeah, I don't know. It was 245 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: a he. There was a big old set of balls 246 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: on that one. He was super charged with testosterone sensing 247 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: masculine yep. And we had a show down. I you 248 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: know what, I started the fight. This is so much 249 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: about the toxic masculine anywhere. Just so I went to 250 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: the rott Wilder section of the Rose Bowl swap meat, 251 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: and I just said, who wants a piece of me? 252 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: I just was feeling a bit randy that day. Rott 253 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: Wilder is an explosive, vicious animal. Beautiful, Yes, And you know, 254 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: while the rottwater was pinning me down and ripping my 255 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: lee jeans to shreds, I remember thinking I stopped screaming 256 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: and remember thinking this is a gorgeous animal, the power 257 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: of the beauty, the majesty, and all went slow. Yeah, 258 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: it all went slow. It's that fight or flight and 259 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: exactly everything slowed down. Brook. Let me ask you this, 260 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: Let me let me I'm gonna radically change subjects here 261 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: or maybe not so because you probably wore your your 262 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: Calvin clients to this place. Do you have any great 263 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: memories of Studio fifty four. I have the best memories 264 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: from Studio fifty Um. I first went there with Steve 265 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: Ruebel and Calvin Klein. Actually that guy didn't like me. Yeah, 266 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: you never let me in. No, was he manning the door? Yeah, 267 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: he was manning the door. He said, Ron Burgundy, I 268 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: don't like you. I will never let you in my nightclub. 269 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: Oh he's probably just jealous. Obviously that never happened to you. No, 270 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: And I never got subjected to the picking process. And 271 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: I also always went really early. My mom would let 272 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: me go, but we would have to I'd have to 273 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: go home because I had school the next It wasn't 274 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: like an early bird special. Yeah, but I really all 275 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to do was dance. Would you get there? What? PM? No, 276 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: they didn't open the doors until later, so it was 277 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: like eight. Like if there was an event, I could 278 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: get there right on time and then dance a few hours. 279 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: I would just go directly to the dance floor and 280 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: and then I'd gone home. I mean I And the 281 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: interesting thing was I was never offered any drugs. I was. 282 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: It was almost as if they were all on protection 283 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: duty or something from me, Like I was like the mascot. 284 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: I was sort of offs for you. They were. I 285 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: mean it was it was the late seventies, early eighties, 286 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: and it was crazy, but I felt I was protected. 287 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: And you know, it's interesting. There's a room that they 288 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:47,239 Speaker 1: call the it's on the fourth floor, and yeah, I 289 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: think it was. It was some druggy room or some 290 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: layer of some kind. And I never obviously never went 291 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 1: past the dance floor. And then when I did Cabaret 292 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: on Broadway, we did it at Studio fifty four, and 293 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 1: my dressing room was that actual room on the floor 294 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: in that room, and it was haunted. Haunted, No, no, 295 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: And it wasn't haunted, but it was. It actually had 296 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: a good energy to it. You hung out, run, you 297 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: had a club in New York though that you frequented. Well, 298 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: I would go to the you know, like I said, 299 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: I couldn't get into Studio fifty four, so I went 300 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: to a place called Studio fifty two and it was 301 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: a couple of blocks down, and you know, it wasn't 302 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 1: the same crowd. I mean, I hung out with like 303 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: Ed Cotch and a couple of the couple of guys 304 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: from shan on a. You know it was all right, Um, 305 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: you didn't have to get there early because it was 306 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: never full. He liked dancing. Ed Ed could really cut 307 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: a rug. He loved it. But I gotta be honest, 308 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: My pride was hurt that I never got in. And 309 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: this happened to me right in front of Grace Jones 310 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: and she laughed at me. But and I've never told 311 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: this story. But I got back at the studio fifty 312 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: four people. I called some buddies in the I R S. 313 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: And I just made up a bunch of wild stories 314 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: and I told them, you know what, go They've got 315 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: cash hidden in the ceiling and a safe, you know, 316 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: filled with like three hundred ludes in it. And I just, 317 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: you know, I made up a bunch of crazy lives 318 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: and a reason for the demise. Well, and then it 319 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: turned out to actually be true. So how did you 320 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: even know? I don't know. I don't It was just 321 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: a wild swing and I happened to be I happen 322 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: to be so right, And I don't know. I've mixed 323 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: emotions about that. No, I probably shouldn't have told that story. Well, no, 324 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: I won't. I mean, it's what's done. It's done. But 325 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: it also you know, you sort of go like, oh 326 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: my god, that was an institution and you brought it down. 327 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 1: I brought it down. I did, ye, which you know 328 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 1: it was the right thing. I mean, were you know 329 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: it was going to run its course eventually, but I 330 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: brought it down prematurely. Pery could had another thirty years. 331 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: But maybe that was good. Maybe it's like it's like, 332 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: you know, when these people die really early, they get 333 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: to thank you because I've had some sleepless nights over 334 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: my behavior. But now you're you're easing my conscience. Yeah. 335 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: I never am not good with regret. Yeah, I don't 336 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: have time for regret. I'm just like Mary J. Blige, 337 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: No drama, right y, that's what you always say. So 338 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: you're at the height of your celebrity, You're on magazine covers, 339 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: you're starring in movies, and and then you went to college. 340 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 1: Why because I had always wanted to go and it 341 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: was a good It was a good school. To Princeton. 342 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: That's like a really hard school. It's a very hard 343 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: So you do all that work, you're already rich, and famous, 344 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: which you know, which I think we all know fulfills 345 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: absolutely everything in a person's life. What what was missing 346 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: for Brookshields that you would make such a crazy decision 347 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: to attend college with more boring people like I just 348 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: can't imagine it. Um, I think I had the the 349 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: vision and the sort of foresight to know. Now, maybe 350 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 1: because I had been working for so many decades by 351 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: that point, there's a sense of it wasn't something I 352 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: was striving for, something I had done all my life, 353 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: so it was a lot as much I just assumed 354 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 1: I would always continue it, but I also knew the 355 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: way the industry breaks you down, the way it tries 356 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: to attack you for everything. And now, I mean, I 357 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: don't even think I could handle it if now with 358 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: social media. But the idea of attaining something that could 359 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: not be taken away from you and was arguably threatening 360 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: to people was really exciting to me. And four years 361 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: of just being in one environment and this beautiful setting, 362 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: I mean, I had it. There was a dream quality 363 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 1: to it for me. You know, I wanted I wanted 364 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: to go to a old IVY League college, the IVY 365 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: on the walls and you know, football games and so 366 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: there was definitely in the heart of Texas, right Ivy, 367 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: mostly in the southwest, is that correct? Actually Swiss? Yeah, 368 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: this was in Princess in Baltimore, Jersey, New Jersey. Yeah. 369 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: I noticed though my first UM press conference after I 370 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: had been at school for a semester. They didn't like 371 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 1: me having more articulate answers. Oh, very threatened. They were threatened. 372 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: They sort of wanted little Brook again, and they wanted 373 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: to catch me in things. And it was it was 374 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: fun to sort of play around with them in a way, 375 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 1: A very empowering time for you, Sanctuary, it was, and 376 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: it was fun. Do you have I want to say? 377 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: And this is a serious question when someone's big, Well, 378 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: my questions have been serious, I know, but I'm yeah, 379 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: of course, I just um no. But just when you 380 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: phrase it like that, it makes like I stayed up 381 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: all night to do this research. Anyway, go ahead, Carolina, Okay. 382 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: Do you ever want to say to someone when they're 383 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: being they're undermining you, or just do you ever want 384 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: to just say you, I went to Princeton. Um, you 385 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: didn't go to school, But I would say that if 386 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: she went to a real hole. Sarah Lawrence, So, Sarah 387 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 1: Lawrence is not. Oh okay, well I'm not hearing good 388 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 1: things lately. No, it's a very very good school. Sorry, 389 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: go ahead, broke, go ahead. Um No. You know what's 390 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: even better is just thinking that and then not reducing 391 00:24:53,960 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: yourself to their level. You're so much more emotionally mature, 392 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: and I am, because I would just I would hammer 393 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: people with that as soon as I walked into the door. Overtly. 394 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: I won't ever throw it in someone's face because I 395 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 1: think by doing that you've weakened your position, because you've 396 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: gotten petty. But you could always wear a jacket and 397 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 1: then if they're being rude, un zip it and you 398 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: have a Princeton shirt under yes, right, or like scratch 399 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: your scratch society of your face, but have your class 400 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: ring showing a lot, have the fight song queued up 401 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: on your cellular device ready to play at any time, 402 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 1: and say, oh, sorry, that's just my school, that's just 403 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: the theme song. Wow, I wish I had gone to college. 404 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: You didn't. You didn't go to well, you've taken some 405 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: online course that took some online Phoenix University. Yes, before 406 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: they were located in Phoenix. Oh okay, So can we 407 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,239 Speaker 1: talk about the Brookshields Timeless collection for a moment you're 408 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: doing that with with QVC and and yes, I'm just saying, 409 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: you know, maybe you could introduce me to some of 410 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: the folks at QVC because I'd like to launch my 411 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: own fashion line, but they're not returning my calls. Ron 412 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: has been doing some sketches on scrap paper, kind of 413 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: just pants and pants. It's it's it's actually a line 414 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: of formal wear for infants. Um a lot of tuxes 415 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: and ball gowns. Oh, there's some very room entering sketches. 416 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: I mean it makes the met Ball look like an 417 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: episode of he Haw, you know, so wow. You know 418 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: what's good about that is that, especially if the kids 419 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: can't walk, you don't have to worry about shoes, and 420 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: that sometimes can make or break an entire outfit. Thank you, Broke, 421 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 1: thank you. I can introduce you to some of the 422 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: creative team. They are a give me names right now? 423 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 1: Can you give me names and phone numbers right now? 424 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: They're in Philly. I'll um, I'll put you in touch 425 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: with the right people. I think that it's a really 426 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: amazing team of people. So why won't they get back 427 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: to me. You've just been mailing them in with I mean, 428 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 1: maybe we should just start getting on the internet more. 429 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: You know what, I'm try to sell a deep fryar 430 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: or a panini oven or something like that, because maybe 431 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: the fashion game is not is not in me. It's 432 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: only baby clothes or baby clothes or bust. You did 433 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: say ballgowns, but baby ballgowns, baby ballgowns, baby ballgowns. Maybe petwear? 434 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: What about pet wear? Pet wear? Okay, wait, wait, wait, 435 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: hold on here, let me write this down. Pet war. 436 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: I could see that ron Burgundy pet wear. It has 437 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: a nice If you can get me in with the 438 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: QBC folks, that would just and I won't expect anything 439 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: other than just a conversation, so Brook, that would be 440 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: hugely helpful. Absolutely, And I think if you started with pets, 441 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: there's such a uh, it doesn't matter masculine, feminine, you know, 442 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: it's they're such a big, big audience. Well, of course, 443 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: my best friend is my dog Baxter, so I know 444 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: everything about Yes, Brooke, let me. You've been such a 445 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 1: mental health advocate over the years, and I know at 446 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: times it's it's been very difficult, both personally and publicly, 447 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: and I just want to take a moment to commend 448 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: you for your bravery with that. But I'd also like 449 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: to ask you if you have a number of a therapist. Um, 450 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: it's not for me, it's for Carolina. Uh, well that's 451 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: a very personal Well I'm trying to help you, Carolina, 452 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: I really think you should see someone. It's it's just 453 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: sometimes it's like you're trying to undermine me or sabotage 454 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: the work I'm doing on the show. And I think 455 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: I think you should talk to a professional, the professional 456 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: recommended by Brookshields. Run. How am I trying to sabotage you? 457 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: That seems so weird and paranoid. Maybe you should see 458 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: a therapist And that's ridiculous, that's ridiculous. Or maybe or 459 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: what about like a marriage counselor but for people that 460 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: have to work so closely to each other, you know, 461 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: maybe you both some stuff off your chest about the 462 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: other person, but in a safe and I'll stay for 463 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: the first five minutes check it out, and then I'll 464 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: come back for the last five I see what you 465 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: can come in. I mean I can mediate, but Brooke, 466 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: you would mediate a counseling session between us, that would 467 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: be I would absolutely I did, but I told you 468 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: I had a Well it's a minor in psych But 469 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: you know what, why don't when we're in Philly together. Well, 470 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: they have these quiet rooms. Perfect, have these quiet rooms 471 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: at QBC because you usually have to sometimes stay there 472 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: all night because it runs QBC runs seven. Um, but 473 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: they have these quiet rooms, almost like nap rooms in 474 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: a hospital or something, and we could probably use one 475 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: of those rooms. Perfect. I think that would work great. 476 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: But once again, just as long as we know the 477 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: expectation level of me coming in for the first five minutes. 478 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: If I like it, I'll stay. Maybe we'll just both 479 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: commit to staying. Well, if I get on QVC, I'll 480 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: totally commit. Yeah, well you've you've truly done it all. Brooke, Um, 481 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: I mean Brookshields, much like Ron Burgundy is a household name. 482 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: You've met every celebrity there is to meet. Is there 483 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: anyone you you would still like to meet? Like, let 484 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: me guess, would you like to meet the guys from 485 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: that band who sing the song take Me to Church? 486 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: I would love that I play that all the time. 487 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: Take me to church. I'll worship you like a dog 488 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: at the shine of your lives. You know that those guys. Yes, 489 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: I'd love to meet that guy. I get kitty when 490 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: I meet famous people. Oh I My life is dedicated 491 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: in the pursuit of meeting famous people. Ron actually recently 492 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: has been just going to l a X Airport and 493 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: just hanging down. I followed the MZ guys and just 494 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: stay on their shoulders. So smart, and I'm just like, 495 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: who do we got coming in today? Yeah? I like 496 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: meeting famous people. I mean, I think it's just I 497 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: still get star struck. I mean I was like that 498 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: since I was a little kid. The most star struck 499 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: I ever got was when I met Nick Nulty. That 500 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: was your most I was weak in the knees and 501 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: I just I didn't know what to say. I couldn't 502 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: even say anything. I just gave him a bear hug, 503 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: give him a bear hug, and and I just I'm 504 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: so proud of you. It's so unsettling. Are you mistaken 505 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: for anybody ever? Uh? There have been a couple periods 506 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: of time where I haven't had a mustache, very rare, 507 00:31:53,720 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: and I've been mistaken for Rachel Maddow. Umh. So other 508 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: than that, Nope, that's good old RB in the house. 509 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: You're so iconically you know, recognizable then, and that's what 510 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: we share, that's our common bond. The reference is often 511 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: like they'll say, well, you know Brookshields, ron Burgner, they're 512 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: both like one word kind of in the same sentence. Yes, 513 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: it's nice to not be alone. Actually, I mean it's 514 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: for a while. That was really isolating to me growing up. 515 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: But finding someone that's akin to an understanding what it's 516 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: like it is comforting. Brookshields. We cannot thank you enough 517 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: for visiting us today on the podcast. It has been 518 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,959 Speaker 1: an absolute treat. Thank you for spending the time with us. 519 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: Thank you for all your insight and views on life 520 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: and your career, and it's been truly fascinating. Thank you 521 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: very much. Well, I will get those numbers to you 522 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: as soon as I that would be great. And and 523 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: for our listeners if you haven't seen it, check out 524 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: the episode of Super Fun Night featuring brook Shields. She's 525 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: done so much in her career, but she was a 526 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: guest star on that show and she was she was terrific. 527 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: And yes, if you could get me the the therapist 528 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: referral for Carolina, that would be great. I'll get a couple. 529 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: Thank you, Brooke. Thank you. We really appreciate it, and 530 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: we'll be right back with more on the Ron Burgundy 531 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: Podcast right after this. Welcome back to the Ron Burgundy Podcast. 532 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: This is Ron Burgundy along with Carolina. Here are my 533 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: final thoughts. Today. We talked to Canada's Brookshields class act 534 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: through and through and the one thing that was remarkable 535 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: to me is her humility and grace, something I wish 536 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: I had more of. If we could bottle that class 537 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: and grace and dignity and give nine to our world 538 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: leaders and the other three percent to Carolina, I guarantee 539 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 1: we would solve the world's problems. So of the Donald 540 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: Trump's and the Kim Jungens and the Alexander Putin's out there, 541 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: if you happen to be listening, try to handle yourself 542 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: like Brookshields, and you might just might save the world. 543 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 1: This is Ron Burgundy. Until next time, don't use public restrooms. 544 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: The Ron Burgundy Podcast is a production of I Heart 545 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 1: Radio and Funnier Down. I'm Ron Burgundy, the host, writer 546 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,919 Speaker 1: and executive producer. Carolina Barlow is my co host, writer 547 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: and producer. Our producers are Jack O'Brien, Nixed of Miles 548 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: Gray and Whitney Outday. Our executive producer is Mike fare 549 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: Our consulting producer is Andrew Steele. Our coordinating producer is 550 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 1: Colin McDow. Our associate producers are Anna Hosnian and Sophie Lichtroman. 551 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: Our writer is Jake Fogers. Our production coordinator is Hannah Jacobson. 552 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 1: This episode was engineered, mixed, and edited by Nick Stop 553 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 1: Until next time, This is Ron Berger No No in 554 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: My Life.