1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: The Bobby Bone Show. 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 2: I do want to start with a couple of voicemails. 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 2: Is Eric from Bismarck, North Dakota. 4 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 3: First time caller, and I've been a listeners since the 5 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 3: day that I heard live on the radio opening the 6 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 3: first thing from the Palette. Since that moment, I have 7 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 3: went back and listened to every single episode that has 8 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 3: been available. I'm about a year and a half sober, 9 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 3: and I don't know where I would be without you all. 10 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 4: You guys. 11 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 3: The chemistry just makes me feel like I'm part of 12 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 3: the family and I love you guys. I don't know 13 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 3: where i'd be without y'all. 14 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: Thanks man, congrats on a year and a half. And yeah, 15 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: the Palette, that's almost the voltimore of this show almost where. 16 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 2: We do speak about it occasionally, but we know we 17 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: trouble when we do. That's all. Yeah, But I just 18 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 2: don't want to get into it. I just want to 19 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: get it talk about it, but I'm not in the 20 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: mood to get into it now. But go ahead. 21 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 5: Can I just say I'm happy that the Palette was 22 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 5: able to help in his journey. 23 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: No, no, because the Palette has hurt our journey. It 24 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: made me start drinking it's the opposite of him. I've 25 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: never but because the palette, we have not got our 26 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: money back. I'm now I'll say it. I drink. 27 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: Oh no, you don't. It makes me so mad though. 28 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: Me too about what It pisses me off that we 29 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 2: don't have our money. 30 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 6: Yes, and I've had to let it go. Y'all need 31 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 6: to let it know. 32 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: We're not letting it go. We don't talk about it. 33 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 2: I'm moving. Hey, business people, you're not a business person. 34 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 7: Were Pokemon cars. They're still saying, we don't have any 35 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 7: money for that. 36 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 5: So you guys get that we bought and that bit 37 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 5: with stuff to hold and let it grow in value. 38 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 2: What do you think the stuff from the palace doing 39 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 2: that stuff's not growing in value. It's a piece of rope. 40 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 7: No, it's sold one hundred dollars bill and then. 41 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: Pay us to give us our part of what we have. 42 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 2: It's like when you started not like a like a 43 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 2: next voicemail. 44 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 6: Hi guys, Okay, I just saw that you hit three 45 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 6: hundred thousand subscribers on YouTube. 46 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 3: Curious as to if accounts since it was after the 47 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 3: show ended, or if you're gonna let it go let 48 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 3: me know. 49 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 2: Not sure that question. I think there are some comments 50 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: that we should have on this. We did hit, but 51 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: it was what I gave it until the show ended, 52 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: and then I gave another hour and a half and 53 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: we did not hit until even after we went off 54 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 2: the podcast after that. 55 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: But I think it was only like five minutes after that. 56 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: It was quick, but I did give it an extra 57 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: hour and a half because I really wanted to do it. 58 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: So I saw that you had three anything if it counts, 59 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: So no nobody got paid out because nobody hit it 60 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 2: in that, But I'm still going to pay somebody one 61 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: thousand dollars or all three of you one thousand dollars. Yes, 62 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: if we hit five hundred thousand before September first, or 63 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 2: one person gets thirty five hundred if what if you 64 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 2: decide to play a game for it. 65 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: I like it, but we'll get there first once we 66 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: hit that number. Week decide that. 67 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 2: But a lunchbox has a problem because he's tried to 68 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: figure out a way to wiggle in to say he 69 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 2: deserves one hundred dollars. 70 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 5: But yes, I would like to on behalf of Eddie 71 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 5: Morgan and myself. I would like to come into Bobby 72 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 5: Bones's courtroom and say that we actually did hit it 73 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 5: by the end of the show, because if you are 74 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 5: living in Sacramento, California, the show was still on the 75 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 5: air when we hit three hundred thousand, So technically the 76 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 5: show was still on. The show was still going when 77 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 5: we hit three hundred thousand, and you said by the 78 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 5: end of the show, and so my belief is the 79 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 5: show was not over. 80 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 2: So by the end of the show, then that argument 81 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: could be used because it's always streaming on one of 82 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: the channels. The iHeart channels like that too, it's always 83 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 2: on demand. No, it was until the end of the show, 84 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: as we do the show. When we ended the show, 85 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 2: I still said, I will give you guys another hour 86 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 2: and a half and it still didn't hit. But I'm 87 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: giving you guys the opportunity to make a lot more 88 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: money with the neck. By the way, I don't make 89 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: any money off of this. This is money I'm just 90 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: giving out of my own pocket. 91 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 4: Eddie. 92 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: We need sound, let's see that. 93 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: Sorry, you mean we do this whole thing with no sound. 94 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what Morgan is saying. 95 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 6: No way, lill bit, this isn't helping's case. 96 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: There, it is. 97 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: Oh my wave been this whole time. None of that 98 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,119 Speaker 2: went on. Did we at least get up for the podcast? Yeah, 99 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: we're recording of area we got. 100 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: It's just just a stream. 101 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 7: This wasn't our first day over here. 102 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: Oh my god, stop it. 103 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 8: You know it's not my fault. My computer updated. 104 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 6: Over the weekend, so it's not your fault. 105 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 8: But it did over the weekend and it restarts everything. 106 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 8: So like, I didn't see that. 107 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: That wasn't on. 108 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 2: So you didn't see, but it wasn't your fault. 109 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 1: But technically we were on air in the West Coast. 110 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: No, that's not true. We're on the air. 111 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 8: Technically it's the computer's fault, not mine. Yes, I'm sorry, dude, 112 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 8: it didn't see it up, But you just. 113 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 2: Said it wasn't your fault, So why are you sorry? 114 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: Well, because this computer when it restarts it like does. 115 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 2: I just want to do a quick lesson for everybody listening, 116 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: just in general. If something's ever your fault, just say 117 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 2: that's on me, my fault. I'll get better, sorry about that, 118 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 2: and move on because that allows everybody to move on, 119 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: allows you to move on, allows the people that are 120 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 2: over you to move on, and everybody when you say 121 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: it's not my fault, and obviously was your fault. All 122 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: it does is extend the communication about whose fault it 123 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 2: was and where either the lack of communication from you 124 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: or the lack of or the inability of whatever program 125 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 2: we're using to run. So now that's extended a whole 126 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:14,679 Speaker 2: bunch more. 127 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 6: So and further infuriates your superior. 128 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 2: Well, it's just like it was it your fault? Was 129 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 2: it your fault? 130 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: I should I should have seen that on there, my 131 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: bad man. 132 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 2: Just in general in life. If that's it, Yeah, it 133 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 2: sucks for a second, but it's like a pill man, 134 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 2: it tastes very good, but all right onward. 135 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: You know what's stupid about this whole thing? 136 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 2: Though, Okay, I would just move on. 137 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 6: This is also a space where we get to talk 138 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 6: things through and we move on. 139 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: But I think we do this and we have to 140 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 2: keep going on a podcast. But cut our stream and 141 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: start it over, because anybody watching the beginning of that's 142 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 2: going to see four minutes of silence and they're not 143 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 2: going to watch the stream. 144 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: I wouldn't or maybe they just got on right now, 145 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. 146 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 2: It goes loaded up as a YouTube video, which you're 147 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: trying to get more videos for therefore, why would anybody 148 00:05:58,040 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 2: watch any of the content? 149 00:05:59,120 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 6: All right, take it down? 150 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, we did a video on YouTube and no, 151 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 5: I mean, Morgan thought this was gonna get so many 152 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 5: views and got nine hundred views. 153 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: Okay, but you can't fight those video hold on algorithms. 154 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 2: You cannot predict. So I'm not gonna be on anybody 155 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 2: for putting anything up. 156 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 7: I was just being funny. 157 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 5: I was like, I looked at it, and I was like, man, 158 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 5: I thought we were gonna I was like, that. 159 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: Was you being funny? It was okay, So can we 160 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 2: start the stream over? But keep the podcast going. 161 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: A Morgan, I'm sure, I mean you can do anything. 162 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 2: Okay, just start the stream over. 163 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're still recording over here, raising. 164 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: And let me know where when it comes back. 165 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: And this is what I was gonna say. 166 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 2: What everybody just hushed. Everybody hush. 167 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 7: He's mad at me. 168 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: I'm not mad at you. 169 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 2: Everybody, No, everybody shush. Start the stream over. Let me 170 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: know when we're back on, and then we will start again. 171 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 2: But we won't start over. But from the start of 172 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: that content on video, if you don't hook people in 173 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 2: the first few seconds, nobody's gonna watch any of it, 174 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 2: and you're running us with four minutes of silence. There's 175 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 2: no way that then would get over like fifty views. Now, 176 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 2: people may turn on the Facebook stream because that is live, 177 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 2: or watch it live on YouTube, but if we want 178 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 2: you able to watch it as it's loaded, they're not 179 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 2: going tom But these are the decisions you have to 180 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 2: make in order to get more followers. 181 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 5: I'm interested to see what Eddie was mad about. 182 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 2: I want to wait till the stream comes up. Are 183 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: we working on it now and Morgan's working on the 184 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,119 Speaker 2: back end. It's not I'm Morgan, not Mortgan's fault. 185 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: No one's blaming Morgan. 186 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 7: That's just getting you the key. 187 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: Thank you, and I'm looking. We'll get to it. 188 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: Bekay. 189 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 2: You know what, why don't we just go to the 190 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: Atom Dirret's interview. Oh, we'll come back on the other 191 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: side of the Atom dirrets interview. Okay, Okay, so we'll 192 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 2: just we'll just shut it all down. 193 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 6: But also just so Eddie feels better, maybe because of 194 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 6: the everything we talked about, somebody listening to that is 195 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 6: going to mess up at work this week and they're 196 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 6: going to own it right away because of you and 197 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 6: it's gonna be better. It's gonna be better for them. 198 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 2: They're gonna call it an eddie. 199 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: I pulled on Eddie. 200 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 2: Okay, so let's do this. Let's go to Adam Durrett's 201 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 2: from Counting Crows and we'll come back on the backside 202 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 2: on the Bobby Bone Show. 203 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 7: Now, Adam Durrett's Counting Crows. 204 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: Adam going to see you again, buddy. Hey, no, I 205 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: realized there's things going on in the head that I'm 206 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: missing out on. 207 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: It was literally a voice just going And now Adam 208 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 2: Durrett's Counting Crows. I mean, if you really wanted to 209 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: hear that? 210 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: Did sound cool? 211 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 9: Yeah? 212 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: Intro seven out of ten? 213 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: All right, okay, it's cool. I was as long as 214 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: I got the idea. Now I feel like I've hit 215 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:34,599 Speaker 1: the stage. There's been a yeah, I'm here here. Do 216 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: you guys have an intro? 217 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 2: Now? When you come out? Like? Why do you guys 218 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 2: come out? 219 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 9: Uh? 220 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: We usually played this song it lately it's been stand by. 221 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: It's lying the family stone, lights go down, stand comes on. 222 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: We come on about midway through the song. 223 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 2: So the song is playing like over the top and 224 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 2: you guys walk out on the hall, it comes out 225 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 2: when you do a set list. How often does it 226 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 2: change during a tour? 227 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 3: Oh? 228 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 1: Every night? 229 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: Is that part of your or you know, I don't 230 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: know creative nightly task is to recreate the set list? 231 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, im or who he was here a second ago. 232 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: He and I do it after dinner sometime. 233 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 2: Does that depend on the mood that you're in. 234 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, just sort of what do you want to 235 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: play tonight? That way, we're playing stuff we want to play. 236 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 2: Do you ever do want of you ever go hey, 237 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 2: maybe we haven't played this song in a while, we 238 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 2: throw this in. Is there ever like a battle? 239 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: No, it's usually like that, you know, somebody wants it's 240 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: I mean, anybody in the band can say, hey, you know, 241 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: I've been really dying to play this, and if we 242 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: you know, if it's if we've been playing it, we 243 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 1: just stick in the set list. If we haven't been, 244 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: we'll work it at sound check and then put it 245 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: in the set list. Sometimes we need a few days 246 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: to work on something if we haven't played it for 247 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: a decade or something. You know, Oh, you'll bring old 248 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: songs back sometimes, yeah, because people like you know, we 249 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: have so many records at this point and so many songs, 250 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: and people like get to where they're dying to hear 251 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: someone or someone's girlfriend is pretty insistent about something. My 252 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 1: girlfriend really wanted us to play this song, Butterfly and 253 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: Reverse for a long time, and it was a song 254 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: even when it was released we only played it once 255 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: or twice. One of my friends checked on the whatever 256 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: the archive, we only played it once or twice, and 257 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: we worked on it and put it in the set. 258 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: And now it's been like every night for a few years. 259 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: That everybody loved it so much that it's kind of 260 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: stuck in there. But yeah, you know, there's things you 261 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: haven't played in a long time. 262 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 2: Are there any songs that you feel you have to 263 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 2: play every night? Is there one song that stays in 264 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: the thread the whole time? A long December does nothing else? 265 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't feel like there's anything I have 266 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 2: to play every night, because sometimes you just get tired 267 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 2: of it. There anything there is, you get tired of it. 268 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 2: Except for some reason, for me, A long December, I 269 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 2: never get tired of it. There's never been a night 270 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 2: where I didn't want to play it. I don't know 271 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 2: why that is. I have no idea, but I was 272 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: kind of excited to play it like an arrangement change 273 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 2: up on that song, like playing it by yourself at 274 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 2: a piano or the full band. Does that ever change 275 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 2: even though the thread as you play that song every night. 276 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we'll change little details of it. There's 277 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: little like breakdowns that go into it. For the last 278 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: couple year and a half, I started, I just was 279 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: we went to see Taylor Swift and it was really great, 280 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: and I really loved that song, the one, and so 281 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 1: I started like backstage working on a version of it 282 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: by myself, and then I just walked down stage one 283 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: night and played it and let it right into A 284 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: Long December. So it the end of that song built 285 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: and became the intro to A Long December. And I've 286 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: been doing it that way for about a year now 287 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: and I'm really loving it. I don't know, It's such 288 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: a great song and it was a real cool surprise 289 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: to then crash it into a Long December and start 290 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: that song from there. So I've been doing it that way, 291 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: but I've done that with different songs. I remember doing 292 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: it with Live Forever, that Oasis song. We were touring Anyone 293 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: once and I went, you know, and figured out how 294 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: to play Love Forever and then just surprised everybody on 295 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: stage at one. 296 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 2: Night with cell phones too. It's got to be different 297 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 2: because if you're gonna go do Taylor the one that's 298 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: either gonna go super viral or it's not, it's gonna 299 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 2: be kind of weird. 300 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: Well, it was kind of cool because at some point 301 00:11:55,160 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: midway through the first verse, I always hear the scream 302 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: from a bunch of girls, like it happens because it's 303 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: not immediately recognizable as that song because I'm playing it 304 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: pretty differently. It's kind of inside out. But at some point, 305 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: like two thirds of the way through the third verse 306 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: or the first verse, there's just a scream from a 307 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: bunch of girls who realize what's going on, and then 308 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 1: I don't know where they're hitting their mom going no, 309 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: you don't understand, mom. 310 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: How has content creation been for you with music, because 311 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 2: that's different for anybody that was, you know, playing the 312 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 2: nineties and two thousands. I have friends now that are 313 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 2: struggling with man, I have to make content now to 314 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 2: go with my music. How has that been for you 315 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 2: and you guys. 316 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: Well, it's kind of a I was really enthusiastic about 317 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: social media when it first started, I was on the 318 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 1: message boards at AOL, you know, in ninety six when 319 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: I realized, oh, here's a way to talk directly to fans, 320 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: I don't have to go through the press or something. 321 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: And then when Twitter came out, I really jumped on that. 322 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 1: But the problem is you're not always at the forefront 323 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: of something, Like you're patting yourself on the back for 324 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: being on the message boards, you know, ten years before 325 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: social media, and then you're patting yourself on the back 326 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: for building up Twitter, and you don't realize that Instagram 327 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: is the next thing, or you don't or you finally 328 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: get a hold of that. And you know, as you're older, 329 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: you're not in touch with the same stuff that kids are, 330 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: and so you don't realize that TikTok is really important. 331 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: You know that it's just inevitable that you fall behind 332 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: because you're not keyed into the same you know, zeitgeist 333 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: as kids are. But yeah, you just kind of adjust, 334 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: you try to. I mean, I think at this point 335 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: in my life, I'm always a little behind, which is okay. 336 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: It's you know, it's kind of fun to catch up. 337 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: Sometimes some of my friends are like, man, I hate 338 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: singing into a phone like that. They really have struggle 339 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: with like singing in their songs into a phone to 340 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: put it on TikTok? 341 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 2: Was that? Ever, when you shot content, do you shoot 342 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 2: it wider because you can shoot a video ish style 343 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 2: or where it doesn't feel as ridiculous, because it does 344 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 2: feel kind of weird to put your phone up and 345 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 2: sing right into it. How are you guys doing that? 346 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: Well? Early on, I mean, I don't mind singing into 347 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: my phone because I was doing it for voice memos. 348 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: It was like, Wow, I got a thing I can record, 349 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: I work on new songs. I can record and write them. 350 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: That seemed like the coolest thing in the world to me. 351 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: I didn't need a recording studio. I had my phone. 352 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: And then I started doing like it was a little 353 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: while to learn how to do all the stuff and 354 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: learn to edit. You know, I had to go learn 355 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: how to edit stuff, get the editing apps. And I 356 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: was making cooking videos because I was bored during the pandemic. 357 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: So I was making I was, you know, teaching kind 358 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: of cooking lessons on my Instagram. And then you know, 359 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: I watch a lot of it. I see people doing 360 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: these clips of songs and how you only have to 361 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: do a whole song. But clips of songs are really 362 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: cool and I kind of like watching them, So, you know, 363 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: I wised up to doing that, but it took me 364 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: till this record to wise up to doing that. It's 365 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: not hard to do them though, sometimes doing my phone. 366 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: Sometimes we have a videographer who works with us. He'll 367 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: come over and just film me doing stuff, or he 368 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: filmed when we were making the record, he was there 369 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: with cameras. So you know, lately we've been using clips 370 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: of all of us from in the studio that we filmed, 371 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: and then I had them come over and shoot a 372 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: bunch of clips of me just doing the vocals because 373 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: they were a little bit it wasn't as immediate the 374 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: clips from the side away from the mic in the studio, 375 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: so I wanted to cut a bunch of clips that 376 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: just my face doing stuff. I called them up and said, 377 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: I want to make videos out of these, but I 378 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: don't want to just use the studio footage. I want 379 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: to shoot stuff in front of a screen. And so 380 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: we did that and we've been putting those up for 381 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: Spaceman and now for Under the Aurora. 382 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: You mentioned voice notes. So what were you using before 383 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 2: voice notes? Was it just a pad of paper all 384 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 2: that that was a notebook all the time. 385 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: Well, I mean I always use these notebooks. But I 386 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: also had there was an app. It was it was 387 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: just called like recorder, but it was just an app 388 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: that had really good compression on it that you just 389 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: pushed record so I could use it on my computer. 390 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: Back then, it was a really great It was a 391 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: better app than any I've found since then. It just 392 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: sort of did it all for. You had a great compression, 393 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: a GRADEYQ on it. It was boneheaded. You just pushed 394 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: record and play and it did great recordings. I did 395 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: a whole record with that app. At one point just 396 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: called all my buddy Valentine's. It was like Valentine's the 397 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: week before Valentine's Day ten years ago or whenever it was, 398 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: and I just said, I'm gonna record a song. I'm 399 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: gonna learn to cover a day and record a song 400 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: a day for the next week leading up to Valentine's Day. 401 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: And I just did seven songs and ended up putting 402 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: it out and giving it away to all our fans. 403 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 2: Do you have any of your original handwritten lyrics to 404 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 2: any of the old any of the old songs. 405 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've got all these lyric books. Yeah, that 406 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: just live somewhere in your house. Yeah, there's like piles 407 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: of them. I've always written in these books. So I 408 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: have these little ones that they are like spiral binders 409 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: that are about that big. They're like for school, you 410 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: know notebooks. I use them when I was in college, too. 411 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: I don't do it as much anymore. I find the 412 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: notes function in my phone is really great because I 413 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: just lay around. Also, we've all stopped writing, so writing's 414 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: not as like natural as it was. So you know, 415 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: with my phone, I can walk around when I'm working 416 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: on a song, can just humming stuff to myself and 417 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: I just you know, type it into the notes. I 418 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: have a lot of lyrics in my notes, but I 419 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: still use the notebook for stuff too. 420 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 2: We were talking a little bit ago about how gen 421 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 2: Z doesn't know has never written a handwritten letter, and 422 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 2: my answer to that was, well, you know, our parents 423 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 2: never churned butter, and I'm sure their generation ahead of 424 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 2: them was like, I can't believe the kids now. I 425 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 2: don't churn butter. So there are certain skills that you 426 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 2: don't have to have you know as time goes by. 427 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 2: I just feel though if I use a like GPS, 428 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 2: I know how to get nowhere because I GPS everywhere. 429 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 2: And if I write everything down onto my phone, like 430 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 2: I write a bunch of joke ideas and on my 431 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 2: phone constantly, but I don't remember stuff as well if 432 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 2: I'm putting it in digitally, does your mind remember the 433 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 2: same digitally as it as handwritten? 434 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: No? I mean I realized last night. I was I 435 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 1: can't remember what I was out to dinner last night, 436 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: and my girlfriend was giving her phone number to somebody 437 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: like one of our friends. And uh, I suddenly realized, Oh, 438 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: that's not cool. You don't know her number. I mean 439 00:17:59,280 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: I knew. 440 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 2: I don't know why I. 441 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: Know, like seven or eight number, I wouldn't she was 442 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 1: saying it. I was in my head going, oh, and 443 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 1: then the last two numbers I had wrong, I'm like, Wow, 444 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: you don't know your girlfriend's phone number. 445 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 2: I would be in trouble if I were being held hostage. 446 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 2: I know nobody's phone number unless it was from Like 447 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 2: I know my friend Evan's dad's number from when I 448 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 2: was like twelve, Like, I can remember that one, but 449 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 2: I don't know anybody's phone number. 450 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: Now, being held hostage comes with a lot of other 451 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: problems anyways, But first I need to call somebody. They're like, 452 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 1: they're like, we demand ransom, and I'm like, I don't 453 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 1: know how to get ahold of anybody. And that's kind 454 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: of the cops. Give you one call. I don't know 455 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: about hostages. Sometimes they do, but what if they just 456 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: don't like you. 457 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 2: Then they will not want to ransom and you're not hostage, 458 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 2: you're just dead. Yeah, then you're just dead. 459 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's there's a lot of problems of the hostage 460 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: situation above and be on the phones. But I get 461 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: your point. 462 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 2: Did you watch Why Lotus last night? 463 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: But I did? I did? 464 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 2: You did? 465 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: No? 466 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 2: Okay, No, I'm not done yet. Okay. 467 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: Then I was a little disappointed. 468 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 2: But we're not giving any answers, not saying anything, but 469 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 2: a lot of people. So I watched the whole thing, right, 470 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 2: My wife had already watched all of it, and I 471 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 2: just wanted to watch the finale with her. So I 472 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 2: did like seven episodes this past weekend just to totally 473 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 2: catch up. And I was told by a lot of 474 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 2: people season three was pretty slow. I felt Season three 475 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 2: the people in it, and again no spoilers, not to 476 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 2: be as gross as seasons one and two, just generally, 477 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 2: you know. 478 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: It's the weird thing. Season one had like six episodes 479 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: and season two had seven. Season three had eight, and 480 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: I thought six would have been great for all of them. 481 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: They'd just be he's a really, really, really good writer, 482 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: and somehow expanding it just kind of I don't want to. 483 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: It's such a good show. I had never watched it, 484 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: and then this year I never My girlfriend talked me 485 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 1: into watching it, and we watched the first season like 486 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: binged it, second season binged it. Third season got through 487 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: two episodes and I was like what, and she said, oh, no, 488 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: that's that's where we're up to right now. Why are 489 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: we watching it? You know? I don't. I like to 490 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: binge everything, you know, and she so, then I've been 491 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: doing it every week. I'm not sure whether it's distorting 492 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: how it feels to me because I have to wait 493 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 1: for it. It felt really padded. 494 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 2: I did all binge all three seasons, and I finally 495 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 2: finished right before the finale. So my feeling was my yeah, 496 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 2: season three people didn't feels gross, felt pretty good about it. 497 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 2: That's cool. But there was I never felt the need 498 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 2: to get back to it, but I did enjoy it 499 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 2: while it was on. It was one of those weird, 500 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 2: slow burned shows for me. 501 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: I love the other seasons. I just like, I kind 502 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: of felt like also, I felt like there's a lot 503 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: of padding this season. But I was also thinking, well, 504 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: I bet the ending it will be great, you know there, 505 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: because we're gonna get there finally. Yeah. 506 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 2: We don't worrybody, We're not gonna saying about it. We're 507 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 2: not gonna say it. No, no, no spoiling there. What 508 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 2: else do you guys watch? 509 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 4: Right? 510 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: Like? Did you watch Severance? Watch the first season and 511 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 1: I thought that was incredible. 512 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 2: One of my favorite seasons ever of any show. 513 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: And we're gonna I think we're gonna watch the second 514 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: season after this. We just watched is it Black Doves? 515 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: That Kieran also that was great, freaking awesome. 516 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 2: I'd be a Black Dove. I'd be good at that. 517 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: Yeah you would, Yeah, I mean, as long as you're 518 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: not held hostage. Yeah, well, I just didn't know a 519 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 1: phone number if I'm held hostage. How does writing songs 520 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: now compare to writing songs twenty years ago? You know, 521 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: we talked about the difference in digitally or writing it 522 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: with a hand, But like, do you feel the need 523 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: and do you schedule writing now or can you only 524 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: just go when you feel like it. I just write 525 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: when I feel I don't write a lot. As soon 526 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: as I started touring and really being in this band, 527 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: I stopped writing all the time. I wrote every day 528 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: for you know, ten years before that when I started 529 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: writing songs. But then I can't really write on tour 530 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: because I don't play guitar. I play piano and poorly 531 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 1: at that, And then I so I wouldn't write for 532 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: like a year and a half because we'd be on tour. 533 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: So I tend to Ever since then, I've tended to 534 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: just kind of not write for a year or two 535 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: and then write with ten songs whatever the record is, 536 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: and sometimes there's an extra song or two, but not many. 537 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: I want to write a lot of extras. So it 538 00:21:55,400 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 1: was different this time because I I wrote it. I 539 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: just think the I've been sort of changing some of 540 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: the ways I write and sort of my the music 541 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: I was writing was a little more ambitious than my 542 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: ability to play it, and so I couldn't really tell 543 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: how the songs were I finally I sat on them 544 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: for a couple of years because I hadn't have a 545 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: lot of confidence in them. And then I called the 546 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: guys up and said, I wrote, We'd love for me 547 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: to z from this the first song on the record, 548 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: and I knew I loved it, and I thought, I 549 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 1: got to figure out what I'm doing with the rest 550 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: of the songs. And I called, you know Immer and 551 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 1: a couple of other guys are bass player and drummer, 552 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: and said, just I need everybody to come to my 553 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: house for a week. I just need to play this 554 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: stuff with you. I need to hear how it is 555 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: with the band and then I'll know. And when as 556 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: soon as we started playing it, I was like, oh wow, 557 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: this is I love this stuff, but this is the 558 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: first time. A lot of it was in my head, 559 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: like I couldn't really play it, but I knew it, 560 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: I knew how it was supposed to go. Had the chords, 561 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: I just my ability to play piano. I couldn't do 562 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: these songs. And so I was carrying around in my 563 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: head until I heard them play it. I describe what 564 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: I wanted and it was great and I was really excited. 565 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: But that that hadn't really happened. 566 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 2: Before the with Love from A to Z whenever, because 567 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 2: I've listened whenever the first half came out, it was 568 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 2: all one track. Loved that, thought it was super cool, 569 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 2: and then I guess then it split up into songs later. 570 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 2: I will shout out the name Bobby uh two references 571 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 2: on this record. 572 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it was very inspired by you know, 573 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 1: the last time we were hanging out. 574 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 2: Thank you very much, well Bobby and the Right Kings 575 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 2: I think was already exist existent when we hung out 576 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 2: last time, but this one, but I knew we were 577 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 2: gonna hang out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I knew it was 578 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,719 Speaker 2: gonna happen. Spaceman of Tulsa, I get a shout out 579 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 2: as well, you're back, Yes, I'm back baby. 580 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 581 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 2: So when you do new records, how how many of 582 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 2: these songs do you put in a set list tonight? 583 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 2: You have so many songs to kind of jump between. 584 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean the sweet I really only 585 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: liked playing the suite altogether. The guys that tried to 586 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: get me to like just play single songs, but I 587 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: really like it all is one, So that's a chunk. 588 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: If you're going to play that. I mean, that's twenty 589 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: minutes of the show right there. 590 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. 591 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: I guess it depends on the night We'll start doing 592 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: it and you stick them in. 593 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. 594 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: It's weird, you know, like we're you want to play 595 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: your whole new record. But sometimes there was a time 596 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: we could do that when everyone was buying all the 597 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: records and everybody knew all the songs. So maybe if 598 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: Spaceman and Tulsa blows up to the roof or under 599 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: the Aurora does, or one of them does, we can 600 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: just play the whole record for people. 601 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 2: What's the song that you hear out randomly the most 602 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 2: of ours? 603 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I suppose it's probably mister Jones. I hear long 604 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: December a lot. Especially. It's become kind of a Christmas standard, 605 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: Like every like holiday season, it seems like everybody's covering 606 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: it and it shows up like on TikTok and on Instagram, 607 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: you know, people playing it. This year m J. Linderman 608 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: was doing a version right around Christmas and Gracy Abrams 609 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: sanging it. I saw that benefit for the fires. 610 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 2: It was awesome. What do you think about that? 611 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: That was cool? Yeah, I mean I always think it's cool. 612 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think our songs are kind of 613 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: weird sometimes that you know, my phrasing's a little difficult. 614 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I don't hear a lot of 615 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: people covering us except in bars sometimes, you know, where 616 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 1: you don't necessarily want to hear it as much. But 617 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: have you been at a Barnhart someone covering it? Yeah? 618 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: And sometimes it's really good that I heard a version 619 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: of around here a while ago that was like, wow, 620 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: that that was really good, actually suppressed. 621 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 2: Do you tell them it's you? 622 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 4: Oh? 623 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: No, No, Well I used to have it used to 624 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 1: be obvious it was me before I shaved off the dreads, 625 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: like it was, there was no question it was me. 626 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 3: Then. 627 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: I think I'm a little more anonymous now I think 628 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: I'm a lot more anonymous now. 629 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 2: Was that a big decision to cut off the dreads? 630 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: Not really. I felt it wasn't a big decision to me. 631 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: I just felt like I was excited. I mean, it 632 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: wasn't really that. I just kind of did it on 633 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: a whim, you know, like, uh, But I think it 634 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: was a big decision for a lot of other people somehow. 635 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: And I get asked about it a lot. 636 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 2: One of my neighbors lives a few houses down is 637 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 2: t Bow and Burnett. Oh really yeah, and he was 638 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 2: that he was over a few weeks ago. We were 639 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 2: talking about August and everything after and the Wallflowers. What 640 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 2: was working with him like as a producer, that's a 641 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 2: long time ago. 642 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 1: I mean it was cool. He's really good. He's got 643 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of producers that just have 644 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: like a sound like they've got a studio trick that 645 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 1: they do and that's what they their records sound like. 646 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 1: T Bone's not really quantifiable like that. He he helps 647 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 1: you figure out who you are and who you want 648 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 1: to be on a record. I think he's really It's 649 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: why he's worked with a lot of bands on their 650 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: first records. It made a lot of really good first 651 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: records with bands because I think he really helps you 652 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,239 Speaker 1: define yourself. He's got a thing that, you know, an 653 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: understanding of music that not everybody has. He's really really 654 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: good at that. 655 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 2: He brought the coolest friend over, which is Ringo Star. 656 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 2: They came over together. That's pretty that's a strong friend 657 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 2: or guest. Yeah, that's that's a strong friend who was 658 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 2: responsible for putting you as background vocals of sixth Avenue Heartache. 659 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: Well, you know, uh, the Wallflowers had made their first 660 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: album on Virgin and it's a really good record, but 661 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: it didn't really make much of an impression. It's it's 662 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: it's not. It didn't really sum up who they were. 663 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 1: And Jake and I were friends. I was bartending at 664 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: the Viper Room and he was there a lot, and 665 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: we would talk about, you know, what we were doing. 666 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: And he asked me at one point, I think if 667 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: I had any advice about that, and I said, well, 668 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: you know, t Bone is really good. What I just 669 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 1: told you is like helping you define yourself. And I 670 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: felt like that's kind of what that record needed. That 671 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 1: he's a real unique guy and a unique songwriter and singer, 672 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: and that didn't get brought out as much on that 673 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 1: first record, and so I suggested T Bone. And you 674 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: know a few months later, I was at home. I 675 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: lived in Laurel Canyon then, and I got a phone 676 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: call from either T Bone or Andy Slater, who is 677 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: Jake's manager, and they're like, we have we're working on 678 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: this song and it's just not singing yet. You know, 679 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: do you want to come down and singing? I was like, 680 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: which song is SI six ave new Hardeck. I said, 681 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: I don't really know that one, because I knew a 682 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: lot of the Jake songs that he was working on. 683 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: And he said, well, will you just come down the hill? 684 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: And so I went down and had a beer and 685 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: listened to it, and then had a beer and sang 686 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: it a couple of times and left. I mean it 687 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: just felt great. I mean it was like that. They 688 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 1: just felt like we figured out eas exactly. That was 689 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: just what that song needed. It was a great song. 690 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: It just needed something to pick up the chorus, and 691 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: it just felt great right away. I think I only 692 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 1: sang it once or twice, and then I went back 693 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 1: home and it turned out great. How long until you 694 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: actually hear it? I think they sent me a copy, 695 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: like the next day I got it. But I heard 696 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: it right then and we went into the controller matter 697 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 1: I sang it. It sounded great. I mean, that's like 698 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: he's got Mike Campbell from the Heartbreakers playing the guitars 699 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: on that song. It's a really good band. I think 700 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: Ben montangees on that one too, from the Heartbreakers. I 701 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: don't know about that, but yeah, it just felt great. 702 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 1: I knew it was great right away. It just felt 703 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: really like sometimes you just figure out the right thing 704 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: to sing and makes it makes it work. 705 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 2: SNL just did their fifty years You Guys performance on 706 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 2: SNL one of them. I'm not sure how any you did. 707 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 2: I just popped up on my TikTok the other day. 708 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 2: This guy named Huggy posts all the music performances on TikTok. 709 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 2: What do you remember from SNL. 710 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: It was a rough week. It had a really hard 711 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: time we had. We had said no for a long 712 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: time when they asked us because we were just sort 713 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: of like we wanted to play around here at Mister Jones. 714 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: We wanted to play round Here first. We didn't want 715 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: to edit the songs we had. Both Lettermen and SNL 716 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: were asking us to be on and we just were 717 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: really determined to do it the right way. It was 718 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: going to be our first appearance ever on television. 719 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 2: They wanted to edit it for time. 720 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, they wanted both have medited. They wanted Mister Jones first. 721 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: I really wanted to play round Here first. I didn't 722 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: want to edit the songs, and so we kind of 723 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: negotiated with both shows for the longest time until SNL agreed, Okay, 724 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: yeah you can. You can play them the way you 725 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: want to and you can play around here first. And 726 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: then we got there that week and they were like, oh, 727 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: by the way, we changed our mind and I was 728 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: like no, and they said, yeah, I know, we're going 729 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: to have to do it this way, and I said, no, 730 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: we're doing it this way. It's okay, we'll leave, but 731 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: we're not doing that. And it was just a difficult week, 732 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: fighting with them all week, and then it was great. 733 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: We played great. It made our career. I'll say that 734 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: it made our career because we weren't even in the 735 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: top two hundred, and that record jumped forty spots a 736 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: week for five weeks after we played Saturday Night Live 737 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: and until we were at number two for the next 738 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: two years. I mean it made our career. 739 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 2: What'd you play first? 740 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: Round Here? Yeah, I mean it was great. It was 741 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: It was perfect because like mister Jones is a great song, 742 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: it really is. But there's a lot of songs like 743 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: mister Jones that are just catchy, you know, kind of 744 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: rock tunes. But round Here is unique, you know, and 745 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: I think it just like this is who we are. 746 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: It's it's not what you've been hearing before, and it 747 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: completely made our career. We were not even in the 748 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: top two hundred before we played SNL and you know, 749 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: a month later we were at number ten and then 750 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: number two or something like that, and you know, but 751 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: it was a difficult week. I went there once. My 752 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: friend was Ian McKellen's agent, and when like all the 753 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: Lord of the Ring movies are coming out, he hosted 754 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: and there was this one producer who kept getting sent 755 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,719 Speaker 1: to do all the talking to us, you know, and 756 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: I was in the green room because they wanted me 757 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: to come. I had never been back since then, so 758 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: it is like eight years later, and I saw this 759 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: guy walk by in the hallway and then he came 760 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: back and he's like, whoa, I never thought i'd see 761 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: you again. That's going on. And I was like, uh, nothing, 762 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: just my friend represents Ian and he's like, oh cool, well, 763 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: you know, no hard feelings. I was like, no, that's fine, man, 764 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: all right, do you want to get high? I was like, no, 765 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: that's cool, I'm right, okay, cool, see you later. 766 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 4: It was weird. 767 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: I was like the he'd look on his face and 768 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: he's like, wow, I never thought i'd see you again. 769 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 2: That's funny. Yeah, the record. So it's the completion of 770 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty one right, So that's what it seems 771 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 2: like to me. So it's the rest of that. This 772 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 2: is all one album. So why was this a whole 773 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 2: body of work that you, you know, had been working on 774 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 2: and recording and now you're done with it. Or to 775 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 2: just keep going after twenty twenty one and keep building 776 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 2: on that. No, I just wrote the sweet It was 777 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 2: really like a standalone thing. And then we were interrupted 778 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 2: by the pandemic anyways, and then when the pandemic was over, 779 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 2: I went back to my friends. He's got a farm 780 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 2: in the west of. 781 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: England, which is where I wrote the whole suite, and 782 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: I worked and I wrote a lot of this stuff, 783 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: and on the way home, I stopped in London and 784 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: sing on my friend's record. They've got this band, Gang 785 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: of Youths, Australian band. They live in London now. And 786 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: when I got home from that a little while later, 787 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: they sent me the record and it was so good. 788 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: It's called Angel in Real Time. And I just had 789 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: this thought like, Wow, these songs aren't as good as 790 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: their songs. I thought this stuff was really great, but 791 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: I'm seeing it in perspective compared to their stuff. You know, 792 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: I need it needs some work. And I actually went 793 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: back to the drawing board and I rewrote the chorus 794 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: for under the Aurora, like I rewrote a bunch of 795 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,239 Speaker 1: the stuff, and I thought it was really good at 796 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: that point. But that's kind of why I didn't have 797 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: a lot of confidence in it, and I sort of 798 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: sat on it for two years before I wrote with 799 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: Love from A to Z and then called the guys, 800 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,959 Speaker 1: like I told you, Uh, but it was a new 801 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: experience I've never had before. I've never kind of like 802 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: finished things and thought, oh wait, they're not that they're 803 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: not good enough. But that's kind of why it took 804 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: a little longer. But the originally I was just writing 805 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: the suite, but then I wanted to write this stuff 806 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: to go along with it. 807 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 2: You mentioned you had a Taylor Swifts tour. What did 808 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 2: you see there that was inspiring? 809 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 4: Wow? 810 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: It was just really well thought out, you know. I mean, 811 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: I write songs and sing, and there's a lot that 812 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: goes into a concert that has to do with like 813 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: set design. We don't do a ton of that. If 814 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: you want to do visuals and videos, and stuff. There's 815 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: a lot of thought that has to go into what's 816 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: the right visual to put behind your song? And I 817 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: know how complex that thought process can be. And we 818 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: don't do a lot of video. We're generally set moods 819 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: with lights. But the thought that had gone into the 820 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: visual presentations at that tour, like how it was really moving. 821 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: It was really really good. And this combination of the sets, 822 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 1: the incredible video presentation, the movement on stage, the whole thing. 823 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: There's just a lot of complex creative thought that goes 824 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: into making a show like that. You know, it's it's 825 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,720 Speaker 1: practically like making an entire movie, you know, and also 826 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: it's three plus hours long. It's a lot you know that. 827 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: I was really impressed with the amount of creative people 828 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 1: from different disciplines that had come together and made that 829 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: really impressive show that wasn't just like laserium, you know, 830 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 1: like lasers like you know you see it. It was 831 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: like moving. Each song was really thought out. All the 832 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: things that went into each song were really thought out, 833 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: and they really worked. I was just very impressed by it. 834 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: It's not the kind of show we put on, but 835 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: I thought it was brilliant, you know. 836 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,439 Speaker 2: One of the old Man. Things that I say kids 837 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 2: miss out on now are the secret tracks. And there's 838 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 2: a couple of different secret tracks that I think of 839 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 2: with you guys, And one was the maybe it was 840 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 2: Hard Candy you hold down the fast forward and you 841 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 2: guys did the Joni Mitchell song before Vanessa Carlton came on? 842 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 2: Was that Hard Candy? Get the end of Hard Candy? 843 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 1: Or yeah? 844 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah. 845 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: We had to rush out the initial pressings of that record, 846 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 1: so we didn't have Vanessa's parts on there yet. 847 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 2: I think you had to like hold down the fast 848 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 2: forward but just barely to get to it or let it. 849 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 2: You fall asleep with it on and then all of 850 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 2: a sudden the song startles you. But even before that, when. 851 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: It was the what I Want Wow in the Desert Life. 852 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, and at the end of that that that that 853 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 2: art is no longer because now if there's a track 854 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,399 Speaker 2: that's seventeen minutes long, you just see that and you're like, well, 855 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 2: why would you guys pick those songs to do hidden 856 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 2: and who was the one that suggested to do it 857 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:43,919 Speaker 2: hidden track? 858 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: Well, sometimes it's just something I really like that doesn't 859 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: work in the flow of the record, like it just 860 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: didn't feel like part of the record. Like Kid Things 861 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: on a Desert Life just didn't feel like part of 862 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: the record. But I really loved it, and thematically it 863 00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 1: was part of the record, but it was done really low, 864 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: and it just it didn't fit in the I tried 865 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: to fit in the flow, and I couldn't sequence it. 866 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I know nobody listens to records anymore, but 867 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 1: I really like to make records and I want you 868 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: to be able to sit down and listen to it 869 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: all the way through, even if nobody's gonna do it. 870 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,959 Speaker 2: That's what I really like. I like making that work. 871 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: And sometimes I just couldn't get a song to fit, 872 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 1: which meant I left a couple of songs I love 873 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: off records, and I hit a couple just because that 874 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 1: seemed kind of fun. It was like a nice Easter 875 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: egg for fans. That was the thing with the with 876 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: the Kid Things, it just didn't it fits thematically, but 877 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:39,280 Speaker 1: it didn't It didn't flow in the record. But uh, 878 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,359 Speaker 1: big yell A Taxi was different because we just spent 879 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 1: this one weekend doing all these covers for B sides. 880 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 1: When we were while we were mixing the record, we 881 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: were like in another little room just cutting cover songs, 882 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 1: and uh, that just turned it. We had this kind 883 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: of acoustic hip hop version of Big Yellow Taxi that 884 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 1: we play in concert, but we wanted to try doing 885 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,320 Speaker 1: a remix with it. We like went out to Pharrell 886 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: back then it was just starting in the Neptunes, then 887 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: went back to him, Jimmy jam and Terry Lewis from 888 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 1: the time, but we weren't able to sort of get 889 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 1: any of it done in time. And Ron Fair came 890 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 1: and said, Hey, I know you've been doing this with 891 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,760 Speaker 1: all these other guys, but I actually did a version 892 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: and I think it works really well. And he sent 893 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: it to me and I was like, oh, that does work. 894 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 1: That's really cool. Thanks, And then he wanted to have 895 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: someone sing on it. And right before we were mixing 896 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 1: Hard Candy, he was in there mixing a record with 897 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 1: this with Vanessa Carlton, her first record, you know. And 898 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 1: I had heard a bunch of it because he was 899 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 1: in there, you know, and Jack jose Pleegu had played 900 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: me some of her songs, thought that they were really good, 901 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 1: and I knew that I had to leave for tour 902 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: before we were going to be able to finish it, 903 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 1: and I thought it might be intimidating for someone to 904 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: come in and sing on one of our tracks, but 905 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: he could get a lot out of a woman he 906 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: had just worked with. Well, she would be comfortable enough 907 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 1: with him to actually like improv on our track, and 908 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: she did. Yeah, it worked out great. It's funny because 909 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 1: she was this total unknown singer and then by the 910 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 1: time it came out, she was very popular. 911 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 2: The complete Sweet comes up May ninth. Man, you guys 912 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 2: are doing a lot of shows too. Do you do 913 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,359 Speaker 2: the touring where you just go away and don't come 914 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 2: back for a couple of months. 915 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 1: Yeah? Mostly, Yeah, we the weekend, this sort of a 916 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: Nashville thing, I know. 917 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Friday, Saturday, maybe maybe Thursday, maybe Sunday. But 918 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:24,800 Speaker 2: back home. Yeah, that sounds very convenient. Yeah it is. Yeah, 919 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 2: so you guys just go because you guys are going 920 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 2: like Europe too, the whole thing. 921 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're doing the whole summer is gone. We're out 922 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: on the tour in America. You know, we passed through 923 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: home wherever your home is, you usually pass through it, 924 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 1: and then we'll go to Europe in the fall. 925 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,879 Speaker 2: That's pretty cool. A lot of day it's from June 926 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 2: and we'll put them up in the notes here on 927 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 2: the podcast. But from June, yeah, all the way up 928 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 2: until November. Yeah, yeah, until it gets cold. 929 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 930 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 2: Do you do cold weather shows or most of your 931 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 2: show's amphitheaters? 932 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,919 Speaker 1: Well, not during the summer, but other times a year. 933 00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,280 Speaker 2: Do you ever play? You ever play a long December? 934 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 2: And December in the crowd goes ah, like just because 935 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 2: you yelled December, it's like yelling a city when you're 936 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 2: in it. 937 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:03,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. 938 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, like he said, our month, he said our month. 939 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,399 Speaker 1: This is crazy. I should write one for each month 940 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,919 Speaker 1: because then I would have hits any time of the year. 941 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be good. Uh, we're gonna play some 942 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:15,280 Speaker 2: some music here in just a second. 943 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 1: Oh. 944 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 2: By the way, I should tell you not that it matters. 945 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 2: I looked it matters me. It doesn't matter. But this 946 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,360 Speaker 2: was the first book ever wrote, and it was bestseller 947 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 2: for a little bit. It's pretty cool. I'm pretty proud 948 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 2: of it. But I thank you guys in the back 949 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 2: of the book. Really I did, Can I have a copy? 950 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 2: Well you don't want? No, No, it's not sure you 951 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 2: can have a copy. But it wasn't for that. I 952 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 2: just I it was laying here by my foot, and 953 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 2: I was like, you know, because you guys are you 954 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,839 Speaker 2: guys are my favorite band of all time, And so 955 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 2: I said, I wonder if I thanked them in the 956 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 2: credits like the book, and I did. You're on the 957 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:45,840 Speaker 2: back page when I was like, hey, I want to 958 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 2: think kind of cross. 959 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you came to that show in Nashville a 960 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 1: few years ago and they told me you were there, 961 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 1: but then you didn't come backstage. 962 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I don't want to be that guy like 963 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 2: I just want to and honestly, and I think you'll 964 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 2: understand this, I didn't want to not like you because 965 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:03,439 Speaker 2: I love I love my relationship with your music, and 966 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 2: I didn't want to not like you. And so I 967 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,439 Speaker 2: was like, you know what, I'm good because the place 968 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,879 Speaker 2: I'm in now with Count of Crows, it couldn't be better. 969 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: I hear you, I hear you. If you come backstage 970 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: at some point, I promise not to be well. 971 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 2: Now I like you, though now I'm feel good about it. 972 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 2: But that was really the reason. They were like, you 973 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 2: want to go meet at him and I was like, no, 974 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 2: I just enjoyed the show. I was like, I do 975 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 2: not because right now I love Adam. He might be 976 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 2: well and not even that, but like I intured doing 977 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 2: stand up, and some days you just don't feel good. 978 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:30,839 Speaker 2: Some day that's true, and so I just didn't want 979 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,359 Speaker 2: it to be there. So next time I probably still won't. 980 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 2: But right NOW'M gonna say, well, can I have. 981 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 1: A book or else? 982 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 2: Ye? Now, I'll give you a book. 983 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,359 Speaker 1: I want a book. It's really cool. 984 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,840 Speaker 2: They were thanking in the back of the book. 985 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 6: I how did you like? 986 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 2: I said, I just thanked him for the music for 987 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 2: like all the you know, I mean. 988 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 6: You read it, read it? 989 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 2: Okay, what if it's like Adam, I'm in love with you. 990 00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 2: Also a big sad hug of the County Crows for 991 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 2: making lots of great music that makes me sad by 992 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 2: feeling happy, by feeling sad. 993 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 1: Actually that's pretty great. Actually yeah, it's nice. 994 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean that's how I felt. So I 995 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 2: got a little choked out. That was actually pretty good. 996 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 6: Well, thank you well, and I'll clarify some importance behind that. 997 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 6: Some of Bobby's upbringing, you can have a lot of 998 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 6: space to feel, so I think your music gave him 999 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 6: that space to feel sad. 1000 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 1: Hug all around. I'm not making funny you. That's actually 1001 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 1: really sweet. I'm kind of touched by that. 1002 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 2: But any hug at all was happy for me. 1003 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 1: And now we're going too far. 1004 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:44,879 Speaker 2: That's right, Okay, okay, welcome back everybody. We have Miles here. 1005 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 2: Who I met Miles in Las Vegas. Miles, everybody, prepare yourself. 1006 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 2: He has a British accent. Miles. How's it going? 1007 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 9: I'm good? 1008 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:52,479 Speaker 1: How are you good? 1009 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:52,799 Speaker 3: So? 1010 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 2: But he lives in Canada, but you grew up where. 1011 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 9: So it's complicated. I was born in Scotland. 1012 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 2: Oh, it's not British, my bad. 1013 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,760 Speaker 9: No, it is. Scotland's in the UK, so any country 1014 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,720 Speaker 9: in the UK's is considered British. 1015 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,319 Speaker 2: Oh by what about Scottish. 1016 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 9: Yeah, that's like you can be English from England. Yes, 1017 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 9: England is also in the UK, so that's still British. Okay, 1018 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 9: you can be sco Scottish from Scotland. Scotland is also 1019 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 9: in the UK. 1020 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,240 Speaker 2: It could be Welsh, so it'd be like an American accent, 1021 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:21,760 Speaker 2: but an American Southern accent. 1022 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 9: Sure, okay, yeah, but my accent's all messed up because 1023 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,360 Speaker 9: I was born in Scotland, grew up in England. I 1024 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 9: moved over to the Middle East. I was in Dubai 1025 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 9: for six years when I was eighteen. 1026 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 2: So at eighteen years old, you moved to Dubai. 1027 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 9: Yeah for what? Radio? 1028 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 2: So you decided at eighteen that you wanted to pursue 1029 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,320 Speaker 2: a career and why Dubai? Was that the first job? 1030 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:43,880 Speaker 2: And how'd you find a job in Dubai? 1031 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 9: It was crazy? So I'm a radio nepo baby. My 1032 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 9: dad is in radio where in Scotland? So he's been 1033 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 9: a morning show host for like forty years wow, and 1034 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,280 Speaker 9: now he's in management. So for years, like out of school, 1035 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 9: when I was internal and stuff, I was always Robin's kid. 1036 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 9: Oh you're Robinson, you know, and I kind of wanted 1037 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 9: to move away and become my own man. 1038 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,360 Speaker 2: Gets no further than going to the Middle East. Yeah, 1039 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 2: So how did you find a job there? And what? 1040 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:12,839 Speaker 2: I don't know. I think I'd be scared to go. 1041 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 9: So basically, when my dad was doing a morning show, 1042 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 9: I was telling this to Amy off the air. He 1043 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 9: was doing a contest with a new airline and they 1044 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 9: offered him some flights to like New York, I think Brussels, 1045 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 9: like Belgium and Dubai and it was right before nine 1046 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,240 Speaker 9: to eleven, so him and my mum originally picked New York. 1047 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 9: Then nine to eleven happened. He was like, well, we're 1048 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 9: not going to go there anymore. Let's try Dubai. So 1049 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,319 Speaker 9: they went to Dubai, went for a week, had an 1050 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 9: amazing time. When they came back, the sales rep was like, 1051 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 9: how was it. Did you enjoy the campaign, the flights 1052 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 9: and everything, and they were like, yeah, it was great. 1053 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 9: But they were like dredging for oil off the coast 1054 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 9: of the hotel in the beach, and they were like, 1055 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 9: that's not dredging for oil. They're building a man made 1056 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 9: island called the Palm. It's like a palm tree with 1057 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 9: like it's insane. It looks like something up like the 1058 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,799 Speaker 9: Sims or something. It's crazy. My mom and dad bought 1059 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 9: a place in Dubai off plan when they were building 1060 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,800 Speaker 9: that man made island. So then every single school vacation 1061 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:12,840 Speaker 9: we would go there every single time, like Easter, Summer, Christmas. 1062 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 2: Even how far away is that from where you were? 1063 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:15,240 Speaker 9: Seven hours? 1064 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,799 Speaker 2: Oh not even that bad. That's closer than if we 1065 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 2: went to Hawaii. 1066 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, seven hours, four hour time difference. And basically when 1067 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 9: this one time, this easter vacation we were there. I 1068 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 9: think it was twenty eleven, maybe even early twenty ten, 1069 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 9: there was this volcano in Iceland that erupted. This is 1070 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 9: the most far fair story ever, by the way, but 1071 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 9: there was a volcanic ash cloud that shut down the 1072 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 9: entire European airspace. So my dad was stuck there for 1073 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 9: over two weeks. He was off his morning show and 1074 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:42,839 Speaker 9: everyone was talking about it. It was like a really big, 1075 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 9: big story. So he wanted to find a studio in 1076 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,800 Speaker 9: Dubai to get on the air and broadcast to Scotland 1077 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 9: and do his morning show. So I went in with him, 1078 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 9: kind of, you know, just shadowing him, I guess, and 1079 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 9: they were like, what do you do? And I was 1080 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,279 Speaker 9: like seventeen at the time. I was like, I'm still 1081 00:44:58,280 --> 00:44:59,800 Speaker 9: in school, but I really want to get into radio. 1082 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 9: And they said, would you consider coming out and doing 1083 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,839 Speaker 9: like a summer internship? And I was like absolutely. 1084 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 2: And at this point you already felt comfortable in Dubai 1085 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 2: because you had been so many times exactly. 1086 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 9: Yeah, So I did kind of know my way around, 1087 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 9: and I knew to be respectful and you know how 1088 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 9: the lulls work and stuff. Because it is kind of 1089 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,279 Speaker 9: it's very conservative, like compared to what it used to 1090 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 9: be for the Middle East, but it's definitely different. You know, 1091 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 9: you can't talk about alcohol, you can't talk about gambling 1092 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:26,760 Speaker 9: and all those kind of things. 1093 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 2: As in on the air or in general both kind of. 1094 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 9: Well yeah, mostly on the air, I mean. 1095 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. So you're like, okay, cool. And so when 1096 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 2: you turn eighteen, they offer you a job. 1097 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 9: Yeah, morning show producer like on air slash morning show producer. 1098 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 2: And what did your dad say about you moving to 1099 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 2: Dubai after having been there a bunch times. It's different 1100 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,239 Speaker 2: being on vacation or holiday as you guys call it. 1101 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 2: What do you say about moving there? 1102 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 9: He thought it was cool because they still had their 1103 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 9: place there, so they lived. Yeah, until they kicked me 1104 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 9: out and they were like, okay, we want it back 1105 00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 9: now this is our holiday spot, you know. 1106 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 2: So how long were you in Dubai. 1107 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 9: I was there for like five six years? 1108 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,319 Speaker 2: And what was your ascent? Like in radio? There were 1109 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 2: you producer the whole time? And then you left Dubai 1110 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 2: to go get a different job or did you move 1111 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 2: into a different role to the station. 1112 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 9: I moved into a different role I actually moved from 1113 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 9: one station to another to like the biggest station out there, 1114 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,880 Speaker 9: which is Virgin Radio. So I was there. There's a 1115 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,359 Speaker 9: guy that does the morning show host. He's a good 1116 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 9: friend of mine. He's called Chris Fade. He's like a 1117 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 9: really big Australian radio personality in Dubai. He's like the 1118 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,360 Speaker 9: Ryan Seacrest of the Middle East, but he's Australian. Yeah, 1119 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 9: and they accept that he's Australian Lebanese, which really works 1120 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,319 Speaker 9: because he's got like the kind of western side of 1121 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,239 Speaker 9: it of his heritage, and then he's also got like 1122 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,239 Speaker 9: the Middle Eastern side, so he really just talks to 1123 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 9: a lot of a lot of the demographic there. 1124 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 2: So you worked for him. 1125 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 9: I worked with him. He was the assistant program director 1126 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 9: at the time, and then I was doing the night show. 1127 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 2: Okay, so you had your own show then, yeah, and 1128 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,360 Speaker 2: so you're there and then when do you leave? And 1129 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:50,920 Speaker 2: why do you leave? 1130 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,479 Speaker 9: I got fired for doing what I just really didn't 1131 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,800 Speaker 9: get on with the program director. Personality company, yeah, personality conflict. 1132 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you're like, what now, what. 1133 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 1: Do I do? 1134 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,440 Speaker 9: I moved back to the UK. I didn't want to go. 1135 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,920 Speaker 9: I didn't want to stay there. I went through a 1136 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,839 Speaker 9: breakup as well. I kind of had a little bit 1137 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 9: to do with it. 1138 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 2: So I want to just sidetracked for a second. Dude 1139 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,759 Speaker 2: to me, I've never been to Dubai. Just from what 1140 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 2: I see about it on the news, it doesn't feel 1141 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 2: like it'd be super safe. 1142 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 9: Is it so safe? 1143 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 2: More safe than even here? 1144 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 9: Define safe? Are you talking about? 1145 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 2: Like, I don't know. I don't want to get scooped 1146 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,839 Speaker 2: up and then thrown into a Dubai penitentiary and chop 1147 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,920 Speaker 2: my head off because because I showed my knee in 1148 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 2: public or something. 1149 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 9: Have you ever been arrested here? No, So you'll never 1150 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 9: get arrested there. Just don't do anything you wouldn't do 1151 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 9: in your normal daily life. 1152 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:41,719 Speaker 2: And but I want to you want to go do 1153 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 2: buy and go crazy anyway? 1154 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 7: So I could, So I could. 1155 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:45,920 Speaker 5: Urinate in an alley behind a building there. 1156 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:47,759 Speaker 6: I mean, you can't do that here. 1157 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:49,440 Speaker 7: But I've never been arrested for it. 1158 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 9: But like, don't get caught basically, so just don't be 1159 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:53,840 Speaker 9: so are there bars? 1160 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? Loads? 1161 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,239 Speaker 9: Yeah, It's like that was my like university, that was 1162 00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,279 Speaker 9: my college being in Dubai because I was a team, 1163 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,640 Speaker 9: right so that was like my going out partying and 1164 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 9: having fun. I was also DJing after the show as 1165 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,200 Speaker 9: well in clubs and stuff, and I had the best time. 1166 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 9: It was crazy. I used to have friends that come 1167 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 9: over and they'd be like, you live like this, this 1168 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 9: is crazy. I'd be like, no, I'm only doing this 1169 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 9: because you're here. 1170 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,080 Speaker 2: So do you feel like the representation of it because 1171 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:17,800 Speaker 2: it's in the Middle East is a bit unfair? 1172 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:19,759 Speaker 9: One hundred percent? I think when I say yeah, Like 1173 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,799 Speaker 9: I started off by saying I moved to the Middle East, 1174 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,400 Speaker 9: what I should have said was I moved to Dubai 1175 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 9: because I think when people hear the Middle East, especially 1176 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:27,799 Speaker 9: in North America, they're like, whoa. 1177 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 2: Yeah I do. Even when you go Dubai, I'm like, 1178 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,319 Speaker 2: whoa Middle East. But ye, you have to be really 1179 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,399 Speaker 2: rich to live there because I see all the really 1180 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:35,120 Speaker 2: expensive things. 1181 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:36,280 Speaker 9: Hey, it's tax free. 1182 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,160 Speaker 2: What do you mean no tax? Like no income tax? Yeah, 1183 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 2: no sales tax. Uh. 1184 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,680 Speaker 9: They introduced like the smallest like luxury goods tax. I 1185 00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 9: think it's like two point five percent or something, but 1186 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 9: no tax. 1187 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, that was fun looking up jobs now. 1188 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 9: I always tell everyone it balances out right because you're 1189 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,279 Speaker 9: spending so much money. It's really expensive there, especially if 1190 00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,479 Speaker 9: you want to drink out there. It's really expensive because 1191 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,759 Speaker 9: everything's being important. Nothing's grown there. Really, it's difficult to like, yeah, 1192 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:04,879 Speaker 9: to make things there. 1193 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:06,799 Speaker 2: Would you ever want to go back and live there? 1194 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:07,239 Speaker 1: No? 1195 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,440 Speaker 9: But I really appreciate it going back now and enjoying 1196 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,360 Speaker 9: it as what it is designed for. And it's designed 1197 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,640 Speaker 9: to be a vacation place, so you will go back 1198 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,240 Speaker 9: one hundred percent. I got engaged there to my Canadian fiance. 1199 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,440 Speaker 2: So you okay, so we're gonna get to Canada. So 1200 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 2: you moved back to the. 1201 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:25,760 Speaker 9: UK, which part this place in England called Gloucester, tiny 1202 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,360 Speaker 9: tiny place, tiny radio market. 1203 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 2: Well okay, so to do radio, Yeah, to do a 1204 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,440 Speaker 2: morning show, So you're doing mornings in Gloucester. 1205 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:32,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1206 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:33,680 Speaker 2: Is it Gloucester, England, UK? 1207 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:34,320 Speaker 9: Yeah? 1208 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 2: And how'd that go? 1209 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,319 Speaker 9: It went really well for a year. I had the 1210 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 9: best on air year I think in terms of like 1211 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,439 Speaker 9: growth and learning how to do a solo morning show 1212 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,840 Speaker 9: just me and a producer. I loved it. It was 1213 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 9: for a really big brand, but one of their local affiliates. 1214 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 9: The funny thing is my dad was on one of 1215 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,200 Speaker 9: those local affiliates too doing a morning show. We were 1216 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 9: doing the same hours, playing the same songs in two 1217 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,960 Speaker 9: different markets at the same time for the same brand. 1218 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:02,480 Speaker 9: The station was, So you. 1219 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 2: Aren't competing aast each other. You've never work up for 1220 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:05,719 Speaker 2: the same company, Yeah, got it? Yeah, And so how 1221 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:06,799 Speaker 2: long were you there until you moved? 1222 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,120 Speaker 9: I was there for a year and then all of 1223 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:13,000 Speaker 9: a sudden, I think there was twenty five local morning shows. 1224 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:18,200 Speaker 9: We attended this group like programming meeting, and everyone kind 1225 00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,400 Speaker 9: of knew that they were going to scrap one of 1226 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,040 Speaker 9: the local shows. We just didn't know which one. We 1227 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 9: thought it was going to be afternoon Drive, but it 1228 00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:28,719 Speaker 9: was mornings. So they canned twenty five morning shows like that. 1229 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,120 Speaker 2: You and your dad, Yeah, yeah, same time. 1230 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:32,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1231 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:36,200 Speaker 9: My mom was like, oh, so then what happened? The 1232 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,000 Speaker 9: next day we got told to go back on the air. 1233 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:40,759 Speaker 9: We started to work out like the rest of the 1234 00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,440 Speaker 9: couple months, knowing that we were just losing our jobs. 1235 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,360 Speaker 9: The next day, I was with my producer in the 1236 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 9: studio and he was like, well, what are you going 1237 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:49,719 Speaker 9: to do? And I was like, I don't know. I'm 1238 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,360 Speaker 9: going to look at like see who I know and 1239 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:52,719 Speaker 9: where they are in the world. I don't want to 1240 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,880 Speaker 9: go back to Dubai. I was like, I've been there, 1241 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,240 Speaker 9: have done that. I always wanted to move to the US, 1242 00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:01,239 Speaker 9: but it's really difficult with visa, especially if you don't 1243 00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,800 Speaker 9: really have any experience over there yet. But with Canada, 1244 00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,480 Speaker 9: the UK and Canada, they're in the Commonwealth, so your 1245 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,360 Speaker 9: passport kind of works and it's easy to get a visa. 1246 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,000 Speaker 9: So basically, I knew that my old program director who's 1247 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 9: hired me in Dubai was in Vancouver. He was working 1248 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,160 Speaker 9: for a station called Kiss. So I booked a flight 1249 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,680 Speaker 9: to Vancouver on my own. I gave myself a month 1250 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,480 Speaker 9: flying back from Toronto, so kind of west coast, east coast, 1251 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,759 Speaker 9: with no plan in the middle, and I just thought 1252 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 9: I'd network the hell out of it and try and 1253 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,279 Speaker 9: meet as many people as I could, you know, just 1254 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 9: try and you know, hey, can I can I meet you? 1255 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,000 Speaker 9: Can we go for a coffee? Can we go for 1256 00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:37,600 Speaker 9: a drink? This is what I do. You know, I've 1257 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 9: got my show real I've been in Dubai. 1258 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 2: Do you save up money from your jobs? Do you 1259 00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:41,880 Speaker 2: have enough saved up to do this? 1260 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,399 Speaker 9: They gave us like severance pay from that morning show, 1261 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,799 Speaker 9: so I used all of it for that, so it 1262 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 9: was like all or nothing. 1263 00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 1: Really. 1264 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,640 Speaker 9: On my last day in Toronto, I met my NOW 1265 00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:56,279 Speaker 9: program director and it really worked out well. It was 1266 00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,040 Speaker 9: right before COVID. They hired me and I was like, perfect, 1267 00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 9: I'll take the job. Went back to the UK, got 1268 00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,040 Speaker 9: my visa. That was in July twenty nineteen, and I 1269 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,480 Speaker 9: moved there in September twenty nineteen, so you've been there. 1270 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,879 Speaker 2: I saw a video of you in Richard Branson, which 1271 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:11,880 Speaker 2: I thought the picture of first was a fake plastic 1272 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,840 Speaker 2: or like a wax. Richard Branson was he was literally 1273 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,759 Speaker 2: at your station. Yeah yeah, yeah, So he's the big, 1274 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,719 Speaker 2: big big he oounds Virgin right because. 1275 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:22,520 Speaker 9: I'm at Virgin Radio. So he came out because his airline, 1276 00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:26,600 Speaker 9: Virgin Atlantic, had reintroduced the service from Toronto to London 1277 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,640 Speaker 9: Heathrow in England, so he was promoting that. So it's 1278 00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,960 Speaker 9: part with that, you know. Whenever he's in town, you know, 1279 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,120 Speaker 9: I'm sure he's been at the Virgin hotel down the street. 1280 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:40,399 Speaker 9: I'm staying there here in Nashville for free. I got 1281 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:40,879 Speaker 9: a good deal. 1282 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,799 Speaker 2: His room has like a pole in the it's pretty nice. Yeah, 1283 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,600 Speaker 2: the room. Yeah, like on the tights on the top 1284 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:49,839 Speaker 2: of the hole. Anyway, go ahead. 1285 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:50,399 Speaker 9: He's pretty nice. 1286 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:50,719 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1287 00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,440 Speaker 9: So yeah, I interviewed him when he came out. I'd 1288 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,240 Speaker 9: already met him before because he came out to Dubai 1289 00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,400 Speaker 9: for the ten year anniversary of that station in Dubai 1290 00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,239 Speaker 9: and we did a broadcast from the top of the 1291 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,359 Speaker 9: tallest skuy scraper in the world. It's called the Bersh 1292 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,359 Speaker 9: Khalifa and that was real fun. So yeah, I met 1293 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:05,919 Speaker 9: some amazing people along the way. 1294 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:07,120 Speaker 2: And how long have you been at the station? 1295 00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:07,439 Speaker 1: Now? 1296 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,640 Speaker 9: Five years? Just over five years? And what's you're all, 1297 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,399 Speaker 9: I'm the national night show host so. 1298 00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:16,600 Speaker 2: And what uh top forty yeah, top forty yeah, so 1299 00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,839 Speaker 2: twelve twelve stations. I would imagine anybody in Canada then 1300 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,120 Speaker 2: that's going to do interviews comes by where you are 1301 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,799 Speaker 2: if you're there, Yeah, especially in Toronto. Yeah, Like you 1302 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:26,919 Speaker 2: get to see a lot of cool people. Yeah. 1303 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,000 Speaker 9: The cool thing about Toronto as well is if you're 1304 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,920 Speaker 9: into movies, Mike, uh, the Toronto International Film Festival TIFF 1305 00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,279 Speaker 9: is one of the biggest film festivals in the world, 1306 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,640 Speaker 9: so we get loads of stars coming in September for that. 1307 00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,400 Speaker 9: But then Outside of that, we've also got a huge 1308 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,600 Speaker 9: number of huge venues that you know ours per format. 1309 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,880 Speaker 2: And a couple of questions about living in Canada. It's cold. 1310 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,520 Speaker 9: It is cold, and I made the mistake of visiting 1311 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:51,640 Speaker 9: first in July. 1312 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,520 Speaker 2: When it wasn't as Oh yeah, yeah, what a mistake. 1313 00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,680 Speaker 2: What outdoor sports do they do up there? 1314 00:53:58,080 --> 00:53:59,440 Speaker 9: They ski? They snowboard. 1315 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,320 Speaker 2: What about there's really no golf? Right, Yeah, there's golf, 1316 00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:03,840 Speaker 2: but I mean for like a window, I mean the 1317 00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:05,239 Speaker 2: windows like open and close. Right. 1318 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,120 Speaker 9: The courses are just about to open at the end 1319 00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:07,520 Speaker 9: of the month. 1320 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:08,560 Speaker 2: What about pickleball? 1321 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,640 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's big, it's big, and uh, paddle pedal Yeah, 1322 00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 9: pedel paddle. 1323 00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,279 Speaker 2: I don't know, but it's basically similar. It's awesome because 1324 00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,640 Speaker 2: you bounce it off walls and stuff. Yeah, we don't 1325 00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,360 Speaker 2: have that here, but it's like racketball meets kind of 1326 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:21,279 Speaker 2: a paddle ball type thing. 1327 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:21,600 Speaker 9: Yeah. 1328 00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:23,279 Speaker 2: Uh do you play? Do you play those? 1329 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:23,880 Speaker 4: No? 1330 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:24,960 Speaker 9: I don't. I play golf. 1331 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:26,080 Speaker 1: I play golf, you do? Yeah? 1332 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,000 Speaker 2: How can you play golf if it's only like for 1333 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:28,839 Speaker 2: three months a year? 1334 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,799 Speaker 9: It's quick. Yeah, you got to get out there as 1335 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:31,560 Speaker 9: much as you can. 1336 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:36,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, So Miles and I met at iHeart Festival in Vegas, 1337 00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,520 Speaker 2: and we were just walking to the hall and I 1338 00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:39,719 Speaker 2: stopped and talk about them, and I was like, hey, man, 1339 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,400 Speaker 2: if you want to come and just like see what 1340 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,560 Speaker 2: we're doing, I don't know that'll help, but come come by. 1341 00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:45,800 Speaker 2: And so he came down and flew out for a 1342 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:46,239 Speaker 2: couple of days. 1343 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,879 Speaker 9: I feel like Charlie in the Chilcolip Factory. I've been 1344 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,879 Speaker 9: I've been listening to this show since when you guys 1345 00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 9: were on Top forty when I was in Dubai. Actually, 1346 00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,040 Speaker 9: the reason I found you, I think I was just 1347 00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,319 Speaker 9: looking for like radio shows to listen to them way 1348 00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 9: in because with the time difference, you know, we use 1349 00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,680 Speaker 9: like prep sites and prep sheets. For those of you 1350 00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 9: who aren't in the industry, there's loads of prep that 1351 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:09,719 Speaker 9: you can get from morning shows. Most of them are 1352 00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,239 Speaker 9: tailored for morning shows. But by the time I was 1353 00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,280 Speaker 9: on the air doing a night show, it was already 1354 00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:14,680 Speaker 9: like done. 1355 00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:15,439 Speaker 2: It was like news. 1356 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,640 Speaker 9: It was old news. So I would always listen to 1357 00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:22,360 Speaker 9: like West Coast or not West Coast, but like Western 1358 00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 9: time Zone or North American radio shows. I found you, guys, 1359 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,759 Speaker 9: and like I stole, tell me something good and loads 1360 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:33,880 Speaker 9: of stuff like that. So yeah, I always I always 1361 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,880 Speaker 9: remember listening to you guys, and yeah, just never never stopped. 1362 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,759 Speaker 9: Really And when I remember your last show on Top 1363 00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,040 Speaker 9: forty radio moving to country, and I was like, wow, 1364 00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,600 Speaker 9: I was like, do they know country music? I feel 1365 00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,520 Speaker 9: like all I've heard them is talk about Kesha and 1366 00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:51,319 Speaker 9: Justin Timberlake Justin Bieber Yeah, but you guys have You've 1367 00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,000 Speaker 9: absolutely killed it. So congrats. 1368 00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:54,840 Speaker 2: That last show's funny. I have a picture in my 1369 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,080 Speaker 2: house in the last show that's in an office. I 1370 00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,320 Speaker 2: haven't thought. I hadn't thought about that last show until 1371 00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:01,799 Speaker 2: you brought it up last time we were talking, because 1372 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:02,719 Speaker 2: you had said you'd heard that show. 1373 00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,120 Speaker 9: I remember when you all left the studio one. 1374 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:05,960 Speaker 2: By one, one by one. 1375 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:06,759 Speaker 7: Yeah, I was. 1376 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:08,960 Speaker 9: I was in a coffee shop and dude by crying 1377 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,279 Speaker 9: listening to that. Yeah, I still remember it. 1378 00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:16,719 Speaker 2: That's awesome. So this is how crazy his workplace is. 1379 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,040 Speaker 2: They did one day allowed him to come down here 1380 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:21,920 Speaker 2: and he's working from studios here. Did they pay for 1381 00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:22,640 Speaker 2: you to come down here? 1382 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,040 Speaker 9: I know, I just paid my flights. I got a 1383 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:26,520 Speaker 9: really good deal in the on the hotel. 1384 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,399 Speaker 6: Do you fly down here, Virgin. 1385 00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,120 Speaker 9: No, no, no, no, no air Canady have that here? 1386 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:31,239 Speaker 5: Did? 1387 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:31,799 Speaker 1: Well? 1388 00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,720 Speaker 2: I don't. 1389 00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,080 Speaker 9: I think there's Virgin America. I took in New York. 1390 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,440 Speaker 2: To l a flight with no I mean fore no, 1391 00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,720 Speaker 2: maybe not to Nashville. I've flown Virgin America before. It's awesome. 1392 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,479 Speaker 2: It's like lights. Yeah, when you walk there's like red lights, 1393 00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:44,919 Speaker 2: green lights. 1394 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,920 Speaker 9: I believe they were one of the first airlines. I 1395 00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,279 Speaker 9: think Virgin Atlantic to have a stand up bar like 1396 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:51,000 Speaker 9: in the eighties. 1397 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:51,800 Speaker 7: That's smart. 1398 00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:52,960 Speaker 9: That's on the plane. 1399 00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:53,600 Speaker 2: I didn't see that. 1400 00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:54,480 Speaker 7: We need to bring that back. 1401 00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:54,839 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1402 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:56,480 Speaker 7: Hey, how far is Toronto from here? 1403 00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:57,399 Speaker 6: Long? 1404 00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:58,600 Speaker 1: Two hours? Yeah? 1405 00:56:58,680 --> 00:56:59,600 Speaker 7: New York stop it. 1406 00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:03,880 Speaker 9: Yeah, you should come in hours. Yeah, come up to Toronto. 1407 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:04,839 Speaker 9: Just don't come in winter. 1408 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:06,160 Speaker 7: It's too I would never do that. 1409 00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,360 Speaker 2: Mike went and it was not quite winter, but it 1410 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:09,799 Speaker 2: was getting there. Yeah, it was getting a look old. 1411 00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,400 Speaker 2: It's cold, but it wasn't like super cold, and I 1412 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,600 Speaker 2: was like, if this is like mid cold, this sucks. 1413 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,600 Speaker 2: Everybody was super nice. Everybody's awesome. 1414 00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:21,440 Speaker 9: Well, your show is obviously on the iHeartRadio Canada country 1415 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,520 Speaker 9: affiliate is called Pure Country. Yeah, so obviously your show 1416 00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,080 Speaker 9: goes on the same time as mine. 1417 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,080 Speaker 1: So we're head to head competitors. 1418 00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:29,960 Speaker 5: And you know what's weird is this dude he met 1419 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:31,640 Speaker 5: one chick in Canada and he's marrying her. 1420 00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,320 Speaker 9: Yeah, that's right. I got to Toronto that week in 1421 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:40,720 Speaker 9: September and within a week I met mine now beautiful fiance, Heather. 1422 00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,040 Speaker 2: So you met more than one chick, you just met 1423 00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:44,080 Speaker 2: her and then it was over. 1424 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:44,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1425 00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,000 Speaker 9: I was like, could you get me a permanent residency 1426 00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:48,280 Speaker 9: and she was like yeah, done. 1427 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:49,480 Speaker 2: When did you get engaged? 1428 00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,320 Speaker 9: We got engaged in May twenty twenty three. 1429 00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,200 Speaker 2: And you're not married now, No, when are you getting married? 1430 00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,800 Speaker 9: Okay, yeah we are. No one knows that. 1431 00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:00,480 Speaker 2: We had to Yeah, we had to get to reveal 1432 00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:00,840 Speaker 2: it here. 1433 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:02,560 Speaker 9: No, it's fine, breaking news, that's okay. 1434 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:07,320 Speaker 6: So you're married, Oh, just your status legally. 1435 00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:08,720 Speaker 9: No, it's not. It's nothing to do with that. We're 1436 00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:09,320 Speaker 9: getting married. 1437 00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:11,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1438 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:14,400 Speaker 9: Have you ever seen ninety day fiance? 1439 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:15,040 Speaker 2: That's me. 1440 00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:15,280 Speaker 6: No. 1441 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:20,000 Speaker 9: Basically, we're getting married in Scotland, where I'm from and 1442 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,360 Speaker 9: most of my family live. It's in a castle. Amazing, 1443 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,120 Speaker 9: ven you can't wait. That's in July. But to actually 1444 00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,240 Speaker 9: get married officially, you have to provide like a certificate 1445 00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:30,680 Speaker 9: by the time you get over there. So we went 1446 00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:34,760 Speaker 9: to a park recently in Toronto with this wedding offician 1447 00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,400 Speaker 9: and it was the most like it was like homeless 1448 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,360 Speaker 9: people in the park were getting married. It was like 1449 00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,240 Speaker 9: a ten minute ceremony. So we got the legalities, the 1450 00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,240 Speaker 9: formalities of it over and done with. So we are 1451 00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:45,000 Speaker 9: officially married. 1452 00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:46,120 Speaker 2: Congratulations, Thank you. 1453 00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,120 Speaker 5: So will you celebrate your anniversary like in July or 1454 00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,479 Speaker 5: were you celebrated in the homeless people in the park 1455 00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:52,000 Speaker 5: in July. 1456 00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,120 Speaker 9: Maybe we'll do something in the park as well. 1457 00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,160 Speaker 2: I do so Miles is here is going to be 1458 00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,120 Speaker 2: the next couple of days. But I do have to 1459 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,040 Speaker 2: get to this spill the tea because I know we 1460 00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:03,919 Speaker 2: put it in the teaser and we had a little 1461 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,560 Speaker 2: issue with our video at first. So do Ray, do 1462 00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,919 Speaker 2: we have this ready? So someone here on the show, 1463 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:11,800 Speaker 2: this has not on Miles. By the way, this is 1464 00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:18,320 Speaker 2: not about Miles, Okay. I put this in the description 1465 00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,000 Speaker 2: of the video, so I need to make sure we 1466 00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,600 Speaker 2: do it so people that are here, like, I never 1467 00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,920 Speaker 2: heard that spill the tea. So someone on the show 1468 00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,200 Speaker 2: anonymously wanted to spill the tea on somebody else. So first, Ray, 1469 00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,000 Speaker 2: would you play spill the tea. 1470 00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,360 Speaker 7: Let's spill the tea. 1471 00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:37,000 Speaker 2: And so this is anonymous. They're they're using the voice changer. 1472 00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,600 Speaker 2: It's thirty one seconds hit it ray. 1473 00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:43,760 Speaker 4: This message is about Eddie. Does he not understand when 1474 00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,160 Speaker 4: you water a plant that you need to have something 1475 00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,760 Speaker 4: underneath it to catch the water. Eddie brought us plants 1476 00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,200 Speaker 4: and thought, oh, what a great gift. But one sits 1477 00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:55,840 Speaker 4: outside the studio and Eddie continues to water it and he. 1478 00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,360 Speaker 2: Pours a bunch of water in it, and the water just. 1479 00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,640 Speaker 4: Comes out the bottom of the plant and weeks. 1480 01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:01,840 Speaker 2: All over the table and floor. 1481 01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:05,360 Speaker 4: But Eddie doesn't care about keeping on workspace clean or 1482 01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:09,360 Speaker 4: common areas clean as plant. Who cares if it weeks 1483 01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,480 Speaker 4: all over the floor? Eddie too better? 1484 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:16,760 Speaker 2: Okay, that's anonymous. I wonder who that was. 1485 01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:14,760 Speaker 1: That was. 1486 01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:17,440 Speaker 4: Eddie? 1487 01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:18,400 Speaker 2: Your answer to that? 1488 01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:20,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I really couldn't understand much of it because it 1489 01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:21,400 Speaker 1: was anonymous. 1490 01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,680 Speaker 2: But I guess like you're being sloppy. There's water everywhere 1491 01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:26,959 Speaker 2: from you with this plant, but that's not my plant. 1492 01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:28,960 Speaker 2: I don't even know what they're talking about, you watering it? 1493 01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,720 Speaker 1: No? Oh, then I don't even know who, Like I. 1494 01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:33,160 Speaker 2: Gave you, I didn't. 1495 01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,600 Speaker 8: Right, So I gave yours to someone else. It's not 1496 01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,560 Speaker 8: even here. And then I gave Amy one and lunchbox. 1497 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,320 Speaker 8: Lunchbox said he took his home, So I guess that's Amy's. 1498 01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,320 Speaker 6: I'm not watering it, so I don't know, man, who's 1499 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:46,840 Speaker 6: watering it? 1500 01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:48,760 Speaker 2: Scoba, Do we know anything about this? 1501 01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:50,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. There's one over here on the table 1502 01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:51,000 Speaker 1: of it. 1503 01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,000 Speaker 7: It's got some water underneath this. I'm not sure. Well, 1504 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:56,040 Speaker 7: maybe the clean lady waters it. Maybe let's let's just 1505 01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:56,400 Speaker 7: say this. 1506 01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,960 Speaker 5: I mean, whoever it was anonymous may have been sitting 1507 01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,160 Speaker 5: there and watched Eddie un screw a bottled water and 1508 01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,200 Speaker 5: pour water into it right around that table. 1509 01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:04,200 Speaker 2: Is watering it, so I did. 1510 01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,600 Speaker 6: I don't remember that, lunchboxes. 1511 01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:09,800 Speaker 8: So yeah, he just threw himself under the bus. He's 1512 01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:11,480 Speaker 8: the he's the anonymous, but I. 1513 01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,240 Speaker 2: Think he took that. He said, I'll die on my 1514 01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:13,680 Speaker 2: sword to. 1515 01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,000 Speaker 7: See because she denied watering is. 1516 01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:17,640 Speaker 5: I was like, all right, if you're gonna lie about 1517 01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,760 Speaker 5: watering it, I'll go ahead and reveal myself on this one. 1518 01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:21,080 Speaker 2: So why are you water Why don't you just take 1519 01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:21,400 Speaker 2: it home? 1520 01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:23,960 Speaker 1: I guess I will, Yeah, I guess if Amy. 1521 01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,080 Speaker 6: Doesn't want it, well, how do you know that's fine? 1522 01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:29,520 Speaker 8: Because lunchbox took his home bobbies bobbies, I give it 1523 01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:30,400 Speaker 8: to someone else in the building. 1524 01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:32,200 Speaker 6: Oh, that's mine. 1525 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:35,520 Speaker 7: Then she's like she was like, how am I getting 1526 01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:36,000 Speaker 7: busted here? 1527 01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,040 Speaker 2: Hold on, yeah, I want up. Let's get all the 1528 01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,400 Speaker 2: plants out can we We're getting the habit of leaven 1529 01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:44,200 Speaker 2: like stuff out there. Let's not get in the habit. 1530 01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:46,640 Speaker 2: I don't care who Scuba puts in charge of every 1531 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:50,640 Speaker 2: day making sure that our little lobby is. I'm not 1532 01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:53,440 Speaker 2: saying spick and span, but we got some stuff from 1533 01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,440 Speaker 2: Walmart last week on Friday. They sent in a bunch. 1534 01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,280 Speaker 2: They have a new food line. People send stuff all 1535 01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,520 Speaker 2: the time. The stuff is still sitting there like half eaten. 1536 01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,439 Speaker 2: We're acting on it, like move it in the snack 1537 01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:04,640 Speaker 2: room because it's been there for like four days. 1538 01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:06,880 Speaker 6: I don't want to do anything. You're taking the snack room. 1539 01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:10,320 Speaker 2: Then the saleslady isn't get home. It doesn't sit in 1540 01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,520 Speaker 2: the lobby for four days because it doesn't look good. 1541 01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:13,920 Speaker 2: We look like slobs. 1542 01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,440 Speaker 5: Question what what if we just get like a bottom 1543 01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,000 Speaker 5: for the plant and then it's like a welcome like 1544 01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:20,840 Speaker 5: it's a it's a it's not a bad plant, it's 1545 01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:21,840 Speaker 5: just it needs a bottom. 1546 01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:25,360 Speaker 2: We can't even keep snacks not looking like they're tossed in. 1547 01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:27,440 Speaker 2: There's garbage every all the time. So we'll work on 1548 01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:32,680 Speaker 2: plants and maybe bases. Picture all that later. 1549 01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:34,800 Speaker 6: I was going to see if we could get a 1550 01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,200 Speaker 6: I forget the exact kind. I'll look it up. But 1551 01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:39,840 Speaker 6: there's a particular plant that's really good for the air 1552 01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:41,240 Speaker 6: in here, and. 1553 01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:42,320 Speaker 2: I want to plants in here. 1554 01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:46,880 Speaker 6: What no, Bobby, Okay, but. 1555 01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:50,360 Speaker 2: It'll get knocked over. This carpet is terrible. We can't 1556 01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:51,280 Speaker 2: have anything nice. 1557 01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:52,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna walk it. 1558 01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:53,880 Speaker 4: We can't anything. 1559 01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:55,360 Speaker 2: We'll be gone for a week vacation. 1560 01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:56,680 Speaker 6: Don't you want cleaner? 1561 01:02:56,720 --> 01:03:00,080 Speaker 2: Why don't we get like a pet porcupine and a 1562 01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:01,160 Speaker 2: a terrarium in here as well? 1563 01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,080 Speaker 5: I was going to say a gumball machine is good 1564 01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:04,760 Speaker 5: from morale in the studio. 1565 01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:06,840 Speaker 2: We have learned the one thing we've long. We can't 1566 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,800 Speaker 2: have anything nice for living because it dies or it breaks. 1567 01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:11,680 Speaker 2: Am I wrong? 1568 01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:12,960 Speaker 4: No? 1569 01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,160 Speaker 1: No, Like a fish would be cool and. 1570 01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,120 Speaker 2: It would die. Yeah, that would be cool. 1571 01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:22,400 Speaker 5: So the tank breaks in the air, water everywhere around 1572 01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:23,160 Speaker 5: all this equipment. 1573 01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:24,800 Speaker 6: Spider plant, that's what it is. 1574 01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:26,880 Speaker 7: A ship of sale. 1575 01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,520 Speaker 6: No chloros I. 1576 01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,080 Speaker 8: Gave you a money plant. You didn't even want that. 1577 01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:32,080 Speaker 8: What do you want? 1578 01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:35,080 Speaker 6: Because the air lunchbox brings into diseases. And if we 1579 01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:36,240 Speaker 6: have a spider okay. 1580 01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,640 Speaker 2: Says miss covids, have covid in here for a week. 1581 01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:45,320 Speaker 6: Okay, use infection now we're on it. That's don't even 1582 01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:46,840 Speaker 6: get me started on the tuberculoses. 1583 01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:48,560 Speaker 2: You gave me exactly. 1584 01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:51,400 Speaker 1: Okayyphilis. 1585 01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:57,000 Speaker 2: We're out of here, Thank you, everybody. Uh, Miles going 1586 01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:58,439 Speaker 2: to see you. Miles, gonna be here for a couple 1587 01:03:58,440 --> 01:03:58,720 Speaker 2: of days. 1588 01:03:58,720 --> 01:03:59,160 Speaker 9: Thank you. 1589 01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,160 Speaker 2: I think that's all for now. We're gonna go all right, 1590 01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:02,960 Speaker 2: shut her down, boys,